The Charlie Kirk Show - Tulsi Exposes Biolabs + AMA 270

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00:01:17.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 It's Friday, June 12th.

00:01:22.000 We're here at the Y Refi Studios.

00:01:23.000 Blake is still on assignment, so we're holding it down here in Phoenix, Arizona, and there is much to discuss namely, do we have a peace deal or not?

00:01:33.000 So, a lot has been going back and forth in the news media.

00:01:37.000 Overseas, a lot of leaks coming out of the Middle East.

00:01:41.000 President Trump is none too pleased.

00:01:43.000 But let's get the basic facts about where we were supposed to be at, where we thought we were at as of yesterday.

00:01:50.000 Let's go ahead and play cut 24.

00:01:52.000 But has Iran committed to not pursuing a nuclear weapon, or will there be more negotiations on that down the line?

00:01:59.000 They will not have a nuclear weapon.

00:02:01.000 They've agreed to that.

00:02:02.000 There will be no, which is the whole reason, which is a big part of the reason.

00:02:05.000 Is that going to be in your agreement?

00:02:07.000 They will not only not have, they will not purchase, develop in any way, any shape.

00:02:12.000 In any way, shape, or form, a nuclear weapon.

00:02:14.000 They will not have a nuclear weapon.

00:02:16.000 All right.

00:02:17.000 So that's the big get, obviously.

00:02:19.000 But then the second big get is the Strait of Hormuz.

00:02:22.000 So, again, this deal has been going on and being negotiated for weeks now.

00:02:28.000 I was able to participate in sort of a high level call with some members of the press a few weeks ago.

00:02:34.000 I'm told there was another one this morning.

00:02:36.000 I was not on it, but I'm getting updates as we go, calling my sources.

00:02:40.000 And they said it was going to take weeks at that point.

00:02:42.000 They basically said, You know, it's carrier pigeons that you got to get into this supreme leader because they got them hidden in a bunker somewhere.

00:02:49.000 You know, no digital connection.

00:02:51.000 All right, so let's look at 25 here.

00:02:53.000 This is another piece of it the straight and the blockade.

00:02:56.000 25.

00:02:58.000 And when this deal is signed, is the United States going to immediately lift the blockade?

00:03:03.000 Yes, that's true.

00:03:04.000 That's part of the deal.

00:03:07.000 And you'll have oil prices dropping like a rock.

00:03:11.000 So that's the piece there oil prices dropping like a rock.

00:03:15.000 Okay, next piece, just so we get it all from the president, straight from the president's mouth himself.

00:03:20.000 26.

00:03:21.000 We just made a great settlement of the war with Iran, and we're going to be subject to finalization of documents.

00:03:30.000 We should get done over the next few days.

00:03:34.000 Probably have a signing maybe in Europe, and it's a great thing.

00:03:39.000 All right, so that was yesterday.

00:03:42.000 Then over the middle of the night, there were leaks coming out of the Middle East.

00:03:46.000 Talking about maybe cash being involved, talking about an immediate release of sanctions, easing of sanctions.

00:03:55.000 Now, the White House, President Trump, JD Vance, out in full force, pushing back against that.

00:04:01.000 President Trump calling these people and these leakers dishonorable, some of the negotiators dishonorable, throw up this Truth Social that just came out.

00:04:09.000 He said the terms that Iran leaked out to the fake news have nothing to do with the terms that were agreed to in writing. 0.89

00:04:15.000 What they said, including their weak and pathetic statement on having a deal, bears no relation to the truth. 0.96

00:04:21.000 Very dishonorable people to deal with. 0.98

00:04:23.000 With them, there is no such thing as dealing in good faith.

00:04:25.000 Amazing.

00:04:26.000 Also, their totally rebuffed drone attack last night against Indian ships leaving the Hormuz Strait is totally unacceptable.

00:04:33.000 They better get their act together and fast.

00:04:36.000 JD Vance continues on.

00:04:38.000 He said, I'm seeing a lot of fake information about a potential deal to reopen the Strait and end Iran's nuclear program.

00:04:46.000 First, the Iranians are not receiving any cash.

00:04:50.000 And that was clear a couple weeks ago.

00:04:51.000 That was never going to be on the table.

00:04:52.000 And no funds are being released for simply signing a deal or attending a meeting.

00:04:57.000 The deal is structured to ensure that the U.S. and its allies' concerns are prioritized, and that if the Islamic Republic of Iran meets its obligations, Then economic benefits will flow to them and to the entire region.

00:05:11.000 This deal has the potential to remake the region and lead to lasting peace.

00:05:14.000 I've noticed a couple of bizarre things in the reporting over the last few hours.

00:05:18.000 First, people who rightly said Donald Trump was a historic president a month ago are now criticizing a deal based on unconfirmed media reports.

00:05:26.000 Second, people who say you can't trust a word said by the IRGC who apparently believe anonymously sourced social media posts.

00:05:33.000 It's a very good point.

00:05:34.000 The president is going to get us a good outcome one way or another.

00:05:37.000 All right.

00:05:38.000 So I was trying to get a readout of this.

00:05:42.000 Call this morning, kind of giving an update from a very high place source within the admin.

00:05:49.000 There were a few that were apparently accurate.

00:05:52.000 So, this is a tweet from Fox News, who apparently somebody from Fox was on this call, this briefing call this morning.

00:05:57.000 It says a White House official says Iran has agreed to a performance based deal that would require major concessions before receiving any sanctions relief.

00:06:06.000 According to the official, Iran's nuclear material would be destroyed and removed, its nuclear program dismantled.

00:06:13.000 And none of its money released until it fulfills its commitments.

00:06:16.000 And that is a repeat beat, I can tell you that when I've called in, asked for details, updates on how this is progressing, that seems to be a repeat beat.

00:06:25.000 That they will not release any of the money, meaning the sanctions, easing of the sanctions.

00:06:32.000 They're not going to get oil shipments out and money in until they fulfill its commitments.

00:06:38.000 The official also said the Strait of Hormuz would remain open and Iran would agree to stop funding terrorist groups.

00:06:43.000 So you got nuclear, the Strait of Hormuz.

00:06:46.000 And stop funding terrorist groups.

00:06:48.000 There's now, there's another one.

00:06:48.000 Okay.

00:06:51.000 This one here from Kaylee McEnany.

00:06:52.000 I'm assuming she must have been on this briefing call.

00:06:55.000 Do we have a deal yet?

00:06:56.000 No, but we are very close.

00:06:57.000 The official estimates the deal is 75% there, not 100% yet.

00:07:01.000 While this is tentative, we feel confident that we will be signing this in the next few days.

00:07:06.000 We have agreed to the concept and the details, but the deal is not done until we sign it.

00:07:11.000 What is in the deal?

00:07:12.000 The highly enriched uranium will be destroyed.

00:07:15.000 The deal accomplishes that.

00:07:16.000 So, very, very clear.

00:07:17.000 That was the president's main objective.

00:07:19.000 You can go back and roll the tapes from 10, 20 years ago.

00:07:22.000 This is the main objective he was looking to get accomplished with these strikes.

00:07:26.000 You can love it, you can hate it, but this was always the main objective.

00:07:29.000 This deal gets this done.

00:07:31.000 There is a long term commitment that Iran cannot procure a nuclear weapon.

00:07:35.000 Three, this is a meaningful inspection process.

00:07:38.000 I'm hearing that it's going to be international inspectors as well as U.S. inspectors.

00:07:43.000 Four, Iran cannot fund terrorism as we work toward broader peace in the Middle East.

00:07:47.000 That's a big, big piece here.

00:07:49.000 What you're seeing in Lebanon. 0.87

00:07:51.000 What you're seeing with the Houthis, all this, these proxies that are sowing chaos and violence across the region. 0.97

00:08:00.000 If you're going to have a stable Middle East, you've got to deal with that too. 1.00

00:08:03.000 All right, the Hormuz Strait will be open.

00:08:05.000 Five assets are not immediately unfrozen. 0.76

00:08:07.000 Iran must meet its commitments first. 0.84

00:08:09.000 Okay?

00:08:11.000 Now, let me just say I know there is a certain contingent out there the hardliners, the war hawks that want to see a full regime change.

00:08:18.000 Okay, if you want to do that, you've got to put boots on the ground.

00:08:22.000 Okay?

00:08:23.000 President Trump has said publicly he doesn't think the country has the appetite or the patience for that.

00:08:27.000 He's right.

00:08:29.000 Just go talk to some of our turning point students.

00:08:31.000 They'll tell you.

00:08:33.000 Even Trump voters are done with this.

00:08:36.000 Okay?

00:08:37.000 They want the deal, they want peace.

00:08:39.000 Okay?

00:08:39.000 So you get what you can get and you end this.

00:08:42.000 Oil prices drop like a rock.

00:08:44.000 You have peace, stability.

00:08:46.000 They're not funding proxies.

