The Charlie Kirk Show - Trump's Cabinet Will Change D.C. Forever

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00:01:28.000 Joining us now is Senator Eric Schmidt, who does a phenomenal job.

00:01:31.000 Senator, thank you for taking the time.

00:01:32.000 Senator, update us.

00:01:33.000 What is the confirmation schedule that we are looking at here?

00:01:36.000 Pete Hegseth, Pam Bondi, Sean Duffy, what are we looking at?

00:01:40.000 Hey, before we get to that, how is Greenland?

00:01:43.000 I haven't talked to you.

00:01:45.000 It was incredible.

00:01:48.000 I'm on record.

00:01:50.000 When we get it, we're going to call it Magadonia, okay?

00:01:54.000 I love it.

00:01:55.000 I love it.

00:01:56.000 And President Trump can have a northern winter White House called MAGA Igloo.

00:02:01.000 Instead of Mara Igloo, it'll be Mara Igloo. 0.97

00:02:04.000 It was incredible.

00:02:05.000 The people are just wonderful people.

00:02:07.000 They love America.

00:02:08.000 They do not like the Danes.

00:02:10.000 It is some of the most beautiful country I have ever seen.

00:02:12.000 Just untouched.

00:02:14.000 Frontier, as serene as it gets.

00:02:17.000 And finally, you just got a little window talking to people.

00:02:20.000 The untapped natural resources there, from the oil to the lithium to the nickel to the rubies to the gold to the silver.

00:02:26.000 It's truly extraordinary.

00:02:28.000 So I was honored to be able to go down there.

00:02:31.000 I don't think people should discount this.

00:02:33.000 I think this is an important tenet of new American realism.

00:02:37.000 I'm serious about this.

00:02:38.000 People are tired of the $200 billion for Ukraine.

00:02:42.000 When the Chinese control the Panama Canal and we have the opportunity to get the natural resources and the strategic advantage in Greenland.

00:02:51.000 Stay tuned on this.

00:02:52.000 I don't think this issue is going away.

00:02:53.000 I'm glad you got a chance to go up there.

00:02:55.000 No, and look, people can make fun of it, but there is significant geopolitical reasons for Greenland to be part of the United States, natural resource reasons, and the way to look at it is either China, Russia, or the United States will end up controlling Greenland.

00:03:09.000 Take your pick.

00:03:10.000 And consolidating North American and hemispheric hegemony is critical.

00:03:17.000 As China rises, we need to have a safe haven of a hemispheric free society. 0.57

00:03:22.000 And the Panama Canal is critical of that, and so is Greenland.

00:03:25.000 So, Senator, we need you to carry that.

00:03:29.000 I mean, and also with space.

00:03:31.000 China's, you know, they're coming in a real way, and that's a strategic location for sort of the next frontier. 0.97

00:03:37.000 I mean, whoever controls, you know, China might declare the moon entirely theirs. 0.60

00:03:41.000 Whoever gets to Mars first.

00:03:42.000 So this isn't science fiction stuff.

00:03:44.000 This is part of securing America's future.

00:03:46.000 So I think it's important.

00:03:47.000 And yeah, we will have the Gulf of America, and then we can have the moon of America.

00:03:51.000 We'll see.

00:03:52.000 All right, Senator, speaking of Space Force, that is under Pete Hegseth's potential jurisdiction.

00:03:59.000 Pete Hegseth went from the media saying he was dead and on life support now to looking as if it's almost a guarantee he will be confirmed.

00:04:07.000 Is that the correct analysis and what is the schedule in front of us?

00:04:11.000 Yeah, so Pete Hegseth will be in front of the Armed Services Committee, which I serve on Tuesday.

00:04:16.000 And I think that's right.

00:04:18.000 I think that...

00:04:19.000 As much as they try to ratchet up some sort of outrage, as they always do, Pete's the right guy for the job.

00:04:26.000 And I think you look at the consistent theme of all the picks that President Trump has picked, with the view that he ran, you know, as much as it was R&D, it was disruptor versus establishment.

00:04:37.000 And all of these picks are coming in as reformers.

00:04:40.000 And we need that at the Pentagon.

00:04:42.000 And so what, you know, what I've talked to Pete about, and I think what he's committed to doing is, first and foremost, getting rid of DEI. Immediately.

00:04:50.000 We've been able to make some gains in recent years, but this is divisive.

00:04:54.000 It has no place in our military.

00:04:55.000 We shouldn't be dividing the room by oppressor and oppressed.

00:04:58.000 We need to have the most lethal fighting force in the world, and that's the goal.

