00:00:02.000Typically, we do our thought crime show, which we are doing right now, but with the breaking news, we have our panel and we are pivoting to this breaking, breaking news.
00:00:10.000A Manhattan jury has found Trump guilty on all counts.
00:00:13.000We have Andrew, we have Blake, we have Jack.
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00:01:23.000But what if we look back and we realize we were just inches away from victory and that's when we decided to give up?
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00:01:37.000You're going to hear how we're going to win in 2024.
00:01:41.000With the biggest speakers in the movement, featuring President Donald J. Trump.
00:01:46.000We're going to fight and we're going to win.
00:01:48.000Charlie Kirk, Devek Ramaswamy, Governor Christy Nolan, Dr. Ben Carson, Steve Bannon, Candace Owens, Laura Trump, Senator Rick Scott, Congressman Matt Giggs, Benny Johnson, Jack Posobiec, and more.
00:02:10.000June 14th through 16th, 2024 is our final battle in Detroit, Michigan.
00:02:16.000The great silent majority is rising like never before.
00:03:49.000We're a nation in decline, serious decline.
00:03:52.000Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now from prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists, and they're taking over our country.
00:04:02.000We have a country that's in big trouble, but this was a rigged decision right from day one with a conflicted judge who should have never been allowed to try this case, never.
00:04:13.000And we will fight for our Constitution.
00:04:45.000Seeing Blake in the MAGA hat is amazing.
00:04:48.000So look, a Manhattan jury has found Trump guilty on all counts.
00:04:52.000We knew from the start this was the most likely outcome.
00:04:55.000This case was engineered for years from the very top of the Democrat apparatus to bring down Trump using a rigged law in a rigged courtroom with a rigged jury.
00:05:05.000Trump will appeal and this will eventually be overturned, but this is a scar on our nation.
00:05:10.000For today, at least, this country looks a lot more like Venezuela or China or Russia than the United States of America.
00:05:17.000Now we must be ready to maintain our resolve.
00:05:20.000There will be an unprecedented push to say that Trump cannot be allowed to win and that we cannot elect a convicted felon.
00:06:21.000Charlie, what I'm seeing out there is a tale of two cities.
00:06:26.000And it's a situation where, yes, inside the halls of the power elite, the brokers, the folks of the capital, if you will, they're cheering, they're celebrating, they're throwing up their green and blue hair in applause and adulation.
00:06:45.000But meanwhile, the regular people who live out in the districts, the people who actually put this country together every day, the people who drive the trucks, the people who keep us safe, the people who actually run the businesses, the muscular class, as you like to say, Charlie, those people are incensed.
00:07:08.000And I'll tell you, the number one thing that's flooding my inbox right now, people are saying, Jack, how do I donate to Donald Trump?
00:07:16.000And I don't mean just people who, you know, who know me and know that I'm kind of involved in politics and all this.
00:07:22.000I mean people who are just crawling out of the woodwork, family members that I only talk to on holidays, friends from childhood.
00:07:47.000Just moons before the show started today, I maxed out to Donald J. Trump for the entire year.
00:07:53.000And by the way, just today alone at Turning Point Action, we raised nearly a million dollars today just at Turning Point Action for ballot chasing.
00:08:01.000And just today alone, small dollar donations, yes.
00:08:04.000But, you know, I was just on the phone again.
00:08:06.000I was working the phones here, and I got a text message from one of our donors.
00:08:10.000They said, Charlie, I'm going to give $250,000.
00:08:14.000We are getting incoming like you wouldn't believe.
00:08:17.000And I want to throw it to Andrew here, but I'm going to read this one text message from an anti-Trump Republican who is in my orbit in my family.
00:09:05.000Andrew, from your analysis on social, what are we looking at or feeling right now?
00:09:11.000You know, Charlie, the thing that struck me is that they've spent basically the last six, seven years trying to paint Donald Trump as Putin.
00:09:19.000And in their zeal to do so, they've revealed that they are, in fact, Putin.
00:09:25.000They are absolutely, I think they've completely jumped the shark.
00:09:29.000I want to throw up this image, 158, guys.
00:09:32.000If you could do that, this is a crazy gut check right here.
00:09:37.000If you're Democrats, I think Charlie, you tweeted something like, you're about to reap the whirlwind, quoting Chuck U. Schumer.
00:09:46.000So this is Guy Benson responding to a guy named Con Carroll who said, through two primaries and two general elections, I have never voted for Trump.
00:09:56.000I would crawl over broken glass to vote for him now.
00:09:59.000And Guy says, I've gotten a lot of these texts like this.
00:10:03.000No idea, like, you know, if this will offset the negative.
00:10:06.000Then you look down and there's Peter Meyer, who literally voted to impeach Donald Trump.
00:10:15.000You know, a conservative, quote unquote, who voted to impeach Donald Trump, just said, same.
00:10:21.000If that's not a vibe check of where this kangaroo court out of New York has thrust the American population where it's, you know, put just normy, moderate people, I don't know what is.
00:10:35.000This is crazy to see that image right there.
00:10:39.000And I mean, I think when you, we talk a lot about boomerangs, we talk a lot about this stuff.
00:10:44.000This is unlike anything we've ever seen.
00:10:47.000This is the Mar-a-Lago raid on steroids, which is the only thing I can think of that comes anywhere close to this.
00:11:13.000And so, Blake, there's a series of tweets here that show how the left is not really even comfortable celebrating this.
00:11:19.000Almost as if that, unless you're like a completely dark and suppressed individual that has completely, that has just your soul has been overtaken by the shadow, that even they're like a little bit worried about this.
00:11:34.000So, Blake, talk about how in 2020 they were celebrating in the streets.
00:12:03.000So they added, guilty, guilty, and then walked back inside.
00:12:09.000And I think a lot of us might remember the Saturday after the fall election.
00:12:14.000It's when they called the race for Joe Biden, there was an actual pretty spontaneous reaction from the left where they went outside and they had very cringe celebrations, honking horns in the street and all that.
00:12:28.000They posted their Twitter videos of them dancing, all of that.
00:16:37.000He will get bail, it's true, but he's in a whole different status in society in the legal system, in the rule of law.
00:16:45.000That's not only fitting, but a kind of miracle is too strong a word, but a really a day for celebration just because of the work like clockwork of the system, powered by not the personalities, but the law.
00:17:03.000And that guy was going to go all Jeffrey Toobin.
00:17:05.000And he was about to do something though.
00:17:53.000The vibes for the Democrat Party seems to be completely off here.
00:17:59.000So Andrew, there were reports and I want to make sure they're verified that there was celebration at the Biden reelection campaign headquarters.
00:18:08.000Is is that correct and either of you can chime in here?
00:18:26.000I hope they at least wanted this to happen.
00:18:29.000It'd be pretty embarrassing if they'd already decided they didn't.
00:18:31.000They didn't want Trump to be convicted already.
00:18:34.000I do think it is an image that will age, well for us and badly for them.
00:18:40.000I think that'll be the sort of thing on November 6th.
00:18:43.000People will be posting it and thinking like good job guys, you screwed it up again.
00:18:48.000Uh, that's kind of been a recurring thing With Trump, they'll badly want something to happen and it'll blow up in their face.
00:18:53.000Remember, back in 2015, the Hillary Clinton campaign tried to encourage the Donald Trump candidacy because they thought he'd be the easiest guy to beat.
00:19:02.000And they were regretting that a year later.
00:19:04.000And I could easily see this being the case where they'll think, why did we convict this guy?
00:19:12.000Remember, the weakest point for Donald Trump between him leaving office and now, the weakest point for him was that window just after the midterm election where people were thinking Republicans didn't get their red wave.
00:19:58.000Alvin Bragg says he's just doing his job.
00:20:01.000It is hard to put into words the craven nature of this lunatic, where he has allowed crime to go all throughout New York.
00:20:12.00024,000 plus New Yorkers have been assaulted on the streets so far this year.
00:20:16.000He has downgraded 53% of felonies to misdemeanors.