00:08:48.000 At least that's the deal.

00:08:49.000 And by the way, you can always put sanctions back on.

00:08:52.000 If they renege on any of these points, main point is, though, you get that nuclear, you get an inspection regime that's actually got a backbone and actually has the threat of force behind it.

00:09:03.000 That's a good thing.

00:09:04.000 We want peace.

00:09:05.000 You got to understand, and we say it again and again and again, maybe you guys are annoyed at hearing it at this point, but you can always choose when to start a war, but you can't choose when to end it.

00:09:14.000 So sometimes you're making lemonade out of lemons here.

00:09:17.000 I'm not saying that's what's happening.

00:09:18.000 I'm just saying, yeah, you want regime change.

00:09:21.000 You want a regime that's actually acting in good faith.

00:09:24.000 That was never going to happen as long as the IRGC and the Ayatollah and all these people remain in place.

00:09:30.000 But that doesn't have to be our job to get rid of them, okay? 0.53

00:09:33.000 What we want is an end to nuclear and we want stability in the region.

00:09:36.000 This is a step by step process that nothing's getting released immediately.

00:09:40.000 They got to make good, they got to show good faith, steps in the right direction.

00:09:44.000 It's a home run if they can get it, okay?

00:09:45.000 Let's pray for peace.

00:09:47.000 That's the goal.

00:09:48.000 Pray for peace. 0.96

00:09:49.000 All right, we got to turn our attention to the Tulsi bombshell.

00:09:53.000 Listen, I think Tulsi's great. 0.98

00:09:55.000 I think she's a great patriot.

00:09:57.000 Charlie was super close to her, and she's been wonderful to me as well.

00:10:01.000 And got to really know her during the campaign.

00:10:04.000 Her and her husband, Abe, great people.

00:10:06.000 And here's what I will tell you she's going out with a bang.

00:10:12.000 Unfortunately, her husband did have a really severe, acute form of cancer that they caught.

00:10:17.000 It does seem like they caught it in time.

00:10:18.000 So we're praying for them.

00:10:20.000 We're continuing to pray for them.

00:10:22.000 But today, she released a video on social media.

00:10:27.000 That was pretty shocking stuff.

00:10:31.000 And I love this that she's not just, you know, fading off into the sunset.

00:10:35.000 She's like, I've been working on stuff and I'm going to get it out.

00:10:38.000 I'm going to get this out.

00:10:41.000 So here we go SOC 21.

00:10:43.000 I'm releasing new evidence of longstanding U.S. government funding of more than 120 biolabs in over 30 countries.

00:10:51.000 Now, these biolabs include labs in places like Ukraine, which could be at risk of compromise due to the ongoing Russia Ukraine war.

00:10:59.000 In fact, the intelligence community had previously warned that a U.S. funded biolab in Ukraine likely housed dangerous pathogens and remained vulnerable to longstanding threats of Russian attack, seizure, or damage.

00:11:13.000 Now, until now, evidence regarding the full existence and funding of these laboratories had been knowingly withheld from you, the American people.

00:11:22.000 Many of these U.S. government funded biolabs are currently or have previously engaged in research using hazardous and highly contagious pathogens.

00:11:32.000 And in some cases, it included dangerous gain of function research with very little visibility or oversight.

00:11:40.000 Oh, gain of Fauci.

00:11:42.000 That's what we call it.

00:11:44.000 Gain of function.

00:11:45.000 So we were told that this never happened.

00:11:47.000 We were told it didn't happen in Wuhan.

00:11:49.000 We were told these bio labs were a bunch of big conspiracy theories.

00:11:52.000 I remember covering this with Charlie when this story first broke in 2022 and watching the social media posts and the clips get taken down because they were disinformation.

00:12:05.000 Tulsi says it's all true and that some of these labs funded by the U.S. taxpayer internationally were doing gain of function.

00:12:13.000 Why is gain of function bad?

00:12:14.000 Let's just remember for a second.

00:12:16.000 This is how we got here, this is how we got the pandemic.

00:12:19.000 All of the minds that got broke because of COVID.

00:12:23.000 That was gain of function.

00:12:25.000 Fauci was funding it.

00:12:26.000 Fauci was lying to us about it.

00:12:29.000 That's why we say Fauci lied, people died.

00:12:31.000 They told us this was not true.

00:12:34.000 Big giant conspiracy theory.

00:12:38.000 Tulsi continues 22.

00:12:41.000 Now, President Trump clearly understands the serious threat dangerous gain of function research poses to the American people.

00:12:49.000 And this is why he took decisive action over a year ago.

00:12:52.000 On May 25th, 2025, he signed an executive order.

00:12:56.000 To end federal funding of gain of function research around the world.

00:13:00.000 Here at ODI, I issued new guidance to the intelligence community directing increased collection on these laboratories and facilities overseas.

00:13:10.000 And we're already seeing the results of this increased collection.

00:13:14.000 We're learning new details, for example, on clinical trials that are underway at these facilities and that are raising significant ethical, financial, and security concerns regarding the supposed public health initiatives and U.S. national security.

00:13:30.000 Yep.

00:13:31.000 And here's, throw this up from The Guardian.

00:13:34.000 You guys, this is too good.

00:13:37.000 Our team's pulling clips from this era to show just how weaponized this story had been used against us.

00:13:45.000 How Ukrainian bioweapons lab myth went from QAnon fringe to Fox News.

00:13:49.000 Oh, okay.

00:13:52.000 So is this why the fake news tried to paint Tulsi Gabbard as a Russian agent?

00:14:00.000 Is this why?

00:14:01.000 Is this why they tried to push her out?

00:14:03.000 She continues, 23.

00:14:04.000 This is important.

00:14:06.000 Now, despite the obvious potential for catastrophic global impact that research on dangerous pathogens in biolabs can have, politicians and so called health professionals like Dr. Fauci, as well as entities within the Biden administration's national security team, lied repeatedly to the American people about the existence of U.S. funded and supported biolabs.

00:14:32.000 Not only did they lie, They threatened those who attempted to expose the truth.

00:14:38.000 So, this release today breaks new ground as the information surrounding the existence, history, locations, and funding of these US funded biolabs has been intentionally covered up by very powerful people.

00:14:50.000 Odie and I will continue working closely with partners across the US government to identify exactly where these labs are and what pathogens they contain.

00:15:01.000 She mentions Dr. Fauci, US funding, it's been obscured from the American public.

00:15:08.000 And this is interesting because show this New York Times clip from the headline from that era.

00:15:15.000 Theory about U.S. funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine is unfounded, says the New York Times.

00:15:21.000 Oh, okay.

00:15:23.000 And I remember this clip.

00:15:25.000 I'll never forget this clip because everybody was saying it was a conspiracy theory, wasn't real, wasn't real.

00:15:29.000 And then Senator Marco Rubio asked Victoria Nuland, who's a real snake, by the way, about it.

00:15:36.000 And everybody was like, whoa, it is real.

00:15:38.000 28.

00:15:39.000 Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?

00:15:44.000 Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of.

00:16:00.000 So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.

00:16:13.000 Biden pardons Fauci, Millie, in the January 6th panel.

00:16:19.000 A full and unconditional pardon for Dr. Fauci.

00:16:23.000 Makes you wonder why.

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00:17:16.000 You know, real quick here, we're going to bring in Dr. Paul Moreno in just a second.

00:17:20.000 We're going to be talking about history, Carmelo Anthony, all that crazy stuff.

00:17:26.000 You know, I'm just looking.

00:17:28.000 The SpaceX IPO happened today, as many of you know.

00:17:32.000 4,400 current and former employees are projected to become brand new millionaires today.

00:17:38.000 And the stock is like, you know, I think it IPO'd at 135, which a lot of people were saying maybe that's too high.

00:17:42.000 And it's already at like 160.

00:17:45.000 So the market will tell you where it's going to go.

00:17:49.000 Get this, 400 of those people are expected to reach $100 million net worth, and there's going to be like four or five new billionaires.

00:17:58.000 There he goes.

00:17:59.000 So, congratulations to the SpaceX cafeteria workers who became millionaires today.

00:18:04.000 That's a big story.

00:18:05.000 Really fun stuff.

00:18:06.000 Without further ado, I want to bring in our next guest, and that is Dr. Paul Moreno from Hillsdale College, William and Bernice Grukok, Chair in Constitutional History and Professor of History.

00:18:06.000 All right.

00:18:22.000 Dr. Moreno, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:18:24.000 It's good to see you.

00:18:24.000 I know you're traveling, so thanks for making the time.

00:18:27.000 Oh, thanks very much.

00:18:28.000 Great to be on the show.

00:18:29.000 So, we have been having this ongoing conversation about this fallout from the Austin Metcalf, Carmelo Anthony trial, which is a total tragedy.

00:18:41.000 A young man lost his life who shouldn't have lost his life.

00:18:44.000 But I want you to hear some of the reactions from some of the folks around the country saying that this is some big injustice.

