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00:01:19.000Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, backed by Popular Demand, our white coat summit, where we take your questions.
00:01:26.000We just have an unfiltered conversation about everything you're not supposed to talk about: medical tyranny, vaccines, individual autonomy, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin.
00:02:31.000Because from where I sit, I'm not, you know, I'm seeing a little bit around the mask.
00:02:36.000So I guess the masks thing is probably the most that's changed.
00:02:39.000Yeah, I suppose just you have like Nevada lifting their indoor mask mandate, right?
00:02:44.000You have certain areas that are backing off a little bit on vaccine mandates, but there definitely is a de-emphasis of media hysteria of the last two weeks, right?
00:02:54.000Maybe you're maybe you see it differently.
00:03:44.000The vaccine was a failure all along because it was never preventing really Delta and/or Omicron.
00:03:49.000So they had no choice but to roll back their thoughts and say, you know what?
00:03:55.000If history is going to smile on us at all, we better at least start shifting what we're telling to the people, what we're reporting to say, okay, lockdowns didn't work.
00:04:07.000Well, or if you look at, you know, say, for example, you know, on brownstone.org, Paul Alexander has 400 articles that showed how anything and everything we did didn't stop the virus.
00:04:17.000So they're starting to see, admit to the data.
00:04:22.000They're starting to look at the data and go, okay.
00:04:24.000But Ryan, I don't know that they're admitting to it because I did see when the way she words it, it's almost like, you know, we're talking about like admitting they're wrong.
00:04:34.000It's not really that they're admitting they're wrong.
00:04:36.000It's they're saying like they were going to do this the whole time.
00:05:30.000And it's not only an action that occurs in the U.S. Interestingly, the stronger a country is in order to be a purchaser of vaccines and high-cost drugs, the stronger is the war.
00:05:44.000So I can see that in Brazil, for example, we have the largest single purchaser, which is the national health system.
00:05:51.000So the war there is very strong as well.
00:05:53.000And you see a very orchestrated action between different, for example, 90% of the doctors who are trying to belittle us or are trying to suppress the discussion.
00:06:07.000Everything that tries to suppress the discussion is not actual science, first of all.
00:06:42.000So they're probably one of the biggest pharma states because it totally controls the health systems, the doctors.
00:06:48.000And so, you know, as a colleague, Flavi and I, we've been working together.
00:06:52.000He's one of our main clinical advisors in the FLCC.
00:06:57.000When we share our journeys through COVID, they're remarkably similar.
00:07:03.000I mean, the same hit pieces, the same attacks, the same ostracism, the same all of it.
00:07:08.000And it's the same denial of science, the same attempts at suppressing, distorting the science, especially around ivermectin and even all the other early treatment drugs.
00:07:17.000So in Brazil, there's a fact that's happening because of this pharma-controlled state, it is silently changing from presidential to parliamental.
00:07:28.000So what happened is our president tried to control the influence of the big pharma.
00:07:32.000What happened is the Supreme Court of Justice prohibited him to decide for the country.
00:07:39.000And similarly, the Senate and the upper and the lower houses, they started to make investigations over the president's actions by not buying the vaccines right away.
00:07:48.000They were offered with Terrible contract from Pfizer because he did not sign right away.
00:07:57.000I'm among the 78 people that were formally accused of crime against humanity, and our names are in IA right now because they were not able to control.
00:08:10.000So, Dr. Cole, some would say that things are getting better around the world in terms of lower virus rates.
00:08:16.000Omicron might have had something to do with that.
00:08:19.000We played around with this idea of it being maybe a white hat kind of creation.
00:08:24.000I think that's an interesting thing to talk about.
00:08:26.000We did a pretty good job, I think, last time.
00:08:28.000But I want to ask: do you think we're out of the woods?
00:09:07.000But if we look at the common cold coronaviruses that have been around for a long time, they probably started out more aggressively.
00:09:15.000All viruses eventually want to coexist and obtain benevolent mutations.
00:09:20.000So whether this was white hat, whether it was manipulated, the thing to keep in mind is anybody can make a virus anymore.
00:09:27.000You can make a virus in your garage with a CRISPR, sadly.
00:09:30.000And so whatever laboratories have bioweapons programs or research programs into gain of function, there are a lot of things that could happen in humanity.
00:10:08.000I want to ask you about that in a second, Dr. Corey.
00:10:10.000You know, Ryan's talking about the science of the virus and how it's going to go into the endemic.
00:10:15.000But, you know, I'm so interested, you know, I want to talk about the positive note, not yet about the U.S., but when you look at the increasing numbers of countries who are like, you know, when did like mask light roll back?
00:10:27.000You know, like, you don't have to mask when you shower.
00:10:31.000Like, you know, you know, everyone's in the streets cheering, you know.
00:10:34.000But no, when you look at the number of countries that are full-on dropping vaccine passports, which essentially say no more mandates.
00:10:40.000You know, and so they're dropping mandates, they're dropping masks, they're dropping social distancing, they're going back to like normal life.
00:11:40.000If the science is so conclusive, then why is it the people representing science just do the exact opposite, right?
00:11:47.000And that's where a lot of like normal suburban moms, they're like, there's no way there could be no science behind it, but you're saying that there is.
00:11:55.000If you want to know what's going on, follow the money.
00:11:58.000If you want to know the truth, look at who's being silenced.
00:13:01.000It's just that it was counter narrative to what the bigger entities wanted to accomplish.
00:13:07.000I suppose the counter argument is like, okay, that was like scholasticism with the Catholic Church.
00:13:11.000And now this is like scientists that are supposed to.
00:13:14.000Yeah, they're supposed to be like steeped in the method.
00:13:16.000This is instead of Deus Machina, this is Deus Vaccina.
00:13:22.000But I guess it's just for someone who isn't a doctor, I look, and this is something that, you know, we talked about last time, but I want to just dive into this because it's so interesting.
