00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Congressman Chip Roy joins the program and Congressman Jim Jordan, two electeds, walk us through the latest impeachment fight.
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00:01:39.000Well, we're going to keep digging for the facts and the truth, but this latest revelation from the IRS whistleblower, where it sounds like the U.S. Attorney in Delaware was requesting special counsel status and it was denied by, according to the whistleblower, denied by the Attorney General of the United States, and that contradicts what the attorney fight to under oath in front of the United States Senate when he said, no, he'd take a hands-off approach.
00:02:02.000He'd let David Weiss, the U.S. Attorney in Delaware, run the case the way he felt was needed.
00:02:08.000And as a result of not having special counsel status, the case wasn't able to be brought in the District of Columbia or the Central District of California, which is where these tax matters should have been prosecuted.
00:02:18.000And I just had one other thing, Charlie.
00:02:19.000Understand, because it couldn't be brought there, this wound up allowing the 2014 tax year for Hunter Biden that dealt with barisma, all that income for that year, not to be able to be prosecuted against that statute of limitations run on that.
00:02:42.000We've got to continue to do our work and do the investigation on Merrigarland, on my orcas, and frankly, on the president.
00:02:48.000Yeah, so just as a side note, impeachment of cabinet officials is possible, but it's rare.
00:02:54.000Usually we think of impeachment proceedings of presidents.
00:02:58.000Is it a similar process, Congressman, as far as starts in the House and it gets to get out of committee, then a floor vote goes to the Senate?
00:03:05.000And look, anytime we do it, we would do it in a way that I think provides a real due process, unlike what they did to President Trump both the first and second time, but certainly the second time, but even the first time where I sat in the bunker in the basement of the Capitol, we were doing depositions.
00:03:52.000We now have this 1023 form where you have a foreign national alleging that That used the term the big guy.
00:04:00.000So you have people now on both sides of the equation, Hunter Biden's business partner using that term, someone who was actually paying the money to the Biden family using that term.
00:04:10.000The 1023 form, according to the whistleblower, says that the Confidential Human Source said that these conversations were happening, money in exchange for policy decisions.
00:04:21.000And now you have this IRS issue where you got the WhatsApp message.
00:04:26.000You got all the details that the whistleblower has brought forward with what the Justice Department did, Biden's Justice Department did.
00:04:32.000I don't think we're there yet, but I do think if the facts take us there, we are constitutionally bound.
00:04:38.000If this is a high crime, bribery, treason, misdemeanor, the definition of the Constitution, if we get there, then we'll have to do that.
00:04:45.000But we got to continue to investigate first.
00:05:09.000And, you know, we want to make sure if we do it, we go through the right due process, that, you know, the president has his side of the story.
00:05:17.000Like, hey, you know, Hunter Biden seems to say in these text messages that he could do whatever he can get you to do whatever he wants to do.
00:05:57.000So we got some people we need to talk to.
00:05:59.000I also think we need to talk to, in addition to Mr. Weiss, we need to talk to Leslie Wolf, the assistant U.S. Attorney there in Delaware, because again, according to the whistleblower, she said that we're not going to, she stopped the search warrant.
00:06:12.000She stopped any questions about Joe Biden were not allowed to be asked when they were interviewing other witnesses and other people part of this tax issue.
00:06:22.000And she even said you can't use the term the big guy.
00:06:26.000So why were those limitations put on the investigators who said that this was completely out of the norm, that this thing was slow walk and all kinds of things that were done differently than anyone else?
00:06:36.000And that's always the fundamental problem.
00:06:39.000Charlie, 60% of the country believe that there is a double standard at the Justice Department.
00:06:45.000And they believe that because there is.
00:06:50.000That is not how this great country is supposed to operate.
00:06:52.000And once again, according to these whistleblowers, Mr. Shapley and the other one who's remained anonymous, they're talking about this double standard that they see at the Justice Department.
00:07:02.000So, I mean, the question I think a lot of people have is then, will this be deemed or described as political?
00:07:12.000And so are we worried that going into 2024, it's going to be labeled that way?
00:07:17.000And is there a timeline that, you know, as you're in charge of judiciary that you're operating on?
00:07:24.000Because as we go from the summer into the fall, you know, certain priorities start to come and go.
00:07:29.000But I also want to make sure I mention this, Congressman, before I ask about the timeline, is I want to compliment you and the House.
