The Charlie Kirk Show - Thoughtcrime Flashback: The Fourth of July 2025

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00:01:18.000 It is Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:20.000 We have Blake, we have Jack.

00:01:22.000 Who else do we have?

00:01:23.000 We have Andrew.

00:01:24.000 It is quite a circuit here.

00:01:28.000 Jack, throwing to you, can you please eat rice with your hands?

00:01:31.000 Yeah, no, I've got some rice here down by my feet, which of course are also uncovered.

00:01:38.000 And I'm going to be using those to raise them up to just eat with my hands. 0.99

00:01:43.000 And I want to make sure, by the way, I want to go further than Zorhan Mamdani. 0.95

00:01:50.000 I want to go and actually eat the rice with my hands on the subway itself so that all the people around me get to feel and smell the festive aroma of my rice and my slop and my goo and my sauce and slime out there.

00:02:11.000 I mean, look.

00:02:12.000 People okay, so people know that I have for a long time, and I know that I've said this a number of times on this show that I have a really weird, really you know, angry responses when people don't, you know, people make like eating sounds.

00:02:29.000 Oh, Jack, that's why I threw to you.

00:02:31.000 Jack gets really upset.

00:02:33.000 Yeah, yeah, I have like misophonia.

00:02:35.000 Like, I had to like go off, I had to walk off the show a couple weeks ago, and and yeah, something like no, what's interesting though is like something like this wouldn't necessarily trigger it.

00:02:46.000 It's more like the sounds or, you know, if he was like stuffing his mouth too full or something like that.

00:02:52.000 To me, this is just gross.

00:02:53.000 This is just like normal, gross behavior.

00:02:56.000 But I've always been critical of people, of politicians.

00:03:00.000 There was a dude, Palave or whatever, up in Canada who was chewing an apple like really loudly while he was mic'd up in that one interview a while ago.

00:03:08.000 I couldn't stand that.

00:03:10.000 When there was another guy with the, you know, John Kasich just shoveling pizza into his mouth or Pete Buttigieg, the way he was like, He was eating, I guess he was eating like drumsticks or something, this one video.

00:03:22.000 And he was at the Iowa State Fair and he was like shoving the entire drumstick in his mouth and opening his mouth as wide as possible to eat it.

00:03:29.000 And I can remember this stuff because it literally bothers me that much.

00:03:34.000 And so, yeah, when you look at something like this, it's just disgusting.

00:03:38.000 Don't eat on camera.

00:03:39.000 Just don't do it.

00:03:40.000 If you're in politics, just word to the wise, don't ever do something like this.

00:03:44.000 And trying to run in the United States of America, I mean, my gosh, we use utensils here.

00:03:52.000 And by the way, this guy grew up, and I don't know all of his background, but he grew up rich, right?

00:03:58.000 His mom's like this famous film director.

00:04:00.000 So he grew up rich.

00:04:01.000 He went to all sorts of, you know, like a $60,000 a year school.

00:04:08.000 So, I mean, this is, dad's an Ivy League professor.

00:04:11.000 So, yeah, this idea that, like, oh, yeah, no, it's a joke.

00:04:14.000 He's obviously just doing this to say, like, oh, I'm one of you.

00:04:20.000 And in fact, earlier on the show today on Human Events, we were talking about how this is just another example of a Leninist who, just like in.

00:04:31.000 The original version of Leninism, what did Leninism target?

00:04:35.000 It used people to sort of LARPing as the working class to claim that they were part of the proletariat.

00:04:43.000 And what were they?

00:04:44.000 They were overeducated sons and daughters, mainly sons, obviously, of upper class rich people who didn't have really anything better to do with their lives.

00:04:54.000 So they said, oh, we're going to be this vanguard of the proletariat and we're going to take over all of Russia's urban centers.

00:05:01.000 This is literally, if you look at his electorate, what he's been doing. 0.56

00:05:04.000 So, it's sort of a tie between the new arrivals, first generation immigrants, and the sort of urban elite youth who are just sort of lackadaisical and don't have anything better to do with their lives. 0.93

00:05:20.000 That's now his electoral core, and it's the exact same electoral coalition that Vladimir Lenin used when communism was tried the first time around. 0.90

00:05:32.000 So, what is the most offensible part, Andrew, of his? 0.99

00:05:35.000 His thing is the fact that he's a Muslim, the fact that he's a socialist, the fact that he eats with his rights with his hands, the fact that he's a phony, he's a foreigner, he wants to turn New York into the third world. 0.96

00:05:45.000 Andrew, I mean, I actually want to hear Blake's take on this, but you did call on me. 0.96

00:05:51.000 I think it's that he's a total con man, he changes his accents, he larps as a working man, like one of the people, and I think he just heaps disdain on our culture.

00:06:05.000 I think all of those things are equally offensive, not to mention.

00:06:08.000 What Jack said really resonated with me that he can't find anything better to do with his life because he's a rich kid's son and a rich mom and dad.

00:06:17.000 So he's the son of a wealthy family.

00:06:19.000 Can't find anything better to do with his time.

00:06:21.000 So he acts like he's a man of the people and he's really concerned about affordability.

00:06:25.000 And really, he's just a race Marxist.

00:06:28.000 And the fact that this is working on such a large swath of even the New York electorate, I find highly offensive.

00:06:36.000 And, you know, I just think the.

00:06:40.000 I will tell you, talking to people, some of my friends and family that are not as political or plugged in, they don't understand why the eating with the hands thing is so offensive.

00:06:51.000 But it is by far one of the most offensive things, I think, to our team and people that are really plugged in.

00:06:59.000 What's that?

00:07:01.000 Who said that it's not, that they don't understand it? 1.00

00:07:03.000 Just some of my friends and family that are not as, they're like, ah, okay, so he eats like a foreigner. 0.97

00:07:09.000 I'm like, exactly. 0.99

00:07:10.000 He eats like a foreigner. 1.00

00:07:11.000 It's a little funny just because. 1.00

00:07:13.000 Like, we also eat with our bare hands all the time.

00:07:16.000 Not food that is designated for it, though.

00:07:20.000 Rice is like the most disgusting thing to be like slurping it into your mouth.

00:07:23.000 Yeah, it's like, you're in New York, it's gross.

00:07:24.000 It's just rice, but it's rice with like curry and not gross.

00:07:28.000 You're in New York City, though.

00:07:29.000 There's no lack of utensils.

00:07:30.000 That's the whole point.

00:07:31.000 Yeah, no, like, to me, what's most appalling about it, it's not so much that it's gross in and of itself, it's that it is fake.

00:07:37.000 And more than just it being fake, like, Mamdani is not, he's not fake in like a basic con man way.

