The Charlie Kirk Show - Three Doctors Take On Bill Gates, Big Pharma and Destroy the COVID Fear Narrative

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00:00:12.000 Dr. Flavio Catagiani from Brazil, Dr. Pierre Corey, and Dr. Ryan Cole.

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00:01:19.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, backed by Popular Demand, our white coat summit, where we take your questions. 0.82

00:01:26.000 We just have an unfiltered conversation about everything you're not supposed to talk about: medical tyranny, vaccines, individual autonomy, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin.

00:01:36.000 And we have an amazing panel.

00:01:38.000 I will start with someone who's been on our show before, Dr. Pierre Corey.

00:01:40.000 Welcome back.

00:01:41.000 Charlie, good to be here.

00:01:42.000 Dr. Ryan Cole, I've been reading your writings and seeing your speeches for quite some time.

00:01:47.000 Honor to have you.

00:01:48.000 And Dr. Flavio.

00:01:48.000 Great to be here.

00:01:50.000 Yeah.

00:01:50.000 And you could tell us how to pronounce your last name.

00:01:52.000 Yeah, Cade Jani.

00:01:53.000 It's an honor, truly.

00:01:54.000 And I look forward to talking with you about many things.

00:01:57.000 And you're from Brazil, is that right?

00:01:59.000 Terrific.

00:01:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:02:00.000 Well, welcome.

00:02:01.000 I'm so thrilled.

00:02:02.000 So, Dr. Corey, I'll start with you.

00:02:04.000 You know, you were on our program about a month ago.

00:02:07.000 We were talking about a lot of different things.

00:02:09.000 And it seems as if this topic has changed the way the media has changed the way they talk about this topic.

00:02:15.000 And Dr. Wen went on CNN and said the science has changed.

00:02:19.000 Has the science changed, Dr. Corey?

00:02:21.000 Science was always there, Charlie.

00:02:23.000 I mean, I don't know what they're doing.

00:02:26.000 I mean, what specifically do you think has changed in the media?

00:02:30.000 So that I could answer.

00:02:31.000 Because from where I sit, I'm not, you know, I'm seeing a little bit around the mask.

00:02:36.000 So I guess the masks thing is probably the most that's changed.

00:02:39.000 Yeah, I suppose just you have like Nevada lifting their indoor mask mandate, right? 0.67

00:02:44.000 You have certain areas that are backing off a little bit on vaccine mandates, but there definitely is a de-emphasis of media hysteria of the last two weeks, right?

00:02:54.000 Maybe you're maybe you see it differently.

00:02:57.000 And I'm not seeing I'm running fast.

00:02:59.000 No, that's okay.

00:03:00.000 I just, and I'm a media guy, right?

00:03:02.000 So I kind of look at what they're focusing on and not.

00:03:04.000 And when Dr. Wen goes on TV, she says, you know, science has changed.

00:03:09.000 You know, there was a time for lockdowns, and now we know new things.

00:03:14.000 And I'll give you another example that I think is really important: Fauci's been kind of MIA for the last couple of weeks.

00:03:19.000 They've kind of just kind of put him out to pasture.

00:03:21.000 You notice he's not doing those daily news hits.

00:03:23.000 Maybe he's bad for ratings.

00:03:25.000 Do you have any thoughts on this, Dr. Cole?

00:03:27.000 The science hasn't changed.

00:03:27.000 I do, actually.

00:03:29.000 The science has been there all along.

00:03:30.000 Their willingness to admit they were wrong because I think America is waking up, the world is waking up, the narrative cracked.

00:03:38.000 When Omicron started burning through, people were getting, and I don't call them vaccine breakthroughs.

00:03:43.000 I call them failures.

00:03:44.000 The vaccine was a failure all along because it was never preventing really Delta and/or Omicron.

00:03:49.000 So they had no choice but to roll back their thoughts and say, you know what?

00:03:55.000 If history is going to smile on us at all, we better at least start shifting what we're telling to the people, what we're reporting to say, okay, lockdowns didn't work.

00:04:05.000 The Johns Hopkins study.

00:04:07.000 Well, or if you look at, you know, say, for example, you know, on brownstone.org, Paul Alexander has 400 articles that showed how anything and everything we did didn't stop the virus.

00:04:17.000 So they're starting to see, admit to the data.

00:04:22.000 They're starting to look at the data and go, okay.

00:04:24.000 But Ryan, I don't know that they're admitting to it because I did see when the way she words it, it's almost like, you know, we're talking about like admitting they're wrong.

00:04:34.000 It's not really that they're admitting they're wrong.

00:04:36.000 It's they're saying like they were going to do this the whole time.

00:04:39.000 Like now it's the time.

00:04:40.000 Like we were waiting.

00:04:41.000 That's part of the plan.

00:04:42.000 It's part of the plan.

00:04:43.000 That's how I, that's how I heard her.

00:04:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:45.000 I didn't hear any admission of that like mask are actually not working.

00:04:48.000 It was just like, you know, it's time now to relax the restrictions.

00:04:52.000 The next challenge.

00:04:53.000 And, you know, when you bring up when, I stuck together.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:04:58.000 No, I agree.

00:04:59.000 And she's been given such a disproportionate platform for being wrong about everything.

00:05:04.000 How do you see it, Dr. Flavio?

00:05:05.000 Oh, goodness.

00:05:06.000 First of all, I think the story gets harder and harder to admit everything that has been going on, actually.

00:05:15.000 So it's never been about science.

00:05:17.000 So forget the word science for the last two years.

00:05:20.000 Okay.

00:05:21.000 So it's just something that they named as science.

00:05:24.000 Never forget that.

00:05:25.000 Okay.

00:05:26.000 So they're going to try to shape the history.

00:05:29.000 So this is important.

00:05:29.000 Okay.

00:05:30.000 And it's not only an action that occurs in the U.S. Interestingly, the stronger a country is in order to be a purchaser of vaccines and high-cost drugs, the stronger is the war.

00:05:44.000 So I can see that in Brazil, for example, we have the largest single purchaser, which is the national health system.

00:05:51.000 So the war there is very strong as well.

00:05:53.000 And you see a very orchestrated action between different, for example, 90% of the doctors who are trying to belittle us or are trying to suppress the discussion.

00:06:07.000 Everything that tries to suppress the discussion is not actual science, first of all.

00:06:10.000 Action science is the opposite.

00:06:12.000 They're directly or indirectly sponsored by any of these or more than one of these pharmacies.

00:06:19.000 Yes.

00:06:19.000 And the pharmaceutical companies.

00:06:21.000 And you made the great point that, you know, we're almost a pharma-controlled state at this point.

00:06:27.000 I mean, that's, you know, would Flavio, and the thing is, we're not unique, right?

00:06:31.000 So Dr. Caradani just said the biggest single purchaser of pharmaceutical products, vaccines in the world is Brazil, right?

00:06:38.000 It's a large country.

00:06:40.000 They have a national health system.

00:06:41.000 They're the singlest one.

00:06:42.000 So they're probably one of the biggest pharma states because it totally controls the health systems, the doctors.

00:06:48.000 And so, you know, as a colleague, Flavi and I, we've been working together.

00:06:52.000 He's one of our main clinical advisors in the FLCC.

00:06:57.000 When we share our journeys through COVID, they're remarkably similar.

00:07:03.000 I mean, the same hit pieces, the same attacks, the same ostracism, the same all of it.

00:07:08.000 And it's the same denial of science, the same attempts at suppressing, distorting the science, especially around ivermectin and even all the other early treatment drugs.

00:07:17.000 So in Brazil, there's a fact that's happening because of this pharma-controlled state, it is silently changing from presidential to parliamental.

00:07:28.000 So what happened is our president tried to control the influence of the big pharma.

00:07:32.000 What happened is the Supreme Court of Justice prohibited him to decide for the country.

00:07:39.000 And similarly, the Senate and the upper and the lower houses, they started to make investigations over the president's actions by not buying the vaccines right away.

00:07:48.000 They were offered with Terrible contract from Pfizer because he did not sign right away.

00:07:55.000 He was persecuted.

00:07:56.000 And I'm altogether.

00:07:57.000 I'm among the 78 people that were formally accused of crime against humanity, and our names are in IA right now because they were not able to control.

00:08:10.000 So, Dr. Cole, some would say that things are getting better around the world in terms of lower virus rates.

00:08:16.000 Omicron might have had something to do with that.

00:08:19.000 We played around with this idea of it being maybe a white hat kind of creation.

00:08:24.000 I think that's an interesting thing to talk about.

00:08:26.000 We did a pretty good job, I think, last time.

00:08:28.000 But I want to ask: do you think we're out of the woods?

00:08:31.000 Can life return to normal?

00:08:33.000 Or do you think there's another wrinkle left?

00:08:38.000 I think they're going to.

00:08:40.000 Desperation is the last gasp of tyrants.

00:08:43.000 The emergency is over.

00:08:44.000 End of story.

00:08:45.000 The virus is endemic.

00:08:47.000 It goes back and forth between humans, animal species.

00:08:50.000 You can never eradicate a virus that has multiple hosts ever.

00:08:55.000 We're lucky in the sense that it mutated into a very innocuous form.

00:09:01.000 It's a blessing to humanity.

00:09:02.000 It's much milder.

00:09:05.000 This virus will be with us forever.

00:09:07.000 But if we look at the common cold coronaviruses that have been around for a long time, they probably started out more aggressively.

00:09:15.000 All viruses eventually want to coexist and obtain benevolent mutations.

00:09:20.000 So whether this was white hat, whether it was manipulated, the thing to keep in mind is anybody can make a virus anymore.

00:09:27.000 You can make a virus in your garage with a CRISPR, sadly.

00:09:30.000 And so whatever laboratories have bioweapons programs or research programs into gain of function, there are a lot of things that could happen in humanity.

00:09:41.000 I don't want people to be afraid.

00:09:42.000 I would rather people say, look, then let's continue to stop this from happening around the world.

00:09:46.000 I think we're out of the woods with this virus.

00:09:49.000 I mean, Omicron itself is more of a SARS, you know, COVID-22, not COVID-19.

00:09:55.000 It's completely a different virus.

00:09:56.000 This is why the vaccines have failed.

00:09:58.000 It doesn't cover this.

00:10:00.000 I think we're heading in the right direction.

00:10:01.000 The virus will be with us.

00:10:02.000 We always still have to keep that in mind.

00:10:04.000 You're just starting a new fight.

00:10:06.000 New fight is just.

00:10:08.000 I want to ask you about that in a second, Dr. Corey.

00:10:10.000 You know, Ryan's talking about the science of the virus and how it's going to go into the endemic.

00:10:15.000 But, you know, I'm so interested, you know, I want to talk about the positive note, not yet about the U.S., but when you look at the increasing numbers of countries who are like, you know, when did like mask light roll back?

00:10:27.000 You know, like, you don't have to mask when you shower.

00:10:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:31.000 Like, you know, you know, everyone's in the streets cheering, you know.

00:10:34.000 But no, when you look at the number of countries that are full-on dropping vaccine passports, which essentially say no more mandates.

00:10:40.000 You know, and so they're dropping mandates, they're dropping masks, they're dropping social distancing, they're going back to like normal life.

00:10:40.000 Yes.

00:10:46.000 Now, when that comes over to U.S. shores is not clear, right?

00:10:50.000 There are still places that are mandating vaccines.

00:10:53.000 I have someone I know close to my family who's a second-year radiology resident.

00:10:59.000 And we're in February right now.

00:11:01.000 He's a young man.

00:11:02.000 He's healthy.

00:11:02.000 Omicron is waning.

00:11:04.000 And he's been told he has to leave his training program within one week if he does not get the vaccine.

00:11:10.000 And never mind that that shot is more risk than benefit now.

00:11:13.000 Yeah, beyond, I mean, we all know the science.

00:11:15.000 There's no science behind it.

00:11:16.000 Yeah.

00:11:17.000 I want to ask about that, right?

00:11:18.000 So you guys are three doctors.

00:11:20.000 You know, you're really well respected.

00:11:22.000 And to say that, and if I publish that on YouTube, I would get disinformation dings.

00:11:27.000 Oh, of course.

00:11:28.000 And I know that from a communication standpoint.

00:11:28.000 Right.

00:11:32.000 And we really played around with this last time, Dr. Corey, and I was really satisfied with your answers, at least from my perspective.

00:11:38.000 But I'd love both your opinion.

00:11:40.000 If the science is so conclusive, then why is it the people representing science just do the exact opposite, right?

00:11:47.000 And that's where a lot of like normal suburban moms, they're like, there's no way there could be no science behind it, but you're saying that there is. 0.94

00:11:55.000 If you want to know what's going on, follow the money.

00:11:58.000 If you want to know the truth, look at who's being silenced.

00:12:03.000 Immunology, virology, pathology.

00:12:05.000 This is my background.

00:12:06.000 This is what I study.

00:12:08.000 This is what I do.

00:12:11.000 And I listen to...

00:12:13.000 I look at my colleagues that are just bought into the narrative.

00:12:16.000 A lie is a limited idea entertained.

00:12:18.000 And they have these limited ideas and they entertain them.

00:12:21.000 And then the media puts forth that lie.

00:12:23.000 You're allowed to have these limited ideas and that's all you can entertain.

00:12:26.000 That's what a lie is.

00:12:28.000 So I literally look at what's going on as a societal lie.

00:12:32.000 And it is so easy psychologically to manipulate scientists with follow the money.

00:12:39.000 Look at Brazil.

00:12:41.000 Farm a bot.

00:12:42.000 Look at our big journals.

00:12:43.000 Farm a bot, like Dr. Corey talks about.

00:12:45.000 We are in a horrible manipulation situation where true, you know, Galileo was right.

00:12:52.000 It's Room in the Tower.

00:12:53.000 So many.

00:12:54.000 Copernicus was right before him.

00:12:55.000 So so many scientists over the years.

00:12:55.000 Yeah.

00:12:58.000 Heliocentric theory of medicine.

00:12:59.000 It's not that we weren't right.

00:13:01.000 It's just that it was counter narrative to what the bigger entities wanted to accomplish.

00:13:07.000 I suppose the counter argument is like, okay, that was like scholasticism with the Catholic Church.

00:13:11.000 And now this is like scientists that are supposed to.

00:13:14.000 Yeah, they're supposed to be like steeped in the method.

00:13:16.000 This is instead of Deus Machina, this is Deus Vaccina.

00:13:22.000 But I guess it's just for someone who isn't a doctor, I look, and this is something that, you know, we talked about last time, but I want to just dive into this because it's so interesting.

00:13:31.000 We're in quote-unquote modernity, right?

00:13:33.000 Where we have Twitter and we can have FaceTime audio, FaceTime calls with our family members in Sydney when they're locked down, and we're supposed to be advancing, right?

00:13:44.000 That's the promise of the technological elite, right?

00:13:47.000 That somehow we're marching towards some sort of perfection, which we obviously know is a bunch of lies, right?

00:13:52.000 We're going backwards.

00:13:53.000 It's a total regression trend.

00:13:53.000 Yeah, no, of course.

00:13:56.000 But at least to kind of most people, they think there's no way that the scientists would just put aside the scientific method and buy into something that is purely profit or pathological focused.

00:14:07.000 So medical doctors are being trained to be replaced by apps.

00:14:11.000 It's very easy.

00:14:12.000 So dive into that.

00:14:13.000 So you're not allowed to do anything outside the flowchart, okay?

00:14:17.000 The obligatory flowchart.

00:14:18.000 That became obligatory.

00:14:19.000 It didn't used to be.

00:14:20.000 It used to be doctors.

00:14:23.000 Now you cannot evaluate the patient and prescribe according to the patient's peculiarities and the clinical aspects and the severity.

00:14:35.000 You cannot have your own medical judgment anymore.

00:14:37.000 You're not allowed.

00:14:38.000 So it's easy.

00:14:39.000 Just in a couple of years, we're going to all be replaced by apps.

00:14:43.000 That's dogma, though, isn't it?

00:14:44.000 I mean, that's not...

00:14:45.000 This is Dr. Amerling's article.

00:14:47.000 One of our colleagues, he was the former president of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons.

00:14:51.000 There's a fantastic article out there talking about evidence-based medicine.

00:14:55.000 So it's this EVM movement where it's everything is a cookbook and a recipe, And it takes away the individuality of the patient in the doctor-patient relationship.

00:15:04.000 And to Flavio's point, Dr. Flavio is absolutely right.

00:15:07.000 It's here's your algorithm, here is your protocol, and it negates the fact that there are 7 billion different people.

00:15:13.000 Formulaic.

00:15:13.000 They're trying to make it formulaic.

00:15:15.000 So you can just have you walk into a robot box at one of the big pharmacies and it's like put in your symptoms.

00:15:15.000 Formulaic.

