The Charlie Kirk Show - Transgenderism to Transhumanism with "Detransitioner" Ritchie Herron and Tech Writer Joe Allen

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk show, the trans issue.

00:00:03.000 We talk to someone who has detransitioned, has some very sharp words to the alphabet mafia.

00:00:08.000 Then what is trans humanism?

00:00:12.000 Joe Allen joins us.

00:00:14.000 It's a very informative conversation.

00:00:16.000 I would take notes throughout this episode and send it to your pastor and ask him, hey, are you well read on this subject?

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00:01:53.000 Joining us right now is Richie Heron.

00:01:56.000 He has a fabulous new piece out on humanevents.com, A Detransitioner's Perspective Awakening and the Dream of Gender Utopia.

00:02:04.000 Richie joins us right now.

00:02:06.000 Welcome to the program.

00:02:07.000 Hello.

00:02:08.000 Thank you very much for having me on, Charlie.

00:02:10.000 Yes, of course.

00:02:11.000 So, Richie, tell us your story.

00:02:14.000 At the age of 25, I began identifying as trans.

00:02:20.000 And at the age of 26, I began medically transitioning.

00:02:26.000 I'm male.

00:02:27.000 I was always male.

00:02:30.000 One of the things I mentioned in the article was about the lies living within the language.

00:02:35.000 So you might hear people saying things like male to female or male to female to male in my case.

00:02:43.000 But in my belief, I just say male.

00:02:46.000 You know, I never went to female. 0.99

00:02:48.000 I was always male.

00:02:49.000 I never switched no matter what I did to my body, which was I took an androgen blocker at the age of 26, which stopped the testosterone from working in my body.

00:03:02.000 Later, I would start estrogen not long after that.

00:03:05.000 And when I was at the age of 30, just a few days before my 31st birthday, actually, I had genital surgery, which I almost immediately regretted.

00:03:17.000 And by genital surgery, I mean a penile inversion with scrotal graft, which is they remove everything down there, drill a hole in your pelvis, turn it inside out. 0.69

00:03:28.000 It sounds horrific because it is. 0.98

00:03:31.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:03:33.000 They use these terms like bottom surgery and top surgery, but let's talk about what they are. 0.98

00:03:38.000 You know, these are mastectomies and breast augmentation on males.

00:03:44.000 And for females, obviously, they have the mastectomies, the hysterectomies, but they call it top and bottom surgery as if to, you know, just to fluff it up a bit.

00:03:55.000 But when you say a penile inversion with scrotal graph, that really paints a picture of what it is. 0.62

00:04:01.000 And to me, all these years later, now I'm 35. 0.90

00:04:06.000 So surgery was four years ago.

00:04:10.000 I immediately regretted it more or less instantly when I started coming around.

00:04:16.000 And now I'm seeking to live back as I was before I embarked in this journey.

00:04:21.000 And I've returned to my birth name.

00:04:23.000 Richie is just a nickname that I go by, but my name is Richard.

00:04:28.000 I've returned me full name, including me middle name too.

00:04:34.000 I was baptized, so I've kind of I don't go to church, but I have returned to that core identity because even though I'm not religious now as an adult, I still hold those values and I still find a lot of beauty and sentiment in the Bible, for instance.

00:04:53.000 And I think there's a lot of lessons to live by that, regardless if you're not super religious.

00:05:00.000 So Richie, let me ask you, you obviously regret it.

00:05:05.000 So you see tens of thousands of young people in America that are getting medically mutilated and are being sold kind of everything's going to get better.

00:05:16.000 For parents that are watching right now and grandparents that have kids that are entertaining this, what is your message to them?

00:05:25.000 My message to them is get them off the internet.

00:05:28.000 The internet fuels this addiction, whether it's the phone, whether it's on the computer or whatever, and get them outside and back in reality.

00:05:38.000 It's so important that they have an anchor back in the real world and they're not constantly looking on the phones and spending the time alone in the rooms.