00:07:46.000 That would almost be a little endearing. 0.93

00:07:48.000 He's fake in like a creepy psychopath way.

00:07:52.000 And a thing about like psychopaths, like real, legit, manipulative, lacking in emotion, lacking in empathy psychopaths who are extremely common in radical left wing politics, they're often rated by observers as really authentic.

00:08:07.000 So you'll hear all these takes like, oh, Mamdani, he's so authentic because he represents this, like, he's bringing this like pro worker platform.

00:08:14.000 And like, I look at Mamdani and all I think is like, this guy is an obvious scheming psychopath who he, like, you could slightly change the inputs and this guy would decide.

00:08:25.000 A completely different political platform is how he could get to power.

00:08:29.000 But he happens to have grown up in this world where radical far left politics is the way to do it.

00:08:35.000 And he will adjust accordingly.

00:08:37.000 So I'm almost not even as worried as some people that if he won, he would necessarily do all of his agenda.

00:08:44.000 Because so much of his agenda, I suspect, is the means of ascent.

00:08:48.000 And like once he's in power, he would be focused on like entrenching his power and like taking out perceived enemies.

00:08:55.000 Like the problem is.

00:08:56.000 Would not so much be that we have a communist.

00:08:58.000 Do you mean like that we have a little communist movement?

00:09:00.000 Yeah.

00:09:01.000 The problem would be having a psychopath in power, not having a communist in power.

00:09:05.000 Like that's how he comes off to me.

00:09:07.000 Everything's so stage managed.

00:09:08.000 The fake accents, the fake third worldism.

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00:11:10.000 This has always been, this is it.

00:11:12.000 What you're talking about is my contention, though, is that that is actually how communism works in reality, in practice, right?

00:11:20.000 It's that the smoke, and I saw that like Fox News had this capitalism versus socialism, and here are the things that he's claiming for.

00:11:27.000 They always claim those things.

00:11:28.000 Oh, we're going to free stuff for everyone.

00:11:30.000 It's going to be great.

00:11:31.000 But that's not actually what they want.

00:11:32.000 What they want is all of the things, Blake, that you are saying.

00:11:36.000 So the thesis, and this was the whole book that I wrote last year about this, was that the communists don't actually believe in communism.

00:11:44.000 They just want to jump ahead to the subjugating their enemies and rewarding their friends part.

00:11:49.000 Yeah.

00:11:51.000 And that's why you'd end up with these crappy state-run grocery stores.

00:11:57.000 It would be a way to entrench the authority and the patronage that routes through him.

00:12:03.000 He would be able to control who got the contract.

00:12:04.000 He would be hurting rival nodes of power.

00:12:07.000 Same thing with the rent freeze.

00:12:08.000 That's like a way to, again, enhance his power, reduce everyone else's power.

00:12:12.000 And it doesn't require the city to actually be nice in any way.

00:12:15.000 One of the most toxic things about urban politics in particular, actually, is there's often a lot of reason to make the city worse.

00:12:23.000 Why?

00:12:24.000 Because you drive out the people who oppose you.

00:12:28.000 And there is going to be a diehard base that elects you no matter.

00:12:30.000 It's super dark. 0.76

00:12:31.000 But, like, that's for example, I think the original person this was coined for was a longtime mayor of Boston who kind of drove all, he was like, His base was Irish.

00:12:42.000 This is when, you know, there was like a lot of Irish.

00:12:45.000 That was kind of like the core working class base in Boston.

00:12:47.000 And he would always win with Irish voters.

00:12:50.000 And he kind of just turned out a lot of the upper middle class that opposed him.

00:12:54.000 But the Irish base would elect him.

00:12:55.000 And he just got to the point where he could never lose.

00:12:58.000 A more recent example Detroit.

00:13:00.000 So Detroit was like 50 50 in the late 60s.

00:13:04.000 And they elected Coleman Young.

00:13:07.000 And Coleman Young was a horrible mayor of Detroit.

00:13:10.000 But he was so horrible that he drove all the anti Coleman Young people out of Detroit.

00:13:14.000 Yeah.

00:13:14.000 And he just became.

00:13:14.000 Auburn Hills.

00:13:16.000 This, like, emperor of Detroit. 0.81

00:13:18.000 And, you know, even if your city's a dump, being the mayor of the city that's a dump is.

00:13:23.000 Well, we have to remember, though, I mean, and Blake might have a different opinion here.

00:13:27.000 He said something in the chat, so I want you to defend it.

00:13:29.000 But New York was really bad in the 70s and 80s.

00:13:33.000 And you're like, well, even if it gets bad, it's not as bad as other cities. 0.98

00:13:36.000 But New York does have a history of being a complete rat hole. 0.98

00:13:42.000 Yes. 0.99

00:13:42.000 Like, when Donald Trump first came onto the scene in the 1970s, It was legitimate, like prostitutes on almost every corner. 0.99

00:13:51.000 It was a litter filled city. 0.93

00:13:53.000 The famous one is.

00:13:54.000 It was really bad.

00:13:55.000 The infamous one is if you watch Taxi Driver, if you watch Taxi Driver, like they're going to these nudie theaters that are showing dirty movies.

00:14:01.000 Those were in Times Square.

00:14:03.000 You just had striptease movies in Times Square.

00:14:06.000 You could get mugged just walking out of one of those places. 0.99

00:14:08.000 So let's just first take two, let's just do two lessons here.

00:14:11.000 Number one, it's a lesson that things in America can get better, that they actually, just because you're in a cycle of decline, doesn't mean it has to.

00:14:18.000 But number two, it goes that New York can also go back to that.

00:14:20.000 But you're a little bit less convinced.

00:14:23.000 But I look at London, I'm like, nope, a good city can be destroyed.

00:14:27.000 So London has definitely gone downhill, but it's never gone downhill nearly as bad as New York did.

00:14:31.000 Like New York was.

00:14:32.000 No, no, I agree.

00:14:33.000 They were doing, you know, burning down buildings.

00:14:35.000 They had not gone back to where New York was.

00:14:37.000 No, just to give the scale of it, I think in its absolute worst year, which I think was 1991, one of the sort of late 80s, early 90s span, New York, I think, broke 2,000 murders in a year.

00:14:50.000 2,000 years.

00:14:52.000 Incomprehensible.

00:14:53.000 I mean, Chicago at its worst, which is a smaller city, of course, but Chicago at its worst, I think, hit 500, 600.

00:14:59.000 Yeah, maybe like 800 during one of the peak Floyd years.

00:15:03.000 And then, so imagine more than double that.

00:15:05.000 But do you think that it's realistic that New York could get like how Boston was or Detroit, where they just run people out and it starts to become a gutter?

