On this episode of No Advertisers, we talk with Kash Patel about Trump's new lawsuit against the DNC, John Durham's new lab in Ukraine, and James O'Keefe's new project in Ukraine. It's a comprehensive, legally focused episode that I think you're going to enjoy.
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00:01:50.000It's the most conclusive, comprehensive lawsuit.
00:01:53.000It's basically if you took the Russiagate investigation, which Devin and I ran and looked at it from a criminal perspective, what Donald Trump has done is said, okay, how do I encompass everyone from Comey, Clinton, Clapper, Brennan, and all the whole DNC crew on down?
00:02:07.000How do I get them civilly in federal court?
00:02:09.000And the way you do it is you utilize this thing called RICO, racketeering enforcement and corrupt organizations.
00:02:14.000We used to prosecute gangs under RICO lawsuits criminals.
00:02:18.000But what most people don't realize is RICO also has a civil function.
00:02:22.000So what he did was he took the RICO statute, which is permissible under by law, and said, these guys orchestrated the largest criminal enterprise in U.S. history, but I'm suing them on my civil side of the house for, I don't know, $75 million.
00:02:36.000The whole point, right, is to get to discovery.
00:03:11.000What he did was figure out a way with his team of lawyers to say, okay, how can we encompass everybody?
00:03:17.000And the only real way to do that is RICO.
00:03:19.000But is there a way to hold them accountable under that statute civilly?
00:03:23.000RICO permits that both monetarily with judgments north of $100 million, which he doesn't really care about.
00:03:29.000But if you find them at fault, the discovery process along the way is what's critical because they're going to have to come in and say, no, Mr. President, we did not violate the RICO statute.
00:03:41.000We did not enter into an organized conspiracy against you to prevent you from being president.
00:03:46.000And then while you were president, we did not go up and illegally surveil you.
00:03:50.000And oh, by the way, the great thing is, how are they going to get around that?
00:03:53.000There's an inspector general report that says exactly what they did.
00:03:57.000And that's what Donald Trump brought civilly.
00:03:59.000And there's also Department of Justice filings, the revocation of the FISA warrants against Carter Page.
00:04:04.000How are they going to get around that?
00:04:05.000These are judicial rulings in place and concrete memorandum under oath that they can't dodge.
00:04:11.000So what's the threshold you have to reach in the RICO civil case?
00:06:10.000These people, you can't get these people in one room together to agree on anything.
00:06:13.000Their lawyers are never going to agree on anything.
00:06:15.000So what you'll probably see is lower level defendants start copying to agreements, settlements outside just to pull themselves out of this thing.
00:06:23.000So there's 47, 48 people in this lawsuit.
00:08:14.000So, Bruce Orr was one of the senior most attorneys at the Department of Justice.
00:08:18.000His wife worked for the wife actually worked to collect and got paid by Fusion GPS to get dirt, false dirt on President Trump while Bruce Orr was the number four lawyer at the Justice Department.
00:08:29.000And then, when they shut down Steele, do you know what Bruce Orr did?
00:08:32.000He acted as a cutout for the FBI to source that information in.
00:08:36.000Then, Orbis Business Intelligence Limited?
00:09:19.000There's certain people you can't identify publicly yet when you bring these types of cases to protect certain people's identities or something.
00:09:25.000How can you sue someone without an identity?
00:09:27.000Because the guy, the plaintiff, knows who it is.
00:10:23.000Also, you have a show with the Epoch Times?
00:10:25.000Yeah, Cash's Corner once a week, every Friday night.
00:10:27.000And we talk national security defense intelligence.
00:10:29.000And right now, if you go to Truth Social and find me at Cash, there's a 14-day free subscription so you can binge watch the last four seasons.
00:11:12.000What's the truth of the biolab thing in Ukraine?
00:11:15.000Oh, I can guess because I haven't had access to that type of intelligence in a long time.
00:11:19.000So tell us, like, because I'm told it's Russian disinformation, or is it, I mean, was the United States actively involved in bio laboratories in Ukraine?
00:11:27.000So I don't know the answer to that definitively because I haven't looked at the Intel in over, what, a year and a half now, right?
00:11:32.000But back when I was deputy director of National Intel under Rick Rinnell, we would do these things called presidential daily briefings.
00:11:37.000We would take the most sensitive information and prioritize it and present it to the president because he would need to make decisions based on that along with his entire cabinet.
00:11:47.000If you recall, Rick and I, at the time, we couldn't say it publicly in late February of 2020, we went to the president and said the China virus came from the Wuhan lab, right?