00:05:47.000 And when it gets to older children, it's much, much more difficult, like over the age of 16 and 18 because you can't do this.

00:05:56.000 But if they're under the age of 16 or in some places, 18, I would fully say take that computer out of the room, for instance, have it in a family space.

00:06:07.000 And it's going to take work.

00:06:09.000 It's not something that you can argue with as well.

00:06:12.000 And also accept that for some people, this may be the answer.

00:06:17.000 But in my opinion, I feel like that is an extraordinarily low percentage of the actual people who do transition.

00:06:25.000 And I feel like a lot of people who transition now are either gay, autistic, bisexual, or just a little bit gender non-conforming.

00:06:34.000 And they've been robed into this idea that they need to be someone else to fix their sexuality as well.

00:06:41.000 Do you feel as if there's been an industry that has almost been created around this from the recruitment to the pushing of the medicine, from the surgery to the operation?

00:06:51.000 It feels as almost there's a corporate undertone to all this to recruit more kids to go through it.

00:06:56.000 Yeah.

00:06:57.000 So at the moment, I believe the global sex reassignment industry is set to increase by like 14% per year by 2030.

00:07:11.000 That is a multi-billion dollar market and is fast turning into it.

00:07:16.000 There's a lot of spending power within the LGBT sphere as well.

00:07:22.000 Recent financial experts have, as early as 2022 and 2019, they've put out in 2019, they put out a forecast that the combined spending power of LGBT adults was 1 trillion.

00:07:38.000 Now it's 5.2 trillion.

00:07:40.000 And it's like that covers a whole wide range of things.

00:07:44.000 But there is definitely a market that is being tapped into.

00:07:48.000 Is definitely, you know, if you want to see surgeons promoting this, there is a certain surgeon who spends a lot of time on TikTok glorifying all the work that she's doing or the plastic surgery that she's doing, and often on teenagers too.

00:08:08.000 And that is quite illuminating as well.

00:08:11.000 But the market is most certainly grown.

00:08:16.000 And also, there's some interesting stats around the cost to administer puberty blockers, especially in the US.

00:08:25.000 If you don't have health insurance, as you know, a lot of things go off.

00:08:28.000 But for instance, like the Lupron anti-hydrogen can cost up to $30,000 a year on an uninsured individual.

00:08:36.000 It can't be cheaper in a lot of other scenarios.

00:08:38.000 In the UK, we don't have those extreme costs, but there is most certainly a market.

00:08:45.000 So there's so many other kind of questions I want to ask you, but our time is kind of running thin here.

00:08:51.000 Let me kind of close you by close by asking something.

00:08:54.000 You said something really beautiful here in your piece.

00:08:56.000 The lies live within the language.

00:08:59.000 Even seemingly innocuous terms like male to female sell a certainty that one can change their sex through modical medical science.

00:09:05.000 Can you talk about how important language is in the protection of our children and the proliferation of hopefully truth, not lies?

00:09:12.000 Yeah, I mean, as I said, the lies live within the language.

00:09:16.000 And at the start, this is why before I came on, they were asking, how do you address you like a transitioner or an ex-transitioner?

00:09:23.000 And I was like, to be honest, I was always male.

00:09:25.000 The idea was if I took hormones and had surgery, I would become female.

00:09:30.000 That is a lie.

00:09:32.000 And that was embedded in the lie of trans women, which means trans literally means to go across, to become, to go over, which is a Latin term. 0.82

00:09:43.000 So trans woman means that you literally become a woman, male to female, as I said.

00:09:49.000 And even in the transition language, male to female to male still is peddling that idea that you go from male to female back to male.

00:10:00.000 It's not true.

00:10:01.000 You were always male.

00:10:02.000 You just took synthetic hormones and you had surgery and you changed your name.

00:10:07.000 That does not make you the other sex.

00:10:10.000 Richie Heron, thank you for joining us.