00:15:13.000 It's harder. 0.95

00:15:15.000 You don't, like, New York is more diverse.

00:15:17.000 There's more, like, levers you have to work with.

00:15:19.000 There's boroughs.

00:15:20.000 There's the boroughs.

00:15:22.000 There's, like, a lot of.

00:15:24.000 Entrenched groups that are really centered on New York, I think it would be hard.

00:15:28.000 Like, just as an example, you have, you know, several hundred thousand like Orthodox Jews.

00:15:34.000 I don't think they're going to get like turfed out terribly easily. 0.91

00:15:37.000 A lot of their culture is like based there.

00:15:39.000 So that's like a political bedrock.

00:15:43.000 There's always people predicting that like the financial institutions will leave New York.

00:15:46.000 And it's like they're just like unkillable.

00:15:48.000 It feels like some are going to Miami.

00:15:50.000 Some are.

00:15:51.000 Or even just Jersey.

00:15:52.000 But like the New York Stock Exchange is in New York.

00:15:55.000 And there's clearly a lot of like cultural power to that.

00:15:59.000 You can definitely make New York worse.

00:16:00.000 He can definitely drive a lot of people out of New York.

00:16:02.000 He can definitely make it worse on the margins.

00:16:04.000 You would have to make it.

00:16:06.000 Really, really, really bad to get back into that death spiral of the 70s and 80s, where it was just unlivably terrible in huge parts of the city.

00:16:19.000 Another part of it is New York's gotten very diverse, but it's gotten diverse with groups that aren't necessarily going to destroy the city. 1.00

00:16:25.000 You have a lot of Asian immigrants. 0.63

00:16:27.000 Here's a good trivia question. 0.93

00:16:28.000 Of all New York City voters, what borough has the most voters?

00:16:33.000 The most voters?

00:16:35.000 Let me think. 0.99

00:16:36.000 Queens?

00:16:37.000 I think Brooklyn has the most people.

00:16:39.000 Queens would be my guess off the top of my head.

00:16:41.000 My guess would be probably Brooklyn because most people and Queens, I think, is more immigrant than I would have said.

00:16:47.000 I would have said Manhattan, but so Brooklyn has 30%.

00:16:51.000 It's the most populous borough by far, followed by Queens.

00:16:56.000 Very immigrant, very diverse.

00:16:58.000 Manhattan is 19%.

00:17:00.000 The Bronx is 15%.

00:17:03.000 And then Staten Island is 6%. 0.65

00:17:04.000 Which Staten Island's like the MAGA community. 1.00

00:17:06.000 I'm actually, I would have not been surprised if Queens was somehow even behind Manhattan just because there's so many immigrants. 1.00

00:17:11.000 I wouldn't be surprised. 1.00

00:17:11.000 If the non citizen percentage was higher. 1.00

00:17:14.000 But yeah, no, it's like it's the outer boroughs that decide these. 0.91

00:17:18.000 I think Manhattan looms so large in the cultural consciousness that it dominates, and people just sort of assume that's New York.

00:17:24.000 But most of New York is just this vast sprawl of the Long Island boroughs in the Bronx, and that will decide the way things go.

00:17:35.000 So, Andrew, how does this then impact politics nationally?

00:17:40.000 We had Mark Halpern on the podcast, and he said that Democrats are worried that he's going to become the poster child.

00:17:47.000 Of all Democrat politics across the country?

00:17:49.000 Yeah, I think that, you know, I think that we don't know, first of all, but I would say that I sort of agree with some of the things Blake has said that is, this is now out in the open.

00:18:03.000 He is the test case of whether or not a far left socialist or communist can just be out with his public opinion, seizing the means of production, which is straight out of the Marx playbook.

00:18:16.000 You are. 0.91

00:18:18.000 Going full anti whitey, right? 1.00

00:18:20.000 You're going, we're going to tax whiter neighborhoods, globalize the Intifada, all of these things he's just now out and proud with. 0.89

00:18:28.000 But you also made this point with Mark that this has been going on really since Occupy, Wall Street movement.

00:18:35.000 But then Bernie Sanders won the 2016 Democrat primary.

00:18:42.000 You have to understand the modern Democrat Party is a socialist party, if not largely a communist party.

00:18:49.000 So that's what we're up against.

00:18:50.000 There is institutional backing for these things.

00:18:53.000 And if he proves that he can win by being out and proud with this stuff, then guess what?

00:18:58.000 All the Democrats, the establishment Democrats that have said these things maybe behind closed doors, are now going to start saying this in public.

00:19:06.000 So these people really believe this.

00:19:09.000 I think that you also made a really interesting point about how our nation is the inequality gap between the really, really rich and the really, really poor is growing.

00:19:18.000 And that creates an opening. 0.96

00:19:20.000 For the Mom Donis of the world. 1.00

00:19:22.000 And I think that's a, you cannot overlook that. 0.98

00:19:25.000 And you cannot overlook the fact that these ideas, while tried and tested and have been proven failures throughout history, that a whole new generation of Americans are not going to simply embrace them because either they want to see everything burned down or they believe the lies that it's never really been tried before.

00:19:42.000 And that Mamdani's, he's just a really good guy.

00:19:44.000 So he's going to be the one that finally gets this right. 1.00

00:19:48.000 I'm, to be honest, I think we're in a really dangerous place.

00:19:51.000 And just because we had an election win in 2024, I think.

00:19:55.000 This can all slip away very quickly, and we could see New York as the precursor of things to come.

00:20:01.000 Now, yeah, he's going to present a foil, and we have to win.

00:20:05.000 We have to win that argument in the public square, but it's going to be a real challenge.

00:20:10.000 I think I'm going into this wide eyed. 0.93

00:20:12.000 I don't think he's just some clown that's going to be easy to beat. 0.82

00:20:15.000 He's got real talent.

00:20:17.000 And I agree with Blake.

00:20:17.000 I think there's something psychopathic about him.

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00:21:35.000 But, Blake, I'm sorry, Jack, let's go a level deeper.

00:21:37.000 Jack, here's my advice, both privately and publicly, to the Trump political team, to anyone that wants to run for president in 2028.

00:21:44.000 Here is my advice, and I tell them this. 0.98

00:21:46.000 I say the following I say, if we do not start to rebuild the American middle class and build an economy of owners, you are going to get hundreds of Momdanis across the country. 0.98

00:21:57.000 Inequality, price of living, economics is actually what is driving this lunatic. 1.00

00:22:02.000 Look, I'm happy to talk about the fact he's Muslim, people are afraid to talk about it. 1.00

00:22:05.000 I'm happy to talk about the fact he's a third worlder.