00:13:31.000We're in quote-unquote modernity, right?
00:13:33.000Where we have Twitter and we can have FaceTime audio, FaceTime calls with our family members in Sydney when they're locked down, and we're supposed to be advancing, right?
00:13:44.000That's the promise of the technological elite, right?
00:13:47.000That somehow we're marching towards some sort of perfection, which we obviously know is a bunch of lies, right?
00:13:56.000But at least to kind of most people, they think there's no way that the scientists would just put aside the scientific method and buy into something that is purely profit or pathological focused.
00:14:07.000So medical doctors are being trained to be replaced by apps.
00:14:47.000One of our colleagues, he was the former president of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons.
00:14:51.000There's a fantastic article out there talking about evidence-based medicine.
00:14:55.000So it's this EVM movement where it's everything is a cookbook and a recipe, And it takes away the individuality of the patient in the doctor-patient relationship.
00:15:04.000And to Flavio's point, Dr. Flavio is absolutely right.
00:15:07.000It's here's your algorithm, here is your protocol, and it negates the fact that there are 7 billion different people.
00:15:23.000And this is very convenient because the pathophysiology behind the COVID and COVID vaccines is so complex and so unique for each person that this evidence is the excessive use, the abuse of the wrong principles of the evidence-based medicine would be very convenient to preclude us from finding correlations with the upcoming risks that we're going to see in the next couple of years.
00:15:49.000But I mean, if it's evidence-based medicine and you have a country like Israel that is definitely a modern country, not a third world country, and they just announced their fourth booster and their rates go up even further.
00:16:00.000And I don't want to dwell on this too much, but for just a normal person, I look at that and I say there's no way you can't be bought or corrupt or believing something that is just quite honestly mystical.
00:16:12.000I mean, it's like at war with the Enlightenment, right?
00:16:19.000There's some other force pushing it, right?
00:16:21.000And so we've talked about that in terms of the pharmaceutical products, or specifically with ivermectin and the pushing of these other products.
00:16:28.000You know, when you look at the, you know, I've said, you know, last time we were on, I talked about, just look at the history of the pharmaceutical industry.
00:16:34.000If you look at the history of the vaccine industry, I mean, they've been at this game a long time.
00:16:39.000I mean, when, you know, there's charts showing these rapidly declining rates of a number of diseases that we began a vaccination.
00:16:48.000All of those declines were on a particular slope well before the vaccine.
00:17:16.000And the vaccine industry has inserted a massive schedule of vaccines.
00:17:19.000And so, I mean, I don't want to go too much into the history, but you have to understand the power and how, you know, and I was having a conversation actually with Del Bigtree yesterday, and he made this really interesting point.
00:17:32.000If you're a pharmaceutical company, would you rather develop a drug for people who get sick with the disease, or would you rather develop a vaccine for everybody without the disease, right?
00:17:54.000So when you ask about how Israel could be embarking on a fourth booster dose, when the data has been showing it's been failing, the most vaccinated country in the world off the charts.
00:18:04.000And now we're seeing, I think, pretty strong signals of antibody-dependent enhancements because you're seeing deaths rise now to a great extent, right?
00:18:12.000So those vaccines are now actually showing, and we've always known that the toxicity actually outweighed the efficacy.
00:18:19.000But now you're seeing not only toxicity from the vaccine, you're seeing it's causing worsening outcomes from the disease.
00:18:26.000And so when it's terrifying to think that, like I said, that knowing this, knowing that we're using, especially now, the absurdity of using a Wuhan strain vaccine against Omicron when it has negative efficacy against it, and this resident who's about to lose his training spot.
00:18:46.000I don't even, waking up every day and you see these things so grossly and absurdly divorced from any notion of the science or the data.
00:19:31.000And I mean, outside of the carcinogenins in smoking, it actually could have a lot of health benefits, such as not having the most fattest generation or country ever.
00:19:40.000Okay, so, but you brought up a point that really moved me last time we talked about how you said this was a trend happening in science before COVID.
00:19:48.000You tried to convince people of high-dose vitamin C. You couldn't shake people out of it.
00:19:51.000They didn't want to even talk about it.
00:19:53.000Dr. Cole, in your experience, do you think that COVID revealed a scientific community that was already kind of in this dogmatic position?
00:20:10.000I mean, I'm known vitamin D, vitamin D. Everybody hears me say that.
00:20:13.000Now all the studies are vindicating what I said, you know, way early in the pandemic.
00:20:18.000And they're like, oh, gosh, look, if you're not obese and your vitamin D levels are normal, your chances of succumbing to COVID or having severe COVID are almost zero.
00:20:25.000Oh, they recommended it now for COVID?
00:20:27.000There's some fantastic papers that have finally, they haven't recommended it.
00:20:30.000They still won't recommend it, but all the data and the science, to your point.
00:20:34.000And anything that is cheap and effective, like these guys have been focusing on, that you can do and manage your own health.
00:20:44.000A doctor's goal should always be to put him or herself out of practice.
00:20:48.000If you're doing your job right as a healer, then all your patients are well enough.
00:20:54.000This is where those of us that are in the political space, this makes a lot more sense than people that aren't, because we see this all the time, right?
00:21:00.000We see this in the war machine, right?
00:21:02.000I mean, they just can't help themselves and want to go to invade another country, right?
00:22:09.000Did you, so, you know, on that, you know, I think we talked about it last time.
00:22:13.000I don't want to repeat it, but, you know, you brought it up, you know, this cookbook medicine, this obsession with guidelines and this move to standardization in medicine, right?
00:22:23.000Turning patients into cars on a factory assembly line.
00:22:27.000Literally, that's what I've likened to.
00:22:28.000And I was already in lots of pushback before COVID when my chiefs were starting to speak the language of standardization.