00:10:13.000 Very powerful and very courageous of you.

00:10:16.000 I pray that you reach somebody out there that needed to hear this about the mutilation and the castration that's happening to a generation.

00:10:24.000 Completely unnecessary.

00:10:25.000 You said something interesting.

00:10:26.000 You said some of these kids are probably gay, bisexual, lesbian, or autistic, and they're being preyed on by this industry.

00:10:33.000 They're the victims of this and it's irreversible damage.

00:10:36.000 Richie, thank you so much.

00:10:38.000 Thanks for having me.

00:10:39.000 See you soon.

00:10:40.000 Thank you.

00:10:41.000 The piece is up at humanevents.com.

00:10:42.000 That's humanevents.com if you want to check out his piece.

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00:12:01.000 What are the limits?

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00:12:26.000 And with us is a very smart man, Joe Allen.

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00:12:53.000 Charlie, thank you very much.

00:12:54.000 Good to be here.

00:12:56.000 So, Joe, let's make it somewhat simple for some listeners that have no idea what we're talking about, and then we'll go a little deeper as we progress.

00:13:04.000 What is transhumanism?

00:13:06.000 Well, the simplest definition of transhumanism is the goal to merge human beings with machines, both mechanical technology, but particularly digital technology.

00:13:19.000 So, the two sides of that, biology and technology, and trying to find the middle ground, not only conceptually, but in practice.

00:13:29.000 So, people talk about transhumanism.

00:13:31.000 Oftentimes, they're talking about everything from brain chips to fully conscious artificial intelligence to genetic engineering, in particular, the desire to create superhumans, a kind of eugenic program where instead of selective breeding being employed alone, you're talking about genetic editing.

00:13:50.000 Now, one really important aspect of transhumanism as a movement is the religious connotations of all of this, not just opposition to traditional religion.

00:14:02.000 But transhumanism is a fully expressed techno-religion.

00:14:07.000 It has a creation narrative, it has a salvation narrative, and in particular, more importantly, it has an apocalyptic narrative.

00:14:17.000 So, the creation story is human evolution by way of natural selection, which leaves flawed genes.

00:14:25.000 And then, the salvation story lies in correcting these flaws and perfecting humanity through technology.

00:14:34.000 And then, of course, the apocalypse or the revelation is maybe best embodied by Ray Kurzweil and his prediction of a technological singularity in which the exponential increase in technological sophistication will hit an inflection point, and you'll have self-improving artificial intelligence that has a hard takeoff sort of intelligence explosion.

00:15:00.000 And once that happens, it will feed back into genomics, it'll feed back into nanotechnology, it'll feed back into robotics.

00:15:07.000 And the vision that he puts forward is that by 2045, we will hit this technological singularity.

00:15:15.000 And at that point, beginning at the places such as Silicon Valley, such as maybe Boston, such as Shenzhen in China, we'll hit that inflection point and humanity will be irrevocably changed.

00:15:27.000 We will be completely different.

00:15:29.000 In fact, we will not be human.

00:15:31.000 We will be transhuman, humans that have been transformed, humans that have transcended their biological inheritance, humans that are ultimately not human in the end, they're post-human.

00:15:45.000 So that's the short version of what transhumanism is.

00:15:48.000 And there are a lot of different thinkers to crib a way of putting it: there are as many predictions as there are stars in the sky, right?

00:15:58.000 Like it's, you know, or to put it another way, maybe, the predictions are as confident as they are diverse.

00:16:06.000 So transhumanists are not some monolithic block, but all of them are pointing towards the merging of human beings with technology.

00:16:15.000 And they say we are well into that process.

00:16:18.000 And I think anyone who is near anyone addicted to their cell phones or reliant utterly on technology of any form can see how that kind of human-machine hybrid or human AI symbiosis has already begun.

