Patrick Bet-David joins the show about President Trump, the future of the Democrats, and more. Super smart analysis from my friend, PBD, on the Trump administration, the Democratic Party, and much more. Recorded in Los Angeles, CA!
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00:01:43.000We're going to dive right into it with a legend and a great friend, someone who is one of the most important voices on the planet, and that is Patrick Bett David, my friend PBD.
00:02:24.000It's an amazing journey that we've been on, and just to see how the Lord has blessed us and to see the impact that we've been able to make.
00:02:32.000PBD, I want to get your take, because you have a way of analyzing things and synthesizing them so crisply.
00:02:38.000What do you make of President Trump's first couple of months, the state of the country, the state of the Republican Party, and Trump 2.0?
00:04:03.000I call you the combination of you're a once-in-a-generation type of a guy.
00:04:09.000I said on a show the other day that I think you're what – And I say this behind your back all the time to everybody because I really believe in that with you.
00:04:22.000So when you do that, you put a lot of pressure on yourself.
00:04:26.000Now, this isn't like he said that and he's taking three months off and he's just kind of celebrating, going on talk shows, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, all these other shows.
00:04:52.000It's a very rare reason why fentanyl cases have dropped and all this safety, security, confidence, you know, kids, school, colleges getting their act together, DEI being gone by companies that you thought would never get rid of it, like ESG.
00:05:09.000you know, BlackRock dropping some of their ESG commitments that they had.
00:05:13.000BlackRock, BlackRock was seen as the company that would go do a bunch of But there's still a lot of issues that we've got to address, Charlie, that is not there yet.
00:05:32.000And he's having to negotiate a lot of deals.
00:05:35.000When you're running a business and you're negotiating five real estate deals, That's a lot.
00:05:40.000And, you know, he probably was able to handle it.
00:05:42.000But he's negotiating 150, 200 deals right now.
00:06:09.000I think you make a super smart point that I've not heard anyone articulate the way that you just said it, which is that President Trump could have kind of created his own slow motion honeymoon period.
00:06:20.000He could have just kind of taken it easy, enjoyed it.
00:06:25.000And honestly, that is the caricature the left always likes to paint of Donald Trump.
00:06:28.000That he's lazy and he doesn't work very hard and he's going to be on his second term.
00:06:34.000He's just going to kind of golf all the time.
00:06:49.000And I want to ask you, PBD, I think you're uniquely positioned to comment on this.
00:06:53.000Because you are very, very supportive of Elon Musk, of what he did of purchasing Twitter, and all he did to help save Western civilization.
00:07:01.000What do you make of the dynamic currently between President Trump and Elon Musk?
00:07:05.000I was concerned of that in last October when I said, you're going to see them calling Elon President Musk and they're going to call him the puppet master and all this stuff with Time magazine.
00:07:15.000And then, you know, two months later, that's exactly what happened.
00:07:18.000But you have to also realize that, you know, one of the.
00:07:29.000So imagine if you, let's think devil's advocate here.
00:07:33.000If you wanted to find a way to pin Musk and Trump against each other, what would you do?
00:07:37.000You'd get a bunch of people to get in Musk's ear to say, look, I don't know if he appreciates you enough.
00:07:44.000You know, if laws were different, you would really be able to get the entire job done because you could have been the president.
00:07:51.000They should change the laws because you should be the president.
00:07:59.000Now, depending on where Musk's at, Musk's so well battle-tested, more than probably two people above him that are battle-tested, maybe one person that's been battle-tested more than him, and that's the president, where he knows those games.
00:08:13.000He knows manipulation and gamification.
00:08:16.000But, you know, Musk thinks very highly of himself as well.
00:08:20.000I do think he played a very important role in his commitment to what he did in Pennsylvania and willing to put the money behind it and getting to work and knowing the fact that it was going to affect his companies that he owns a bunch of equity in and his network was going to take a hit.
00:08:32.000And, you know, Tesla, what happened to his cars and all this stuff.
00:08:38.000He may go down in the history books as the entrepreneur, the wealthiest man ever that took the biggest risk.