00:18:55.000 And it strikes at the very heart of our judicial system whether or not we can have a jury of our peers to find somebody's guilt or innocence.

00:19:04.000 SOT 34.

00:19:06.000 Well, they're saying that they struck the three black jurors.

00:19:11.000 I'll speak to it.

00:19:13.000 Yeah.

00:19:14.000 I have two attorneys coming up that are going to talk about that. 0.53

00:19:16.000 But yeah, it was an all white jury.

00:19:19.000 So that's not true, but it is the lie that keeps getting parroted again and again and again.

00:19:25.000 This is Carmelo Anthony's father saying the same thing.

00:19:28.000 SOT 36. 1.00

00:19:30.000 What stuck out to me, number one, was the all white jerk. 0.99

00:19:33.000 But I was trying to be, you know, like, all right, it's not that big of a deal. 1.00

00:19:37.000 I mean, the truth is on our side.

00:19:39.000 So that's not true.

00:19:41.000 It was actually a pretty diverse jury.

00:19:42.000 There were three African Americans who made it to, I guess, some sort of final stage, but they all said that they would struggle to convict a young black man.

00:19:53.000 And now there's tons of video clips going around the internet, Dr. Moreno, that say, you know, don't do that in the future.

00:19:59.000 If you're black, just tell them you can be fair.

00:20:02.000 And it strikes it a very deep question Can we continue doing this?

00:20:06.000 And what is the history of it?

00:20:07.000 How important is it?

00:20:09.000 And where do we go next?

00:20:11.000 Well, the jury is an essential institution.

00:20:14.000 It's one of the most important ones in the Constitution, although people don't usually look at it as a constitutional institution.

00:20:20.000 But it really is, in some ways, the most democratic institution in the Constitution.

00:20:26.000 It was sort of considered as like the lower house of the judicial branch, where the judges were sort of an elite aristocratic part of the judicial system.

00:20:36.000 But the jury was a place where ordinary citizens in person could help administer the justice system.

00:20:43.000 And there's a long history of that in the West, going back to ancient Greece and Rome and the.

00:20:48.000 The English jury system goes back probably to the 13th century.

00:20:52.000 During the ratification debate over the Constitution, when it came to Article III, the judicial branch, there was really more controversy about the jury and the way that the original Article III provided for juries.

00:21:05.000 And that's the reason why the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments of the Constitution really are all about the jury as an institution.

00:21:11.000 So the decline of the jury in American history has really been astounding.

00:21:18.000 I think something like 2% of criminal trials ever reach a jury today, and like less than 1% of civil trials.

00:21:25.000 So it really is almost a defunct institution in America.

00:21:29.000 Wow.

00:21:30.000 That's a profound thing you just said.

00:21:33.000 Why are we seeing the decline in it?

00:21:35.000 Is it just because so many cases get plea deals and they find settlements outside of the actual trial?

00:21:42.000 Yeah, the changes in the criminal justice system have led to just routine plea bargaining.

00:21:48.000 And also changes in the civil justice system, which have given lawyers a lot more opportunity to reach a settlement before you actually go to a jury.

00:21:58.000 It's interesting that there's a guarantee to a jury trial in criminal cases, in federal criminal cases, in the original Constitution.

00:22:07.000 And every state still has a criminal jury system, although they hardly ever use them anymore.

00:22:13.000 But civil trials, you're not entitled to a jury trial.

00:22:17.000 The Seventh Amendment, which says that in all cases where more than $20 is at stake, You're entitled to a jury has never been enforced.

00:22:24.000 The states can waive that if they want to.

00:22:27.000 Yeah, I mean, so I guess, like, my question is is that a bad thing that more cases are getting plea deals and settlements are reached before reaching the trial phase?

00:22:38.000 Yeah, most people in the criminal defense part of the justice system think that it is, that more people are being punished for things that they didn't do at all, that especially if you can't afford a good lawyer, you're going to be taken advantage of by the system where you have just sort of very quick and summary.

00:22:56.000 Justice because there's just so many cases.

00:22:58.000 Yeah, you know, I look at this case, Dr. Moreno, and I think they should have pled out.

00:23:04.000 The facts were such, they were so stacked against this kid.

00:23:08.000 I mean, he shouldn't have been carrying the knife in the first place.

00:23:12.000 He shouldn't have been sitting under the tent.

00:23:13.000 He was asked 15 times by some eyewitness accounts to leave.

00:23:17.000 He wasn't ganged up on, he wasn't assaulted.

00:23:21.000 He was ultimately, I think, a little shove is what I heard.

00:23:25.000 It was a small push.

00:23:26.000 And then instantly he was stabbed.

00:23:29.000 And his hand was already in the back.

00:23:31.000 This jury, though, was made up of apparently it had an Asian, Hispanic, Indian, or Middle Eastern individuals, three racial minorities among the 12, more and with more diversity, including alternates.

00:23:44.000 So it was eight women, four men.

00:23:47.000 Like I said, there was no black jurors on the panel.

00:23:51.000 Prosecutors struck all qualified black prospective jurors, citing reasons like them being educators or other non racial factors.

00:23:58.000 I can't, i.e., I can't put somebody that's black in jail would feel bad about that.

00:24:03.000 And the question I think, or the heart of the question, Is what are the underlying elements necessary to have a jury system that will actually be fair, that will apply the law and not tribalism?

00:24:19.000 And that is the question I think a lot of us are asking in our current demographic makeup, with all the racial strife, the racial animus, with all the immigration that we've had over the last 40, 50 years, are we still able to do this in an impartial way?

00:24:37.000 Well, that's one of the things a jury was meant to do is to be a way of enforcing sort of the norms and the values of the local community.

00:24:44.000 And when you have communities that are so divided as Americans are today along racial and other lines, as you say, it becomes a lot more difficult to do that.

00:24:51.000 Then jury trials become a way of people reaching results based upon those racial or other sort of status factors.

00:25:00.000 People are going to think now, I mean, the last high profile case like this, people would think of the O.J. Simpson trial, the Rodney King trial.

00:25:08.000 If you go back to the 1950s, The shoe was on the other foot.

00:25:11.000 It was the Emmett Till trial, where an all white jury very quickly acquitted some whites who, obviously, I think, after the fact they confessed, had lynched this young black man.

00:25:23.000 And so this has been going on for a long time in American history.

00:25:27.000 During the Reconstruction period, the unwillingness of blacks to serve as jurors, because it wasn't regarded as a right, a civil right, to serve on a jury was considered a political right, like voting or holding office, because Serving on a jury is really holding an office.

00:25:45.000 So it wasn't until the 15th Amendment that that came about that Congress struggled with ways to make sure that blacks could be able to get justice from all white juries in the southern states.

00:25:56.000 And a lot of northern states, which didn't allow blacks the right to vote or serve on juries until the 15th Amendment.

00:26:02.000 That's a fascinating history.

00:26:04.000 I mean, so what do you do then when you get to a point where people are saying now openly, lie to get on a jury?

00:26:12.000 Lie and tell people that you can be fair when you can't just to get on a jury so you can acquit a black defendant.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, because the Supreme Court, it used to be that lawyers could strike jurors for any reason whatsoever. 0.97

00:26:27.000 They were called peremptory challenges for exactly that reason.

00:26:30.000 They were peremptory.

00:26:32.000 In the 1980s, I think the Supreme Court said you can't use race as the reason for striking a juror.

00:26:38.000 And that's why in the selection in this case, they're saying, well, it wasn't for race, it was for other reasons.

00:26:44.000 Some of which were, I mean, if these jurors whose potential jurors said that I can't be unbiased about this, I got to give them credit for their honesty.

00:26:52.000 Yeah.

00:26:53.000 And for, you know, if people really can't believe that a jury of a particular race can do justice when the defendant is of another race, I don't know how wide that sentiment extends and how often high profile cases like this would come up.

00:27:10.000 But as I said before, it's not the first time in even recent history that we've had a high profile racialized.

00:27:18.000 Controversy like this.

00:27:19.000 Well, I certainly hope that this does not become a massive trend because, you know, I hope this tension dies down.

00:27:27.000 To me, this was egregious in many ways.

00:27:31.000 The facts were completely stacked against him.

00:27:36.000 And I think the jury made the right decision.

00:27:38.000 And I don't actually understand the controversy, other than there's a lot of bad actors that are working in bad faith out there that want to sow discord, that want to just malign the system.

00:27:50.000 In this instance, the system did what it was supposed to do.

00:27:53.000 This kid was clearly guilty.

00:27:55.000 Eyewitness accounts, the evidence, yeah, he should be held accountable.

00:28:00.000 And people are upset about that.

00:28:02.000 You know, I don't understand what they're upset about other than that he's a black young man.

00:28:06.000 I don't know.

00:28:07.000 The other factor is this is Texas, and if Texas is a death penalty state, and if the charge here is murder, then there are a lot of people who have compunctions about convicting people for murder.