00:16:35.000 Is the transgender movement part of this to condition us to almost want to metamorphosize or kind of strip ourselves of our created being into something beyond ourselves? 0.99

00:16:50.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, beyond the etymological root, the trans root, it is absolutely a conditioning process. 0.66

00:16:58.000 Now, how intentional that is, how happenstance that is, I won't speculate at least here.

00:17:04.000 But you have people such as Martine Rothblatt, who was a founder of SiriusXM, is transgender from male to female.

00:17:16.000 She wrote a book, or he wrote a book, or however you want to put it, called, I believe it's from Transgender to Transhuman.

00:17:26.000 It was published somewhere around 2011.

00:17:29.000 And in that book, Rothblatt argues that the initial phases will be things like transgenderism, where you are literally taking the human being and altering the fundamental makeup of the human being by way of advanced technology, biomedical technology, and that in the end, this will lead to far more dramatic transformations so that you do end up with things like brain chips or nanobots, depending on how they were to accomplish it,

00:17:59.000 linking the human mind to artificial intelligence, which from a spiritual standpoint is linking the human soul to a sort of dead artificial digital deity.

00:18:11.000 So you look at the transgender movement as it appears now, and I think that you really do get a good preview of what ultimately transhumanism is already, but will be, which is a very lofty goal, a very arrogant goal, one that has no problem whatsoever with blasphemy, and one that looks very hideous to the outside world to normal people. 1.00

00:18:37.000 Whereas inside, you know, there's this beautiful conception.

00:18:42.000 So yes, transgenderism and transhumanism are running side by side down this highway into the future.

00:18:52.000 So there's the kind of tech oligarchs, if you will, it almost as if this is a this is they they all believe this is going to happen no matter what, that the resistance is futile, to use your kind of Borg analogy.

00:19:06.000 But these predictions have a tendency not to always come true.

00:19:11.000 Maybe the merging of a machine and a human being isn't as seamless as they would think.

00:19:17.000 Can you talk a little bit about the contrarian point of view, which would be this is probably a really bad idea that is probably going to be far messier with more casualties than you could ever imagine.

00:19:30.000 And in fact, we shouldn't even be entertaining this at all.

00:19:35.000 Yeah, you know, the first introduction I had to transhumanism as a really fleshed out concept was about 20, 21 years ago with Ray Kurzweil's The Age of Spiritual Machines, in which he argued that in the very near future, you would see artificial intelligence surpass human intelligence and then eventually get to the point where it was hundreds of times, then millions of times,

00:20:02.000 then trillions of times faster with greater memory, basically infinite memory and infinite breadth as far as the data that can be collected.

00:20:12.000 And he set out a timeline in that book, you know, beginning with 2009 and then 2019 and then so on and so forth up to 2099.

00:20:23.000 So from 2022, we can look back at 2009, 2019 and see what he got right and what he got wrong.

00:20:30.000 Now, there's far more that he got right than got wrong.

00:20:35.000 And what he got right should give everyone pause as to where all of this is going, because it isn't just a series of predictions.

00:20:43.000 It's a way of shaping the future by way of those predictions.

00:20:46.000 He sets out goals for people to achieve.

00:20:49.000 So he thought that we would have ubiquitous screens by 2019.

00:20:54.000 He foresaw what we now call the metaverse, you know, with ubiquitous virtual reality and augmented reality.

00:21:00.000 He thought that genetic engineering and gene editing would be fairly normal by now.

00:21:05.000 And he thought that artificial intelligence would be a bit beyond where it is now.

00:21:10.000 So he did overreach with a lot of his predictions, but not enough of them for me to be comfortable with.

00:21:17.000 So when you get to 2099, you're talking about these sort of extravagant visions of, you know, fully conscious, godlike artificial intelligences, which he describes in these sort of terms, right, as deities that we would be basically forced to merge with because they would have so far surpassed us.

00:21:37.000 But I don't think that anything like that is necessarily going to happen, at least not in its specifics.

