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00:03:16.000Why aren't churches opening the doors?
00:03:21.000It's something that's been, first of all, you deserve credit for opening your doors and staying open because not enough churches have done that.
00:03:31.000Number two, it's really been something that's really been frustrating for me, you know, as a believer, as an evangelical Christian, but also in the political space.
00:03:39.000I've seen this in the last seven months.
00:03:42.000A lot of pastors get involved in politics incorrectly and really clumsily.
00:03:48.000Some of them pandering to BLM Incorporated, critical race theory, and others that have said we must obey everything that the government tells us no matter what.
00:03:57.000And they hide behind what I think is a very sloppy and lazy reading of Romans 13.
00:04:03.000But what's been really telling is how these churches have grown very comfortable doing the YouTube live stream church format where they pre-tape their sermon on Tuesday or Thursday.
00:04:15.000They see all the tithes and offerings come in.
00:04:17.000They don't have to deal with everyone after service.
00:04:21.000They'll be like, yeah, it's actually been really nice the last six months.
00:04:25.000And that's not what the church is supposed to be.
00:04:27.000The church is actually supposed to be culturally disagreeable by nature.
00:04:32.000The church is supposed to be kind of a thorn in the side of secular humanism.
00:04:38.000Like the church is supposed to be a light in the darkness by definition.
00:04:46.000And so you asked, why are so many churches not doing this?
00:04:51.000I kind of divide it into a couple different buckets.
00:04:54.000At this point now, in November, the grace side of my conversation has basically evaporated.
00:05:00.000I'm going to be very honest with you, okay?
00:05:02.000Like, I'm just going to, I'm confiding in you publicly, right?
00:05:04.000So when I was giving this speech back in June or July at Jack Hibbs' church or Rob McCoy's church, I was like, well, maybe they don't really understand the significance of this.
00:05:12.000In August, I was like, we're still waiting for them to understand the significance.
00:06:14.000Like, that's a very bizarre argument to make when you allow Planned Parenthood to stay open.
00:06:18.000And yet, if you're BLM Incorporated doing a peaceful protest to go riot and destroy and loot and burn the streets of your cities, then that's perfectly acceptable.
00:06:27.000If you want to go celebrate the victory of the Los Angeles Lakers winning the NBA finals, then you're allowed to go in the streets, thousands of you, no social distancing, no masks.
00:06:36.000And I said this throughout the last couple months, and I think this is now, you know, completely, you can't argue against this, is that this is the greatest attack on religious liberty in American history.
00:06:48.000The church has always been their goal.
00:06:50.000They're just finding new and creative ways to go after it.
00:06:53.000And so, again, if we were all here, if we just decided to move this gathering to French laundry and invite our governor.
00:08:00.000And if you are in that category, we're not forcing you to come to church, okay?
00:08:05.000This is not that you get jury duty if you don't go to church, okay?
00:08:08.000You could watch on the live stream, you could do that, and that's fine.
00:08:12.000But for the 99.5% of the remaining population that has a higher likelihood of dying from an accidental firework discharge, then you should allow them to come to church.
00:08:27.000And I'll also say, look, this is a real testing moment, right?
00:08:31.000And I think that God is testing the church because there's been a lot of fiery sermons and a lot of, you know, really, you know, compelling narratives that a lot of these churches have been telling the last couple of years.
00:09:04.000I say, did you miss the part in, I think it's Daniel 6, when Daniel was told by the king to stop practicing the rabbinical traditions of prayer.
00:09:15.000And it says clearly in the text, he heard the order.
00:09:20.000He then intentionally disobeyed the order by opening his window towards the city and being like, you're going to now look at me, pray, and I will now suffer the consequences.
00:09:33.000You know, I think we ought to open the windows and get a little louder so they know that we're here.
00:09:38.000So let's pivot and talk about COVID because COVID was the event that opened the door, so to speak, that the government stepped inside the church.
00:10:31.000And our governor is, I think he's lost his mind.
00:10:35.000I think there's things that he's telling people to do.
00:10:38.000So, can you just break it down to us what COVID is?
00:10:43.000And in this moment, without all the political rhetoric around it, how should a believer process COVID?
00:10:50.000Yeah, and I'll actually build off of one thing that you said.
00:10:54.000I might see it a little bit differently when it comes to Newsome, and you might find it interesting.