00:15:21.000 Here is your drug.

00:15:22.000 That is all you get.

00:15:23.000 And this is very convenient because the pathophysiology behind the COVID and COVID vaccines is so complex and so unique for each person that this evidence is the excessive use, the abuse of the wrong principles of the evidence-based medicine would be very convenient to preclude us from finding correlations with the upcoming risks that we're going to see in the next couple of years.

00:15:49.000 But I mean, if it's evidence-based medicine and you have a country like Israel that is definitely a modern country, not a third world country, and they just announced their fourth booster and their rates go up even further.

00:16:00.000 And I don't want to dwell on this too much, but for just a normal person, I look at that and I say there's no way you can't be bought or corrupt or believing something that is just quite honestly mystical.

00:16:12.000 I mean, it's like at war with the Enlightenment, right?

00:16:17.000 It's not data.

00:16:18.000 It's not science.

00:16:19.000 There's some other force pushing it, right?

00:16:21.000 And so we've talked about that in terms of the pharmaceutical products, or specifically with ivermectin and the pushing of these other products.

00:16:28.000 You know, when you look at the, you know, I've said, you know, last time we were on, I talked about, just look at the history of the pharmaceutical industry.

00:16:34.000 If you look at the history of the vaccine industry, I mean, they've been at this game a long time.

00:16:39.000 I mean, when, you know, there's charts showing these rapidly declining rates of a number of diseases that we began a vaccination.

00:16:48.000 All of those declines were on a particular slope well before the vaccine.

00:16:53.000 Correct.

00:16:53.000 When the vaccine entered, it did not alter the slope.

00:16:55.000 It did not alter the slope.

00:16:56.000 It went down.

00:16:57.000 So it basically showed that many of the childhood vaccines that we're using, it's not from the vaccines.

00:17:02.000 It's from good health, sanitation, sterilization, different wars.

00:17:06.000 And so we've been actually convinced that vaccines have this overwhelming role in protecting health.

00:17:13.000 And it's way, way overstated.

00:17:16.000 And the vaccine industry has inserted a massive schedule of vaccines.

00:17:19.000 And so, I mean, I don't want to go too much into the history, but you have to understand the power and how, you know, and I was having a conversation actually with Del Bigtree yesterday, and he made this really interesting point.

00:17:32.000 If you're a pharmaceutical company, would you rather develop a drug for people who get sick with the disease, or would you rather develop a vaccine for everybody without the disease, right?

00:17:43.000 Which is the bigger market?

00:17:45.000 And so this vaccine industry is as rapacious and as relentless as those that develop the products.

00:17:52.000 And they just don't stop.

00:17:53.000 And they have these mechanisms.

00:17:54.000 So when you ask about how Israel could be embarking on a fourth booster dose, when the data has been showing it's been failing, the most vaccinated country in the world off the charts.

00:18:04.000 And now we're seeing, I think, pretty strong signals of antibody-dependent enhancements because you're seeing deaths rise now to a great extent, right?

00:18:12.000 So those vaccines are now actually showing, and we've always known that the toxicity actually outweighed the efficacy.

00:18:19.000 But now you're seeing not only toxicity from the vaccine, you're seeing it's causing worsening outcomes from the disease.

00:18:26.000 And so when it's terrifying to think that, like I said, that knowing this, knowing that we're using, especially now, the absurdity of using a Wuhan strain vaccine against Omicron when it has negative efficacy against it, and this resident who's about to lose his training spot.

00:18:46.000 I don't even, waking up every day and you see these things so grossly and absurdly divorced from any notion of the science or the data.

00:18:57.000 Yeah, there's so many.

00:18:58.000 I mean, it makes big tobacco look like angels.

00:19:02.000 At least they curbed.

00:19:03.000 They curb fair.

00:19:03.000 Well, at least they curbed obesity, right?

00:19:05.000 Everyone was smoking fat.

00:19:08.000 Smoking is perhaps a protective factor for COVID-19.

00:19:13.000 Yeah.

00:19:13.000 Is that right?

00:19:14.000 Well, nicotine is, and that's what's interesting.

00:19:15.000 Nicotine, yeah.

00:19:16.000 But at least I'm totally open-minded.

00:19:18.000 You could have said French from several people.

00:19:21.000 There was a French study on these showing this.

00:19:23.000 And I think it was retracted for obvious reasons.

00:19:26.000 But our study on live remoteing show the same.

00:19:30.000 No, I believe it.

00:19:31.000 And I mean, outside of the carcinogenins in smoking, it actually could have a lot of health benefits, such as not having the most fattest generation or country ever.

00:19:40.000 Okay, so, but you brought up a point that really moved me last time we talked about how you said this was a trend happening in science before COVID.

00:19:48.000 You tried to convince people of high-dose vitamin C. You couldn't shake people out of it.

00:19:51.000 They didn't want to even talk about it.

00:19:53.000 Dr. Cole, in your experience, do you think that COVID revealed a scientific community that was already kind of in this dogmatic position?

00:20:02.000 Very much so.

00:20:03.000 Very much so, because we, in medicine, we don't focus on what you're just bringing up.

00:20:08.000 What about metabolic health?

00:20:09.000 What about your vitamin D levels?

00:20:10.000 I mean, I'm known vitamin D, vitamin D. Everybody hears me say that.

00:20:13.000 Now all the studies are vindicating what I said, you know, way early in the pandemic.

00:20:18.000 And they're like, oh, gosh, look, if you're not obese and your vitamin D levels are normal, your chances of succumbing to COVID or having severe COVID are almost zero.

00:20:25.000 Oh, they recommended it now for COVID?

00:20:27.000 There's some fantastic papers that have finally, they haven't recommended it.

00:20:30.000 They still won't recommend it, but all the data and the science, to your point.

00:20:34.000 And anything that is cheap and effective, like these guys have been focusing on, that you can do and manage your own health.

00:20:44.000 A doctor's goal should always be to put him or herself out of practice.

00:20:48.000 If you're doing your job right as a healer, then all your patients are well enough.

00:20:52.000 They don't need a doctor.

00:20:53.000 Yeah, rarely.

00:20:54.000 This is where those of us that are in the political space, this makes a lot more sense than people that aren't, because we see this all the time, right?

00:21:00.000 We see this in the war machine, right?

00:21:02.000 I mean, they just can't help themselves and want to go to invade another country, right?

00:21:05.000 They're not in the business of peace.

00:21:06.000 I mean, peace is awful for Lockheed Martin, North of Brown.

00:21:09.000 It's the same incentive structure, right?

00:21:10.000 We have this really horrible concept that we have a health care system.

00:21:15.000 We don't.

00:21:15.000 We have a sick care system.

00:21:16.000 I completely agree with that.

00:21:17.000 We should be focusing on health and wellness.

00:21:19.000 What has been the public health message?

00:21:21.000 We have lost trust.

00:21:22.000 We have no transparency in public health.

00:21:24.000 And you look at all the pulpits in any country, in any state, in our nation.

00:21:28.000 Where were the public health officials saying, here's what you can do for health and wellness?

00:21:32.000 Missing.

00:21:33.000 Missing in action.

00:21:34.000 Absent.

00:21:36.000 I have 3,000 patients treated, no deaths.

00:21:39.000 3,000 patients treated, no deaths.

00:21:41.000 Yeah.

00:21:42.000 You personally.

00:21:42.000 Personally.

00:21:43.000 And for hospitalizations only.

00:21:43.000 Yeah.

00:21:45.000 But I have a bias.

00:21:46.000 My patients, part of these patients were mine already before COVID-19, and they were well supplemented with vitamins.

00:21:52.000 And then we have the same examples with other doctors in Brazil.

00:21:56.000 All their patients never died.

00:21:57.000 All of them well supplemented.

00:21:59.000 Just one of the many coincidences.

00:22:03.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:04.000 And how countries that vaccinated more had a tougher time with that.

00:22:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:09.000 Did you, so, you know, on that, you know, I think we talked about it last time.

00:22:13.000 I don't want to repeat it, but, you know, you brought it up, you know, this cookbook medicine, this obsession with guidelines and this move to standardization in medicine, right?

00:22:23.000 Turning patients into cars on a factory assembly line.

00:22:27.000 Literally, that's what I've likened to.

00:22:28.000 And I was already in lots of pushback before COVID when my chiefs were starting to speak the language of standardization.

00:22:36.000 They constantly were asking me to standardize the practices of the doctors in the ICU that I was running.

00:22:42.000 And I didn't understand why.

00:22:44.000 I mean, there's, you know, there's going to be a variety on how doctors treat some and there's normal distribution.

00:22:52.000 Some are going to be high-functioning, some are going to be low.

00:22:54.000 And I don't know that standardizing to the mean is the best.

00:22:57.000 Can actually take away from some of the best doctors.

00:22:59.000 I don't know that you can raise the lower, but this standardization is so inappropriate.

00:23:04.000 And then we talked about it, it's hyper-accelerated to this that shocked me.

00:23:09.000 Like the actions being taken in COVID.

00:23:11.000 So suddenly these COVID therapeutics committees appeared and were constructed in every hospital.

00:23:17.000 I was on one when COVID broke out.

00:23:19.000 I was actually one of the leading clinicians on the COVID therapy committee.

00:23:23.000 And we came up with our first protocol back in March 2020.

00:23:26.000 We had some suggested medicines to be considered.

00:23:29.000 Some doctors use them, some didn't.

00:23:32.000 But since then, it's solidified into just like these regimented stuff from the NIH.

00:23:37.000 And then they started removing options from formularies.

00:23:40.000 So ivermectin is the most common.

00:23:43.000 I don't know if that happened to you in the hospitals in Brazil.

00:23:45.000 They literally will not fill ivermectin in the hospitals.

00:23:50.000 And then did you follow the testimony that Ron Johnson's the other week and what Paul Marrick talked about, right?

00:23:56.000 So in Paul's, now that was a little bit more of a personal in vendetta against Paul.

00:24:01.000 It was really against us, the FLCC and our protocols, but they literally removed every single medicine that he'd been using effectively in our protocols.

00:24:08.000 And he was left with, I mean, he doesn't use remdesivir.

00:24:12.000 He would never let a patient get remdesivir, but all he had was steroids.

00:24:12.000 That's the one thing.

00:24:17.000 And every single one of his patients died.

00:24:20.000 Coincidentally, when they removed these mad patients, these chip ones from their protocols in hospitals, it started the hospitalizations. 0.97

00:24:28.000 Wow.

00:24:29.000 It started worsening the hospitalization?

00:24:31.000 So when you get an ER and you do not get a prescription with some of these medications, very early in the beginning to May 2020, they used to prescribe some of these drugs.

00:24:31.000 Exactly.

00:24:42.000 Their hospitalization rate was way below.

00:24:44.000 Suddenly, coincidentally, when they stopped prescribing these medications, maybe because hospitals were too empty.

00:24:53.000 So, Dr. Cole, I want to ask you, and that's amazing, by the way.

00:24:58.000 Is it as simple as follow the money?

00:25:01.000 Are there other components at play here, just like the cowardice of people to challenge big institutions?

00:25:06.000 I think that's part of it.

00:25:07.000 I mean, nobody wants to lose a job.

00:25:10.000 Because we've had consolidation of a healthcare system since Obamacare, there aren't as many independents.

00:25:16.000 And so you can't practice independently anymore.

00:25:19.000 And to Dr. Corey's point, now you have these big systems protocols and you have administrators and politicians practicing medicine without a license.

00:25:28.000 You have doctors, you know, in our age cohort with kids in college or the younger ones that come out of med school with too much student debt.

00:25:34.000 It's phenomenal how many colleagues have reached out to all of us and said, you guys are right.

00:25:39.000 I wish I could speak up.

00:25:41.000 But they don't have the, they want to speak up.

00:25:44.000 So I'm not going to criticize all my colleagues.

00:25:46.000 There are some that are horrible, but there's so many in there that are like, I'm stuck in a system.

00:25:50.000 I want to do what you guys are doing.

00:25:53.000 I can't.

00:25:54.000 So there are some that prescribe in the back of the paper, in the ER.

00:26:02.000 So, you know, the other things besides, you know, so what are the other forces besides money?

00:26:06.000 Because I've thought about it, because I have seen a lot of stuff happening that's not, it's not pharma paying someone off to do something.

00:26:12.000 That's right.

00:26:12.000 There's behaviors going on that, so like, so for instance, one of them, the inability to admit you're wrong, right?

00:26:20.000 That's one thing that I'm seeing now.

00:26:22.000 Like the propagation of these policies, it's not pharma pushing them, right?

00:26:25.000 They've long divorced from the science, but and people, so that combined with people like to make rules.

00:26:32.000 I've noticed people really like to make rules and they like to enforce rules.

00:26:36.000 Right.

00:26:36.000 And hospitals are full of rules.

00:26:39.000 They can't make enough rules.

00:26:41.000 And so I see this constant rulemaking, rule enforcing, and then add in a dash of what I think is a psychology of the vaccinated and those who've been propagating those policies, which is I think there's some amount of denial, remorse, regret, unease.

00:26:58.000 Those who have succumbed to vaccination, who've volunteered to get the vaccine, or actually no one's volunteered.

00:27:05.000 Everyone's going to coerced.

00:27:08.000 They might have made a mistake.

00:27:10.000 And I think to admit that mistake, they're unable to, because I think they would have to admit to themselves that they did something bad to themselves.

00:27:19.000 And so for them, it's almost like they double down in making sure everyone else.

00:27:24.000 It's a coping issue.

00:27:24.000 They did it.

00:27:25.000 And that's a better way of summarizing it.

00:27:28.000 It's a psychology of coping, and that's adding fuel to the source.

00:27:28.000 Absolutely.

00:27:32.000 That's just like other stuff that's called human psychology.

00:27:32.000 And that's not pharma money.

00:27:36.000 Because doctors tend to, I mean, in the profession, there's ego a lot because you worked a lot of years to achieve what you've achieved.

00:27:43.000 And MD to some of them means minor deity instead of make a difference.

00:27:48.000 And so that's the problem.

00:27:50.000 It is hard to say, gosh, I was wrong.

00:27:53.000 But some of the best doctors are the ones that are open-minded.

00:27:56.000 Look at what he's accomplished with all his research studies.

00:27:59.000 Look at how many lives he's saved.

00:28:00.000 And to say, gosh, I'm going to look at it.

00:28:02.000 If it works, cool.

00:28:03.000 If it doesn't, I'm humble enough to say, gosh, that didn't work.

00:28:06.000 I will shift gears.

00:28:07.000 And we don't see that.

00:28:08.000 That's the real science.

00:28:10.000 The real scientist admits and changed when data comes out.

00:28:15.000 I did not believe in undertreatments in the beginning.

00:28:18.000 So we started an observational study.

00:28:20.000 Data was so overwhelmingly for the benefits for treatments that I changed my mind.

00:28:25.000 But because of the data, unbiased data though.

00:28:28.000 So we need to remember.

00:28:30.000 So for being here, you need to have three points.

00:28:32.000 Integrity, a little bit of intelligence, and braveness.

00:28:37.000 Without any of these three, you're not able to be sitting here and talking to you right now.

00:28:42.000 Yeah, otherwise you're just, I mean, you're, like you said, a glorified chart operator, right?

00:28:47.000 I mean, that's based, like, I'm just going to kind of put you along, you know, if this, then that.

00:28:52.000 If that, then this.

00:28:54.000 But I know personally, and I'm not a doctor, but the people that have come to me for advice, because they live in Massachusetts, they can't find a doctor that will prescribe them stuff.

00:29:02.000 Like, what do I do?

00:29:03.000 I say, okay, well, Dr. Cole and Dr. Corey say, you know, melatonin and a vitamin D booster shot, maybe baby aspirin, get your hands on some prednisone, azithromycin, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine probably can't hurt.

00:29:15.000 And they're like, oh, yeah, now I'm better.

00:29:17.000 I mean, it's like, it's at some point, you have to have prudence as a doctor, right?

00:29:21.000 Yeah, that's so what you, I'd like what you just said, because one story that I forget to tell, especially when I started spewing in the ivermectin data, is, you know, when I finished my review paper and I was so overwhelmed with the positivity from in vitro, and vivo, animal, case studies, reports, all of that, right?

00:29:39.000 I actually hadn't treated a patient yet.

00:29:41.000 And I was so overwhelmed with data.

00:29:43.000 And my first patient I ever treated, it was a woman who had COVID and she was still having fevers and a resting heart rate of about 110, 120, almost two weeks into her illness and reached out, got her doctor actually to prescribe the ivermectin.

00:29:58.000 And she told me she felt very flush that night.

00:30:01.000 And the morning she woke up and her heart rate was 80 and she had no more fevers.

00:30:06.000 Now, was that the night that she was going to get better anyway, Charlie?