00:22:36.000They constantly were asking me to standardize the practices of the doctors in the ICU that I was running.
00:23:43.000I don't know if that happened to you in the hospitals in Brazil.
00:23:45.000They literally will not fill ivermectin in the hospitals.
00:23:50.000And then did you follow the testimony that Ron Johnson's the other week and what Paul Marrick talked about, right?
00:23:56.000So in Paul's, now that was a little bit more of a personal in vendetta against Paul.
00:24:01.000It was really against us, the FLCC and our protocols, but they literally removed every single medicine that he'd been using effectively in our protocols.
00:24:08.000And he was left with, I mean, he doesn't use remdesivir.
00:24:12.000He would never let a patient get remdesivir, but all he had was steroids.
00:24:29.000It started worsening the hospitalization?
00:24:31.000So when you get an ER and you do not get a prescription with some of these medications, very early in the beginning to May 2020, they used to prescribe some of these drugs.
00:25:10.000Because we've had consolidation of a healthcare system since Obamacare, there aren't as many independents.
00:25:16.000And so you can't practice independently anymore.
00:25:19.000And to Dr. Corey's point, now you have these big systems protocols and you have administrators and politicians practicing medicine without a license.
00:25:28.000You have doctors, you know, in our age cohort with kids in college or the younger ones that come out of med school with too much student debt.
00:25:34.000It's phenomenal how many colleagues have reached out to all of us and said, you guys are right.
00:25:54.000So there are some that prescribe in the back of the paper, in the ER.
00:26:02.000So, you know, the other things besides, you know, so what are the other forces besides money?
00:26:06.000Because I've thought about it, because I have seen a lot of stuff happening that's not, it's not pharma paying someone off to do something.
00:26:41.000And so I see this constant rulemaking, rule enforcing, and then add in a dash of what I think is a psychology of the vaccinated and those who've been propagating those policies, which is I think there's some amount of denial, remorse, regret, unease.
00:26:58.000Those who have succumbed to vaccination, who've volunteered to get the vaccine, or actually no one's volunteered.
00:27:10.000And I think to admit that mistake, they're unable to, because I think they would have to admit to themselves that they did something bad to themselves.
00:27:19.000And so for them, it's almost like they double down in making sure everyone else.
00:28:54.000But I know personally, and I'm not a doctor, but the people that have come to me for advice, because they live in Massachusetts, they can't find a doctor that will prescribe them stuff.
00:29:03.000I say, okay, well, Dr. Cole and Dr. Corey say, you know, melatonin and a vitamin D booster shot, maybe baby aspirin, get your hands on some prednisone, azithromycin, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine probably can't hurt.
00:29:15.000And they're like, oh, yeah, now I'm better.
00:29:17.000I mean, it's like, it's at some point, you have to have prudence as a doctor, right?
00:29:21.000Yeah, that's so what you, I'd like what you just said, because one story that I forget to tell, especially when I started spewing in the ivermectin data, is, you know, when I finished my review paper and I was so overwhelmed with the positivity from in vitro, and vivo, animal, case studies, reports, all of that, right?
00:29:39.000I actually hadn't treated a patient yet.
00:29:43.000And my first patient I ever treated, it was a woman who had COVID and she was still having fevers and a resting heart rate of about 110, 120, almost two weeks into her illness and reached out, got her doctor actually to prescribe the ivermectin.
00:29:58.000And she told me she felt very flush that night.
00:30:01.000And the morning she woke up and her heart rate was 80 and she had no more fevers.
00:30:06.000Now, was that the night that she was going to get better anyway, Charlie?
00:30:10.000Or it might have had some, but you see this.
00:31:00.000So you've been doing experiments, Charlie.
00:31:01.000Yeah, like I haven't prescribed anything, but I am proud to say, and I will own this, that people that were not doing well, thanks to all of your guys' advice and your network have saved lives.
00:31:11.000And I was a communicator and a connector to that stuff.
00:31:55.000You know, we did talk about this a little bit, but now it's become a bigger story, which is Sam Davidson, who's the CEO of an insurance company in Indiana, $100 billion insurance company.
00:32:06.000I wrote this piece and it kind of went viral.
00:32:09.000I wasn't the first one to cover it, but I got it kind of into some of the main bloodstream.
00:32:14.000It got smeared in every possible direction.
00:32:17.000And just for everyone listening, it's that between ages 18 to 64, he and his actuaries in the life insurance industry are saying they have seen a 40% increase in death, and it's not because of COVID.
00:32:31.000I went on Tucker's program and I said, look, it could be deaths of isolation, suicide, alcoholism, drug addiction.
00:32:38.000We also decided to do a mass inoculation strategy.
00:32:54.000She wrote, she actually, after that news piece came out, where the interview with the CEO of a life insurance company saying that they've a 10% rise in that age group's mortality would be historic.
00:33:50.000And exactly right around the end of quarter one, it started on this 30% rise and it's continuing to work.
00:33:58.000So when you say, right, because I've seen articles, I saw some people, you know, they gave about 18 different reasons why those deaths are occurring, right?
00:34:06.000And like you said, isolation, drug abuse, you could say all of that.
00:34:09.000But did drug abuse and isolation start at the end of quarter one of 2021?
00:34:14.000I mean, you look at that and it's chilling.
00:34:16.000There's only one thing that rolled out at the end of the first quarter of 21 and started to hit significant amounts of the population.
00:34:23.000And so you're literally, it's very hard to argue that that's not a toxic and fatal effect of the vaccines.
00:34:30.000And we know, we work with researchers.
00:35:03.000In my same town, a 22-year-old healthy wrestler just died.
00:35:06.000You know, anecdotal, sure, correlation is not causation is what you'll hear.
00:35:11.000But as a pathologist, when I get families saying, will you please look at this autopsy tissue from my loved one?