00:20:20.000It is open season in New York, unless you are a political dissident, unless you have a political view that they don't like.
00:20:27.000And I want everybody in the audience to understand, you may not like Donald Trump, but if you have any admiration for the United States of America, for our Constitution, for checks and balances, for consent to the government, for the tradition that built the West, then today is an outrage.
00:20:42.000And there is only one option, which is you send a message in November that you still believe in our customs and our traditions.
00:21:06.000And what I feel is gratitude to work alongside phenomenal public servants who do that each and every day in matters that you all write about and make the press and in lots of matters that you don't.
00:22:38.000His job was to make Trump have to wear this label like an albatross around his neck.
00:22:44.000Now, going into the general election, hasn't even been nominated yet.
00:22:48.000By the way, the sentencing, we haven't even talked about this yet, but the sentencing has now been scheduled for, I think, three days before the beginning of the Republican convention.
00:23:20.000And that's the end of the day because they want to put Donald Trump behind bars and deny him the ability to have that convention.
00:23:30.000By the way, they know this will all get appealed on, you know, it'll all get overturned on appeal, maybe not at the direct level, but certainly at a higher court level.
00:23:39.000The point is so that they get to run around and say, and you see these little Democrats already doing it, convicted felon Donald Trump, convicted Stephen King's running around out there running his mouth.
00:23:49.000Stephen King hasn't written a good book in 40 years since the last time since Robert De Niro opened a movie that, you know, you have Donald Trump convicted felon.
00:23:57.000And that's what Alvin Bragg's job was from the very start.
00:24:02.000That was also Judge Juan Rashon's job from the very start.
00:24:05.000And I wouldn't be surprised if Juan Rashon's name finds itself on the shortlist for appointments to the federal bench by the Biden administration.
00:24:12.000Of course, they wouldn't be so brazen as to do it this term.
00:24:15.000But if Biden is somehow able to steal the election, then guess what?
00:24:19.000They'll be doing that in the next term.
00:25:40.000Hakeem Jeffries, yes, he said America is a nation built upon the rule of law.
00:25:44.000The jury has spoken and carefully rendered a decision.
00:25:48.000Responsible leadership requires the verdict to be respected.
00:25:52.000And then Chuck Schumer has not issued a statement.
00:25:56.000I know that the Biden campaign and the Biden White House issued a very just sort of a ho-hum statement.
00:26:03.000It was not spiking the football, which was actually at odds from some of the original reporting saying that they were going to have a press conference and do a whole song of dance after the verdict.
00:27:31.000We have President Donald Trump, who is now a political prisoner and a martyr against the regime.
00:27:35.000The regime that has made you poor, the regime that has sent your sons and daughters overseas needlessly and to foreign adventurous wars, the regime that has kept the border open, they have now tried to remove the one person that has decided to try to stand up for you and fight for you.
00:27:53.000We are rallying behind him in Detroit, Michigan in two weeks, two weeks from today.
00:27:58.000We have Avek Ramaswamy, Steve Bannon, Ben Carson, Candace Owens, Donald Trump Jr., and of course, President Donald Trump is our keynote.
00:28:13.000But what if we look back and we realize we were just inches away from victory, and that's when we decided to give up.
00:28:20.000Join us and thousands of American patriots for the summer convention that all are involved.
00:28:28.000You're going to hear how we're going to win in 2024.
00:28:31.000Giving speakers in the movement, featuring President Donald J. Trump, Charlie Trek, Donald Trump Jr., the vote Ron Swamp, Governor Chris Dean Lowell, Dr. Ben Carsten, Telsey Gangler, Steve Bend, Candace Owens, Warren Trump, Senator Rick Scott, Kimberly Ginfoyle, Congressman Matt Gates, Billy Johnson, Jack Masoga, Louise Elton, Congressman Eon Trump, Brendan Tatum, and more.
00:29:00.000June 14th through 16th, 2024 is our final battle in Detroit, Michigan.
00:29:06.000The great silent majority is rising like never before.
00:30:26.000It is Donald Trump, how should he handle this?
00:30:29.000Should this now be a pillar of Donald Trump's campaign or should he just focus on Biden?
00:30:35.000So I've had some thoughts about this, and we've talked about this off screen.
00:30:39.000So I think the way that this could turn to Joe Biden's advantage is he would like the election to be a referendum on Donald Trump, purely on Donald Trump.
00:30:52.000Because if he does that, well, you know, about 50%, maybe a little half, still don't, they unbalanced, don't like Donald Trump.
00:30:59.000Donald Trump, most people are not going to, most people are not going to vote for him.
00:31:04.000And, you know, just make it focus on Trump himself.
00:31:08.000And what he doesn't want, he doesn't want an election about Joe Biden because Joe Biden has like the lowest approval ratings of any president since, you know, like Bush at his absolute worst.
00:31:18.000So he has disastrous approval and it's getting worse and it's a huge mess.
00:31:22.000And most people, when polled, think Donald Trump was a better president than Joe Biden.
00:31:26.000So he doesn't want a referendum on Biden and he doesn't want the election to be Trump versus Biden, who's better.
00:31:32.000He would prefer it to just be all about Trump.
00:31:35.000And what I will say is Donald Trump has great political instincts, but I do think one of his biggest weaknesses is he does sometimes conflate his own personal stuff with the stuff of national importance.
00:31:49.000Now, this admittedly does blur the two.
00:31:51.000But what I think is the biggest winning move for Trump is anytime like Joe Biden tries to bring this up in a debate, Trump says you're deflecting from the fact you're a disastrous president.
00:32:09.000You're trying to buy votes with like illegal amnesties on student loans, anything else.
00:32:15.000And that's why you're trying to throw me in jail with this sham thing.
00:32:18.000So you throw it in at the end, say, this is what you're doing because you're otherwise a disastrous president.
00:32:24.000And everyone else who supports Trump, all of his surrogates, you, his vice president, his vice presidential pick, Vivek, Vance, whoever it is, all the rest of us, we're all going to be saying plenty that this is a rigged process to throw Donald Trump in jail because it is.
00:32:40.000But for Trump himself, the key thing is I was a better president.
00:32:46.000And that's why he's trying to throw me behind bars.
00:32:48.000And I think that's the winning message.
00:32:49.000And you don't want to get bogged down where Donald Trump is saying, oh, the judge was biased.
00:32:56.000This part of the trial was rigged against me.
00:32:59.000Don't get into the thicket of stuff you're only going to understand if you are following this every day on television because most people weren't.
00:33:06.000And they won't know for sure whether it's true or not.
00:33:09.000But what they do know is Joe Biden's a terrible president and the country was better in 2018.
00:33:15.000So Jack, I mean, I received, now I'd say the shock that I get from some people, the can't believe texts, the I don't understand texts.
00:33:47.000The system of justice that we have bet our entire future on is not what we thought it once was.
00:33:53.000And I think this is a deep point that we must explore tonight, which is that the left, all they cared about was using power and taking over institutions to then take over the country.
00:34:07.000We have reverence for our documents, our traditions, and we've been afraid to entertain it.
00:34:14.000And we've held up as this ideal, this holy ideal that our justice system will always save us.
00:34:32.000I imagine you've been receiving some of the same.
00:34:36.000Charlie, it's so interesting to me because all throughout when I was down in Charlotte last weekend and we were actually with President Trump briefly, and then even just being on my phone this week, people all keep texting me, oh, do you think Trump's going to pull this out?
00:34:54.000Do you think the jury is going to acquit him?
00:34:56.000And I just keep responding, he's going to be found guilty.
00:35:00.000I was very consistent on air that, yeah, there's these, you know, kind of like what-if scenarios, sure, fine, but you know, more than likely he's going to be found guilty because show trial, show verdict.
00:35:11.000And it goes, it reminds me of something that we find in the Bolshevik Revolution, where there's this line that says, even as the Bolsheviks were taking power, that so many people just followed the usual course of daily life without realizing that they would soon become the victims of the horrors that would befall them.
00:35:34.000And that's written by Pyotr Rangel, who was the leader of the white army again that fought in the civil war against the communists.