00:30:10.000 Or it might have had some, but you see this.

00:30:12.000 I only have 500 stories like that.

00:30:15.000 And that's where it's like, it's really hard to talk about this.

00:30:18.000 And they say my first patient, I could tell that it had a profound clinical.

00:30:22.000 They say it's a psychological placebo.

00:30:24.000 They said that we'll recover anyway, but the speed of recovery makes a difference.

00:30:29.000 Yeah, so someone came to me, some science person who was.

00:30:32.000 And you're not, the reason why I told the story is you're not a doctor.

00:30:35.000 You don't have to be a doctor.

00:30:36.000 No, I see that.

00:30:37.000 It's also just like it's very simple Aristotelian logic, right?

00:30:41.000 Which is like, what is the end I want?

00:30:44.000 And then what are the things that are in front of me that I have to analyze and process to get to the end that I want?

00:30:48.000 It's a teleological question, right?

00:30:50.000 Like, know what you want, which is someone not to die.

00:30:52.000 Not to try to not get sued or whatever, right?

00:30:52.000 Yeah.

00:30:55.000 Like, so I observe, I make the hypothesis, I do the experiment.

00:30:58.000 I confirm or deny and repeat.

00:31:00.000 So you've been doing experiments, Charlie.

00:31:01.000 Yeah, like I haven't prescribed anything, but I am proud to say, and I will own this, that people that were not doing well, thanks to all of your guys' advice and your network have saved lives.

00:31:11.000 And I was a communicator and a connector to that stuff.

00:31:15.000 I have people coming.

00:31:16.000 They're like, Charlie, you're going to get in trouble for this.

00:31:18.000 I'm like, if I get in trouble for connecting people with ivermectin, like put me in front of a jury.

00:31:22.000 Yes, connecting them with the information that incredible doctors have put out.

00:31:27.000 And it saved their life.

00:31:29.000 Today, the most precise way to evaluate whether a drug works or not for COVID is whether it is being attacked.

00:31:36.000 If it's under attack, it's effective.

00:31:36.000 Yes.

00:31:38.000 Yeah.

00:31:38.000 I believe that.

00:31:39.000 Unfortunately, it's not convincing to everybody because they think the opposite.

00:31:43.000 I think that's a closing window.

00:31:43.000 Some people.

00:31:45.000 So I want to ask you about something that I went on Tucker Carlson's show to talk about.

00:31:50.000 It really caught my eye, and we haven't discussed this at length.

00:31:53.000 I don't think we talked about this at all.

00:31:54.000 Maybe we did.

00:31:55.000 You know, we did talk about this a little bit, but now it's become a bigger story, which is Sam Davidson, who's the CEO of an insurance company in Indiana, $100 billion insurance company.

00:32:06.000 I wrote this piece and it kind of went viral.

00:32:09.000 I wasn't the first one to cover it, but I got it kind of into some of the main bloodstream.

00:32:13.000 Tucker and I did a segment on it.

00:32:14.000 It got smeared in every possible direction.

00:32:17.000 And just for everyone listening, it's that between ages 18 to 64, he and his actuaries in the life insurance industry are saying they have seen a 40% increase in death, and it's not because of COVID.

00:32:31.000 I went on Tucker's program and I said, look, it could be deaths of isolation, suicide, alcoholism, drug addiction.

00:32:38.000 We also decided to do a mass inoculation strategy.

00:32:40.000 We don't know if that had anything.

00:32:41.000 The fact I just said that, I had the Pfizer artillery after me this morning.

00:32:45.000 Wait, Charlie, I don't know if you saw.

00:32:49.000 So there's an investigative journalist who's done a lot of work around early treatment in Ivermectin.

00:32:53.000 Her name is Mary Beth Pfeiffer.

00:32:54.000 She wrote, she actually, after that news piece came out, where the interview with the CEO of a life insurance company saying that they've a 10% rise in that age group's mortality would be historic.

00:33:08.000 And 40% is catastrophic.

00:33:11.000 And they're literally paying out claims to a degree they've never had that increase.

00:33:15.000 But here's the thing: Mary Beth Pfeiffer wrote to that CEO, to the company, for follow-up questions and data.

00:33:22.000 They answered within an hour, which is really strange.

00:33:25.000 So we're used to data opaqueness, right?

00:33:28.000 Everyone's burying misleading, distorted data.

00:33:30.000 And they were like, here you go.

00:33:32.000 They sent her.

00:33:32.000 And you know what?

00:33:33.000 They sent her a CDC graph.

00:33:36.000 I don't know if we talked about this, but the graph showed the mortality rate in that age group from 2019, which was flat.

00:33:42.000 It was just consistent throughout the year.

00:33:44.000 2020, there was a little bump and then it flattened.

00:33:47.000 And then 2021 started flat.

00:33:50.000 And exactly right around the end of quarter one, it started on this 30% rise and it's continuing to work.

00:33:58.000 So when you say, right, because I've seen articles, I saw some people, you know, they gave about 18 different reasons why those deaths are occurring, right?

00:34:06.000 And like you said, isolation, drug abuse, you could say all of that.

00:34:09.000 But did drug abuse and isolation start at the end of quarter one of 2021?

00:34:14.000 I mean, you look at that and it's chilling.

00:34:16.000 There's only one thing that rolled out at the end of the first quarter of 21 and started to hit significant amounts of the population.

00:34:23.000 And so you're literally, it's very hard to argue that that's not a toxic and fatal effect of the vaccines.

00:34:30.000 And we know, we work with researchers.

00:34:32.000 Steve Kurtz vaccine safety.

00:34:34.000 Of epidemiologist analysts who have been calculating for months what the deaths associated with vaccines are.

00:34:42.000 And they've been saying, and I don't know where we're up to now.

00:34:44.000 I mean, when I was reading the papers a couple of months ago, it was 150 to 200,000, right?

00:34:50.000 And these are young people, 18 to 64.

00:34:54.000 And when I get a call from a small town and a family saying, our nine-year-old got the shot, our nine-year-old is now dead.

00:35:01.000 Nine-year-olds don't die.

00:35:03.000 In my same town, a 22-year-old healthy wrestler just died.

00:35:06.000 You know, anecdotal, sure, correlation is not causation is what you'll hear.

00:35:11.000 But as a pathologist, when I get families saying, will you please look at this autopsy tissue from my loved one?

00:35:17.000 And when you see the age range of these individuals, you just go, especially when the mandates hit quarter three, quarter four with that insurance data, that's when that big uptake hits.

00:35:28.000 So, but however, we're going to have a huge barrier.

00:35:32.000 So the way the analysis of the data and science is being formatted, is being formatted to avoid any sort of demonstration of causation.

00:35:42.000 So associations will never be causation.

00:35:45.000 They're going to blame on anything but the vaccines.

00:35:48.000 How would they do the data to show that?

00:35:51.000 Oh, they could explain by anything.

00:35:53.000 Just different explanations.

00:35:54.000 They could just...

00:35:54.000 No, no, I know, but if they were to do it honestly, how would they present it?

00:35:57.000 Like, do you see what I'm saying?

00:35:59.000 Like, oh, coexistent phenomenals, for example.

00:36:02.000 It's the memes I was just showing you.

00:36:04.000 Would the CDC then publish these many people who died were also vaccinated?

00:36:08.000 Like, would that be a helpful data point?

00:36:10.000 Yeah, but, for example, do you have some data in Brazil?

00:36:14.000 The hospitals are releasing the data from 90% are fully vaccinated from people who are dying currently.

00:36:21.000 And there's one data coming from each hospital alone and a completely different data when it comes all together.

00:36:29.000 So data is being fabricated.

00:36:30.000 Is that factored with age too, though?

00:36:32.000 Because some people say, well, of course, the more vaccinated people are dying because they're all older.

00:36:35.000 Not at all.

00:36:36.000 Not in Brazil.

00:36:38.000 I hear all this.

00:36:38.000 The hospital level data is actually showing where we're seeing from some of the more transparent countries, more of the people dying in the hospital are vaccinated.

00:36:45.000 But the aggregate data from the federal government is where it's obscuring that signal.

00:36:50.000 Exactly.

00:36:51.000 But if you look at like Dr. Pontasados out of Colombia that did the all-cause mortality study, and then was Neil Fenton out of the UK, you start looking at their data and go, well, gosh, the all-cause mortality is now higher.

00:37:04.000 And then you get the propaganda from like BBC, breathing too many times can cause a heart attack.

00:37:08.000 Cold weather causes a heart attack.

00:37:10.000 Climate change causes a heart attack.

00:37:11.000 And they're burying it in obscurity, trying to give you all these red herrings to not live.

00:37:18.000 What I like, right?

00:37:19.000 So all of this data chicanery and really just outright fraud, right? 0.99

00:37:23.000 You know, the Department of Defense thing that's gone on, right?

00:37:26.000 They're literally manipulating and hiding and distorting data to hide the truth, right?

00:37:30.000 Because they need to vaccinate.

00:37:32.000 But what I like about that life insurance story is follow the money.

00:37:38.000 Who's now putting really accurate data?

00:37:41.000 It's the guys losing money.

00:37:43.000 Well, there's a deeper point to this, though.

00:37:45.000 If what he is saying is true, and I believe it is, and if you guys believe it's true, you do realize insurance bonds are like way more stable than like treasuries.

00:37:57.000 People buy insurance bonds all the time as safe havens.

00:38:00.000 And so if insurance companies skew, I mean, you're talking about an economic collapse.

00:38:04.000 And I'm not trying to scare people, but insurance bonds are super reliable.

00:38:09.000 That's why they're talking right now.

00:38:11.000 I mean, that's why these guys are coming out.

00:38:12.000 They see that, I mean, you can't have that all-cause mortality of 18 to 60 years old continue to rise.

00:38:18.000 They're paying out not only life insurance claims to a degree they never have historically.

00:38:23.000 And that company's been around.

00:38:26.000 100 billion.

00:38:27.000 Disability claims are skyrocketing.

00:38:27.000 Yeah.

00:38:31.000 Explain why suddenly we're having an epidemic with disability.

00:38:34.000 Because of the post-traumatic stress from the paper, two steps back.

00:38:40.000 Yes.

00:38:40.000 And simple questions that remained unanswered, like, why don't we have access to the database data sets?

00:38:48.000 Why is this type of discussion being actively suppressed?

00:38:53.000 Yes.

00:38:54.000 So it's very simple to understand.

00:38:56.000 Of course, there's been data hidden and will keep hidden in the next couple of years.

00:39:01.000 We need to get prepared for what's about to come.

00:39:03.000 We don't know.

00:39:04.000 What do you think is about to come?

00:39:05.000 A variety of diseases that used to be rare.

00:39:09.000 It's not going to be so.

00:39:11.000 Do you think caused by the vaccine?

00:39:13.000 I cannot say that, but I can hypothesize through the extensive pathophysiology and changes in immunity.

00:39:22.000 We're already seeing some, for example, I am seeing an epidemic of herpes ulster in my herpes.

00:39:28.000 Hyperzoster.

00:39:29.000 Shingles. 0.91

00:39:30.000 Shingles herpes.

00:39:31.000 And also the zoster.

00:39:31.000 Yes, okay.

00:39:33.000 How do you call it herpesoster?

00:39:34.000 We're seeing that in the states.

00:39:35.000 Shingles? 0.94

00:39:36.000 The shingles.

00:39:36.000 We call it shingles.

00:39:37.000 And people that are used to never had it before.

00:39:40.000 You're also seeing like complicated upper tract infection caused by bacteria and hard to treat.

00:39:48.000 Upper respiratory.

00:39:49.000 Upper tract.

00:39:50.000 Yeah.

00:39:50.000 So you're seeing pneumonia being caused by bacteria that used to be seen only in immunocompromised patients.

00:39:56.000 It's already being seen by now.

00:39:58.000 And so Dr. Cole, when I even weigh in on this topic with our platform, again, I don't care.

00:40:03.000 These people can find a life.

00:40:05.000 I mean, the slander is impressive of what they're able to pull off, right?

00:40:10.000 And there's like, it's a non-starter.

00:40:12.000 Is this just another one of those things that we kind of talked about earlier where follow the money, you know?

00:40:17.000 Never ascribe to malice that which can be described by ignorance or ascribed to ignorance. 0.99

00:40:24.000 And so these people are ignorant. 0.99

00:40:25.000 They don't know the science. 0.99

00:40:26.000 My job is to explain what he's seeing.

00:40:29.000 As a pathologist, the mechanisms, this shingles, this zoster, this immune suppression, fantastic papers on this, why it's happening.

00:40:38.000 Paper out of Stanford, how long that spike is persisting in the human body now, in the lymph nodes, 60 days.

00:40:45.000 They advertise it as you get a shot, it breaks down, you get a little protein, and it's gone.

00:40:49.000 Nonsense.

00:40:50.000 It's persisting a long time.

00:40:52.000 It is suppressing the immune system.

00:40:53.000 I see it in the laboratory.

00:40:54.000 I see it in the data.

00:40:56.000 And what happens when you suppress these little pattern receptors, these toll-like receptors?

00:41:00.000 You can't keep viruses in check anymore.

00:41:03.000 These bacteria Flavio is describing, you can't keep those in check.

00:41:07.000 And we don't know for how long that immune system is suppressed.

00:41:12.000 What else can't you keep in check, Ryan?

00:41:14.000 Cancers.

00:41:15.000 You can't keep cancers in check.

00:41:17.000 Wildfire cancers.

00:41:19.000 Certainly, I have three or four patients already with diagnosed acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, not caused by HIV, of course.

00:41:28.000 All vaccine, all after vaccines.

00:41:30.000 So they have absolutely low levels of lymphocytes, CD4, CDH, different types of population, subpopulations of lymphocytes.

00:41:41.000 And they used to have normal levels because some of them have their levels prior to COVID.

00:41:47.000 So let me ask you, can non-vaccinated people be damaged by other vaccinated people?

00:41:54.000 Like there is a theory out there of shedding.

00:41:58.000 And again, I know very little about this.

00:42:01.000 There was a good paper last week studying this.

00:42:04.000 And there's just one subtle little line in.

00:42:07.000 I can send you the paper.

00:42:08.000 But it talks about how the cells involute and that spike comes off of them.

00:42:14.000 And it talks about how it sloughs and sheds them.

00:42:18.000 And it was a vaccine study.

00:42:19.000 And the question is, the dose makes the poison in life.

00:42:24.000 If I drink too much water, I'll die.

00:42:26.000 So we're all constantly exposed to all sorts of pathogens all day long.

00:42:31.000 So if you get a little spike, you've already had COVID, you're going to get a sniffle for a day, your body's going to clear it.

00:42:35.000 But if you get a massive dose of it, that's a different story.

00:42:38.000 And if you get COVID and recover, the amount of virus that you make and spike that you make is far less than those who are getting the shots and persistently making it in their body.

00:42:49.000 And that was the Stanford study as well.

00:42:51.000 And you just look at it and go, gosh, we're doing something synthetic with something we've never done on humanity before.

00:42:56.000 We're accidentally calling it a vaccine, even though it doesn't prevent acquisition, transmission, disease, or death, and causes increased all-cause mortality.

00:43:05.000 And we're calling that a vaccine.

00:43:07.000 And we've acquiesced to that term.

00:43:09.000 It's crazy.

00:43:10.000 The shedding thing.

00:43:11.000 So the other pieces, right?

00:43:13.000 So there's that little mention that introduces the possibility that you could shed.

00:43:17.000 No one's ever answered to me why in that original Pfizer study, page 67.

00:43:23.000 Do you know about page 67, Charlie?

00:43:24.000 Tell me about it.

00:43:25.000 In page 67, they actually had an exclusion criteria to enter the trial is that you couldn't be, I think, your partner couldn't have been vaccinated.

00:43:36.000 They literally didn't want to be in the same room.

00:43:40.000 You couldn't make the same contact as someone vaccinated.

00:43:42.000 So it basically was a clause which suggested that they had a concern about shedding.

00:43:48.000 So that's two.

00:43:50.000 I have now talked to, so then the third point I want to make is this.

00:43:54.000 Probably the one of the most common side effects of the vaccines in women, right, is disturbances in menstruation.

00:44:02.000 I hear it all the time.

00:44:03.000 But for both vaccinated and unvaccinated.

00:44:05.000 Well, so hold on, that's where I'm going, right?

00:44:07.000 So off the charts, right?

00:44:10.000 We know from the military data.

00:44:12.000 And by the way, I'm just going to have to stop here and say I find it absolutely abhorrent that we have 120 academic medical centers in this country.

00:44:20.000 You have 120 chairs of obstetrics, gynecology departments amongst those 120 academic medical centers who work for 120 deans.

00:44:29.000 And I call this the silence of the deans.