00:35:17.000And when you see the age range of these individuals, you just go, especially when the mandates hit quarter three, quarter four with that insurance data, that's when that big uptake hits.
00:35:28.000So, but however, we're going to have a huge barrier.
00:35:32.000So the way the analysis of the data and science is being formatted, is being formatted to avoid any sort of demonstration of causation.
00:35:42.000So associations will never be causation.
00:35:45.000They're going to blame on anything but the vaccines.
00:35:48.000How would they do the data to show that?
00:36:38.000The hospital level data is actually showing where we're seeing from some of the more transparent countries, more of the people dying in the hospital are vaccinated.
00:36:45.000But the aggregate data from the federal government is where it's obscuring that signal.
00:36:51.000But if you look at like Dr. Pontasados out of Colombia that did the all-cause mortality study, and then was Neil Fenton out of the UK, you start looking at their data and go, well, gosh, the all-cause mortality is now higher.
00:37:04.000And then you get the propaganda from like BBC, breathing too many times can cause a heart attack.
00:37:43.000Well, there's a deeper point to this, though.
00:37:45.000If what he is saying is true, and I believe it is, and if you guys believe it's true, you do realize insurance bonds are like way more stable than like treasuries.
00:37:57.000People buy insurance bonds all the time as safe havens.
00:38:00.000And so if insurance companies skew, I mean, you're talking about an economic collapse.
00:38:04.000And I'm not trying to scare people, but insurance bonds are super reliable.
00:42:26.000So we're all constantly exposed to all sorts of pathogens all day long.
00:42:31.000So if you get a little spike, you've already had COVID, you're going to get a sniffle for a day, your body's going to clear it.
00:42:35.000But if you get a massive dose of it, that's a different story.
00:42:38.000And if you get COVID and recover, the amount of virus that you make and spike that you make is far less than those who are getting the shots and persistently making it in their body.
00:42:49.000And that was the Stanford study as well.
00:42:51.000And you just look at it and go, gosh, we're doing something synthetic with something we've never done on humanity before.
00:42:56.000We're accidentally calling it a vaccine, even though it doesn't prevent acquisition, transmission, disease, or death, and causes increased all-cause mortality.
00:43:25.000In page 67, they actually had an exclusion criteria to enter the trial is that you couldn't be, I think, your partner couldn't have been vaccinated.
00:43:36.000They literally didn't want to be in the same room.
00:43:40.000You couldn't make the same contact as someone vaccinated.
00:43:42.000So it basically was a clause which suggested that they had a concern about shedding.
00:44:12.000And by the way, I'm just going to have to stop here and say I find it absolutely abhorrent that we have 120 academic medical centers in this country.
00:44:20.000You have 120 chairs of obstetrics, gynecology departments amongst those 120 academic medical centers who work for 120 deans.
00:44:29.000And I call this the silence of the deans.
00:44:32.000You're telling me that legions of obstetricians and gynecologists in this country aren't seeing their practices ravaged by these vaccines.
00:45:01.000That's why I wanted to put out the theoretical reason, right?
00:45:04.000You're giving us some of the pathophysiology, but I'm seeing on the clinical level women who were not vaccinated went to an appointment to, like, I think one went to an acupuncturist who had recently vaccinated.
00:45:16.000And she told me, this is a number of women.
00:45:19.000Both of them said the reason why they were making this association is because their menstrual cycles had been so regular for so long.
00:45:26.000They said you could set a clock to it.
00:45:29.000Never really missed a day, never late, never nothing.
00:45:32.000And then both of them, not only either became amenorrheaic or irregular or heavy periods, or like they even talked about breast swelling, and they were convinced it was because of a close exposure to a vaccinated person.
00:45:44.000Yeah, and it could also be women sometimes get, they court without knowing it.
00:46:58.000And this is, you know, going back to Dr. Corey's point about this Department of Defense data and the fraud and the cover-up, and heads are going to roll and people are going to...
00:49:35.000So when I discovered that, when I knew this was a lab leak virus, is when someone finally told me that the fish market where the first case came out of was 300 yards from the actual only lab doing gain of function research on coronavirus.
00:50:57.000I think those numbers who are waking up and realizing that they've been lied to are increasing.
00:51:03.000But I still say massive portions of this country still believe what they're hearing from the television stations and on the radio, and they're still hearing nonsense.
00:51:11.000They're still hearing mistruths and blatant lies and misrepresentations of the data.
00:51:42.000If you look at all these, you know, if you look up TNI, and it was for election integrity that they got together and said, you know, for election integrity around the world and the U.S., whatever, we're going to get together and make sure that only the truth is going to be reported.
00:51:55.000Well, when they finished whatever happened in 2019, they said, okay, well, gosh, we are going to make sure that nothing is spoken against vaccines and nothing is spoken against what the CDC or WHO has said.
00:52:08.000So for the last almost two years, you have had collusion, almost a RICO-like violation, mob-like behavior of the media saying, we will report on this and this.
00:52:38.000The other observation, I was working on a talk the other day, and I have this new lecture that I've been giving over the last couple of weeks.
00:53:22.000And I thought to myself, I said, now this is interesting.
00:53:25.000A global philanthropist whose main interest is in vaccinating essentially the world and making that pretty much the sole intervention of global public health.
00:53:36.000Purportedly, that seems attractive to people.
00:53:39.000And that's, you know, he's a real, you know, he contributes to humanity in that regard.
00:53:44.000Why does he need to give hundreds of millions to media companies?
00:53:48.000How is someone who's devoted to public health, why are they giving hundreds of millions to media?
00:53:55.000Is it because media companies are losing money and they're hemorrhaging?
00:54:20.000Yeah, he forgets to tie his shoes, right?
00:54:22.000Like, come on, that guy couldn't be behind anything Machiavellian, right?
00:54:25.000He's just a coder that didn't go to college and he's super rich and he must have my best interest at heart.
