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00:01:15.000Raheem Kassam is with us, and he has some new polling to report on, which is around some of the theme of last hour, which is what are we doing here in this primary?
00:01:24.000The billion-dollar blockade, the billion-dollar barricade that is looming, that is building.
00:01:30.000I think it's going to injure our chances to win in the general election.
00:01:33.000Donald Trump's going to get through it.
00:01:52.000And I totally agree with you, by the way, and agree with the premise of the conversation, which we really do need to be having at this point in time.
00:01:59.000And the reason I think that it needs to be had is: look, at the end of last year, the tail end of last year, after the midterm elections, a lot of people said, okay, well, look, you know, a primary might be healthy for the Republican Party.
00:02:12.000A lot of animosity against the idea of, you know, quote unquote, a coronation, which I understand for some reason has negative connotations in this country.
00:02:24.000I think we've seen who the backers are against Trump here, the donor class, the GOP establishment class.
00:02:31.000I think we've seen what the candidates who were supposed to be able to run away with this the second they got into this race have actually done with that airtime and that power, and the answer is not an awful lot.
00:02:43.000And I think what a lot of people now are saying is, look, we understand that there's 200 million dollars set aside to try and tear down Donald Trump before he even gets to the general election.
00:02:56.000Minimum against Democrat, yeah, keep going, but I think it's gonna be more.
00:03:00.000Yeah, oh yeah, I'm sure it's more than that.
00:03:02.000But I think most people kind of realize now that hey, you got Mike Pence jumping in, you got Tim Scott jumping in, you got Chris Christie cannonballing in, and I think people are just like yeah, we're done with this.
00:03:16.000So let's bear that out in the data right.
00:03:19.000Rasmus AND Reports did an interesting study in February and I pay very close attention to these things, so that when I saw they had a new one coming out this month, I immediately understood, okay, let's compare and contrast the two different polls.
00:03:32.000Same methodology, same question, same candidates.
00:03:35.000It's Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, and in February Ron DeSantis had 32% polling amongst likely Republican voters in this poll.
00:03:49.000Today, he stands at 30%, which means that after the injection of cash, getting up on the stage, touring around Iowa, Twitter spaces glitched out or not, and so on and so forth.
00:04:02.000All of the fanfare, he's actually sunk in the polls.
00:04:06.000Contrast that with Donald Trump, who actually three months ago in the same poll was polling at 45%, is now up to 58%.
00:04:16.000That is a massive leap in a very short period of time.
00:04:20.000I think people are ready to declare this one over.
00:04:23.000And but it's over with the voters, but it's not over with the donors, right, Raheem?
00:04:30.000Let's game this out because my hypothesis, which could be incorrect, but I've been chatting with a good amount of people, and some of them still take my calls, is you got Nikki Haley, you got Tim Scott, you got Asa Hutchinson, you got Chris Christie, you got Mike Pence, Doug Bergham, and more.
00:04:44.000It seems that they might be running against one another, but I actually think they're disparate parts of the same sort of long-ditch, hail Mary attempt effort, which is maybe we can throw as much as we can at Trump, see which one of the kind of same bland vanilla flavors might begin to resonate, and then just relentlessly pummel Donald Trump with money in the primary.
00:05:09.000I think that some people underestimate the personal side of this.
00:05:42.000He says in the Washington Post, Republican governor, beating Trump is more important.
00:05:47.000Play cut 25 of the very high octave governor of New Hampshire.
00:05:51.000We've taken the last six months to really kind of look at things where everything is, and I've made the decision not to run for president on the Republican ticket in 2024.
00:05:58.000And obviously, a lot goes into that decision, but it's been quite an adventure, but not the end of the adventure by any means.
00:06:10.000Not exactly somebody that is used to projecting power and dominance, I think.
00:06:15.000And that analogy works with the entire rest of the field as well.
00:06:19.000I think what they really want to do is all be able to stand up on a stage with Donald Trump and create kind of like a pylon, right?
00:06:27.000Which is why I think on balance, it doesn't make any sense for Trump to be on a debate stage with all of these two percenters and three percenters because it elevates their attacks to a position that he doesn't need to justify when he's polling at circus 60 percent amongst likely Republican voters.
00:06:45.000Yes, it's a redux of 2016, and it's not even particularly very good redux of 2016.
00:06:52.000It's like we've seen this movie before, but now they've cast like some other characters, and it's kind of like one of these woke Hollywood reboots.
00:07:00.000Everybody's seen it, nobody wants to watch it take place again.