00:22:07.000 But, He does have an emphasis and a focus on economics. 0.85

00:22:12.000 I want you to answer that question.

00:22:13.000 And then, Angelo, while we're doing this, can you get the cut of Mamdani saying he wouldn't visit a foreign country?

00:22:19.000 Because I want to talk about that second.

00:22:20.000 But first, Blake, Jack, I want you to focus on what does it mean if we do not have a middle class economy again?

00:22:28.000 What would that mean for our national politics?

00:22:31.000 So, Charlie, here's what's going on in the populist movement and why populism is on the rise.

00:22:37.000 Populism is on the rise.

00:22:38.000 Go back to the very Very, very initial start of the Tea Party, which you could say is the rise of the populist right, and then Occupy Wall Street was the rise of the populist left.

00:22:49.000 So you got 2011, 2012, right around the same timeframe, but all of which was happening in the wake of what?

00:22:55.000 It was happening in the wake of, or no, even prior, excuse me, the Tea Party was 2009, 2010.

00:23:03.000 And so it was the bailouts, right?

00:23:05.000 The massive bank bailouts of the global financial crisis.

00:23:08.000 And then Rick Santilli gets up on CNBC and says, they are screwing you over, everyone who's a homeowner.

00:23:18.000 They're screwing you over and they're going to sell out your, or they're going to help out your big banks.

00:23:24.000 Those guys are going to get these massive bailouts from government.

00:23:27.000 And George W. Bush, in a clip, by the way, that has been almost completely scrubbed from the internet, I was able to track it down a couple of months ago, but a clip that's almost completely scrubbed says, We're going to use socialism to save capitalism.

00:23:41.000 I remember.

00:23:42.000 Use socialism to save capitalism.

00:23:44.000 Everything from that point on has led to this massive infusion of, through what you call it, quantitative easing, whatever, this huge money printing that's happened, has created massive wealth disparities in the United States.

00:23:56.000 Now, you can call me whatever you want, kind of names.

00:23:59.000 Oh, you're a conservative.

00:24:00.000 You're not supposed to be talking about wealth inequality.

00:24:02.000 Well, it's true.

00:24:03.000 Okay.

00:24:04.000 It's just true.

00:24:06.000 So people can see that those at the top are getting massively wealthy.

00:24:10.000 And are exorbitantly just taking off and skyrocketing off into the solar system, literally in the case of Jeff Bezos at one point.

00:24:19.000 Remember, Jeff Bezos during the COVID lockdowns, during the pandemic, was flying around, conducting an orbit of the planet while everyone else was locked down on Earth.

00:24:31.000 This was like the plot of a bad sci fi movie with Matt Damon.

00:24:35.000 And it generated a lot of ill will towards what we call the billionaires and millionaires or the capitalist class, whatever you want to call it.

00:24:43.000 And so the way that the populist right wants to address this problem through President Trump, through populist nationalism, through America First, is to say, hey, we don't disparage success, but what we want is for all tides, all boats to rise with that rising tide.

00:25:01.000 We want to increase the floor.

00:25:02.000 We want to raise the floor, the level of that up for lower class, working class, and then middle class.

00:25:09.000 And allow people, by the way, access to that middle class lifestyle that they've been trying to do.

00:25:14.000 And particularly, you see this with young voters.

00:25:16.000 What the populist left wants to do is they want to take this situation.

00:25:19.000 And by the way, these numbers are growing.

00:25:20.000 They're growing across the country.

00:25:23.000 And there's a lot of people. 0.99

00:25:24.000 This is what generates, by the way, the intergenerational conflict that you see between Zoomers and baby boomers right now, which is massive and absolutely real. 0.99

00:25:32.000 And if anyone who doesn't believe this, so, I mean, you're just not paying attention. 1.00

00:25:36.000 Charlie, you see this, I'm sure, a ton on campus.

00:25:40.000 But what the populist left wants is Luigi Maggioni.

00:25:43.000 They want Luigi Maggioni to come in and just start taking out.

00:25:49.000 Just start taking out the.

00:25:53.000 Sorry, that was something playing on my end.

00:25:55.000 No, that was, I think, AOC actually just popped up on the screen there. 0.91

00:26:00.000 She's so angry. 0.96

00:26:02.000 So the populist left, they want Luigi Maggioni.

00:26:06.000 They want people to start tearing them apart.

00:26:08.000 And they want to tear down everything that these CEOs and billionaires and wealthy have.

00:26:15.000 And so you're really left with two viable political options.

00:26:19.000 One viable option is the path of MAGA, the path of populist right to say, we can do this and we can settle these issues in a way that's, you know, to use the phrase, equitable for all.

00:26:32.000 Or you can go the populist left route.

00:26:34.000 And the populist left route, it's amazing because you've got Zora Mandami and Luigi Maggioni.

00:26:39.000 This takes place in the same city, right?

00:26:42.000 So Luigi Maggioni just committed a street execution of a CEO on the streets of New York City, the same city where Zora Mandami who is preaching the very same rhetoric that Luigi did?

00:26:57.000 Comes in and says, Well, we can do this by election and we can do this by law, but the pressures don't go away.

00:27:03.000 What you've really got are kind of the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks, one who wants to do it in an electoral way, one who wants to do it in an absolute tear down and kill the rich sort of way.

00:27:14.000 But either way, Charlie, for anyone who wants to run in 2028, they absolutely have to understand that these pressures are real.

00:27:23.000 They're not going away.

00:27:24.000 And when you look at the working class in the swing states that we need, particularly the Rust Belt, so Western Pennsylvania, then up into Michigan and Wisconsin states that even though Romney and Paul Ryan were from these states, they could never win them because they had no idea how to actually talk to the working class of those states.

00:27:45.000 And if you don't do that, you are going to lose.

00:27:47.000 And if you start putting things and distractions and side quests ahead of the main quest, getting rid of the illegals and helping the economy here at home, then guess what? 0.80

00:27:57.000 They are going to go in for whatever snake oil the sociopaths of the communist Marxists are going to offer. 0.95

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00:29:09.000 Okay, I want to play this piece of tape here.

00:29:11.000 I think people are probably giving this too much credit, but it is a showing of Momdani wanting to prioritize New York.

00:29:18.000 Now, people viewed this as an anti Israel sentiment, which of course Momdani hates Israel and probably hates Jews and globalizing the infantile, all that stuff.

00:29:27.000 That's Intifada.

00:29:28.000 But I think it is important because I'm going to use this clip as a way to explain Gen Z politics in a way that is flummoxing a lot of our older audience, and then I'll throw it to Blake. 0.66

00:29:39.000 Play Cut 396. 0.79

00:29:41.000 Mr. Mamdani, can I just jump in?