00:28:18.000 Whereas, and this is kind of a plea bargaining thing, if you reduce the charge to manslaughter with a prison term, more people might be comfortable with that.

00:28:26.000 English juries, until England changes criminal laws in the 19th century, every felony was punishable by death.

00:28:33.000 And so you had a lot of juries that said, we're not going to convict just because we don't think you deserve the death penalty for picking someone's pocket.

00:28:39.000 I'm going to play a clip from Pete Boot Edge Edge and get your reaction to it on the other side.

00:28:45.000 33.

00:28:46.000 We have to deal with a Supreme Court that is now a rogue Supreme Court.

00:28:54.000 To see them eviscerate the Voting Rights Act is to see them reverse some of the most important progress this country ever made. 0.84

00:29:05.000 Wiping out black political representation, but also wiping out part of what actually is great within the complex American story. 0.76

00:29:14.000 Okay. 0.79

00:29:14.000 So now you see what's happening here. 0.79

00:29:16.000 It's not just delegitimizing the juries, it's not just delegitimizing a verdict in a very clear case involving Carmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf.

00:29:28.000 Now we got to talk about the Supreme Court.

00:29:30.000 We're going to pack it.

00:29:32.000 We're going to do everything we can to get our way politically and ideologically.

00:29:37.000 What do you make of that clip from?

00:29:39.000 Pete Boot, Edge Edge.

00:29:40.000 Well, I just read today that the Trump administration is really taking on the disparate impact standard of discrimination.

00:29:49.000 That's really what all this voting rights controversy is about.

00:29:52.000 The idea that enforcing the 14th and the 15th Amendment is about racial proportionalism, that we assume there's discrimination unless blacks or whoever are represented in proportion to their percentage of the population in every field of human life. 0.54

00:30:08.000 And the Reconstruction Amendments were never meant to do that. 0.61

00:30:11.000 Congress Overstepped its bounds, I think, in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act and in the Voting Rights Act.

00:30:18.000 And the court went along with that in the 1960s and 70s.

00:30:22.000 And now the Roberts Court is beginning to, I think, contain some of these excessive interpretations of the Reconstruction Amendments.

00:30:30.000 So the court is, I think, right now trying to undo some of the bad decisions that it made in the past.

00:30:38.000 And I think it's completely right for them to do that.

00:30:42.000 I love what you just said, Dr. Moreno.

00:30:44.000 For a number of reasons, namely, Charlie felt the same way.

00:30:47.000 I mean, Charlie was very, Charlie said it very bluntly that he thought that some of the Civil Rights Act was a mistake and he took a bunch of incoming for it.

00:30:55.000 It's not that he didn't, you know, support the intent, but what he was talking about was this excessive maybe language within the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act that they're correcting now.

00:31:08.000 But talk about a little bit more detail because I really want the audience to absorb this disparate impact.

00:31:15.000 What is it and why has it been misinterpreted?

00:31:19.000 And then you said Section 7 of the Civil Rights Act.

00:31:22.000 Unpack that a little bit more.

00:31:23.000 Yeah, because the Civil Rights Act in 1964 is a long bill.

00:31:28.000 Section 2, almost nobody would have any argument with.

00:31:30.000 That was about segregation, Jim Crow, and places of public accommodation.

00:31:34.000 Can I pause you right there?

00:31:35.000 Can I pause you right there?

00:31:36.000 This is what happens in this argument.

00:31:38.000 If you criticize anything within the Civil Rights Act, they go, oh, what do you want segregation again?

00:31:44.000 You want Jim Crow?

00:31:45.000 No, We're not talking about Section 2. 0.51

00:31:48.000 It's a big old bill.

00:31:49.000 So let's be very specific.

00:31:50.000 Continue.

00:31:51.000 Sorry, I just had to make.

00:31:52.000 I just had to.

00:31:53.000 Right.

00:31:54.000 Exactly, and that was the most controversial part of the Civil Rights Act, and that's what most people thought the Civil Rights Movement was all about.

00:32:00.000 Title VII is about employment and private discrimination.

00:32:03.000 It wasn't part of President Kennedy's original proposal for the Civil Rights Bill, it was put in by congressional liberals.

00:32:10.000 And there you can make a constitutional argument that that really goes beyond Congress's power to regulate commerce among the states.

00:32:18.000 But even if you accept that justification for Title VII, the idea that discrimination is proved on the basis of statistical disparity, this is the disparate impact standard.

00:32:27.000 That is just, I think, a bridge too far.

00:32:31.000 Because when the Civil Rights Act was being debated, almost everybody said discrimination is defined here as it was always understood an intentional act treating somebody differently on the basis of their race.

00:32:43.000 And now it has become not about individuals, not about treatment, it's become about equal group outcomes.

00:32:50.000 Justice Scalia referred to the interpretation of the Voting Rights Act as a racial entitlement to a certain proportion of elected officials.

00:32:59.000 It's so important what you're saying.

00:33:00.000 And what you just said is really important.

00:33:03.000 I remember reading about this a lot in Christopher Caldwell's book, Age of Entitlement.

00:33:09.000 And he, you know, so let's just lay the timeline out here.

00:33:12.000 JFK gets assassinated November 22nd, 1963.

00:33:16.000 And he was working on a version of the Civil Rights Act.

00:33:21.000 So he gets assassinated.

00:33:22.000 The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed by Congress and signed into law on July 2nd, 1964.

00:33:30.000 So about, let's say, seven months later.

00:33:33.000 About seven months later, it signed into law.

00:33:35.000 And Lyndon B. Johnson, I mean, this was a huge initial effort for him to win black support, to sort of, you know, and they pitched to the country a mourning country, a devastated country, as a way to sort of fulfill JFK's memory and legacy.

00:33:51.000 But it ballooned.

00:33:52.000 And you made that point that it was liberals within the Congress, the progressives in the Congress, that packed it full of all these other things that weren't originally part of his vision, namely Section 7.

00:34:03.000 With this proportionate representation, proportional entitlement.

00:34:07.000 These are these little history nuggets that get lost, but they're extra constitutional.

00:34:13.000 They're very against what the foundations of American society are.

00:34:19.000 So it's good that the Roberts Court is actually addressing these things, but obviously progressives are losing their minds about it.

00:34:25.000 But it's so important that our audience understands the history of how we got here and what it's going to take to correct a historic wrong.

00:34:33.000 Yes, in fact, that goes back to because John F. Kennedy was very reluctant about taking on the civil rights issue because Southerners, Southern segregationists were sort of at the core of the Democratic Party.

00:34:43.000 They chaired all the important committees in Congress.

00:34:46.000 So Kennedy was like this.

00:34:47.000 FDR was like this before him.

00:34:50.000 But Johnson was able to turn JFK into sort of a martyr for the civil rights bill.

00:34:54.000 He really played it politically very deftly and was able to break the Senate filibuster.

00:35:00.000 And back then, this filibuster was a two thirds majority required.

00:35:04.000 To end debate.

00:35:05.000 So you're right, the assassination of John F. Kennedy really was the turning point, but that event had to be told in a certain way to sell the connection.

00:35:14.000 Dr. Moreno, this was excellent.

00:35:15.000 Thank you so, so much for making the time.

00:35:18.000 I hope our audience got a lot out of that.

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00:37:07.000 Nothing is off limits.

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00:37:19.000 We're into it.

00:37:21.000 So we got Danny here and we got Daisy here.

00:37:24.000 Yay.

00:37:25.000 These, I just, I'm, you know.

00:37:29.000 I got nothing.

00:37:29.000 I'm an A. All right, here we go.

00:37:31.000 First question out of the gate is from Don.

00:37:34.000 Don, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:37:36.000 Please unmute yourself and welcome.

00:37:38.000 Hi, guys.

00:37:39.000 Thanks for taking my call.

00:37:41.000 Absolutely.

00:37:42.000 Welcome.

00:37:44.000 Yeah, I'm proud to be a member of Team Erica and I love you guys.

00:37:51.000 Thank you.

00:37:52.000 God bless you, man.

00:37:54.000 The question I have is a couple of weeks ago, the House voted to.

00:38:02.000 Tell Trump he couldn't go to war no more.

00:38:05.000 And I just wondering, I think I know what that really means, but I want to hear your thoughts on it.

00:38:12.000 Yeah, I mean, I got a bunch of thoughts on it.

00:38:14.000 Basically, to bring our audience up to speed, though, yeah, the vote happened June 3rd, I believe.

00:38:20.000 Like a week ago.

00:38:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:23.000 So it's got very limited ability to impact Trump's ability to prosecute the war or not.

00:38:30.000 It's mostly viewed as a symbolic gesture, a symbolic rebuke.

00:38:34.000 It passed, I'm looking here, 215 to 208.

00:38:37.000 Four Republicans, Thomas Massey, Brian Fitzpatrick, Tom Barrett, and Warren Davidson, joined the Democrats.