00:54:32.000And it's well known and it's well documented.
00:54:34.000After Gates almost got in a lot of trouble with the United States government back in the 90s and 2000 of automatically instoring Internet Explorer in our computers, he hired a publicist for tens of millions of dollars and he redid his entire image because he was a villain in the 90s.
00:55:12.000And you know, the other thing, the other thing is so, maybe part of that image change, you know, is he rebranded himself as a philanthropist because he's anything but, right?
00:55:22.000Tess Laurie said this really powerfully almost a year ago.
00:55:26.000She said, you know, how does a philanthropist gain wealth in a global how is a public health philanthropist gain wealth in a global pandemic?
00:55:38.000We'd have to go back to isn't philanthropy when you give away money?
00:55:41.000Yeah, but if you look at philanthropy literally means love of people.
00:55:47.000Philanthropy doesn't come, it's not shown.
00:55:49.000So what is worse is that all these people behind the scene are bulletproof for whatever happens in the future because they did it everything in a way that the contracts, the links, they will be bulletproof.
00:57:52.000So, so, you know, he corrupts, like, he basically, you know, the standard, like the epidemiologists and the public health officials down there, they recognize for Africa that critical things for public health is like water sanitation, food, just nutrition and water, maybe some basic medicines.
00:58:15.000Those are like the foundation of preserving some amount of public health.
00:58:19.000And all of a sudden, all these vaccines and vaccine money comes in.
00:58:23.000And what happened, there's these absurd examples where the pay for a vaccination nurse to promote vaccines and give vaccines is double to triple what the other public health nurses get.
00:58:36.000So he's literally upsetting and disturbing the balance.
00:58:40.000And there are these poor, well-meaning public health officials who are saying like everybody's dying because all the money is going to vaccines and they don't have enough for those standard much more positive.
00:58:56.000But the money that he gives, so then the other thing that he does, and he did this in this pandemic, so he's essentially a representative of vaccination industry, well invested in almost all the vaccine companies.
00:59:23.000And it's only showing you a lot of the same thing.
00:59:26.000You're saying that you're disturbed, Charlie, by someone who has a huge foundation with hundreds of billions of dollars and is vested in pharmaceutical companies.
00:59:37.000And then privately, you're also invested in pharmaceuticals.
00:59:40.000And this furthers the global demand and market and uptake of vaccines.
00:59:48.000I can't imagine that he's trying to push it just for the benevolence of the world, right?
00:59:53.000No transparency theories can compete with reality, right?
00:59:56.000So just one example of the whole, if you think there's not a plan out there, why didn't they study the medications in 2020, these medications that came out, like Pox Lovid and Monopirovir?
01:00:29.000And I used to believe that too, is that they were actually trying to actually, you know, work their way around a rule when they write the rules.
01:00:38.000So but the other thing, you know, going back to Gates.
01:00:40.000For example, yeah, they changed the definition of vaccine.
01:00:43.000But the other thing about Gates is that apparently his personal philosophy and one of the central tenets of what he does for the vaccine industry is he ensures that their intellectual property is protected.
01:01:27.000Guess who fought that Kumbaya, you know, like, hey, let's just share the recipe and all the countries can start making the vaccines and everyone get vaccinated.
01:01:51.000And I think he is, you know, when we talk about all the stuff that's going on, the investments in the media, the investments in the international agency, the control over the vaccine, the vaccine coalitions and his protection against the intellectual property.
01:02:08.000This does not sound like someone whose interests are public health.
01:02:10.000I don't know if you guys have access here in the US, but another argument you can use is you have a good vaccine, regardless of their political regimen in Cuba.
01:02:20.000They have the Soberona Q that works at least as well as the other vaccines, at least their official data.
01:04:35.000There are certain families of viruses.
01:04:38.000You may have some effect at first, but when they mutate, you have made an immune response and an antibody to Dr. Corey's point and the data showing that now if you've got the shots, you get COVID at a higher rate, especially like the Denmark data, the Israel data.
01:04:54.000There is wisdom in science that says there are certain things that are prudent and there are certain things that are imprudent.
01:05:01.000And what we did from day one, if we look at the history of coronavirus vaccinology, SARS-CoV-1 MERS, et cetera, why don't we have a vaccine to the common colds, all the different families?
01:05:57.000So the entire premise was on shaky science, right?
01:06:01.000And then to go even more full circle, when you look at the prior coronavirus vaccines, do you know how and why they failed and were most disturbing?
01:06:13.000That means that people get their ability to fight future viruses, their whole immune system gets weaker.
01:06:19.000If they get vaccinated first, if they get vaccinated first, it's a very complex immune phenomenon.
01:06:24.000And if you ask him, he's going to go a half hour and he's going to lose weight.
01:06:27.000Well, I'm just trying to translate it to those of us that.
01:06:31.000Basically, what happens is when you develop the antibodies to the vaccine and then later get the illness, there's this very complex interplay between the immune system and the antibody.
01:06:41.000It actually triggers this robust, overwhelming response, and you actually die at a higher rate if you've received the vaccines before you get the illness.
01:06:55.000And so when I say coming full circle, one of the reasons why that immunologist said, you know, cried mercy, you know, enough.
01:07:02.000We got to stop here is I believe that's occurring in Israel.
01:07:06.000And so that fear and that faulty premise just from the get-go, going after a coronavirus vaccine, going after a coronavirus with a vaccine and the risk associated and the history of the failures with ADE, guess where we are now?
01:10:19.000It's a higher, those are generally men with higher levels of the more active form of testosterone.
01:10:24.000So they noticed this odd pattern that everyone on the vents dying was bald.
01:10:29.000And so Dr. Katagiani and his group has numbers of papers and trials showing that if you manipulate the level of testosterone and you block it, it led to much greater outcomes.
01:10:42.000And that was kind of like his trick to beat Gamma.