00:05:02.000 So I think he's going to do that, a real focus on China, and then also procurement reform.

00:05:06.000 I mean, we've got to be able to do things better and more efficiently than we're doing right now.

00:05:10.000 And I think Pete's going to come in there and have a cultural shift.

00:05:13.000 He's also...

00:05:14.000 A warfighter's warfighter, right?

00:05:16.000 Like, this guy served.

00:05:18.000 I think he's going to command respect.

00:05:19.000 And don't underestimate the ability for us to recruit when they see somebody like Pete Hexeth leading the Pentagon as opposed to somebody like Lloyd Austin, who famously was wearing the mask in the Philippines during COVID. Disaster.

00:05:35.000 No, it was more than the mask, Senator.

00:05:36.000 It was the mask with the visor.

00:05:38.000 With the entire kind of...

00:05:40.000 Shield.

00:05:41.000 He was wearing the face mask, and then he had the shield.

00:05:43.000 Yeah, the face shield, which was just a joke.

00:05:46.000 Not to mention, remember, Secretary Austin was privately hospitalized without informing the chain of command.

00:05:54.000 This happened, and we really didn't have a secretary of defense for some time, which is just completely outrageous.

00:06:00.000 So this is important, everybody.

00:06:02.000 Pete Hegseth looked as if he was just dead to rights.

00:06:06.000 It was over.

00:06:08.000 And you in this audience helped pull Pete Hegseth across the finish line.

00:06:11.000 You took out your shovels.

00:06:13.000 You did the ditch work that was necessary.

00:06:17.000 And here we are.

00:06:18.000 Pete Hegseth is now almost a guarantee to be confirmed.

00:06:21.000 We drew a red line.

00:06:23.000 We said, Miss Ernst, back off. 1.00

00:06:27.000 And it turns as if the message was heard loud and clear.

00:06:31.000 Senator, the...

00:06:33.000 The other confirmations, can you explain to our audience how you do confirmations even before the Trump administration begins?

00:06:39.000 Can you just explain how that all works?

00:06:41.000 Yeah, so we were, you know, the new Congress has sworn in.

00:06:44.000 And so the president takes the oath of office on January 20th in 10 days, can't come soon enough.

00:06:50.000 But we're in session.

00:06:52.000 So we got committees organized this week.

00:06:54.000 It was our first week back.

00:06:56.000 And so we're trying to line up these confirmation hearings as fast as we can and try to get some of them done.

00:07:01.000 By Confirmation Day, or, you know, January 20th for President Trump, so he can get moving.

00:07:07.000 So I think the Senate's pretty committed to moving these confirmations quickly.

00:07:10.000 We've got Pete Hegseth on Tuesday, and Pam Bondi will be on Wednesday.

00:07:15.000 So I'm also on the Judiciary Committee.

00:07:17.000 We'll be hearing from Pam on Wednesday, and she's a slam-dunk pick. 0.97

00:07:22.000 I mean, I know Pam from State AG World.

00:07:24.000 She is tough as nails. 0.80

00:07:26.000 she's serious she's a reformer she's going to come into doj an agency of course as everyone watching knows has been weaponized against political opponents been weaponized against catholics been weaponized against parents who showed up to school board meetings during covid i mean it's totally lost its way she's going to restore credibility and get it back to its core mission of taking on violent crime and we've got a lot of that uh to take on in cities across the country senator the The Senate schedule is going to be rather ambitious.

00:07:55.000 Can you kind of bring us into the room?

00:07:58.000 President Trump took D.C. by storm the last couple of days.

00:08:01.000 I talked to a couple lawmakers.

00:08:03.000 They said, yeah, you know, we had an ambitious schedule.

00:08:05.000 Then President Trump mentioned another 55 things he wants to get done.

00:08:09.000 Bring us into the room.

00:08:10.000 What was it like hearing from President Trump in D.C. these last couple of days?

00:08:14.000 Well, you know, I was down in Mar-a-Lago the week before we came back and got to spend some time with him.

00:08:20.000 And even there...

00:08:22.000 Man, he's just ready to roll.

00:08:24.000 Like, he loves America.

00:08:25.000 You know this.

00:08:26.000 And he's ready to go.

00:08:27.000 And he's picking his team, and we want to get his team on the field as quickly as possible.

00:08:32.000 But he came in.

00:08:33.000 He was on Capitol Hill on, I guess that was Wednesday.

00:08:36.000 Came to our Senate conference.

00:08:37.000 I know he's meeting with a lot of House members this weekend at Mar-a-Lago.

00:08:41.000 But he understands, and I certainly understand.