00:38:43.000 And in its language, it sort of says, hey, you got to withdraw your American troops, U.S. troops, from hostilities with Iran unless we declare a war.

00:38:54.000 Okay.

00:38:55.000 A lot of people think it's unconstitutional.

00:38:57.000 The Senate has advanced a similar measure, really, really narrow margins.

00:39:04.000 It doesn't have the weight of law behind it.

00:39:05.000 Essentially, it doesn't go to the president's desk to sign or to veto.

00:39:10.000 So it's limited real effect on Trump's powers.

00:39:13.000 But I would also add another point is that the individual most, it seems, consumed, obsessed with getting peace and finding a resolution to the conflicts is the president himself.

00:39:24.000 So I'm not sure what they were trying to sort of communicate here.

00:39:28.000 I mean, the president has spent the last two days trying to get the peace deal with a very difficult negotiation over the finish line so that we can open the strait, we can remove the blockade, that we can get the nuclear dust, that we can ensure that Iran never has a nuclear weapon again.

00:39:44.000 And again, I was not in favor of going in. 0.78

00:39:47.000 I was not in favor.

00:39:48.000 I can say it until I'm blue in the face, and it's like some people will never hear me say that.

00:39:52.000 I really wasn't. 0.77

00:39:53.000 I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon, but President Trump made the decision to do it. 0.61

00:39:58.000 And so at that point, you want him to win, and you want him to get what he went in for, and you don't want it to be in vain, okay? 0.81

00:40:04.000 So I would say I don't know what they're trying to communicate.

00:40:06.000 The president wants peace, the president's been working towards peace.

00:40:09.000 He wants to get this peace deal done.

00:40:11.000 JD Vance is very behind him and is working tirelessly to get it done.

00:40:15.000 So, I don't know what the House and the Senate were trying to get accomplished here other than trying to hamstring the president in the middle of a high stakes negotiation.

00:40:23.000 Yeah, it seemed like a dumb thing to do to me as well.

00:40:27.000 Yeah, I genuinely don't.

00:40:30.000 These symbolic votes just seem like a waste of time.

00:40:32.000 Yeah, it's like, listen, can you pass the Save America Act here?

00:40:35.000 Yeah, really?

00:40:37.000 Yeah, that's what we want.

00:40:40.000 I hope that answered your question, Don.

00:40:42.000 Yeah, it did.

00:40:42.000 Thank you.

00:40:43.000 God bless you, man.

00:40:43.000 Thank you for being Team Erica, of course, and Team Turning Point.

00:40:47.000 David, welcome to the show.

00:40:48.000 You're up next.

00:40:50.000 Welcome and please unmute yourself.

00:40:54.000 Hey, how are we doing today?

00:40:55.000 Doing great, David.

00:40:56.000 What's your question?

00:40:57.000 Excellent.

00:40:58.000 My question is, and I'll make it quick.

00:41:01.000 We're in California, we voted early because everybody said that we should vote early.

00:41:07.000 So basically, what happened is that it seems that the Democrats saw what they needed and started flying in ballots.

00:41:20.000 What are we supposed to do, or in your opinion, what should we do next for in December or in November?

00:41:28.000 November, yeah.

00:41:31.000 So, you know, you got to think about voting in states that have early voting, which is the vast majority of them.

00:41:38.000 You got to think of it like a basketball game or a sports competition.

00:41:43.000 There's four quarters, you got to win all four quarters, okay?

00:41:46.000 You got to win early.

00:41:49.000 When it starts, you got to win early in person, late, early, then you got to win in person.

00:41:54.000 So you got to kind of play it on all fronts.

00:41:57.000 So you didn't do anything wrong by voting early by any means.

00:42:02.000 Have you checked the status of your ballot, by the way?

00:42:04.000 Did you get any letters for requesting to redo your signature or anything like that?

00:42:10.000 Did you check it?

00:42:12.000 I checked it.

00:42:13.000 I kept checking it because I wanted to make sure there was cheating going on, and it kept saying that mine was.

00:42:21.000 Accepted and counted.

00:42:23.000 Okay.

00:42:24.000 All right.

00:42:24.000 Well, good.

00:42:25.000 So here's what I would say.

00:42:28.000 But we did have people in our group that they said the signatures didn't match, so they threw their votes out for certain people.

00:42:42.000 Did they get a chance to redo their signatures and get their votes counted?

00:42:48.000 Afterwards, yeah.

00:42:49.000 Okay.

00:42:50.000 Well, that's the process.

00:42:51.000 Curing the ballots is a legal process.

00:42:55.000 So, what I would say is a couple things.

00:42:57.000 First of all, we are for in person voting, day of, paper ballots.

00:43:02.000 I mean, that's what we want, right?

00:43:04.000 And we want the Save America app passed.

00:43:06.000 So, you have to prove your citizenship, you have to prove your identity, you have to show an ID.

00:43:11.000 All of those things are very important.

00:43:12.000 Until we get there, especially in places like California, especially for mayoral races and gubernatorial races, which they could still mandate whatever rules they want because that's the dividing of the powers here in the United States.

00:43:24.000 What the Save America Act will affect federal elections, right?

00:43:27.000 So when you're voting for president and Congress and all this stuff.

00:43:31.000 So there's going to still be problems at the state level, regardless of what we do.

00:43:35.000 California does have a signature verification or a voter ID resolution that's going to be on the ballot in November that does seem to be popular with.

00:43:43.000 Even the people of California.

00:43:44.000 So, we're going to work to help get that passed.

00:43:47.000 And I think that's going to add some wind in the sails.

00:43:49.000 But Charlie used to say this all the time, and Danny and Daisy will remember this that the movement is too big to fit into one day.

00:43:54.000 So, when we tell you vote early, what we're saying is don't get on election day and realize you're sick or get a flat tire or something, some emergency comes up and you don't get a chance to vote.

00:44:04.000 Get the ballot in.

00:44:07.000 What I had to do last election, I was still in California, I took my ballot into the voting center.

00:44:14.000 The day before.

00:44:15.000 And I dropped it in personally because I knew I was going to be busy all day with the election.

00:44:19.000 Yeah, that's what we were just talking about.

00:44:20.000 What day we typically like to vote.

00:44:22.000 I agree that I like to go in person, day of civic duty, get the sticker.

00:44:27.000 There's a great energy.

00:44:28.000 But last year, I mean, we were here literally for 48 hours in a row.

00:44:33.000 So I was like, You're talking 2024.

00:44:35.000 2024.

00:44:35.000 Yes.

00:44:36.000 I can't believe that was almost two years ago.

00:44:38.000 Wow.

00:44:39.000 That a lot of us actually filled out our ballots and then went to drop it off that day or went to vote early.

00:44:45.000 But locally, Local elections, I like to vote day of.

00:44:49.000 Yeah.

00:44:50.000 Yeah, I always vote day of.

00:44:52.000 And I'm just.

00:44:53.000 It's very simple for Danny.

00:44:54.000 Well, I'm from Chicago, too, so our elections are run very similar to LA.

00:44:58.000 Yeah.

00:44:59.000 So I'm always worried about it, so I always vote in person.

00:45:01.000 Listen, and you're not wrong for being suspicious.

00:45:04.000 I mean, we had Bill Asale on the show, you know, the first assistant U.S. attorney to Central District of California, and he said that the fraud is just baked in.

00:45:13.000 The fraud, it's structural fraud, and it needs to be dealt with.

00:45:16.000 It needs to be litigated, it needs to be prosecuted.

00:45:18.000 There's only so much he can do when the system is so.

00:45:21.000 Screwed up when you have mass mail in voting and lax ID or no ID, that's all they need.

00:45:29.000 That's all they need to cheat.

00:45:31.000 Next question Who do we got up next? 0.75

00:45:33.000 Caleb, Caleb, and Michelle.

00:45:35.000 Yep, welcome.

00:45:38.000 Hey, it's been too long.

00:45:40.000 Where have you been?

00:45:42.000 Uh, we've just been busy in North Carolina.

00:45:46.000 Uh, you know, it's having come from Minnesota, it is just a little bit surreal that we have a sports team here that's actually in the finals.

00:45:55.000 So, um You know, that's been consuming a lot of our time.

00:46:00.000 Fair enough.

00:46:02.000 My question is Amy Klobuchar is announced that she's running for governor of Minnesota, and she's announced her running mate as the former mayor of our hometown, Fergus Falls, Ben Shire.

00:46:15.000 And I don't know if you guys have been paying attention.

00:46:17.000 Maybe Blake is, but he's not here today.

00:46:20.000 But we're wondering if you think that they picked Ben Shire because either he's buddy buddy with Tim Walz or because Fergus Falls just Made it on the map because they're the home of the American Idol runner up, Chris Tung Seth.

00:46:39.000 I don't know about this specific story, but I would be more inclined to lean towards option one because I think that American Idol is heavily on the decline.