00:29:43.000 Would you visit Israel as mayor?

00:29:46.000 I've said in a UJA questionnaire that I believe that you need not travel to Israel to stand up for Jewish New Yorkers.

00:29:53.000 And that is what I will be doing as the mayor.

00:29:55.000 I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers and I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform, because ultimately we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.

00:30:07.000 And as we can.

00:30:08.000 Just a yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?

00:30:11.000 I believe Israel has the right to exist.

00:30:13.000 As a Jewish state?

00:30:14.000 As a state with equal rights?

00:30:14.000 Notice.

00:30:16.000 He won't say it has a right to exist as a Jewish state, be very clear.

00:30:20.000 And his answer was no, he won't visit Israel.

00:30:22.000 I said that before.

00:30:23.000 That's what he was trying to say.

00:30:24.000 No, no, no.

00:30:25.000 Unlike you, I answer that question very directly.

00:30:27.000 I want to be very clear.

00:30:28.000 I believe every state should be a state of equal rights.

00:30:30.000 Okay, thank you.

00:30:31.000 Okay, so this is important.

00:30:33.000 In the chat, genius answer, brilliant. 0.99

00:30:35.000 So is it a stupid question to ask? 1.00

00:30:37.000 You're the mayor of New York City. 1.00

00:30:39.000 You're not going to be dealing with foreign affairs, but there are a lot of Jews and Muslims in your city.

00:30:43.000 Let me tell you why this resonated with a lot of Gen Zers.

00:30:46.000 And then, Blake, I want you to explain the clip more than comment on it, which is there is this trend with younger voters saying, Our country's falling apart.

00:30:55.000 We can't afford basic necessities.

00:30:57.000 Houses are out of reach. 1.00

00:30:59.000 Stop with the foreign pandering, whatever country it might be.

00:31:02.000 And look, I'm pro Israel, obviously.

00:31:04.000 I'm explaining.

00:31:06.000 Therefore, why don't we have someone that is obsessed with us, obsessed with what's local, what's immediate, not what is abstract and foreign?

00:31:15.000 Blake.

00:31:15.000 Exactly.

00:31:16.000 And I think.

00:31:17.000 You see some awareness of this a few months ago.

00:31:19.000 We had that viral clip with Ilhan Omar where she was saying in Somali, like, I am, you know, the lawmaker for Somalis.

00:31:28.000 I will look out for Somali interests.

00:31:31.000 And then, like, that clip, it was so insane. 0.99

00:31:33.000 It was like he could have scripted that.

00:31:37.000 It was so perfect for him where he has this circular squad of people like needling him and bullying him, like, why won't you, like, take this opinion on a foreign country?

00:31:48.000 Whether you agree with that take on the foreign country or not, why is a guy running for mayor being browbeaten about whether he will endorse the particular status of a foreign state thousands of miles away?

00:32:03.000 And it was so easy for so many millions, well, I don't want to say millions, thousands of New Yorkers to look at that and be like, holy cow, everyone else running in this race is obsessed with these identity issues revolving around a foreign state, a foreign conflict.

00:32:21.000 And it was so easy for him to come out and say, Actually, I will put New York first.

00:32:25.000 Novel idea.

00:32:26.000 I will not go on foreign trips.

00:32:29.000 I will be focused on actual things relevant to New Yorkers.

00:32:33.000 Just incredibly easy political layup for this guy.

00:32:37.000 So, Andrew, can you help explain this to our audience?

00:32:41.000 Which is that some older folks say they would have thought Momdani gave a terrible answer.

00:32:46.000 Oh my goodness, he'd said he would not visit a foreign country or visit Israel.

00:32:51.000 When in reality, younger people loved it, not necessarily because they hate Israel.

00:32:55.000 But there's some vibe or aura to that, which is like, no, I care about New York City.

00:33:00.000 Can you help explain that for those that might not quite capture what is animating the under 30 crowd?

00:33:07.000 Yeah, I mean, the generational divide, Charlie, is so extreme.

00:33:10.000 And it's very, very hard to explain this to like boomers or older folks.

00:33:16.000 It's just the generational sea change, I think, is more dramatic than any of my over 50 friends understand or realize. 0.61

00:33:16.000 No disrespect. 0.61

00:33:26.000 If you are under a certain age, especially under 30, but even if you're under 40, 45, you're sick of feeling like America has to be drawn into foreign conflicts because of Israel, that our alignment with Israel from a foreign policy standpoint, there's a belief that it's caused more harm than good. 0.63

00:33:46.000 And a lot of people are sympathetic to Israel, even in that sub 40 category.

00:33:52.000 They just don't want to feel so attached to the hip, and they don't like when politicians signal.

00:33:58.000 That they're marching in lockstep with whatever BB Netanyahu says.

00:34:02.000 And that is it.

00:34:03.000 Honestly, this is a movement, Charlie, that was that in some ways Trump helped start and ignite and change the way that we look at our foreign politics versus our domestic politics. 0.58

00:34:15.000 And people, I think there is a broad realization on the left and the right that we have real problems here in the United States and we got to deal with those and we have to stop getting distracted by foreign.

00:34:29.000 Wars, foreign involvements, engagements, and distractions.

00:34:32.000 And that doesn't mean those things aren't important.

00:34:34.000 I think Trump has showed us a way that there is a third way, right?

00:34:38.000 You don't have to get trapped ideologically or on the debate stage into these false binaries, and that you can say, Listen, I just love America more, and I want to focus on this.

00:34:46.000 And to the extent that we can solve foreign entanglements quickly, easily, or violently, those have to be quick. 0.78

00:34:54.000 That's the key. 0.58

00:34:56.000 And I just want to reiterate, Charlie, if there is a divide that I have seen that is more stark than anything, is the generational divide on Israel.

00:35:06.000 Jack, do you want to comment on that? 0.55

00:35:09.000 I mean, it's just true.

00:35:11.000 It's something where, you know, it's generational, that's for sure.

00:35:19.000 It also comes down, I think, to a variety of factors, people getting their media from different places.

00:35:25.000 So if you're someone who watches, you know, on specifically the Israel question, if you're someone who watches TV, you know, you're looking at images of, you know, politicians and you're hearing people give speeches.

00:35:37.000 You're going on TikTok.

00:35:38.000 You're seeing up until the ceasefire, of course, you're just seeing.

00:35:42.000 images of this parade of horribles out of Gaza and it's just over and over and over.

00:35:47.000 You see it on X as well and it's something that kind of galvanizes you and then you hear, wait a minute, you know, my tax dollars are involved in this.

00:35:55.000 I'm not making an argument here.