00:08:45.000 I think my colleagues understand.

00:08:47.000 Part of the...

00:08:48.000 Important thing of leadership is understanding the moment that you're in, right?

00:08:52.000 We have a very unique opportunity with him winning the mandate, having control of the House and the Senate to actually deliver for the American people.

00:09:02.000 And we can't squander a day.

00:09:03.000 So we're talking about these confirmations to get, you know, his team on the field and have reform on the inside.

00:09:08.000 That's important.

00:09:09.000 But also, as we look to securing the border, as we look to being energy dominant, as we look to, you know...

00:09:15.000 Restoring our place in the world.

00:09:17.000 Having an economy that works for working families.

00:09:20.000 So it's gonna be busy.

00:09:21.000 So if you think about it, the Senate has the confirmation duty.

00:09:24.000 We're gonna be doing all that.

00:09:25.000 We're gonna be working on that.

00:09:26.000 We're also gonna be working with CRAs to overturn some late rules that Joe Biden put into place.

00:09:35.000 The kind of Trump proof will be doing that.

00:09:36.000 And then working on this reconciliation package.

00:09:39.000 My view is I want to get some wins on the board as quickly as possible for President Trump.

00:09:43.000 I don't want to squander any time, including the first 100 days.

00:09:47.000 So, you know, we're having an internal discussion.

00:09:50.000 Is that one bill?

00:09:51.000 Is that two bills?

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00:10:54.000 Senator, tell us your thoughts and walk the audience through one versus two bills.

00:11:01.000 If you think about this, because we have both chambers, we have the ability to move forward to what's called reconciliation, meaning if it's dealing with these budget issues and budget savings, in the Senate, we don't need 60 votes.

00:11:17.000 We just need 51 votes, and we've got 53 votes.

00:11:20.000 So reconciliation provides us a great opportunity to not have to rely on Democrats for any votes on the big-ticket items that we want to get done.

00:11:29.000 And so the question then is, the House is sort of, hey, we want to do one bill, and I'm sympathetic in the sense that these are well-meaning folks who have a very, very slim majority.

00:11:40.000 We have a slightly bigger majority in the Senate.

00:11:42.000 But my issue is, I think...

00:11:45.000 You look at what, you know, spent a lot of time with President Trump on the trail, as you did.

00:11:48.000 He was very consistent about securing the border, being energy dominant, all those things.

00:11:54.000 I just want to make sure we get some wins on the board early.

00:11:57.000 I don't want to squander that time period where people are, you know, November wasn't that far in the rearview mirror.

00:12:03.000 People understand what that election was all about.

00:12:05.000 We can go do it.

00:12:06.000 And then you've got the issues that, you know, the tax cuts from 2017 are set to expire at the end of 2025. Right?

00:12:13.000 So we've got all year to make sure that gets done.

00:12:15.000 What I don't want to see, and my concern is with one bill, is that we get to March and we haven't done any of these big ticket items.

00:12:22.000 We're going to be in a spending fight and a debt ceiling fight with the Democrats then.

00:12:26.000 And if we haven't had any points on the board, it's just going to feel like, you know, I want to deliver early.

00:12:32.000 And we're going to have leverage to get those tax cuts extended and make them permanent because they expire.

00:12:38.000 So we have our own leverage on that to get that done.

00:12:41.000 So my feeling is let's not empower Chuck Schumer to have any more leverage than we need to.

00:12:46.000 Let's get this stuff done before March when we have that CR and debt ceiling fight and then continue to work on a second reconciliation package in the summer.

00:12:55.000 Because worst case scenario, I just don't want to be in July and August not having got a lot of the stuff done that President Trump ran on.

00:13:02.000 That's so important.

00:13:03.000 And also, if you have one big bill and fails, that's your whole legislative agenda, potentially, right?

00:13:09.000 And if you get an early border bill, reconciliation, we can build up momentum.

00:13:15.000 What is the argument for one bill?

00:13:17.000 I've heard it.

00:13:18.000 Let's just kind of steel man that.

00:13:19.000 And who is the one?

00:13:20.000 This is not a criticism.

00:13:22.000 I'm friends with a lot of them.

00:13:23.000 It seems like the House is more in favor of one bill and the Senate is more in favor of two bills.

00:13:28.000 Is that correct?

00:13:29.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:13:30.000 The House, at least right now, or what Speaker Johnson has articulated, although I'm not sure that's a uniform position in the House.

00:13:37.000 But look, I'm sympathetic that it's not an easy task with a one to three vote majority over there on this stuff.

00:13:44.000 But the argument for them is, hey, we won't get a second bite of the apple.