00:44:32.000 You're telling me that legions of obstetricians and gynecologists in this country aren't seeing their practices ravaged by these vaccines.

00:44:41.000 Where are they?

00:44:42.000 Why aren't they at this table?

00:44:43.000 Why isn't there an OBGYN race?

00:44:45.000 Maybe.

00:44:46.000 But I think it's just, it's what Flavi was saying is just a lack of courage.

00:44:50.000 But my point is this: I have had encounters now with quite a few people who've come to me with clear connection.

00:44:58.000 Now, again, these are just anecdotes.

00:45:00.000 These are clinical anecdotes.

00:45:01.000 That's why I wanted to put out the theoretical reason, right?

00:45:04.000 You're giving us some of the pathophysiology, but I'm seeing on the clinical level women who were not vaccinated went to an appointment to, like, I think one went to an acupuncturist who had recently vaccinated.

00:45:16.000 And she told me, this is a number of women. 1.00

00:45:19.000 Both of them said the reason why they were making this association is because their menstrual cycles had been so regular for so long.

00:45:26.000 They said you could set a clock to it.

00:45:29.000 Never really missed a day, never late, never nothing.

00:45:32.000 And then both of them, not only either became amenorrheaic or irregular or heavy periods, or like they even talked about breast swelling, and they were convinced it was because of a close exposure to a vaccinated person.

00:45:44.000 Yeah, and it could also be women sometimes get, they court without knowing it. 1.00

00:45:49.000 The pheromone.

00:45:50.000 That's right.

00:45:51.000 They get on the same cycle.

00:45:53.000 After 25 years of the same cycle, that's the counter argument they make.

00:45:57.000 I'm just putting that out there.

00:45:58.000 And we know in the sweat in Wuhan, they did a subway study in the sweat.

00:46:02.000 You know, those infected were shedding spike protein in the sweat.

00:46:04.000 So we know the spike can shed.

00:46:06.000 There are vaccines that are self-spreading that we've used in animal populations, rabbit populations, trying to control fertility.

00:46:14.000 So we have self-spreading vaccines.

00:46:16.000 It's a thing already.

00:46:17.000 I hope we were absolutely wrong, but this is the real scientific discussion.

00:46:21.000 So what I'm impressed is the lack of studies on the endocrinological side of the COVID as a notch.

00:46:27.000 Endocrinological side, right?

00:46:28.000 There's no endocrinological side of the impacts, right?

00:46:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:32.000 So like hormonal perturbances.

00:46:34.000 I am seeing my clinical practice every single day.

00:46:38.000 And coincidentally, some do happen after the COVID itself, but some only happens after a vaccine.

00:46:46.000 So it is happening a lot.

00:46:48.000 And of course, I cannot mention causality, but it's the clinical observation.

00:46:52.000 It was one of the bases that built the medical history.

00:46:56.000 So we cannot avoid them.

00:46:58.000 And this is, you know, going back to Dr. Corey's point about this Department of Defense data and the fraud and the cover-up, and heads are going to roll and people are going to...

00:47:05.000 You got to explain what that is.

00:47:06.000 Okay, so DME D-Med.

00:47:09.000 So the Defense Military Epidemiology Database, one of the tightest databases in the world.

00:47:15.000 You know, everybody complains about VARES is sketchy.

00:47:18.000 You know, anyone can report to VARES, though you can go to prison for making a false VARES report.

00:47:23.000 But D-Med, that's done by the physicians.

00:47:25.000 And the Department of Defense wants to know, is there a bad signal any day to the troops?

00:47:30.000 Is there a poison?

00:47:31.000 Is there something in the mechanical hydraulic fluid causing an injury?

00:47:34.000 Illness rampaging.

00:47:35.000 Illness rampaging food.

00:47:36.000 Everything.

00:47:37.000 So wherever they are in the world, they want to have troop readiness.

00:47:41.000 So this epidemiologic database, it's an epidemiology database that's updated every week or two.

00:47:47.000 It's been updated now for six years once the codes change and the computer systems change.

00:47:54.000 So it's either fraudulent one way or another.

00:47:56.000 Here's the problem.

00:47:57.000 And this was in Senator Johnson's hearing.

00:47:59.000 Huge uptick.

00:48:00.000 Cancers, pulmonary ambulance, heart attacks, infertility, testicular cancer.

00:48:04.000 You name it.

00:48:06.000 Anxiety, depression, suicide.

00:48:08.000 Skyrocketing.

00:48:08.000 And these were several whistleblowers that came forth with the data.

00:48:12.000 They downloaded it.

00:48:13.000 They have videos of what the database was.

00:48:16.000 Here's the download.

00:48:18.000 Well, what happened?

00:48:19.000 And everything is up above your five years.

00:48:23.000 Summer averages.

00:48:24.000 2,500% higher.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, and this is a healthy young population.

00:48:29.000 This is the military.

00:48:30.000 So to have this trickle five years and then boom with so many different conditions.

00:48:36.000 Well, what happened last week?

00:48:37.000 The system froze.

00:48:39.000 And then all the data this next week changed.

00:48:42.000 Oh, gosh, it's actually lower in some of these and similar.

00:48:46.000 So either somebody is guilty of not keeping the database up for five years, and or they just changed it all.

00:48:55.000 But this is a smoking felony gun.

00:48:57.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:48:58.000 So you have this absurd statistical anomaly, sort of like we were just talking about in life insurance data, right?

00:49:06.000 So in a big Department of Defense database, you have a legion of illnesses and lots of cancers that are skyrocketing in the military.

00:49:14.000 And suddenly this whistleblowers come out, and then the Department of Defense says, oh, yeah, it's a little glitch there.

00:49:24.000 We didn't, the prior year's numbers are falsely low and they take offline.

00:49:30.000 And so here's the thing, though.

00:49:33.000 Here's the thing.

00:49:33.000 I'm going to use a good analogy.

00:49:35.000 So when I discovered that, when I knew this was a lab leak virus, is when someone finally told me that the fish market where the first case came out of was 300 yards from the actual only lab doing gain of function research on coronavirus.

00:49:50.000 I was like, oh, that's done.

00:49:53.000 It's from the lab.

00:49:54.000 But here's this one.

00:49:56.000 The whistleblowers come out, and then the following week, they say, oh, we just discovered this anomaly where these were falsely low.

00:50:04.000 And so we're going to fix that now.

00:50:06.000 So thank you, whistleblowers.

00:50:08.000 And now they pull it offline, and now they admit that they found it.

00:50:11.000 So they didn't notice these discrepancies before.

00:50:14.000 They knew them.

00:50:15.000 They just weren't talking about it.

00:50:16.000 No one was coming out and saying they could see it in the data.

00:50:19.000 And again, when we talk about all this data suppression, right, it comes back down to inconvenient science, right?

00:50:26.000 So this is data inconvenient to the interests of this obsessive policy driven by the vaccination industry.

00:50:34.000 And so they will bury, suppress, and distort any inconvenient data that's going to go against their narrative and against their goals.

00:50:42.000 And the thing that's just shocking is how successful they've been at it.

00:50:48.000 I mean, you literally have most of this country, and I hope that's changing.

00:50:52.000 I think your listeners, and we go on podcasts, I was on Dell Big Trees.

00:50:56.000 He's got a big, big audience.

00:50:57.000 I think those numbers who are waking up and realizing that they've been lied to are increasing.

00:51:03.000 But I still say massive portions of this country still believe what they're hearing from the television stations and on the radio, and they're still hearing nonsense.

00:51:11.000 They're still hearing mistruths and blatant lies and misrepresentations of the data.

00:51:16.000 Yes.

00:51:16.000 And you've talked about the Trusted News Initiative on your program before.

00:51:20.000 You know what?

00:51:21.000 Sort of.

00:51:22.000 And go ahead.

00:51:23.000 Okay.

00:51:23.000 We've danced around with it a little bit.

00:51:25.000 2019, BBC, AP, CBC Canada, India, European News Service, Microsoft, Facebook, LinkedIn.

00:51:36.000 Agents France-Prés.

00:51:39.000 That's my favorite for Gates.

00:51:42.000 If you look at all these, you know, if you look up TNI, and it was for election integrity that they got together and said, you know, for election integrity around the world and the U.S., whatever, we're going to get together and make sure that only the truth is going to be reported.

00:51:55.000 Well, when they finished whatever happened in 2019, they said, okay, well, gosh, we are going to make sure that nothing is spoken against vaccines and nothing is spoken against what the CDC or WHO has said.

00:52:08.000 So for the last almost two years, you have had collusion, almost a RICO-like violation, mob-like behavior of the media saying, we will report on this and this.

00:52:19.000 Look it up.

00:52:19.000 It's out there.

00:52:20.000 They said, hey, look, we did it.

00:52:21.000 We formed our coalition.

00:52:22.000 We are the Trusted News Initiative.

00:52:24.000 You will hear what we say.

00:52:25.000 It's the Ministry of Truth from 1984.

00:52:28.000 Yes.

00:52:28.000 Well, it's very similar to Operation Mockingbird, which was never disassembled, by the way.

00:52:32.000 Very much so.

00:52:32.000 Which was revealed by the Church and Pike Committee from the American Intelligence Agency.

00:52:37.000 And it's globally.

00:52:38.000 The other observation, I was working on a talk the other day, and I have this new lecture that I've been giving over the last couple of weeks.

00:52:46.000 Ryan's heard it.

00:52:47.000 It's called the Disinformation Campaign Against Ivermectin.

00:52:50.000 And it's just, it's not about the data on our maintenance.

00:52:52.000 It's just about the disinformation.

00:52:54.000 All of the attempts and tactics and the captured journals and researchers and all of that.

00:52:58.000 And throughout, Bill Gates keeps showing up.

00:53:03.000 You know, two clicks from any action.

00:53:06.000 Two clicks from every action, you find Bill Gates.

00:53:09.000 You find him funding the medical journals.

00:53:13.000 And one of the things, one of the slides is I have a slide showing the hundreds of millions of dollars he gives to media companies.

00:53:20.000 $392 million last year.

00:53:22.000 And I thought to myself, I said, now this is interesting.

00:53:25.000 A global philanthropist whose main interest is in vaccinating essentially the world and making that pretty much the sole intervention of global public health.

00:53:36.000 Purportedly, that seems attractive to people.

00:53:39.000 And that's, you know, he's a real, you know, he contributes to humanity in that regard.

00:53:44.000 Why does he need to give hundreds of millions to media companies?

00:53:48.000 How is someone who's devoted to public health, why are they giving hundreds of millions to media?

00:53:55.000 Is it because media companies are losing money and they're hemorrhaging?

00:53:58.000 He wants to make them viable?

00:54:00.000 That's not true.

00:54:01.000 Well, and I will say the thing about Bill Gates that's really brilliant.

00:54:04.000 He's different than Klaus Schwab, who looks like Belfour from a James Bond.

00:54:09.000 And different than Soros, who just looks like Palpatine from Star Wars.

00:54:13.000 Gates, as kind of just like a figure, is affable and kind of clumsy.

00:54:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:54:18.000 He's like, oh, he's so smart.

00:54:20.000 Yeah, he forgets to tie his shoes, right?

00:54:22.000 Like, come on, that guy couldn't be behind anything Machiavellian, right?

00:54:25.000 He's just a coder that didn't go to college and he's super rich and he must have my best interest at heart.

00:54:32.000 And it's well known and it's well documented.

00:54:34.000 After Gates almost got in a lot of trouble with the United States government back in the 90s and 2000 of automatically instoring Internet Explorer in our computers, he hired a publicist for tens of millions of dollars and he redid his entire image because he was a villain in the 90s.

00:54:47.000 You guys remember?

00:54:48.000 Like greedy and super aggressive Bill Gates is coming into the DOJ and telling people how to do things.

00:54:53.000 And next thing you know, all of a sudden it's like, no, actually, he's kind of like, he's still a teenager at heart.

00:54:58.000 And he rides his bike, you know, around Bellevue.

00:55:01.000 And next thing you know, he's kind of like orchestrating the public health policy of the entire industrialized world.

00:55:06.000 Don't trust his medical degree for some reason.

00:55:09.000 Yeah.

00:55:09.000 I mean, oh, wait, his medical degree.

00:55:11.000 Oh, he doesn't have one.

00:55:12.000 And you know, the other thing, the other thing is so, maybe part of that image change, you know, is he rebranded himself as a philanthropist because he's anything but, right?

00:55:21.000 So that's exactly.

00:55:22.000 Tess Laurie said this really powerfully almost a year ago.

00:55:26.000 She said, you know, how does a philanthropist gain wealth in a global how is a public health philanthropist gain wealth in a global pandemic?

00:55:38.000 We'd have to go back to isn't philanthropy when you give away money?

00:55:41.000 Yeah, but if you look at philanthropy literally means love of people.

00:55:45.000 Let's go back to the girl.

00:55:46.000 Is that true?

00:55:46.000 Okay.

00:55:47.000 Philanthropy doesn't come, it's not shown.

00:55:49.000 So what is worse is that all these people behind the scene are bulletproof for whatever happens in the future because they did it everything in a way that the contracts, the links, they will be bulletproof.

00:56:04.000 So that's another point.

00:56:04.000 So nobody will be blamed for what will happen.

00:56:08.000 I want to kind of chew on this Bill Gates thing because I think it's really interesting.

00:56:11.000 And he's impacted our life big time.

00:56:14.000 He had a close relationship with Anthony Fauci.

00:56:16.000 We know that.

00:56:17.000 And Epstein.

00:56:18.000 Another question.

00:56:18.000 And Jeffrey Epstein, but he was only on the plane to try to get Epstein to change his internet browser.

00:56:25.000 Oh, yes.

00:56:26.000 Yeah.

00:56:26.000 Oh, that's right.

00:56:27.000 He went down to the island to make sure they were using Microsoft Cloud.

00:56:31.000 Very completely.

00:56:32.000 Because, you know, that those camera systems for all the underage girls. 1.00

00:56:35.000 No way could AWS be doing that.

00:56:38.000 It would be a real bad violation of Microsoft shareholder agreements.

00:56:41.000 So, does he think he's doing good?

00:56:47.000 I don't know what exactly.

00:56:48.000 No, come on. 0.85

00:56:49.000 I mean, but when he says, you know, look, vaccines are a great investment.

00:56:52.000 That's a 20-to-one ROI in a talk a couple years ago.

00:56:56.000 And then you look at everything that he's invested in that makes money.

00:57:00.000 And then he buys the media's good graces.

00:57:04.000 No.

00:57:05.000 He's a representative of the vaccine industry.

00:57:09.000 He represents their interests.

00:57:10.000 So he increases their market throughout the world.

00:57:13.000 He has perverted and corrupted literally public health systems throughout Africa. 0.99

00:57:19.000 So he owns the WHO.

00:57:21.000 Can you talk about that?

00:57:22.000 Yeah.

00:57:22.000 So from Bobby Kennedy's book, he details it really well.

00:57:25.000 Is that he gives so much money to the vaccine arm of public health ministries in Africa?

00:57:34.000 It's like Senegal, for example.

00:57:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:57:36.000 It's so much about the vaccine.

00:57:38.000 So he gives it all magnetic.

00:57:40.000 Congo.

00:57:41.000 Senegal uses hydroxychloroquine.

00:57:43.000 I picked the country out of Miller.

00:57:45.000 Côte d'Doire, okay?

00:57:48.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:57:48.000 The Ivory Coast.

00:57:51.000 I don't know.

00:57:52.000 So, so, you know, he corrupts, like, he basically, you know, the standard, like the epidemiologists and the public health officials down there, they recognize for Africa that critical things for public health is like water sanitation, food, just nutrition and water, maybe some basic medicines.

00:58:15.000 Those are like the foundation of preserving some amount of public health.

00:58:19.000 And all of a sudden, all these vaccines and vaccine money comes in.

00:58:23.000 And what happened, there's these absurd examples where the pay for a vaccination nurse to promote vaccines and give vaccines is double to triple what the other public health nurses get.

00:58:36.000 So he's literally upsetting and disturbing the balance.

00:58:40.000 And there are these poor, well-meaning public health officials who are saying like everybody's dying because all the money is going to vaccines and they don't have enough for those standard much more positive.

00:58:52.000 So that's just on a micro level.

00:58:54.000 That was well described.

00:58:56.000 But the money that he gives, so then the other thing that he does, and he did this in this pandemic, so he's essentially a representative of vaccination industry, well invested in almost all the vaccine companies.

00:59:08.000 Personally.

00:59:10.000 And or his fund, whatever.

00:59:12.000 Which how you can have a foundation that also is in your, I don't understand that.

00:59:16.000 I mean, I know nonprofit law like really well and like separation of things.

00:59:21.000 It's how it's so interconnected.

