The Charlie Kirk Show - February 03, 2021


Trump Campaign Post-Op—Creating an After-Election Action Plan


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A new report from President Trump's own pollsters sheds new light on the 2020 election. And it's a report that could have a lot to say about how to prepare for a 2020 election that's going to be a doozy.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:01.000 A new report came out from President Trump's pollsters.
00:00:05.000 That's very interesting.
00:00:06.000 It really did a diagnostic look at the 2020 race.
00:00:11.000 And I know that, like you, I'm skeptical of all exit polls, but I think there's a lot of information here that could be very useful.
00:00:17.000 I dive into that and what it means for our country, politics, and the future of the Republican Party.
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00:00:58.000 Very important episode.
00:00:59.000 Lots of data.
00:01:00.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:01:02.000 Here we go.
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00:01:36.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:38.000 Okay, so I was going through politico.com last evening, and I really tend not to like exit polling and autopsy reports.
00:01:51.000 Back after Mitt Romney lost a very winnable election to Barack Obama in 2012, the RNC came out with a very expensive autopsy report. 0.97
00:02:00.000 It was thorough and it was just full of garbage. 0.91
00:02:03.000 Quite honestly, it basically concluded that Mitt Romney would have beat Barack Obama if he would have just been more like Barack Obama. 0.99
00:02:10.000 Basically, that was the autopsy.
00:02:12.000 President Trump, when he ran in 2015, ignored all of that, and he had a lot more wisdom than following that autopsy report.
00:02:19.000 However, my attention on this story, I think, is warranted.
00:02:24.000 So this particular set of exit polls and data was done by President Trump's own pollster.
00:02:32.000 So this is not done by some left-wing firm or some sort of media agency.
00:02:38.000 This is done by Fabrizio Lee.
00:02:41.000 Okay.
00:02:42.000 And I think this is also in conjunction with McLaughlin, who does all the president's polling.
00:02:48.000 And so before I get into this, this talks about the 2020 election.
00:02:54.000 This does not factor in any of the shenanigans or the nonsense that we've been covering on this program.
00:03:01.000 It doesn't factor in the signature verification issues, voter registration issues, all of that.
00:03:07.000 And so I'm not going to talk about that, but a really good point that one of our team members made is: if you do not have your fundamentals down, if you are not exceeding in certain categories, then it opens the door on the margins for this other stuff to happen.
00:03:22.000 So I just want to say from the outset, I'm not invalidating that conversation.
00:03:26.000 I'm not dismissing those concerns, but there's a lot here in this report by the president's own pollster, President Trump's own pollster, that I think is very instructive that we can learn from.
00:03:38.000 So first, let's just talk about the size of this.
00:03:41.000 This was an exit poll that was done, but with 35,000 participants in the key battleground states.
00:03:47.000 That's pretty extraordinary.
00:03:49.000 And it was done not just the day after the election, but in the days to follow.
00:03:53.000 They were not in a rush.
00:03:54.000 They really wanted to find the data and correlate it.
00:03:58.000 And to be honest, some of the findings correlate with some of the results that we saw in the election, plus or minus with some of the other things on the margins that probably tipped what would have been a close race into Biden's category.
00:04:15.000 What I found to be most interesting, though, is that if you just go county by county, especially in states like Florida and Texas, this exit polling data is probably correct.
00:04:28.000 Let me give you an example.
00:04:29.000 By Fabrizio Lee, they did this poll in these states.
00:04:38.000 And so, for example, Trump did better in the Rio Grande Valley with Hispanic voters and better in Miami-Dade County with Cuban voters than any other Republican in the last 20 or 30 years.
00:04:50.000 He did better with Hispanics.
00:04:52.000 We knew that just based on raw vote totals, not exit polling.
00:04:56.000 That was something that we celebrated and should be celebrated.
00:05:00.000 Maria Elvira Salazar became a congresswoman, large in part because of the success from the Hispanic community.
00:05:07.000 So on this exit poll, it shows that Donald Trump did 10 points better with Hispanics in 2020 than he did in 2016.
00:05:17.000 That's consistent.
00:05:19.000 So just take that one number.