00:13:48.000 We got to make sure we have everything in one so it'll provide maximum leverage to make sure everybody's getting what they want in one big bill.

00:13:55.000 I will say, though, that I think the Senate, Senate Republicans are unified in our belief.

00:14:01.000 And I'm not sure there's a dissenting opinion that we ought to break this up and let's get some early wins.

00:14:06.000 And so, look, ultimately this is President Trump's call.

00:14:10.000 And I think we are all committed to getting this done and, you know, securing those wins.

00:14:19.000 This is just a, you know, a strategic...

00:14:22.000 It's an ongoing discussion if it's one bill or two.

00:14:25.000 We're all on the same team.

00:14:27.000 And like I said, President Trump's the quarterback.

00:14:29.000 He's ultimately going to make the call.

00:14:30.000 But I think objectively, the best strategy here is to get one, you know, a border package done early and then let's deal with the other stuff later in the year.

00:14:40.000 So final question.

00:14:41.000 I heard from somebody who was in some of these meetings yesterday on President Trump's team.

00:14:45.000 They said it was a markably different type of tone being around the Senate conference than it was in 2019 or 2020.

00:14:51.000 It was seems that there was an agreement amongst the senators that this was Trump's party and that MAGA was here to say, did you get that sense with your meetings with president Trump these last couple of days?

00:15:01.000 Absolutely.

00:15:02.000 Now, look, I came in, in the 2022 cycle.

00:15:04.000 I think one of the things that's also true is you have a younger group of members that have come in since 2018, really.

00:15:11.000 That, you know, when Trump has been on the stage, I think it's transformed our conference in many ways to sort of America first.

00:15:19.000 But Trump is, you know, it's not disputed at all that he's the leader of our party.

00:15:22.000 And by the way, the reason we have 53 votes in the Senate and why we have a House majority and why we are the party of American workers now.

00:15:30.000 We are a broad-based party with great opportunities ahead.

00:15:34.000 Now, one of the things...

00:15:35.000 That you guys did really well at Turning Point was that means with that broader base, we have more lower propensity voters, so we've got to make sure people show up and vote.

00:15:43.000 But this is the path moving forward.

00:15:46.000 And I do think in that room, everybody understood the role that President Trump played for us to be in this very unique historical position where we have the House and the Senate and the White House.

00:15:57.000 To get this stuff done and deliver.

00:16:00.000 So I don't think there's any disputing that at all.

00:16:02.000 And I'm very much at home in this party, Charlie.

00:16:05.000 I grew up in a working class blue-collar neighborhood in the St. Louis area.

00:16:09.000 And so to have our party now representing the people who do that hard work every day is exactly where we ought to be.

00:16:18.000 Senator, you do a great job.

00:16:19.000 We'll see you next week at the inauguration.

00:16:21.000 Thanks so much.

00:16:22.000 All right, brother.

00:16:22.000 We'll see you.

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00:17:38.000 Fire Chief Muncy welcomes the program.

00:17:40.000 Mr. Muncy, do you have fires right now in San Bernardino or are you mostly controlled?

00:17:45.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:17:45.000 Hey, I'm sorry you don't have any partners right now, but I'll see if I can fill that gap.

00:17:49.000 We've been doing pretty well in San Bernardino County.

00:17:51.000 Our firefighters are keeping the fire small.

00:17:54.000 We've had about half the wind speeds, I think, that we've seen in L.A., and we were blessed a couple days ago to start getting a little snow on our upper elevations.

00:18:01.000 All that's been real helpful with keeping our fire small.

00:18:04.000 We have sent quite a few resources over to L.A. County and L.A. City.

00:18:08.000 Our hearts are just with our brother and sisters over there.

00:18:12.000 They've got a tough job.

00:18:13.000 With what they're facing.

00:18:15.000 This kind of devastation in 29 years, I'd love to say it's unheard of, but it just seems like it's becoming more and more commonplace.

00:18:24.000 Over the last 20 years, the fires have just increased in magnitude and frequency.

00:18:30.000 I think it's double what it was when I first started.

00:18:33.000 It's a shame, and it's not lack of effort by these firefighters.

00:18:38.000 They are, the acts of bravery that we've witnessed, that we've heard the stories from, talking to the fire chiefs in this area, they are fully committed and engaged and definitely have saved, well, it doesn't seem like it, they've saved, say, billions of dollars of property and saved countless human lives.

00:18:55.000 And I think that's going to be the true testament as we walk away from this.

00:18:58.000 What can we do different as we move into the future?

00:19:00.000 What could we have done differently in the heat of the moment?