00:35:41.000And so it's this idea that when there's these rapid changes happening throughout history, and we dig into this in the book, that people who are so close to it and so much have their routine actually can't see it and actually can't realize that these things are going on.
00:35:57.000But then those of us who have been tracking it on a daily basis, by the way, not just starting in 2020 or 2021 with what they've done to the J Sixers or what they've done to Doug Mackey, but even going all the way back to 2017 and some of the stuff that we don't even talk about anymore, Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, the list goes on to General Flynn.
00:36:19.000Obviously, there's a movie out about that.
00:36:21.000So the list goes on, but this has been happening since the very beginning of the Trump era.
00:36:27.000And this idea, and by the way, many of the names like Andrew Weissman, who I guess we didn't play his clip, but we've been playing his clip all week on the other show, that this guy who said he had a huge man cross on Juan Rashon was intrinsically linked.
00:36:39.000He was the guy who ran the Mueller investigation to begin with.
00:36:42.000So there's been this cabal of people who've been attempting the detrumpification of America literally since the election was called on the night of, what was it, November 8th, 2016.
00:36:55.000And so for those folks that are in our orbit, those folks that are in politics, those folks that are consultants, it's just you guys haven't even been on the playing field.
00:37:04.000You haven't even been paying attention.
00:37:06.000You want to run around and you've got so many of these Republicans and everybody knows them.
00:37:10.000They want to talk about, oh, the war in the Middle East and whichever war of the week it is in the Middle East.
00:37:15.000Or they want to talk so much about the insolvable borders of Ukraine.
00:37:20.000Or they want to talk about, oh, such and such thing is going on and we need to defend the natives of East Timor.
00:37:38.000Or, oh, Jack's just trying to get clicks.
00:37:40.000Charlie's just trying to get more podcast downloads, whatever it is.
00:37:44.000But at the end of the day, what happened here, Charlie, is that those of us that have actually been ringing the bell and sounding the alarm were just proven completely right and just given verifiable proof that, yes, we are living through the era of a regime.
00:38:01.000And we are living through an era of a regime, an oligarchy, whatever you want to call it, that has decided to completely throw our republic out the window.
00:38:09.000And for those of the people who are saying we shouldn't fight back and we shouldn't use reciprocity and we shouldn't be like them and we shouldn't lower ourselves to their level, we have to stick by our principles.
00:38:22.000And if anything, you've actually kind of been aiding and abetting those of us that have actually been trying to take the fight to the enemy this entire time.
00:39:20.000This is not Haiti, where you can just displace the will of the sovereign.
00:39:24.000You can just kind of come in and say, well, there's a plane waiting for you and we can get you to the Central African Republic or else we're going to take over the country.
00:39:31.000The same playbook that the CIA has done in other countries, they're trying to do here.
00:39:36.000And Andrew, I think this is very important that somebody asked me, they called me, they said, Charlie, is this going to be a positive or negative?
00:39:46.000This could end up being a massive positive if we stay peaceful, we stay restrained, we resist the temptation from feds trying to make us be violent and all that nonsense.
00:39:57.000And instead, we stay focused on action.
00:41:05.000But I'm saying this stuff matters because we've been blown away just how few people have a plan to vote in this election, even if they're sympathetic to Donald Trump.
00:41:55.000And that stuff, on top of everything, on top of the grocery bills, on top of the gas bills, on top of the fact you can't afford a home, all of that stuff is going to add up.
00:42:04.000And it is going to create a momentum that we have never seen in this movement.
00:42:51.000But that's why wearing this hat in public, that's why speaking your mind in public is so important right now because there's so much meat on the bone.
00:42:58.000So many people are not registered to vote yet.
00:43:13.000Well, I'm just, I want to be even more emphatic.
00:43:16.000This, it is basically a guarantee the loser of this fall's election will have a number of supporters who supported them, said they liked them, but just didn't vote.
00:43:27.000And the number of those people will be greater than the amount they lose this election by.
00:43:31.000This will be the case for either Trump or Biden.
00:43:35.000I think I would rather have it be Biden, who that applies to, who has, he could have made it if his supporters turned out, but they just didn't.
00:43:43.000But instead, like we, you see this all the time.
00:43:45.000You'll see these people who will say, I like Trump, but I'm not going to bother voting because they're just going to rig it.
00:43:51.000Those are people who want to psychologically, they've psychologically already lost.
00:43:55.000They think that they can somehow win by not bothering to try.
00:43:59.000And by not bothering to try, this shows that they aren't letting the regime control them or emotionally manipulate them.
00:44:18.000Why put everything at risk when they can just rig the whole thing anyway?
00:44:21.000They did this because they think they can lose.
00:44:23.000They think throwing Trump in jail will somehow help them this fall.
00:44:27.000And it is our job to make sure that they are incorrect, that this backfires, that this blows up in their face.
00:44:33.000But you only do that by actually going out to vote and making sure the people you know vote, and making sure the ones who are waffling and on the fence and indecisive or just don't they aren't good at following through on things by making sure that they vote, make sure that they actually become a piece of paper that goes into the box and counts for one point in the giant high score battle that is a United States election.
00:44:59.000Well said and look, we're about to re-welcome REAL America's Voice here.
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00:45:13.000They are, they are taking your country from you, and they already have.
00:45:17.000And when you see Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts, that is a gut punch to the Republic, a gut punch to you, to our founding fathers, to the sacrifices that many of you have given to this country.
00:47:02.000Today, when I was watching Donald Trump's face as the verdict was read and I was watching as the jury filed out in front of him, I was struck by how not a single one of them from my vantage point looked at his face.
00:47:16.000They either looked straight ahead or they looked down as they passed by him.
00:47:20.000I never saw a juror look directly in his eyes.
00:47:25.000And you have to imagine now what those jurors have to wonder what they must be feeling.
00:47:30.000The weight of getting up and knowing that you have to make this decision alone, how heavy that must have been to get out of bed and to understand that you, a decision that you make could change the course of American history.
00:47:41.000Who knows how it's going to affect the election, but a decision you make will have some effect.
00:47:48.000Direct election interference is the effect that it does have.
00:47:53.000And so today, as we say, this was an attempted judicial and legal assassination.
00:48:00.000Some of you in the audience remember where you were when you heard the news that they killed JFK.
00:48:19.000The crime is that Donald Trump is a class traitor.
00:48:23.000Donald Trump is a billionaire who did not play ball.
00:48:26.000He's a billionaire that did not go along with the neoliberal agenda, who defected from ways that what he was supposed to do and instead went to go fight for the everyday American.
00:48:37.000I want to play another piece of tape here, but first I want to throw it back to Jack before I do.
00:48:41.000In the audience, you guys can email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:48:45.000And we want to hear from you guys directly because the audience is fired up and you should be.
00:48:51.000Jack, what is the true crime that Donald Trump committed?
00:48:57.000Donald Trump is a class traitor, and Donald Trump has decided to challenge the bipartisan uniparty kingdom of Washington, D.C., and they want to put him on show trial, and they want him dead because of it.
00:49:11.000I'd like to, I'll paraphrase Dave Chappelle, what he said on SNL, because I think it really puts it best.
00:49:19.000What Donald Trump did, that's his greatest and most unforgivable sin to the ruling class in this country, is that he left the ruling class and he got up on a stage and he got up in front of a microphone and he went to the regular people of America, the people of Middle America, the people of the South, the people who are not the bi-coastal elite, and he said to them, you know something?
00:49:45.000Every single thing you think that's rigged about our system is exactly correct.
00:50:23.000He goes after the Bushes and then he goes after the Clintons.
00:50:26.000And it's to go beyond surface level and it's beyond the scope of what we're talking about tonight.
00:50:30.000But you have to understand the power infrastructure that he took on in this country that's represented the Bushes and the oil money and the military industrial complex, the Clintons and their New York finance and the Northeastern, the old money, the blue blood money.
00:50:50.000He took on all of that and all of those systems and he showed he could win.
00:50:56.000And that's why, by the way, and just before we go to the next clip, I think it's very, it bears a lot of importance.