00:05:21.000 That is consistent from exit polling to actual data.
00:05:24.000 So that goes to show that maybe they're onto something here.
00:05:27.000 The most instructive number, though, and I believe this because our team was warning about this and we were told that, I don't know if there's any data behind that. 0.73
00:05:37.000 And the results showed it, is that there was a double-digit erosion with white men.
00:05:45.000 According to this exit poll, and there's a margin here, Donald Trump did 12 points worse with white men in 2020 than he did in 2016. 0.98
00:05:56.000 That might be half right, but it's generally correct. 0.96
00:06:00.000 I can say this from anecdotal and data inference.
00:06:03.000 And in some states, like in Florida, let's take Pinellas County, for example, which is typically, it's a Republican-ish county.
00:06:12.000 Joe Biden won that county in Florida.
00:06:15.000 And Florida's a state that we all trust the results from.
00:06:17.000 So what's the number one takeaway from this exit poll when it comes to this particular page that I'm focusing on?
00:06:24.000 Let's talk about the positives.
00:06:26.000 The positives is that Donald Trump has changed the Republican Party to embrace Hispanic voters in a way that the pro-Amnesty open border Chamber of Commerce group never could have imagined.
00:06:39.000 Donald Trump did 10 points better with Hispanic voters.
00:06:42.000 It's extraordinary.
00:06:44.000 That's reason to take a pause and say, wait a second, Donald Trump, who argued for restricting immigration, for building a border wall, did better with the community that we're told that we have to go offer amnesty and then they'll go vote for you.
00:06:58.000 That is a glaring takeaway.
00:07:02.000 However, according to this data, the Hispanic improvement was not enough to cancel out losses among white voters. 0.51
00:07:14.000 If Donald Trump would have just done a little bit better with white voters, maybe the nonsense would not have been enough in some of these states.
00:07:22.000 We would never know. 0.58
00:07:24.000 But that's the first takeaway that I think is very, very interesting.
00:07:27.000 The second takeaway is when you go by age and education.
00:07:32.000 According to this exit poll and according to this data by Trump's own pollster, Donald Trump did six points worse with people that were white and did not have a college educated degree.
00:07:50.000 He did one point better with people between the ages of 30 to 44.
00:07:55.000 I think the riots and the unrest probably had something to do with that and also the nonsense happening in education.
00:08:02.000 But Donald Trump's most significant vote erosion was with senior voters.
00:08:10.000 According to this data, take it for whatever it's worth, it shows that Trump did eight points better, eight points worse, I'm sorry, with seniors.
00:08:20.000 That is consistent with some of the other polling that we've seen, that the number one issue for all voters, the number one issue was the Chinese coronavirus.
00:08:32.000 Wasn't even close.
00:08:35.000 Shows right here.
00:08:38.000 Coronavirus, 42% of voters in states that Donald Trump did not win or Joe Biden was certified as the winner for said that the coronavirus was the number one priority.
00:08:52.000 Now, there's actually a lot of good news in this, in the polling here.
00:08:57.000 It actually goes to show how insignificant the AOC agenda is to regular voters in these states, how unpopular it is.
00:09:07.000 It says here that climate change was the most important issue for only 3% of voters.
00:09:16.000 3%.
00:09:18.000 That racism was the most important issue for 7% of voters.
00:09:27.000 Donald Trump wanted to run an election on the economy.
00:09:32.000 The Chinese coronavirus prevented that.
00:09:37.000 And so there is some correlation.
00:09:38.000 Which voters do you think cared most about the Chinese coronavirus?
00:09:44.000 Of course, it's the voters that, according to this own data, defected from Donald Trump.
00:09:52.000 White college-educated voters that were 65 and older were Trump did eight points worse with.
00:10:02.000 Interestingly enough, in the states that Trump held, he actually did worse with white college-educated voters than he did in the states he flipped.
00:10:13.000 But in the states he held, he was able to make up for it based on this data, or at least within the margin of error, with Hispanic voters.
00:10:22.000 There's a lot to unpack here because I think there's so much to learn from the MAGA movement and the direction that the Republican Party needs to go and how it applies to current legislative fights right now.