00:10:57.000But I'll start with: look, this is a virus that was probably manufactured in a laboratory in the Wuhan Virology Institute.
00:11:05.000It was either intentionally or unintentionally released, but assuredly was covered up by the Chinese communist government.
00:11:11.000It's incredibly contagious, not very lethal per other RNA sequencing that it could have been.
00:11:18.000And it's almost, it's very suspicious.
00:11:20.000If you were trying to create a virus that you could live with, meaning like you could sleep well at night, infecting the entire world, it would be this, right?
00:11:28.000It would go after old people, not young people, people with preexisting conditions.
00:11:32.000And they probably released it on their entire public.
00:12:13.000If you are over the age of 70 and you have preexisting underlying health conditions and you don't have a strong respiratory system, then you are absolutely at risk.
00:12:21.000And this virus can be more vicious than anything we've seen at the contagious levels in recent memory.
00:12:28.000However, if you're 10 years old through 30 years old, there are numerous other activities that we do every single day that are far more dangerous.
00:12:35.000Driving, for example, is far more dangerous for a young high school kid to drive to high school than actually getting the Chinese coronavirus.
00:12:42.000And so, but I think that what's been really disappointing is how we have now allowed state-run actors such as Newsom to now use this really as an opportunity to now make America in their image.
00:12:54.000And here's the one thing: you say Newsom has lost his mind.
00:12:57.000If you're trying to impart, you know, if you're trying to impart wisdom and rationality and reason upon his decisions, he has a different way of looking at this.
00:13:21.000I mean, we have endless amounts of tape from Justin Trudeau to the ruling class of Britain to Boris Johnson, where they say now we can finally tackle systemic racism and we can go after international climate change and we can now eradicate private property.
00:13:37.000It's all part of this thing called the Great Reset, which is part of the Davos meeting that's coming up this February, where the whole idea is now that we have crippled the backbone of middle-class workers in the West, we can addict them to government programs, we can fill them with whatever sort of vaccinations that we want, we can pander the pharmaceutical lobbies.
00:13:56.000And so here's a really important thing that we have to recognize and realize: it is absolutely a real virus.
00:14:01.000The way we've handled it has been so incredibly almost immature and improper and fear-driven and has destroyed people's lives.
00:14:09.000I mean, our reaction has destroyed people's lives.
00:14:12.000And we don't talk about that enough, where we've lost more young people to suicide than actually to the virus in this state, right?
00:14:18.000That we have, there will be small businesses that will never reopen.
00:14:21.000Over 270,000 small businesses will never reopen in our country.
00:14:26.000And so the question is: if in January you were wondering what's it going to take to make people more likely to go get government assistance, they've accomplished that goal in 11 months.
00:14:35.000Now, whether that, I'm not saying that they plan the virus to come, the American Democrat Party, that's not what I'm saying.
00:14:41.000What I'm saying is they saw this, and they have these pre-existing policy goals that they've been talking about for some time.
00:14:48.000And through the fear and through the surrender that people have because they have no more capital left to spend, I mean, people are basically saying, please come and give me another check from the government.
00:14:59.000I mean, part of it is we've destroyed a lot of people's capacity to make a living, whether it be waiters or waitresses, small business owners, the whole muscular class in this country has been completely, you know, just destroyed.
00:15:11.000And this is another thing that the reaction to our virus has done is it's only made rich people richer, and it's only made people that have capital have an easier time to be able to deploy it.
00:15:22.000And so we kind of have these two economic classes that have been created in this country.
00:15:26.000And Victor Davis Hanson talked about this.
00:15:28.000And I've really kind of built this out even further, which is you have the Zoom and Skype class and the muscular class.
00:15:35.000And so if you are watching or listening to this and you don't have to leave your home to make a living every single day, then you shouldn't be the ones actually making the decisions for the rest of the country because you're actually in the small minority.
00:15:46.000If you have the luxury of being able to have everything delivered to your front door, if you are able to be in the intelligence economy where you just have to open up your laptop at 9 a.m. and you get to do a bunch of Zoom calls, well, there are 100 million people that don't have that opportunity.
00:16:17.000They can go through another nine months of lockdowns.