00:51:01.000This, I think it was a PBS Marist poll that came out last, well, it came out today, but it was taken last week.
00:51:08.000And it said 67% of voters say a guilty verdict in this case would not affect their vote, with 15% of respondents saying they would even be more likely to vote for Trump if he's convicted.
00:51:24.000So you've got a lot of, you've got a real situation here where you can see it's galvanizing support among a certain amount of people.
00:51:31.000And for another amount of people, it isn't really having any net effect on the election to begin with.
00:51:36.000And that's because, Charlie, quite frankly, I think going into this, people assumed Trump would be found guilty for different reasons, right?
00:51:43.000The liberals assumed he'd be found guilty because they always think he's guilty.
00:51:47.000And conservatives saw it as the show trial.
00:51:49.000You're not going to see a big difference.
00:53:25.000So I don't care how many ads the Biden team runs.
00:53:29.000They have trying to convince the rest of us that the things aren't as bad as we know they are because we're feeling in our pocketbooks.
00:53:37.000When you have to, if you're a Democrat and you have to go to your base this hard, you are really on the edge of collapse.
00:53:46.000Fewer, a comparable deal would be if a Republican had to try to shore up West Virginia.
00:53:51.000And I think what you're going to see in the next few months is a, and that really worries me, frankly, that you're going to see a desperation when they come to realize nothing they're doing is going to work.
00:54:05.000And they're confronted with the likelihood that Trump's not just going to win.
00:55:24.000Jack Posobiec announced on this show, he max donated.
00:55:28.000And then after this list that you just read, Tristan Tate has now announced that he has donated $200,000 to the campaign and breaking right here on this show, Turning Point Actions Ballot Chase Initiative.
00:55:44.000And remind you, we are working directly in coordination with the Trump campaign.
00:56:03.000Three states, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, we're hiring hundreds of full-time staff chasing tons and tons of ballots, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands in those states could be determined.
00:56:16.000We have today, after the verdict, over a million dollars raised.
00:56:21.000Charlie, this is definitely your wheelhouse here.
00:56:28.000I mean, I venture to guess you've never had it like at least this easy, this direct, this unsolicited at turning point in the history of the organization.
00:56:38.000No, and it's people that the incoming is absolutely unbelievable of people that are traditionally center-right moderate donors asking, where do I donate?
00:57:35.000Show up at our turning point action event because Donald Trump, it's not about Trump.
00:57:39.000He is the champion of our movement, our populist nationalist movement of disparate, different backgrounds, multi-ethnic, multi-generational, to consolidate it together to take back this great country.
00:57:57.000So tpaction.com, that is tpaction.com.
00:57:59.000If you guys want to get tickets to that, get involved in the grassroots.
00:58:07.000And what a message it would send to these people that tried so much to try to quiet you and silence you and shut up Trump to win in November.
00:59:41.000I mean, John Bolton has total contempt for the American people.
00:59:44.000Look, you have to understand: neocons are Trotskyites that want to bring transformational Marxist ideas via missiles and via regime change because they have deeply troubled personal lives.
01:00:19.000I think this is very, very important to go back in history because the Bush junta, the Bush junta, John L. Ellis Bush from George H.W. Bush when he was alive to George W. Bush, they are now working in tandem with the ruling class regime and they are applauding what is happening here.
01:00:35.000It's cut 142 that we had on radio earlier today.
01:00:41.000When Donald Trump did this, he went from a laughingstock to kind of like a guy leading in the polls to all of a sudden an existential threat to the status quo of the kingdom of Washington, D.C.
01:00:55.000This was the clip that changed everything.
01:00:57.000It happened in South Carolina, play cut 142.
01:01:01.000Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake.
01:01:49.000This was the original sin of Donald Trump, not him running.
01:01:54.000As soon as he went after the Bush family and humiliated them and called out the neo-colonialist internationalist project of invade the world, invite the world, Donald Trump went from a comedy to a threat.
01:02:07.000And today is just yet another chapter in their attempted eradication.
01:02:12.000Liz Cheney, January 6th committee, George W. Bush with all of his cronies, John Bolton, his crime is disagreeing with them and calling out their foreign policy war crimes.
01:02:23.000Yeah, I mean, it really was a before and after moment.
01:02:26.000There was dogma within the conservative side of the aisle to defend our actions in Iraq until he went on that stage and said the unsayable.
01:02:37.000And yeah, I mean, I think he's had a target on his back ever since.
01:02:39.000People need to understand how much money is going through the military-industrial complex.
01:03:31.000You know, he's sounding the alarm that we can't even keep up with it with the demand that's going out the door.
01:03:37.000All this says is that the supply and demand will continue funneling money into the pockets of the oligarchy that is desperate for more war.
01:03:49.000Yes, and I want to throw it to Jack really quick, but this is very important that, again, the high crime you can commit against the ruling class is challenge their war crimes.
01:03:59.000And today, their conviction, why are they so afraid that Trump might not be president?
01:04:21.000Also, the fact that the Supreme Court's immunity ruling is coming down pretty soon that we hear.
01:04:25.000Just very interesting timing all around.
01:04:27.000Story that we shouldn't overlook, and the fact that we're talking about the very subject is that even the New York Times reported this morning that the Biden administration has now authorized Ukraine to use American weapons to conduct strikes on the territory of Russia.
01:04:45.000So that doesn't mean these areas that they're currently fighting over.
01:04:49.000It doesn't mean areas where they're, you know, where they have this dispute over, you know, is it annexed?
01:04:57.000But Russia proper will now be attacked by U.S. missiles, potentially U.S. drones, other material that the United States has supplied.
01:05:09.000And they specifically have been talking about these early warning radars.
01:05:12.000They're going to be attacking Russia proper.
01:05:14.000So the question is: how is the Kremlin going to respond to something like that?
01:05:19.000They're bringing us to brinksmanship right now, today, and potentially being willing to actually escalate this proxy war that we're in into an actual hot war, all with the reason being that they know Donald Trump is coming back and they don't, they desperately don't want to stop what Andrew was just saying, the gravy train that they have going on.
01:05:41.000Possibly, they would be willing to actually even start a wider war, start a wider war with Russia, so that if Trump comes in, that suddenly then if he's calling for peace and calling for an end to the conflict, they'll say, oh, he's a traitor.
01:06:15.000We essentially, look, Joe Biden isn't actually running our government.
01:06:19.000Our government, Joe Biden, is the CEO, the docile, weak, effect, overaged CEO of an organization that's being completely run by the dependos in the HR department.
01:07:06.000Beating that biology is one way of putting it.
01:07:09.000You could also say it's beating beating, if you catch my pun there.
01:07:14.000Yeah, so normally boobs is a popular search term on Google.
01:07:18.000People like to look up chesticles on the internet.
01:07:21.000And so you can see if you look at the chart on the screen, the red line is boobs, popular search term, rises during the day, falls during the evening.
01:07:32.000And so it had a pretty good day on the 29th and early this morning.
01:07:37.000But today, today, donate to Trump rocketed past this extremely popular search term.
01:07:43.000More than, looks like it about tripled it in popularity at its peak.
01:08:20.000It is going to matter more than ever what we do with our agency, how we act, and what, honestly, what we're able to, the difference we're able to make in the states we live in.
01:08:51.000It was egregious use of the criminal justice system.
01:08:53.000And I mean, I'm hearing people say, I had no intention of voting for Donald Trump, and now I am.
01:08:58.000And then if you ask the Trump campaign what's happening, they literally broke their online donation portal because people were rushing to the internet to give them money in the minutes after the verdict.
01:09:07.000So I think there's a real chance here it's going to massively backfire on the Democrats and help Donald Trump.
01:09:15.000I want to read this email that we received from an immigrant from Eastern Europe.
01:09:20.000As a young child, just six years old, I vividly remember the joy and love my parents expressed about living in America.
01:09:25.000Remember the pride we took in becoming an American citizen.
01:09:27.000I remember the day I signed my name on the papers.