00:59:23.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:23.000 And it's only showing you a lot of the same thing.

00:59:26.000 You're saying that you're disturbed, Charlie, by someone who has a huge foundation with hundreds of billions of dollars and is vested in pharmaceutical companies.

00:59:37.000 And then privately, you're also invested in pharmaceuticals.

00:59:40.000 And this furthers the global demand and market and uptake of vaccines.

00:59:45.000 And then you also, is that a problem?

00:59:48.000 I can't imagine that he's trying to push it just for the benevolence of the world, right?

00:59:53.000 No transparency theories can compete with reality, right?

00:59:56.000 So just one example of the whole, if you think there's not a plan out there, why didn't they study the medications in 2020, these medications that came out, like Pox Lovid and Monopirovir?

01:00:10.000 Why weren't they studied before?

01:00:11.000 They needed the vaccines before because you couldn't have any treatments as an alternative for an EUA. 0.60

01:00:17.000 Exactly.

01:00:18.000 I disagree slightly because that's if they played by the rules, Flavio.

01:00:24.000 They make the rules.

01:00:25.000 So like they can have that.

01:00:26.000 You can have that in a little clause.

01:00:28.000 No, yeah, exactly.

01:00:29.000 And I used to believe that too, is that they were actually trying to actually, you know, work their way around a rule when they write the rules.

01:00:36.000 They could just make up a new rule.

01:00:38.000 So but the other thing, you know, going back to Gates.

01:00:40.000 For example, yeah, they changed the definition of vaccine.

01:00:43.000 But the other thing about Gates is that apparently his personal philosophy and one of the central tenets of what he does for the vaccine industry is he ensures that their intellectual property is protected.

01:00:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:00:59.000 So if you remember going back to the early part when the vaccines first started to roll out, right?

01:01:04.000 There was a worldwide clamor for these vaccines.

01:01:07.000 And all of these low-income countries wanted the recipe.

01:01:11.000 To license.

01:01:12.000 This is what we all thought, like, hey, we got a solution here.

01:01:14.000 We can get this thing done with vaccines, right?

01:01:16.000 And I was one of them.

01:01:17.000 I was hopeful at the beginning that we had a safe vaccine that could get it done.

01:01:21.000 So the entire world wanted this.

01:01:23.000 And guess who fought, right?

01:01:25.000 This is well documented.

01:01:27.000 Guess who fought that Kumbaya, you know, like, hey, let's just share the recipe and all the countries can start making the vaccines and everyone get vaccinated.

01:01:35.000 Is that how it worked out?

01:01:36.000 Nope.

01:01:37.000 And he was the main proponent arguing at the WHO, arguing against this through Gavi, through the alliance.

01:01:44.000 And so when you talk about some of his behaviors around here, I mean, they are really disturbing.

01:01:49.000 They're downright terrifying.

01:01:51.000 And I think he is, you know, when we talk about all the stuff that's going on, the investments in the media, the investments in the international agency, the control over the vaccine, the vaccine coalitions and his protection against the intellectual property.

01:02:05.000 I mean, this does not sound benign.

01:02:08.000 This does not sound like someone whose interests are public health.

01:02:10.000 I don't know if you guys have access here in the US, but another argument you can use is you have a good vaccine, regardless of their political regimen in Cuba.

01:02:20.000 They have the Soberona Q that works at least as well as the other vaccines, at least their official data.

01:02:27.000 For COVID or COVID, yeah.

01:02:28.000 They have international observations and nothing to do with Cuba regimen, okay?

01:02:33.000 Different.

01:02:33.000 But the point is that even with the great data they have.

01:02:37.000 I mean, they do have some good data.

01:02:39.000 They're not able to convince the World Health Organization to include them as vaccines.

01:02:44.000 And they have more data than other vaccines that are out there.

01:02:47.000 They're not even recognized as the WHO doesn't recognize that vaccine.

01:02:51.000 So this is a separate vaccine Cuba developed?

01:02:53.000 Yes.

01:02:54.000 And nobody knows about it.

01:02:55.000 And actually, it's the only country.

01:02:57.000 Is it mRNA based?

01:02:58.000 No, no.

01:02:59.000 No, no.

01:02:59.000 It's an activated virus.

01:03:01.000 So they tried five types, and they had issues in the production.

01:03:06.000 And now they started, when they achieved 60% of the population vaccinated, the number of cases just dropped almost to zero.

01:03:13.000 I completely against their regimen, okay?

01:03:15.000 You mean their regime?

01:03:16.000 The regime.

01:03:16.000 I'm sorry.

01:03:16.000 Sorry, English.

01:03:18.000 You know, I understand.

01:03:18.000 No, no, it's okay.

01:03:19.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.97

01:03:21.000 The Castros are evil.

01:03:22.000 But is this the same case with this data? 0.62

01:03:24.000 Or is this?

01:03:25.000 No, no, it's different.

01:03:26.000 Russia is put NIC. 0.88

01:03:27.000 And not even Russians are using it.

01:03:30.000 Okay.

01:03:30.000 So I'm supposed to believe that Cuba that can't even make a car, they made a vaccine that works.

01:03:37.000 Like I've defined that really well.

01:03:39.000 Or they have access.

01:03:41.000 Or like the Iranians gave it to them or something.

01:03:43.000 I mean, like.

01:03:44.000 Here's my problem with.

01:03:45.000 And again, you know, I'm a domestic terrorist, according to DHS now for speaking science.

01:03:53.000 Yeah, can we talk about this?

01:03:54.000 Yeah, we need to talk about this.

01:03:55.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:03:56.000 But the problem is in the coronavirus family, here's me being a geeky nerdy pathologist, virologist, immunologist.

01:04:03.000 Coronaviruses mutate constantly.

01:04:05.000 We've heard variant, variant, variant, variant.

01:04:07.000 So we make a vaccine.

01:04:08.000 We saw how maybe it helped at first and then became ineffective.

01:04:12.000 And then ineffective.

01:04:13.000 Ineffect, we're playing whack-a-mole with a vaccine and a virus that will always mutate ahead of it.

01:04:18.000 So this is where we're blessed with Omicron because now it's more benign, technically.

01:04:22.000 You look at HIV as a virus.

01:04:24.000 For 40 years, they've been trying to make a vaccine against HIV.

01:04:29.000 It also has a spike protein, different one, but why isn't there a vaccine for that?

01:04:34.000 Because it mutates.

01:04:35.000 There are certain families of viruses.

01:04:38.000 You may have some effect at first, but when they mutate, you have made an immune response and an antibody to Dr. Corey's point and the data showing that now if you've got the shots, you get COVID at a higher rate, especially like the Denmark data, the Israel data.

01:04:53.000 Alberta.

01:04:54.000 There is wisdom in science that says there are certain things that are prudent and there are certain things that are imprudent.

01:05:01.000 And what we did from day one, if we look at the history of coronavirus vaccinology, SARS-CoV-1 MERS, et cetera, why don't we have a vaccine to the common colds, all the different families?

01:05:11.000 Because they always mutate.

01:05:13.000 We made a mistake.

01:05:14.000 The chief immunologist of Israel a week or two ago said, okay, mistakes were made.

01:05:19.000 Passports are a bad idea.

01:05:20.000 The vaccines aren't working.

01:05:22.000 But did that make mainstream news around the world?

01:05:24.000 No, he got maligned for saying it.

01:05:26.000 And he's their chief immunologist vaccinologist.

01:05:29.000 I think that's a really remarkable event, right?

01:05:32.000 That you had the chief immunologist in the country of Israel.

01:05:36.000 Yeah, Pfizer finally admits that it is a complete failure.

01:05:41.000 And this vaccine discussion, you know, as disturbing as it is, you know, Ryan brings up the point.

01:05:47.000 He brought up the point that I thought about when they rolled out the vaccines.

01:05:50.000 I was like, really?

01:05:52.000 We're going to vaccinate a coronavirus?

01:05:55.000 That's number one.

01:05:56.000 Look how full circle we came.

01:05:57.000 So the entire premise was on shaky science, right?

01:06:01.000 And then to go even more full circle, when you look at the prior coronavirus vaccines, do you know how and why they failed and were most disturbing?

01:06:09.000 From antibody-dependent enhancement.

01:06:11.000 The people who are getting vaccinated.

01:06:12.000 I'm trying to translate that.

01:06:13.000 That means that people get their ability to fight future viruses, their whole immune system gets weaker.

01:06:19.000 If they get vaccinated first, if they get vaccinated first, it's a very complex immune phenomenon.

01:06:24.000 And if you ask him, he's going to go a half hour and he's going to lose weight.

01:06:27.000 Well, I'm just trying to translate it to those of us that.

01:06:31.000 Basically, what happens is when you develop the antibodies to the vaccine and then later get the illness, there's this very complex interplay between the immune system and the antibody.

01:06:41.000 It actually triggers this robust, overwhelming response, and you actually die at a higher rate if you've received the vaccines before you get the illness.

01:06:53.000 Okay.

01:06:53.000 I'm seeing this anecdote.

01:06:55.000 And so when I say coming full circle, one of the reasons why that immunologist said, you know, cried mercy, you know, enough.

01:07:02.000 We got to stop here is I believe that's occurring in Israel.

01:07:06.000 And so that fear and that faulty premise just from the get-go, going after a coronavirus vaccine, going after a coronavirus with a vaccine and the risk associated and the history of the failures with ADE, guess where we are now?

01:07:21.000 Two years later.

01:07:22.000 And when you're looking at Israel, those deaths are rocketing.

01:07:25.000 And so, and with Omicron, right?

01:07:28.000 Let's be clear here.

01:07:29.000 The deaths are rocketing.

01:07:30.000 This is a kitten compared to a tiger, a virus.

01:07:33.000 This isn't Delta that's killing them.

01:07:35.000 You're getting a milder virus that's killing people.

01:07:38.000 So in Brazil, you're having, like, we had the most lethal variant called B1 or Gamma.

01:07:44.000 And right now, we have this Omicron going on, and we have almost a third of the number of deaths that we used to have a year ago.

01:07:51.000 So it's weird that now that we have the fully vaccinated population, Brazil's almost fully vaccinated.

01:07:57.000 Flavio, though, his listeners, Charlie, has to understand.

01:07:57.000 Really?

01:08:00.000 I don't know if you know, because he's been living and breathing it.

01:08:03.000 The gamma variant in Brazil was a super variant as far as death.

01:08:08.000 Why did it come?

01:08:09.000 I like his theory.

01:08:11.000 Yeah, because it was too little, too aggressive, it did not spread.

01:08:15.000 Just like it's less contagious than Delta, first point.

01:08:21.000 But it's much more violent and much more violent.

01:08:23.000 But more violent and more deadly.

01:08:25.000 Is that strain phased itself out?

01:08:27.000 Exactly.

01:08:28.000 Just like Ebola virus.

01:08:29.000 Does it have a life cycle left?

01:08:31.000 No, it's eradicated.

01:08:33.000 But it's easy.

01:08:34.000 Any other virus competing with gamma won't, just like what happened with Delta.

01:08:39.000 So Delta for us was a relief in the number of deaths.

01:08:42.000 But right now in Omicron, we're unexpectedly seeing a rise in the number of deaths in an almost fully vaccinated population.

01:08:50.000 You're seeing a third of gamma, which was one of the most deadly.

01:08:53.000 You guys were seeing untreated, I think, was 50% mortality.

01:08:57.000 Exactly.

01:08:57.000 Right?

01:08:58.000 Untreated was 50% mortality.

01:09:00.000 That's it.

01:09:02.000 And, you know, and that's the thing.

01:09:04.000 This is probably the time because I want to say a couple of things about Dr. Katagiani and how we came across him and his work.

01:09:10.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:09:11.000 He has just this incredible CV of in COVID.

01:09:15.000 Not only, and I like how he started out by saying he didn't actually think these repurposed early treatment drugs worked.

01:09:20.000 He looked at the data, he did an observational trial.

01:09:22.000 It's a really, really cool trial, and it's astounding what he found.

01:09:26.000 It was just this dramatic response.

01:09:28.000 Anyone who got early treatment did really, really well.

01:09:30.000 Anyone who didn't did really, really poorly.

01:09:33.000 And he knew that from early on.

01:09:35.000 And then he started doing research missions in the Amazonas during Gamma, and he started building a protocol.

01:09:41.000 It's very funny because when we started to talk, our protocols were different but the same.

01:09:46.000 They were combination therapies.

01:09:47.000 We were using different, trying to go after the same pathophysiological medicinisms.

01:09:51.000 But one of his great contributions was the identification of sort of the contribution of sex hormones to outcomes.

01:10:01.000 So testosterone, particularly the androgens.

01:10:04.000 It was noticed from early on in like, I think, April of 2020, there's a report.

01:10:07.000 I can't remember what country, but they noticed for it was in Spain, right?

01:10:11.000 Yeah, they noticed that almost all the men on the ventilators in ISU were all bald.

01:10:16.000 And bald is angiogenic alopecia.

01:10:19.000 It's a higher, those are generally men with higher levels of the more active form of testosterone.

01:10:24.000 So they noticed this odd pattern that everyone on the vents dying was bald.

01:10:29.000 And so Dr. Katagiani and his group has numbers of papers and trials showing that if you manipulate the level of testosterone and you block it, it led to much greater outcomes.

01:10:42.000 And that was kind of like his trick to beat Gamma.

01:10:45.000 And Gamma was killing everybody.

01:10:47.000 And he started using very, very powerful androgen blockers.

01:10:51.000 And he did this testosterone block.

01:10:53.000 Testosterone blocks.

01:10:54.000 Short term therapy.

01:10:55.000 Short term.

01:10:56.000 Short term therapy.

01:10:57.000 Short term.

01:10:57.000 And so never heard that.

01:10:59.000 His trial, though, so the day that his trial got, and I didn't know his, I just knew, you know, I had known of him because I knew he was a researcher on ivermectin.

01:11:06.000 And I was working with Andrew Hill.

01:11:09.000 Andrew Hill talked about you.

01:11:10.000 So I knew of you through those circles.

01:11:12.000 But then, you know, we heard about this drug called proxalutamide, which is this really potent drug that controls prostate cancer.

01:11:21.000 You know, one of the treatments for prostate cancer is hormone suppression, right?

01:11:24.000 Yes.

01:11:24.000 Testosterone drives.

01:11:25.000 So it's a very powerful one.

01:11:27.000 And Dr. Katagiani went to the company and said he would trial it.

01:11:32.000 And what I really like when you talk about integrity, intelligence, and bravery, from the beginning, Dr. Katagiani, when he did that research for that company, this is a novel agent, high potency.

01:11:44.000 Obviously, the company would love to have it be effective in COVID and make big time money.

01:11:49.000 He made an agreement that they would have to sell it for cheap if he found efficacy.

01:11:53.000 I have this paper.

01:11:54.000 There are such ethical men left, right?

01:11:57.000 And the paper is astounding.

01:12:00.000 It's in the Gamma Varin Bozilla double-blind multicenter placebo-controlled randomized control trial, large.

01:12:06.000 And they showed that in the control group, it was 49% mortality.

01:12:11.000 And that was even with some treatments in the control group.

01:12:14.000 And then you got it down, they got it down to about 11%.

01:12:16.000 This is against GAM with a very powerful term.

01:12:18.000 And they couldn't say that we did it artificially because the mortality rate in the states where we conducted the trial during that period was above 50% or in hospital mortality.

01:12:28.000 Wow.

01:12:29.000 Yeah.

01:12:29.000 And that is an incredible mortality.

01:12:32.000 Above 50% mortality.

01:12:34.000 And did you hear about this in the world media, how successful this trial was?

01:12:37.000 No.

01:12:38.000 No.

01:12:38.000 I mean, there's a coincidence there.

01:12:41.000 There's the same drug class calls enzalodomide because the drug, the therapy would cost $11.

01:12:47.000 And the same drug class calls enzalodomide that Pfizer has would cost like $5,000 only.

01:12:54.000 Competitive competitor.

01:12:55.000 And there's another point.

01:12:56.000 Pfizer cannot use it for COVID.

01:12:58.000 They can only use it.

01:13:00.000 It's for a company called Australis.

01:13:02.000 And Pfizer can only use it for prostate cancer.

01:13:04.000 So they tried to undermine the drug.

01:13:06.000 So they faked a trial in Sweden that we discovered.

01:13:09.000 Our letter to the editor was accepted to publish.

01:13:13.000 They faked it data.

01:13:14.000 They faked a trial in order to destroy the therapy.

01:13:18.000 This is what they did.

01:13:20.000 And it's, you know, when.

01:13:22.000 There's a lot of different factors.

01:13:23.000 Just another question.

01:13:24.000 When we were at war with the Axis powers, there was an urgency where if anyone had a good idea to make something new or deadly, like present it.