00:16:19.000The truck driver that all of a sudden has his routes decreased or the person who stocks your shelves or the person that is a carpenter or a plumber that all of a sudden isn't allowed into homes, they can't go through another round of this.
00:16:34.000And Newsom and Garcetti, they want more people to be on government assistance and they want to make America in their image.
00:16:42.000And so you have a very real virus with an awful reaction to it, suffering that was created by their reaction to it, and then a set of policy goals that are now going to try to be pushed because people are in such a state of suffering.
00:16:55.000And here's the sad reality to it: this could all be handled the exact opposite.
00:17:01.000Where if we fully reopened our country and we gave one speech where we get a speech that says, we in America handle things differently than you do in Europe.
00:17:09.000In Europe, you bow to the civil servants and the bureaucrats and the politicians.
00:17:15.000The American system, we have an American trinity in this country, which is e pluribus unum, liberty, and id God we trust.
00:17:21.000The most operative of what I'm talking about is liberty, which is you can do really foolish things in this country, but you have to take responsibility for your life.
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00:19:02.000They will not stop unless we stop them.
00:19:04.000What do I mean is that this will be a decades-long problem that they then try to improperly solve, and they have to try to solve those problems.
00:19:14.000It's very much, and again, I don't want to get too philosophical here, but it's under this thing called the Hegelian dialectic, where you have a problem, but then you create an even bigger problem, but your solution is half as bad as the problem, and you swoop in as the savior of the problem that you actually created.
00:19:31.000And this is what they did with healthcare.
00:20:26.000And that's a thing that all of a sudden we kind of like, well, you know, I was into it until I have to actually, no, You must have to complete the arc or else the leaders will not take what you're saying seriously.
00:20:37.000And it's a very important point: you must be willing to get arrested, face jail time, face a judge, and then all of a sudden, the weight of what you're fighting will then all of a sudden be challenged.
00:20:53.000And they're not going to be able to arrest 80 million of us.
00:21:02.000I'm not talking about being reckless or being doing anything that would intentionally try and put someone in a compromising situation.
00:21:12.000What I am saying, though, is that if a public health official shows up here, you're going to say, like, you're going to have to arrest every single one of our congregants because we're going to keep having church.
00:21:22.000And the same for the small business people.
00:21:25.000And we just saw this in New York City.
00:21:27.000It was actually one of the most optimistic news articles I read this morning where 80 businesses in the New York City area, they told Andrew Cuomo, you're going to have to arrest all of us.
00:22:11.000And if that's true, okay, then our reaction should have been a little bit different.
00:22:14.000But then all of a sudden, we started to realize the science and the therapeutics and who it's impacting.
00:22:18.000And around like day 15 of stopping this spread, we were like, well, this doesn't make a lot of sense why all of a sudden we're intentionally destroying our entire civil society over something that impacts a very small subset of the population who actually does not represent a lot of the wealth creating engine of the country, right?
00:22:36.000So instead, our entire posture should have been a World War II mindset where we protect the nursing homes and protect the vulnerable, but we release and empower students to actually live their life.
00:22:53.000And it's almost as if they wanted that crisis to continue on.
00:22:56.000And so where is it going is this, is if good people continue to do nothing, then this is going to go a direction that we're not going to like.
00:23:04.000I'm going to tell you right now, we are flirting with seven simultaneous crises that are about to occur, whether it be the debt crisis, a capital crisis, human population crisis, a cultural crisis, generational crisis.
00:23:18.000I have nothing but bad news to share about all that stuff.
00:23:26.000The only solution to all that is you just open the doors and you allow hundreds of millions of people to re-enter into their life.
00:23:33.000And this is the one, and if I could say one other thing, which actually I was wrong about, and it was really interesting, is that I was going around to churches like this all throughout September and October, and you guys were probably agreed with me.
00:23:45.000Oh, as soon as after the election, this thing's going to go away and they're going to open up the country.
00:24:09.000Now that they don't have an accountability measure, now that they don't have to pay a price of the ballot box, Whitmer and all these people are now intensifying the lockdowns.
00:24:18.000Remember, we were saying the opposite?
00:24:20.000All of us were like, just wait to the election.
00:24:28.000And that only confirms my suspicion that the fear surrounding this and the lockdowns and the suffering is part of an agenda-driven political philosophy where they want to make this country in their image.