00:08:45.000If you go back and look at Billy Graham, when he first became a very public supporter of Richard Nixon, he talks about it in many of his books, that it was a challenging thing, and he became a little bit more hesitant about getting behind presidents because of what happened between him and Nixon.
00:08:59.000That's very well documented, where people can read about.
00:09:04.000I love the fact that the president is staying America first.
00:09:07.000I love the fact that, you know, Elon is actually going to be out as an advisor and kind of give feedback because we need that little bit of the friction and the noise.
00:09:18.000I love the fact that he's saying the big, beautiful bill.
00:09:21.000It can't be big and beautiful because we need a little bit of contradiction and a little bit of debate for people to kind of see what is Speaker Johnson saying, what are these folks saying, you know.
00:11:25.000PBD, what is your take on what you just heard from President Trump and that kind of back and forth with Elon saying he's very disappointed?
00:11:34.000I'm not surprised that I'm seeing that, and I think that's going to continue.
00:11:38.000I think that's going to continue for the next three, three and a half years.
00:11:41.000Look, here's—think about it from the lens of Elon.
00:11:44.000Think about it from the lens of President Trump.
00:11:47.000One is running businesses, and in his eyes, sacrificed every one of his businesses to help the president win.
00:11:55.000In his eyes, I'm convinced he believes that the president doesn't win without Elon.
00:12:00.000And I think a lot of people probably would agree with that.
00:12:02.000This is— Looking at it from the lens of Elon Musk, thinks very highly of himself.
00:12:07.000He knows he's the modern-day Iron Man.
00:12:09.000You know, the guy who runs multi, multi, multi-billion-dollar companies.
00:12:13.000It's already hard enough to run a million-dollar company, a billion-dollar company, and I imagine you're running five, six multi-billion-dollar companies.
00:13:48.000And if today we're sitting here having this conversation, Charlie, if Kamala would have become president.
00:13:55.000If Biden is president today, he would have stepped down, Kamala would have been a president, but either way, Kamala would have ended up being a president.
00:14:01.000If that's the case today, DEI continues, ESG continues, climate change continues, border stays open, crime is up.
00:14:13.000It is a very, very scary place for America.
00:14:32.000I said, listen, in every family there's got to be a one number one, and you can never undermine the one number one.
00:14:38.000You can have disagreements, but there's got to be one number one.
00:14:41.000In this case, President Trump is the alpha amongst alphas, and that needs to be clear to everybody.
00:14:49.000There is not a bigger alpha than Trump.
00:14:51.000And as long as we know that in this setting, and that includes Elon Musk, that he knows that, we can have disagreements on issues, but if that goes away and we become competitive and all this other stuff, we forget the sacrifices that President Trump made, I think we're going to have a lot of problems in the next three and a half years.
00:15:10.000So let's talk about the state of the Democrat Party.
00:15:12.000You have a way of seeing things before they happen, PBD and Trump.
00:15:18.000Your show is not necessarily just a political show.
00:15:20.000You have a lot of different voices and a lot of different perspectives.
00:15:24.000Where is the Democrat Party going from here?
00:15:26.000Are we going to see an adjustment from them on the trans issue, on the border?
00:15:31.000They're trying to reach out to young men.
00:15:32.000What is the state of the Democrat Party?
00:15:37.000Whenever you watch somebody, a person can be a better smack talker.
00:15:41.000A person can be louder, better at marketing, whatever it may be.
00:15:45.000But if you don't know what your values and principles are, your core values and principles, you're not really going to get people that are deep-rooted in who you are as an individual.
00:15:56.000So I used to make content about business for many years.
00:16:04.000Until I started really talking about important issues, politics, family, marriage, Iran, taxes.
00:16:09.000Then they're like, hey, I'm now committed into...
00:16:15.000The Democratic Party right now, they don't know what they stand for.
00:16:18.000They spent $20 million on this taco campaign and trying to talk about, you know, President Trump to get under his skin.
00:16:25.000You think you're going to get under that guy's skin?
