The Charlie Kirk Show - Trump Vs. The World: A Battle for Truth and the Future of America

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00:00:08.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:09.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:12.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:15.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:18.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:19.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:20.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:22.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

00:00:27.000 Turning point USA.

00:00:29.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:37.000 That's why we are here.

00:00:41.000 It's been a very interesting couple weeks, to say the least.

00:00:44.000 A couple days ago in Phoenix, Arizona, we hosted the President United States for a very big rally.

00:00:50.000 We were very pleased to put out.

00:00:51.000 Thank you.

00:00:52.000 The media might not have told you about it, but we had 3,300 students from all across the American Southwest come to Phoenix.

00:01:00.000 And it was actually pretty incredible because that was 3,300 more people than would have showed up to a Joe Biden rally.

00:01:07.000 So I think he had like four people show up to the last socially distanced, whatever that was.

00:01:14.000 But it was incredible to see because in the middle, it was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do.

00:01:18.000 And we've done some pretty interesting things at turning point these last couple of years.

00:01:23.000 But in the midst of what we're going on, go through in the country, going through the country right now, there was huge backlash from the city council.

00:01:30.000 The mayor was trying to shut it down.

00:01:32.000 Insurance companies were trying to drop us from offering insurance and all that.

00:01:37.000 But we still hosted it.

00:01:38.000 And the media was, well, is anyone going to show up?

00:01:41.000 Is anyone going to rally and all that stuff?

00:01:45.000 And boy, did we prove a lot of people wrong?

00:01:48.000 It was really something.

00:01:49.000 And I think we helped play a role and turn the media there at a turning point, no punch intended, right?

00:01:55.000 But I do want to talk about a couple things today.

00:01:56.000 I mean, I am a Bible-believing Christian, so it is awesome to be here.

00:02:01.000 I speak at churches wherever I'm invited.

00:02:04.000 And I spoke at Pastor Rob McCoy's church, Calvary Chapel, Thousand Oaks in California.

00:02:09.000 He's a total superstar.

00:02:11.000 He was the only pastor in the entire Southern California region to stay open on Easter and got threatened with arrest and all that.

00:02:18.000 He's like, we're not closing.

00:02:19.000 He's like, just come on in.

00:02:21.000 Come arrest me.

00:02:22.000 And it was pretty awesome to see.

00:02:24.000 And of course, the police came after him than they would of anyone actually burning down American cities.

00:02:29.000 Just kind of goes to show the priorities of our current law enforcement structure.

00:02:35.000 It's incredible when you have pastors that are being arrested, pastors that are being targeted.

00:02:39.000 Marijuana shops remained open all throughout California, by the way.

00:02:42.000 Liquor stores remained open.

00:02:44.000 And you have what happened in this last week.

00:02:47.000 NASCAR driver says he found a noose in his garage.

00:02:50.000 And you have 15 FBI agents go there within like a moment's notice, right, to go invest.

00:02:54.000 15.

00:02:55.000 Think about how many people that is.

00:02:56.000 I mean, that's incredible.

00:02:57.000 Again, that's 15 more people than what showed up to a Joe Biden rally.

00:03:01.000 And 15 people like that.

00:03:04.000 And they find out that it wasn't really a noose.

00:03:05.000 It was a garage door opener.

00:03:06.000 And we can't even arrest the people that are taking down our statues and burning down our country.

00:03:10.000 So if you are like me, you feel like you're losing your country.

00:03:14.000 And if you feel that way, then you're correct.

00:03:17.000 And I want to kind of walk you through what is happening culturally in our country.

00:03:21.000 I'm not even going to get too much into the politics.

00:03:23.000 I know I've already shared a couple fun jokes and stuff.

00:03:26.000 But what's happening politically in our country right now is just an after effect.

00:03:29.000 There's something much deeper.

00:03:31.000 It is spiritual.

00:03:32.000 It is cultural of what's happening.

00:03:34.000 And to be perfectly honest with you, organizations that call themselves churches are very involved in what's happening right now in America.

00:03:42.000 And it's very disappointing to see how some of the biggest churches across the country, within a moment's notice, put their entire congregation and the people that were there entrusted towards what I believe to be one of the most disingenuous, divisive, destructive political movements in American history of what we're seeing right now.

00:04:06.000 And so first we had the virus and the lockdowns, which played a huge toll on every single American.

00:04:11.000 Almost no one was unaffected unless you owned Clorox, because they did great. 0.80

00:04:15.000 I mean, besides them, you know, Clorox or hand sanitizer companies had the greatest year ever, or if you make masks, and if you do, you're probably Chinese, made. 0.99

00:04:24.000 But besides that, it's just, you know, it's just a tough time. 0.99

00:04:27.000 I get it.

00:04:28.000 And so we had the virus and the lockdowns, and we as Christians generally just obeyed the rules.

00:04:33.000 We said, okay, we're not going to, you know, civilly disobey.

00:04:36.000 We're going to do things right.

00:04:37.000 We're going to go to Zoom.

00:04:38.000 We're going to do all that.

00:04:39.000 And it was a very interesting calculation that happened here because as they locked up Christians, we weren't getting ecclesia, what it says in the Bible, which means gathering of believers.

00:04:50.000 And the Bible tells us very specifically, do not forsake the fellowship of believers.

00:04:56.000 And why I love the whole Zoom Skype thing, if you are in, you know, if you are in the category of potentially, you know, getting harmed by the positive technological innovation, I think that the way the church just totally said, we're not, you know, we're going to just forsake that for months, I think that was generally, you know, a mistake.

00:05:15.000 And so then people are not getting their moral connection every week.

00:05:19.000 And then something happens that didn't divide.

00:05:21.000 That was what was so perplexing is that you had a Minnesota police officer do something that no one supported.

00:05:27.000 Even police officers said that was an improper way to go about it.

00:05:30.000 And instantaneously, the media says we're divided over this.

00:05:33.000 And I was like, well, who's divided?

00:05:34.000 What are you talking about?

00:05:35.000 Like, we all agree that this is not good.

00:05:37.000 Shouldn't have happened.

00:05:38.000 But they're like, oh, yeah, this is really going to stoke racial tensions.

00:05:41.000 It's like, well, first of all, how do we even, this is a bad police officer against this citizen.

00:05:46.000 Like, you guys are actually imposing racial tensions on this situation.

00:05:50.000 Like, this is more about abuse of power and much less against white people and black people.

00:05:55.000 And the hyperracialization of it was very, very concerning how they did it.

00:05:59.000 And then in the last couple weeks, you saw complete and total silence from most people in the conservative Republican circles.

00:06:06.000 I was told I had to shut up and stop talking because I was a Christian white male, so I've been louder than ever at great expense to all of our well-being, but it's whatever.

00:06:16.000 That's why I do what I do, right?

00:06:18.000 And I just made a very, I believe, Western argument, a pro-Christian argument, that we're all made in the image of God.

00:06:25.000 Do not characterize people on immutable characteristics.

00:06:28.000 Don't judge someone because they're black or because they're white.

00:06:30.000 Judge people based on their character and their worldview and what they do. 0.51

00:06:35.000 And so this is an argument original sin.

00:06:39.000 So it's like, very simple.

00:06:40.000 Are human beings flawed or not flawed by nature?

00:06:43.000 That's what's happening.

00:06:45.000 Because the left, they say, well, all these bad things are happening because of bad police.

00:06:49.000 Hold on a second.

00:06:51.000 Bad things are going to happen even if you remove the police at all.

00:06:54.000 Just look at chaz, right?

00:06:56.000 So you remove the police, you remove all business, you remove private property, and someone gets killed within like six days, tragically. 0.92

00:07:05.000 More rapes than ever, more sexual assault, all these horrible things.

00:07:07.000 Like, hold on a second.

00:07:08.000 I'd like to get rid of all these things.

00:07:09.000 Things are going to be harmonious and wonderful and terrific.

00:07:12.000 Of course not.

00:07:12.000 We know that's the silliest thing that you could possibly believe because we have a book that tells us that.

00:07:18.000 And we also have observational evidence to show that in human behavior, that human beings are flawed by nature.

00:07:26.000 In fact, we believe in some form, and I'm not a Calvinist, but some form of the depravity of sin, like the depravity of man, like we're so irredeemable that we need Christ to be able to save us, right? 0.94

00:07:37.000 And that's all Christians will believe some form of that.

00:07:41.000 And so, but the left doesn't believe that.

00:07:43.000 The left believes in a Rousseauian idea.

00:07:46.000 And if you don't know who Rousseau is, I encourage you to check it out because he wasn't the first one to articulate this, but he was probably the most popular.

00:07:54.000 He said, no, no, no, human beings are actually perfect.

00:07:59.000 This is what they teach our kids, by the way, in our schools, just so you know.

00:08:02.000 The human beings are not flawed by nature.

00:08:05.000 The human beings are corrupted by all the forces that we created around them.

00:08:11.000 And if we actually just put them in a state of nature, that we would just be wonderful and harmonious and terrific.

00:08:18.000 And yeah, exactly.

00:08:20.000 It's worthy of mockery. 0.98

00:08:21.000 But we have an entire political party that's advancing this ridiculous idea now. 0.91

00:08:24.000 And then you have churches that are agreeing and signing up to this.

00:08:27.000 You know, it's really interesting.

00:08:28.000 And I think this is a worthy goal that I saw a car parked out right in front of Citibrew just about an hour ago.

00:08:35.000 And I think it's a worthy goal that this person had painted on their car.

00:08:38.000 They said, end the racism.

00:08:40.000 I'm totally on board for that.

00:08:41.000 What they're really saying is to end sin.

00:08:43.000 That's really what they're saying, right?

00:08:45.000 And so those are Christians know that that's not going to happen. 0.95

00:08:48.000 So it would be more probably a better way to word it is like, let's try to lessen it.

00:08:53.000 Let's try to create better people.

00:08:55.000 Let's try to bring people to Christ, which is the ultimate truth.

00:08:58.000 But this idea that we can eradicate evil in the world, that us human beings that are evil to eradicate evil, that's making you God is really what it is.

00:09:06.000 This is a quasi-messianic complex that people get in the world right now.

00:09:11.000 And so what you see, what you've seen this happen now is that the lack of believers, and there's some great ones that are out there, but there's just not enough.

00:09:20.000 And the lack of people standing for truth right now, and I do want to talk about truth because it's such an important point that we as Christians don't always dive deeper into what that actually means.

00:09:30.000 Because we say it and we just kind of move on, and I want to talk about that.

00:09:33.000 Is if you don't confront a bad idea immediately, it becomes like really popular really quickly.

00:09:43.000 So if you don't say, this is a lie, for example, when they say America is a racist country, our elected officials should have linked arms.

00:09:51.000 They said, we are the most decent, benevolent, generous, charitable, open-minded country in the history of the world.

00:09:57.000 We're the most unraced country in the history of the world.

00:10:00.000 And that's the truth.

00:10:02.000 No other country has brought in so many people from different backgrounds or different languages and been able to operate generally cohesively and harmoniously as the United States of America.

00:10:11.000 It's never happened before.

00:10:12.000 And here's the greatest argument to prove that. 0.81

00:10:16.000 If we were such an indecent racist country, why did 2 million people voluntarily from Africa since the 1970s come to America? 1.00

00:10:23.000 Legal African immigrants.

00:10:25.000 Why have more people come here legally from Africa than came from the slave trade?

00:10:28.000 Well, it's because we're actually a generally decent country.

00:10:31.000 Now, of course, there's bitter, spiteful people that harbor the sin of racism, of which it is a sin.

00:10:36.000 It is, and it's a repugnant sin.

00:10:38.000 However, that is not the only sin that exists in the world.

00:10:41.000 If we convinced ourselves that's the only sin, how about the sin of you think you're God?

00:10:47.000 Like, that's actually one of the original sins that you're not supposed to cross when all of a sudden you think you can design society to get rid of everything.

00:10:54.000 I think that took one commandment in the uploaded moral app that Moses was given from God, right?

00:11:00.000 And what's so incredible is that the hyperfixation on this in our country has now brought us into a more racist society.

00:11:07.000 Where now you can't walk the streets in New York and you're just in New York without people coming up to you and potentially challenging you because you're a white person, say, take a knee because you're white and apologize for things that happened before you. 0.63

00:11:18.000 It's happening right now in our country, where now we have black-only dormitories on hundreds of campuses across the country re-segregating our kids. 0.75

00:11:26.000 Where we're not judging people on the content of their character or their worldview. 0.61

00:11:29.000 We're not judging them on their skin color. 0.82

00:11:31.000 It's hyper-racialization.

00:11:32.000 It's multi-thousand-year digression.

00:11:35.000 And then you have people say, well, don't you understand?

00:11:38.000 You have white privilege.

00:11:39.000 And this really bothers me because I've had an opportunity to travel across this state and across many states that have predominant white populations.

00:11:47.000 And when I go and I see the opioid clinics and I see the communities that have been suffering because of jobs that were eliminated because of the war on coal or the war on manufacturing, and I say to myself, did they use that white privilege card?

00:12:02.000 And if still, when?

00:12:04.000 I mean, human suffering happens to every single community inevitably.

00:12:08.000 And this idea that just because of the color of your skin, you have more privilege in America, first of all, it's statistically untrue.

00:12:12.000 Second of all, it's unbelievably divisive.

00:12:14.000 It's just ridiculously divisive.

00:12:16.000 Because then all of a sudden you're going to start categorizing people and it's anti-biblical.

00:12:21.000 I mean, Jesus tells us, Paul tells us in Galatians 3.28, neither slave nor Jew, you're all free under Christ.

00:12:28.000 And basically the idea of the West, what we have all participated in, growing up in, and now it's all been put in jeopardy, just so you understand.

00:12:35.000 We're entering a country that is so tribalistic, we're going back to like the 400s.

00:12:41.000 And it's that bad.

00:12:42.000 It's happening in our university system and in our public school system, where now it's like, no, no, no, I understand that this whole idea of you as an individual, what's your skin color?

00:12:50.000 And then the space not skin color, you have to either apologize, you have to repent, or you have to atone for that.

00:12:56.000 And that is not an overgeneralization.

00:13:00.000 It's happening on university campuses and high school campuses all across the country.

00:13:04.000 And so, and then this is where the church has to come in, because the church has to recognize that, first of all, they're coming for you now and they're coming for you next.

00:13:12.000 The left has total contempt for the American church.

00:13:15.000 In fact, one of the leading Black Lives Matter activists by the name of Sean King says that we should take down statues of Jesus Christ if the melanin skin was not perfectly correlated with that of someone from Judea and Samaria.

00:13:28.000 Right?

00:13:28.000 So he's like, just take down all the statues of what he calls white Jesus.

00:13:31.000 That's a completely stupid term, white Jesus, because you go all across the world. 0.99

00:13:36.000 You can go to Peru, you can go to Colombia, you go to China. 0.99

00:13:39.000 Any Christian community actually makes the image of Christ look more like the population they're communicating to. 0.91

00:13:44.000 It's just, you go to Africa, for example, they have black Jesus. 0.93

00:13:48.000 Okay, so this is, but put that aside, he's like, oh, we've got to take down pictures of Christ. 0.99

00:13:54.000 So it's already happening.

00:13:55.000 And so, but the church generally has been either complicit or complacent.

00:14:01.000 One of those two categories.

00:14:02.000 This church is an exception.

00:14:03.000 So God bless you for having me here because you deserve a lot of credit.

00:14:05.000 You really do.

00:14:07.000 Because I've experienced in the last couple of weeks a mega church pastor.

00:14:11.000 I have to tell this story.

00:14:12.000 It's outrageous.

00:14:13.000 I'm not going to say his name, but it's, you guys can figure it out yourself.

00:14:16.000 So this mega church pastor comes up to me a year ago and he says, I'm a huge fan of yours.

00:14:24.000 I love what you do.

00:14:25.000 All these sorts of things.

00:14:25.000 I say, thank you so much.

00:14:26.000 Introduces himself as a pastor, second largest pastor in the entire country, huge congregation, right?

00:14:31.000 Massive, 60,000, 70,000 people.

00:14:35.000 And he's like, I want to come pay you to speak.

00:14:37.000 I'm like, oh my goodness, that's amazing.

00:14:38.000 Thank you.

00:14:39.000 Text messages.

00:14:40.000 We become friends, right?

00:14:41.000 Texting, all these sorts of things.

00:14:42.000 So then he starts liking my Instagram post.

00:14:45.000 And I'm like, I never asked him to like my Instagram posts.

00:14:47.000 Like, it's completely voluntary, right?

00:14:48.000 It's out there for the world to engage with.

00:14:50.000 I never asked him to like my tweets.

00:14:53.000 Okay.

00:14:53.000 And so then it gets found out by some non-church member in his local community that he's liking my tweets and my social media posts.