01:10:59.000His trial, though, so the day that his trial got, and I didn't know his, I just knew, you know, I had known of him because I knew he was a researcher on ivermectin.
01:11:27.000And Dr. Katagiani went to the company and said he would trial it.
01:11:32.000And what I really like when you talk about integrity, intelligence, and bravery, from the beginning, Dr. Katagiani, when he did that research for that company, this is a novel agent, high potency.
01:11:44.000Obviously, the company would love to have it be effective in COVID and make big time money.
01:11:49.000He made an agreement that they would have to sell it for cheap if he found efficacy.
01:12:00.000It's in the Gamma Varin Bozilla double-blind multicenter placebo-controlled randomized control trial, large.
01:12:06.000And they showed that in the control group, it was 49% mortality.
01:12:11.000And that was even with some treatments in the control group.
01:12:14.000And then you got it down, they got it down to about 11%.
01:12:16.000This is against GAM with a very powerful term.
01:12:18.000And they couldn't say that we did it artificially because the mortality rate in the states where we conducted the trial during that period was above 50% or in hospital mortality.
01:13:24.000When we were at war with the Axis powers, there was an urgency where if anyone had a good idea to make something new or deadly, like present it.
01:13:37.000And there were a lot of entrepreneurs that were like pitching stuff to the U.S. government, right?
01:13:40.000So when we had this kind of national fabric social contract back in 1941 and 42, where it's like, yeah, I can convert my, you know, I don't know, my sewing factory to go make uniforms.
01:13:51.000Or, you know, I think this could be really effective.
01:13:54.000And there was almost, there was such an open-mindedness by the U.S. government in the 1940s, like we don't want to get invaded by Japan or bombed by the Nazis.
01:14:02.000You would think, and I just, it reminded me, because I've done a lot of study about that period of time in the business sector and how they were immediately on board to fight the Axis.
01:14:33.000How are you going to win the campaign?
01:14:34.000How are you going to get through this battle?
01:14:36.000Could you imagine Pfizer running the World War II implementation?
01:14:41.000So the delusional issue is only though.
01:14:42.000And the Pfizer is actively searching tomorrow and we'll present some data on how Pfizer is actively attacking those who are treating their plans.
01:15:11.000On your point, you're just bringing back memories of my former self.
01:15:16.000Earlier on the pandemic, I literally, I was like, you know, when I talk about when I finished my review paper on ivermectin and I posted on a preprint streamer, I was like literally trembling because I really thought we could end the pandemic with this drug.
01:15:29.000And I envisioned like a Marshall process.
01:15:32.000Like the government just coming in, you know, mass producing, co-opting factories, you know, my dreams of, you know, every cupboard having ivermectin, and, you know, like, that's where I was.
01:15:42.000You mean like they did in Utah Pardee?
01:19:38.000So, when the virus replicates, you make this long string of proteins, and in order to reassemble it into a virus, you have to clip it in a bunch of places.
01:19:45.000That's a little enzyme, it's like a little scissor.
01:19:47.000But if you can block the scissor, then the virus can't be clipped and reassemble itself.
01:20:50.000This is like I, my wife works still at the university that I used to be the chief at, and um, she told me that one of their protocols is if you're going to use Paxlova, you got to stop all the other meds.
01:21:03.000This drug runs with scissors and does not play with LOLs.
01:21:06.000It runs with scissors, can't play with other children.
01:21:09.000I mean, just can we just finish on Paxlovin?
01:21:11.000Because I will tell you, I will never prescribe that to anyone anymore.
01:21:14.000Yeah, and anyone who does has to be reckless.
01:21:16.000I'm glad we said that because they're trying to use that as this next phase to try to make a bunch of money.
01:21:21.000A lot of doctors are going to prescribe it.
01:21:23.000But here's to the point: if it works as well as they say, statistically, then they have to end the vaccines yesterday.
01:21:42.000Just as a reminder, they called me too good to be true when I showed this data reducing by 77% and the mortality rates.
01:21:51.000Eric DuPaul from Science called me like that and he blocked me right away without any right away on social media right after they published this Holznest news story.
01:22:03.000And now it comes with something with 89% reduction mortality rate and he says nothing.
01:22:17.000Pfizer Pill, we know they don't play by the rules because they write the rules into what was, in my opinion, something that was one of the most slanderous black propaganda campaigns I've ever seen, which was the hit on Joe Rogan.
01:22:44.000But I am saying that it's hardly, you know, 60 minutes.
01:22:48.000However, he did have a reach that was so unbelievable.
01:22:50.000Had Dr. Malone on, had Dr. McCullough on, moved the Overton window so successfully, right?
01:22:56.000And they start with these kind of COVID misinformation labels that you have to go talk to your doctor, blah, And then they go into this whole thing with the N-word and all that.
01:23:04.000What are your thoughts on just kind of the Rogan smear?
01:23:57.000And I think that as Joe started to speak out about this, did the unexpected video about Ivermectin back in September, started to dance in this, all of a sudden, a opposition file was created on Joe.
01:24:08.000And everyone knew he said these things before.
01:24:09.000And by the way, he didn't even say it.
01:24:10.000He was quoting other people saying it.
01:24:16.000But they say instead, like, now we're going to resurrect this and get everyone really mad again to try to either discredit him or put him in his place.
01:24:49.000No, not the outcasts, not the ragtag futures.
01:24:51.000And that's the thing is that, you know, I have said to my team, and we have tried, I want any one of these people on my show, and I'm just going to ask them questions.
01:25:00.000And they can argue from authority, and I'll just dismiss that.
01:25:04.000I just want some answers to some questions.
01:25:14.000We're having on the show in a couple days.
01:25:16.000So, Steve, if you've seen Steve, Steve has offered one in $2 million on a weekly basis to almost anyone in government and academia to come out and debate and share data and discuss data on the vaccines.