00:19:03.000 But at the same time, recognizing the efforts of...

00:19:06.000 Of the men and women that truly put their lives on the line.

00:19:11.000 One story, for instance, I was talking to our strike team leaders that's over in the Palisades.

00:19:17.000 And at the time I talked to him, he said he hadn't slept in 36 hours.

00:19:21.000 And his crews were still actively fighting fire.

00:19:24.000 That's what our firefighters are facing year-round.

00:19:27.000 It's not just the fire season anymore.

00:19:30.000 It's January.

00:19:31.000 This is a new year.

00:19:31.000 This is not supposed to happen, but this is a reality that we face.

00:19:35.000 So explain to me as a layman how it's possible that fire hydrants don't have water and that there's a lack of water to fight fires.

00:19:43.000 Help me understand that.

00:19:44.000 As a layman, you know, I live in a small house.

00:19:47.000 If I take a shower before my wife and I go too long, she doesn't have a hot water. 1.00

00:19:50.000 Why?

00:19:51.000 It's because you only have so much water in tanks and a hot water heater needs to heat up, right?

00:19:57.000 The same thing is occurring here.

00:19:59.000 So you have more and more firefighters taking water in the system.

00:20:02.000 Look at that fire.

00:20:03.000 I mean, you need hundreds of thousands of gallons a minute to be able to combat something like this.

00:20:08.000 You essentially have more water flowing out of the system than what's flowing into the system, number one.

00:20:14.000 You deplete your reservoirs.

00:20:16.000 The second is our water systems in our urban areas, especially in what we're showing on the video right now.

00:20:23.000 They're not gravity-fed.

00:20:24.000 They're often fed by pumps.

00:20:26.000 These pumps could be supplying tanks that are on hills that are gravity-fed, but often it's used to pump the pressure.

00:20:32.000 So when you see these kind of trees that are on fire in these houses, you can imagine utilities are also affected.

00:20:39.000 You lose power to your pumps, and now you have less pressure.

00:20:43.000 Finally, look at this house that's burning down.

00:20:46.000 What you're going to find when these houses are done burning is that the water is just running out of this house until you go turn the water meter off.

00:20:52.000 So you have so much water that's being wasted as well.

00:20:56.000 With this kind of devastation on this kind of scale, it's absolutely predictable that your water system is just not going to be able to maintain the fire flow that's required.

00:21:07.000 Fire flow is just never designed for this.

00:21:10.000 And I would go further and say it's not really feasible to examine.

00:21:14.000 You know, how do you increase the pressure?

00:21:16.000 How do you increase the diameter of the pipes?

00:21:17.000 We're talking billions of dollars in infrastructure that would be required for this.

00:21:22.000 Now, the state of California did a good thing.

00:21:24.000 They sent a lot of water tenders into the fire, but let's talk a little about that.

00:21:29.000 A water tender is a truck that's going to carry 2,500 gallons or larger is what the state requested.

00:21:36.000 They're going to have to go find a water hydrant that has water and then drive back and supply these fire trucks.

00:21:42.000 And then they're going to turn around again, and they're going to go find water.

00:21:45.000 At times, they might find a static water source like a pool or a lake, generally freshwater, and they'll draw water from that.

00:21:51.000 But it's very time-consuming.

00:21:53.000 So one of the best things we can start doing is restoring the water system.

00:21:57.000 Utilities as a whole is going to be very impactful in these particular areas until they're able to do that.

00:22:04.000 So help me understand, I mean, wouldn't part of the problem based on what you're describing is a water supply?

00:22:09.000 And so just capturing more water from rainfall would definitionally then help the supply and you would have a surplus.

00:22:16.000 There's billions of tons of water that very well could be captured from rainfall that they let go into the ocean, right?

00:22:22.000 Yeah, storm drainage.

00:22:22.000 I'm not a water manager.

00:22:24.000 I spent a couple of years elected in our water districts.

00:22:26.000 I think you're right.

00:22:28.000 There is a lot of water that we allow to return to the sea.

00:22:32.000 There's a wide variety of reasons of why that's occurring.

00:22:36.000 Having that water that's available.

00:22:38.000 That we can use for firefighting is always going to be beneficial.

00:22:41.000 But in reality, too, I'm going to go back to the scale of this fire.

00:22:45.000 You can only put so much water on the fire.

00:22:48.000 There's only so many firefighters.

00:22:50.000 Having an uninterrupted supply of water isn't going to stop this fire.

00:22:56.000 It may save more structures, definitely.

00:22:58.000 It may save human lives, definitely.