00:15:01.000 How dare you, right?

00:15:02.000 Like, that's an unspeakable thing, right?

00:15:05.000 And so instead of saying, no, actually, what Charlie's saying is true, right?

00:15:10.000 That idea of truth that makes the Christian faith different than any other religion in the world, because it's our unrelenting commitment to truth.

00:15:21.000 He then goes on stage and says, oh, I'm so sorry.

00:15:23.000 I had no idea.

00:15:24.000 Throws me completely under the bus.

00:15:26.000 Never mentions that I'm like the most listened to Christian podcaster in the country or social media out there. 0.90

00:15:32.000 It's like, forget all that stuff, right? 0.97

00:15:34.000 To me, he just throws me under the bus.

00:15:36.000 Whatever.

00:15:37.000 So, what's incredible is that he apologizes for something that you need not to apologize for, right?

00:15:43.000 Like, how about you stand up for why you did it?

00:15:45.000 Because it would be one thing, right?

00:15:48.000 If I called him out as a friend of mine and he was like, oh, I'm not comfortable with that.

00:15:52.000 Like, no, you liked my book.

00:15:54.000 Like, you went out of your way to like my stuff.

00:15:56.000 And so, then what ended up happening is national news story.

00:15:58.000 You guys might have seen the story, and it was a whole total thing.

00:16:01.000 But then, incredibly, it's all the local city governments now then say, Oh, since you apologize, you admitted fault.

00:16:07.000 We don't want anything to do with you, right?

00:16:09.000 So, all these poor people that were receiving aid from this megachurch, they said, We don't want your help anymore.

00:16:14.000 That's what happens when you bow to the mountain, right?

00:16:15.000 That's what happens when you surrender to the swarm.

00:16:18.000 All of a sudden, you admit fault and all this stuff.

00:16:20.000 Anyway, that was an incredibly disappointing thing that happened.

00:16:24.000 And it could be repeated.

00:16:26.000 And there have been some amazing pastors, Jack Hibbs, Rob McCoy.

00:16:29.000 I work with Liberty University, Jerry Falwell Jr., who's one of the few just awesome, strong Christians that gets it right now.

00:16:36.000 But really, what's happening right now is Gideon's army.

00:16:38.000 And if you guys know the story of Gideon's army, where huge battle conflict is pending, and God continues to winnow away the troops, and eventually it brings up the troops to the river.

00:16:47.000 It says, Those people that get on their knees, you know, they got to go home.

00:16:50.000 And the people that drink like this, they can effectually 300 versus like 35,000 people, right?

00:16:54.000 And the delivery was the victory was delivered to the 300 people.

00:16:59.000 And it wasn't because, necessarily, because of what they did.

00:17:03.000 Instead, the story was not because you guys should go to a river before you're going to fight.

00:17:07.000 That would be the wrong application.

00:17:10.000 The lesson is that it was God who delivered that victory, right?

00:17:14.000 And I think that's what's happening right now.

00:17:15.000 It's a refiner's fire.

00:17:16.000 When we're actually starting to see who's actually fighting for truth and who's not.

00:17:20.000 So, let's talk about truth because that's a very important thing.

00:17:23.000 Other religions claim that the most important figure in their religion said true things.

00:17:29.000 So, all of us would agree that Isaiah and Moses said true things.

00:17:34.000 But what made Christ different is that he was the actual embodiment of truth, that everything about him was true.

00:17:42.000 It wasn't just like he said a couple things that were like, Yeah, I'll put that on the bumper sticker.

00:17:46.000 Cool.

00:17:47.000 It was that the idea of Alpha and Omega in Greek terms is that everything that human beings ever needed to hear, he said.

00:17:55.000 That his life experience, that his character arc, if you will, from an archetypical standpoint, was so complete.

00:18:02.000 And so, we as Christians know the story.

00:18:04.000 Those of us that have dedicated our life to Christ know it, what it means to be reborn.

00:18:09.000 But let's talk about it in even more in deeper terms because we don't always communicate this.

00:18:13.000 Is that those in Philippians right before one of the most famous verses ever, Philippians 4:13?

00:18:19.000 I think it's Philippians 4:8.

00:18:20.000 Paul says, I could have, I mean, you could be off by a verse or two.

00:18:23.000 Paul says, advocate for whatsoever is true.

00:18:28.000 If you go back to the original Greek, it literally means all things that are true.

00:18:32.000 So, it's not to say that there's a greater truth than Christ.

00:18:36.000 That's not what I'm saying, because that's the ultimate truth.

00:18:38.000 And what does that mean?

00:18:39.000 That you're totally irredeemable.

00:18:42.000 You need redemption.

00:18:44.000 You're not going to get it on your own.

00:18:46.000 It's not what you do.

00:18:47.000 It's just accepting this gift.

00:18:49.000 That's what we as Christians believe.

00:18:50.000 However, if we have truth as when we have to cross, that means that we actually care about something that is a commitment to truth.

00:18:58.000 There are other things that can be true, not equally as true, such as America being a benevolent, generous, accepting country.

00:19:07.000 What Paul's really saying is we should have tolerance, we should have no tolerance for lies anywhere, is what he's saying.

00:19:12.000 Is that we should be okay just walking around having people say, Yeah, you know, we're a really bigoted, awful country. 0.58

00:19:19.000 Like, that should bother anyone who's in the truth business, and those people are Christians, right?

00:19:24.000 And it's like we shouldn't be tolerating anyone that says, Well, yeah, you know, I'm the world's best basketball player ever, and it's obvious that they're not. 0.65

00:19:32.000 That should bother us.

00:19:32.000 Be like, okay, that's not true, right?

00:19:35.000 And so it should equally as bother us when people then don't fight for the truth.

00:19:40.000 So the truth can be very instructive, right?

00:19:43.000 Now, this is a very important thing to connect, though, is that you can know the truth, important, right?

00:19:49.000 But then what do you do with that?

00:19:52.000 Okay, it can save you, it can give you eternal life and give you salvation.

00:19:55.000 However, the next piece, though, is I think what's missing a lot right now.

00:19:59.000 It's because if you just know the truth, and if you use Jesus' parable, if you have light and you just keep it underneath, you know, I believe the parable says underneath either a bowl or something of that.

00:20:11.000 I could be incorrect, but essentially don't allow the light to spread.

00:20:14.000 What good is that light, essentially, is the idea.

00:20:16.000 It's the idea of we're calling you to be bold, right?

00:20:20.000 We're calling you to go out.

00:20:22.000 In fact, Christianity compels us, we are to go make disciples of all nations, right?

00:20:28.000 Like we should go forth and advocate for truth in every single realm and arena. 0.64

00:20:33.000 And so people say, well, Charlie, I don't think Christians should be involved in politics.

00:20:36.000 I hear this all the time.

00:20:38.000 I hear this from pastors.

00:20:39.000 I hear this.

00:20:40.000 They say, oh, it's messy.

00:20:41.000 I say, well, first of all, you want to talk about what's messy.

00:20:44.000 Let's go around to a couple churches, okay?

00:20:47.000 Because anything human beings touch will be messy.

00:20:49.000 You want to see corruption.

00:20:50.000 You want to see self-interest.

00:20:52.000 Everything human beings are involved in that will happen.

00:20:55.000 And some churches are better than others, but don't try to go on the pedestal and say that the church has been immune to that kind of behavior.

00:21:02.000 That's number one.

00:21:03.000 But what does the Bible tell us to do?

00:21:04.000 The Bible gives us very specific instructions of how to act and what to do in every single realm of life.

00:21:10.000 What to eat, how to act, how to marry, how to communicate, to tell the truth, to not lie.

00:21:18.000 All these things.

00:21:19.000 And you're trying to tell me that somehow that, the one segment of society that touches every other segment, we're just supposed to not involve ourselves in?

00:21:27.000 So here's how I break it down.

00:21:28.000 It's a very simple decision-making matrix.

00:21:30.000 Number one, the most important thing you could do in your life is accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:21:34.000 Most important thing.

00:21:36.000 You know what the second most important thing is?

00:21:38.000 Make sure you can do the first thing.

00:21:41.000 And so we as Christians should absolutely say, I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

00:21:46.000 Then we've got to ask ourselves the question, are we still going to be able to do that in 10 years?

00:21:51.000 Is the world a better place because the United States of America has the kingdom of God spread or not spread because of the United States of America?

00:21:56.000 It's not even close.

00:21:57.000 I'll tell you an example.

00:21:58.000 There's 100 million people in South Korea right now.

00:22:01.000 It is on fire for the Lord like you wouldn't believe.

00:22:03.000 Christian revolution. 0.99

00:22:05.000 Why does South Korea exist? 0.87

00:22:07.000 Because United States of America. 0.56

00:22:08.000 After World War II, when we were war-weary, we stepped up and sent troops to a war that we would never benefit land from, no wealth from.

00:22:16.000 This whole idea that we're colonialist is one of the most pernicious lies that has ever pervaded the United States school system ever.

00:22:22.000 In fact, we have fought more wars for nothing in return except the land to bury our dead than any other nation in the history of the world.

00:22:28.000 We just ask for the land to bury our dead and say thank you, enjoy your life. 0.86

00:22:32.000 So we pushed back the Korean and Chinese communists with Russian Soviet support. 0.98

00:22:35.000 They had the entire Korean Peninsula. 0.97

00:22:37.000 We pushed them back. 1.00

00:22:37.000 South Korea exists. 1.00

00:22:39.000 Now tens of millions of Christians committed their life to Christ on the Korean Peninsula.

00:22:43.000 Basically, next to none are doing that in North Korea because of totalitarian communism.

00:22:48.000 So thanks to the United States of America, more people, no Jesus, no eternal life.

00:22:54.000 And I can go example by example, by the way, of where the church is on fire in places like India, the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, where we have no investment.

00:23:04.000 It's not a state.

00:23:05.000 It's not anything.

00:23:05.000 It's just like, hey, we stepped up.

00:23:07.000 We sent our sons and daughters to go fight for something that was righteous and pure and true.

00:23:13.000 And it's not always a perfect calculation.

00:23:14.000 America's gotten involved in plenty of muddied international conflicts.

00:23:18.000 But the question on the moving average is, is the world a better place because the United States of America?

00:23:23.000 And the answer is, of course it is.

00:23:25.000 We don't teach any of this to our kids, by the way.

00:23:27.000 That's very important because everything that is taught to our kids, and I'm generalizing, there's plenty of good schools and good teachers, but trust me, if anyone knows how we communicate to kids, the person who's visited more college campuses than any conservative in the last five years, I've visited well over 150 turning point USAs on 2,000 high school and college campuses across the country.

00:23:46.000 We're on pace for 1,000 chapters.

00:23:48.000 I know what's being taught.

00:23:49.000 Like, I get it.

00:23:51.000 And it's really bad.

00:23:52.000 Everything is through a negative lens.

00:23:54.000 Everything.

00:23:55.000 Everything is trying to get students to become committed activists to destroy the country that they're within.

00:24:01.000 And it's rooted in this very specific division.

00:24:06.000 It's a very simple division.

00:24:08.000 Are you grateful or ungrateful that you live in America?

00:24:11.000 Now, all throughout Paul's teaching, he talks about how thankful he is.

00:24:14.000 Gratitude is a huge element of Paul's letters to the early church.

00:24:19.000 Basically, it says, be thankful, my friends, for the persecution.

00:24:22.000 This idea that because you're born in Christ, because what you've been given, have that joy, that gratitude is almost the fruit that makes everything else sweet.

00:24:29.000 In fact, I think if you don't have gratitude, you're going to be a very unhappy person.

00:24:33.000 I actually think that if you want to be content, it's because you're thankful.

00:24:36.000 If you're not very content, it's because you're not thankful.

00:24:38.000 Same could be said for a country, though.

00:24:40.000 Do you think the people that are marching in the streets right now, do you think that they're thankful?

00:24:45.000 You think, well, do you burn down that which you are thankful for?

00:24:49.000 Do you riot for that which you are really thankful?

00:24:52.000 What you are thankful for, you protect, right?

00:24:54.000 Think about it.

00:24:54.000 You protect your family, you protect your grandkids, you protect your church.

00:24:58.000 Think about the thing where you would take up arms to protect.

00:25:02.000 Whatever that thing is, is something you're thankful for, right?

00:25:06.000 And think of the thing that you wouldn't, but then you're not, I mean, you might be somewhat thankful for, but that's exactly what's happening.

00:25:11.000 So what we do is we teach ingratitude to kids.

00:25:14.000 No, we're an awful country. 1.00

00:25:16.000 We're racist, bigoted, homophobic, backwards. 1.00

00:25:18.000 Founding fathers or slave owners. 0.99

00:25:20.000 This whole thing's a failed colonialist experiment.

00:25:22.000 And yet what we do not see right now is, by the way, this could have been the greatest moment for conservatives and Republicans in American history.

00:25:31.000 And currently we are squandering it.

00:25:33.000 Because I'm speaking louder than ever, and we've benefited from it at Turning Point.

00:25:37.000 I mean, our platform is bigger than ever.

00:25:38.000 Our podcasts are unbelievable because there's so few people that are actually telling the truth about our country.

00:25:45.000 And so you have this incredibly dangerous project by the New York Times funded.

00:25:49.000 It's called the 1619 Project.

00:25:50.000 Have you ever heard of it?

00:25:51.000 They're teaching it in schools all across the country.

00:25:53.000 Jillian Stateport is headed into public instruction for the state.

00:25:57.000 Did I get that right?

00:25:58.000 I think I did.

00:25:59.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:26:00.000 In charge of what your kids learn, okay?

00:26:02.000 We talked about this.

00:26:03.000 She's doing a great job, by the way. 1.00

00:26:04.000 Wyoming's going to be better off because of the work she's doing.

00:26:06.000 The 1619 project is funded by the New York Times.

00:26:09.000 It's in hundreds, if not thousands, school districts across the country.

00:26:12.000 So the idea of the 1619 project is that it's completely post-modernist, it's anti-American, and the founder is a complete work of, I mean, she's a piece of work, okay?

00:26:21.000 You see her, she calls white people total barbarians. 0.78

00:26:24.000 She says white people have done more damage to the country, to the world. 1.00

00:26:26.000 I mean, she's incredibly racist, right? 0.99

00:26:28.000 But that's who's teaching our kids. 0.99

00:26:30.000 And so she comes up and she makes this ridiculous argument, and it's so foolish, yet it's new, that only someone who has a doctorate from like Brown could believe in something like this, right? 0.96

00:26:41.000 So these elites are like, oh, yeah, that's really fashionable. 0.97

00:26:44.000 I like that.

00:26:44.000 Let's teach our kids it.

00:26:45.000 It's that we weren't founded in 1776. 0.71

00:26:47.000 This is her entire idea, right? 0.75

00:26:49.000 We were actually founded in 1619 when the first slaves arrived to America.

00:26:54.000 And you read what she believes, why she believes it.

00:26:57.000 It's very flawed historically and otherwise.

00:26:59.000 Well, first of all, she fails to recognize that most of the slaves were brought to America through English colonialism, right?

00:27:06.000 America was literally metaphorically and psychologically founded as a response against the kind of English tyrannical rule.

00:27:14.000 And there's a very interesting point that she mentions in none of the curriculum.

00:27:18.000 Many of you guys might, you know, might not have known this.

00:27:21.000 The first state to abolish slavery was a year after the Declaration of Independence, Vermont, in the year 1777.

00:27:26.000 So, before we even became an official country, we were already abolishing slavery. 0.99

00:27:30.000 And so, then you have Senator Tim King, who's an absolute fool. 0.98

00:27:34.000 He goes on the United States Senate floor and he says America invented slavery. 1.00

00:27:37.000 This is a pathological lie.

00:27:39.000 There were slaves that predated Christ.

00:27:41.000 I mean, the idea of slavery, every single civilization has had the idea of slavery.

00:27:46.000 It's actually because of Christianity that slavery was abolished.

00:27:50.000 The idea of the liberation of the individual, the sovereignty of the individual, that you're made in the image of God.

00:27:55.000 Yet we teach our students that it was our country that perfected it.

00:27:59.000 No, within 70 years, we fought an armed conflict to get rid of it.

00:28:04.000 No other country can boast that. 0.87

00:28:07.000 There are slaves right now in the Middle East under Islamic theocratic fundamental dictatorships. 0.90

00:28:11.000 We don't teach our kids that the world's largest religion, the thing that they, the truth that they value most, is not Christ, but Muhammad was a slave owner himself. 0.72

00:28:20.000 That would be a nice little piece of contribution of information, right?

00:28:23.000 That it depends how you calculate it.

00:28:25.000 Some people say Christianity is the world's largest religion.

00:28:27.000 Some people say Islam.