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00:12:06.000 So we're going through President Trump's own pollster on exit polling data.
00:12:10.000 And take it for whatever it's worth.
00:12:12.000 I know that a lot of people are very dismissive of exit polls, but I think that it's kind of instructive.
00:12:17.000 And I haven't found anything that is wildly inconsistent with data that we trust.
00:12:22.000 Data from Florida, data from Texas, data from Ohio.
00:12:25.000 We're just taking those couple states and then saying, what can we learn?
00:12:28.000 What do we do right?
00:12:30.000 What did we do wrong with how we were actually messaging our ideas and communicating them?
00:12:35.000 And so I want to get to one of the, and this is super interesting.
00:12:40.000 So according to the exit polling data, and this would lend itself to an argument of the kind of say we need to look more into the shenanigans and the nonsense and the tomfoolery of who won the voters that did not vote in 2016.
00:13:02.000 According to the according to President Trump's pollster, it shows that Joe Biden won them by 14 points in the states he flipped, where he only won them by eight points in the states he held.
00:13:15.000 And so take that for whatever it's worth, but there was a group of people that came out to vote simply and solely to oppose Donald Trump.
00:13:26.000 However, there were mail-in ballots being sent all over the place.
00:13:30.000 Voter turnout was sent to proportions we've never seen before.
00:13:37.000 Therefore, it quickly became a first-time voter Trump referendum, which is exactly what the Democrats wanted to do.
00:13:47.000 Another very interesting piece of data was the impact of late deciders.
00:13:51.000 We have said on this program that President Trump did not have his best debate performance on the first debate.
00:13:56.000 The second one, I think he won hands down.
00:13:59.000 However, in the new era of vote by mail and mail-in voting, there were over 50 million people that had voted before the second debate.
00:14:08.000 And a lot of people looked at the first debate and were trying to give Trump a chance.
00:14:13.000 Well, it shows here that in the last month, in the states that Joe Biden flipped, according to President Trump's pollster, it shows that Joe Biden won late deciders by five points in the states that Donald Trump won by three points.
00:14:31.000 And it says that President Trump needed late deciders to break in his direction in the states that were flipped, but that did not materialize.
00:14:38.000 So you add some of this up, all of a sudden, when you don't have strong signature verification, you don't have voter registration check records, all of a sudden, what otherwise would have been a six or seven point race became a 10 or 12,000 point race, and all of that stuff comes into one.
00:14:55.000 Where if you're not blowing the opposition out by five, six, seven hundred thousand votes, and you're within these margins, and you don't do good enough on focusing on some of these issues and all that.
00:15:07.000 And that's to say it's not President Trump's fault.
00:15:10.000 I think that there were some people around him that were giving bad advice.
00:15:13.000 I also think that according to this data, if I can find it here, there's 20 pages here by Fabrizio Lee.
00:15:20.000 It shows that the entire election should have been run on a referendum of Kamala Harris.
00:15:26.000 Now, I will say, our podcast was one of the few podcasts that was publicly urging and insisting on running an entire election against Kamala Harris.
00:15:36.000 The data shows that if it would have been a referendum on Kamala and not on Joe Biden, this election very well might have been different.
00:15:45.000 Again, this is a 35,000-person sample, according from Fabrizio Lee.
00:15:52.000 It shows that Kamala Harris had a net unfavorable rating in every single state that Joe Biden won that was a battleground state.
00:16:02.000 Let me repeat that.
00:16:03.000 That Kamala Harris was 10 points unpopular versus Donald Trump.
00:16:10.000 Out of the four people running for office, Joe Biden, Mike Pence, Donald Trump, and Kamala Harris, the most unpopular person was Kamala Harris.
00:16:19.000 I didn't see one advertisement directed towards Kamala Harris.
00:16:24.000 I didn't see one rally that was all about the incoming Harris administration.
00:16:28.000 This was something we warned about.
00:16:30.000 This is something that we talked about because we actually talk to real voters and real people.
00:16:33.000 We don't just sit behind a computer screen all day.
00:16:37.000 And that goes to show that in some of these states, people went into the ballot box and voted for Kamala Harris while not liking Kamala Harris.