00:35:56.000 I'm just sort of explaining the way that Gen Z, when I talk to Gen Zers, how they seem to respond to it. 0.55

00:36:02.000 They say, wait a minute, why are my tax dollars going to fund some war in a place that I've never visited against a group of people that doesn't affect me in any way whatsoever versus, And I can't afford basic food and I can't afford rent and I can't afford to be able to own a home or if I can't, you know, get married and have kids and do all of these things. 0.67

00:36:24.000 And that's something that cuts across party lines, that's something that affects people very deeply, because these are pocketbook issues, these are wallet issues, and so people want to know why it is that the United States Of America, or politicians right, they sort of just look at it as politicians, oh well, they don't care, because they just want to do everything to serve the baby boomers, and the baby boomers want to watch whatever is a better TV show On cable news.

00:36:49.000 Meanwhile, it feels to me, and again, I'm not a Zoomer, but when I talk to Zoomers about this, they say, I just don't feel like I'm hurt.

00:37:01.000 I feel like I'm told to shut up.

00:37:02.000 I feel like I'm told that, oh, I either need to pull myself up by my bootstraps or I get labeled anti Semitic or I get labeled some bigoted, zealoted, anti whatever kind of name.

00:37:17.000 And it's like, no, it's just, I see my government working on behalf.

00:37:22.000 Of people all around that, such as Israel, but it's all around the world, all the USAID stuff that was going on.

00:37:26.000 And a lot of these same forces, you know, a lot of these same pressures are the same things that President Trump and his direct popularity came from, was by saying that we will be able to present an opinion and present a solution to all of these problems by saying we're going to put America first, which means putting Americans first.

00:37:49.000 And this was even in the wake of the, you know, tens of millions in pallets of cash to Iran or.

00:37:55.000 You know, giving billions to Afghanistan for a government that was just going to collapse and hand it over to the Taliban again and again and again, the trillions of dollars spent in the Middle East that's what led to the rise of President Trump in the first place.

00:38:09.000 And my own worry, though, is that if these same issues aren't dealt with, then you're going to get people like a Momdani or a Luigi Maggioni or others that are going to come up and use them to go in a very different direction.

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00:39:27.000 Let's move to the 4 a.m. topic.

00:39:29.000 Yes.

00:39:30.000 All right.

00:39:30.000 So this is very fun.

00:39:31.000 Let's get right into it because we have the hard stop.

00:39:33.000 So the 4 a.m. club, this got attention.

00:39:35.000 Last, I think last week from the free press, it's been going a while.

00:39:39.000 Uh, basically, let's just play it.

00:39:43.000 Play 376. 0.56

00:39:45.000 Left wing version of QAnon is here, and they believe that Kamala Harris really won the election.

00:39:49.000 This group is called the 4 a.m. Club.

00:39:51.000 Basically, on November 6th, thousands of people were woken up around 4 a.m., and those people were called to anchor in the higher timeline where Kamala was the winner.

00:40:00.000 The call was sent out, and we received it.

00:40:03.000 It was founded by this woman who goes by Gia Prism on TikTok.

00:40:07.000 I am a psychic medium.

00:40:09.000 I'm a healer.

00:40:10.000 She sort of gives downloads, as she calls them, from spirit.

00:40:13.000 This contest wasn't right.

00:40:15.000 We will yet get a different result in the end.

00:40:18.000 I was shown him falling from something to do with blood on the brain.

00:40:22.000 Okay, I'm seeing lower level leaders will be removed before the top ones. 0.95

00:40:28.000 It bears a striking resemblance to QAnon, except everything has been feminized. 0.80

00:40:32.000 Instead of searching through Reddit boards and 8chan to find what they're looking for, they go deep within themselves, trusting their feminine intuition, their gut. 0.81

00:40:40.000 The divine goddess, the 4 a.m. clubbers, I don't think are going to be scaling the capital anytime soon, but I do think they represent the next chapter in the story of political conspiracies. 0.59

00:40:50.000 It shows that the American population feels both completely out of control and lied to.

00:40:56.000 Well, first of all, uh, that was great reporting by that was Barry Weiss's sister, it was really well done.

00:41:02.000 Amazing, yeah, it's Barry Weiss's sister.

00:41:04.000 What's her name?

00:41:04.000 Susie Weiss, so credit to her.

00:41:06.000 That was a really well put together summary and honestly kind of based being like the feminine intuition, like it was really good.

00:41:12.000 So, uh Credit to her.

00:41:14.000 I hope to have her on the show.

00:41:15.000 Blake, I'll start with you because you were just losing it in the midst of this.

00:41:19.000 It's just, it really is.

00:41:20.000 So, I've obviously, you know, I've always been a fan of some reading some of that strange stuff.

00:41:24.000 You love this.

00:41:25.000 Real Raw news, that like weird, you know, military tribunal stuff, which is still going, by the way.

00:41:29.000 They're loving the Alligator Alcatraz thing.

00:41:32.000 All of the deep skaters are going to Alligator Alcatraz.

00:41:35.000 They'll be executed there, sure enough, on Real Raw news.

00:41:38.000 All that strange stuff.

00:41:39.000 But yeah, like this, how it's the perfect mirror image where it incorporates all the like left wing ways.

00:41:45.000 So, like, it's a vibe.

00:41:46.000 If anything, it's almost, it's a lot like that Mandela effect thing.

00:41:50.000 Have you heard about this?

00:41:51.000 Oh, Mandela's interesting.

00:41:52.000 That's really interesting.

00:41:54.000 You don't like it?

00:41:55.000 Well, I think it's sort of silly because some people really believe in it.

00:41:59.000 Well, hold on.

00:41:59.000 But there is something.

00:42:00.000 Do you not misremember things from your childhood?

00:42:02.000 Yeah, people do.

00:42:03.000 Why is it that other people also misremember what you misremember?

00:42:06.000 Because it's an easy thing to misremember.

00:42:08.000 Like, I.

00:42:09.000 No, the fruit of the loom one is I'm not going to lie.

00:42:13.000 I think there's some.

00:42:14.000 The fruit of the loom one is the one I'm militant on this.

00:42:16.000 The fruit of the loom one is just because there's like, A different company that had a cornucopia in it, and people think of that.

00:42:22.000 No, there's 100% a cornucopia.

00:42:23.000 By the way, it was the Berenstein Bears, not Berenstein Bears. 0.87

00:42:26.000 That's another example where they all think it's Berenstein Bears because Steen with the E I N is way more common.

00:42:32.000 There's a ton of steens out there.

00:42:33.000 I'm not even saying there's Mandela effect.

00:42:35.000 I'm saying it's worth talking.

00:42:36.000 There's something going on.

00:42:37.000 There's something to this.