00:23:01.000 But we're talking about an absolute natural disaster.

00:23:04.000 We're talking about high wind speeds.

00:23:06.000 We're talking about ember casts.

00:23:07.000 There was a video earlier of embers just being blown by the wind.

00:23:11.000 Those embers are traveling at times up to two miles.

00:23:15.000 They're catching vegetation on fire.

00:23:16.000 They're getting up underneath the eaves of houses.

00:23:18.000 They're starting spot fires.

00:23:20.000 As a firefighter, you're chasing the fire at this point.

00:23:24.000 You're not making a defensive stand and stopping the fire.

00:23:30.000 Okay, so let's go to arson.

00:23:33.000 How many of these fires do you think might be responsible for people setting them, homelessness and arson related?

00:23:40.000 As an industry, I think we do pretty well knowing that conditions have been hot and dry.

00:23:43.000 We've been putting out the signage.

00:23:45.000 We've been doing radio announcements.

00:23:47.000 We literally, in San Bernardino, we fly our helicopters over the homeless areas and announce to them when danger is going to occur.

00:23:53.000 At the end of the day, unfortunately, A lot of the fire service is in business because people tend to do unsmart things.

00:24:01.000 They're negligent.

00:24:02.000 There are several fires that are caused each year in our jurisdiction, other jurisdictions, by homelessness.

00:24:07.000 There's a wide variety of why the homelessness have fires.

00:24:11.000 And in the case of this January, it's just simply cold and they have warming fires.

00:24:14.000 Or they may be cooking food or cooking other things.

00:24:18.000 They are using it to sometimes make money if theft.

00:24:22.000 For instance, if they're stealing copper waters, they'll strip the...

00:24:26.000 The coverings of the proper wires.

00:24:28.000 All of these fires have the chance of getting out of control.

00:24:32.000 But we also have citizens doing things like this.

00:24:34.000 Unfortunately, a couple of fires have been on more than once have been citizens that have been outside welding on days that have fire dangers.

00:24:42.000 And that just a little spark gets into a brush.

00:24:44.000 Next thing you know, you have a large fire.

00:24:46.000 So this is a problem.

00:24:47.000 If I were to give you a percentile, I would say that over half of our wildfires that we respond to are human caused by negligence.

00:24:56.000 Maybe about 25% could be attributed to some sort of homelessness activity.

00:25:03.000 But generally, we're keeping those fires pretty small.

00:25:06.000 They don't tend to just go make a warming fire in an area that they know that's going to spread to vegetation because they want to really be left alone.

00:25:16.000 So, Dan, just in closing here, what what can people do to help this tragedy here?

00:25:22.000 Thank you.

00:25:23.000 I think you can always donate to the United Way and Red Cross.

00:25:26.000 At these points, we have people that want to volunteer and help.

00:25:29.000 Look to those organizations.

00:25:31.000 Typically, the fire agencies will be inundated by people wanting to help out.

00:25:36.000 But remember that we're totally engaged in this fire.

00:25:39.000 We're going to remain engaged in these fires for quite some time.

00:25:42.000 You can also donate money to those organizations that will help those in needs.

00:25:49.000 Really, what I need you to do to move forward, though, is realize, citizens, you're a part in keeping fires small.

00:25:56.000 We need you to work with your local fire authorities.

00:25:59.000 Please go to their websites.

00:26:00.000 Look at what fire safety looks like in your particular area.

00:26:04.000 Almost 80% of Californians live in a wildland-urban interface.

00:26:08.000 That's a huge percentage of our population.

00:26:10.000 Start with your house.

00:26:12.000 Making sure you're meeting with contractors.

00:26:14.000 You're making sure that you're fire.

00:26:16.000 Your house is constructed in a safe manner to prevent a wildfire, that you're following those guidelines that you'll find on the websites about removing fuels away from your house, that you're examining the trees, the shrubs, the grasses, removing them, creating fire breaks around your property will keep those fires from spreading and destroying your house.

00:26:35.000 My heart goes out to the LA City and LA County firefighters that are working so hard and citizens that have lost their houses.

00:26:41.000 Charlie, thank you for highlighting these issues and having me as a guest.

00:26:44.000 Thank you.

00:26:45.000 Thanks, Dan.

00:26:46.000 God bless you.

00:26:46.000 Thanks so much.

00:26:47.000 Appreciate it.

00:26:48.000 Okay, now getting to our next guest.

00:26:50.000 You guys can email us.

00:26:52.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com is Isabel Brown.

00:26:54.000 Isabel Brown is very popular on TikTok.

00:26:57.000 TikTok, by the way, is scheduled to be banned in the United States.