01:09:29.000America was a beacon and was so good to us, a hope and example of the rest of the world.
01:09:33.000Maybe when you're born here, you take it for granted, but when you work so hard through the legal system for a visa, a green card, and eventually citizenship, it's something you don't forget.
01:09:40.000You treasure it and it's deeply personal.
01:09:42.000So what does a day like this feel like?
01:09:47.000The land that you love, with all that's in you, it hurts so much more.
01:09:50.000This is bigger than politics and presidents.
01:09:53.000It means the land you love is no longer the refuge from the land that you left.
01:09:57.000When you quite literally leave everything behind except a suitcase because you believe that America would never fall the levels of your former home did, it's soul-crushing.
01:11:00.000If the National Review is any indication, Rich Lowry, who is the editor of the National Review, famous anti-Trump, Never Trump website, they famously had that one cover with all the names of conservative influencers that some people on this show will never forgive or forget in 2016.
01:11:23.000He's got it up on the top of the website.
01:11:29.000And it's basically saying this trial was rigged from start to finish and it was rigged to rig an election, all by Rich Lowry.
01:11:39.000This is, to put it mildly, you don't see pro-Trump anything on this website.
01:11:45.000Even the National Review, who are the most moderate of voices, and they like to consider themselves the smart kids, the cool kids, and immune from the MAGA cult, if you will, they think this is a travesty of justice.
01:12:02.000So I think when we talk about how this is uniting the right, you've got the Nikki Haley wing that is uniting with the far-right MAGA, whatever you want to call them, the MAGA extremists.
01:12:15.000Obviously, I use those terms in jest, but that's what's happening right now.
01:12:19.000Everybody's on the same page except for like Megan McCain, Megan McCain and John Bolton.
01:16:34.000I actually think it's going to be very positive.
01:16:36.000I think people see what a kangaroo court this is and what a show trial this is.
01:16:41.000So I expect very good things out of our audience and our people.
01:16:44.000And I think it's tonight, immerse yourself in Michael Cohen, you know, taking a victory lap on MSNBC and being held up as an American hero.
01:16:53.000And you should embrace that and immerse yourself in it.
01:16:56.000And then let's go to work tomorrow morning.
01:16:59.000Going to work is the most important thing and understanding why they hate him.
01:17:10.000Donald Trump is an ideological trader because he challenged, as you would say, the easy money regime, the internationalist adventurous wards.
01:17:18.000So, Steve, what is Donald Trump's actual crime here?
01:17:23.000No, he's a class trader of the neoliberal neocons and the progressive left, the globalist in New York City and Manhattan, that he went in first as a guy from Queens and upended the apple cart about how he actually get buildings made.
01:17:37.000And then as a media figure and a guy who came back from some pretty tough times in the real estate market.
01:18:32.000If we keep grinding and grinding and grinding, they can't beat us.
01:18:36.000And right now, you see, I think the lawyer just had on is terrific.
01:18:40.000They're going to try to throw Trump in jail for a couple of years.
01:18:43.000They obviously said the sentencing for right before the Republican Convention.
01:18:47.000You can already see the John Boltons of the world and a lot of the donors and a lot of the Reiners.
01:18:53.000They're trying to force the big event here is going to be trying to force Nikki Haley on the ticket as his prime minister and saying they're going to need the stability of Nikki Haley.
01:19:05.000And tomorrow morning, I think people got to be very focused and just grind this.
01:19:09.000This is going to be voter registration.
01:19:11.000This is going to be all the ballot chasing you're talking about, Charlie, all the get out the vote, people signing up as election judges, election officials.
01:19:23.000But you look at the polls, I think more of the nation is going to come to our side, but you have to be a force multiplier to explain exactly what went on here and why they need to take Trump down.
01:19:34.000I actually think it's a very sad day for America.
01:19:37.000But in one regard, it's a very good day.
01:19:45.000It's either our way to save this constitutional republic and hand on to future generations what was bequeathed to us, or are you going to live in a neo-Marxist, Stalinist type of country?
01:19:55.000You see how they roll, and it can't be clearer.
01:19:58.000So I think in regards, it's actually good because it clarifies.
01:20:24.000You know, when we put together this book on a communist revolution, people said, Why are you putting together something like this?
01:20:31.000And I said, Because that's what we're living through.
01:20:33.000And there were times where people, you know, even pushed back on that.
01:20:36.000And then all of a sudden, I've experienced this.
01:20:39.000Charlie's experienced this so far in the last 24 hours or so.
01:20:42.000And I wanted to see if you'd experienced this as well.
01:20:45.000That a lot of the GOP consultant class types and the fundraiser types and the Hill apparatchic types are texting me saying, Oh my gosh, I couldn't believe that this happened.
01:21:11.000This is one of the, when you control opposition, you don't have to be down in the trenches.
01:21:17.000Anybody that spent a second on this knew this day was coming.
01:21:20.000And they knew there were going to be 34 charges and they knew exactly how they're going to spend it.
01:21:24.000They knew how Richard Mehta was going to do it.
01:21:26.000They knew how Andrew Weissman was going to do it.
01:21:28.000They knew how Tish James was going to do it.
01:21:30.000All the way from Jamie Raskin to Arizona to Michigan to Georgia to what's happening in South Florida to what's happening on the Supreme Court now.
01:21:38.000If you're in this fight, it's very obvious what happened.
01:21:42.000It's also obvious how we get out of here.
01:21:44.000The people that text you today, I can't believe this happened, they don't matter.
01:21:48.000All they are is a bunch of hangers on.
01:22:00.000All they're going to do now is run around and whine and cry and say, You need the Nikki Haleys where we don't need any of those people.
01:22:07.000They're not going to have an option not to vote for Trump because they're not going to vote for to vote for the other side means they wouldn't get a job at all.
01:22:14.000If the Republican Party listens up here, we got a way to victory.
01:22:34.000Because I'm going to tell you, their pressure to basically detrumpify the second term to get more consultants around him, to get more pollsters around him, to let the McCarthys come back and to get Nikki Haley on the ticket as prime minister is going to be overwhelming.
01:22:49.000That's why I think the People's Convention next week, it couldn't be, it will be historic just given the timing because there's going to be a ton of throwdowns there.
01:22:58.000Right now, we've got to fight against the neoliberal neocons as we also have to go against these globalist elitists that are trying to steal our country.
01:25:18.000What you guys have been doing at Turning Point USA.
01:25:21.000And I hope we hash this out next week at the People's Convention.
01:25:24.000That's why I think it's so timely in the workshops of final.
01:25:27.000It is now whoever works the hardest, whoever is the most focused, whoever is relentless and will not give up is who's going to win in November.
01:25:36.000And right now, I think we have the passion of people.
01:25:39.000I know my phone's blowing from people that want to volunteer, that people want to get to work.
01:25:46.000Elbow grease and manpower and spirit is going to win it.
01:25:49.000So I think we just get to channel all that energy, channel all that anxiety, channel all that despair, and just channel it into work, work, work.
01:25:58.000If we don't quit, we use our agency and we're action, action, action.
01:26:05.000This is an unusual question, but I think it's important.
01:26:08.000I think this will be a net positive if we allow it to be one.
01:26:11.000What are major errors that could be done?
01:26:14.000The uniparty trying to weaken our movement, infiltration?
01:26:17.000Give us a threat analysis here of things we should be looking out on the horizon of how this could fumble this, because this very well is trending as if it's going to be a positive.
01:27:38.000The timing of that from them was impeccable.
01:27:41.000Also, did they in action history look?
01:27:43.000What they have six or seven bayonaires are now signing up.
01:27:46.000All these bayonets are all of a sudden in love with Trump.
01:27:48.000Well, what they're really in love with, they're really going to in love with getting a neoliberal neocon on the ticket as his VP, saying you need to do that to bring people together.
01:27:57.000And that is, and she is going to try to be the prime minister of the second term.
01:28:02.000So we have to be on guard with that and say that's not going to happen.
01:28:15.000And just channel your energy and don't chase rabbits.
01:28:18.000Right now, we need maniacal focus, and that focus is on blocking and tackling.