00:07:03.000And listen, again, I understand that there is a world in which a lot of people are sort of thinking, yeah, but do you really just want to hand it over to one guy again?
00:07:11.000And then you have to remind yourself, yeah, but wait a minute, this guy is term-limited out.
00:07:15.000He has one more chance to swing the bat at the establishment.
00:07:18.000And then Republican voters can have the pick of the field of whomever they want.
00:07:22.000By the way, whomever they want, that will then, hopefully by then, have developed an apparatus and a style of campaigning that doesn't make them look kind of cringe and embarrassing when they're out on the campaign trail.
00:07:33.000It's very clear there are people in this race who are simply not ready to be in this race.
00:07:37.000They might be ready in four years, but they certainly show every day that they're not ready to be in this race.
00:07:41.000So look, it's about rationality when it comes down to it.
00:07:46.000It's about, do you want the Republican Party tear itself to bits over this primary season and limp and limp into the general, or would you like your candidate to be strong, backed by the entire party, and have all the resources available to him when he stands up on that stage against Joe Biden?
00:08:03.000I can't imagine rational thinkers thinking any other way.
00:08:07.000So you mentioned something that I'm not yet decided on, and I totally see it both ways.
00:08:53.000We know who sets the rules for these debates.
00:08:55.000You know full well that they're going to try and lock Donald Trump into a situation where if he stands on the stage and he talks over a certain amount of time, his mic will be cut off, right?
00:09:05.000Or if somebody says something about him and he doesn't get to respond and he tries, his mic will be cut off.
00:09:10.000And I think in that world, when you have this presidential debates commission and all of these rules and the RNC going along with what the establishment wants a debate to look like, I don't think you can do it.
00:09:21.000I think you could just intermediate that and do something with independent news outlets if the other candidates are willing to do it and have it much more of a free-for-all, which, by the way, I think most Americans would prefer a more royal rumble approach to the debates.
00:09:37.000But I don't think you're going to get that from CNN.
00:09:40.000I don't think you're going to get that from Fox.
00:09:42.000I don't think they're going to offer him the platform that you would expect him to have.
00:09:46.000I want to hear from our very in-tune, smart, well-read audience.
00:09:49.000Email us freedom at charliekirk.com because even with the rigged, though, right?
00:09:53.000Even with all the mic cuts and everything, Donald Trump, in contrast to Chris Christie, just visually, you say, all right, forget it.
00:10:03.000Like, I mean, this whole thing is just forget it, right?
00:10:07.000I mean, you have Donald Trump just who is a powerful presence.
00:10:12.000And again, television is a visual media.
00:10:16.000This is what people understand about Trump, is that 80 to 90% of the appeal of Trump is the posture, the magnanimity, the alpha male moves, the this guy is going to make decisive decisions.
00:10:29.000And then, yes, part of it is what he's saying, but it is the ethos of his presence that resonates with people.
00:10:38.000Yeah, I mean, 40 to 50 years on television and looking at ratings, you get pretty good at knowing what draws people in and keeps their attention.
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00:11:52.000Raheem, we are receiving hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails.
00:12:30.000But the future of your country cannot be turned simply into a televised blood sport for the sake of it, right?
00:12:36.000If there is no political, if there is no strategic imperative behind him standing on a debate stage with people who are 50, 55 points below him in the polls, then there isn't an imperative at all beyond the reality TV elements of it.
00:12:55.000And I think, look, I sympathize greatly with the people who are just like, no, yeah, get up there, crush them.
00:13:00.000It's like, firstly, ostensibly, they're within the same party, right?
00:13:05.000And you should avoid crushing the people within your own party as much as humanly possible or on your own side as much as humanly possible.
00:13:13.000The second part of that is it's like Donald Trump is going to be able to command so many stages, podcasts, networks, independent media, corporate media, all across the board.
00:13:26.000And I think to reduce him down to just standing on a couple of debate stages or maybe even one debate stage, one hour, one night, answer me this question.
00:13:35.000How many people watch a Republican primary debate with Donald Trump on it versus how many people tune in if Donald Trump's not on it?
00:13:43.000And the idea that you elevate your opponents by giving them the gravity of your presence, I think is campaign malpractice.
00:14:37.000He said, I'm done with this whole thing.
00:14:38.000I'm going to do a veterans rally and you guys can do this.
00:14:41.000And it will also make that entire debate schedule largely irrelevant if he doesn't do it.
00:14:47.000It's just going to kind of be a sideshow, especially if Donald Trump does, I don't know, a town hall with Steve Bannon and Raheem and Jack Pesobic and all of us.
00:14:56.000Imagine that on Real America's Voice while there's a debate going on.