01:13:37.000 And there were a lot of entrepreneurs that were like pitching stuff to the U.S. government, right?

01:13:40.000 So when we had this kind of national fabric social contract back in 1941 and 42, where it's like, yeah, I can convert my, you know, I don't know, my sewing factory to go make uniforms.

01:13:51.000 Or, you know, I think this could be really effective.

01:13:54.000 And there was almost, there was such an open-mindedness by the U.S. government in the 1940s, like we don't want to get invaded by Japan or bombed by the Nazis.

01:14:02.000 You would think, and I just, it reminded me, because I've done a lot of study about that period of time in the business sector and how they were immediately on board to fight the Axis.

01:14:11.000 It's the opposite.

01:14:11.000 You would think that when you have a bunch of people dying, you'd be open-minded to every possible treatment.

01:14:16.000 You'd go out.

01:14:16.000 You'd be like, oh, yeah, that could help us storm the beach and that could help us, you know, and that's where you get innovations.

01:14:22.000 But instead, it's been the exact opposite, right?

01:14:25.000 And to your historical analogy, Patton would say, look, if everybody's thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking alike.

01:14:30.000 He wanted people coming with alternate ideas.

01:14:30.000 That's right.

01:14:33.000 How are you going to win the campaign?

01:14:34.000 How are you going to get through this battle?

01:14:36.000 Could you imagine Pfizer running the World War II implementation?

01:14:41.000 So the delusional issue is only though.

01:14:42.000 And the Pfizer is actively searching tomorrow and we'll present some data on how Pfizer is actively attacking those who are treating their plans.

01:14:52.000 I'm a very skeptical person.

01:14:54.000 So for me to say this, I'm extremely aware of that.

01:14:57.000 You mean like using black using black propaganda and stuff like that? 0.99

01:15:01.000 It's more complex.

01:15:03.000 The number of ways they used in order to destroy what is threatening there is huge.

01:15:09.000 So I want to talk about that.

01:15:11.000 On your point, you're just bringing back memories of my former self.

01:15:16.000 Earlier on the pandemic, I literally, I was like, you know, when I talk about when I finished my review paper on ivermectin and I posted on a preprint streamer, I was like literally trembling because I really thought we could end the pandemic with this drug.

01:15:29.000 And I envisioned like a Marshall process.

01:15:32.000 Like the government just coming in, you know, mass producing, co-opting factories, you know, my dreams of, you know, every cupboard having ivermectin, and, you know, like, that's where I was.

01:15:42.000 You mean like they did in Utah Pardee?

01:15:45.000 And now I'm Utah Pardash.

01:15:46.000 Or there was a province in Brazil that did a mass ivermectin campaign.

01:15:50.000 His study.

01:15:50.000 That was his study.

01:15:51.000 That was your study.

01:15:52.000 Okay, well, we're all together then.

01:15:55.000 But there are some other stories in Brazil, in some cities, like in the Amazon during this outbreak.

01:16:00.000 I have to say, it's a very cool story.

01:16:03.000 Tell the story.

01:16:04.000 So we were conducting the study this Amazon.

01:16:06.000 So all the cities were over.

01:16:08.000 The Amazon.

01:16:08.000 Yeah, the Amazon.

01:16:09.000 There's a state called Amazona, which is right in the middle of the Amazon rainforest.

01:16:13.000 It's not where I live.

01:16:15.000 And does anyone live there?

01:16:16.000 Or people live there?

01:16:18.000 In the middle of the Amazon?

01:16:19.000 Yeah, we do.

01:16:21.000 They're not terrorism.

01:16:22.000 I drink a lot of tonic.

01:16:23.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:16:24.000 We did my mosquitoes for 20 seconds.

01:16:27.000 Yeah, by the way, we used hydroxychloroquine prophylaxically for many years to go on.

01:16:32.000 I'm sure.

01:16:35.000 Everyone was familiarized with your breast diseases. 0.99

01:16:38.000 I mean, yeah, anyway.

01:16:39.000 So what terrifies me is that we are familiarized with tropical diseases and the spreading use of hydroxychloroquine, for example.

01:16:46.000 Now it became dangerous.

01:16:48.000 Well, anyway, so we were there and every city we were going and during gamma, this is during gamma.

01:16:54.000 There was this gamma highly lethal.

01:16:56.000 By the way, if the U.S. had gamma inside here, they calculated that it would have right by now more than 1.5 million deaths.

01:17:05.000 Okay?

01:17:05.000 I will show this tomorrow.

01:17:06.000 But it still could come or no, that's probably out of the cards.

01:17:09.000 No, no, it's out of the cards because it's too strong.

01:17:11.000 So it's burned out.

01:17:13.000 We went to all the cities were like having dozens of deaths per day.

01:17:17.000 And then we arrived to the city.

01:17:19.000 And then the health secretary from the city with the city mayor followed us.

01:17:23.000 And then we went to the hospital and there was nobody at the hospital.

01:17:26.000 And the city was in the middle of the.

01:17:28.000 And then I said, goodness, what is happening here?

01:17:30.000 Is that everybody dead or nobody's coming here?

01:17:33.000 And then she called me.

01:17:34.000 And then after the visit, I said, okay, we cannot conduct the trial here.

01:17:38.000 We actually, in the beginning, we submitted the city as being part of the trial.

01:17:44.000 But then, in the end, I said to her, look, we cannot conduct the trial because this situation is either too good or too bad.

01:17:51.000 And she said, can I talk to you in particular?

01:17:53.000 I said, yeah, of course.

01:17:56.000 Please don't judge me with what I'm going to tell you now, but we distributed ivermectin through the city.

01:18:03.000 And what city was this?

01:18:04.000 It's called Corey.

01:18:06.000 I think we covered this one, didn't we, Connor?

01:18:08.000 Yeah, we covered your study at length.

01:18:09.000 But this isn't this is a story.

01:18:13.000 No, this is just a story.

01:18:14.000 No, this is the same thing.

01:18:14.000 But the data on the Amazon.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, but the data in the graph is clear.

01:18:18.000 I think I showed it once.

01:18:19.000 Yeah.

01:18:20.000 So, but the thing is, but just another huge question.

01:18:22.000 He's traveling throughout during Gamma, massive lethalities, hospitals overwhelmed, running out of oxygen, everyone dying.

01:18:31.000 And he comes to this one city.

01:18:33.000 He's going through, they're recruiting people into trials.

01:18:35.000 And in this one study, the hospitals are quiet.

01:18:38.000 They're not very full.

01:18:40.000 And he can't figure out why everywhere around in the Amazon is absolutely death and destruction.

01:18:45.000 And the health minister later, you know, she was embarrassed because she thought they would judge him, you know, the big city doctors.

01:18:51.000 And she tells them that we've been distributing ivermectin to the city's residents for weeks.

01:18:57.000 I totally believe it.

01:18:58.000 And it's a good segue to another couple topics I do want to cover, including the domestic terrorist thing, which is very interesting.

01:19:04.000 Great to meet you to me.

01:19:05.000 Yeah, thanks.

01:19:06.000 I've been on that list for a while.

01:19:08.000 So, I mean, welcome to the program here, right?

01:19:12.000 So, that's one part of it.

01:19:13.000 I want to kind of get into it, but like, I think this is a good segue to something they're trying to push right now: the Pfizer pill.

01:19:22.000 So, they stand to make $57 billion off of this.

01:19:26.000 Somehow, now all of a sudden, having a pill in your pocket is a good idea, even though ivermectin and all this other stuff.

01:19:30.000 What's wrong with it?

01:19:31.000 Paxlobin, it's a protease inhibitor, but in order to make it work, you have to turn off another protease inhibitor.

01:19:37.000 What does that mean?

01:19:38.000 So, when the virus replicates, you make this long string of proteins, and in order to reassemble it into a virus, you have to clip it in a bunch of places.

01:19:45.000 That's a little enzyme, it's like a little scissor. 0.85

01:19:47.000 But if you can block the scissor, then the virus can't be clipped and reassemble itself.

01:19:51.000 So, that's the concept.

01:19:52.000 Ironically, ivermectin is a phenomenal protease inhibitor, but it also has 19 other mechanisms.

01:19:58.000 If you have a protease inhibitor, it's a one-trick pony.

01:20:01.000 Viruses will mutate around it.

01:20:04.000 So, they combined it with an HIV med in order to make it work.

01:20:08.000 That HIV medicine has a black box warning, can cause liver damage, can cause organ failure, can cause toxicity.

01:20:16.000 So, they have this magical protease inhibitor from the trash heap of scientific history.

01:20:22.000 These are old drugs, recycled up.

01:20:24.000 You just change one little chemical, now you've got a new task, now you can make billions.

01:20:28.000 It's worse than that, yeah.

01:20:29.000 What's even worse as a clinician?

01:20:31.000 I use you know, as an ICU doctor, I mean, I use dozens, if not 100 drugs in my career.

01:20:37.000 I cannot recall a drug with this degree and number of side effects and drug interactions.

01:20:46.000 It plays well with almost no drug.

01:20:49.000 This is an absurdity.

01:20:50.000 This is like I, my wife works still at the university that I used to be the chief at, and um, she told me that one of their protocols is if you're going to use Paxlova, you got to stop all the other meds.

01:21:03.000 This drug runs with scissors and does not play with LOLs.

01:21:06.000 It runs with scissors, can't play with other children.

01:21:09.000 I mean, just can we just finish on Paxlovin?

01:21:11.000 Because I will tell you, I will never prescribe that to anyone anymore.

01:21:14.000 Yeah, and anyone who does has to be reckless.

01:21:16.000 I'm glad we said that because they're trying to use that as this next phase to try to make a bunch of money.

01:21:21.000 A lot of doctors are going to prescribe it.

01:21:23.000 But here's to the point: if it works as well as they say, statistically, then they have to end the vaccines yesterday.

01:21:29.000 That's a great point, right?

01:21:30.000 Because if you look at the EUA that says if there's a drug that works for COVID, then the vaccines cannot be.

01:21:37.000 But Pfizer's not dumb, they've been doing this for 100 years.

01:21:41.000 They're going to bait and switch it.

01:21:42.000 Just as a reminder, they called me too good to be true when I showed this data reducing by 77% and the mortality rates.

01:21:51.000 Eric DuPaul from Science called me like that and he blocked me right away without any right away on social media right after they published this Holznest news story.

01:22:03.000 And now it comes with something with 89% reduction mortality rate and he says nothing.

01:22:09.000 It's very weird what is happening.

01:22:11.000 Yeah.

01:22:11.000 So that ties into something.

01:22:17.000 Pfizer Pill, we know they don't play by the rules because they write the rules into what was, in my opinion, something that was one of the most slanderous black propaganda campaigns I've ever seen, which was the hit on Joe Rogan. 0.81

01:22:30.000 Yeah.

01:22:31.000 And so Joe Rogan is a guy that likes to smoke weed, talk with his friends about aliens, and have a bunch of comedians on.

01:22:38.000 Well, a lot of intellectuals and a lot of stuff.

01:22:40.000 So of course, and I'm not, I'm actually a Joe Rogan fan.

01:22:43.000 I'm sure you are, yeah.

01:22:44.000 But I am saying that it's hardly, you know, 60 minutes.

01:22:48.000 However, he did have a reach that was so unbelievable.

01:22:50.000 Had Dr. Malone on, had Dr. McCullough on, moved the Overton window so successfully, right?

01:22:56.000 And they start with these kind of COVID misinformation labels that you have to go talk to your doctor, blah, And then they go into this whole thing with the N-word and all that.

01:23:04.000 What are your thoughts on just kind of the Rogan smear?

01:23:07.000 So can I say one thing?

01:23:08.000 So the smear and the way they did it, I want to bring back to everything's about the timing, right?

01:23:13.000 So we talked about the timing of them taking the defense database offline to fix this anomaly, right?

01:23:20.000 I talk about the timing of that PR campaign against Ivermectin, right?

01:23:25.000 It just so happened to occur on a week when there was a skyrocketing in the number of prescriptions of ivermectin.

01:23:31.000 Let's talk about what happened to Joe.

01:23:33.000 What's the timing there?

01:23:35.000 You know, like Brett Weinstein had a tweet the other week where he said, you know, looks like, you know, they pulled this out.

01:23:41.000 You know, this footage has been around forever.

01:23:43.000 Of course.

01:23:44.000 This was a.

01:23:44.000 So this came out because what Brett was saying is Joe was over the target.

01:23:48.000 You know, he's getting too close, getting too big.

01:23:51.000 And this is the, this is just, this is the same thing.

01:23:55.000 I think that's exactly right.

01:23:57.000 And I think that as Joe started to speak out about this, did the unexpected video about Ivermectin back in September, started to dance in this, all of a sudden, a opposition file was created on Joe.

01:24:08.000 And everyone knew he said these things before.

01:24:09.000 And by the way, he didn't even say it.

01:24:10.000 He was quoting other people saying it.

01:24:12.000 Who cares, right?

01:24:12.000 He's a comedian and all that.

01:24:14.000 It's completely irrelevant.

01:24:16.000 But they say instead, like, now we're going to resurrect this and get everyone really mad again to try to either discredit him or put him in his place.

01:24:25.000 Kind of as a warning shot.

01:24:27.000 Stay off our, you know.

01:24:28.000 Yeah, this is the problem: there is no dialogue left in our nation.

01:24:33.000 If this were truly a pandemic, we would be sitting here with four people thinking differently.

01:24:38.000 We would be having dialogue.

01:24:39.000 We would come up with solutions.

01:24:40.000 It would be like Grand Rounds of Old, where we're talking about anything and everything.

01:24:44.000 Everybody can be right or wrong.

01:24:45.000 And someone from the top of the tower would be here.

01:24:47.000 Not us outcasts.

01:24:49.000 No, not the outcasts, not the ragtag futures. 0.98

01:24:51.000 And that's the thing is that, you know, I have said to my team, and we have tried, I want any one of these people on my show, and I'm just going to ask them questions.

01:25:00.000 And they can argue from authority, and I'll just dismiss that.

01:25:04.000 I just want some answers to some questions.

01:25:05.000 Sure.

01:25:06.000 They will refuse.

01:25:07.000 They won't come.

01:25:08.000 Yeah, we've invited them.

01:25:09.000 We've invited them.

01:25:10.000 I mean, Steve Kirsch won't stop doing this.

01:25:13.000 You know what Steve Kirsch is?

01:25:14.000 We're having on the show in a couple days.

01:25:16.000 So, Steve, if you've seen Steve, Steve has offered one in $2 million on a weekly basis to almost anyone in government and academia to come out and debate and share data and discuss data on the vaccines.

01:25:27.000 And he can't get anyone to take a million dollars.

01:25:30.000 He just wants them to show up.

01:25:31.000 That goes to show that they consider pride to be more valuable than money.

01:25:35.000 It's an interesting thing.

01:25:36.000 Because in this nation, they don't know how to say it on this planet.

01:25:39.000 That's true.

01:25:40.000 You said in this nation, I said in this country.

01:25:42.000 In the planet, yeah.

01:25:43.000 It's the same everywhere.

01:25:44.000 And so that's an interesting point from Brazil, which is Brazil has its own problems.

01:25:51.000 You have a global perspective.

01:25:52.000 I will say, though, despite our shortcomings, America still has a little bit more of a kind of freedom perspective on this, thanks to states' rights and others.

01:26:01.000 Do you agree with that?

01:26:02.000 Or do you think it's just as bad?

01:26:03.000 Like, no difference, Brazil, America, they're all the same.

01:26:06.000 Yeah, for medical doctors, we had a little advantage because in Brazil.

01:26:10.000 Yeah, because the president of the Brazilian board of medical doctors was very strong maintaining our autonomy in prescription.

01:26:22.000 In the most he said, as he said, such under uncertain times and uncertain data, we cannot shape exactly what doctors will prescribe because this is a time where things are most uncertain.

01:26:39.000 How can we be so certain about things when science is so uncertain?

01:26:44.000 So, this safety profile that is sold for the vaccines, who's gonna say that in such a so certain way when you have lack of data in the long term.

01:26:56.000 So, the certainties that all this certain that is anything but reliable.

01:27:02.000 So, that's for this reason, he allowed doctors to provide their patients reports whether when they cannot be vaccinated, drugs that they need it, regardless.

01:27:15.000 So, for this autonomy, so you have a lot of exemptions in Brazil, like that's a thing you can get medical exemptions, medical freedom to give the exemptions because we don't know the actual exemptions.

01:27:26.000 So, so people can be free from co-worker vaccines fairly easily because here's the problem now.

01:27:32.000 It's fighting because here it's been impossible, but it's a nerve fight, I know.

01:27:36.000 It's of course because the pharma would never allow that without fighting back.

01:27:41.000 Can I bring up an ironic point with Joe Rogan?