01:25:27.000And he can't get anyone to take a million dollars.
01:25:52.000I will say, though, despite our shortcomings, America still has a little bit more of a kind of freedom perspective on this, thanks to states' rights and others.
01:26:03.000Like, no difference, Brazil, America, they're all the same.
01:26:06.000Yeah, for medical doctors, we had a little advantage because in Brazil.
01:26:10.000Yeah, because the president of the Brazilian board of medical doctors was very strong maintaining our autonomy in prescription.
01:26:22.000In the most he said, as he said, such under uncertain times and uncertain data, we cannot shape exactly what doctors will prescribe because this is a time where things are most uncertain.
01:26:39.000How can we be so certain about things when science is so uncertain?
01:26:44.000So, this safety profile that is sold for the vaccines, who's gonna say that in such a so certain way when you have lack of data in the long term.
01:26:56.000So, the certainties that all this certain that is anything but reliable.
01:27:02.000So, that's for this reason, he allowed doctors to provide their patients reports whether when they cannot be vaccinated, drugs that they need it, regardless.
01:27:15.000So, for this autonomy, so you have a lot of exemptions in Brazil, like that's a thing you can get medical exemptions, medical freedom to give the exemptions because we don't know the actual exemptions.
01:27:26.000So, so people can be free from co-worker vaccines fairly easily because here's the problem now.
01:27:32.000It's fighting because here it's been impossible, but it's a nerve fight, I know.
01:27:36.000It's of course because the pharma would never allow that without fighting back.
01:27:41.000Can I bring up an ironic point with Joe Rogan?
01:27:43.000So, Merck's Molnu Pirivir, which is worse than placebo, is actually made.
01:27:49.000I mean, it's mutagenic, but it was made against an alpha virus, and it was made for Eastern equine encephalitis, which is a virus that affects horses.
01:28:07.000So, I just, the irony with Joe Rogan, you don't hear that there.
01:28:10.000Because of Brazil, if you remove the data from Brazil in the trial, you have no efficacy at all.
01:28:16.000So, Molnu Pirivir in all the countries that they studied, it was only effective in GAMA, only showed efficacy in one time in one country, which is Brazil and Gamma, and everywhere else it failed.
01:28:26.000And then, you know, and Molnu Pirvir, which is approved by the FDA, even India, which is a very corrupt country, pharma, you know, all through there, they canceled their order of Molnu Piravir.
01:28:38.000Just like the WHO, oddly, somehow, I guess Gilead didn't give as much money as Bill Gates, but the WHO does not recommend remdesivir since November of 2020.
01:28:48.000But here it's the standard of care, right?
01:29:06.000But I also know people that didn't go to the hospital and actually were able to turn the corner very effectively.
01:29:11.000So I want to get to the domestic terrorist thing.
01:29:13.000And then there's a couple of other smaller things I'm just kind of curious about.
01:29:17.000And I want to close with kind of just where we are from a population standpoint perspective on this stuff, which I think is the business you guys are all in, right?
01:29:26.000And I want to close on that because I actually think it's some optimism there.
01:29:29.000But domestic terrorists, I mean, so now you're like Timothy McVeigh or something.
01:29:33.000So, you know, I think I overused the word absurdity and obscenity, but they're not enough.
01:30:21.000When I read it, I feel like my government, you know, I'm just a guy, a physician who's literally trying to do what I've volunteered to devote my life to, which is the care of patients, to learn to be the best doctor I can, and to teach, you know, being a doctor is a teacher.
01:30:39.000And I've devoted my life to teaching medicine.
01:30:41.000Now I don't have a position in an academic institution, but I try to teach lay people now.
01:31:22.000Yeah, and it's not the country I grew up in.
01:31:24.000And that's why I'm interested, Dr. Corey, if I could just follow up on one thing, which is, you know, I don't want to politicize this, but you were on maybe the other side or whatever.
01:31:32.000But it's just like, I just want you to talk a little bit about the last two years of how, you know, you look at things differently because of all this in institutions.
01:32:17.000But because the right is, I think, more naturally inclined to question government and to question, especially big government, if you were in a position when you started questioning the policies being conducted by the government, you were getting things correct.
01:32:33.000And, you know, the right kept getting things correct.
01:32:37.000And because our contrarian opinions, which are database and scientifically driven, were against the government, suddenly I found that most of our closest allies were on the right.
01:32:48.000So people now think I'm a Republican or whatever it is.
01:32:55.000But that's where, you know, so that's one transformation is, and I'm going to tell you a couple of interesting things.
01:33:01.000So there was a time, probably two years ago, when I was like a Bible-thumping New York, like a New York, you know, the New York Times was my Bible.
01:33:59.000But hold on, let me just finish a more positive.
01:34:01.000And so one of those trans, because you asked me about transformations, right?
01:34:04.000So I had that kind of ideology, you know, and now I now have two years of this beautiful and wide network of people largely from the right side of the political spectrum, conservatives, but all different stripes and types, credible, intelligent, insightful, you know, lovely people.
01:34:26.000I have just, you know, from a guy who didn't think I could be in the same room as a Republican to now having like this massive network of friends.
01:34:34.000And then, and the other thing is like my old friends, my phone, it doesn't ring very often.
01:34:42.000And so like, that's been a transformation for me.
01:34:56.000So it's been an enlightenment to me in making connections with people and finding out that I can make connections and it doesn't have to be on a political agreement basis.
01:35:06.000You know, you can just be friends with humans and they're intelligent and all that.
01:35:10.000And so it's been a real, that's been one of the big transformations.
01:35:14.000And then the other is that like, I don't know if it's the right word, but I just feel like a broken doctor because, or I feel like medicine's broken and I don't know where I am anymore.
01:35:24.000Like because of all that disinformation stuff, like I just, I can't even read a medical journal anymore.
01:35:32.000And like I don't know who to trust, what to believe.