00:42:39.000 I don't know what it is.

00:42:40.000 So, this 4 a.m. club fits in so perfectly with that.

00:42:43.000 I see.

00:42:43.000 He's looping us through the whole thing.

00:42:46.000 They basically have this feeling, and it can't just be, oh, I had a feeling.

00:42:52.000 Mandela effect's not a feeling.

00:42:53.000 We have evidence that we all agree.

00:42:54.000 That's different.

00:42:55.000 We don't have evidence.

00:42:56.000 Meaning, we all have a memory of something.

00:43:00.000 That's different than, like, I woke up and I think Kamala is president.

00:43:04.000 But keep going.

00:43:05.000 I totally do.

00:43:06.000 You know, I feel like actually what we should do, we should play the follow up clip where they really get into this because I just love it.

00:43:11.000 It's they think we're merging with like a new timeline, like we're in the wrong timeline and we've got to return to the correct one.

00:43:19.000 Wait, Blake, can we throw up the 400 Fruit of the Loom, the cornucopia?

00:43:23.000 Because this one just blew my mind.

00:43:26.000 So they say that it's always been the left one, but everybody seems to remember the cornucopia.

00:43:33.000 I completely remember the cornucopia.

00:43:37.000 I think it's a marketing ploy to make them relevant again.

00:43:40.000 That's what I think it is.

00:43:41.000 Admittedly, I didn't even know there was a cornucopia, but I didn't even know there was a cornucopia.

00:43:46.000 I remember the cornucopia.

00:43:47.000 I could tell you there was a cornucopia.

00:43:49.000 No, I'm telling you right now, the cornucopia is legit.

00:43:51.000 We're being lied to.

00:43:52.000 Apparently, the old logo had brown leaves in it, and that's what people kind of thought it was a cornucopia.

00:43:58.000 That one trips down.

00:43:59.000 No, it's not like I thought it was a cornucopia.

00:44:02.000 It was that cornucopia.

00:44:04.000 Like, that's it right there.

00:44:06.000 Pretty sure you can, like, find old clothes with the cornucopia on it.

00:44:11.000 100%.

00:44:12.000 Yeah, see, look at it.

00:44:13.000 My mom has actually been going through some of our old home videos.

00:44:18.000 I wonder, like, from when I was a kid.

00:44:20.000 I wonder if, and, like, you know, digitizing them and stuff.

00:44:23.000 So I want to see if maybe we can test this and see if there's, you know, like a logo or something.

00:44:28.000 Because I remember having one when I was in, like, grade, you know, maybe kindergarten, preschool or something.

00:44:35.000 But I feel like that's where I remember the word cornucopia, right?

00:44:38.000 You learn, I guess, around things.

00:44:39.000 That's how we all learned it.

00:44:40.000 Yeah, like, what is that?

00:44:41.000 Hey, what is that?

00:44:42.000 Oh, that's a cornucopia.

00:44:43.000 What's a cornucopia?

00:44:45.000 And then you just say it.

00:44:48.000 I feel we should play the other clip of this just because it really does get into how loopy they are.

00:44:53.000 So this is Gia Prism.

00:44:54.000 She's like the face of the 4 a.m. club, really getting into it.

00:44:59.000 It has to be seen to believe. 0.95

00:45:00.000 Let's play 386.

00:45:02.000 We were woken up in the night, eerily around 4 a.m.

00:45:07.000 I've read every single one of those comments, and here I'm going to tell you what it all means.

00:45:12.000 The short of it is, we were called to anchor in the same timeline.

00:45:17.000 So many people are saying, I'm on the wrong timeline.

00:45:20.000 No, here's the truth.

00:45:22.000 The higher timeline where the divine feminine anchors in does include a supposed election of the male candidate.

00:45:31.000 I'm not going to say his name because his corruption needs to be revealed.

00:45:35.000 And it needs to be so massive, so undeniable, and so chaotic that people who have been fooled by him can finally wake up and come out of the spell.

00:45:43.000 So here's the overview of what people were experiencing.

00:45:46.000 Some of us were woken up with a feeling of dread.

00:45:48.000 Some of us were physically vomiting, purging.

00:45:51.000 Others were just in fear and panic.

00:45:53.000 And then on the other side of things, you had people who were woken up from dreams where they saw her winning, where they heard her winning, where they saw certain states flip and go blue, where they saw a map of the United States.

00:46:04.000 So many of us were tuned into the timeline that Kamala Harris is the winner.

00:46:09.000 And there's another subset of people who were actually feeling the energies and who were repeating mantras.

00:46:16.000 Energies.

00:46:17.000 There's actually so much like a combination of.

00:46:23.000 Of, like, QAnon and the Mandela effect.

00:46:25.000 Because the Mandela effect, part of the theory is that it was like that in the past, and we had the timeline shift.

00:46:30.000 A lot of them fixate on 9 11.

00:46:32.000 Like after 9 11, the timeline shifted because it was such a dramatic event.

00:46:35.000 Oh, is that right?

00:46:36.000 Yes, that's a common part of it.

00:46:39.000 And then, of course, the QAnon version is, you know, the trust the plan thing.

00:46:42.000 Like all that's the secret military tribunals are happening, but like we're not ready. 0.58

00:46:47.000 It had to, like, people had to be ready to accept what was going on.

00:46:50.000 They wouldn't believe it if they just did it.

00:46:52.000 So you have to, you know, wait.

00:46:54.000 And it's like that where we had to let this happen because people wouldn't accept how corrupt Trump was unless he was allowed to win and we got a temporary.

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00:49:21.000 I love how they say the higher timeline is the feminine divine timeline. 0.96

00:49:26.000 And I know Jack really agrees with this. 0.97

00:49:28.000 So that the feminine is the higher. 1.00

00:49:31.000 No, I totally believe the 4am club. 1.00

00:49:34.000 I believe the 4am club.

00:49:35.000 I 100% agree with everything they're saying.

00:49:39.000 I'm a Christian, so I believe in the supernatural.

00:49:41.000 I believe in obviously different timelines and different dimensions in that sense, a higher plane, lower plane that they're talking about.

00:49:49.000 Because as a Christian, we're called to believe these things because that's what the Bible is about.

00:49:53.000 And so when they talk about it, though, it's just they've got their order mixed up because that's a lower timeline that they're talking about where Kamala Harris is able to become president and unleashes these demonic energies of communism across the world.

00:50:09.000 As it turns out, the true timeline is the timeline that reverted into place.

00:50:15.000 And so we were on a trajectory where perhaps we were in this false timeline created.

00:50:21.000 You know, you could say at some point in 2020 or whatever, but now we're back into base reality.