00:25:21.000No, I just wanted to make, and I've been one of the most outspoken people on this topic, probably kind of to a great personal cost, quite honestly, because there's very few topics that really get the censors as agitated as this topic.
00:25:39.000And, you know, I worked very hard to get the president re-elected.
00:25:43.000I know convincingly what happened on election night, which was a red wave.
00:27:32.000And so I come from Chicago, the suburbs of Chicago, where voter fraud is part of our tradition, where my grandmother was a lifelong Republican, passed away in the mid-1990s.
00:27:42.000She's been voting Democrat ever since, right?
00:27:44.000I mean, that's part of our political history.
00:27:49.000And this is what really frustrates me about this whole conversation around voter fraud: people say there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
00:27:56.000And so, if all of us just decided to go to every restaurant and laundromat in this local area, we wouldn't see any evidence of money laundering until you start to investigate it.
00:28:08.000It's kind of one of those things that you don't see it until you start to actually launch serious investigations into it.
00:28:13.000For example, five or six years ago, people said there's no evidence of widespread child sex trafficking.
00:28:19.000Turns out, as soon as you start to get federal agents dedicated to finding that there are children that are being trafficked for evil purposes, it starts to uncover itself.
00:28:29.000And so, when you have, this is what it always, it's such an unbelievably dumb argument that the media makes.
00:28:36.000You have 160 million people participating in an exercise to assume control of a $4 trillion government for four years that can control the entire political climate of the globe.
00:28:49.000And people cheat in traffic, they treat in casinos, they cheat on taxes, they cheat everywhere except when it comes to voting to take and assume control of a $4 trillion government for four years to assume the entire geopolitical climate of the planet.
00:29:07.000That's the one thing where people all of a sudden say, I'm going to now find the highest moral order imaginable.
00:29:13.000I mean, we are a country that where 10% of our citizenry will go in the correction system in one way or the other.
00:29:20.000There's plenty of examples of people that commit crimes.
00:29:48.000And when I started to get very angry, and when I started to really look into this seriously, is when all of a sudden the networks weren't calling Florida and Ohio for Trump as they were coming in.
00:30:01.000I said, there's something very wrong here.
00:30:03.000I said, he's going to win Florida by three points.
00:30:07.000And I said, there has been a stand down order to make this thing into an all-week affair.
00:30:13.000And you guys saw that on election night, right?
00:30:15.000Like, we saw that he was doing well in Florida.
00:30:17.000They did not want the sequence of momentum where it'd be Florida and Ohio.
00:30:22.000And all of a sudden, we were then putting pressure on the urban cities to count their votes.
00:30:27.000Instead, as if the public pressure was let off and they waited till midnight to call these states that were already completely and totally, you know, in the president's favor.
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00:32:26.000Where you intercept ballots that come and from nursing homes.
00:32:29.000Now, a majority of those people that registered to vote were in addresses that had other people registered at very address.
00:32:36.000So these are nursing homes where you have hundreds or thousands of people that are at that specific population where you have people that take advantage of that.
00:32:43.000Okay, so that's a practice that I call ballot laundering.
00:32:46.000Now, this is something that now we have whistleblowers in Wisconsin.
00:32:50.000She just came up in Milwaukee and she said very clearly that all 20 of her developmentally disabled patients, all 20, were forced to vote for Joe Biden.
00:34:23.000Why do we have this multi-month lame duck period?
00:34:26.000It's because when you have something as important as electing a president, the certification state by state, time is actually built in from the founders for us to find this out.
00:34:38.000And the media and the political class, they intentionally don't want us to ask these questions, right?
00:34:44.000So they intentionally don't want us to ask the question of why is it that Milwaukee said they took the night off and then all of a sudden they dropped 300 and000 ballots for Biden at 3.42 in the morning after all the poll watchers went home.
00:35:02.000I just ask a sequence of questions, okay?
00:35:04.000And they're like, you don't love your country.
00:35:05.000I'm like, okay, again, I would like to know why is it there was a sudden surge of 90 plus year olds that registered a vote in the midst of a pandemic of a 1,774% increase in Pennsylvania.
00:35:21.000And as soon as you stop being allowed to answer or ask these questions, then the totalitarians will have won.
00:35:28.000And I'm telling you, whether or not, and the president can still come out of this, the chances are undetermined, right?