00:16:27.000You think that guy, you're going to be able to agitate him like Eric Swalwell and, you know, eating the taco and going on Charlemagne, the guy thinking like he's going to go agitate him.
00:16:37.000What I want to know is your values and principles.
00:16:38.000Yesterday we had Stephen A. Smith on the podcast and he wants to run for president.
00:17:02.000Number three, the four things he said, and he says number five, I don't know what number five was, but number five would be more left-leaning policies.
00:17:34.000When you go out there and you're on stage.
00:17:37.000You say shutting the border, they're going to shut you down because they don't want to close the border.
00:17:41.000When you get on stage and you talk about economy and you don't have a bunch of entitlement programs that you want to pay free money out to people, they're not going to vote for you.
00:17:48.000If you get up on stage and say, hey, You get up on stage and we've got to get rid of Vulcan families and schools.
00:17:59.000You're not going to get their support.
00:21:43.000Joshua does amazing work for the Epoch Times.
00:21:46.000Joshua, thank you for taking the time here.
00:21:48.000I know there's a lot you want to talk about in particular about the Chinese Communist Party and officials and their relationship with Harvard and the infiltration of our country.
00:21:59.000Please explain to our audience some of the work that you're doing and we'll go from there.
00:22:02.000Yeah, well, Charlie, awesome seeing you and thanks for having me on.
00:22:07.000So on the point, I think a lot of people saw this story that Trump was talking about, you know, banning most of the student visas for Chinese students.
00:22:15.000And I mean, I know what a lot of people might be thinking.
00:22:22.000I can tell you, I have a lot of Chinese colleagues and friends who came here as students.
00:22:26.000People very much against the CCP, but across the board, they'll tell you something.
00:22:30.000If you come here as a student, the Chinese Communist Party, they will send somebody to meet with you before you go, and they will tell you to remember the motherland.
00:22:41.000The Chinese Communist Party regards students as spies.
00:22:44.000I did a recent big expose on one of the big networks as part of this, and I guess if there's anybody wondering, if you want to really root out the real heart of Chinese espionage at American universities, The real heart is an organization called the Chinese Student and Scholar Associations, the CSSAs.
00:23:03.000Right alongside the Confucius Institutes and the Little Red Schools, the CSSAs are openly funded by the Chinese Communist Party, openly operated by the Chinese Communist Party, and openly active at most American universities.
00:23:36.000It includes even just people within the Chinese community who are part of what you call the Tong system, the Chinese Communist Party system to subvert the United States.
00:23:45.000And I'll lay out a couple of things they do.
00:23:49.000On one side of it, these are the eyes and ears of the Chinese Communist Party at American universities.
00:23:55.000And so if you're a normal Chinese student, this is the group that will harass you.
00:24:02.000This is the group that will monitor you.
00:24:04.000This is the group where if you are a normal Chinese student and you just happen to believe in democracy, This is the group that will provide your name and your identity to the Chinese agents, so you will be punished.
00:24:20.000If you join a human rights event, maybe against, you know, slave labor in China or against organ harvesting of religious believers, this is the Chinese student group that will report you to the authorities.
00:24:32.000And I should note also, I know, Charlie, you do a lot of work going to American universities.
00:24:37.000You've probably dealt with some Chinese protester students.
00:24:40.000A lot of those protesters are from this group.
00:24:43.000And the big thing is they're organized by the Chinese consulates openly.
00:24:48.000In fact, if you saw my recent episode on Crossroads, I did a big expose.
00:24:52.000They even have on their own websites, they will state they're funded by them.
00:24:57.000They will state that they're operated by them.
00:24:59.000And they will state they're tied into the entire network of subversion.
00:25:03.000But I would add one more thing to this.
00:25:05.000For American national security, when we talk about Chinese researchers and stuff at our universities, you know, oftentimes we think about brain drain.
00:25:14.000We think about, okay, taxpayer money is being used to finance weapons development or medical research at universities.
00:25:22.000That's one of the big arguments with Harvard right now, for example.
00:25:25.000What is not often talked about is, aside from them coming here researching things and then taking our state-funded research and bringing it back to China, The biggest threat that these things represent, these student organizations, is that if they are connected to the CCP, which they are, again, even openly on their own websites.