00:28:28.000 Whatever.

00:28:29.000 Let's say that Islam is one of the, if not the largest.

00:28:31.000 I think that's fair to say, to be most specific. 1.00

00:28:34.000 That it's perfectly, their most important person in their faith, who they called the prophet, was a slave owner. 0.61

00:28:41.000 Like, that would be a nice contribution of information, right? 0.60

00:28:44.000 And so here's the kind of summarize it all: we do have the truth.

00:28:49.000 And so if you look at John 1, it's very important, because John 1, amazing.

00:28:54.000 If you look at it just from a literature standpoint, it was written unlike any of the other gospels or the books of the Bible.

00:29:02.000 It was different in the way that it portrayed Christ.

00:29:05.000 Not different in a bad way.

00:29:07.000 I encourage all new believers to read John as their first book, just because it's so, it's written in a very narrative form that brings you through.

00:29:15.000 But it starts with this idea, and it's the only gospel that goes out of its way to describe Christ as Logos, right?

00:29:22.000 Which literally means ultimate truth, right?

00:29:25.000 That this is what is good and right and true in the world.

00:29:28.000 And so it's that commitment to truth is why Christianity has always been on the right side of scientific, medical, societal, and civilization advancements, right?

00:29:37.000 It's because when you create a society that's around the discovery of truth and you create a whole culture around that, then you're going to do awesome and amazing things.

00:29:47.000 You're going to eradicate polio, you're going to have amazing inventions.

00:29:51.000 But the opposite of that, what has the atheist secular worldview ever done for the betterment of humanity? 0.91

00:29:58.000 Well, let's look to the 20th century, right?

00:29:59.000 We have plenty of examples of this.

00:30:01.000 And we don't teach our kids any of this stuff.

00:30:05.000 In the last hundred years, we have an entire book, literally, of what happens when you judge people just based on skin color.

00:30:14.000 What happens when you promise utopia?

00:30:16.000 And utopia literally means nowhere in the root word of the word.

00:30:20.000 What happens when you think that one human being around limitless promises can deliver you heaven on earth?

00:30:28.000 It's very interesting because we cannot create heaven on earth.

00:30:31.000 In fact, nothing even close to it.

00:30:33.000 But we can get really close to creating hell on earth.

00:30:35.000 It's a very important thing to remember.

00:30:38.000 We can get close to creating our own form of hell on earth.

00:30:41.000 Just look at the Soviet Union: 60 million people dead. 0.70

00:30:44.000 Famines, poverty, suffering, killing, extermination squats.

00:30:48.000 I go into a school at Brown University and I ask them who Alexander Solshenitsyn is.

00:30:52.000 They have no idea what I'm talking about.

00:30:54.000 These must be the brightest kids across our country.

00:30:56.000 Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who wrote the Gulag Archipelago. 0.96

00:30:59.000 I mean, if you guys want to see how dark human beings can get, just read a chapter of that book. 0.89

00:31:04.000 Read a book that's called KGB's Most Wanted by a friend of mine, Joseph Bartarenko, who was a pastor who was arrested at age 26 in the Soviet Union and imprisoned for two decades because he dared talk about the gospel of Jesus Christ in the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg, thrown into the worst aspects of society. 0.91

00:31:22.000 This would be highly instructive for the next generation to know, right?

00:31:26.000 Because history, if you want to know the road ahead, ask those coming back. 0.93

00:31:30.000 It's not as if these people that are on TV, you have Alexandria Casio-Cortez and all these fools, right?

00:31:35.000 They act as if they're the first people that have ever thought of these ideas. 0.87

00:31:39.000 Oh, everyone before us has gotten it wrong.

00:31:41.000 I mean, all we have to do is take from these people and give to this people, and we have all this sort of incredible amount of justice.

00:31:47.000 And you can start to see the little dictator in them start to get up, right?

00:31:50.000 I mean, you give them a standing army, they can take over a small Central American country with that message, because those ideas have. 0.55

00:31:58.000 And America was always resistant to these ideas, though, because of the church. 0.52

00:32:04.000 You have to understand that the only reason we didn't go into communism and socialism in the 70s and 80s, and by the way, the Soviet, we have this ridiculous belief that we were the only ones sending spies into Russia, that they weren't sending spies back.

00:32:19.000 Think about that, though.

00:32:20.000 Like, we have this belief, like, oh, yeah, all these people were trying to infiltrate the KGB, and we had all these sleeper cells in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

00:32:28.000 You ever think they were trying to do that to us, too?

00:32:30.000 Like, of course they were, and they did.

00:32:32.000 And in fact, Yuri Besmanov, who I highly encourage you guys to check out, the declassified files, he was in charge of the American file and the KGB that killed him a couple years later, sudden heart attack in Canada.

00:32:42.000 But all the videos are on YouTube where he says, oh, we infiltrated universities, we infiltrated Hollywood, we infiltrated the political system.

00:32:48.000 And so, and but what always made it different, the one thing they couldn't quite get their way into was this.

00:32:55.000 But they're here now.

00:32:57.000 So, this, that's why I am more convicted now.

00:33:00.000 I'll speak at any church that I'll have me to war about what's happening because this country was founded by the churches.

00:33:06.000 This country was perfected by the churches, or I shouldn't say perfected, but it was improved by the churches.

00:33:11.000 Because dare I ever say that we achieved perfection?

00:33:13.000 That would not be true.

00:33:15.000 But the Civil War and the idea of the Emancipation Proclamation was the churches that were driving that change.

00:33:21.000 The abolitionist movement was a Christian movement. 0.73

00:33:25.000 And yet, now what we have today is the last population that could save us from absolute and total dissent into barbaric tribalism is the American church. 0.76

00:33:34.000 And so, people, Christians, and there's two pockets, in my opinion, of what happens. 0.60

00:33:39.000 Actually, three.

00:33:39.000 There's one pocket of Christians that know this is right, but they're so decent, they're so wonderful, Christ-filled people.

00:33:46.000 They just feel like this is so combat, like it's combat.

00:33:49.000 And I get it.

00:33:49.000 It's like, I can't do this.

00:33:51.000 Like, it's just too loud, it's too messy.

00:33:53.000 Can I just go on a mission trip?

00:33:55.000 And I get that.

00:33:55.000 I get it.

00:33:56.000 And if that is you, I have a way that I can suggest how to involve.

00:34:01.000 The second group of people is what I call the excuse of eschatology, where people are like, oh, the world's going to end in like five days.

00:34:10.000 None of this matters.

00:34:11.000 Christ is coming back.

00:34:12.000 I'm just going to make sure I got all my points in my Christian scoreboard filled, right? 0.57

00:34:17.000 And I'm going to make sure all my friends are really governments, this, that, who cares? 0.53

00:34:21.000 We're all doomed and alone.

00:34:23.000 I don't have that kind of eschatology, okay?

00:34:26.000 That is not my belief.

00:34:27.000 I think that's actually against what Christ tells us to do.

00:34:29.000 The third category, though, which is very important, is people that have been misled in seminaries.

00:34:35.000 People that have been hypnotized into believing that Christ was actually a socialist.

00:34:42.000 Believing that America is actually a force for bad and for evil in the world, not for good.

00:34:47.000 They're the ones that actually are the most clear and present dangers.

00:34:51.000 I think that the people that have those kind of eschatological beliefs, I think they could be brought over to the category of standing for what is right and what is pure or what is true.

00:34:58.000 I do, because they do believe in the Bible.

00:35:01.000 The people that are like, well, I don't know how to do it, that's okay.

00:35:04.000 So there's three types of people in this fight right now.

00:35:06.000 There's the people that are doing nothing or helping the opposition.

00:35:09.000 There's the fighters and the people that help the fighters.

00:35:12.000 So understand in a war type analogy or a metaphor, you don't have to be the first person on the front lines or the ones flying the planes.

00:35:19.000 Be someone that helps in the supply line, right?

00:35:22.000 World War II is not just one by the people that storm the beach.

00:35:25.000 God for those people, right? 1.00

00:35:26.000 It was the mostly female force that's worked 24-hour shifts in the factories to make sure we had the physical infrastructure to be able to fight two wars in two different theaters at the same time. 0.98

00:35:38.000 And I think that's the kind of broad perspective we have to take. 0.93

00:35:41.000 Because people say, well, Charlie, I can never do what you do.

00:35:43.000 And I say, that's fine.

00:35:44.000 And I don't recommend it, by the way.

00:35:46.000 It's not, I happen to, we happen to be built for it.

00:35:49.000 I happen to be built for it.

00:35:50.000 But, you know, having death threats, dost, having personal security all the time.

00:35:54.000 See, Wyoming, I don't need as much personal security because I figure the moving average is someone somewhere is armed that likes my worldview that they might stand up for me.

00:36:01.000 And I saw Hercules over here and I was like, you know, you're going to have my back.

00:36:05.000 But all kidding aside, is that there has to be a very clear, clarion call to action for that.

00:36:12.000 And so here's the optimistic part: right, is that we don't have the tech companies.

00:36:17.000 We do not have the political elite.

00:36:19.000 Our politicians have sold us all out, by the way.

00:36:21.000 Most of them.

00:36:22.000 God bless Donald Trump for what he's done for our country, what he has to fight for every single day.

00:36:26.000 Incredible.

00:36:27.000 And I'm blessed and honored to call him a friend.

00:36:30.000 And that's another thing.

00:36:31.000 People Christians say, well, I don't like his tone. 0.78

00:36:33.000 I don't like this.

00:36:34.000 And I don't like that.

00:36:35.000 Okay. 1.00

00:36:35.000 I say, you're a Bible-believing Christian. 1.00

00:36:36.000 They say yes. 0.99

00:36:37.000 I say, well, then I need you to go get a pair of scissors and remove a part of your Bible.

00:36:41.000 What are you talking about?

00:36:42.000 Say, get rid of the story of Samson.

00:36:44.000 Just get it out.

00:36:46.000 Right?

00:36:46.000 Because if you look at in Hebrews, Samson is talked about in the Hall of Faith.

00:36:50.000 If I go into a Sunday school class full of seven and eight-year-olds, I can't tell the story of Samson without like watering it down.

00:36:58.000 God came to Samson when he was in the prostitute's bed, who was philandering around the entire town and city. 0.92

00:37:05.000 God called Samson to go take a jaw of a donkey and go kill a thousand Philistines. 0.99

00:37:10.000 Like this is pretty aggressive stuff, right? 0.55

00:37:12.000 I mean, that's not exactly PG, but God called Samson for a very specific purpose because the people of Israel were not standing, ready to stand and fight.

00:37:21.000 And we see this theme repeat itself all throughout the Bible.

00:37:24.000 King David.

00:37:24.000 I mean, there's parts of the King David story we're kind of like, yeah, we don't have to tell our kids about that.

00:37:29.000 We all know about it.

00:37:30.000 But I mean, he basically had someone murdered so that he'd go commit adultery.

00:37:33.000 Like, that's a double whammy against the Ten Commandments and put a bow on that one.

00:37:36.000 But he was still a guy after God's own heart, right?

00:37:39.000 And so what you see with Donald Trump is someone who has done more for the evangelical cause, more for the kingdom in America, fought harder.

00:37:45.000 And I kind of look at him as a bodyguard, a bodyguard for America and a bodyguard for truth.

00:37:50.000 Like, do you want your bodyguard to like always be the most polished guy?

00:37:53.000 No, he's a guy that's going to take the arrows and the bullets for you.

00:37:56.000 A guy that's going to punch the other side of the face for you when it's needed, right?

00:37:59.000 A guy that's going to allow you to be safe.

00:38:01.000 A guy that's going to be the bulwark and the titan that's going to be like, stand behind me.

00:38:06.000 I got this.

00:38:08.000 Now, do you want someone who's nice and very particular?

00:38:11.000 Please stop doing this, right?

00:38:14.000 Can you please stop burning the church?

00:38:15.000 That would be really nice.

00:38:16.000 Or someone that, like what he said the other day, if you burn a church, it's 20 years in prison.

00:38:21.000 We're going to find you.

00:38:22.000 We're going to arrest you. 0.54

00:38:23.000 We're going to put you in prison. 0.89

00:38:24.000 That's not happening as Muhammad Walked as president. 0.97

00:38:27.000 Do you want someone who asks nicely to Planned Parenthood? 0.97

00:38:29.000 Can you please stop the million abortions a year?

00:38:32.000 It's probably not the best thing.

00:38:33.000 Or someone like Donald Trump, who, by the way, I understand completely some of you guys, well, Charlie, he's twice divorced and three times married.

00:38:40.000 He's on the cover of the Playboy magazine.

00:38:42.000 Fine.

00:38:42.000 Let the first among us without sin throw the first stone.

00:38:45.000 But would you rather have someone who's so polite and all this, but never spoke at the March for Life like George W. Bush?

00:38:51.000 Never even, because you didn't want to offend someone.

00:38:53.000 But Donald Trump, first president ever speak for March for Life, to stand on the side of the unborn, who actually has cut Planned Parenthood funding, where we have Gorsuch and Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, 200 circuit court judges, who has signed executive orders for religious liberty that has allowed churches to operate without the threat of audit or subpoena or being closed by the federal government that happened under Barack Obama.

00:39:14.000 So what I'm saying is that we as Christians, in my opinion, have to understand that knowing truth is critical.

00:39:21.000 In fact, it's most important.

00:39:22.000 But fighting for truth is not more important, but I actually think it cheapens the truth if you don't fight for it.

00:39:31.000 I think I actually question whether you believe in it or not, because we all have ultimate victory, right?

00:39:38.000 And so that should actually surrender us to kind of go even further in this earthly domain.

00:39:44.000 If we know where we are going, if we have faith in that final destination, that should say, you know what?

00:39:49.000 I know I'm going to heaven.

00:39:51.000 I know why I believe what I believe.

00:39:53.000 It's time that we start to contest for this right now.

00:39:55.000 And so what I see is really interesting.

00:39:57.000 And here's my incredibly optimistic point, is that I believe in the Galatians 3 model, where I'm a principled constitutional conservative who's a Christian.

00:40:10.000 Christianity is more important than those things.

00:40:11.000 But when I go to a college campus, I'll weave in and out themes of Christianity.

00:40:15.000 I'll never apologize for it, and I'll debate atheists all the time.

00:40:17.000 But my primary message is about the ideas of a civil society and governance and the Constitution and all that stuff.

00:40:24.000 We've brought more people to Christ talking about organized political thinking.

00:40:30.000 And then people say, well, Charlie, where's the root of all that?

00:40:32.000 I'm glad you asked.

00:40:33.000 We get our free branches of government derived out of Isaiah.

00:40:36.000 We get the idea of moral governance out of judges.

00:40:38.000 We get the idea of laws from the Ten Commandments.

00:40:41.000 We get the idea of private property from Abraham, who literally bought the plots of land in Hebron to be able to bury which is now the Hall of Patriarchs.

00:40:49.000 These ideas didn't just like arise out of someone in the 1600s.

00:40:53.000 They were fought for and perfected.

00:40:55.000 Actually, there was a lawgiver, not just laws that arrived miraculously.

00:40:59.000 That you have rights, but you know that someone gave you those natural rights.

00:41:03.000 And so what we get these messages like, you wouldn't believe, Charlie, you've brought me back to going to church.

00:41:08.000 Charlie, you've brought me to Christ.

00:41:09.000 These are people that the church was not giving them what they needed.

00:41:12.000 You know what it was?

00:41:13.000 They were sure, they were saying, yes, I believe in Christ.

00:41:15.000 They lifted their hands for conversion, but there was no discipleship.

00:41:19.000 See, the Bible tells to create, to us to create disciples of all nations, not converts of all nations.

00:41:24.000 Now, you can't create disciples without converts.

00:41:26.000 I have to understand that.

00:41:27.000 But what happens to you have these young kids that are 21 years old that give their life to Christ, and then all of a sudden they say something that is even remotely organized in political thinking, saying, maybe we shouldn't have statues be pulled down.

00:41:38.000 And their friends call them names and they kicked out of sororis and they're kicked off of social media.

00:41:42.000 And they go to their pastors and the pastors say, well, you know, we don't really get involved in politics around here.

00:41:47.000 And they leave the church.

00:41:49.000 And that's happening more than you can imagine.

00:41:50.000 This idea that you could separate the church from the contested culture, that sort of surgical precision, I don't think exists.

00:42:00.000 And so that's what I think is so exciting about the optimistic part of it.

00:42:03.000 And kind of close the point, we'll do some questions, but that's okay.

00:42:07.000 Is give the left the tech companies, give them the politicians, give them all these ridiculous item infrastructure. 0.97

00:42:14.000 They have trillions of dollars.

00:42:15.000 They have all the world governments.

00:42:17.000 I'll let them have all that if we can have the truth.