00:11:57.000And every, and what did President Trump do?
00:12:00.000He was labeled a, you know, racist, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever.
00:12:04.000And then a year later, it finally came out that that's what happened, but the fake news media came in in the interim and said, you guys are lying.
00:12:11.000There's no way and leaked all sorts of classified information.
00:12:13.000The Russians are pros at disinformation.
00:12:16.000So if they wanted to seed some sort of narrative into this cycle, the war that they're in, to say U.S. is funding Ukraine biolabs, they could do it.
00:12:28.000And we wouldn't be able to figure it out with this administration's leadership because they're just not focused on things like countering those types of narratives.
00:12:39.000I mean, I just don't trust our current government when it comes to this.
00:12:41.000So I just don't, especially after Wuhan and gain of function research and all of that.
00:12:47.000So how should we look at the Russian-Ukrainian situation?
00:12:50.000It's hard to, I mean, I spent some time the other day because we haven't talked about it in a while just because there's so much other stuff going on here.
00:12:58.000And it's really kind of hard to make sense of really what's happening on the ground.
00:13:03.000It's almost impossible, literally, because you don't know what if you turn on to News Channel A versus News Channel B, two opposing storylines are coming out about the same topic.
00:13:13.000You're going to believe most Americans the political narrative they want to believe, which I think hurts American national security.
00:13:19.000It's the ultimate polication of our defense apparatus thanks to Joe Biden and the leadership he's put in place.
00:13:24.000So if you listen to shows like yours, you actually have a chance at getting to the truth because you guys don't care about the outside rhetoric.
00:13:32.000Your audience just wants to know what happened and how do I get it?
00:13:35.000And I think that's why a lot of the cable news networks are failing.
00:13:39.000So what really is happening on the ground?
00:13:42.000I mean, people say Ukraine is winning.
00:13:43.000Then Tulsi Gabbard says there's no way Ukraine can win this war.
00:13:46.000I mean, it's hard to kind of, you know, separate the, you know what I mean?
00:13:50.000Like, I mean, you have more expertise in this than I do.
00:13:52.000So look, as Trump's chief of staff for the Department of Defense, right, we ended a couple of wars very successfully.
00:13:58.000And launching a war is a whole another animal.
00:14:01.000And this is what President Putin has done.
00:14:03.000So in the middle of that process, it is almost impossible to get actual intel out, especially on a live 24-7 news cycle basis.
00:14:11.000What I do think is everybody underestimated the Ukraine's ability to defend themselves, including America.
00:14:20.000But what needs to happen to end this war is what needs to happen to end all conflicts.
00:14:24.000You need diplomatic engagements along with kinetic force operations, which is what Zelensky's doing to try to get the sides to agree to take in the knee, basically.
00:15:30.000So I was a terrorism prosecutor for a while and we did a lot of these types of national security high-profile cases that we had to keep certain things under wraps.
00:16:04.000So there's subpoenas that you got to go before you can get a grand jury subpoena.
00:16:08.000You can go to an Article 3 judge and get a subpoena for whatever homes and subscribers.
00:16:11.000So can't an FBI agent just print out a piece of paper as a subpoena, like I need your emails or something?
00:16:16.000So there's national security letters, right?
00:16:18.000The FBI has certain authorities under the law that don't need a requirement of going to a federal judge.
00:16:23.000They can just say this issue is of a national security concern.
00:16:26.000We want to go get the data, the call logs, the call text messages and all that stuff from companies X, Y, and Z while we investigate this matter.
00:16:34.000If they did that in James O'Keefe's case, again, comparing terrorism to James O'Keefe, right?
00:16:40.000Someone they just don't like who's an American civilian, would be outrageous and also, I think, unconstitutional.
00:16:47.000And so, I mean, then they also did it to Uber as well.
00:16:50.000I mean, what sort of evidence do you have to have to get that sort of a gag order?
00:16:54.000I mean, or did they just rubber stamp it, basically?
00:16:58.000You just need basically a good faith reason to say, if we don't have this, then we're going to jeopardize the investigation that we currently have and it could harm national security.
00:17:08.000Now, when I was doing that, that actually meant something.
00:17:10.000Even in terrorism cases, we would get shot down because the judge was like, no, you didn't meet the threshold.
00:17:15.000So I can't imagine in a case like James O'Keefe or anyone else that the FBI is looking at because they don't like what he's doing professionally.