00:46:50.000 I don't know if you saw there was a winner from a couple years ago that was the winner, not even the runner up, and went back to busking in the subway in New York City to pay rent.

00:46:58.000 So I don't know.

00:47:00.000 I would lean more towards option one.

00:47:02.000 I don't know what you guys think.

00:47:02.000 The Tim Walz story sounds more believable.

00:47:04.000 What do you think, Dan?

00:47:05.000 I mean, yeah, I don't think American Idol has any relevance to politics.

00:47:09.000 I mean, maybe in small town Minnesota it does.

00:47:12.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:47:12.000 I don't know.

00:47:13.000 Listen, I think that's fine.

00:47:15.000 I think that's probably like, you know, maybe that factored in minimally.

00:47:19.000 I don't know, Caleb.

00:47:20.000 But, you know, the reason she picked Ben Shire is because he's a white dude with five kids from rural Minnesota.

00:47:27.000 So if you're going to win Minnesota, Minnesota, as you know, the margins are actually pretty tight.

00:47:32.000 And there's a lot of bad PR if you're a Democrat out of Minnesota this year.

00:47:37.000 So it's a very transparent play to appeal to rural white voters in Minnesota.

00:47:43.000 So, because he's from Western Minnesota, you know, he's a small town mayor, as you said.

00:47:49.000 So, that's what it's about. 0.99

00:47:50.000 She's trying to get outside of the Minneapolis St. Paul bubble and bring in the rest of the state.

00:47:56.000 You can be progressive, but not too progressive.

00:47:58.000 You still need.

00:47:59.000 Look at, we're normal people.

00:48:00.000 We're normal people.

00:48:03.000 We have five kids.

00:48:04.000 How do you not hate that?

00:48:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:07.000 Well, and definitely, I mean, yes, you're right.

00:48:09.000 Small town Minnesota, American Isles, a big deal.

00:48:11.000 I mean, they had parades, they had all sorts of events because, you know, hey, we got to.

00:48:16.000 We have a hometown guy on the national stage.

00:48:21.000 So, yeah.

00:48:22.000 But, yeah, you're probably right.

00:48:23.000 I think the Household's both on all three with the third one that we offered as well.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, it probably didn't hurt.

00:48:29.000 Let's be honest.

00:48:30.000 But, you know, I'm reading his bio right now.

00:48:32.000 I'm kind of surprised she didn't choose, like, a Somali, though. 1.00

00:48:35.000 I'm looking at you, man. 1.00

00:48:36.000 No, they already got that vote on lockdown.

00:48:38.000 You think the Somalis are at risk now with the Republicans going after them, trying to get the fraud and trying to deport them?

00:48:44.000 They know who butters their bread.

00:48:46.000 Okay. 1.00

00:48:46.000 The Somalis are on lock. 1.00

00:48:48.000 And they vote in the block, by the way.

00:48:50.000 So, they don't need to play to that.

00:48:51.000 They need to play to the skeptical white rural voters who think they've been taken for a ride, which they have.

00:48:58.000 You know, in this guy, he's got, I mean, listen, admittedly, they've been married a long time.

00:49:02.000 They have five children.

00:49:03.000 They own and operate two small businesses in downtown Fergus Falls Union Pizza and Brewing Company and Toast, which I think is another sort of restaurant.

00:49:12.000 So, he's been the mayor.

00:49:13.000 I mean, it's a good bio.

00:49:14.000 It kind of rounds out her ticket.

00:49:18.000 So, whatever.

00:49:19.000 Okay, but let's ask you guys the debate we were just having.

00:49:22.000 With this upcoming race, are you thinking of voting early, dropping off your ballot, day of?

00:49:26.000 Well, they're in North Carolina now.

00:49:28.000 What's?

00:49:29.000 We're residents of North Carolina.

00:49:31.000 Never mind then.

00:49:31.000 Yeah.

00:49:33.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:49:34.000 Well, they have a Senate race.

00:49:34.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 Whatley versus, what's his name?

00:49:39.000 Cooper?

00:49:40.000 We're going to need all the votes we can get there.

00:49:42.000 So, yeah.

00:49:43.000 Vote early, vote often.

00:49:44.000 I'm kidding. 0.86

00:49:46.000 But yeah, Whatley's got a heck of an uphill battle.

00:49:49.000 I haven't heard a ton of good news out of that race, unfortunately.

00:49:54.000 And that's North Carolina.

00:49:55.000 North Carolina is a funny red state in the sense that it has a lot of, you know, I think it's like a Democrat governor, Democrat attorney general.

00:50:07.000 Trump won it all three times, but it's just a funny state.

00:50:12.000 New Hampshire's kind of like that, where you get.

00:50:13.000 As well as Kentucky.

00:50:14.000 Yeah, where you get kind of a mix.

00:50:17.000 New Hampshire's the inverse, though, where it's like locally you get a bunch of red representation, federally you get blue.

00:50:22.000 So, anyways, thank you, Caleb and Michelle.

00:50:26.000 God bless you.

00:50:26.000 Great to hear from you again.

00:50:28.000 Who's up next?

00:50:29.000 Ellie.

00:50:29.000 Ellie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:50:33.000 Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question.

00:50:35.000 Absolutely.

00:50:36.000 My question would be What would you say to someone who really wants to travel to Amfest this year but has never been to a turning point event before?

00:50:45.000 Are you planning on it?

00:50:46.000 Are you thinking about it?

00:50:48.000 I want to, but it would be expensive to travel from where I live, and so I'm just kind of trying to feel everything out.

00:50:56.000 What part of the country are you in?

00:50:57.000 You can be vague.

00:50:58.000 I'm from Illinois.

00:51:00.000 Oh, come on.

00:51:01.000 There's, you know, I guess if you're in southern Illinois, it's tougher.

00:51:06.000 You'd have to like St. Louis or drive up to Chicago, but there's direct flights.

00:51:09.000 Wait, how old are you, Ellie?

00:51:11.000 I'm 22.

00:51:12.000 Okay, I think that you should totally come because there are so many young people that come and meet each other.

00:51:19.000 There are lots of events.

00:51:21.000 You can get to know people that are like minded.

00:51:23.000 Social hours.

00:51:24.000 There's breakouts.

00:51:28.000 It's a great event for all ages, but I would say the young people that show up and support make friendships that last forever.

00:51:36.000 There are so many cool experiences, booths you can visit, and You know, we do podcasts there, and yeah, I think you would have a really great time.

00:51:44.000 I am biased, but I have fun.

00:51:46.000 It will blow your mind.

00:51:48.000 There's no event really like it in the country.

00:51:51.000 You walk in, and it's kind of like visual overload, and there's all the media row and people doing interviews, and it's so much fun.

00:52:00.000 And I'm not a guy that really actually likes events, but it's a lot of fun.

00:52:06.000 And we think you should come.

00:52:08.000 I mean, there's not really a good excuse besides the money, but we like, I don't know if.

00:52:13.000 If I can be there having contractions at 39 weeks pregnant, you can come.

00:52:17.000 That's a compelling point.

00:52:18.000 Geez.

00:52:19.000 Guilt tripper.

00:52:21.000 We'll see you there, Ellie.

00:52:24.000 Good conversation is about respect.

00:52:27.000 It's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas and be heard.

00:52:31.000 Charlie knew that.

00:52:32.000 Turning Point still knows that.

00:52:33.000 And TikTok has always strived to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other.

00:52:43.000 When ideas meet respect, good things happen.

00:52:45.000 On TikTok, you can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name, or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers.

00:52:54.000 Viewers who listen, discuss, and then they respond.

00:52:56.000 TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of understanding.

00:53:00.000 You can feel it in the comments, in the thank you from a stranger halfway across the world.

00:53:05.000 TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for discussion, and discussion helps us build something real.

00:53:13.000 All right, who's next?

00:53:15.000 Kyrie.

00:53:16.000 Kyrie, welcome to the Charlie Cook Show.

00:53:19.000 Hey guys, happy Friday.

00:53:20.000 It's good to see you all and get to talk to you again.

00:53:24.000 Yeah.

00:53:25.000 Real quick, while I have the opportunity, Daisy, I absolutely love your eyes.

00:53:29.000 They're gorgeous.

00:53:30.000 Oh my gosh.

00:53:31.000 I'm glad you're on this show today, so I can tell you that.

00:53:31.000 Thank you.

00:53:35.000 That is so nice of you.

00:53:36.000 Thank you.

00:53:38.000 Well, I've always been fascinated with eyes.

00:53:40.000 And the first time, I think you were on with No Dumb Questions or something, maybe.

00:53:45.000 And I was like, oh, Daisy's eyes are gorgeous.

00:53:48.000 Anyway, my main question with the Carmel Anthony, Austin Metcalf thing this week, I mean, to me, it seems pretty cut and dried.

00:54:03.000 I work at a small shop in a small town.