00:25:44.000In fact, the CSSAs are openly operated through the Chinese Embassy, their educational programs at the Chinese Embassy.
00:25:55.000So, for example, you have a Chinese student, maybe they're studying law.
00:25:59.000They might go in the future and work maybe in the Justice Department.
00:26:04.000If you have a Chinese student who's studying maybe national security and they're an American, maybe they become an American citizen or marry an American citizen, they can later on get a job in the FBI.
00:26:15.000They can get a job in the intelligence community.
00:26:20.000And even if you're not an American citizen in the United States, there is a pathway to citizenship if you join the military.
00:26:26.000And I know from people who work in some of the organizations that review these individuals, they're having massive lines of Chinese nationals trying to enlist in the US military.
00:26:36.000This means this is a way for them to implant spies within our system.
00:26:40.000It doesn't matter if it's government or top-level business or finance or anything else.
00:26:45.000This is a way for them to get into our institutions and then use our institutions against us and in their favor.
00:26:51.000So, I mean, let me just ask a question here.
00:26:54.000They're treating us as if we're an enemy.
00:26:58.000Is that how China would the Chinese Communist Party would internally describe their relationship with America?
00:27:05.000Because externally, they're all like, oh, you know, we're not interventionist.
00:27:10.000I mean, they're just so they're pathological liars.
00:27:12.000How does China internally view their relationship with the United States of America?
00:27:19.000The exact slogan, word for word, from the Chinese Communist Party that has been in place from the very beginning up until now with Xi Jinping is, we live, you die.
00:27:33.000They believe the Chinese Communist Party cannot coexist on the same planet as the United States.
00:27:39.000They view the United States as the largest thing standing in front of the CCP, in front of their goal of trying to effectively take over the world.
00:27:51.000In their eyes, there's two competing global systems.
00:27:54.000There's the Pax Americana and American values.
00:27:58.000The idea of, you know, what is liberal democracy, meaning human rights, the idea that people are endowed by God as having God-given rights, and that people, That's the American idea.
00:28:14.000Free market capitalism, meaning it's not controlled by a governing party, of course.
00:28:20.000The Chinese Communist Party's ideology is communism, as we all know.
00:28:25.000And of course, while some people argue that they are engaged in the capitalistic system, the system they use is what's called state capitalism.
00:28:38.000In fact, going back even to the Russian Bolshevik Revolution, one of the first articles written by Vladimir Lenin was called, How Can We Advance to Communism If We Fear the Stage of Socialism?
00:28:49.000And he described socialism as the state capitalist monopoly, meaning the state seizes control of the businesses.
00:29:05.000Any medium to large-sized business in China is deeply controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, and if you refuse, you're going to get thrown in the gulag.
00:29:15.000They regard America as an existential threat, the greatest enemy of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:29:21.000That has been in place going back to Mao Zedong.
00:29:23.000It did not change even under Deng Xiaoping when they did the reforms and opening up.
00:29:28.000When Deng Xiaoping was questioned on this by his advisors, his exact words were something along the lines of, Orange cat, black cat, what does it matter as long as it can catch mice?
00:29:39.000Meaning, open market, closed market, what does it matter as long as the goal is to undermine and destroy the United States?
00:29:47.000And Xi Jinping has just revived all of this, in fact, even throwing off some of the facade that was maintained of the quote-unquote peaceful rise of China.
00:29:55.000They regard us as an enemy, and in their eyes, all of this is war.
00:30:00.000war by other means to undermine the United States.
00:30:05.000How then should the United States retaliate?
00:30:08.000Because I don't think anyone wants a kinetic war with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:30:12.000But if we are on a war footing, how should the United States then respond?
00:30:18.000Well, I think we need to recognize that war is not always kinetic.
00:30:23.000In fact, in the eyes and the public statements of the Chinese Communist Party, they are at war with us.
00:31:02.000In case in point, the Chinese military is engaged in that.
00:31:06.000The hackers are Chinese military hackers.