01:27:43.000 So, Merck's Molnu Pirivir, which is worse than placebo, is actually made.

01:27:49.000 I mean, it's mutagenic, but it was made against an alpha virus, and it was made for Eastern equine encephalitis, which is a virus that affects horses.

01:28:00.000 Molnu Pirivir.

01:28:02.000 It's a horse drug.

01:28:03.000 It's an actual horse drug.

01:28:04.000 It's literally a horse drug.

01:28:06.000 It literally is a horse drug.

01:28:07.000 So, I just, the irony with Joe Rogan, you don't hear that there.

01:28:10.000 Because of Brazil, if you remove the data from Brazil in the trial, you have no efficacy at all.

01:28:16.000 So, Molnu Pirivir in all the countries that they studied, it was only effective in GAMA, only showed efficacy in one time in one country, which is Brazil and Gamma, and everywhere else it failed.

01:28:26.000 And then, you know, and Molnu Pirvir, which is approved by the FDA, even India, which is a very corrupt country, pharma, you know, all through there, they canceled their order of Molnu Piravir.

01:28:38.000 Just like the WHO, oddly, somehow, I guess Gilead didn't give as much money as Bill Gates, but the WHO does not recommend remdesivir since November of 2020.

01:28:48.000 But here it's the standard of care, right?

01:28:50.000 Is it still?

01:28:51.000 It was still the standard of care.

01:28:53.000 And hospitals can be a very good idea.

01:28:53.000 You go to a hospital.

01:28:55.000 You go to a hospital, you get rentesvir.

01:28:56.000 20% bonus.

01:28:57.000 You can use remdesivir here.

01:28:59.000 Yeah.

01:28:59.000 20% bonus to the hospital bill.

01:29:01.000 I know people that went to the hospital that were doing okay and took a turn for a worse.

01:29:05.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:06.000 But I also know people that didn't go to the hospital and actually were able to turn the corner very effectively.

01:29:11.000 So I want to get to the domestic terrorist thing. 0.51

01:29:13.000 And then there's a couple of other smaller things I'm just kind of curious about.

01:29:17.000 And I want to close with kind of just where we are from a population standpoint perspective on this stuff, which I think is the business you guys are all in, right?

01:29:26.000 And I want to close on that because I actually think it's some optimism there.

01:29:29.000 But domestic terrorists, I mean, so now you're like Timothy McVeigh or something.

01:29:33.000 So, you know, I think I overused the word absurdity and obscenity, but they're not enough.

01:29:40.000 They're not enough.

01:29:41.000 They're not strong enough to describe the times that we're in.

01:29:44.000 So I read this domestic, this memo from domestic Security, yeah.

01:29:50.000 And they're literally, they're literally linking free speech with terrorism.

01:29:57.000 So, someone exercising their First Amendment rights in this space, and they were a little vague on the space.

01:30:04.000 They do mention COVID.

01:30:06.000 I don't know that they mentioned vaccine specifically.

01:30:08.000 They didn't mention it.

01:30:09.000 COVID-19 misinformation.

01:30:10.000 We did a whole show on it.

01:30:11.000 We could pull it up, Connor.

01:30:12.000 I think we could put it up.

01:30:13.000 It's, I think, deliberately vague, right?

01:30:15.000 They don't call it vaccine.

01:30:17.000 It's very opaque.

01:30:18.000 It's very cryptic almost.

01:30:21.000 When I read it, I feel like my government, you know, I'm just a guy, a physician who's literally trying to do what I've volunteered to devote my life to, which is the care of patients, to learn to be the best doctor I can, and to teach, you know, being a doctor is a teacher.

01:30:39.000 And I've devoted my life to teaching medicine.

01:30:41.000 Now I don't have a position in an academic institution, but I try to teach lay people now.

01:30:46.000 I try to share that knowledge.

01:30:48.000 And to wake up one morning and to find out that they're essentially calling me a domestic terrorist as a teacher for trying to.

01:30:58.000 I went to bed as a teacher, and I woke up a domestic terrorist.

01:31:02.000 So do you have any other words besides absurdity and obscenities?

01:31:06.000 Corruption.

01:31:07.000 Yeah, it's dangerous.

01:31:08.000 It's corruption.

01:31:09.000 It's falsity.

01:31:10.000 And it's atrocious.

01:31:10.000 Atrocity.

01:31:11.000 I hate to say this, but for those of us that have really studied, like Alexander Solshenit, said, it's predictable.

01:31:16.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:31:17.000 And that's the deeper point.

01:31:18.000 And I was shocked by it, I'll be honest.

01:31:20.000 But in America.

01:31:22.000 Yeah, and it's not the country I grew up in.

01:31:24.000 And that's why I'm interested, Dr. Corey, if I could just follow up on one thing, which is, you know, I don't want to politicize this, but you were on maybe the other side or whatever.

01:31:32.000 But it's just like, I just want you to talk a little bit about the last two years of how, you know, you look at things differently because of all this in institutions.

01:31:39.000 I'm just really curious about this.

01:31:41.000 So, I mean, you know, maybe I've mentioned before, right?

01:31:43.000 But, you know, I'm a New York City liberal traditionally, right?

01:31:46.000 And I still have some beliefs in some of the liberal structures of government and a little bit about tax fairness and things like that.

01:31:52.000 I think we might actually agree with that.

01:31:53.000 Yeah, I'm sure we probably do.

01:31:55.000 But when you go to the parties, you know, the Democratic Party just started getting too crazy.

01:31:59.000 And what happened in COVID is they, I mean, they've propagated so much of these injurious policies.

01:32:10.000 And I found myself that because of my opinions, now science is not politics.

01:32:16.000 It shouldn't be political.

01:32:17.000 But because the right is, I think, more naturally inclined to question government and to question, especially big government, if you were in a position when you started questioning the policies being conducted by the government, you were getting things correct.

01:32:33.000 And, you know, the right kept getting things correct.

01:32:37.000 And because our contrarian opinions, which are database and scientifically driven, were against the government, suddenly I found that most of our closest allies were on the right.

01:32:48.000 So people now think I'm a Republican or whatever it is.

01:32:50.000 Oh, and I'm not saying that at all.

01:32:51.000 No, but political ideology.

01:32:53.000 No, yeah, of course.

01:32:54.000 Of course it does.

01:32:55.000 But that's where, you know, so that's one transformation is, and I'm going to tell you a couple of interesting things.

01:33:01.000 So there was a time, probably two years ago, when I was like a Bible-thumping New York, like a New York, you know, the New York Times was my Bible. 0.60

01:33:10.000 Okay.

01:33:10.000 You read backwards on the Torah?

01:33:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:33:13.000 You know, I did the whole thing every day.

01:33:15.000 That's how you started the opinion, and you went backwards.

01:33:18.000 I'm embarrassed to admit it, Charlie.

01:33:21.000 But that's where I was, right?

01:33:23.000 I literally believed there was a truth.

01:33:24.000 And there was a time where I did two years ago.

01:33:27.000 Maybe a little bit more, no, more than two years ago.

01:33:29.000 I did not think I could be in a room with a Republican.

01:33:32.000 That's how, that's how bad I was.

01:33:35.000 All right, let's cut off of that for a second.

01:33:37.000 I think that's really interesting.

01:33:39.000 And so, so, and then I had a line I told a friend.

01:33:43.000 I told a friend of mine this line the other night, and she really loved it.

01:33:47.000 I've repeated it since.

01:33:48.000 I said, you know, I used to hate Republicans like liberals hate the unvaccinated. 0.99

01:33:57.000 Literally, it's very true.

01:33:59.000 But hold on, let me just finish a more positive.

01:34:01.000 And so one of those trans, because you asked me about transformations, right?

01:34:04.000 So I had that kind of ideology, you know, and now I now have two years of this beautiful and wide network of people largely from the right side of the political spectrum, conservatives, but all different stripes and types, credible, intelligent, insightful, you know, lovely people.

01:34:26.000 I have just, you know, from a guy who didn't think I could be in the same room as a Republican to now having like this massive network of friends.

01:34:34.000 And then, and the other thing is like my old friends, my phone, it doesn't ring very often.

01:34:42.000 And so like, that's been a transformation for me.

01:34:44.000 But I have like a new family.

01:34:45.000 And, you know, I don't think we believe we agree on everything politically for sure.

01:34:51.000 We don't.

01:34:52.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:34:53.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter.

01:34:54.000 But then you realize that.

01:34:56.000 So it's been an enlightenment to me in making connections with people and finding out that I can make connections and it doesn't have to be on a political agreement basis.

01:35:06.000 You know, you can just be friends with humans and they're intelligent and all that.

01:35:10.000 And so it's been a real, that's been one of the big transformations.

01:35:14.000 And then the other is that like, I don't know if it's the right word, but I just feel like a broken doctor because, or I feel like medicine's broken and I don't know where I am anymore.

01:35:24.000 Like because of all that disinformation stuff, like I just, I can't even read a medical journal anymore.

01:35:30.000 I can't read a newspaper anymore.

01:35:32.000 And like I don't know who to trust, what to believe.

01:35:34.000 And, you know, the only people I trust are like experts at sniffing out data, analyzing data, and they analyze and conclude, and they don't have any conflicts of interest.

01:35:44.000 I cannot listen to anyone with a conflict of interest because they just can't be trusted.

01:35:49.000 And I'm sure there are trustworthy people, definitely are trustworthy people working all through academia.

01:35:55.000 But it's just that the journal, what appears in journals is what they allow to appear in journals.

01:35:59.000 And I'm just, I don't know what to do anymore.

01:36:02.000 This is a major change that needs to happen.

01:36:07.000 We need to highlight the conflict of interest in the journals.

01:36:11.000 So nowadays, I trust more in preprint than published papers, actually.

01:36:15.000 Yeah, the preprints.

01:36:16.000 Oh, preprints.

01:36:17.000 Preprints are definitely more so.

01:36:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:19.000 Yeah, that's a good thing.

01:36:20.000 The only point is those who complain about preprints, the only thing they do is they are admitting that they're not able to read an article because they want the things ready.

01:36:28.000 So when you have the preprint, the only difference is that you need to analyze the paper.

01:36:33.000 Yeah, it's, you know, to Dr. Corey's point, and in most of my thinking, most of life is nuanced.

01:36:39.000 This virus isn't red, blue, purple.

01:36:41.000 It's not political.

01:36:42.000 To your point, it's humanitarian.

01:36:44.000 And, you know, I wore the uniform.

01:36:46.000 I vowed to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

01:36:50.000 To watch our government now become the foreign, the enemy's domestic. 0.97

01:36:55.000 And they call you a domestic.

01:36:56.000 And they call me.

01:36:56.000 I mean, but this is the Orwellian aspect of it.

01:36:59.000 Our goal is to make Orwell fiction again because it is not.

01:37:03.000 And to have them flip the script on us when all we are doing is sharing data.

01:37:08.000 They don't define their MDM, misinformation, disinformation, malinformation.

01:37:12.000 They don't define it.

01:37:13.000 That's all part of their communist Marxist plan.

01:37:17.000 That's how you manipulate words.

01:37:19.000 It is the news speak, et cetera.

01:37:21.000 We watch it.

01:37:22.000 And all he has done, all I have done, all he has done is try to save lives.

01:37:28.000 And they're coming after us for saving lives and honoring that word doctor, which means teacher.

01:37:36.000 All we want to do is teach.

01:37:37.000 Dr. Constantine.

01:37:38.000 I remember I am being accused of humanity.

01:37:41.000 He's on the list.

01:37:43.000 On the list.

01:37:44.000 Brazilian lives.

01:37:47.000 What is it?

01:37:49.000 International Court of What?

01:37:50.000 International Court of Human Rights.

01:37:52.000 But Bolsonaro doesn't believe that about you, does he?

01:37:55.000 No, not Bolsonaro.

01:37:57.000 I was going to say.

01:37:58.000 No, no.

01:37:59.000 I tell him that's the case.

01:37:59.000 But exactly.

01:38:00.000 No, exactly because he does not believe that everybody did the opposite against him.

01:38:06.000 Forgot it.

01:38:07.000 So being accused of crime against humanity in the same document, in the same documents where I prove that I saved lives.

01:38:17.000 So they joined together.

01:38:19.000 Are they trying you in The Hague?

01:38:20.000 Yeah.

01:38:22.000 And see, this is what's happening to all of us.

01:38:24.000 It's like the insurance companies are coming after.

01:38:26.000 So I've lost 30% on my business because of my unprofessional behavior for saving lives like him.

01:38:31.000 I lost it.

01:38:32.000 Yeah.

01:38:32.000 So we're losing insurance contracts.

01:38:34.000 They're going after our licenses and boards.

01:38:38.000 And we're all losing money in the middle of the year.

01:38:40.000 500,000 patients in my career.

01:38:42.000 Not a single patient complained against me in my entire career.

01:38:46.000 500,000 patients I've diagnosed.

01:38:48.000 All these complaints are political and targeted, and there's money behind them.

01:38:52.000 There's entities behind them.

01:38:54.000 He is a humanitarian that should be on the list for a Nobel Prize.

01:38:58.000 He is a humanitarian that should be on the list for a Nobel Prize.

01:39:01.000 I agree.

01:39:02.000 And instead, we are public enemy, number one, for caring about our fellow human beings, no matter what your color, your height, your weight, your race, your ethnicity, your religion, whatever.

01:39:14.000 We are about to manage it.

01:39:16.000 What is the message they convey when they accuse somebody, someone, for saving lives as a crime against humanity?

01:39:24.000 What is the message it comes from?

01:39:26.000 Is that similar to someone who's exercising their First Amendment rights as a domestic terrorist?

01:39:31.000 Exactly.

01:39:33.000 They want you to be afraid.

01:39:33.000 So fear.

01:39:35.000 They do.

01:39:36.000 And you guys are a threat.

01:39:37.000 I mean, look, your work on vitamin D was prolific.

01:39:40.000 And I made the argument that if we had a robust vitamin D regimen, look at all the things that we could have prevented, right?

01:39:47.000 School closures, mask mandates, vaccine mandates, you know, learning curves that went down, alcoholism, suicide, fentanyl overdoses, drug overdoses, rise in crime.

01:39:56.000 All of it probably could have gone back if we had a vitamin D regimen.

01:39:59.000 I don't think that's an oversimplification.

01:40:01.000 From everything you've published, and I see vitamin D levels over 50, you know, you got a really good shot.

01:40:06.000 Never did a public health thing.

01:40:10.000 Don't mind my 3,000 patients that are treated the same thing.

01:40:10.000 In Brazil.

01:40:14.000 Not was a single person above 50 that had any complication.

01:40:19.000 Yeah, and so, but despite all of that and how you guys are labeled and you lose business and all of this, there are millions, tens of millions of people that are with you.

01:40:29.000 They might not know your name, many do, but they're with what you're fighting for.

01:40:32.000 And that's kind of where I want to close this conversation, which is we have the truckers in Canada that are doing everything they possibly can.

01:40:40.000 And I just love seeing the left not to politicize it all of a sudden be like against labor.

01:40:44.000 Like, really, that's interesting. 0.99

01:40:45.000 I thought that was like the whole shit, right? 1.00

01:40:47.000 Like workers do every night, unless you're a trucker. 1.00

01:40:49.000 Charlie, do you, do you, can we just have a stop for a little bit of a laugh?

01:40:54.000 How the CBC covered the country?

01:40:56.000 No, which is the Canadian Broadcast Corporation.

01:40:58.000 Right?

01:40:58.000 Canadian, you know, remember how they covered it?

01:41:01.000 That it was a protest against icy and dangerous roads in New York.

01:41:05.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:41:06.000 That's right.

01:41:07.000 I mean, I use absurdity and obscenity.

01:41:11.000 I mean, inanity.

01:41:12.000 It is so funny.

01:41:13.000 Well, this is happening in France.

01:41:15.000 There's a trucker convoy that looks like it's happening in America.

01:41:18.000 Can you talk about it?

01:41:19.000 I can talk about this.

01:41:20.000 Let's talk about it.

01:41:21.000 I was with the organizers just a couple days ago.

01:41:23.000 I'm not going to say where, but in a distant place putting together the plans.

01:41:28.000 The People's Convoy is coming.

01:41:29.000 We're going to start in California at Coachella.

01:41:31.000 We're going to have a great concert.

01:41:32.000 There's going to be doctors.

01:41:33.000 There's going to be presentations.

01:41:35.000 There's going to be musicians.

01:41:36.000 And the truckers are going to start there.

01:41:38.000 And they're going to roll thunder across America.

01:41:41.000 March 4th.

01:41:42.000 So, March 4th is the trucker rolling in.

01:41:42.000 Northern California.

01:41:45.000 March 5th is the big day.