00:27:02.000 On the 19th of January, coming up in nine days from now, it's gonna be in the hands of President Trump.

00:27:07.000 The law gives President Trump the ability to either keep the ban or to allow TikTok to operate or to allow it under what could be some sort of a settlement.

00:27:16.000 But in the meantime, the Supreme Court may or may strike down the law, allow TikTok to continue to operate.

00:27:23.000 Over 170 million Americans use TikTok, and we reach billions of people on TikTok.

00:27:28.000 Joining us now is Isabel Brown.

00:27:30.000 Isabel, welcome to the program.

00:27:31.000 Isabel, talk about the profound impact that TikTok has had making Gen Z more conservative. 0.58

00:27:37.000 Well, the truth is, Charlie, we wouldn't be preparing for a Trump inauguration in just over a week if it weren't for TikTok.

00:27:44.000 It has been astounding to see the impact that that campaign had on one social media platform.

00:27:50.000 In fact, according to TikTok employees, Trump is outperforming his performance on every other social media platform on TikTok by a factor of five.

00:27:59.000 So he's five times more impactful on TikTok than anywhere else.

00:28:03.000 But of that nearly 200 million Americans that you just mentioned, That use the platform every single day.

00:28:09.000 About 70% of those individuals are Generation Z, are this next great generation that we're starting to see become overwhelmingly conservative, largely because of accounts like yours, Donald Trump's, and so many others engaging with young people in an authentic, honest conversation that feels a lot more tangible and accessible on TikTok than it does on meta or YouTube, per se.

00:28:31.000 What would a ban of TikTok mean for conservative creators and the progress you've been making to make Gen Z red? 0.98

00:28:38.000 What's been really fascinating this last week is that there's been a much larger conversation opening up related to free speech on social media, not just from the First Amendment perspective, but from content policy and moderation perspectives, too.

00:28:51.000 In fact, Mark Zuckerberg just said they're backtracking on Meta to get rid of fact checkers and censorship of conservative ideas, largely because of TikTok.

00:29:00.000 Now, I know we've all had our frustrations with certain censorship issues and accounts getting shut down over the last several years, but I've been screaming from the rooftops for For about a year and a half that only one platform has been regularly reaching out to myself and other conservative creators to insist that we have a home on their platform, and that is TikTok.

00:29:18.000 Frankly, the only reason that these conservative values are becoming trendy and cool again is because young people are confronting them where they are in a language they understand.

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00:30:33.000 Let me play some pieces of tape here of some of our viral moments on TikTok.

00:30:40.000 Billions and billions of views.

00:30:41.000 This video right here got 50 million views.

00:30:43.000 Playcut 157. Are you voting for Kamala?

00:30:46.000 I am.

00:30:47.000 Okay, what is her...

00:30:48.000 What is her greatest...

00:30:51.000 Free speech?

00:30:52.000 Free speech?

00:30:52.000 Yeah, they have the freedom of speech to boo you.

00:30:54.000 That's right.

00:30:55.000 Do I have the freedom of speech?

00:30:56.000 Okay, so if I boo them, if I boo them, then it's an impediment of freedom of...

00:31:00.000 No, but I just gave you an open mic for 15 minutes.

00:31:03.000 Just tell me, what is Kamala Harris' greatest accomplishment?

00:31:06.000 See, that question, you can't...

00:31:15.000 Okay.

00:31:17.000 The greatest accomplishment, that goes back to sort of establishing an extreme.

00:31:24.000 Email us, freedomatcharliekirk.com.

00:31:26.000 TikTok is scheduled to be banned on the 19th, and I was a skeptic, and I saw the impact and the power that TikTok can have.

00:31:36.000 So, Isabel, TikTok is scheduled to be banned on the 19th of January.

00:31:42.000 The Supreme Court heard the case today.

00:31:44.000 We have no idea how that case will end up.

00:31:46.000 It might strike down the law, which is very unlikely.

00:31:49.000 President Trump has it in his ability to save TikTok.

00:31:52.000 The law allows the president to strike a deal to say what is a qualified divestiture.

00:31:58.000 I was just reading about it.

00:31:59.000 Do you think President Trump should save TikTok?

00:32:03.000 Absolutely do, Charlie, namely because this is a matter of First Amendment freedom of expression rights for all American citizens.

00:32:10.000 I'd be really curious to hear everything that was said in the oral arguments today, but I do know this free speech angle was of the utmost importance for TikTok's legal team, and I'm sure will be based in existing Supreme Court precedent from a case back in the 1960s called Lamont v.