01:28:23.000No 30-second spot, no TV buy, no magical kind of internet apparatus or internet content is going to, no means, right, are going to change this.
01:28:36.000This is going to get at your base and also bring over those people that right now are just going through their own beginning of their great awakening.
01:28:43.000And that is nothing but old-fashioned get out the vote, chase ballots, make sure we have election officials there, get in everybody's face about these valent ballots, make sure everybody's on top of it, and the lawyers get lawyers signed up.
01:29:09.000What we need now is good, old-fashioned work.
01:29:11.000If we do not quit and we execute on that and we can execute on it, we're going to win and we're going to win big.
01:29:19.000Steve, thank you for, I know you got to run here and you got a big show tomorrow on War Room.
01:29:24.000And we're going to be doing this People's Convention here.
01:29:26.000And it requires public displays of support and using our agency.
01:29:31.000This is one of the most important things happening in the country right now.
01:29:34.000And that's why we're rallying in downtown Detroit.
01:29:37.000And Steve, we want Detroit to be Bronx 2.0, where we have a ton of blacks and Hispanics that are coming to the event, black patriots and black Americans that are coming.
01:30:23.000No, I want to just mention the springboard.
01:30:27.000Steve said it's going to be a springboard.
01:30:29.000You know, yeah, there's going to be A-plus list speakers there, right?
01:30:33.000You're going to have all the biggest names in the movement, but people are going to be really blown away if you go to this event that there are going to be massive coalition buildings, volunteer opportunities, precinct strategy.
01:30:45.000You're going to have a chance to get plugged in there.
01:30:49.000If you live in the territories where we're chasing ballots in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona, you could have a full-time job saving the Republic.
01:30:58.000So get off the couch, get to Detroit, especially if you live in that blue wall.
01:31:05.000There's going to be action, Everything.
01:31:09.000Charlie, I've never seen an event from Turning Point, whether that's USA or Turning Point Action, where so much time has been devoted to the breakout sessions.
01:32:06.000Deejo, President Donald J. Trump, Charlie Trump, Donald Trump Jr., The Vote Run Swamp, Governor Christine New, Dr. Benny Carson, Joseph Gang, Steve Bennett, Team DeSones, Ronald Trump, Senator Rick Scott, Kimberly Ginfloy, Congressman Matt Gates, Benny Johnson, Jack Masoka, Louise Oak, Congressman Elon Trump, Brandon Tatum, and more.
01:32:33.000June 14th through 16th, 2024 is our final battle in Detroit, Michigan.
01:32:39.000The great silent majority is rising like never before.
01:33:20.000I think it will be a great opportunity for, if there's coverage of it, for the press, for the Democratic Party for that matter, to look, and they'll turn to each other and think, did we screw this one up, guys?
01:33:40.000I think the reaction today is very telling.
01:33:43.000We've now, if people haven't seen it, Elon Musk is tweeting about this and how ominous this is.
01:33:50.000Bill Ackman, a lot of these Silicon Valley donor figures who've been warming up to Trump this cycle compared to past cycles, they're very strongly on his side today.
01:34:02.000And I think we're going to see that energy grow.
01:34:05.000There's more and more energy attaching to this as it goes on.
01:34:09.000And it's like Biden and the Democrats, they keep digging themselves deeper because they're just shocked the tactics they've relied on are not working anymore.
01:34:17.000Their ability to delegitimize people by using the system against them is breaking down.
01:34:22.000Instead, they are delegitimizing the system itself.
01:34:26.000As we've said a few times, Donald Trump wasn't convicted today.
01:34:30.000It was really the New York justice system that was convicted.
01:34:33.000And I think it'll be interesting to see, you know, there's more that Republicans can do in response to this.
01:34:40.000And I had this thought after they broke up, you know, after that civil conviction against Trump on bizarre charges, which a ton of businessmen were saying, this is nonsense.
01:34:49.000And you even had New York trying to reassure businesses, please don't flee our state.
01:34:56.000Well, now we see this with their criminal system.
01:34:59.000So what if Republican states just started coming out and saying, actually, New York verdicts, we don't respect New York court decisions in this state because they are extra constitutional.
01:35:13.000And an interesting way that might come into play, by the way, Florida doesn't allow convicted felons to vote right now.
01:35:21.000So there might be a twist where they'll try to say that Donald Trump can't vote for himself.
01:35:26.000It could be interesting for Florida to come in and say, actually, at least in this case, we don't consider New York's felony conviction to be valid.
01:35:33.000Blake, speaking of Florida, Ron DeSantis tweeted something I think that was pretty amazing.
01:35:41.000It's longer, but it's like so pitch perfect.
01:35:43.0005 million views, 111 likes, 111,000 likes.
01:35:48.000Says today's verdict represents the culmination of a legal process that has been bent to the political will of the actors involved.
01:35:55.000A leftist prosecutor, a partisan judge, and a jury reflective of one of the most liberal enclaves in America, all in an effort to get Donald Trump.
01:36:03.000That this case involving alleged misdemeanor business records violations from nearly a decade ago was even brought is a testament to the political debasement of the justice system in places like New York City.
01:36:16.000This is especially true considering this same district attorney routinely excuses criminal conduct in a way that has endangered law-abiding citizens in his jurisdiction.
01:36:26.000It is often said that no one is above the law, but it is also true that no one is below the law.
01:36:31.000If the defendant were not Donald Trump, this case would have never been brought.
01:36:35.000The judge would have never issued similar rulings, and the jury would have never returned a guilty verdict.
01:36:40.000In America, the rule of law should be applied in a dispassionate, even-handed manner, not become captive to the political agenda of some kangaroo court.
01:36:48.000That's Ron DeSantis, formerly bitter enemy of Donald Trump, with one of the most viral tweets on social media today defending the president.
01:37:00.000Can I just say this is what he should have tweeted when the charges were dropped in the first place?
01:37:08.000This was a very separate, very different tune than we're hearing from the Gov than when the charges were put out.
01:37:16.000He made a crack mocking Trump about Jeremy Daniels when it happened.
01:37:19.000And I think that was an inflection point in the campaign in the primary where people all of a sudden were saying, wait a minute, it seems like you're just not doing the things that we thought you were going to be doing.
01:37:31.000So look, he's come around to seeing things the right way.
01:37:35.000I wish he'd been there back when it first happened.
01:38:34.000I had a conversation with Mike Davis, attorney Mike Davis, just off air today, just kind of called him in between hits, in between shows.
01:38:43.000And Davis has this thing called the dead chicken theory, which he says that he got from Clarence Thomas.
01:38:50.000And the dead chicken theory is interesting.
01:38:52.000So he says Clarence Thomas told him once when he was working for him that the dead chicken theory goes like this, that when you're training farm dogs to protect chickens now early on, by the way, this story totally takes on a totally new vein because of the Nikki or Nikki, Christy Noam situation.
01:39:13.000But so when you're training farm dogs, one of the things you're supposed to do is when they accidentally kill a chicken, you then take that chicken's carcass and wrap it around their necks so that the chicken's body actually rots physically and literally rots around their necks.
01:39:29.000And eventually over time, once you do that a few times, they lose the taste for chicken and then they eventually go into protecting chicken.
01:39:37.000And basically what he says, that's what we need to do to the left.
01:39:42.000And when it comes to lawfare and when it comes to the stuff that they're doing to Trump and when it comes to everything that they've done to us, to the J Sixers, to Doug Mackey, Ricky Vaughan, to all of this.
01:39:53.000If there is no reciprocity, then they will continue to do these things.
01:40:01.000They will find anything they can on any of us.
01:41:07.000So first of all, yeah, 34 charges, they're all essentially the same thing.
01:41:11.000If you read the indictment, they're all for alleged falsification of records, and they're just 34 different total instances of it.
01:41:20.000So it's not as surprising to me that they would just go through the whole thing.
01:41:24.000It is the sort of thing where you basically either go for all of it or none of it.
01:41:28.000But I do think this gets underplayed too much.