00:16:46.000 That is a failure of a communication strategy and a campaign that did not frame it properly.
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00:18:27.000 We have a couple of people emailing us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:18:31.000 They say, Charlie, why are you talking about exit polls?
00:18:32.000 None of the stuff is right.
00:18:34.000 Okay, this is President Trump's own pollster.
00:18:37.000 This is his firm that he paid for and that they released.
00:18:42.000 They didn't embargo it.
00:18:44.000 They released it publicly.
00:18:44.000 They didn't burn it.
00:18:46.000 That's number one.
00:18:48.000 Number two, that there is not one piece of data that I've seen here that is inconsistent with results of states that we trust.
00:18:58.000 So let's just take Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin out of the equation.
00:19:04.000 Does anyone here want to be as bold to say that you think the Florida election results were compromised?
00:19:09.000 No, you wouldn't say that, would you?
00:19:10.000 Of course not.
00:19:11.000 You'd say, oh, no, I believe Florida.
00:19:12.000 Well, if you believe Florida, then you believe this, because I've been talking about Florida data here.
00:19:16.000 A lot of this is about data of states that Trump won and he still did worse with certain groups.
00:19:21.000 And yes, some of this data is really sobering.
00:19:24.000 Some of this data is not might not what you want to hear.
00:19:28.000 And I'm not delegitimizing the conversations that we on this program have had about voter integrity for the last four months.
00:19:36.000 However, if we act as if we were perfect in our persuasion with every single group, with every single part of the population, we're fooling ourselves.
00:19:45.000 There's always room for improvement.
00:19:46.000 There's also room for celebration, such as we did phenomenally well with Hispanic voters, really well.
00:19:54.000 Why?
00:19:56.000 Well, right now, Dick Durbin and Lindsey Graham are entertaining an amnesty bill.
00:20:01.000 That's right.
00:20:01.000 Senator Lindsey Graham, who calls himself a Republican from South Carolina.
00:20:08.000 I praise Lindsey when he does good things, and I don't praise him when he does bad things.
00:20:14.000 This amnesty stuff, I am just, I'm going to make a prediction.
00:20:18.000 Lindsey Graham will come out with Chris Murphy, and they will want to invade Burma by the end of the week.
00:20:26.000 I'm half kidding. 0.71
00:20:27.000 But Senator Lindsey Graham is very hawkish.
00:20:30.000 He always wants to use a military force to try to effectuate neoconservative nationbuilding.
00:20:38.000 Anyway, one of the big takeaways, though, is President Trump had the strictest immigration policies of a president, of any person running for office, probably since, boy, geez, probably since Eisenhower, right?
00:20:57.000 Even Reagan didn't run on strict immigration.
00:20:59.000 Reagan granted amnesty in 86.
00:21:01.000 Then he signed it into law, mass amnesty.
00:21:04.000 And Reagan even called it the worst mistake he made of his presidency.
00:21:08.000 So President Trump had the strictest immigration policies of any president, not just candidate, of restricting entry into the United States to protect the American worker, uphold legal entry into the United States, if and when it benefits our fellow countrymen, the most so since probably Eisenhower or even before that.
00:21:32.000 We'll have to probably go backwards and try to go back in time and see who had the strictest immigration policies.
00:21:38.000 Definitely not JFK.
00:21:39.000 Actually, JFK, no, that's not right. 1.00
00:21:41.000 JFK was very much open borders, nation of immigrants, all that nonsense. 0.73
00:21:45.000 LBJ was definitely open borders.
00:21:49.000 Richard Nixon, I don't know very much about Richard Nixon's immigration policy.
00:21:54.000 Jared Ford, no, Jimmy Carter was definitely open borders.
00:21:57.000 Reagan granted amnesty.
00:21:59.000 H.W. Bush was Mr. Amnesty.
00:22:01.000 In fact, the massive increase in visa distribution was pioneered by H.W. Bush.
00:22:08.000 Clinton was very much pro-amnesty.
00:22:13.000 W. Bush was pro-amnesty.
00:22:14.000 Obama was pro-amnesty.
00:22:16.000 And then you have Trump, who actually says, we got some serious problems with our immigration policy.
00:22:21.000 Serious problems.