00:18:35.000And I worked with Bill Barr, you know, at multiple different locations when I was running the intelligence community or back to the White House running counterterrorism or helping Johnny Rack with the director of national intelligence, who he referenced in this case.
00:18:47.000The number one law enforcement officer on planet Earth is the attorney general.
00:18:50.000Is he literally going around on a book tour and saying, I didn't really know what was going on?
00:19:04.000He said he thought President Trump's idea to make me the deputy director of the FBI showed a detachment from reality because I didn't have the experience, except the fact that he became attorney general at 37.
00:19:37.000And now he's going around doing this book tour on every fake news media channel, including, and then unfortunately, Fox News is giving him airtime.
00:19:44.000Instead, when we were working on matters like this, what should have happened is Bill Barr should have taken a more proactive approach on a Hunter Biden laptop, on a Russia Gate investigation.
00:19:55.000We had to force these matters into the Department of Justice and show them over and over and over again before he would act.
00:21:16.000Chris Christie gave us Chris Ray as FBI director.
00:21:20.000You know, we got Rod Rosenstein from the crew of rhinos out there that he's the worst deputy attorney general and basically acting attorney general.
00:21:30.000Those are guys that should never have even been on the list, but they were because these political powerhouses got their hands into the presidential.
00:21:38.000So you think second term, one of the things has to be kind of a promise that Trump is going to make different personnel choices.
00:21:47.000And I guarantee you, if Trump was sitting right here, he would agree with us.
00:21:50.000I mean, Mark Milley, he has nothing but bad things to say about him.
00:21:56.000I suppose that if there is a second term, one of the concerns his voters are going to have, the only concern I think they'll have is not, are you going to do what you say you're going to do, but are you going to put the people in place to be able to do what you say you're going to do?
00:22:10.000And I believe that that's in process and that's going.
00:22:12.000And then not only do you build the book now of who we're going to put in the cabinet and deputies and undersecretaries, but then you make announcements on the campaign trail.
00:22:20.000If I win, this person's going to be head of FBI.
00:23:13.000Just tell us your thoughts on where this all kind of stands right now.
00:23:17.000So from my best understanding, there is an open, active criminal investigation by a United States attorney in the Department of Justice against this.
00:23:24.000Now, what should have happened is when the New York Post and all these other companies broke the story as true and accurate, there should have been an immediate exploitation of that entire laptop and its contents by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
00:23:37.000What happened was the continued politicization of the national security apparatus.
00:24:55.000If I'm reading the little print media that I still read that's accurate and credible, it looks like he's going to get some form of indictment.
00:25:05.000How is this administration going to execute that?
00:25:07.000What, this attorney general that was appointed by his father is going to go to the White House and say, I'm indicting your son criminally.
00:25:12.000And then his dad's going to go, I'm going to pardon him.
00:25:15.000Like, and do we have any confidence that an actual special counsel can be appointed to meet out this, which should have been done a long time ago?
00:25:21.000What is this attorney general, Merrick Garland, by the way, remind you, going to pick someone to unilaterally prosecute Hunter Biden?
00:26:20.000When you take out those, the AG, the DAG, the Associate Deputy Attorney Generals, and you put in place the 10 to 12 people to run that department the way it should be.
00:26:53.000I want to ask you about Katanji Brown Jackson.
00:26:57.000Katanji Brown Jackson looks like she's going to be confirmed because Joe Manchin, who represents West Virginia, says that she embodies West Virginia values.
00:27:05.000I did not know leniency for child pedophiles, predators, and the inability to know when life begins, what the equal protection clause is, and what is a woman is a West Virginia value.
00:27:15.000But then again, I'm not from Morgantown.
00:27:18.000Cash, you think that it could have been worse?
00:27:38.000He had the gravitas over the decades to go to other Supreme Court justices and pull the court to the left with his actual intellect and decisive decision-making and ability to negotiate.
00:27:50.000Katanji Brown Jackson, in comparison, does not have that gravitas.
00:28:26.000I mean, this probably just doesn't, maybe you're used to just sealing radical judges because for me, this has just kind of been a learning experience.
00:28:33.000Like, wow, this is where our country's at.
00:29:23.000So, yeah, I suppose this kind of opens up this whole question here for Republicans that I think is really important, which is how many of them are going to vote for Katanji Brown Jackson?
00:30:47.000Then take power back and get off of it and come over to truth.
00:30:50.000And I know that that's a hard step, but if I can get one of those companies like a Babylon B or a Federalist to come over, then I think the waterfall, the avalanche will come behind it.