00:54:07.000 We have like six employees. 0.55

00:54:09.000 One of them is Black.

00:54:11.000 I consider her a friend.

00:54:13.000 We've always been on good terms.

00:54:15.000 She's a Christian lady.

00:54:17.000 She had not even heard about this story.

00:54:20.000 Until Wednesday, one of my other co workers was talking about it, and she was like, Oh my, what's this?

00:54:25.000 And oh, well, this one boy stabbed this other boy, and oh, that's horrible.

00:54:30.000 Well, then when she found out that one of the boys was black, she immediately took his side, began making excuses for probably why he did it.

00:54:38.000 The other boy was probably saying something racist to him.

00:54:41.000 Some people don't even know they're racist, it's just the way they're raised.

00:54:45.000 And she got kind of antagonistic.

00:54:49.000 If she said, if she got to looking on her phone, she said, Oh, there weren't even any black people on the jury that tried him.

00:54:57.000 I didn't know enough about the details to come back with facts, but I was so caught off guard.

00:55:07.000 I mean, I would love to keep this lady as a friend. 0.99

00:55:12.000 We work together, you know.

00:55:16.000 I have been careful.

00:55:17.000 I know she voted for Kamala Harris, but we've always, you know, there's always been a good relationship there at the shop.

00:55:27.000 And I was just so, so hurt.

00:55:29.000 You know, I want to.

00:55:34.000 I'm not great at remembering facts and talking points and coming back to people and thinking fast on my feet.

00:55:42.000 But I really would like to know if you all have some tips or something I can say to this lady.

00:55:49.000 Because I really, it breaks my heart when I see people online that you don't know any better.

00:55:57.000 But she's so smart, and like I said, she's a Christian lady and so nice.

00:56:01.000 It just seems so obvious. 0.99

00:56:02.000 I mean, this boy, like, damn, he stabbed it. 0.99

00:56:06.000 Are you chomping at the bit here? 0.99

00:56:08.000 It's more so just like I remember Charlie always said, like, intentions don't matter when committing a crime.

00:56:08.000 No.

00:56:12.000 Like, just because you're poor doesn't mean you can go rob a bank.

00:56:15.000 Just because someone may, like, anger you at a track meet doesn't mean that you then get to stab somebody.

00:56:21.000 So I just ask her that and basically say, like, take race out of it because that has nothing to do with it.

00:56:27.000 Why does somebody, why are you siding with somebody that literally just murdered?

00:56:31.000 Yeah.

00:56:32.000 And why are we making this young man the victim?

00:56:35.000 Austin Metcalf is the victim.

00:56:37.000 He is dead.

00:56:38.000 He got a life sentence here.

00:56:40.000 Okay.

00:56:41.000 You know, Carmelo Anthony's probably going to be out on parole, let's say, in 10 years.

00:56:45.000 Okay.

00:56:46.000 You got a 35 year sentence.

00:56:47.000 He's not going to serve all that.

00:56:49.000 So you do have to hold people accountable when they do bad things.

00:56:52.000 Okay.

00:56:52.000 This was a terrible, egregious thing that has wrecked that family, wrecked his twin brother.

00:56:58.000 The other thing I would tell you is that you got to check out Sarah Fields.

00:57:01.000 We had her on the show yesterday. 0.99

00:57:03.000 Check out her Twitter ex feed.

00:57:05.000 She was in the courthouse during the trial.

00:57:09.000 She heard all the witness testimony.

00:57:12.000 Carmella was asked to leave upwards of 15 times, according to witness accounts.

00:57:16.000 Asked politely and then aggressively, probably. 0.95

00:57:20.000 But that doesn't mean that he deserved to die, that Austin Metcalf deserved to die.

00:57:25.000 He eventually was told to leave.

00:57:28.000 He wasn't under his own tent.

00:57:29.000 I don't know why he was so intent on being under there.

00:57:32.000 But then it was a slight shove, instantly killed him. 0.71

00:57:35.000 Instantly stabbed him right through the heart.

00:57:37.000 Well, and you can also ask your friend just a simple question why do you think it was right that Carmel Anthony was carrying this knife around at this track meet and so easily willing to just pull it out and stab somebody right away?

00:57:49.000 Yeah.

00:57:50.000 By the way, if he was just trying to get free from this really aggressive group, which doesn't sound like it was aggressive at all, why wouldn't he just pull it out and say, don't mess with me?

00:58:01.000 No, he pulled it out and he kept saying, you touch me and find out.

00:58:04.000 You touch me and find out.

00:58:05.000 And then he just literally.

00:58:07.000 You know, shivved him right in the heart.

00:58:09.000 It cut him so deep that it cut through the bone and cut his heart.

00:58:13.000 He bled to death instantly in his brother's arms.

00:58:17.000 Like, this should have, I mean, at the very worst, this should have been a little like fist fight at a high school fist fight, which happens.

00:58:23.000 Boys are going to fight sometimes.

00:58:25.000 But you don't pull out a knife instantly and, you know, murder somebody. 0.77

00:58:30.000 And there's a broader problem here the fact that, like, the media and the Democrats are brainwashing black people in this country so badly to think that when.

00:58:39.000 A murder happens, you don't know the details, you side with obviously common sense.

00:58:43.000 The person that murdered somebody's obviously in the wrong. 0.92

00:58:46.000 But then you find out they're black, and because you're brainwashed so badly, you then think the black person has to be the victim, even though they literally were the murderer and killed the victim. 0.98

00:58:57.000 And so there's a broader problem here, and we see this with the BLM, but it's still, even though BLM is calmed down, we still see this among black people. 0.98

00:59:04.000 The damage really is already done, and it's already baked in the cake. 0.99

00:59:09.000 That they really, the victim mentality is a real problem right now.

00:59:12.000 Yes, you will be miserable if you are constantly a victim.

00:59:15.000 And like you said, it's so obvious to read this story and hear about it and know what happened.

00:59:20.000 But like you said, you do want to keep your friend.

00:59:22.000 Like you believe this person is well intentioned.

00:59:25.000 And it can be kind of abrasive to go back to someone and be like, well, actually, here's what happened.

00:59:30.000 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

00:59:32.000 We have all these facts.

00:59:33.000 But as a friend, I would go back to her and be like, hey, have you heard this?

00:59:39.000 What does this make you think?

00:59:41.000 Is this right versus wrong?

00:59:43.000 And just try to encourage your friend to step.

00:59:45.000 Output transcript Out of that victim mentality because you don't want your friend to be miserable like that.

00:59:48.000 You don't want your friend to always assume that just because someone's black, they are right in this situation.

00:59:54.000 So I think it's worth having another conversation. 0.99

00:59:56.000 Or that just because somebody's black, they're the victim. 0.99

00:59:58.000 You know, there was a jury pool. 0.82

01:00:00.000 So they got this just so you know how this works.

01:00:02.000 The jury pool of 589 people was narrowed down to 12 jurors and six alternates.

01:00:08.000 No black jurors ended up on the final panel. 1.00

01:00:10.000 That part's true.

01:00:12.000 But apparently there were like three qualified that made it through all the other steps.

01:00:17.000 And they were rejected for reasons like they were educators, and that is apparently fair to do. 0.91

01:00:24.000 And there were other black folks that were trying to get on the jury that said, I don't think I can condemn a young black man, I don't think I can find him guilty. 1.00

01:00:34.000 And they were rightly dismissed because you can't have a jury if they're just going to vote along tribal lines. 0.54

01:00:40.000 That's not what it's about.

01:00:41.000 It's about you have to assess the facts and then make a determination of guilt or innocence based on the facts.

01:00:47.000 That's what a jury does.

01:00:49.000 And if you're not able to do that, then that's a problem.

01:00:52.000 And there's just so much misinformation, by the way, going on around social media about he was self defense, that Austin Metcalf basically impaled himself when he came out.

01:01:02.000 No.

01:01:03.000 All of those facts are complete misinformation, disinformation being spread around on the internet.

01:01:07.000 I can tell you, as somebody who's dealt with a lot of this lately, it's wild.

01:01:10.000 It just runs rampant and people just say fake things and lies.

01:01:14.000 Yeah.

01:01:15.000 And then all of a sudden people believe it.

01:01:16.000 So I think, I think, To Daisy's point, it sounds like this gal's a really sweet person.

01:01:21.000 So let's assume the best.

01:01:22.000 By the way, there's a lot of black people on social media that are saying really good things, actually, and most of them tend to be Christians, and they're pushing back against this narrative.

01:01:34.000 So maybe find some of those clips and share them with your friend if it feels appropriate.

01:01:37.000 But you are living proof that her victim mentality or this instant instinct to assume guilt or wrongdoing on behalf of the jurors or the prosecution or the judge.

01:01:50.000 You're living proof.

01:01:52.000 Is this your store, by the way, that you own, or are you just another person that works there?

01:01:56.000 No, I'm an employee.