00:42:21.000 If you have the truth, you can diffuse all of that.

00:42:23.000 I have turned people that are in their mid-60s away from the lies of leftism and secular and humanism with one sentence of truth.

00:42:30.000 One sentence of truth can diffuse a lifetime of lies.

00:42:33.000 That's it.

00:42:34.000 And that kind of commitment to that should fire up everyone to fight harder and to spread our message more than ever before.

00:42:39.000 So let's do some questions.

00:42:40.000 That's okay.

00:42:41.000 Thanks for having me, guys.

00:42:52.000 Anyone?

00:42:56.000 Do you know what I should just hand over?

00:42:59.000 I'm not afraid of you.

00:43:00.000 No, you're not.

00:43:01.000 Hi.

00:43:02.000 Hi, my name is Marlena.

00:43:04.000 It's really nice to have you here, and we're very grateful that you came.

00:43:07.000 First of all, I'm done.

00:43:09.000 I'm done with all of it.

00:43:11.000 All of it.

00:43:12.000 And I'm tired of not being able to fight.

00:43:15.000 And I need to know what I'm supposed to do next.

00:43:18.000 I've been homeschooling my kids for 24 years with a historical background, with a biblical background.

00:43:24.000 I fight for everything around me.

00:43:26.000 My husband will tell you the very same thing.

00:43:28.000 He doesn't shut me up and he makes sure that people hear.

00:43:31.000 But the thing is, nobody is hearing anymore.

00:43:33.000 And I'm tired.

00:43:34.000 I'm tired of a younger generation who is constantly belittling the older generation and telling us that we have nothing to say.

00:43:42.000 I'm tired of my parents' generation sitting around and saying, Yeah, we're too old.

00:43:46.000 We have nothing to do with any of this.

00:43:48.000 I'm tired.

00:43:50.000 And I'm just sick of all of it.

00:43:53.000 What are we supposed to do next?

00:43:55.000 Because every time I ask, I either don't get a response or I get, well, you know, it's just the way the new normal.

00:44:03.000 It's the new normal.

00:44:04.000 So I'm done.

00:44:05.000 So have you run for school board?

00:44:06.000 I have not.

00:44:07.000 I mean, I'm busy homeschooling my children.

00:44:09.000 That's fine.

00:44:10.000 So I feel you and I hear you.

00:44:10.000 I understand.

00:44:13.000 I get this question a lot.

00:44:14.000 What am I supposed to do?

00:44:15.000 Yes.

00:44:16.000 I've done it all.

00:44:17.000 And I say, first of all, I applaud and appreciate it.

00:44:20.000 And I love the energy.

00:44:22.000 And I wish we had a million people like you because America.

00:44:24.000 Ask her what her pastor thinks.

00:44:26.000 Ask her what her pastor thinks.

00:44:26.000 Huh?

00:44:27.000 What does your pastor think?

00:44:30.000 Never mind.

00:44:31.000 Okay.

00:44:33.000 So let me talk a little bit abstractly first, and I'll talk more concretely, if that's okay.

00:44:40.000 So abstractly is that everyone should be sacrificing and surrendering something right now and being willing to lose everything in the pursuit of the truth.

00:44:47.000 That's hard, right?

00:44:48.000 And so everyone has their guardrails.

00:44:51.000 For me, it's like, yeah, they'll take everything that I've worked for, all my advertisers, my podcast, turning point, USA, our buildings, and all of it.

00:44:57.000 At this point, it's like I've already kind of come to the conclusion that if they take it all away and I'm still advocating for what's right in the world, I win, they lose.

00:45:04.000 That's basically it.

00:45:05.000 That doesn't mean I'd be reckless about it, right? 0.85

00:45:07.000 That would be silly.

00:45:09.000 But you should also understand that this is not going to come without a price.

00:45:14.000 In fact, we're guaranteed persecution in the Bible.

00:45:16.000 That's number one.

00:45:17.000 Let's talk more specifically. 0.53

00:45:18.000 Christians have got to get organized and run for school board.

00:45:21.000 Does anyone know every school board member here in local Gillette? 1.00

00:45:24.000 Yeah, Christians usually don't. 1.00

00:45:24.000 Probably not. 1.00

00:45:25.000 No offense. 0.99

00:45:27.000 School unions do.

00:45:28.000 They know all of them and they're involved and they finance and they run them.

00:45:30.000 Why the church doesn't have regular meetings to run for a school board, drafts candidates and knocks on doors, I don't get it.

00:45:36.000 And that's happened all across the country.

00:45:38.000 It's not just here.

00:45:39.000 It's in Thousand Oaks, California.

00:45:40.000 It's in Bangor, Maine.

00:45:41.000 It's in Charlotte, North Carolina.

00:45:43.000 And by the way, I think it's 2 Timothy something.

00:45:45.000 It says, pray for your leaders, know them by name, that they might have the hearts.

00:45:48.000 It might be 1 Timothy.

00:45:49.000 I might be confusing it.

00:45:50.000 However, those are our leaders.

00:45:51.000 Every Sunday service, we should be lifting up our school board members by name and saying, we pray for these people to make informed moral decisions for our local community.

00:45:59.000 And the school boards are a huge thing.

00:46:01.000 Number two, more specifically, spend more on cultural and political engagement every single year than you spend on coffee.

00:46:09.000 And by the way, the average American will spend about $10 a day on coffee.

00:46:13.000 And you might not, and that's good.

00:46:15.000 But that's an average American, right?

00:46:17.000 So if being caffeinated is more important than having a country, that's fine.

00:46:20.000 That's your priority.

00:46:21.000 But it's amazing how people, and I'm not just being financially that, that's part of it, right?

00:46:25.000 But it's like, it's one of those things, and I feel your fatigue, right?

00:46:29.000 Because you feel as if, my goodness, I'm doing all this stuff.

00:46:31.000 However, what you're already doing is what I always tell people to do, because this is what makes the left and the right different is that we actually believe the greatest prism to be able to create a better world starts with you.

00:46:41.000 They believe the great prism to create a better world starts with destroying everything else around you.

00:46:44.000 And these are the people that are total schleps.

00:46:46.000 Their rooms are a mess.

00:46:48.000 They're up till three o'clock, you know, doing drugs and drinking, and they're incredibly disorganized.

00:46:52.000 And they're the ones telling me I got to get our life together.

00:46:55.000 I'm like, wait a second, come to me when you've shaved, showered in the last month, can speak a coherent sentence and can pass a drug test, and then let's have a conversation about what it means to create a better world.

00:47:05.000 And that's the entire thing: we have not laid into the next generation about if you want to be an activist for a great world, be the most productive, moral, responsible person you can be before you start telling us that the rest of the world is unjust, right?

00:47:20.000 Make sure your room is perfectly tidy.

00:47:22.000 Make sure you dress nicely, you conduct yourself, never tell a lie.

00:47:26.000 Like the things that are basic, as Jordan Peterson would say, rules for life.

00:47:30.000 If you're not following those things, don't go pick up a sign and take on the rest of the world.

00:47:34.000 So I want to commend you, though, because you're already doing those things.

00:47:37.000 And so don't, my encouragement to you, though, is don't get disheartened if you're already doing the correct things that other people should be doing.

00:47:45.000 Because that's already going to be, it's kind of, it's in some ways, it's the categorical imperative, which is not a Christian ethic, but it's very applicable, which is if you think that you can get away with doing something and you don't think the rest of the world will not do that something, then you're not acting morally.

00:48:02.000 And so Kant, who is really screwed up in a very tough read, he would argue that you should not lie because if you should not lie, because then it would give permission for other people to lie.

00:48:14.000 Like you should act as if other people should act.

00:48:16.000 It's the same Christian ethic as do unto others as you want to do unto yourself, right?

00:48:20.000 And I interpret that as like if you're not in your individual life not contesting for these things, it's not a spectator sport, right?

00:48:28.000 It's not like you show up to an auditorium and be like, you go, Trump, like, yeah, and then you just kind of go home and like, no, it's everyone involved at all moments from education to finance to politics to governance to church to religion to shopping to all everything you do should be around that prism of the pursuit of truth.

00:48:44.000 I hope that's helpful.

00:48:46.000 Next question.

00:48:52.000 Hercules.

00:48:54.000 Okay.

00:49:00.000 This goes back to.

00:49:01.000 Speaking of Samson, by the way, my goodness.

00:49:05.000 This goes back to you talking about likes on social media.

00:49:09.000 This is going on right now.

00:49:11.000 It's actually a lot of the reason I came here.

00:49:14.000 Our mayor, blackmailed city councilman, off of, well, into resignation because he liked a social media post of mine.

00:49:25.000 And he resigned because she said that she would come out and publicly humiliate him.

00:49:32.000 So he resigns, and everybody wanted answers on why he resigned.

00:49:37.000 So in an effort to justify her actions, she posted all the information that she said she wouldn't post.

00:49:44.000 In doing this, she kept my name on every post.

00:49:48.000 And she put my name all over all the government social media pages and in every newspaper.

00:49:54.000 So I wasn't very happy.

00:49:58.000 And I went to the next city council meeting, which is two days later, and told her what I thought.

00:50:06.000 And this little feud goes back, even like back to when I was a kid, because her daughter was hated my brother, whatever.

00:50:15.000 So anyway, I tell her what I think.

00:50:18.000 And two days later, the videos got, we put a video on Facebook, and two days later, it's got 17,000 views.

00:50:24.000 And now the entire community has turned against the local government and it's a huge mess.

00:50:33.000 Sounds like that.

00:50:34.000 I've contacted everybody and nobody wants to touch it with a 10-foot pole.

00:50:40.000 Yeah, I don't know what you posted, so I have to ask.

00:50:46.000 I could read it to you.

00:50:48.000 Well, we could sidebar afterwards, so I have to do my due diligence because that's...

00:50:53.000 Absolutely.

00:50:55.000 It was essentially asking how I could aid the safety of police officers in case there was a PLM protest that got violent. 1.00

00:51:03.000 I use the word mongoloids in it, and apparently that's a deal-breaker. 1.00

00:51:10.000 Yeah, I probably wouldn't support that. 1.00

00:51:12.000 No, like, you know, you can say that I'm not very nice, I guess, but to then have them there label me as this racist, sexist, bigot.

00:51:23.000 So now I get to wear all the titles that the local government put on.

00:51:27.000 I'm happy to chat with you after.

00:51:29.000 But thank you, my friend.

00:51:31.000 And I can only imagine how awful it is to go through something.

00:51:35.000 I mean, I do know because I see it every single day.

00:51:42.000 I'll actually piggyback off that, but ask you questions that will maybe you can answer.

00:51:47.000 When you're dealing with a local government that has council members and a mayor that tell the community that they're God-fearing and answer to the authority of the Lord, and you are in a current situation where you feel like they're not standing up for what's right, and you turn to your community and you're getting great response, but you're not really getting any response from your pastors and from your church members.

00:52:14.000 Where does that change start?

00:52:17.000 And I mean, I've talked to my own pastor about this, and he always defaults back to Romans 13.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, Jesus, hope, love, and turn the other cheek, love your enemy.

00:52:27.000 And that's why, you know, I hear most of the time we get excuses from the church of why they won't get involved in something that's a little messy and standing up for what's right.

00:52:34.000 But I have this holy conviction inside of me to deliver the message of truth, but do it in a way that's not hateful.

00:52:41.000 So, first of all, great question.

00:52:43.000 A lot of pastors will say that, and then they'll also hide behind.

00:52:46.000 I think it's Romans 13, which says basically God appoints all levels of authority and all that.

00:52:51.000 So, that's a really interesting point.

00:52:54.000 But we have to take it into the American context and connect it to what Paul was saying in Romans 13.

00:53:00.000 So, when Paul is talking about the sovereignty of or the authority of kings, but who's the sovereign in America?

00:53:07.000 It's not the leaders, we are.

00:53:09.000 So, it's very interesting that actually, we, the people, as a chartering document, is completely different than Thessalonica or the Middle East or any of the parts or Rome.

00:53:17.000 That was like that was just a hereditary body.

00:53:21.000 The leaders are just temporary in our system.

00:53:23.000 We're actually the sovereign.

00:53:25.000 So, the leaders actually have to answer to us.

00:53:27.000 So, Romans 13 is actually more for the leaders than it is for the citizenry.

00:53:32.000 And so, and it's completely different.

00:53:35.000 And a very simple reading of Romans 13 says, Well, then we Christians should never get involved with challenging any levels of authority.

00:53:41.000 Hold on, it's who's the authority that we are.

00:53:44.000 They shouldn't ever get in the way of challenging us, the people that put them there.

00:53:48.000 See how it's completely different?

00:53:50.000 And so, because as it says in the chartering documents of the United States Constitution, never does any leader have a sovereign right to authority, no leader has penetrability to be removed, right?

00:54:03.000 And so, pastors with good intent use that piece of scripture, but it's a misapplication there.

00:54:10.000 And so, the other thing is this, which is how do you contest for these things?

00:54:15.000 And so, here's a really interesting thing: is that I think one of the misapplications of one of the they say, well, love other people how you want to be loved, right? 0.55

00:54:25.000 Well, I know for me personally, if I was doing something unbiblical, I'd want to be removed from office.

00:54:31.000 So, this idea that love other people the way you want to be treated or treat other people you want to be treated, or I'm paraphrasing Matthew 5, right? 0.98

00:54:37.000 But that's the essence of it.

00:54:38.000 Somehow, you must always be easy and soft on people.

00:54:42.000 I don't necessarily find that to be true.

00:54:44.000 In fact, first and foremost, if you use the logos, the commitment to truth, you should never have an elected official you are anything but true towards.

00:54:54.000 And if they're stepping out of line, imagine you would what would you want out of your people?

00:54:57.000 You'd want to be told the truth from your citizens, right?

00:55:01.000 And so, this idea that, well, treat other people you want to be treated.

00:55:04.000 Okay, I think it's fair to say that you don't want to physically retaliate against them.

00:55:07.000 I wouldn't want to be treated that way.

00:55:08.000 I wouldn't want to be treated unfairly.

00:55:11.000 So, don't do that.

00:55:12.000 But if that person's stepping out of line, wouldn't you want to be called out for that?

00:55:17.000 Of course you would.

00:55:18.000 And so I think that's a very important thought exercise because we take that verse and we assume that means automatic and total softness with every person we interact with.

00:55:28.000 I know for me personally, I prefer very firm, delivered truths over passively delivered lies.

00:55:35.000 I don't want to be treated that way.

00:55:36.000 Do you guys want to be treated that way?

00:55:38.000 When people lie to you, is that a good way to be treated?

00:55:40.000 And people just give you a pass for impropriety?

00:55:43.000 Of course not.

00:55:44.000 So I think that's a very interesting.

00:55:48.000 Typically, most churches don't go that deep, unfortunately.

00:55:51.000 In fact, I think it's a misreading of the scripture there.

00:55:56.000 Next question.

00:55:58.000 I'm happy to stay past 3:30.

00:56:00.000 This is not a question.

00:56:04.000 My name is Susie Curtin.

00:56:05.000 I want to say thank you for coming to Gillette.

00:56:08.000 Thank you.

00:56:09.000 I'm ecstatic that you're here.

00:56:11.000 Supposed to be coming tonight.

00:56:12.000 I don't know if I'm going to make it, so I popped in a little bit late.

00:56:16.000 But I want to say thank you.

00:56:18.000 I love what you're doing, you and Candace and Ben and all of that.

00:56:21.000 Thank you.

00:56:22.000 And last but not least, I absolutely love, love, love my president.

00:56:27.000 And I stick up for him every opportunity.

00:56:30.000 And just like you were quoting about Samson, I have a son that's 43, and you know, he's not a Trump lover.

00:56:37.000 And we have some pretty good debates, but what can I say?

00:56:42.000 I do support him, and I love what you're doing.

00:56:45.000 So thank you.

00:56:46.000 Thank you.

00:56:46.000 Appreciate it very much.

00:56:47.000 Thank you.

00:56:48.000 Other questions?

00:56:55.000 Hi, my name's What are we doing?

00:56:57.000 My name's Kale.

00:57:00.000 I love listening to your podcast, your videos, and all that.

00:57:04.000 I'm an also Bible-believing Christian, pretty conservative.

00:57:09.000 I just, so I also like engaging with my either atheist or very liberal Christian friends, you know, in talks and whatnot.

00:57:20.000 And I was just wondering what you thought of, like, okay, like recently I've seen, okay, so this whole white privilege thing.

00:57:29.000 And I think you and I have obviously the same thoughts on that.

00:57:32.000 But my question is, I've seen some pretty good points, and I just want to know what your thought was.

00:57:39.000 Like, so, for example, I've seen some of my friends post about, so that I think it was like that swimmer from Stanford.

00:57:47.000 Yeah.