00:07:35.000You guys have been able to get this done in six months.
00:07:38.000And so, Congressman, being around previous House majorities and this one, what is the difference?
00:07:44.000How have you been able to get these otherwise encrypted text messages, get the FBI to cooperate, where in previous Congress sessions, it seems like Republicans were afraid to issue subpoenas or even contempt hearings?
00:07:57.000How are you able to achieve such results so quickly in oversight?
00:08:04.000Yeah, I think it's a couple things, Charlie.
00:08:06.000You know, one, you know, Representative Comer and Chairman Comer, Chairman Smith of the respective committees have done good work.
00:08:14.000But I also think, in addition to just the hard work, I mean, we're doing five, six depositions every week on a host of things from the weaponization of government on censorship and all these various agencies.
00:08:26.000They're just, they just transcribed interviews is what we call them, but they're depositions every stinking week, and we just continue to plow ahead.
00:08:31.000That's how we found out about what's going on with FTC and the IRS and all this and Justice Department, Department of Homeland Security.
00:08:56.000Our lawyers on our committee staff are the best at this.
00:08:59.000And so we've had a number of whistleblowers come forward.
00:09:01.000And I think that carried over into this session.
00:09:04.000It's why you saw Mr. Shapley and Mr. X, the anonymous whistleblower, come forward and talk with Congress.
00:09:10.000So I think laying that groundwork, we had dozens come forward in the last couple of years talking about what was going on in these federal agencies.
00:09:18.000I think that just coupled with good old-fashioned hard work on behalf of the staff and the committee members on oversight, ways and means, and I think judiciary as well.
00:09:27.000Congressman, I want you to keep fighting hard.
00:09:29.000And I know that it's going to be a pretty consequential summer.
00:09:31.000I personally think it's time to proceed with impeachment of definitely Merrick Garland and probably Joe Biden.
00:09:37.000I know it's going to fall deaf in the Senate.
00:09:38.000These allegations are serious, though.
00:09:41.000And you have to put them through, you have to put them in the public eye.
00:09:46.000And if they were willing to use impeachment over a phone call with Donald Trump, yeah, selling out America for millions of dollars from our enemies, that probably is worth impeachment.
00:09:55.000Congressman Jim Jordan, thank you so much and keep the pressure on.
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00:17:55.000Joining us now is Congressman Chip Roy.
00:17:59.000Several topics I want to cover with him.
00:18:01.000Congressman, thank you for joining the program.
00:18:03.000I want your take on the Wagner-Russian Putin drama, especially in the light of the new resolution that you introduced to try to get us out of these silly and endless wars.
00:18:14.000Congressman Chip Roy, the floor is yours.
00:18:16.000Well, Charlie, first of all, thank you.
00:18:22.000You know, last week I joined with a few of my colleagues, including Senator Rand Paul in the Senate and Warren Davidson in the House of Representatives, for example, to introduce legislation that says, you know, look, guys, you know, if Article 5 is going to be invoked for NATO, which for your listeners, right, that's the provision, our NATO agreement, saying that, you know, if they're under attack or, you know, if they're facing threat, that we are obliged to get in and support in some form or fashion.
00:18:48.000We wanted to remind them that Article 5 comes with an obligation to follow American law and American constitutional authority.
00:19:02.000Obviously, what we're seeing on fold in Russia, it kind of just begs the question of what we're getting ourselves mired into.
00:19:10.000I don't have the latest today because I'm literally off the grid down along the Rio Grande.
00:19:15.000But, you know, we're seeing, like, there's more of the same out of Russia.
00:19:19.000And everybody just thinks suddenly one day we're going to wake up and it's going to be all peachy and roses.
00:19:23.000And, you know, oh, yeah, now we're going to have a liberal democracy spring forth.
00:19:27.000Look, the fact is we just got to do our job, focus on America first.
00:19:32.000I think former President Trump had that right.
00:19:35.000And make sure that we're exerting force around the globe, but peace through strength, right?
00:19:40.000Sparingly use military, peace through strength.
00:19:44.000Well, yeah, how about we bring some representative government principles to our country?
00:19:48.000I mean, Congressman, I laugh because you have Lindsey Graham and some of your colleagues in the Senate.
00:19:53.000Talk about how awful Russia is because Russia is imprisoning their political opponents and that how it's a threat to the Western order.