00:35:36.000If the Supreme Court comes in and says these ballots were not allowed to be overseen, this system is corrupted, and we're still going to try to find out if there was something to the Dominion voting systems and Hammer and scorecard and all these different sorts of things.
00:35:48.000And there might be truth to it, there might not be.
00:35:50.000But again, we all know what we saw nationwide.
00:35:53.000And here's the best argument: when you win 20 to 28 competitive House seats, when you flip three state legislatures, when you are able to win up and down in California in ways that we never thought possible, when President Trump does better with blacks and Hispanics, and yet in the four cities that matter, it is the only urban variation from that, that is more than enough reason to call timeout.
00:36:18.000And that's the main basis for our inquiry.
00:37:11.000And we don't do a good enough job explaining this.
00:37:13.000And this is what Biden and Harris would do if they assume the mantle of government, which is a lot, what you would have is a corporate takeover of your government.
00:37:23.000And it wouldn't be socialist immediately.
00:37:27.000It would be much more fascist, if not cronyist, where you would have a small select companies that would be protected and given a platform that they would almost become the rulers of the feudal system in America.
00:37:42.000So they wouldn't immediately abolish all private property.
00:37:48.000What we are entering right now in America is almost the post-capitalist period.
00:37:52.000And it's this very turbulent economic climate that we're about to enter, where you're going to have multi-trillion dollar companies that will work in tandem with the government.
00:38:05.000So whether it be the tech companies or the Wall Street banks or the Fortune 100 companies, all of a sudden you're going to see a corporate takeover of America, right?
00:38:14.000And so, and that's just as bad as socialism.
00:38:18.000The fact that we are not allowed to criticize Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter, and how they are given preferential treatment to a certain political party and philosophy should bother us just as much as Bernie Sanders saying he's going to take over the entire Government.
00:38:39.000And we'll build this out further, which is that we as conservatives and Christians should be apprehensive and skeptical of centralized power in government and in corporate America, both.
00:38:50.000And we as conservatives don't challenge corporate interests enough.
00:38:53.000And I get it because we used to think they were on our side, and they used to be.
00:38:57.000But now the corporations have realized that if they betray the tenets of capitalism and they bribe the proper politicians and they hire the correct lobbyists, then they can get their incumbency protected, where we will live in this dystopian nightmare where middle-class workers and small businesses have no possibility whatsoever of succeeding.
00:39:22.000And the hyper-corporatization of America will ensue, where, yeah, we'll still have some form of choices, but the choice is: do you want an Amazon box delivered to your door?
00:39:32.000Or do you want, you know, do you want to tell Alexa or Google to have you...
00:39:35.000That's not a country I want to live in.
00:39:37.000Where all of a sudden we have a group of people that have nothing but contempt for our value system, that almost you have no choice but to buy your products from five different companies.
00:39:46.000And that's only going to be made more possible by their fusion with the federal government.
00:39:52.000And so socialism is not what's coming next.
00:39:54.000It's a cronyist capitalistic model that actually, I think, will confuse people more than anything else.
00:40:02.000And it's the opposite of what is healthy for a republic.
00:40:12.000From a biblical worldview that we have, we believe that God, Jesus declared it, that he's going to build his church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
00:40:23.000So we feel like commissioned here to storm the gates of hell.
00:40:44.000And so here's the hope: is that if Christians and the church really embodied their proper role in civil government, which you guys are doing here amazingly, none of these issues we would be talking about.
00:40:59.000If Biden and Harris become president, it will be because of Christians that elected him.
00:41:06.000It was a 3% to 4% undervote amongst Bible-believing, regular church-attending evangelical Christians that undervoted towards Trump, towards Biden in Georgia and Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
00:41:17.000So why is that all of a sudden a hope-filled message?
00:41:20.000So Jesus Christ at Caesarea Philippi said, on this rock, build my church.
00:41:24.000Now, we say church, but let's go back to actually the Koine Greek, which was a term called ecclesia.
00:41:32.000Now, an ecclesia was actually a physical gathering of Greek citizens that were coming together for the betterment of their polis or their body politic, their local area.
00:41:43.000Why did Jesus use that term and not synagogue or temple?
00:41:47.000Some theologians would argue, and I completely agree with this, he used that term because Jesus wanted comprehensive, not compartmentalized Christianity.