01:41:31.000I think people have fixated too much on the events of the trial and they haven't taken the big picture, which is this case is insane.
01:41:38.000So what Trump was actually convicted of, and they would try to mess this up and obscure it in a lot of ways, but the specific legal attack on Trump was they said Donald Trump falsified business records in order to, and then there was an intermediary crime in order to do this New York state law.
01:42:00.000It's New York Section 17152, conspiracy to promote or prevent election, which is any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means shall be guilty to a misdemeanor.
01:42:21.000And so they did that where they had, they're like, he obscured his, he falsified his records to commit a conspiracy to illegally promote his own election by fill in the blank.
01:42:38.000So the prosecutor came out and they basically said, you know, you could just imagine whatever you want.
01:42:43.000Maybe he was covering up his taxes and that's a crime.
01:42:47.000Or maybe he was covering up some campaign finance violation, including a federal one.
01:42:55.000And that was where the thing came in that it didn't have to be unanimous.
01:42:58.000The prosecution came out and said, you don't have to pick any specific crime that Donald Trump supposedly committed.
01:43:04.000And by the way, we're not charging him with any of these, but as long as you think he was probably doing some sort of crime, you can say that he falsified the records to cover this up.
01:43:14.000And this is really important because the entire case is built on this.
01:43:17.000Because originally, falsification of records by itself is a misdemeanor.
01:43:22.000It is a two-year statute of limitations, and all this stuff is from 2016.
01:43:26.000So the only way they could charge him with this in 2023 was they had to make it a felony to make it a felony.
01:43:33.000They had to say he was doing this to cover up a crime, another crime that was a felony.
01:43:38.000But we don't have any evidence to prosecute any of these.
01:43:40.000So we're just going to say, come up with one.
01:43:44.000And one of their arguments was he was breaking federal campaign finance law, which New York didn't charge him with.
01:43:52.000The federal government didn't charge him with it.
01:43:54.000The federal government didn't even fine him for it.
01:43:57.000And then while they're making all of these prejudicial statements against him, what the judge allows him to do is he allows the prosecution to come out and sort of give arguments like, you know, maybe this decided the 2016 election that he did this, which doesn't have any bearing on anything he supposedly did that was criminal, but the judge allowed him to say that.
01:44:17.000The judge didn't allow any, you know, an FEC commissioner to come in and say this didn't violate the law.
01:44:24.000Their crime connection doesn't work here.
01:44:30.000This law that they're supposedly is conspiring to break, the conspiracy to promote or prevent election, it's basically never brought against anyone else in New York, even though New York has more than its share of shady electoral behavior.
01:44:42.000It's New York, it's local politics in a big city.
01:44:46.000They dug it up because they wanted to have a case against Trump and they came up with the most convoluted theory they possibly could to justify going way past the statute of limitations.
01:44:57.000And then they brought it in Manhattan because it's a 90% Democrat jurisdiction and they could get the most liberal jury imaginable.
01:45:05.000And then they blizzed them with 55 pages of jury instructions, which under New York law, you're not allowed to have a printed copy of because some reason.
01:45:16.000And you don't have a transcript of any of the jury testimony.
01:45:19.000You have to ask them to read it to you for some reason.
01:45:23.000So they picked our dumbest, most corrupt state with the dumbest, most corrupt laws, came up with a case they would never bring against anyone else and have never brought against anyone else.
01:45:33.000And then they dumped it on Donald Trump and they got a conviction.
01:46:20.000Which, by the way, you know, people need to remember if you go back to the Democracy Playbook and the Brookings Institute and everyone's favorite Time magazine article, which was published right after 2021 about the secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.
01:46:38.000Remember, they fortified the 2020 election.
01:46:41.000What name from the Transition Integrity Project was at the center of all of these things was Norm Eisen.
01:46:49.000Norm Eisen and Andrew Weissman are kind of like the brain trust of the left-wing operatives.
01:46:57.000And their names just keep kind of popping up in every single major campaign that you see them doing.
01:47:03.000And so you can just follow these guys and you can see exactly what they're up to.
01:47:08.000They don't really have that many of them.
01:47:10.000And don't tell me that like Alvin Bragg, that absolute idiot, could put something like this together or that anyone in the Biden administration could do it.
01:47:17.000No, it's they've got a couple of these guys and you see them on TV just bragging about it all the time because that's essentially what they are.
01:47:26.000They are the brain trust of the left wing.
01:47:29.000And, you know, look, you know, guys here on the right, you know, we've got like, obviously, the Trump campaign, Trump himself, their family, and then just guys like us.
01:47:39.000This is, look, we also have this amazing movement, though.
01:47:42.000And Andrew, I'm very inspired by the growing enthusiasm that we're seeing on the ground.
01:47:49.000I want to highlight just some of the work that Turning Point Action is doing.
01:47:51.000Noah Formica, who's one of our amazing activists, says, My name is Noah Formica.
01:47:56.000I'm a Gen Z Republican living in Pennsylvania.
01:47:58.000So far this year, I've registered 790 voters.
01:48:01.000My goal is to register 1,000 by the end of the year.
01:48:03.000I'm going to do everything I can to get Donald Trump back in the White House and turn Pennsylvania red.
01:48:07.000And his tweet is doing very, very well.
01:51:25.000Because I've been something I've been meaning to say the entire night that so when all this news broke, it was kind of surreal for me because we'd finished up the afternoon stuff and I had just taken my son and driven home to pick up my six-year-old and he was at a little league game.
01:51:45.000And so 30 May 2024, you're always going to remember where you were when this happened.
01:51:51.000And I was at a little league game with my son and his team and they were doing some other, they were, you know, they're playing, they playing the game.
01:51:58.000And Tanya showed up with her other son a little bit later and she was running an errand.
01:52:04.000And what was so interesting to me was that on my phone, it was lighting up.
01:52:20.000I don't think that most normies even, and I don't say that in a disparaging way.
01:52:24.000I mean, I love the people on the team and everyone at the school, but I just think that for average people that are outside of politics, this trial wasn't something that they were really following front of center because there's been so many Trump trials and so many Trump legal escapades over the last couple of weeks, over the last couple of years at this point, escapades, and really going all the way back to his original divorce with Ivana all the way back in the early 90s.
01:52:52.000And so it's kind of priced in and it's just not something I actually actively started listening after this.
01:52:59.000Not a single person at the game even brought it up once.
01:53:20.000And again, we can afford it, but it's noticeable.
01:53:23.000I mean, when you start to go and you have to feed a family of four and it's $700 for weekly groceries to eat like above average, you know, eat foods that aren't necessarily processed.
01:53:47.000Actually, Jack, you'll remember when I texted you, I was like, dang it, this was my idea.
01:53:52.000So, you know, I think it was Scott Adams said it on his show and tweeted it out, you know, about I was literally just about to send this to you in the chat.
01:54:05.000The best campaign idea that we need, we need Donald Trump going along with like a white woman, a black woman, a Hispanic woman, and like an Asian woman or whatever.
01:54:14.000Like, you know, and going through just a normal grocery store.
01:54:17.000Go like pick Middle American grocery store, urban American grocery store, and just go and try and buy eggs, milk, toilet paper.
01:54:26.000That right there is something that this trial will never reach to.
01:54:33.000I mean, I don't know if we have the clip, Ryan, but like there was a CNN clip where they were going through the polling data and they're just like, nobody cares.
01:54:42.000The only good that this can do is really to galvanize our side to get even more involved, to donate more, to volunteer more, to ballot chase more.
01:54:54.000But like, I'm telling you, the pocketbook issues, time and time again, when they wonder why.
01:55:19.000Why are both of those groups moving in Trump's favor and abandoning the Democrat coalition that got Barack Obama elected in such by huge margins?
01:55:30.000It's because young people cannot afford to buy a home.
01:55:34.000The cost of a home, average home price in America, has doubled since Joe Biden has come into office.
01:56:10.000And Charlie, I'd actually love your input on this.
01:56:13.000If you look across the different cohorts, the one group that Donald Trump is performing worse with than he was in the last election is boomers.