00:21:41.000 What I do think is happening right now is that you do have this technological elite that holds some version of these transhumanist ideas.

00:21:51.000 And they don't just simply control the development of technology through the dissemination of things like smartphones, social media, the reliance on search results, the reliance on digital technology in general in order to think and function.

00:22:06.000 What you have is you have a situation set up in which these tech elites really do control the minds and decisions of people in society.

00:22:19.000 And so I don't think it's necessarily useful to get hung up on the specifics insofar as what they get right and what they get wrong.

00:22:28.000 It's very important to note, especially in noting what they get wrong and especially noting all the unintended consequences and how ugly they are.

00:22:37.000 But I also think it's important to look at these predictions as sort of predictive programming, to use a term very popular in conspiracy circles.

00:22:45.000 It's basically a preparation for the human psyche to accept the reality of artificial intelligence making decisions for you.

00:22:54.000 The reality of designer babies, the reality of bionic implants, or even just simply wearable technologies, sort of internet of bodies to be surveilled and monitored at all times and to have your decision making controlled by the technology.

00:23:10.000 So I think it's both important to look at the prediction, but also important to look at the overall vision of where they want this to go, because that is what is being pushed by the so-called transhumanist agenda.

00:23:22.000 And they're very public about it.

00:23:24.000 I mean, you look at these advocates, there's this guy, Yaval Noi Harari.

00:23:29.000 I know you've talked about him before.

00:23:32.000 And he asked, will the future be human?

00:23:35.000 You have this other degenerate, one of the Pritzkers that is a transgender person, but also flirts around with the idea of transhumanism. 1.00

00:23:46.000 Obviously, Rothblatt, who we've talked about at quite length, at quite a great length here.

00:23:52.000 And I mean, Martine Rothblatt wrote the book, you said, from transgender to transhuman.

00:23:58.000 And look, for Christians out there, you guys better open your eyes. 1.00

00:24:02.000 If your church and your pastor is not speaking out about this, I mean, this, I think it's eschatological.

00:24:08.000 I think it's end time stuff.

00:24:09.000 But put that aside, there's something happening here that violates the very being of our humanity.

00:24:16.000 Wake up, everybody.

00:24:17.000 It's called the transhumanist movement.

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00:25:25.000 So, Joe, what can everyday people do to push back against this?

00:25:28.000 Do you feel as if the message is adequately getting out or do you think it's still on the fringes?

00:25:33.000 I think that the message of, I think that the consciousness of transhumanism as a force in our lives is fairly widespread due to science fiction or even the more kind of conspiratorial takes on it.

00:25:51.000 But I don't think that it's nearly powerful enough to push back in any meaningful way at this point.

00:25:58.000 It's pretty obvious the degree of control that the tech corporations have over our lives and politics.

00:26:06.000 And even culturally, it's very easy for me to talk about how evil or destructive transhumanism is while I wear AirPods and speak to you through an iPad, right? 1.00

00:26:18.000 So these technologies have been normalized in our lives and we have become in some sense hybridized with them.

00:26:25.000 So I don't think that the pushback is nearly strong enough.

00:26:29.000 And part of it is there's no real kind of clear or rational conception of what it is, let alone a clear or rational alternative to the state of affairs.

00:26:41.000 What has happened, on the other hand, is that you have these sort of fringe transhumanist ideas that were being put forward really for decades by intellectuals in the kind of far corners of academia or the tech sector or even the government and really especially the military.

00:26:58.000 And that has risen to the surface with things like Klaus Schwab's book, The Fourth Industrial Revolution, or the popularity of people like Yuval Noah Harari in his book, Homo Deus, and a number of other figures.

00:27:12.000 So there is actually, I think, a real deep consciousness of transhumanism among not only the kind of hardcore intellectual proponents, but also the wider society that's accepting of this.