00:32:26.000 Postmaster General.

00:32:27.000 Way back then, American citizens wanted to receive propaganda that the United States government So when our federal government,

00:32:50.000 namely Congress from a bipartisan perspective, is making the argument that this is against the issues of national security currently occupied by the White House and by those on Capitol Hill, they're really ignoring.

00:33:01.000 This right to receive that Americans have baked into our Constitution to not just say something that might be unpopular, but to hear a difference of opinion as well.

00:33:11.000 The ramifications for banning TikTok, how many small businesses use TikTok?

00:33:20.000 What are the economic potential ramifications here?

00:33:23.000 Again, I think that something needs to be probably cleaned up on the data side.

00:33:26.000 Make sure that American data is not shared with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:33:29.000 Some sort of deal struck.

00:33:31.000 Maybe bring in a third-party data company.

00:33:34.000 I'm just thinking out loud here.

00:33:35.000 But as a creator, I was super skeptical.

00:33:37.000 And Isabel, you were like, no, you got to use TikTok.

00:33:40.000 You got to use TikTok.

00:33:40.000 And we sent out this proclamation because we were banned so many times.

00:33:44.000 We got banned from TikTok like 35 times.

00:33:46.000 And Ryan was like, you got to keep posting.

00:33:47.000 So we sent out this big tweet.

00:33:49.000 And we said, hey, if you're going to treat us fairly, we're going to keep posting.

00:33:52.000 And now we've got like five and a half million followers and billions and billions of views.

00:33:57.000 And so what would the economic impact of such a TikTok ban be?

00:34:01.000 It can't be underscored, Charlie.

00:34:03.000 There are quite literally millions of American small businesses that have been built up thanks to TikTok alone in this post-COVID era that would essentially cease to exist almost instantaneously.

00:34:15.000 Some economists are projecting this could yield a massive unemployment rise for Donald Trump taking office a week from Monday and would be catastrophic to the American economy.

00:34:24.000 So that is certainly a concern.

00:34:26.000 But as for this idea of American data, you know, I still have a very hard time believing that the true intention behind this law was to protect Americans' data.

00:34:35.000 First and foremost, if this law is upheld by the Supreme Court, they are still allowed to hold onto nearly 200 million Americans' data after TikTok ceases to operate in the United States.

00:34:47.000 So that data is just already out there.

00:34:49.000 And we have countless documented examples of Meta selling your data to China, Russia, and the U.S. government.

00:34:55.000 alike.

00:34:56.000 Mark Zuckerberg admitted today on Joe Rogan that the Biden administration forced them to censor certain content and to provide American data to the federal government.

00:35:07.000 Airbnb has been known to sell your data to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:35:11.000 So I don't really think that's what's happening here.

00:35:14.000 When you see this rare bipartisan overwhelming support happening on Capitol Hill from people who can't even agree on what the definition of a woman is, the hair on the back of my neck begins to stand up asking what's really the impetus for this.

00:35:27.000 And I think so much of it has to do with the free conversations happening on the platform.

00:35:32.000 Final question here, Isabel.

00:35:33.000 If President Trump saves TikTok, what would that mean for our worldview and for him?

00:35:38.000 Would that be a big win?

00:35:39.000 Oh, it would be an endless win, Charlie, and I'm highly encouraging the president to do so, not just to protect this red wave conservative movement we're seeing happen with young people, but to continue encouraging conservative values to thrive across Western civilization.

00:35:54.000 This isn't just protecting free speech and the exchange of ideas for American citizens, but young people everywhere, and I'm incredibly excited to see where the movement goes.

00:36:03.000 Isabel.

00:36:03.000 Great work.

00:36:04.000 Thank you.

00:36:05.000 I know you have many followers on TikTok.

00:36:07.000 And I think President Trump benefited tremendously from TikTok.

00:36:11.000 I don't know if he would have won the youth vote.

00:36:12.000 And I do know this.

00:36:14.000 He would not have won the presidency without the youth vote.

00:36:16.000 Young people moved dramatically in his direction.

00:36:18.000 Boomers moved in Kamala Harris's direction. 0.91

00:36:21.000 Boomers were three or four points towards Kamala Harris.

00:36:24.000 Donald Trump would have lost the presidency.

00:36:26.000 You can make an argument.

00:36:27.000 It's a little bit of a reach, but it's there that President Trump might not have won the White House without TikTok.

00:36:33.000 There's an argument to be made there because we know that he would not have won it without younger voters.

00:36:38.000 Isabel, thank you so much.

00:36:39.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 11, 2025

Trump's Cabinet Will Change D.C. Forever

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