00:57:47.000 You know, he only went to jail for like three months or something.

00:57:50.000 And then there's all these other stories of black people or whatever that are.

00:57:56.000 Let's start with that one.

00:57:57.000 So let's talk about it together.

00:57:58.000 Let's work through this, right?

00:58:00.000 So it's Brock Turner, Stanford, right?

00:58:02.000 They use this as an example of white privilege.

00:58:06.000 Why do you think he got off early?

00:58:08.000 I think it's because it's all about money and his parents are probably really rich.

00:58:12.000 I don't know.

00:58:12.000 So let's do this thought exercise.

00:58:15.000 Do you think if LeBron James' son was accused of that, you'd have similar types of attorneys?

00:58:20.000 Probably, yeah.

00:58:20.000 I think it's a money issue.

00:58:22.000 Right, right. 0.53

00:58:22.000 So maybe it's a wealth privilege, not a skin color privilege. 0.53

00:58:26.000 Yeah. 0.83

00:58:26.000 Okay, so like that's that's a really important one, right? 0.83

00:58:29.000 Because they say, Brock Turner, that's an example of white privilege.

00:58:32.000 Hold on a second.

00:58:34.000 It's disgusting he got off early, but let's look deeper.

00:58:38.000 He had a platoon of attorneys that cost $3,000 an hour each that were filing motions and cross-examinations.

00:58:44.000 I've known the judge for 30 years. 0.60

00:58:46.000 Did he get that because he was white?

00:58:48.000 Do you think that a kid from rural West Virginia whose family is a broken family and his dad might be addicted to opioids and they're earning $32,000 a year and a coal mine just got shut down, you think he can afford the same attorneys as Brock Turner?

00:59:00.000 Or do you think LeBron James, who's worth $600 million and to sign another $100 million contract, do you think the LeBron James kids got in trouble?

00:59:07.000 Do you think that they'd have good representation?

00:59:08.000 Do you think Oprah Winfrey's kids, if she had any, or loved ones, would be treated the same way?

00:59:15.000 Do you think that Denzel Washington's kids would be treated that way?

00:59:17.000 I'll call him Powell, kind of Lisa Rice.

00:59:20.000 And so they use that example commonly.

00:59:24.000 And it has nothing to do with the kids' skin color.

00:59:26.000 In fact, that's a racist reading into that story.

00:59:28.000 Okay.

00:59:29.000 What's the next one?

00:59:29.000 Let's work through this.

00:59:31.000 So it kind of goes along the same lines.

00:59:32.000 They oppose, like, okay, so Tamir Rice was a young kid that was, you know, fatally shot.

00:59:40.000 They bring up a lot of cases where the black person was obviously innocent or whatever.

00:59:45.000 And then they'll say, but look at the Aurora movie theater shooter, that Dylan Roof or whatever and the shot of the black church and all these white.

00:59:55.000 You know, and I'm not saying I'm like on the liberal side or anything. 0.64

00:59:59.000 I'm just kind of plain devil's advocate a little bit to hear your point.

01:00:02.000 Yeah. 0.61

01:00:02.000 So I was just wondering what you thought, because they'll say, oh, all these white people shoot masses of people, but then they just get calmly arrested. 0.61

01:00:10.000 And I just want to know about your point. 0.54

01:00:12.000 I don't think that's trying not to say shooters' names, but I don't think that the Columbine shooters and the Charleston shooters were calmly arrested.

01:00:22.000 I think they were quickly killed in the instant of them doing it.

01:00:25.000 And so, but then also it begs the question: why were they doing that?

01:00:29.000 They weren't doing it by racial motivation.

01:00:32.000 They were doing it because of sick and twisted misinterpretation of, first of all, an undiagnosed mental health illness, coupled with what I think an over-push of psychiatric drugs, and a third element of total, complete social isolation and all that combined.

01:00:48.000 So here's the interesting thing, though, is that what they're trying to say, though, is, oh, these people treat them differently than other people.

01:00:56.000 If that was the case, if that was really the case, then, and we just completely treated black deaths as tragedies as they are, then my goodness, last week in Chicago would be one of the greatest moral outrages in the history of our country: 120 people shot, 40 people killed, and two kids under the age of six that were killed, or under the age of 10, two infants and toddlers.

01:01:18.000 And so it also begs the question: so, let's just look at statistics: where are, who, who in America are actually committing the most amount of homicides? 0.75

01:01:26.000 Despite being 14% of the population, black individuals, 6% being males, 58% of all homicides are committed by black men in America.

01:01:35.000 Now, the main reason is not because they're black, that's not what I'm saying, it's because 77% of black males are raised without a father in the home. 0.88

01:01:42.000 So, it's really two-parent privilege.

01:01:44.000 And here's a really interesting way to break it apart: Do you know what a lot of those school shooters had in common?

01:01:48.000 They did not grow into a parent household.

01:01:50.000 In fact, they grew up alone.

01:01:51.000 It's interesting, there's a direct correlation between the indulgence into violence and not having a father in the home.

01:01:58.000 And I actually attribute a lot of this to the hyper-feminization of America, which has created a culture where men completely abdicate authority.

01:02:07.000 They withdraw from ever having to raise the child.

01:02:10.000 The government comes in, and women metaphorically marry the government instead of marrying a man. 0.61

01:02:15.000 And so, here's the way that you can debunk all this: is that a white child who's raised by just a single mother, by the way, single mothers are heroes.

01:02:22.000 I'm not diminishing them at all.

01:02:24.000 I'm just talking about data and statistics and the ideal, especially the biblical ideal, or a black child raised by a mother and father, the black child is statistically far more likely to succeed in every single metric you can gather than a single mother individual raising a white child. 0.51

01:02:42.000 So, it's actually two-parent privilege that we have in America that we should be talking about. 0.52

01:02:46.000 When you all of a sudden break it apart racial lines and you go two-parent privilege, it goes absolutely upside down.

01:02:51.000 Now, certain cultures have a lot different disparities with, let's just say, marriage rates than others.

01:02:59.000 And there's a lot of different reasons for that.

01:03:00.000 But there was one other point you wanted to make.

01:03:02.000 Was there one other one you wanted to digress?

01:03:03.000 That was just kind of, that was pretty much.

01:03:06.000 But let's like, I'll summarize this.

01:03:08.000 And so white privilege, the idea of white privilege and categorizing people on the melanin in their skin is the opposite of the Christian ethic.

01:03:14.000 It's the opposite, where we're all made in the image of God.

01:03:17.000 You all have an independent journey that you must make, a salvation that you must have with Christ.

01:03:23.000 Right?

01:03:23.000 That your mother can't save you from your sin, that your grandfather can't save you from your sin.

01:03:28.000 These are all Christian ideas.

01:03:29.000 Mind you, thousands of years ago, this was not believed.

01:03:32.000 In fact, it was believed in Aztec or Incan or Egyptian culture that your bloodline would dictate your future, that you would be banished for generations if you did something bad, that your kids and your grandkids and five generations later will have almost karmic blood guilt.

01:03:46.000 It was the Christian idea and ethic that liberated you from all of that.

01:03:50.000 It was like, no, no, no, it doesn't matter what your father did or good or bad.

01:03:52.000 Like, if your father's a good guy, he won't get you to heaven.

01:03:55.000 If your father's a bad guy, that doesn't mean you have to go to hell.

01:03:57.000 And so we've built an entire civilization around this idea called America.

01:04:01.000 That you can do whatever you want.

01:04:03.000 It doesn't matter if your father's the worst person or the best person.

01:04:06.000 What are you going to do?

01:04:07.000 What decisions are you going to make?

01:04:09.000 That what preceded you is not your destiny.

01:04:12.000 And you only have that because the Bible, that great leap forward that we all take for granted, there was no guarantee that that was going to happen.

01:04:19.000 You know why?

01:04:20.000 Let's look at other countries that didn't have it.

01:04:21.000 Go to India. 0.58

01:04:23.000 In India, where you are born basically determines your future. 0.98

01:04:27.000 And as Christianity spreads, you're actually starting to see that kind of disrupt. 0.93

01:04:30.000 But in the Hindu culture, religiously, the caste system dictates the future of all 1.2 billion people. 0.91

01:04:36.000 You are born in a certain caste. 0.97

01:04:38.000 It's the way your fathers were. 0.62

01:04:39.000 God put you in that way, or what they believe is a Hindu god's polytheistic belief.

01:04:44.000 You can't break out of it.

01:04:45.000 Christianity rejects that. 1.00

01:04:47.000 And that's actually why you see the most Christian conversions in India happening in what I believe they call the untouchables, which is the lowest class in India.

01:04:55.000 Because they're like, well, you're trying to tell me I can be something more than just what I've been for the last 10 generations? 0.99

01:05:00.000 It's a message of hope and of optimism and faith and forgiveness.

01:05:03.000 Everything the left is talking about is opposite of that.

01:05:06.000 And so the just kind of close the point on white privilege, I highly encourage every single person to reject it completely because I want to be a country that judges people on character and worldview, not skin color.

01:05:17.000 Our descent back into thousands of year old tribalism is so incredibly regressive and also very dangerous for a society.

01:05:25.000 I just have two quick more.

01:05:29.000 First one is, have you seen, it's a movie on Netflix.

01:05:34.000 I have to finish it today.

01:05:35.000 It was 13th.

01:05:37.000 No, I haven't.

01:05:38.000 I've heard about it, but no, I haven't.

01:05:39.000 I just wondered.

01:05:40.000 Then my other question was, slid my mind.

01:05:46.000 That's okay.

01:05:47.000 I can close the point and we'll go to another question while we're handing off to atheism because you mentioned atheism.

01:05:53.000 I have a lot of fun with atheists.

01:05:54.000 And by the way, atheism is the fastest growing religion in America.

01:05:57.000 It's not Christianity.

01:05:58.000 So more people are giving their lives to nothingness than to Christ.

01:06:01.000 And it's because atheists are far more committed.

01:06:03.000 They're more persuasive evangelists than we Christians are.

01:06:07.000 I've been on more college camps than you can imagine.

01:06:09.000 The Christian groups kind of hide in their own little quarter and they're afraid of the backlash and the controversy.

01:06:14.000 The atheist groups scream from the rooftop, come with me, and believe that nothing is nothing and we're all nothing together.

01:06:19.000 And so I always have fun with them because I go up to them and I say, first of all, so why do you care? 0.80

01:06:25.000 Like, I'm always very confused because why do you actually try to make converts?

01:06:30.000 Because you guys got like 41 years and seven days left and we're all just dust particles.

01:06:34.000 Go live it up, right?

01:06:34.000 Like go indulge in your hedonistic worldview because for you, it's just a maximization of your earthly happiness, right?

01:06:40.000 So their commitment to making other people believe in nothingness is very perplexing to me.

01:06:45.000 The second thing that really bothers them and just a great talking point is about God, there would be no atheists.

01:06:50.000 Perfect opening shot, right?

01:06:52.000 To try to tell them that without God, you wouldn't have the ability to believe in nothing.

01:06:56.000 And then, also to go deeper, is the most important question an atheist can answer.

01:07:00.000 And I've seen very viral videos around this that have gone millions and millions of views, which just ask them the very simple question, do you hope you're wrong?

01:07:07.000 Because a good truth-seeking atheist should say, yes, I hope I'm wrong.

01:07:11.000 If an atheist says, no, I hope I'm right, that means they believe in something that's awful over something that might be true.

01:07:18.000 And therefore, most young people believe in atheism because it makes you into your own God.

01:07:22.000 It's very appealing for a person that wants to drink what they want to drink, have whatever indulgence they want, anytime, at any place.

01:07:28.000 So, the most important thing in the world that turns you into almost a deification of the individual, especially when you're 19 years old, it's very tempting.

01:07:34.000 The reason why we're seeing all this happen in the culture in the country is the church has not been bold enough to spread the gospel.

01:07:40.000 In fact, we should be putting atheism on trial in our country. 0.98

01:07:43.000 And young Christians are completely ill-equipped in apologetics. 1.00

01:07:47.000 They have no idea of the ontological arguments for God, the idea of the metaphysical arguments for God. 0.99

01:07:52.000 And then guess what?

01:07:53.000 They go to campuses and they either don't believe in God at all or they end up becoming, you know, just kind of passive Christians and they deviate away from the church.

01:08:04.000 I'll ask.

01:08:05.000 Yeah, sure.

01:08:08.000 And all this will be put on YouTube as well.

01:08:10.000 So we'll happy to put all this up there.

01:08:13.000 I think you just answered my question.

01:08:17.000 I really appreciate that you do go to college campuses.

01:08:20.000 I just had a conversation with a young woman who goes to a liberal arts college and engaged in one of the recent protests.

01:08:28.000 And I think what my response was to her was that I don't, my belief system is such that I do not believe change warrants or is justified by violence and destruction of property.

01:08:45.000 And man, did she come back with this list of things that was like from a brochure or a professor or something?

01:08:53.000 And my question would be, how, you already just said it, I think, but how do you counteract that type of belief system that's being talked to our young people?

01:09:04.000 Because it's been going on for years.

01:09:06.000 Yeah, well, first of all, the people that are advocating for violence, and it's very interesting, and destruction, I always say, destroy your house first and go destroy somebody else's.

01:09:15.000 In order to be morally and logically consistent, once you burn your own house down, then fine, go burn someone else's down.

01:09:21.000 Okay, I mean, seriously.

01:09:22.000 And by the way, I think this whole like stay-at-home movement, it should apply especially to the arsonists because then they go destroy all their own homes.

01:09:29.000 But then they use these ridiculous misapplications of history.

01:09:32.000 They say, well, the best kind of change always comes with violent retaliation.

01:09:36.000 Well, first of all, if you're talking about the Boston Tea Party, that was an act of war against the British Commonwealth.

01:09:42.000 So if what you're doing right now, if you're admitting you're an act of war, I'll have the FBI visit you tomorrow and you're going to get arrested.

01:09:47.000 Okay?

01:09:47.000 So you can't have it both ways.

01:09:48.000 You can't say this is a protest or it's an act of war, right?

01:09:51.000 Because if you aren't saying it's an act of war, you're going to end with the full fury and wrath of the Department of Justice.

01:09:56.000 Like, that's the first thing.

01:09:57.000 The second thing is that's just not true.

01:10:00.000 Look, Henry David Thoreau wrote the book Civil Disobedience, and it is the best way to effectuate change is actually through civilly disobeying, taking the punishment.

01:10:08.000 Letters from our Birmingham jail, what Gandhi did.

01:10:11.000 They don't want that. 0.99

01:10:12.000 They're all cowards. 0.98

01:10:13.000 They want to not go to jail, want to get bailed out of that, want no responsibility. 0.98

01:10:16.000 If you're an actual protester, if they really believe in what they were doing, they'd be willing to serve whatever sentence was given to them and then make a point out of it without ever retaliating against it.

01:10:24.000 But that's not them.

01:10:25.000 Instead, they want to be civil arsonists and burn down our entire country.

01:10:30.000 It's what they're on pace for.

01:10:31.000 And then what's so amazing to me is that you have these political elites that don't even mention it, by the way.

01:10:36.000 Like, oh, it's whatever.

01:10:37.000 It's kind of a one-off thing.

01:10:40.000 You think that they're going to stop?

01:10:41.000 Like, you think they're going to stop?

01:10:43.000 Like, think of this logically.

01:10:44.000 You think they're going to stop at the statue of George Washington, which, by the way, has been taken down in Portland and not going back up?

01:10:49.000 You think they're going to stop at the statue of Abraham Lincoln, which is going down in Boston and not going back up?

01:10:54.000 And that should bother, like that, that alone should bother you.

01:10:56.000 But now they're going after statues of Christ.

01:10:58.000 They're going after burning down churches.

01:11:00.000 And people are like, well, we just got to get it out of their system and their steam.

01:11:04.000 First of all, anyone who believes in that doesn't understand how mobs work, doesn't understand how children work.

01:11:08.000 And that's actually a really important point: is that if you actually look at what this is, it is the infantilization of America.

01:11:14.000 It is a return back to something is better about being a child than being an adult.

01:11:20.000 And the romantics got this all wrong in the 1800s.

01:11:22.000 And there's some stuff that they got right, but it's almost like, yes, the innocence of being able to destroy and flow through the world.

01:11:28.000 You think I'm kidding?

01:11:28.000 This is what they, if you send your kid to college, is what they're going to learn.

01:11:31.000 Just read Rousseau.

01:11:32.000 He said, we can learn so much from children.

01:11:34.000 They're perfect from birth.

01:11:35.000 And we need to get our country, we need to get our civilizations back to that.

01:11:38.000 No, seriously.

01:11:38.000 This is what, and by the way, what I love about this whole thing is they say, oh, yeah, children are good from birth.