00:27:22.000 Whereas on our side of the aisle, to the extent that I can claim you, Charlie, as a fellow traveler against all this, on our side of the aisle, it either descends into kind of nonsensical fantasies about where we're at now with nanobots and the vaccines, things like this, or it's just, you know, it's kind of something you might hear on occasion in a church with a minister who has just come across this information, but is still struggling.

00:27:48.000 That's not the totality of it.

00:27:50.000 But it is pretty rare that you find people that have really wrapped their heads around it and are willing to push back.

00:27:56.000 So very briefly, how do you push back against this?

00:27:59.000 First, learn about it, figure out where you stand in relation to it.

00:28:03.000 And I really do think that the spiritual conception of this is the most important, at least for me.

00:28:08.000 And for many others, I know.

00:28:10.000 What you're talking about with transhumanism is an orientation towards technology as savior.

00:28:16.000 And I think that a spiritual orientation to a transcendent, supernatural sort of realm of existence is far more natural to the human being and the human state of affairs.

00:28:26.000 And I think ultimately that's the real grounding in reality.

00:28:30.000 But there's also naturalistic arguments against this too, right?

00:28:33.000 People who believe that there is no God, that evolution created us, but that arrogantly tinkering with that process is extremely destructive.

00:28:40.000 But yes, I think that's ultimately the very first step.

00:28:43.000 After that, it will have to definitely move outward to social norms and cultural barriers.

00:28:48.000 And then after that, I think it will have to be enshrined in law.

00:28:51.000 But that's probably way farther off than I would like to think.

00:28:54.000 Yeah, and I mean, I'm going to just be a skeptic in one sense.

00:28:57.000 I just, I don't think it's going to be as easy as they say it is to merge man and machine.

00:29:02.000 I just, I don't.

00:29:03.000 I'm not saying they can't get it done.

00:29:05.000 I think that some form of singularity outside of the merge of man and machine, I think that's much more realistic.

00:29:11.000 It seems as if that's trending to have some sort of a computer that knows it's a computer or whatever, to use an example.

00:29:17.000 But to actually get a piece of artificial and synthetic technology to merge seamlessly into the infinitely complex, created, I believe created, not evolved being, good luck.

00:29:31.000 I mean, these prognosticators, they're wrong about a lot of things, right?

00:29:37.000 MRNA vaccine technology, all this stuff.

00:29:39.000 And if all of a sudden you're supposed to be like, yeah, I'm going to drill a hole in your head, Elon Musk, of which I think he's right on some stuff, but he's so wrong on, and he's dangerous on this stuff, very dangerous.

00:29:48.000 And I'm going to drill a hole in your head and it's all going to be fine.

00:29:52.000 Yeah, you guys can't get energy to Western Europe right now. 0.95

00:29:56.000 Okay.

00:29:56.000 You're limiting shower times in Germany.

00:29:59.000 Maybe you should lay off the drilling holes and heads thing.

00:30:02.000 Joe, I believe you're coming to our great reset event, if I'm not mistaken, which we're very excited about.

00:30:07.000 And we want you to bring the house down and really educate everybody about what's going on here.

00:30:11.000 It's very, very important.

00:30:13.000 And I hope the entire conservative movement really studies this transhumanist thing deeply.

00:30:18.000 And I think my bet's on the humans.

00:30:21.000 Let the transhumanists try their best.

00:30:23.000 Thank you, Joe.

00:30:24.000 Thank you very much, Charlie.

00:30:26.000 What could be more conservative than conserving the human species?

00:30:29.000 That's the most conservative thing we could do.

00:30:31.000 Too many people on the right, though, they say, oh, it's going to be fine.

00:30:33.000 You'll be able to pay for credit cards by waving your wrist. 0.98

00:30:35.000 Like, yeah, actually, that sounds really dumb.

00:30:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:30:39.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:42.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:30:43.000 God bless.

00:30:46.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - September 15, 2022

Transgenderism to Transhumanism with "Detransitioner" Ritchie Herron and Tech Writer Joe Allen

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