00:20:02.000I say, wait a second, we're acting more like Russia recently than not.
00:20:07.000And I'm not saying that we're as bad as Russia or any of that overly simplified DC double talk garbage, but we're not exactly a shining city on the hill right now for how our justice system is being used.
00:20:18.000So, Congressman, when you talk to your colleagues about what's happening in Ukraine, what do they tell you success looks like?
00:20:25.000This is something I really can't draw out.
00:20:27.000When we have guests on the program, I get double talk and dodging and really innuendo.
00:20:33.000What is the Republican, and you obviously stand on the rational and prudent side, but what is the majority Republican belief?
00:20:41.000When you talk privately, what do they think is the best case scenario right now in Ukraine?
00:20:47.000Well, first of all, let me just take a few seconds to reinforce what you said about, you know, these guys want us to go around flexing our muscle around the globe, you know, challenging these authoritarian states when our own country is acting as an authoritarian state against its own people.
00:21:03.000Well, the government weaponized against it, whether it's the IRS or the FBI.
00:21:07.000Now we're seeing what's been happening with the two-tier system with Hunter Biden.
00:21:10.000You know, get in all the details there.
00:21:30.000The question here is what's in our strategic interest.
00:21:34.000What's in our national security interest to make our country safer and stronger?
00:21:38.000And at the end of the day, what's really happening, Charlie, and it's the same thing with the debt deal, the same thing with the appropriations process.
00:21:46.000The defense hawks want to just keep their whole machine going in Washington, spending more money in the name of defense, using that as an excuse to mortgage our future, undermining our very physical strength, and empowering bureaucrats that are empowering the very authoritarian state that we say we want to go try to go around the world policing.
00:22:07.000You don't have to be isolationist and you don't have to be a warmonger.
00:22:10.000You can actually believe in peace through strength, exerting your force through having a strong military, but sparingly used, and making sure that you're backing that up with, for example, in Ukraine, we should have a strong independent American energy policy that strengthens our hand rather than weakening our hand.
00:22:29.000Yeah, I just, the more I learn about how the intel networks work and the more I learn about how we are fed false narratives, I really wonder why we fall into this line of thinking, why we need so many military bases in every corner.
00:22:44.000We know that the government, the regime, operates on fear, and they used fear with COVID.
00:22:52.000They use fear with all sorts of different things.
00:22:57.000So I want to play this piece of tape here, Congress, and get your reaction.
00:22:59.000Lindsey Graham basically saying that Ukraine needs to be part of NATO.
00:23:02.000That's effectively what he's saying here, PlayCut 16.
00:23:05.000We're introducing a resolution today, since the Senate resolution that says that if Russia or Belarus or proxy of Russia explodes a nuclear device inside of Ukraine to stop the counteroffensive or to try to break the will of the Ukrainian people, such an attack should be considered an attack on NATO itself.
00:23:32.000Congressman, this is extraordinary language from a U.S. Senator.
00:23:36.000Well, these are effectively kind of dueling resolutions.
00:23:40.000In fact, I believe we dropped those or introduced, as we say, those bills on the same day.
00:23:46.000And the fact is, this is precisely the problem.
00:23:50.000You have members in Congress, you have senators who are itching to raise this up to effectively the status of war, war on the United States.
00:24:01.000And we believe, and my colleagues that introduced this resolution with me, we believe that it's important to state the opposite, frankly, that we have an obligation to make a decision at every turn whether or not something is in our national security interest and rises to the level of engagement of military force for our national security interests under our constitution.
00:24:23.000The declaration of war is supposed to mean something.
00:24:26.000Charlie, it's also one of the reasons why I've introduced, you know, our ability to end the authorization of the use of the military force in Iraq.
00:24:34.000Because last time I checked, Saddam Hussein's been dead for, I don't know, 15 plus years.
00:24:38.000Like, you know, we don't need to be operating under a 20-year-old authorization of the use of military force so the defense complex can have some more friggin toys.
00:24:46.000Like it's being used for all manners of sin, creating our government to be making our government bigger, more powerful, more authoritarian, undermining our freedom while go around to try to place world police.
00:24:58.000I believe in having a strong deterrent military.
00:25:15.000Cartels are acting with impunity, killing thousands of Americans with fentanyl.
00:25:21.000Yeah, so Congressman, this is what just drives me nuts is, I mean, we talk, we have Lindsey Graham and all these war hawks that want hundreds of billions of dollars more to be spent.