01:56:25.000What gives and how do we fix it is the question.
01:56:29.000Well, what gives is that boomers have actually generally, if you own property, you are substantially wealthier post-COVID.
01:56:37.000Now, that's not to say your purchasing power hasn't gone down, but if you own a home and you started to pay, let's say you started to buy a home in, this is why it's so important.
01:56:49.000It's a generational thing, I understand.
01:57:19.000Their stocks have gone up dramatically.
01:57:21.000They might have a little investment portfolio with Charles Schwab or Fidelity or TV Ameritrade that has gone up dramatically.
01:57:28.000And so the baby boomers, nothing necessarily against them, that's a separate topic for a different time, is they've actually had a financial windfall under Joe Biden.
01:57:38.000Now, some that don't own property are still struggling, own businesses, and your purchasing power of your dollar has deteriorated, but your assets have gone up, so they're not feeling the squeeze.
01:58:20.000And Donald Trump is a vessel for that.
01:58:23.000Donald Trump is the pressure release valve because his entire candidacy is kind of a rebellion against the status quo.
01:58:29.000And so if you are getting poor because of the status quo, and then you see them indict him, all of a sudden, you want to then repel against the status quo, rebel against the status quo.
01:58:42.000Andrew, you have a question about that.
01:58:43.000Yeah, so my question is, so if all of these currents are working against Joe Biden with everybody except for boomers, and boomers are like slightly weaker, this verdict tonight, if you talk like Main Street America, half the people are checked in, half the people are checked out.
01:59:05.000Does this verdict so great against their idea and their ideal of what America was when they were growing up and through the 80s and the 90s?
01:59:14.000Does this verdict so great against them?
01:59:16.000Is Trump going to see a bounce back with boomers?
01:59:22.000So, look, I don't want to overly generalize.
01:59:24.000I could just say, in my own circle, people that are baby boomers are outraged about this.
01:59:28.000I did an entire program in August of last year live from Vegas, and it was one of our best shows, Andrew, of 2023, one of our best rated shows, where I went through a dialogue, an argument, and not even a debate, an argument I had with one of our turning point USA donors.
01:59:52.000And this guy was a military veteran, a good man, but he saw things differently.
01:59:57.000And he said, he stood up and asked a question because I went through how Donald Trump was almost assuredly going to go to jail and get convicted, and they're going to try to throw him in jail unless he wins.
02:00:06.000And he said, Charlie, I've been around for quite some time.
02:00:09.000There is no way in this country that Donald Trump will ever be convicted by a jury of his peers and he'll never go to jail.
02:00:17.000And I said, I'm sorry, sir, you're wrong.
02:00:19.000I don't know what country you think you're living in.
02:01:09.000I got to re-listen to that episode because, no, because it was part of his essence, it was so no way this, it was almost as if, Charlie, you're telling me that Donald Trump's going to levitate on live television.
02:01:21.000Like, it was just like, there's no way I can see it happening.
02:01:25.000It's like the laws of America, the laws of nature, and nature's God will not allow this to happen.
02:01:30.000And I somewhat sympathize with that because he did fight and serve the country.
02:01:35.000And he is so used to America having a certain behavioral pattern that all of a sudden, and by the way, Dan just messaged me, who is there.
02:02:39.000Donald Trump is the guy who breaks all of the rules.
02:02:43.000One thing I get a kick out of is there was a book that came out, or at least it came out a few years before Trump ran, and the name of the book was called The Party Decides.
02:02:54.000And it's these political scientists, and they're trying to write about how the political process really works within parties.
02:03:01.000And what their thesis was was: the people who really decide who wins a presidential nomination are the party insiders.
02:03:08.000It's who wins the endorsement battle, who wins the funding battle, who wins the most with like the state-level operatives who have a lot of influence.
02:03:16.000And they're the ones who really decide who gets nominated.
02:03:19.000So Mitt Romney was nominated in 2012, not because he had the most organic support among the Republican base, but because he won over Republican decision makers in the party.
02:03:29.000And then Donald Trump shows up in 2016 and just does a total drive-by shooting on this thesis because Donald Trump is hated by the entire party establishment.
02:03:49.000He just steamrolls the whole process, gets the nomination.
02:03:53.000He follows none of the rules for how you're supposed to run for president with consultants, with all these carefully massaged rules about what you should say in public, what your ads should say, how you should message on issues, blows that all away, wings the entire thing, wins the election.
02:04:10.000That is certainly like nothing anyone has done since the modern TV era of politics began.
02:04:16.000And there's really nothing like it from before that era, too.
02:04:20.000The closest you'd get is maybe like William Jennings Bryan, 130 years ago, shows up at the Democrat convention, gives a barn burner of a speech, and they're like, that guy's great.
02:04:32.000And then they nominate him and he gets killed by William McKinley.
02:04:42.000We have never had a major presidential candidate who's running as, you know, a person who's ever, who's been charged with a crime, convicted of a crime.
02:04:52.000They are having to do stuff they have never done before to try to stop him, and they're proving unable to do it.
02:04:59.000The left is, they always would say Trump is a threat to our norms.
02:05:02.000But as we said earlier, the threat to our norms is the Democrats and what they are doing to try to stop Trump.
02:05:08.000They're the ones who are going to say, we're going to do this Latin America style thing where one of the candidates is charged with a crime or convicted of a crime.
02:05:17.000We're going to do all this shady stuff to try to pack the Supreme Court because they're too dangerous to us.
02:05:23.000And there really is, you look back and there's just nothing, there's nothing like it.
02:05:28.000He is, it's a force of nature to behold.
02:05:33.000I want to wrap here, guys, because we all have shows tomorrow and kind of go around the horn.
02:05:37.000But I want to just remind you guys, get your tickets right now to the People's Convention.
02:05:41.000Can you just throw out the People's Convention graphic, please?
02:05:48.000Vivek Ramaswamy, Dr. Ben Carson, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump Jr., Candace Owens, Benny Johnson, Tulsi Gabbard, Byron Donalds, Christine Home, Lara Trump, Nigel Farage, Rick Scott, and more.
02:06:35.000As of today, the MAGA movement is now the 30 May movement.
02:06:42.000Pre-30 May, we were one country, and post-30 May, we are now a new country.
02:06:49.000And the 30 May movement is all about taking whatever words you want to use to describe the circumstances within which we find ourselves now and restoring the American Republic to its former greatness.
02:07:04.000That's what the 30 May movement's all about.
02:07:51.000I think Donald Trump will sink in the polls briefly.
02:07:54.000I think he will come back, and by the time of election day, I think we will see a result where they will think it probably would have been a better idea to not charge him.
02:08:06.000And hey, this actually might be an interesting thing.
02:08:08.000And Andrew, I want everyone to think about this.
02:08:11.000If we want to run against Joe Biden, if we think that Joe Biden is better than Gretchen Whitmer, and I think Gretchen Whitmer would be really tough because I think she's a blue wall-designed candidate, then maybe if Trump takes a little temporary hit in the polls, galvanizes the base, it keeps Biden competitive, and then it allows us to run against actually the candidate that we think is weaker than a hypothetical replacement candidate.
02:09:08.000Ultimately, at the end of the day, he'll go down with a sinking ship because he's a selfish SOB and he's a vile, vile, disgraceful human.
02:09:18.000So, I think he, you know, I think he's got an ego the size of you know, the size of Russia.
02:09:24.000Anyways, here's my final thought, though.
02:09:27.000Um, I, I, I, you know, we talked about it before.
02:09:30.000I'm very curious, and the poll that I'm going to be watching is if this slight weakness that we've seen in boomers, uh, if this if this verdict reverses that trend and shores up boomers with Trump, I think this is such an affront to the mental image, the muscle memory that boomers have when they think about their home country, America.
02:09:51.000I think this grates against the fact that we're not a banana republic, or at least we weren't until May 30th.
02:09:57.000And so, I'm going to be watching that number.
02:09:59.000And I think that this, when we talk about boomerangs, backfires, or whatever, that's what I'm going to say.