00:22:25.000 That if you want to come here with skills and with capital and to benefit our country, then there's a process to do that. 0.99
00:22:31.000 However, we are not going to keep our current immigration policy of unlimited refugee resettlement, open borders on the southern border to allow illegal entry into America.
00:22:42.000 And with the amazing takeaway, though, and again, if you just want to ignore all this data, that's fine.
00:22:48.000 I won't, because I think the data is super instructive from Trump's own pollster.
00:22:52.000 Trump's own pollster is that when you're actually stricter on immigration, you win the communities that other people say you're not going to win.
00:23:01.000 One of the big surprises, though, here that I will say, and it is an improvement.
00:23:08.000 And I will say this: that if I'm the Democrats, this is actually rather deflating.
00:23:13.000 If I can find this page here from Trump's pollster, again, it's like a 55-page report.
00:23:18.000 I encourage everyone to check it out.
00:23:20.000 Here it is.
00:23:21.000 That despite four years of Trump being called a racist, despite four years of BLM Incorporated and every single possible accusation from Amarosa to others, Donald Trump, according to these exit polls, did one point better with black voters. 0.99
00:23:44.000 That's a reason to celebrate. 0.96
00:23:47.000 It might not sound like much, but if Republicans, and by the way, it's one point better, but on a percentage basis, it's actually really good.
00:23:59.000 If you are increasing your level support in black and Hispanic communities in any way, shape, or form as a Republican, that is worthy of praise. 0.61
00:24:12.000 So it shows that Trump did better.
00:24:13.000 In fact, it shows that Trump did better with black voters than George W. Bush, than H.W. Bush, and he did better with black and Hispanic voters, more so than any Republican running for president since 1960.
00:24:27.000 Pretty incredible.
00:24:30.000 Where the erosion is, though, was with white men, in particular, white men over the age of 65.
00:24:39.000 Their number one issue was the Chinese coronavirus and the handling of that.
00:24:44.000 Donald Trump in the states that he held, I'm just talking about the states he held, okay?
00:24:49.000 I'm talking about states where you don't have any kind of concern about the legitimacy or the integrity.
00:24:54.000 I'm not even talking about Georgia.
00:24:56.000 I'm not talking about Arizona.
00:24:57.000 I'm not talking about Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania.
00:25:00.000 I'm talking about Texas.
00:25:01.000 I'm talking about Ohio.
00:25:02.000 I'm talking about Iowa.
00:25:03.000 I'm talking about Florida.
00:25:06.000 States that we have not had a discussion about any sort of sworn affidavits or anything around that.
00:25:11.000 States that you trust and I trust. 0.58
00:25:16.000 It shows that President Trump did three points worse with white women.
00:25:22.000 There is one lesson here.
00:25:25.000 Some of this data goes to show how much people hated Hillary Clinton, to be perfectly honest.
00:25:33.000 Secondly, the Chinese coronavirus did not help.
00:25:38.000 Now, I'm going to be very honest.
00:25:42.000 I am very, if you're in favor of wearing masks, please do it.
00:25:46.000 Wear two, wear three, wear however many Dr. Fauci tells you to wear.
00:25:50.000 I am, I love liberty.
00:25:51.000 I'm not going to tell you not to wear one.
00:25:53.000 You can wear one.
00:25:53.000 I'm indifferent.
00:25:54.000 I am, as Dennis Prager says, so I'm going to just quote him so I don't get in trouble.
00:26:00.000 I am mask agnostic.
00:26:03.000 There are certain studies that show they work.
00:26:04.000 There are certain studies that show they don't work at all.
00:26:07.000 Whatever.
00:26:08.000 The Danish study says there is no correlation at all whatsoever.
00:26:11.000 And Heather McDonald says in the City Journal, there's no correlation between the two.
00:26:15.000 However, the data here, according to Trump's own pollster, which again, it just kind of stuns me, shows that 75% of voters in both states that Trump won opposed a public mask mandate.
00:26:41.000 And that 58% of the people that favored a mask mandate voted for Joe Biden because of the mask mandate.
00:26:50.000 What this shows in the states that even Trump won is that the issue of masks became a wedge issue.