00:25:31.000Congressman, why don't we use our own military on the southern border before we care about Ukraine's border?
00:25:38.000Where does that ridiculous approach come from?
00:25:45.000Where does that come from, Congressman?
00:25:47.000Well, look, I mean, to the border question, we should, right?
00:25:51.000We should recognize the cartels or the equivalent of terrorist organizations or certainly, you know, criminal organizations, transnational criminal organizations.
00:26:05.000As Governor DeSantis said on the border just a little about an hour ago, he said, look, if somebody's cutting the fence down, that's like them breaking into your house.
00:26:12.000And you're allowed to use force to push back on someone breaking into your house.
00:26:17.000It ought to be the same if they're trying to break into your country, especially when their cartels, you know, cutting fence with blowtorches or whatever they're cutting them with and bringing in backpacks of fentanyl.
00:26:29.000Meanwhile, as you said, Lindsey Graham, as you said, the Warhawks in Washington, they've never met a conflict they didn't want to get us involved in.
00:26:38.000And look, I really do believe that is a part of an overall, both cultural and worse, sinister kind of cabal, if you will, in D.C., where everybody there is just basically built around, hey, let's just go get more money or more contracts to get more defense built up.
00:26:59.000And all of that is not tethered to a strategic plan to make our country safer.
00:27:05.000I could probably sign on to some more defense spending if it was built around a strategic goal of standing athwart China, sparingly using our military and really strong diplomacy where we are creating a massive amount of American energy.
00:27:19.000But instead, we're seeding all that ground while we then go try to meddle in more foreign engagements, which frankly, I bet more Ukrainians are dead than might have been had we not been throwing $113 billion in a blank check to Ukraine.
00:28:07.000If I had to rank an issue that is of the most importance, but the hardest for me to convince older conservatives of it is this issue of perpetual warmongering.
00:28:21.000There is this belief dating back to the 1980s, and Ronald Reagan is to blame for part of this, that we must have this overly bloated military at all times, and that the world is a petri dish where we get to select what leaders are in place, and that what happens in America is not as important as what happens internationally.
00:28:43.000Now, that's always been a bad idea, but you don't feel the effects of international nation building or international saber rattling until your own country starts to simultaneously fall apart, when you start to send away our industry and you keep the border completely wide open.
00:29:01.000War hawks in Congress, in both parties, by the way, from Chuck Schumer to Lindsey Graham, they've never seen a foreign conflict that they didn't want to get involved in.
00:29:12.000And they always use emotional arguments.
00:30:20.000And if I were to just communicate directly to the audience of people that are 50 ages, 50 years or older, this is not a popular position.
00:30:33.000You could even hear it a little bit in what Congressman Chip Roy was saying, and he was excellent on it.
00:30:37.000He's like, well, Charlie, again, I want a strong military.
00:30:40.000He has to say that, or else he's just going to get criticized as if he wants to gut our military.
00:30:45.000Our military's budget is $800 billion a year.
00:30:50.000They can't even be convinced to use some of that on our own southern border when we desperately need it.
00:30:56.000When we look back on the last 30 years of this experiment of invade the world, invite the world, is there a war where you look back and you say, well, that was a great idea.
00:31:09.000And the Persian Gulf War, there's a really interesting conspiracy theory around the Persian Gulf War that it was like a made-for-television event.
00:31:17.000That yes, people died, but it was largely produced by CNN.
00:31:38.000The question is: who are you first obligated to?
00:31:41.000Are you first loyal and obligated to your home nation, your actual country, or a country 5,000 miles away?
00:31:51.000If we actually want a strong military, here's an idea.
00:31:54.000Demand that our military stop doing tranny surgeries.
00:31:57.000Demand that we promote based on merit instead of skin color.
00:32:00.000Demand that we abolish our useless diversity bureaucracy and demand that our troops be in good physical shape.
00:32:08.000Urban blight, life expectancy rates dropping, massive amounts of debt piling up, our national unity all at an all-time low, and the overall health of our people is lower, not higher, and our southern border is completely wide open.
00:32:20.000Can we say that this international warmongering has been good for the American people?
00:32:25.000The veterans that come back and commit suicide?
00:32:27.000I think 23 veterans commit suicide daily in America.
00:32:30.000It's 23 or 26 or something in the 20s.