01:11:42.000 Like, why do you have to teach them goodness? 0.65

01:11:44.000 Like, I mean, if they're so good, why do you have this is the greatest way for young parents that believe this nonsense that are marching to Black Lives Matter stuff.

01:11:54.000 And I've communicated with some of them.

01:11:55.000 They say, well, my, you know, children are great, you know, from birth and blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:59.000 And I say, okay, well, you're a young parent.

01:12:00.000 I say, you ever have a kid manipulate the mother and the father against each other?

01:12:04.000 They say, oh, yeah.

01:12:05.000 Did you teach them that?

01:12:07.000 No?

01:12:07.000 Where the heck did they get it from?

01:12:09.000 Like, I mean, right?

01:12:10.000 So that's a very simple example, right?

01:12:12.000 Where they turn the mom against the dad.

01:12:14.000 It's almost like manipulation is built into us as human beings.

01:12:19.000 Sin is built into us as human beings.

01:12:21.000 That's why we need redemption.

01:12:23.000 Next question.

01:12:24.000 Oh, okay.

01:12:25.000 Carly.

01:12:25.000 Hi.

01:12:26.000 I'm Heinek Gross.

01:12:27.000 Thanks for being here.

01:12:27.000 I watch Fox News all the time.

01:12:29.000 Thank you.

01:12:31.000 I probably have more of a comment than a question.

01:12:33.000 I'm just wondering what your thoughts are about the Republican Party.

01:12:38.000 They've been just like nowhere in the midst of all of this craziness the last two weeks.

01:12:43.000 And it scares me to death because of everything that's going on in our country right now.

01:12:49.000 And I feel like the BLM, which when I hear that, I always think Bureau of Land Management.

01:12:55.000 So that tells you we're not going to be able to do that.

01:12:57.000 That's a familiar line in the West.

01:12:58.000 That's because I'm in the West.

01:13:00.000 So it scares me so much to think of what the power that they seem to have right now.

01:13:06.000 And of course, they're in bed with the Democratic Party.

01:13:09.000 And I'm wondering who is going to speak out.

01:13:12.000 And I just feel like President Trump is the only one that is trying to do anything.

01:13:17.000 And I'm just frustrated with where is the rest of the Republican Party on all of this.

01:13:23.000 Yeah, I mean, look, one of the great things that's happening right now is it's bringing the words to the surface, right?

01:13:29.000 And I'm a huge supporter of the president.

01:13:31.000 I'm a constitutional conservative, so I'm obviously ideologically more inclined to support Republicans.

01:13:37.000 But I've been saying for years that the Republican Party is absolutely the problem.

01:13:42.000 And I mean, and people say, ah, you don't know about that.

01:13:44.000 And by the way, it's not like they can't fight.

01:13:46.000 They fought during Kavanaugh, and God bless them for fighting during Kavanaugh.

01:13:49.000 And by the way, that only exposed that they can do it.

01:13:52.000 So we know it's in their fighters somewhere.

01:13:54.000 Like what they did in Kavanaugh when Lindsey Graham started getting angry, and Susan Collins was great.

01:13:58.000 Like, where is that?

01:13:59.000 Like, why are you guys not drawing the lines?

01:14:01.000 By the way, the country is more important than a Supreme Court justice, right?

01:14:05.000 And so, look, I'm not going to say any names, but I have to be careful the way I say this, but just ask yourselves the question: like, why is the most conservative state with your lawmakers?

01:14:15.000 Like, where are they?

01:14:17.000 Like, just add that, that's just a fair question, right?

01:14:20.000 I mean, our country is burning.

01:14:21.000 Our kids are getting, I cannot communicate to you the cultural crisis that we're in.

01:14:26.000 I mean, I just hosted an event with 3,300 kids, and then, I mean, they know what's coming.

01:14:31.000 The kids get it, actually.

01:14:33.000 The students do because they're interacting on social media.

01:14:35.000 They see the people losing their jobs.

01:14:37.000 They see the sports announcers losing their jobs because they say all lives matter.

01:14:40.000 They're seeing the information flow that even the older generation isn't seeing as much.

01:14:44.000 And if you want to see the sense of urgency, go to the young people in this room, even.

01:14:49.000 And I'll tell you, like, this is not coming back.

01:14:52.000 And like, I talked to some of these senators.

01:14:53.000 I was saying names, like, oh, no, this is going to be okay.

01:14:56.000 It's, you know, we're fighting.

01:14:57.000 I'm like, okay, I hope you guys are okay with the stance that you've taken.

01:15:03.000 I'm not going to say any names and all that.

01:15:04.000 You guys can figure it out yourself.

01:15:05.000 But yeah, I mean, look, we have Trump.

01:15:07.000 We have a couple other people that are terrific.

01:15:09.000 We have Tom Cotton.

01:15:11.000 We have Matt Gates, but it's few and far between.

01:15:13.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:15:14.000 In fact, some of them think that this is going to help them politically.

01:15:17.000 Like, some of them are like, yeah, this is a good thing.

01:15:18.000 Don't you see the poll numbers?

01:15:19.000 And I'm like, yeah, they're actually not good.

01:15:22.000 So, yeah, look, I hope this is a wake-up call for all you guys that do not put your trust in politicians.

01:15:27.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:15:28.000 That is a huge mistake.

01:15:30.000 You guys are going to be very, very underwhelmed by that.

01:15:33.000 Put your trust in irrefutable, timeless truths and principles and advocate for them.

01:15:38.000 And if certain parties can help, the Democrat Party is not even worth a conversation, right?

01:15:43.000 But yes, the answer is, I mean, does anyone else feel like the Republican Party's missed the mark the last couple of weeks?

01:15:47.000 I think that's pretty a fair estimation.

01:15:50.000 And we're fighting out here alone.

01:15:52.000 I mean, it was really interesting.

01:15:54.000 We hosted the president this big event.

01:15:56.000 We had four speakers on stage.

01:15:58.000 And if you watch the video, I encourage you.

01:16:01.000 These are 18 and 19-year-olds that are like so unbelievably, I'm going to use a word you guys don't know, based.

01:16:07.000 Like they were so, like, they come up on stage, right?

01:16:10.000 And the media couldn't believe it.

01:16:12.000 And I saw that there were senators in the room and they were like, what?

01:16:14.000 They're like, we're losing our country.

01:16:16.000 Our generation is going to burn it down to the ground if the party doesn't help.

01:16:19.000 And there were two senators up in the room.

01:16:22.000 I was like, you hear that?

01:16:22.000 They're like, yeah, I don't really see it that way.

01:16:25.000 I'm like, yeah, things must be great in the kingdom of Washington, D.C. Can you bring some back of that wherever you are here?

01:16:32.000 Because we're in the middle of a culture war and you guys are totally disconnected.

01:16:36.000 So, yeah, put your trust.

01:16:40.000 I mean, Trump's all we got, to be honest.

01:16:41.000 It's like Trump versus the world.

01:16:43.000 It really is.

01:16:44.000 And could you imagine a country where they take down statues of Washington and Lincoln and the Republican Party is basically like issuing press releases?

01:16:52.000 That's basically what they're doing.

01:16:54.000 They're like, oh, yeah, that's a man.

01:16:57.000 That's not in my DNA, right?

01:16:59.000 So, I mean, people say, well, what are we supposed to do?

01:17:01.000 How about this?

01:17:02.000 You take down one statue, we're going to put up two others.

01:17:04.000 How about that?

01:17:05.000 We are going to have a concerted campaign.

01:17:08.000 If you get near a statue, we are going to film your face and submit it to local authorities and make sure you're arrested.

01:17:13.000 We are going to sit outside of the homes of the people that finance and fund these things.

01:17:18.000 Like, this is not in our DNA, right?

01:17:19.000 Like, we as conservatives, we're so decent.

01:17:21.000 Like, I don't like it.

01:17:22.000 It's like, well, okay, well, then we're going to lose our country.

01:17:25.000 So it's that simple.

01:17:27.000 And it's the younger generation that's the one that's like, you guys don't know how bad it is.

01:17:32.000 Like, I can't say, I have it right here.

01:17:36.000 One race, the human race, gets you expelled from the University of California system saying that.

01:17:41.000 That there's only one race to the human race.

01:17:42.000 That's considered racist.

01:17:44.000 Showing them, flying an American flag at the University of California, Irvine, gets you kicked off campus.

01:17:49.000 It's a symbol of hate speech.

01:17:50.000 So, yeah, I wish I could give you good news.

01:17:54.000 But here's the good news: that there's a new generation.

01:17:57.000 This last week, a friend of mine, 24 years old, paraplegic, super conservative guy, won a surprise primary.

01:18:03.000 He's going to be the youngest member of Congress since the 1830s in Western North Carolina, Madison Cawthorne.

01:18:08.000 He's a friend of mine.

01:18:10.000 And he gets it.

01:18:11.000 I'll tell you.

01:18:12.000 This guy ran on, regulated the tech companies.

01:18:14.000 He ran on all the good stuff.

01:18:16.000 And yeah, look, so people said, what's your hope?

01:18:19.000 What's all this?

01:18:19.000 First of all, we have, you know, we have truth, we have optimism, all this.

01:18:22.000 But I think we need to really be honest that this is a huge missed opportunity.

01:18:25.000 What bothers me the most is like, what a great time to teach Americans about America.

01:18:31.000 Right?

01:18:31.000 Like, I sat down with senators last week, I don't say any names, and I walked them through this stuff.

01:18:36.000 I'm like, why have you not mentioned that first state abolished slavery in 1777?

01:18:41.000 Why have you not managed it where you're founded as an anti-slavery party, all this sort of stuff?

01:18:44.000 They're like, well, I think it could come across as racist and I might lose my reelection.

01:18:48.000 I'm like, well, that's all.

01:18:48.000 Like, you're afraid of being called meat names.

01:18:50.000 The most important thing for you is losing re-election.

01:18:53.000 Next question.

01:18:56.000 Mom, ma'am. 1.00

01:18:58.000 Oh, awesome.

01:18:58.000 All right, cool.

01:19:00.000 So I have two kind of clap each other, but something like you said a minute ago, man, I was talking to a girl or chatting with a young person from another part of the state.

01:19:08.000 And she was saying that I asked her, you know, what are you going to do?

01:19:12.000 She's like, depending on the rioters and everything.

01:19:13.000 And I said, well, what are we going to do if they come to your house?

01:19:16.000 What if they burn your business in your home?

01:19:18.000 And she said, as you know, I think, I mean, anybody can change and believe that description should be prayer for change for anybody.

01:19:24.000 My second question later off that.

01:19:28.000 And that's why I was talking to her.

01:19:30.000 She said, I have an obligation as a white person to let my house be burnt down for racial justice.

01:19:35.000 I don't even talk with someone like that.

01:19:38.000 Well, I mean, that's where prayer comes in, honestly.

01:19:42.000 Supernatural delivery is.

01:19:44.000 And I do believe in that.

01:19:46.000 The Holy Spirit go to work. 1.00

01:19:49.000 Yeah, I mean, that's foolish, beyond foolish. 0.99

01:19:52.000 And here's the other thing: what's so sick, and this is why I'm just so upset because, like, since when is like every white person that's ever existed in this country the problem? 0.99

01:20:00.000 Like, I get it that there's plenty of people in the South that did unspeakable sins.

01:20:05.000 But let's be very clear.

01:20:06.000 I'm going to say this right now.

01:20:07.000 Anyone who owns slaves today in America, or even knows anyone that owns slaves that's okay with it, should go to jail.

01:20:14.000 Anyone?

01:20:15.000 Okay, let's start there.

01:20:16.000 How about anyone that knew anyone that owned slaves in America?

01:20:19.000 No?

01:20:20.000 Okay.

01:20:21.000 The point being is this: we're so far generationally disconnected from this.

01:20:25.000 But let's be even more specific.

01:20:26.000 And people come up to me and they, just from my own family history, right?

01:20:32.000 My great uncle, seven generations removed, fought for the union cause in the North.

01:20:36.000 Plenty of ancestors in America have that same connection.

01:20:39.000 So there should be an apology.

01:20:42.000 There should be like, oh, wow, like, thanks for fighting for what was good, right?

01:20:45.000 But by the way, here's the interesting thing: I'm not a good or bad person because of that, though.

01:20:50.000 That's a very important point.

01:20:51.000 I'm proud of it.

01:20:53.000 But now I have to make my own life, regardless if someone seven generations before me was like an awesome person or not an awesome person.

01:21:00.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:21:01.000 Like, that's actually completely irrelevant to my life story, except for the fact that they are trying to judge me on blood guilt, right?

01:21:08.000 The second thing is this: racial justice.

01:21:11.000 So, somehow, there's an idea that destruction brings about good things.

01:21:17.000 But what makes it what always made America different is that we're a frontier nation.

01:21:21.000 That when you build something new, that is something that is good.

01:21:27.000 And so, yet now we have this old French Revolution mentality.

01:21:31.000 It's very Robespierre. 0.90

01:21:32.000 Like, now is the time to burn down the sins of a generation of past.

01:21:37.000 Like, you've got a lot of burning to do, man, because this country is actually pretty freaking awesome built by the people before you. 0.68

01:21:43.000 And I mean this in the most unracial way imaginable, but we should be proud of what was built before us. 0.83

01:21:50.000 Like, very proud of what was built before us.

01:21:52.000 In fact, we should protect it.

01:21:55.000 And this whole thing that we should be apologetic of people like there were 150 years.

01:22:00.000 Like, no.

01:22:00.000 Like, our ancestors sacrificed so much.

01:22:03.000 Like, you know how hard it was to go west in the 1800s?

01:22:06.000 You guys probably have heard stories to Homestead.

01:22:09.000 That's not something that should be taken lightly.

01:22:12.000 And again, you have to make your own life as a basis of that.

01:22:15.000 But for someone to say something like that, I don't wish that their home to be burned, but if it was to be burned, their foolishness would probably warrant something like that.

01:22:23.000 Again, I don't wish it upon them.

01:22:25.000 So, do you have another follow-up on that?

01:22:26.000 Yeah, it's sort of, I don't know, same attention to it or you talk about infiltration in churches and Marxist stuff getting the churches.

01:22:34.000 And talking about people who change is a woman, I don't know if you're Bella, but she was a woman, she was a communist organizer, and she became a Catholic through Trails on Hillibrand and Dietrich Hillbrand.

01:22:48.000 But anyway, she, after she converted, she said explicitly that she had, they were questioning like, how can this stuff be happening in the church?

01:22:57.000 It's so unchristian, what's going on?

01:22:59.000 The church is very Marxist.

01:23:01.000 And she would get silent, and then she said, well, when I was a communist, we infiltrated the churches.

01:23:09.000 We found young men, mostly atheists, often homosexuals, to infiltrate thousands of them, mostly South American seminaries, South Transparency seminaries.

01:23:18.000 And that's what led to a lot of the crisis in the Catholic Church. 0.90

01:23:22.000 And Catholic is the biggest target.

01:23:25.000 And then the literal mainland Protestant churches are software targets.

01:23:28.000 They fell way quicker and way easier. 0.74

01:23:31.000 But the Catholic Church is the biggest target. 0.97

01:23:33.000 We can see that today in the Catholic Church.

01:23:35.000 I think, I mean, just recently looking, I see a lot of it in a lot of local churches in this country. 0.91

01:23:41.000 And so I wondered what would be your advice to, especially the M Global groups that haven't had so much until very recently to stop that. 0.97

01:23:49.000 Well, so first of all, it starts with all of you. 0.99

01:23:51.000 Remember, if you want to change the world, change everything you're doing in your own life.

01:23:55.000 Live out the truth.

01:23:56.000 Never tell a lie.

01:23:57.000 And so instead of let's blaming the institution, let's talk about what everyone in this room can do.

01:24:02.000 The fact that this church has hosted me, this church is worthy of your support.

01:24:05.000 I hope there's other churches like this in the area, but I put my full name behind it.

01:24:08.000 It's a big deal.

01:24:09.000 It really is, because I know this is a little bit different of an area that most in the country is probably more conservative than not.

01:24:15.000 But people say, well, Charlie, I'm really trying to change my pastor.

01:24:20.000 And he worked the other day.

01:24:21.000 I'm like, well, where's the line?

01:24:23.000 Black Lives Matter on their website says they want to destroy the Western prescribed nuclear families on their website. 0.96

01:24:28.000 They want to legalize sex work. 0.89

01:24:29.000 They want to double the amount of abortions.

01:24:31.000 They want to abolish police and abolish prisons.

01:24:33.000 That's what your pastor is wearing to church.

01:24:38.000 Probably inconsistent with like seven out of ten of the Ten Commandments and like all of Matthew 5, right?

01:24:43.000 So it's like, right, at what point do you think that it's probably not good to be doing that?