00:27:00.000 I'm going to tell you guys when I predict things correctly, like the Kamala Harris thing, I'm going to tell you when I'm just stunned.
00:27:06.000 This just stuns me.
00:27:08.000 I not exactly.
00:27:13.000 Let me tell you why.
00:27:15.000 In Florida, here's a better example.
00:27:19.000 Texas.
00:27:19.000 Let's use Texas.
00:27:20.000 Texas, you can open Carrie. 0.95
00:27:22.000 Is that right? 0.92
00:27:23.000 You can open Kerry Connor?
00:27:24.000 Sort of.
00:27:25.000 You could buy a firearm rather easily.
00:27:27.000 So you can buy a firearm rather easily only if you wear a mask.
00:27:32.000 So it just for me, just the inherent kind of contradictions here of we're cool with Second Amendment, but we're not so I thought that there would be a little bit more of a, we might want you to wear a mask at certain places, but we're not going to mandate it from the federal government.
00:27:48.000 That ends, according to Trump's own pollster, that ended up being a significant wedge issue in these states.
00:27:57.000 The other thing, according to Trump's pollster, in the states Trump won, okay, in the states Trump's Trump won, shows that 81%, 81% of voters in the states that Trump won, Texas, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, 81% believed that the virus was, quote, not at all under control.
00:28:27.000 These are the states that Trump won.
00:28:34.000 In the states that Trump won, 18% of voters felt that the virus was not under control at all.
00:28:52.000 Pretty stunning.
00:28:55.000 Here are some of the other key takeaways from the states that Trump won, according to Trump's own pollsters.
00:29:01.000 Again, I'm just ignoring Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona.
00:29:04.000 You guys can come to your own conclusions on that.
00:29:06.000 However, I do think this data is instructive, at least on the margins.
00:29:11.000 In the states that Trump won, Dr. Anthony Fauci had a three to one positive job approval rating.
00:29:21.000 These are the states that Trump won.
00:29:26.000 The Chinese coronavirus was the top issue in both state groups.
00:29:34.000 And President Trump's job approval was very mixed.
00:29:37.000 It was mixed where a lot of people thought he was doing good on the economy and foreign policy, but not very good on the Chinese coronavirus.
00:29:44.000 Why President Trump did not do a peace tour in every state, bragging about how he started no new wars and negotiated peace?
00:29:51.000 Do you know that in the two debates that President Trump had and the one debate that Vice President Pence had, they did not mention once that peace was negotiated between Israel, UAE, Buran, Bahrain, Sudan, and the Middle East?
00:30:03.000 Not once was that mentioned.
00:30:06.000 The polling shows that peace is popular.
00:30:08.000 Who would have thought that peace is popular?
00:30:10.000 Now, Joe Biden's probably going to get us in some sort of skirmish in Burma.
00:30:14.000 And if you can find Burma on a map, I'll send you a signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine.
00:30:17.000 I'm half kidding. 0.96
00:30:19.000 But to summarize all of this, and we'll get into this in another segment, is that when you oppose amnesty and you have strict immigration, you win Hispanics and blacks. 0.99
00:30:28.000 And that perception is reality. 0.94
00:30:30.000 That President Trump's response to the Chinese coronavirus was awesome.
00:30:34.000 His communication, though, people perceived as if it was out of control.
00:30:39.000 If he would have just played a role on TV like Andrew Cuomo, in fact, I can make the argument, Trump was too honest.
00:30:48.000 We are just finishing Trump's pollster, his own report that was just made public.
00:30:53.000 And I think it's very instructive.
00:30:54.000 We're only talking about states that I don't think anyone listening to this would find objections with.
00:30:59.000 We're not talking about Arizona or Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin.
00:31:03.000 We're talking about Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, Ohio.
00:31:07.000 And just interestingly, how President Trump did so much better with Hispanics and blacks and a little bit worse with white blue-collar voters.
00:31:18.000 And part of it, and I want to make this very clear: part of it is I think a campaign strategy could have been different, a communication strategy could have been different.
00:31:25.000 But also, we were up against massive social media fraud.
00:31:28.000 We were up against social media tech censorship.