00:15:00.000It would be interesting to see what would get more numbers.
00:15:04.000And so we enter in another question I want to ask you here then, Raheem, is what the current coup that is likely being launched against Donald Trump, because Donald Trump's going to win the nomination.
00:16:11.000He's basically saying, please don't vote for Donald Trump because he might prosecute me for the things that I've done wrong.
00:16:15.000And I don't think most Americans will find that to be a compelling case.
00:16:19.000I think the other part of that that's interesting is that he's basically signaling there that they will do anything they can, including all of the dirty tactics we've seen before in order to stop this man becoming the president.
00:16:30.000And a final note, I think there's some level of people out there, some percentage of people out there that are worried that Trump won't get asked the hard questions about Fauci and the vaccines and all of this stuff.
00:16:40.000And I pledge to your audience this, that if I'm in front of Donald Trump and I'm able to interview him during this campaign, we will ask those tough questions.
00:16:46.000We're just not going to ask them like Caitlin Collins in a catty gotcha moment.
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00:18:26.000Well, I'm not sure anybody knows 100% because exactly what you said, but people are starting to cover the story that Tesla has a stroke, some really life-altering things have happened.
00:18:40.000I think in the past 18 months or so, I bet you most people watching or listening to your show right now know someone personally who has had some type of major physical problem, if not death, since all those vaccines rolled out.
00:18:56.000Everybody pretty much knows somebody, including me.
00:19:01.000There are singers in the country music world that are no longer touring because of issues that they're having.
00:19:06.000And so, yeah, when you put that out, I thought, you know, I can't 100% verify what's going on with Jamie Fox.
00:19:12.000I don't know that anybody can other than him and his family and his doctors.
00:19:16.000However, it just rings that bell again in all of our consciousness that something terrible has rolled out our country and a lot of people are suffering because of it.
00:19:26.000Yeah, and so public reports, there's a article that we tweeted out that says a close, close, a source close to Jamie Foxx says that he has gone blind and has serious issues because of the mRNA shot.
00:19:42.000You responded and you said, well, why doesn't he just sue Pfizer if that's the case?
00:19:46.000But they actually have immunity, don't they, John?
00:19:49.000Yes, they do have immunity and they didn't have to get a shot to get it.
00:20:46.000What an impossible position that was for him.
00:20:49.000But now here we all sit dealing with the ramifications of this.
00:20:53.000And listen, there's people that I've been friends with 20 years that are used to pulling 100 plus concerts a year that can't sing three or four songs in a row at this point because they have myocarditis, because their blood pressure is through the roof, because they can't breathe.
00:21:09.000I mean, 100 different things going on.
00:21:11.000And that is extrapolated throughout the entire country right now.
00:21:14.000And I think people are so mad and really furious at this point and aggravated as to, well, who's going to hold these people accountable?
00:21:27.000I mean, Charlie, you tell me, what would the crime be called if you unleash something on the general public that may kill potentially millions of people?
00:21:36.000Is there a name for a crime like that?
00:21:44.000You're not allowed to even question it.
00:21:46.000In fact, to give you an idea of how totalitarian social media has become on this topic, so one of our team members, Daisy, had a great idea because we wanted to post about the Jamie Foxx thing, but we knew we were going to get fact-checked on Instagram, even though it was a third-party article.
00:22:00.000So we put up the article and we black out the part where it says, Jamie Foxx is blind in this because of boom, and we black it out.
00:22:12.000We don't even say the thing, but we have a blackout thing and they say, oh, no, no, independent fact-checkers say that Jamie Foxx is not damaged because of the mRNA shot, but it's not just him.
00:22:24.000Nancy Mace, can you get the clip, Ryan, of Nancy Mace?
00:22:27.000Nancy Mace, who's a very moderate congresswoman from South Carolina, she said that she has permanent health damage because of the vaccine.
00:22:34.000One of the pussycat doll members shared her vaccine injury story.
00:22:37.000I was severely injured by the Moderna vaccine.
00:22:40.000Also, one of the great musicians and one of the great guitarists, Eric Clapton, same exact thing.
00:22:49.000We see that there's been something very wrong, and they've come after all of us with great retaliation, censorship, smearing, and slander.
00:22:58.000And it's really a tragedy because we're now at this place where, you know, some people are calling it crimes against humanity or all these different sorts of things.
00:23:10.000It's a mystery why our government has been actively involved in promoting an mRNA shot that did not do what they said it was going to do and obviously had side effects.
00:23:19.000John, why are so few people willing to speak out against this?
00:23:22.000People don't like being called bad names.