00:31:09.000There's economic warfare, which is fighting over GDP.
00:31:12.000When they do hostile takeovers of entire industries in other countries, for example, buying up the dairy industry in New Zealand, buying up the iron and minerals industries in Australia, doing debt traps through the Belt and Road Initiative, they call that economic warfare.
00:31:30.000The monopolizing of natural resources.
00:31:45.000An operation actually started under Mao Zedong using the spy networks through Cuba to establish cocaine smuggling, which has now evolved into them providing precursor chemicals for methamphetamine.
00:31:59.000In their open writings, this is warfare.
00:32:02.000And they are killing more Americans every single year than we lost in the entire Vietnam War.
00:32:07.000They're killing more people than we lose in a kinetic warfare using drug warfare.
00:32:12.000If I were to go over the whole list, they list publicly over 70 strategies of unconventional warfare.
00:32:19.000Even ideology, they have adopted into their actual military code what's called the three warfares.
00:32:25.000Psychological warfare, media warfare, and legal warfare.
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00:33:45.000So as you know, last on Monday, we did a very powerful segment with Alex Berenson all about the COVID vaccine and whether or not it was delayed to hurt President Trump before the 2020 election.
00:34:07.000I looked into this, though, and it's even worse than what we covered.
00:34:10.000It was Trump's own FDA that made it impossible to announce, to say that there was a vaccine before the election.
00:34:19.000In fact, and this is why it's so important that Marty McCary is running the FDA and we have Bobby Kennedy, if you go a level deeper, The facts actually show that it's our own government that was working against President Trump to be able to announce the vaccine According, and this is what I sourced here, and I talked to people at the FDA and all that, according to the media reports at the time, quote, against the will of the president, the FDA announced in October that no vaccine candidate could seek authorization without full two months of data from at least two volunteers.
00:34:48.000This move effectively dispelled any chance of a vaccine by Election Day.
00:34:53.000In fact, President Trump called that at a time a hit job from the deep state.
00:34:57.000It's why it's so important that we have Bobby Kennedy and Marty McCary.
00:35:00.000No more liberals from the deep state trying to undermine the president on a daily basis.
00:35:04.000Very important topic here about the Chinese Communist Party.
00:35:07.000I classify the Chinese Communist Party as an enemy of the United States.
00:35:10.000How we respond to that is very complicated.
00:35:13.000Joshua Phillip, host of Crossroads at the Epoch Times and senior investigative reporter at the Epoch Times.
00:35:18.000So do you think that Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party is going to make an imminent move on Taiwan?
00:36:01.000Either Xi Jinping does not have the control or power to launch a war right now, or it means he might do it drastically with the intent of maybe keeping his military busy as a way to consolidate power and try to win back control of the military.
00:36:15.000It is possible he might start a war to kill off the individuals he does not want in the military.
00:36:21.000And so in terms of national interest, in terms of internal infighting within the CCP itself, What would that mean for us as the United States?
00:36:31.000Well, Japan would very quickly move to defend Taiwan.
00:36:36.000And because we have a defense agreement with Japan, and Japan has defense agreements with the Philippines and Australia and India, this would very quickly escalate into a much larger war.
00:36:47.000What would a CCP war look like against Taiwan?
00:36:51.000So the northern, basically the northern strait, the entire strait there, and including even to the west, the whole strait is like shallow water.
00:37:17.000Imagine Saving Private Ryan times a thousand, where machine gun nests are replaced with rockets, and they're bombing boats far out into the sea.
00:37:26.000The United States is putting in place what it calls the Hellscape Strategy, which is various drones.
00:37:32.000It's aerial drones, surface of the water drones, like boats, and undersea drones.
00:37:37.000And we would also be bombarding the Chinese invasion.
00:37:40.000I don't know what Japan would do, but they'd very likely be involved in that as well.
00:37:44.000But what the CCP might try to do in the short term is effectively isolate Taiwan, surround it with their ships, launch kind of a castle siege, very likely try to sever their internet cables, cut them off, starve them out, and then from there slowly move to an actual invasion.