00:31:32.000 We are up against the inability to talk about Hunter Biden and his laptop.
00:31:38.000 We were up against a social media cartel that said, if you talk about this, you're going to lose your accounts.
00:31:46.000 We were up against an activist media that conveniently, every single day, talked about how Donald Trump was responsible for the Chinese coronavirus deaths.
00:31:58.000 So two can play this game.
00:32:00.000 Did you know today there are 611 children that have been separated from their parents at the border still?
00:32:07.000 Did you know that since Joe Biden got sworn into office, thousands of people have died from the Chinese coronavirus?
00:32:13.000 Is he worthy of blame for that?
00:32:15.000 Of course not.
00:32:16.000 It's a virus.
00:32:16.000 That's what happens.
00:32:18.000 We as conservatives are not quick to all of a sudden say, well, now he's to blame for all of it.
00:32:22.000 Instead, we can blame him for probing and proposing and eventually backpedaling on wanting to vaccinate terrorists ahead of American citizens.
00:32:37.000 That would be something worthy of attacking or criticizing, I should say.
00:32:42.000 And so we were up against massive headwinds in the 2020 election, where Joe Biden received almost zero negative press coverage, where there was a multi-institutional agreement between all places of power that were supposed to be objective, that they were going to put their objectivity aside temporarily and suspend it to go get a win for the decent guys because we have to unify the country,
00:33:10.000 which is their belief is we have to have the absence of opposition.
00:33:15.000 So every sort of societal referee that we were supposed to have, that was supposed to call balls and strikes, or umpire a societal umpire, they took a break, every single one of them.
00:33:30.000 From how we conducted elections to social media, to the activist media, to journalists, to academia, to the fact checkers, to the means of communication, all of them, because of their misimpression and misinterpretation of Donald Trump and the threat that he posed to their own power, they decided we are not going to be umpires anymore.
00:33:52.000 We are going to put on a jersey and we're going to play for the other team.
00:33:55.000 Now, the significance of that is we were playing from an altered and edited terrain during the entire campaign.
00:34:03.000 We tried to get information out.
00:34:04.000 It was immediately distorted.
00:34:07.000 You put one piece of information into the system.
00:34:09.000 It came out as disinformation.
00:34:13.000 President Trump's supporters are assaulted outside of the White House by BLM, Incorporated in Antifa after the Republican National Convention.
00:34:20.000 No coverage of that whatsoever.
00:34:22.000 Zero.
00:34:24.000 President Trump gets a vaccine.
00:34:26.000 No coverage of that whatsoever.
00:34:28.000 President Trump gets the Chinese coronavirus. 0.95
00:34:30.000 Liberal activists wish him dead.
00:34:32.000 And they get away with it.
00:34:34.000 So we were dealing with a different paradigm where all the other conventional rules of even running a campaign in 2016 were temporarily suspended.
00:34:44.000 However, I'm afraid that temporary suspension might be permanent.
00:34:49.000 I'm afraid that we are never going to get back to the time where the umpires are going to get back to calling balls and strikes, where the next time we run an election, all of a sudden the fact checkers are still going to be in the pathological left-wing category, that the institution of influence will still be in the pathological left-wing category.
00:35:07.000 And so now we have to look at all this data and all this misinterpretation of reality and adjust, change the way we do elections.
00:35:15.000 You have to put pressure on Georgia and Arizona today to change the way we do elections.
00:35:21.000 Voter ID, vote verification, paper ballots, reduce mail and ballots wherever we can, strict signature verification standards, do what we did in Florida all across the country.
00:35:31.000 And secondly, we have to learn from this, at least from a public policy perspective, and say we are not going to embrace amnesty that will make us lose votes with the Hispanic community.
00:35:42.000 That was the Simpson-Mazzoli Act that Ronald Reagan signed in the 1980s.
00:35:47.000 So there's a lot of takeaways here.
00:35:50.000 But the biggest of all of them, in my personal opinion, is that President Trump broadened the reach of the Republican Party.
00:35:57.000 Now it's up to us to say, are we going to fix the way we do elections and continuing that expansion?
00:36:02.000 Or are we going to retreat back to the failures that plagued us for decades before?
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