00:50:27.000 So they were trying to put us in this false reality where, again, and so many people can look around and see evidence of the false reality all around you.

00:50:36.000 Lies were treated as truth.

00:50:38.000 Up was treated as down. 0.75

00:50:39.000 Men were called women.

00:50:40.000 Women were called men. 0.93

00:50:41.000 This is all emblematic of a false reality that they were trying to impose upon true reality. 0.99

00:50:48.000 So we reverted back.

00:50:49.000 That's what they're upset about and what they felt regarding these timeline shifts was actually the shift back.

00:50:58.000 Back to the true reality, which is base reality, and as we all know, base reality is based.

00:51:04.000 What if we were in the false timeline, but Shinzo Abe was fighting in the spiritual realm because we know him and Trump were friends, and so we were headed towards the bad timeline.

00:51:17.000 But then Shinzo Abe saved Trump's life in Butler, Pennsylvania on July 13th.

00:51:22.000 You've seen this, right, Charlie?

00:51:23.000 Like the idea that that's why he turned his head.

00:51:26.000 So I heard the whisper of an old friend.

00:51:27.000 Maybe that's what saved us from the dark timeline.

00:51:30.000 That is canon.

00:51:32.000 What I love about it is it's a funny meme in and of itself, but what's genuinely heartwarming is Japanese people are aware of this and like find it extremely, extremely heartwarming that Americans came up with this idea.

00:51:44.000 And like they make all these like affectionate, like Shinzo Abe, Donald Trump, best friend forever images that you can find on like Japanese people.

00:51:52.000 Abe is his guardian angel.

00:51:53.000 Yeah.

00:51:54.000 He is the guardian angel.

00:51:56.000 I'll watch the skies, I'll watch the streets.

00:52:00.000 I miss the Abe Trump.

00:52:01.000 Like, look right there.

00:52:03.000 See, there's Shinzo looking over Trump on July 13th.

00:52:06.000 Donorudo-san!

00:52:07.000 Donorudo-san!

00:52:08.000 Get up!

00:52:10.000 There's whole things about this.

00:52:11.000 No, Donald, you must turn.

00:52:13.000 This is not your time.

00:52:14.000 And then it's like Shinzo Abe, the one longer one.

00:52:16.000 It's like he's got a katana blade and he hits the bullet out of midair.

00:52:20.000 Yeah, 406.

00:52:21.000 Oh, there it is.

00:52:21.000 There it is.

00:52:24.000 And it's, you know, Donald, why did you suddenly turn your head?

00:52:30.000 And he said, you know, for a moment, I thought I heard the sound of the voice of an old friend.

00:52:37.000 Isn't that so good?

00:52:38.000 This is a joke.

00:52:40.000 Our spiritual energy stuff is so much better than what we're talking about.

00:52:43.000 But it's also, there's a joke comical side to it.

00:52:45.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:52:46.000 And the left is just like, I woke up and I was vomiting because nothing, you know, live women apparently need a reason to, you know, puke into the toilet all the time. 0.92

00:52:54.000 And it had to be because the timeline's wrong.

00:52:58.000 We're just like, no, obviously Shinzo Abe came in to save his best friend.

00:53:00.000 That's like a way cooler thing than like, The divine feminine energies. 0.99

00:53:05.000 Sorry, sorry, sorry, liberal ladies. 1.00

00:53:07.000 The right is better at coming up with funny spiritual woo woo. 0.66

00:53:10.000 I love it.

00:53:12.000 Final thoughts here, Andrew, 4 a.m. Club, and you can throw Mandela Effect in there if you want.

00:53:19.000 Well, I actually have a final thought.

00:53:21.000 I mean, I wanted to play this video because I thought it was great.

00:53:25.000 I don't know if we have time, but there really is two pasts before the American population Mamdani, Luigi.

00:53:32.000 This is.

00:53:33.000 You know, this terrifying kind of vigilantism, coercion, far left wing revolution, or you get kind of this national populism, conservative populism of Trump, the MAGA movement.

00:53:47.000 You have two routes in front of you.

00:53:49.000 One wants to burn it all down and destroy everything and destroy wealth and seize it all.

00:53:53.000 And the other is going to take some tough medicine, but we're going to get to the other side and it's going to actually reset.

00:53:59.000 If we're going to talk about timelines, it's going to reset the American timeline and put it back on.

00:54:03.000 On solid footing, I really believe that, and so hopefully, our people have enough virtue and common sense and wisdom and understanding of history to choose the right path.

00:54:13.000 And, um, I think New York's going to be a really interesting test case, but a scary one.

00:54:18.000 Hopefully, we we uh we make it out the other side.

00:54:23.000 Last thought, Jack.

00:54:24.000 No, I completely agree.

00:54:26.000 And unfortunately, even with all of the good that we've done, all of the good that the little bit that, you know, that we've done, but the massive amount that President Trump and his movement have done, getting on visionary leaders like JD Vance and so many others, these are huge problems.

00:54:45.000 They are problems that still remain.

00:54:47.000 And in pockets of the country like New York, they are incontrovertible that it is going on and these pressures are leading to these outcomes.

00:54:58.000 President Trump faces before him a very serious threat.

00:55:02.000 And of course, it's New York City, right?

00:55:04.000 Think about this.

00:55:05.000 So I mentioned Luigi Maggioni and I mentioned Zorhan Mamdani.

00:55:08.000 But one thing that we haven't pointed out here is that New York City is the same exact city that produced Donald Trump himself.

00:55:19.000 And so the fact that, you know, it really is New York, our greatest city that's leading to all of these changes that affects the entire nation, then perhaps we should actually fight for it.

00:55:30.000 And we should actually fight for.

00:55:32.000 The great things that we've created as an American civilization.

00:55:36.000 And I think if there's anything that you want to say on going into the 4th of July, it's that.

00:55:41.000 Have a great Independence Day, everybody.

00:55:42.000 We have to dash.

00:55:43.000 Blake, final thoughts, 10 seconds.

00:55:47.000 No, no.

00:55:48.000 I'm just going to catch Blake at 4 a.m.

00:55:52.000 Next time you wake up at 4 a.m., remember, you might get a vision that Kamala is president.

00:55:57.000 Reject it and live in reality.

00:55:59.000 You have to reject it or we might get consumed by that reality.

00:56:01.000 We might get sucked into the vortex.

00:56:03.000 You have to win the spiritual war.

00:56:05.000 It's bears forever.

00:56:07.000 Don't believe the lies and the cornucopia is real.

00:56:09.000 We are being lied.

00:56:11.000 Mandela Effect, next stop crime season.

00:56:17.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 03, 2026

Thoughtcrime Flashback: The Fourth of July 2025

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