01:41:47.000 March 6th, they're rolling.

01:41:48.000 You expect big numbers?

01:41:49.000 Oh, thousands.

01:41:50.000 Oh, and I think they're going to grow.

01:41:51.000 They're going to pick it up as they go.

01:41:53.000 Well, and that's the thing: is that if the Canadians can do it, you drive through Kansas, you're going to have a couple thousand, tens of thousands already.

01:42:00.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:42:00.000 Once you hit the heartland, that thing's going to grow with huge.

01:42:03.000 These are freedom-loving all walks of life, just like we were talking about.

01:42:07.000 Americans, salt of the earth.

01:42:09.000 They feed us, they're all peaceful Americans.

01:42:13.000 Peaceful, peaceful.

01:42:14.000 And I'm going to do a whole show on this Monday: I'm going to do a huge warning for federal government infiltration, provoking hate groups trying to get.

01:42:24.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:42:25.000 They want to make it happen.

01:42:26.000 The left is going to pay a bunch of people in masks over Confederate flags. 0.61

01:42:30.000 You have to be ready for this.

01:42:31.000 You guys know it, but they're going to try to discredit that at the gate.

01:42:34.000 Of course, that's operational.

01:42:35.000 That's called Cointelpro, for all of you that know the CIA.

01:42:38.000 The CIA files.

01:42:40.000 But I'm optimistic in one sense, and I love your guys's take.

01:42:44.000 I think people generally are starting to wake up.

01:42:46.000 They're getting sick of the mandate, sick of this sort of thing.

01:42:48.000 All of a sudden, when I say ivermectin in like a polite society, I don't get thrown out of the room.

01:42:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:42:54.000 Where people are kind of a little bit more open-minded about it.

01:42:57.000 The vitamin D conversation is definitely one that finally people are like, oh, yeah, that kind of makes sense.

01:43:01.000 Like, okay.

01:43:03.000 And you kind of see the rise of the citizen there.

01:43:05.000 Canada is a great example.

01:43:06.000 You're starting to see some mandates start to fall apart.

01:43:09.000 Not enough yet.

01:43:10.000 And I think more actually going to fall.

01:43:12.000 Australia is a police state.

01:43:13.000 New Zealand is still a police state.

01:43:15.000 But I'll start with you, Dr. Corey.

01:43:17.000 Are you optimistic?

01:43:18.000 Yeah, because come on, look at, you know, you just mentioned those regions in Canada, but look at the countries, right?

01:43:23.000 The European countries, they're increasing the number of days.

01:43:26.000 They're dropping not only masks, but everything, vaccine passports and mandates.

01:43:30.000 And so those numbers, it's got to keep rolling.

01:43:33.000 Now, the police states that are just really fortified, I mean, I don't know when they're going to fall, but I mean, you know, there is that domino effect.

01:43:42.000 I really believe that's going to happen here.

01:43:44.000 And because the truth is coming out.

01:43:47.000 You know, the truth is coming.

01:43:48.000 And I think that critical mass of people, you know, I didn't know that I was starting a grassroots movement.

01:43:53.000 I know we wanted to.

01:43:54.000 We knew that science was broken.

01:43:57.000 In some ways, it's later than I would have liked.

01:43:59.000 I would have liked to see this happen in July of last year.

01:44:01.000 But in some ways, it's better because the argument is so bulletproof.

01:44:06.000 It's like they've reached July last year.

01:44:08.000 I think that there would have been a little bit of like, oh, come on, like two years of this.

01:44:11.000 It's such a bulletproof argument.

01:44:14.000 And so, what's your opinion on that?

01:44:16.000 I'm optimistic as well.

01:44:17.000 I'm not content with just, oh, lower the mandates and give us this and that back.

01:44:22.000 I'm a constitutional American.

01:44:24.000 I love our Constitution.

01:44:25.000 I defended it, and I will to my dying breath.

01:44:28.000 And hopefully that's not anytime soon.

01:44:30.000 I'm not Epstein-esque suicidal.

01:44:32.000 So, but no, no, to that point, I'm optimistic that we are on the tail end of COVID.

01:44:39.000 It's endemic.

01:44:40.000 The science is bearing that out.

01:44:41.000 We know how to treat it from these brilliant gentlemen we've known all along.

01:44:46.000 So we can still treat it in its endemic levels.

01:44:49.000 We need to end the emergency powers and go back to our pure and supreme constitutional Bill of Rights.

01:44:59.000 In all the countries in Brazil.

01:45:01.000 All the countries we need to go back to.

01:45:02.000 There is no emergency.

01:45:04.000 And you can be on the right side of history or the wrong side of history. 0.73

01:45:08.000 And I'm saying our political powers, our entities, this DHS junk is the wrong side of history.

01:45:15.000 And I say, join us no matter what stripe you are.

01:45:19.000 We are freedom-loving people of the world.

01:45:22.000 I'm optimistic that we're done.

01:45:24.000 Since we spoke, I am way more optimistic.

01:45:28.000 I really am.

01:45:28.000 I'm seeing it happen.

01:45:30.000 I'm seeing, you know, for example, at Turning Point USA, we're a constitutional organization.

01:45:34.000 We're a conservative organization.

01:45:36.000 But that's besides the point.

01:45:38.000 What I'm going to say.

01:45:38.000 We have 50 high schools in the servers of Chicago of our chapters that are walking out against mask mandates.

01:45:44.000 Good.

01:45:44.000 And you're starting to see the school boards really start to tremble.

01:45:47.000 And you know the area well.

01:45:48.000 You're from Madison.

01:45:50.000 You know it well.

01:45:51.000 And when that ground starts to shake a little bit, I'm talking about Stevenson High School.

01:45:55.000 I'm talking about VITAR.

01:45:56.000 I'm talking about LaSalle.

01:45:58.000 I'm talking about all of a sudden all these suburban schools in Chicago where these kids are walking out 300 at a time.

01:46:02.000 Good.

01:46:03.000 And totally.

01:46:06.000 Can you have a thought on the mask mandate thing, by the way?

01:46:08.000 Because that's like a thing with students.

01:46:10.000 Can you just give a little word to parents that are fighting against this, how right they are?

01:46:14.000 Do you know what I'm saying?

01:46:14.000 I just think it's a really important thing.

01:46:16.000 I'm 100% right.

01:46:17.000 Again, go to brownstone.org, 150 studies showing the inefficacy of masks.

01:46:22.000 They never have worked.

01:46:23.000 Countries that have used them have made their rates go up instead of down.

01:46:26.000 You've had higher infection rates where they've been more enforced.

01:46:30.000 You know, mosquito through a chain link fence, hand of sand through a chain link fence.

01:46:33.000 You've heard all the analogies.

01:46:35.000 Even the CDC finally came out and said, okay, yeah, cloth masks and surgical masks don't work.

01:46:40.000 They're peddling back everything they've been lying about.

01:46:43.000 So it's finally like, okay, they don't work.

01:46:46.000 If you're sick, stay home.

01:46:47.000 Duh.

01:46:48.000 Public health message.

01:46:49.000 It's like, why muzzle the children?

01:46:53.000 I mean, basically, what it says is you're not allowed to speak.

01:46:55.000 And it's communist.

01:46:56.000 That's what they do.

01:46:57.000 That's a great point.

01:46:58.000 They do in Europe in China. 0.69

01:47:00.000 They make you a non-identity non-entity by covering up.

01:47:03.000 They don't want your smile.

01:47:04.000 They will.

01:47:05.000 It's an NPC, which is a video game term.

01:47:07.000 It's a non-player character.

01:47:08.000 That's exactly right.

01:47:10.000 I actually haven't connected it.

01:47:11.000 I've danced around that.

01:47:12.000 It's such a smart point, which is that, yeah, they want you to feel physically you don't have First Amendment rights.

01:47:18.000 Like you do not have the ability to speak.

01:47:20.000 It's a muzzle. 1.00

01:47:21.000 No, the only thing I hate worse than wearing a mask, those stupid masks, is being told to wear a mask. 1.00

01:47:26.000 That has to stop, too. 1.00

01:47:28.000 Every time we travel everywhere and go, I'm being confused.

01:47:30.000 I'm freedom-loving people.

01:47:31.000 Keep my mask.

01:47:33.000 To your point, it's being told.

01:47:34.000 You know, if something scientific and works and we're allowed to see all the data and have informed consent, then I think people are going to look at it and say, I'll do that.

01:47:43.000 But if you tell me I have to do it, forget about it.

01:47:46.000 Yeah.

01:47:47.000 We had an outbreak of H3NT, the influenza.

01:47:51.000 The outbreak completely all season in Brazil.

01:47:55.000 Probably because we had mask mandates to now.

01:48:00.000 And the lack of exposure to pathogens in the long term may cause more harm than benefit.

01:48:06.000 So we had a very weird outbreak last December.

01:48:10.000 After the mask mandate.

01:48:11.000 Yeah, with more symptoms than COVID, actually.

01:48:13.000 Wow.

01:48:14.000 Of the flu.

01:48:14.000 Wow.

01:48:15.000 Interesting.

01:48:15.000 All right.

01:48:16.000 Let's go around the horn. 0.95

01:48:17.000 How can people support and follow you?

01:48:18.000 And then give some action items of what the citizen can do.

01:48:22.000 Yeah.

01:48:23.000 So first of all, so I have to always remember: you know, Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, FLCCC.net, we're an organization that develops the most effective treatment protocols for all phases of COVID.

01:48:37.000 And let's be clear: prevention, early treatment, hospital treatment, but most importantly, because we're going to see an epidemic of this, but long-haul COVID and post-vaccine injury.

01:48:45.000 We have protocols for all of that.

01:48:47.000 In the post-COVID era.

01:48:49.000 Yeah, just started the post-COVID era.

01:48:51.000 It's going to be an epidemic.

01:48:52.000 And so that's one thing.

01:48:53.000 The other thing is, you know, my new mission in life is, you know, I have a substack that I write on.

01:48:59.000 It's piercorey.substack.com.

01:49:02.000 And I am detailing every element and every action in this disinformation campaign by the pharmaceutical industry here at Cybermech.

01:49:10.000 And I think it's important that the public be aware of what's happened, how they operate, and that this stuff has to stop.

01:49:17.000 And so if you're interested, go to my sub stack, follow it.

01:49:21.000 And then what folks can do, again, on the health front, I would, you know, maybe I'll just go full circle.

01:49:26.000 You know, go to our protocols to give yourself agency for this illness to maintain health, protect health, particularly in COVID.

01:49:34.000 And then in the bigger picture, I got to tell you, I really think when you see the efficacy of the convoy, I mean, Ryan and I were talking about, I mean, a convoy is almost indefensible.

01:49:46.000 You can't defend yourself against a convoy of thousands of truckers.

01:49:50.000 I want people to come out with the flags.

01:49:52.000 I want them to come out. 1.00

01:49:53.000 No, we Americans have to do it bigger than shit. 1.00

01:49:56.000 Of course. 1.00

01:49:56.000 Oh, no, no, that's what I want to see. 1.00

01:49:58.000 I want to see the kickoff to be used.

01:49:59.000 I love it.

01:50:00.000 I mean, Washington was amazing.

01:50:01.000 I will never forget that day in my life.

01:50:02.000 It was a beautiful, beautiful day.

01:50:04.000 I think this is going to be way bigger.

01:50:05.000 This is going to be way bigger.

01:50:06.000 And I just want America to come out and let's end this thing. 1.00

01:50:09.000 I must say one thing.

01:50:10.000 From an outside perspective, it seems like the U.S. is one step for losing its heterogeneity in the world.

01:50:18.000 I think this is a unique opportunity to show the power of the country.

01:50:22.000 Yeah, and the leadership.

01:50:23.000 Exactly.

01:50:24.000 Let's take it back.

01:50:25.000 That's such a beautiful perspective.

01:50:26.000 It really is.

01:50:28.000 I think another important thing you're going to see is those of us who've been oppressed, you're going to see a lot of us running for office.

01:50:36.000 We're going to step into these things and never allow this to happen again.

01:50:40.000 Well, do you think that there could be a form of justice done with this?

01:50:44.000 I mean, you can talk about Nuremberg or all this stuff, but.

01:50:47.000 I think that the overreach and the depravity that we've spent a lot of this panel discussing, right?

01:50:53.000 I think that overreach, especially like when I talk about my sub-site, they've laid bare their methods, their rapaciousness.

01:51:02.000 It's obscene.

01:51:04.000 And I think it's now apparent.

01:51:05.000 You know, you're going to have, if you're talking really, Charlie, about the amount of people waking up and getting wise to this stuff, I think almost like Napoleon's foray into Russia, they've overextended themselves, and now we can catch them.

01:51:19.000 And my hopes are that not only Ryan runs, but other like-minded people run.

01:51:23.000 But there's also a lot of people in government right now who realize how broken that system is.

01:51:27.000 I mean, Ron Johnson's a leader on this.

01:51:29.000 He's amazing on this issue.

01:51:30.000 He's your senator now.

01:51:31.000 Yeah.

01:51:31.000 And, you know, the work that Ron wants to do, if that party goes back in power, my new party, no, it's not my new part.

01:51:40.000 I have tons of complaints with the Republican Party too.

01:51:42.000 No, no, but that party's the only party that entertains.

01:51:44.000 I will tell you, on this particular issue, I align really strongly with Ron.

01:51:48.000 I think his work has been singular on this.

01:51:51.000 And I really hope that we can somehow figure out a way to rewrite, restructure the way those agencies work.

01:51:59.000 And this is a pie-in-the-sky thing, but to somehow remove or mitigate this incredibly violent influence of the pharmaceutical industry.

01:52:07.000 I totally, I think that's really smart.

01:52:09.000 And I mean, look, it comes back to a betrayal of Article I where Congress totally abdicated its role to oversee these regulatory agencies.

01:52:17.000 And they just didn't do their job.

01:52:19.000 It takes oversight.

01:52:20.000 It takes checks and balances.

01:52:21.000 They should be having to hold funding hostage every year.

01:52:24.000 Come on, FDA, you got to come in.

01:52:25.000 Tell us what you're doing with this money.

01:52:26.000 Instead, it's blank check after blank check and continuing resolutions.

01:52:29.000 Good point.

01:52:30.000 And I think that's smart.

01:52:32.000 But we support the truckers.

01:52:34.000 We support the people that have been oppressed.

01:52:37.000 We continue to speak out with no fear.

01:52:41.000 And come what may, we are going to win.

01:52:46.000 I agree.

01:52:47.000 I think the higher frequency is going to win here.

01:52:49.000 And I think it's global and it's worldwide.

01:52:52.000 And you guys have been on such the leading charge.

01:52:54.000 Do you have any way that people can support you?

01:52:56.000 RCOLMD.com.

01:52:58.000 That's the letter R, Ryan, RCOLMD.com.

01:53:01.000 You know, some people have been helping me with my legal battles to try to get my insurance contracts back and fight against the board.

01:53:06.000 So I appreciate that.

01:53:08.000 And then my sub stack will be coming out on Monday as well.

01:53:12.000 So oh, I only have social media.

01:53:16.000 You don't have social media?

01:53:17.000 No, I do.

01:53:17.000 It's only social media.

01:53:18.000 I don't have a website.

01:53:19.000 I have one for my clinic.

01:53:21.000 He's part of the FLCCC.

01:53:22.000 So you support him, you support us.

01:53:25.000 Well, I want to thank you guys for what you're doing for Liberty.

01:53:28.000 And I think you bring up an important point, which is I think medical freedom, medical tyranny, the betrayal of our Constitution is the number one issue this year.

01:53:36.000 It is.

01:53:36.000 And it's the issue that impacts all these other issues.

01:53:38.000 They want us to talk about all this other Ukrainian borders or whatever stupid stuff. 0.99

01:53:42.000 It's like, you know what? 0.94

01:53:43.000 No, the whole civilization is hinging on whether or not we get this medical freedom, individual sovereignty, constitutional issue right.

01:53:50.000 It all hinges on it.

01:53:51.000 So I just want to thank you guys so much.

01:53:53.000 And I don't know what's going to come next.

01:53:55.000 People ask me all the time.

01:53:56.000 I do believe in the next couple of years, they're going to try to do another virus scare, which is why I think fixes and justice need to happen, right?

01:54:02.000 Fixes and justice.

01:54:03.000 We need a church and pike committee to get to the bottom of all this. 1.00

01:54:06.000 I'll tell you.

01:54:07.000 But yeah, you guys have been phenomenal.

01:54:08.000 Thank you so much.

01:54:09.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:54:10.000 You bet.

01:54:10.000 Appreciate it.

01:54:11.000 Thank you so much.

01:54:12.000 Thank you.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 12, 2022

Three Doctors Take On Bill Gates, Big Pharma and Destroy the COVID Fear Narrative

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