01:35:34.000And, you know, the only people I trust are like experts at sniffing out data, analyzing data, and they analyze and conclude, and they don't have any conflicts of interest.
01:35:44.000I cannot listen to anyone with a conflict of interest because they just can't be trusted.
01:35:49.000And I'm sure there are trustworthy people, definitely are trustworthy people working all through academia.
01:35:55.000But it's just that the journal, what appears in journals is what they allow to appear in journals.
01:35:59.000And I'm just, I don't know what to do anymore.
01:36:02.000This is a major change that needs to happen.
01:36:07.000We need to highlight the conflict of interest in the journals.
01:36:11.000So nowadays, I trust more in preprint than published papers, actually.
01:36:20.000The only point is those who complain about preprints, the only thing they do is they are admitting that they're not able to read an article because they want the things ready.
01:36:28.000So when you have the preprint, the only difference is that you need to analyze the paper.
01:36:33.000Yeah, it's, you know, to Dr. Corey's point, and in most of my thinking, most of life is nuanced.
01:39:02.000And instead, we are public enemy, number one, for caring about our fellow human beings, no matter what your color, your height, your weight, your race, your ethnicity, your religion, whatever.
01:39:37.000I mean, look, your work on vitamin D was prolific.
01:39:40.000And I made the argument that if we had a robust vitamin D regimen, look at all the things that we could have prevented, right?
01:39:47.000School closures, mask mandates, vaccine mandates, you know, learning curves that went down, alcoholism, suicide, fentanyl overdoses, drug overdoses, rise in crime.
01:39:56.000All of it probably could have gone back if we had a vitamin D regimen.
01:39:59.000I don't think that's an oversimplification.
01:40:01.000From everything you've published, and I see vitamin D levels over 50, you know, you got a really good shot.
01:40:14.000Not was a single person above 50 that had any complication.
01:40:19.000Yeah, and so, but despite all of that and how you guys are labeled and you lose business and all of this, there are millions, tens of millions of people that are with you.
01:40:29.000They might not know your name, many do, but they're with what you're fighting for.
01:40:32.000And that's kind of where I want to close this conversation, which is we have the truckers in Canada that are doing everything they possibly can.
01:40:40.000And I just love seeing the left not to politicize it all of a sudden be like against labor.
01:41:50.000Oh, and I think they're going to grow.
01:41:51.000They're going to pick it up as they go.
01:41:53.000Well, and that's the thing: is that if the Canadians can do it, you drive through Kansas, you're going to have a couple thousand, tens of thousands already.
01:42:14.000And I'm going to do a whole show on this Monday: I'm going to do a huge warning for federal government infiltration, provoking hate groups trying to get.
01:43:18.000Yeah, because come on, look at, you know, you just mentioned those regions in Canada, but look at the countries, right?
01:43:23.000The European countries, they're increasing the number of days.
01:43:26.000They're dropping not only masks, but everything, vaccine passports and mandates.
01:43:30.000And so those numbers, it's got to keep rolling.
01:43:33.000Now, the police states that are just really fortified, I mean, I don't know when they're going to fall, but I mean, you know, there is that domino effect.
01:43:42.000I really believe that's going to happen here.
01:47:34.000You know, if something scientific and works and we're allowed to see all the data and have informed consent, then I think people are going to look at it and say, I'll do that.
01:47:43.000But if you tell me I have to do it, forget about it.
01:48:23.000So first of all, so I have to always remember: you know, Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, FLCCC.net, we're an organization that develops the most effective treatment protocols for all phases of COVID.
01:48:37.000And let's be clear: prevention, early treatment, hospital treatment, but most importantly, because we're going to see an epidemic of this, but long-haul COVID and post-vaccine injury.
01:49:02.000And I am detailing every element and every action in this disinformation campaign by the pharmaceutical industry here at Cybermech.
01:49:10.000And I think it's important that the public be aware of what's happened, how they operate, and that this stuff has to stop.
01:49:17.000And so if you're interested, go to my sub stack, follow it.
01:49:21.000And then what folks can do, again, on the health front, I would, you know, maybe I'll just go full circle.
01:49:26.000You know, go to our protocols to give yourself agency for this illness to maintain health, protect health, particularly in COVID.
01:49:34.000And then in the bigger picture, I got to tell you, I really think when you see the efficacy of the convoy, I mean, Ryan and I were talking about, I mean, a convoy is almost indefensible.
01:49:46.000You can't defend yourself against a convoy of thousands of truckers.
01:49:50.000I want people to come out with the flags.
01:50:28.000I think another important thing you're going to see is those of us who've been oppressed, you're going to see a lot of us running for office.
01:50:36.000We're going to step into these things and never allow this to happen again.
01:50:40.000Well, do you think that there could be a form of justice done with this?
01:50:44.000I mean, you can talk about Nuremberg or all this stuff, but.
01:50:47.000I think that the overreach and the depravity that we've spent a lot of this panel discussing, right?
01:50:53.000I think that overreach, especially like when I talk about my sub-site, they've laid bare their methods, their rapaciousness.
01:51:05.000You know, you're going to have, if you're talking really, Charlie, about the amount of people waking up and getting wise to this stuff, I think almost like Napoleon's foray into Russia, they've overextended themselves, and now we can catch them.
01:51:19.000And my hopes are that not only Ryan runs, but other like-minded people run.
01:51:23.000But there's also a lot of people in government right now who realize how broken that system is.
01:51:27.000I mean, Ron Johnson's a leader on this.
01:53:25.000Well, I want to thank you guys for what you're doing for Liberty.
01:53:28.000And I think you bring up an important point, which is I think medical freedom, medical tyranny, the betrayal of our Constitution is the number one issue this year.
01:53:56.000I do believe in the next couple of years, they're going to try to do another virus scare, which is why I think fixes and justice need to happen, right?