01:24:47.000 And the problem with the left is I've got to give them credit is their messaging is phenomenal because they picked a name of a movement that is in itself the name is true.

01:24:55.000 Of course, Black Lives Matter, all lives matter.

01:24:57.000 I mean, so they choose that. 0.98

01:24:58.000 So therefore, any disagreement would take a very, much more sophisticated argument, right?

01:25:03.000 It'd be like, well, that's what the organizational is not what they're going.

01:25:05.000 But most, unfortunately, the way conversation happens, it's like, oh, that's it.

01:25:09.000 That's the summary of all of it.

01:25:09.000 That's a statement.

01:25:12.000 And that's too bad because, and they're phenomenal at being able to message in that way.

01:25:17.000 And so the final point I'll say about churches in general is that you look at the money trail, you look at the gospel coalition, you look at George Soros.

01:25:25.000 They're pumping in tens of millions of dollars funding Christians every single year, Christian pastors, funding churches, funding groups that are working to teach the gospel incorrectly.

01:25:35.000 And so I highly encourage all of you guys to follow the money because a lot of Christian ink out there is funded heavily by the left-wing sub-socialist atheist secular forces.

01:25:45.000 And as I said before, this entity, the church, was always the reason why we did not go the way of other socialist revolutions, right?

01:25:52.000 It was the church because it was a weekly, if not bi-weekly, if not daily gathering of moral believers that had a commitment to what was true.

01:26:01.000 Therefore, when something that was untrue came into the world, they would say, well, let's work this out as a congregation, right?

01:26:07.000 Like, is it a good idea to follow someone like Lenin?

01:26:11.000 Probably not, right?

01:26:12.000 And so the church was always kind of that foundation.

01:26:15.000 And our country was founded on churches. 0.69

01:26:17.000 Our revolution against the Britons was organized in the pews of churches. 0.70

01:26:21.000 And then one of these other pernicious lies, how many of you have heard of separation of church and state, right?

01:26:25.000 You've heard of this.

01:26:26.000 It's not in the Constitution anywhere.

01:26:28.000 It doesn't exist.

01:26:29.000 It was a singular letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention.

01:26:33.000 And it's even misinterpreted in the context of what he said.

01:26:35.000 Thomas Jefferson had local churches performing ceremonies and musical performances in the building of the Supreme Court.

01:26:44.000 I mean, the early founders were all Bible-believing Christians, and people said, well, they were deists.

01:26:48.000 Okay, well, you could be a Christian and also have started as a deist.

01:26:52.000 There were different variations of Christians, but let's start with George Washington.

01:26:55.000 He was a devout, Bible-carrying Anglican Christian.

01:26:59.000 Abraham Lincoln read the Bible every single night before he went to bed, and he said it was the most instructive piece of literature that inspired him to eradicate slavery.

01:27:07.000 Thaddeus Stevens, the absolute abolitionist in the 1860s and 70s, used the Bible as the main reason why he believed in the eradication and the abolition of slavery.

01:27:17.000 And so the church and America have been so intertwined throughout.

01:27:23.000 And then what happened in the 1960s and 70s, you had a hyper-humanist secularization movement that came in where we got rid of prayer in schools, we legalized abortion, and young kids said they wanted the sexual revolution.

01:27:34.000 And you kind of can see where that led us.

01:27:36.000 You know, 50% divorce rates, 55% fatherlessness rates in certain communities, 77% the black community, and we're more miserable than ever before, right?

01:27:45.000 So you actually think to yourself, my goodness, has that made America more equitable and fair?

01:27:50.000 And of course not.

01:27:51.000 Because we've deviated from the Bible, right?

01:27:51.000 I mean, because why?

01:27:53.000 It's not that hard to figure out.

01:27:55.000 And I always say, if you choose to sin, you choose to suffer, right?

01:27:58.000 Like the rules aren't there to make sure you have an awful life.

01:28:02.000 It's not like God told you not to lie because he hated you.

01:28:05.000 That's a very important thing to communicate to young audiences.

01:28:08.000 I speech speak at youth groups.

01:28:10.000 And we always, not always, but most churches teach them in such a legalistic lens, like you're going to burn eternally if you don't do these things.

01:28:16.000 And that may or may not be true.

01:28:18.000 And I don't think that's necessarily theologically true.

01:28:21.000 However, what's a better way to say, like, you understand if you violate these, you're going to be a miserable person.

01:28:26.000 Like, if you follow the Ten Commandments, you're actually going to have more fulfillment.

01:28:30.000 You're going to be more content.

01:28:31.000 You're going to have more peace with yourself.

01:28:33.000 And if you follow the teachings of Christ, you don't tell lies.

01:28:35.000 It's actually a very helpful tool to live a good life, right?

01:28:40.000 If you honor your mother and father, if you honor the true father, and I think we've gotten away from that in a lot of different ways where we have allowed the culture to pose us as, if you follow these things, you're going to have an awful life.

01:28:54.000 And again, that should be the only communication tool we have because obviously there's a more important purpose to what we're doing.

01:28:59.000 But I think that's also highly instructive and very important.

01:29:01.000 So happy to answer other questions if you guys have them.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, there's one up here.

01:29:07.000 A couple more.

01:29:08.000 I can go to like four or 415.

01:29:11.000 And we'll post this whole thing on YouTube, which millions of people will be blessed by this, by the way.

01:29:15.000 So my podcast is doing well.

01:29:18.000 Praise God.

01:29:19.000 Yeah.

01:29:19.000 Well, hello.

01:29:20.000 Thank you very much for having me.

01:29:21.000 We really do appreciate having you here.

01:29:23.000 I never thought I'd see the likes of you in small towns.

01:29:25.000 Oh, is that right?

01:29:26.000 Maybe in the middle of nowhere.

01:29:27.000 My name is Joel Marquis, and I want to give you a little bit of hope.

01:29:30.000 There are some of us, like myself, running for commissioner.

01:29:32.000 Well, I hope you win.

01:29:33.000 I don't know you, but I hope you win.

01:29:34.000 Well, I am a conservative Christian, and I really do appreciate your viewpoints on things.

01:29:39.000 I'd say, for the most part, I haven't heard you say a single thing I disagree with.

01:29:44.000 But as somebody that is running for office, what would be your advice for reaching our audiences out there, for convincing them that this really is a war for our minds, for our culture, for our hearts?

01:29:57.000 I need to start fighting it now.

01:29:59.000 I have a contrarian view on this, which I actually think that when you run for office, you should care more about saying things that are true than winning.

01:30:08.000 And that's a very contrarian view that not everyone holds.

01:30:12.000 I actually think that if you're only in the pursuit of electoral victory, that's the only thing you care about, which of course is why you're doing it.

01:30:20.000 I'm invalidating that.

01:30:21.000 Then I think that it just defeats the process.

01:30:23.000 And actually, the ironic thing is if you really pursue truth and you really say things that are correct and factual and statistical based and rooted in logic, you're actually going to win.

01:30:35.000 That's the funny thing.

01:30:37.000 That's why Trump won.

01:30:38.000 He's the first person that actually told us the truth for the first time in 40 years, right?

01:30:41.000 We've been getting ripped off.

01:30:42.000 DC is a swamp. 0.99

01:30:43.000 They're all screwing us off. 1.00

01:30:44.000 China's eating our lunch. 0.98

01:30:45.000 People are like, this guy's actually telling us a brutal truth for the first time.

01:30:48.000 You think about it, you know, Trump in 2015, 2016, he wasn't actually trying to convince us that things were going well.

01:30:56.000 And that's what was so interesting is that you had these other politicians that were just all scripted.

01:31:00.000 He's like, we've been ripped off.

01:31:02.000 You guys are sick of losing elected me.

01:31:03.000 We actually might win again.

01:31:04.000 It's like, wow, I've never heard someone say that.

01:31:06.000 He was in a debate and he did something we were not used to.

01:31:09.000 He was asked a question and he answered the question.

01:31:12.000 Seriously, it was like, oh my gosh.

01:31:14.000 No, it's like usually this guy's like, according to my free 33-point plan that's been poll tested in all these states, I believe that we should have corporate tax cuts.

01:31:20.000 And I'm so exhausted with that stuff.

01:31:23.000 Are you guys? 0.98

01:31:23.000 I'm just like so dumb with hearing about that. 0.98

01:31:25.000 It's all the Democrats' fault. 0.99

01:31:26.000 I just like, enough.

01:31:28.000 And I think Trump right now is in some ways recalibrating.

01:31:33.000 He's going to be terrific.

01:31:34.000 He's going to come on a really good upward trajectory.

01:31:35.000 And remember, all stories need arcs and troughs and valleys.

01:31:39.000 And the story is not yet written.

01:31:40.000 Everyone says, oh, Trump has done.

01:31:41.000 I'm like, yeah, sure.

01:31:42.000 Not so fast, my friends.

01:31:44.000 We'll see.

01:31:44.000 But I think what Trump also did so amazingly in 2016, what you can do, is he also captured the imagination of the American people.

01:31:50.000 It's that for the first time, he actually made very big and bold promises that were tangible to us, that almost pushed our boundaries of what was possible.

01:31:58.000 And he almost raised the tone level in the country where he's like, yeah, I'm going to bring back jobs from China.

01:32:04.000 No one would ever say something like that, right? 0.71

01:32:06.000 Instead, they'd be like, we're going to attempt our best to bring manufacturing.

01:32:10.000 You guys are going to win so much, you're going to be sick of it.

01:32:13.000 Like, what?

01:32:14.000 Like, I need to set it over and I was sick of winning, right?

01:32:14.000 Like, are you kidding me?

01:32:17.000 We're going to build a wall.

01:32:19.000 You can do that?

01:32:19.000 What?

01:32:20.000 Right?

01:32:21.000 And by the way, he's done a lot of the things almost everything he said he's going to do, he's dead.

01:32:24.000 I think he's got to get back to that.

01:32:26.000 I think he's got to get back to capturing our imagination again.

01:32:29.000 Because I actually think as the country is such in this crisis moment, and a very turn towards the positive and towards almost like we're going to go to Mars, we're going to do the Space Force, we're going to go we've never gone before, I think is actually going to be more resonant than ever before against Biden who's this era.

01:32:44.000 So that's kind of my advice to you is just be obviously be very disciplined, but come from the outset that like I'm prepared to lose.

01:32:51.000 And it sounds really weird, but like once you surrender that, truly, then you'll be on a true pursuit of saying what is right and true.

01:32:59.000 And then more technical things is outwork every one of your candidates.

01:33:03.000 Do more events, do more fundraisers, do all that sort of stuff, knock on more doors, and you'll be richly rewarded for that.

01:33:08.000 And so that's, I know it's kind of somewhat contrary, but I think that true victory is actually telling the truth, not just getting more votes than the other person.

01:33:16.000 So, yes.

01:33:19.000 Hi.

01:33:20.000 Hello.

01:33:21.000 Sorry.

01:33:22.000 My name is Jason Griffiths.

01:33:24.000 I just want to say thank you so much for being here.

01:33:28.000 People like you, Ben Carson, Candace Owens, keep me going because I'm like, okay, I'm not crazy.

01:33:34.000 These are actually rational thoughts.

01:33:37.000 So I stayed up all night.

01:33:39.000 My wife can tell you I was all giddy when I saw you on the billboard.

01:33:42.000 I was like, Charlie Kirk, are you serious?

01:33:43.000 Are you serious?

01:33:44.000 I freaked out.

01:33:45.000 And so thank you.

01:33:46.000 It's very kind of.

01:33:49.000 You touched on most things, but I did want to ask because two things I wasn't too sure of, and I wanted to make sure it's most things I search out for the truth.

01:33:58.000 One is, is BLM a Marxist movement?

01:34:03.000 And number two, is George Soros really funding things?

01:34:08.000 Yeah, so Bureau of Land Management is absolutely a Marxist.

01:34:12.000 By the way, the West should be given their land back.

01:34:14.000 I think Trump should run on that.

01:34:16.000 I think we win in every single election.

01:34:18.000 You're in my only who can say that.

01:34:20.000 You're in Myomy who can say that.

01:34:25.000 I say it all the time.

01:34:27.000 I think Trump should run on it.

01:34:28.000 I think Steve Daines would win because of it.

01:34:29.000 I think he could win Nevada.

01:34:31.000 I think he'd win Arizona because the federal government land grabs.

01:34:34.000 And they're buying more, by the way.

01:34:35.000 It's like unbelievable.

01:34:35.000 They're buying more.

01:34:36.000 We don't even have states' rights out here.

01:34:38.000 It's mostly just federal lands that are protected by the federal government.

01:34:41.000 And I think it's a huge issue.

01:34:42.000 So I'm kidding.

01:34:43.000 Yeah, so BLM is a Marxist movement.

01:34:45.000 It's also a post-modernist movement.

01:34:47.000 It's rooted in ideas that were perfected in the French Revolution and other communist revolutions, which is to pit people against each other on the most tribal lines. 0.60

01:34:55.000 And they found in America that they could do that in skin color. 0.61

01:34:57.000 And that's a very, and so that's there. 0.83

01:35:00.000 They're trying to make us, they're trying to destroy the American idea of e plurbus unum, which is on all of our currency, which is Latin for out of many one.

01:35:09.000 There instead of trying to divide and conquer.

01:35:11.000 And look, the Marxists, they went through many, and for those that don't know, when I say Marxist, it's Karl Marx or the Communist Manifesto, mid-1800s literature.

01:35:20.000 He was inspired heavily by Rousseau and Hegel, who wrote the Hegelian dialectic, one of the most disastrous, destructive thinkers ever, who actually could be the only person who could be pinned for both the tragedies of the Soviet Union and of the Nazis, interestingly enough.

01:35:35.000 However, the interesting thing is this, is that in the 1960s, they went through kind of a rebranding, and we're now experiencing the rebranding of the Marxists.

01:35:42.000 So the Marxist struggle was always like, okay, it's the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat, right?

01:35:46.000 It's the working class versus the rich people.

01:35:48.000 But they realized because of markets and because of hardworking people, specifically Americans, that that kind of a message was not resonating as much.

01:35:56.000 It was like, ah, okay, I should be a shared Marxism.

01:35:58.000 So instead, they tried something different.

01:35:59.000 They went through a complete and total philosophical rebranding.

01:36:02.000 And you could blame a guy by the name of Jacques Derrida because of this.

01:36:05.000 And he was the guy that has influenced your children more than any other thinker. 0.97

01:36:10.000 French, all bad ideas come from France. 1.00

01:36:13.000 They're experts in making sure we learn volunteers. 1.00

01:36:16.000 And they were, where do they want to spread their foolishness? 0.98

01:36:19.000 They came to America.

01:36:20.000 So he came to Yale and it spread like wildfire.

01:36:22.000 And it's this idea called postmodernism.

01:36:24.000 Because here's how postmodernism works.

01:36:26.000 The first belief of postmodernism is there's no such thing as absolute truth.

01:36:30.000 There's no such thing as truth.

01:36:31.000 You have nothing but your own truth.

01:36:32.000 So everyone has a different truth.

01:36:34.000 And now, what they said was not at the output of their first observation was not necessarily incorrect, but the second deviation was incorrect.

01:36:41.000 So it came from this idea of frame theory, right?

01:36:43.000 So like you look at this water bottle and there might be a billion different things.

01:36:46.000 This could be this could be a water bottle.

01:36:48.000 It could be a weapon.

01:36:49.000 It could be a toy.

01:36:50.000 Okay, so that's more semantic so than anything else, right?

01:36:53.000 There's really only one true usage of this, which is to deliver water to me, right?

01:36:58.000 And so what they were trying to first and foremost do is invalidate the Bible, right?

01:37:02.000 They're trying to invalidate the teachings of Christ and all the great works of Western literature, where they're like, well, no, the true story of Christ is not that it was someone that was trying to save the world.

01:37:13.000 The true story is that Christ should have fought back or something like that, right?

01:37:17.000 So all of a sudden, what?

01:37:18.000 No, that's not the story at all.

01:37:20.000 So you kind of see all of a sudden they're trying to invalidate everything that we built our society around.

01:37:24.000 What they were really doing is they were liberating young people to believe things that were their own truth.

01:37:29.000 And this idea of like, well, you're the most important thing in the world, so you must believe whatever you want to believe.

01:37:34.000 And so what they did is they went to this rebranding and said, okay, instead of the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat, it'll be oppressor versus oppressed.

01:37:40.000 That's like their new paradigm, right?

01:37:42.000 So it'll be the people that are oppressed versus the oppressor. 0.96

01:37:45.000 And the oppressed people are black and people of color, and white people are the oppressors. 0.69

01:37:49.000 That's where they came up with the idea of white privilege and white fragility. 0.99

01:37:52.000 It's nothing more than a tactic.