00:23:24.000People don't like being shoved around.
00:23:27.000And we got to remember whose shoulders we stand on.
00:23:30.000You know, if the attitude that a lot of Americans have today had been the pervasive attitude of the founding fathers, Charlie, we would have never had in the first place to even be fighting for.
00:23:42.000I mean, back in the day when they signed the Declaration of Independence, that was their death warrant with the British Empire.
00:23:47.000They knew they were going to die if they ever got caught for signing that document, but they signed it anyway.
00:23:52.000So here we are in 2023, and people are too afraid to say what the truth is because they're going to get kicked off of Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, or somebody at work is going to call them a bad name or whatever.
00:24:04.000I mean, we have to remember who we are and where we came from.
00:24:07.000Listen, when you mandate something that's experimental, an experimental medication or procedure, you mandate that.
00:24:16.000There's a little something people can read called the Nuremberg Code.
00:24:20.000And you go back to the Nuremberg Code and it specifically states you are not allowed to coerce, force, or in any other matter make another human being undergo an experimental medical treatment or situation.
00:24:34.000Yet, we've seen all throughout our country and all around the world the mandates that have come down.
00:24:39.000I mean, I was just doing some bottle signing down in Florida with my whiskey brand.
00:24:44.000I was down there signing bottles, and there were people coming through, military people, former cops, they're former because they couldn't keep their jobs.
00:24:53.000All kinds of people, school teachers, doctors through my line that lost their jobs because they wouldn't take it.
00:25:23.000The media doesn't want this because they're all purchased by the pharmaceutical companies, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson, and Johnson.
00:25:29.000By the way, several of people that I'm sure in the audience, podcasters and conservative people in media, they're bought by the pharmaceutical companies, PlayCut 26.
00:25:56.000Here's a moderate congresswoman, and media just kind of shrugs their shoulders.
00:26:00.000Yeah, it's perfectly normal, safe, and effective.
00:26:03.000Here's the original source of the Jamie Foxx situation: PlayCut 19, please.
00:26:07.000I had somebody in the room who let me know that Jamie had a blood clot in his brain after he got the shot.
00:26:17.000He did not want the shot, but the movie he was on, he was pressured to get it.
00:26:22.000What I found out from the man in the room was that the blood clot in the brain caused him at that point to be partially paralyzed and blind.
00:26:32.000There's a great shroud of secrecy around Jamie Foxx.
00:26:51.000There are so many people that are culpable for this, not just the people that created it, but people that went out and mandated it.
00:27:00.000And now we have this rolling across our country.
00:27:03.000Listen, this came into the country music world in a big way, too.
00:27:05.000There were all kinds, some of your favorite country singers, I'll just leave it at that, were firing bus drivers, musicians that they had had for 15, 20 years.
00:27:14.000I mean, they refused to take this vaccine.
00:29:23.000And so they come up with these multi-million dollar ideas and campaigns and they roll them out and the customers decide who wins and who loses.
00:29:31.000I can tell you with the Bud Light thing and my bar, it was the number one selling beer that we had since 2018 when I opened the place up.
00:29:38.000And we sell a lot of beer down here in Nashville.
00:29:40.000Well, five or six days after the Bud Light story broke, I just told my manager, keep track of how much Bud Light are we selling.
00:30:29.000And to me, cancel culture is when a company or a platform, somebody way above your head that controls the situation just decides to whack you.
00:30:45.000It's different, though, when millions of customers all decide to stop spending their money on something.
00:30:51.000You know, not one person's bank account is going to hurt Bud Light or Target or anybody else, but millions of people that feel that way, that's where the impact is coming from.
00:31:00.000There is a new article out in The Economist.
00:31:02.000Conservative Americans are building a parallel economy.
00:31:06.000It's obviously written by somebody who's not American because why would you say conservative Americans?
00:31:10.000It's kind of a strange way to word it.
00:31:12.000But it talks about Public Square, which we're big fans of, Patriot Mobile, amongst many other new and exciting options and parallel economy ventures we're seeing happen in a big way.
00:31:26.000John, I finally start to see alternatives start to rise up.
00:31:29.000We have Rumble to go up against YouTube, Public Square now to go up against Yelp.
00:31:34.000We have, I mean, Patriot Mobile to go up against Woke Wireless.
00:32:24.000I mean, it's pretty pathetic that we have to say something like that and people go, well, I'm going to go there.
00:32:29.000You would think that's a default position, but no, it's not.
00:32:32.000And so, yes, I think a parallel economy, other options for people to go to when they find themselves being completely corralled by the current system.