01:37:53.000 They don't actually believe this, okay?

01:37:55.000 Some do, some don't.

01:37:56.000 The architects of the chaos don't.

01:37:58.000 And so now we're living this out, right?

01:38:00.000 So they actually believe that they could fundamentally destroy the society.

01:38:03.000 And now, I'm sure a lot of you are saying this right now, but what do they want?

01:38:06.000 Like, what is their goal?

01:38:07.000 Right?

01:38:08.000 How many people are probably thinking like, oh my goodness, what is our well, first of all, don't assume they have one.

01:38:12.000 That's the first and fourth.

01:38:13.000 Some people just like to watch the world burn.

01:38:15.000 That's a very important thing.

01:38:16.000 Quote from one of my favorite movies, and it's unbelievably true.

01:38:20.000 Some people love, they get a sense of meaning in the arson around them.

01:38:25.000 They miss their calling as pyrotechnics, okay?

01:38:28.000 And they, I'm kidding, of course, but they're societal and civilizational arsonists.

01:38:34.000 And because they have so much resentment, they have so much self-hatred and self-loathing, and they're missing the true truth of surrendering themselves to a higher power, their only sense of meaning is to make sure other people suffer around them.

01:38:43.000 It's that old thing we say all the time: we love company, right?

01:38:46.000 We say that all the time, and that's actually what you're seeing now, is it spreads and this resentful revolution.

01:38:52.000 And so then now you're seeing it play out, and you're seeing an entire generation that has grown up with none of the struggles that the generations before had them, right?

01:38:59.000 Young people today have it better than any other generation in American history.

01:39:02.000 They're generally provided for food-wise, medically, housing.

01:39:05.000 There's, of course, exceptions to all this, but 99.8% of Americans, young people, generally able to get the food they need to survive.

01:39:12.000 They have the medicine they need to be able to get to their teens, right?

01:39:14.000 Like, we don't have infant mortality rates that are concerning.

01:39:17.000 You guys have to get everything.

01:39:17.000 So, because of that, all of a sudden, they take that for granted.

01:39:20.000 They're not taught the sacrifices before them that were made.

01:39:23.000 And it creates an incredibly resentful generation.

01:39:25.000 And so, what they teach young people in particular, and you guys have probably experienced this, is where real meaning comes from responsibility, right?

01:39:32.000 Responsibility to God, responsibility to Christ, responsibility to your family, responsibility to your job.

01:39:37.000 We've taught young people that just doing whatever you want gives you meaning.

01:39:41.000 You know, that's an awful way to live, okay?

01:39:43.000 That's where you get this, right?

01:39:44.000 So, you get really unhappy people by the time they're 23 years old because they've tried every substance under the sun, they've done everything you could possibly indulge in, and they're wondering why they're still miserable, right?

01:39:54.000 And so, then they want to burn the world though, and it creates perfect little activist revolutionaries.

01:39:59.000 Final thing about George Soros that you ask, yeah, he's heavily involved in all this. 0.55

01:40:03.000 We have a huge, there's huge projects and research projects that have been done that there's multi-billion dollar funding streams that are going to destroy our country from within, from the Iranians, from the Middle East, from the Chinese, that we're helping fund a lot of this disarray and chaos.

01:40:17.000 And isn't it convenient that right after a virus that kills over 100,000 people and locks down our country and causes 30 million people out of work, and anywhere between 30 to 40,000 people committed suicide? 0.65

01:40:27.000 We don't know the number yet because they haven't come in.

01:40:29.000 The lockdowns were not without price.

01:40:31.000 We have to understand that.

01:40:32.000 It wasn't like you could just turn a switch off and all of a sudden the virus disappears.

01:40:35.000 And then, hoobrid hubris it takes to think that we can stop a virus as human beings.

01:40:39.000 I just, it's like, really?

01:40:40.000 Like, we can control this thing?

01:40:43.000 It's like everyone playing God.

01:40:44.000 It's unbelievably dangerous, and we saw the results of that. 0.84

01:40:47.000 But also, but the person, the reason all that happened is because China lied, and I think China is an incredibly dangerous, malevolent, sinister, atheistic regime that we must take more seriously. 0.79

01:40:57.000 But many of them have purchased our political leaders and the leaders in our political elite. 0.67

01:41:02.000 As soon as we're starting to get serious, we'll hold them accountable. 0.76

01:41:04.000 All of a sudden, we have like a racial revolution in our country, right? 0.55

01:41:07.000 And there's a lot of evidence that's coming up that the Chinese Communist Party has been funding these revolutionary groups.

01:41:12.000 And if you look at the videos online, you see that the activists are walking down the streets, and all of a sudden they pull down a couple things, and there's a nicely delivered bricks for them to be able to destroy.

01:41:20.000 You saw these incredible, if you haven't seen these videos, it's unbelievable.

01:41:23.000 It's like perfectly placed all throughout the inner cities with exactly what was needed.

01:41:27.000 And so, yeah, look, there's what we have is a true insurrection right now.

01:41:31.000 It really is.

01:41:31.000 Now, what's interesting, though, and why I think that they're going to hit a plateau at some point, and it's not to say they're not going to win, because I don't think they will, is that they're the first inter-civilizational insurrection that is against the country they're trying to take over.

01:41:45.000 It's very strange.

01:41:47.000 So, for example, like the Russian Revolution, they were very pro-Russian, right?

01:41:50.000 They were like, the true Russians are not the Tsars.

01:41:53.000 We have the flag, represent us.

01:41:55.000 The Cuban Revolution Fidel the same way. 0.98

01:41:57.000 Chinese the same way. 0.78

01:41:58.000 These people are saying we hate the country, now give us power.

01:42:00.000 Like, wait a second, that's never happened before.

01:42:05.000 The people try to take over the country, say they hate the country.

01:42:07.000 Usually, they'll at least be a little bit more deceitful and a little bit more deceptive before they try to take over the country.

01:42:12.000 Like, you're burning the flag and now you want to represent the flag?

01:42:14.000 Like, this is where we're at now.

01:42:16.000 But, I mean, what's happened is amazing.

01:42:17.000 And we've fallen, somebody said this, we've fallen hypnotized by the trappings of Western luxury, right?

01:42:24.000 Is that we have things so good that we just file complacent, where you have leaders like Elon Omar and Alexandria Yucasi-Cortez and Diana Presley that are bigger anti-Americans and anti-Western individuals that just get blended into mainstream American politics as if they should be taken seriously.

01:42:40.000 And no, I mean, they want a very, very, very fundamentally revolutionized America.

01:42:45.000 It's not anywhere close to what is true or good.

01:42:48.000 And so, yeah, I think that summarizes that question rather well.

01:42:52.000 So, at least completely.

01:42:54.000 Any other questions you guys have?

01:42:55.000 Did I run the gauntlet?

01:42:57.000 So, a couple things in closing.

01:42:59.000 If you guys want to hear more, I have a completely different speech prepared from my Republican speech.

01:43:03.000 So, I don't know if you guys are hearing that, but I'm doing something at the local GOP.

01:43:06.000 I enjoy this more because this has to be more philosophical and more religious.

01:43:10.000 Politics stuff is, it doesn't bore me, but it's like, okay, great.

01:43:15.000 I think what's going on is so much deeper than just like right versus left.

01:43:18.000 And that's not saying it's not important.

01:43:19.000 Like, I'm involved in it every day.

01:43:20.000 It just kind of, it's not as critical.

01:43:24.000 I think that's probably the best way to word it.

01:43:26.000 So, if you guys want to check out that speech, it's in a couple hours, I think, at the Camplex, if you guys want to come by to that.

01:43:33.000 So, I have a couple asks out of you guys.

01:43:36.000 Number one, I barely touched into the cartel of the colleges, which is the most disastrous, insidious force, and not the most, one of the most, that is create the next generation of activists where we have a generation of young people borrowing money they don't have to study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist to go learn from people that hate our country so they too can become bitter revolutionaries within a country that has given them so much.

01:43:57.000 And so I highly encourage you a couple things.

01:43:59.000 Be very careful and prayerful before you send a kid off to college.

01:44:02.000 Ask that kid why are you going to college, not where are you going to college?

01:44:05.000 Four-year college is not needed to succeed in our country.

01:44:08.000 All you need to have is good character and outwork the person next to you, and you'll be able to succeed in our country.

01:44:13.000 This idea that you can be a certificate, that you need to go to college to be able to succeed in certain trades and professions, it's nice.

01:44:19.000 It's a nice little add-on.

01:44:20.000 It's an accreditation more than an education.

01:44:22.000 Very, very important to make that clear.

01:44:24.000 I never went to college, and I try to be a testament and give people a confidence that YouTube and that need to go to college to hopefully be able to succeed in this country.

01:44:31.000 That also kind of goes to extrapolate that for parents.

01:44:34.000 For parents out there that are just pushing your kids to college, this state is less than other states.

01:44:38.000 I have to give the state credit.

01:44:39.000 You guys have a really heavy emphasis on the trades and the local.

01:44:42.000 So I'm going to give Wyoming credit for that.

01:44:44.000 You guys have done a great job.

01:44:45.000 But this part of the speech is more focused on the people listening in the future.

01:44:49.000 Because a lot of the reason why kids go to college is not because of them.

01:44:52.000 It's because of the parents' egos.

01:44:53.000 They could never imagine their kid not going to college.

01:44:55.000 They don't want to be able to look at their parents in the eye and say, yeah, their neighbors in the eyes and say, yeah, my kid didn't go to college.

01:45:01.000 And I'm okay with that.

01:45:02.000 That's like an unspeakable sentence in some communities across America.

01:45:05.000 So what you have is a cartel of colleges that are charging more money than ever before that's not worth the price that they're paying.

01:45:12.000 And kids are going $60,000, $70,000, $80,000, $100,000 in debt with very little skills to show for it.

01:45:17.000 I make an argument that an 18-year-old in high school is far more mature than a senior in high school.

01:45:23.000 In fact, college actually infantilizes children.

01:45:25.000 It allows you to indulge into the worst aspects of human society with very little parental guidance or supervision, very little expectations given out of college, because there's kids that rise above it, of course, there are. 0.97

01:45:36.000 But generally, they're allowed almost complete and total utility to believe nonsense and to act in nonsensical, foolish ways.

01:45:42.000 So people say, what can I do about it?

01:45:44.000 Highly encourage gap years. 1.00

01:45:45.000 I really do.

01:45:45.000 I think a gap year for young men in particular is a very important, good thing to do.

01:45:50.000 I also say there's nothing wrong with community colleges. 0.67

01:45:52.000 I think we need more welders and plumbers, electricians, HVAC, people that know how to code and do things that are applicable, and far less people that know, you know, I don't know, 16th century lesbian poetry or something, whatever they teach in school, based on some sort of backwards stuff. 0.97

01:46:07.000 And so that's one thing.

01:46:10.000 Another thing is I don't imagine this audience has a lot of people like this, but please do not give money to your alma mater unless you went to Hillsdale or Liberty University.

01:46:19.000 The colleges don't need their money.

01:46:20.000 They're overfunded.

01:46:21.000 They're sitting on Eugene Davins.

01:46:22.000 They've overextended themselves.

01:46:23.000 Let them go through some formal reckoning process, have them have to lay off staff, have them have to actually go through some sort of thinning process.

01:46:30.000 It'll be very healthy for them.

01:46:31.000 They're going to go on huge capital drives.

01:46:33.000 They're going to ask you for money.

01:46:34.000 Please support the school.

01:46:35.000 Say, you know what?

01:46:35.000 I think it's about time you guys start to downsize a little bit.

01:46:37.000 Go more virtual.

01:46:38.000 Get rid of the brick and mortar.

01:46:39.000 Every part of society, including Turning Point USA, is going through rough times these last couple of months.

01:46:44.000 Colleges should not be immune to that.

01:46:45.000 They shouldn't get a bailout.

01:46:46.000 They shouldn't.

01:46:47.000 I know the University of Wyoming is really close to a lot of people, but I'll tell you, we hosted Dennis Krager there last year, a year and a half ago, one of the most venomous receptions that we've ever, right?

01:46:56.000 Turning point USA later.

01:46:57.000 It was unbelievably offline.

01:46:59.000 I would have thought we were at Brown University.

01:47:01.000 It was unbelievably bad.

01:47:02.000 So I encourage you guys to think critically about how we fund higher education, how we interact with it.

01:47:07.000 And so, you want to say one thing before I close off?

01:47:10.000 Yeah, are you familiar with Summit?

01:47:14.000 Yeah, are they the Apologetics out of Colorado?

01:47:16.000 Yes, out of Colorado Springs.

01:47:17.000 Yeah, they're terrific.

01:47:19.000 We actually sponsor our seniors that are getting ready to go to college.

01:47:25.000 We help scholarships to go there.

01:47:28.000 And a lot of people don't know about it.

01:47:31.000 And it is, I think, probably one of the best worldview and apologetics preparation courses that there is.

01:47:39.000 I totally agree.

01:47:40.000 And I didn't know about it until a couple months ago.

01:47:42.000 And I kind of gave them a hard time.

01:47:43.000 Like, you guys should have been calling me a long time ago.

01:47:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:46.000 Like, I'm contesting for this stuff every day.

01:47:49.000 Like, I found them by accident on YouTube.

01:47:52.000 And I was so blown away.

01:47:53.000 William Lane Craig, we talked about talks there, and Rabbi Zacharias used to do stuff there.

01:47:58.000 And young people would be so blessed by those teachings.

01:48:01.000 And so I'm highly supportive of that.

01:48:03.000 So, do you have another thing?

01:48:05.000 I was just saying that every senior that we have sent to that has either gone into the ministry or is doing a productive work outside of the church in either teaching or different things.

01:48:20.000 I mean, it literally has an impact on their life if they've got a good foundational teaching from the church that can be built on and it gives them the tools to understand what's coming at them so they're not shocked.

01:48:34.000 Because I don't think the church does a good enough job at teaching them what they're going to go into.

01:48:40.000 That's right.

01:48:40.000 When they get to college.

01:48:42.000 Right.

01:48:42.000 And so I completely agree.

01:48:44.000 And I mean, you give me a high school Christian that doesn't know their stuff. 0.92

01:48:50.000 I claim devil's advocate to make them doubt their whole faith in 10 minutes or less.

01:48:54.000 I would never do something like that.

01:48:55.000 I just know how they do it so well, right?

01:48:58.000 And so I think that, and I wasn't even equipped with Christian apologetics until I fell backwards in a lease stroll, right?

01:49:04.000 And that was the church, your church does a great job based on what you just said, but generally the church does not do a proper, I think, a really good job of equipping Christians in that sense.

01:49:14.000 So that's my message on college.

01:49:16.000 So just please pray on that and think about that.

01:49:18.000 Then also, I'm a huge advocate.

01:49:20.000 I tweet all the time: we have to double the American homeschooling population in the next five years.

01:49:24.000 It's one of our last saving graces.

01:49:25.000 We have to get more serious about homeschooling, help homeschoolers assist them.

01:49:29.000 It's expensive, it's hard, it's time-consuming.

01:49:31.000 I get it.

01:49:32.000 It's one of the last saving graces.

01:49:34.000 We're one of the only countries in the world that has a massive homeschooling population.

01:49:37.000 Truly, it's incredible.

01:49:39.000 Most countries are just like plummets by the idea that parents would become teachers.

01:49:42.000 Like, why wouldn't the state do such a thing like that?

01:49:45.000 And so, I'm a huge advocate of homeschooling.

01:49:47.000 If we can double homeschooling population in five years, I think it'll be one of the saving graces in our country, I really do, against what they're trying to do through government-run schools.

01:49:54.000 So, I know this state has actually one of the highest per capita homeschooling rates in the entire country.

01:49:58.000 And that's why I think you guys are so believing in truth in this state.

01:50:02.000 You guys, you know, do a lot of good stuff there.

01:50:04.000 And then, demand more of your elected officials, guys, please.

01:50:08.000 They can't take you for granted.

01:50:09.000 They've got to be fighters.

01:50:10.000 This is the most conservative state in the country, right?

01:50:13.000 Statistically, it just is.

01:50:15.000 Every election shows it, every registration shows it.

01:50:18.000 You guys should have firebrands in Congress.

01:50:21.000 You guys should be like blowing the roof off the place, right?

01:50:24.000 Um, and so I encourage you guys to insist that amongst your people.

01:50:27.000 So, it's been a great blessing to be here.

01:50:29.000 This is a great church.

01:50:30.000 I don't know if this is your church or not, but it's worthy of your support because the truth, every church needs to be involved in the public square right now.

01:50:36.000 So, God bless you guys, it's been great.

01:50:38.000 Thank you.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 05, 2020

Trump Vs. The World: A Battle for Truth and the Future of America

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