01:01:58.000 There's the boss and the boss's daughter, and then like four others of us. 0.66

01:02:02.000 Are they white? 0.95

01:02:04.000 Yes, everybody is just one.

01:02:06.000 Listen, they hired her and they love her and they treat her well.

01:02:11.000 There's no issue there.

01:02:12.000 You guys are the living embodiment that this racial strife and animosity doesn't exist, that she doesn't need to feel instantly victimized.

01:02:22.000 So I just say.

01:02:24.000 You be the living proof that we don't have to live this way.

01:02:27.000 We don't have to be at each other all the time, attacking each other just because of the color of their skin.

01:02:33.000 So, thank you for your question.

01:02:36.000 Okay.

01:02:37.000 Thank you, guys.

01:02:38.000 Is that helpful?

01:02:40.000 Hopefully, that was good.

01:02:42.000 I mean, it reaffirmed some of what I was already thinking.

01:02:46.000 I don't know that it's going to be really easy to get her in a place where the others aren't around because I don't want her to feel like she's being ganged up on.

01:02:54.000 The others of us feel the same way, but she doesn't.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, but maybe you don't need to do the conversation like tomorrow.

01:03:01.000 Maybe it's a month from now, you know, when the tensions are less.

01:03:06.000 I think just ask good questions, and your role as a friend is just to help her think through these things critically.

01:03:12.000 And just let her know that you're her friend.

01:03:13.000 Yeah, I think that's cool.

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01:04:31.000 I want to know this.

01:04:32.000 I want this question from Gina.

01:04:34.000 Gina, welcome to the show.

01:04:36.000 What is your question?

01:04:37.000 Well, I sort of thought your enthusiasm was telling.

01:04:42.000 And you said, I hope somebody asks about this.

01:04:46.000 Tell us about what happened.

01:04:49.000 Yes.

01:04:51.000 So here's what happened.

01:04:53.000 So, cafeteria workers, I mean, it's the janitors, too.

01:04:57.000 Yeah, janitors, all this stuff.

01:04:58.000 So, what Elon Musk has done so, when you're starting a company, cash flow is really tough, right?

01:05:04.000 You got to keep the money coming in.

01:05:06.000 And so, what he did for a long time now, he's been offering sort of below market.

01:05:10.000 So, you get paid a little bit less to do jobs, right?

01:05:15.000 And they have fully integrated their cafeteria.

01:05:16.000 So, it's not like an outside company.

01:05:19.000 These are actual SpaceX employees, like cafeteria, cooks, janitors, all this stuff.

01:05:23.000 And in exchange for taking a little bit less, they get stock options.

01:05:27.000 They get this really kind of broad equity sharing model within SpaceX.

01:05:33.000 And so all the cafeteria workers are basically anybody that took advantage of those stock options, which I'm sure is going to be the vast majority of them because it was an obvious call.

01:05:43.000 They're all millionaires now, which is amazing.

01:05:47.000 So, I mean, a lot of them probably were able to exercise these options probably around like 20 to 30 bucks.

01:05:53.000 And now the stock is trading at what, like right now, it's like 170.

01:05:57.000 170 175 or so, even if they had a pretty small amount of stock, uh, they just made a lot of money.

01:06:03.000 And yeah, estimates have it at about 4,400 current and former SpaceX employees will become millionaires from the IPO.

01:06:12.000 And this group explicitly includes cafeteria workers and other hourly and support staff.

01:06:17.000 So that is unusual, just to be clear.

01:06:21.000 In the space, normally these people don't get stock options, you give stock options to like you know your managers, your you know your contracts.

01:06:29.000 When you do a contract with an actual Salaried employee, you get stock options as part of that package.

01:06:35.000 Nope, not in Elon's world.

01:06:37.000 So, I just think it's great because, you know, everybody goes, you know, AOC, tax the rich, you know, too many billionaires, Elon's evil, all this stuff.

01:06:45.000 Well, guess what?

01:06:46.000 The way he runs his companies is brilliant because they're all bought in.

01:06:49.000 Well, that's how capitalism works.

01:06:50.000 Capitalism creates more wealth, and socialism just takes people's wealth.

01:06:55.000 Yeah.

01:06:55.000 Well, they have a problem with it.

01:06:56.000 Elon's a builder, and he makes things, and I love it.

01:06:59.000 So, I'm a big fan.

01:07:01.000 So, here's to you, SpaceX cafeteria working millionaires.

01:07:05.000 Good on you.

01:07:06.000 That is the American dream.

01:07:08.000 Changing lives.

01:07:09.000 Changing lots of lives.

01:07:09.000 That is amazing.

01:07:10.000 Yeah.

01:07:11.000 And the stock's just rip roaring.

01:07:12.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:07:13.000 It might crash a bit or come back down to Earth, which is a good SpaceX expression.

01:07:18.000 But yes, I love that story.

01:07:20.000 What's our next question?

01:07:21.000 Kathy Rose.

01:07:22.000 Kathy Rose, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:07:24.000 Unmute yourself.

01:07:25.000 Thank you, Andrew.

01:07:27.000 Thank you for having me.

01:07:28.000 And God bless you all.

01:07:29.000 Oh, God bless you too.

01:07:30.000 Thank you.

01:07:31.000 Yes, thank you.

01:07:33.000 My question is how can I talk with friends who are very, very, Politically disengaged, even though they're super conservative.

01:07:44.000 I've grown up and been very blessed to be surrounded by a very close knit Christian community.

01:07:52.000 We've all been at the same church since we were babies, worked at the same companies, everything. 0.66

01:07:58.000 But I think, kind of in part because of that, we are so insulated from everything that goes on outside that if I That, like, no, none of my friends would even know that transgender maybe even is a thing, except for we see these weird, like, blue haired, funny looking people in Olympia, Washington. 0.65

01:08:21.000 My, none of my friends would ever consider anything like an abortion.

01:08:27.000 But then over the last year, like, ever since President Trump launched his 2024 campaign, I don't even really remember why, but I started really getting into it.

01:08:37.000 And then watching Charlie's videos, I was like, whoa, this is really important.

01:08:42.000 What is going on with our country?

01:08:45.000 But when I talk with my friends about it, they're like, yeah, I don't really care about that at all.

01:08:52.000 And so I just want to, I'm like, hmm, how do I talk with them without just coming across like, oh, this is Kathy Rose's spiel and actually really genuinely catch their attention?

01:09:06.000 Well, you are basically, it sounds like you're dealing with a low propensity voter problem, which is what we do over at Turning Point Action, right?

01:09:15.000 So, our whole program is designed to get you and your friends out to vote because we know that you're ideologically aligned, that you believe all the same stuff, but for some reason you are disengaged.

01:09:26.000 And by the way, I think about 25% of evangelical voters in the country don't even vote.

01:09:32.000 So, it sounds like this is your friend group, which is not good because, you know, especially, you know, they used to say this all the time in the pulpits like, don't politicize my Christianity.

01:09:43.000 Well, don't politicize my religious experience.

01:09:46.000 Well, guess what?

01:09:47.000 Your politics is getting more religious.

01:09:49.000 They're talking about the very foundation of God's design for male and female.

01:09:56.000 So, you have to bring these things home.

01:09:58.000 So, what we do is we basically, in a nice way, I have to watch when these things get clipped.

01:10:04.000 In a nice way, harass your friends.

01:10:06.000 Because that's kind of what we do.

01:10:08.000 When we do Chase the Vote, it's like, here's a text.

01:10:10.000 Hey, have you got your ballot in?

01:10:11.000 Hey, have you filled it out?

01:10:12.000 Can I come help you fill it out?

01:10:13.000 Can I come help you drop it off?

01:10:16.000 Can we do it?

01:10:16.000 And then we bring cookies and we do, you know, Barbecues in the park, and you build up something called social guilt.

01:10:24.000 It's actually a thing that they've studied where, when it comes time to vote, they feel kind of obligated because you've been so devoted to getting them nicely, nicely again.

01:10:33.000 You want to be like kind of the mayor of when it comes to this?

01:10:37.000 You've been nicely encouraging them, nicely reminding them, nicely telling them about how important it is to get engaged in your civic process.

01:10:45.000 And so when it comes time to vote, they feel an obligation to sort of make you happy and kind of make good on their end of the deal.

01:10:51.000 So that's what I would say.

01:10:53.000 Chase the vote.

01:10:53.000 Thank you.

01:10:54.000 We really have to get to the next question, but I did just want to say that goes back to the conversation we were having with Kyrie about so much of being a good friend is asking them questions and forcing them to think about these things.

01:11:03.000 Because when we all have common sense and think of right versus wrong, it's easy to think, oh, this is obviously right.

01:11:09.000 Everyone must think this way.

01:11:10.000 So you might need to get them more theologically engaged and understand what's happening by just asking them questions.

01:11:18.000 Okay, we want to read Mix.

01:11:20.000 Mix said, I had a very liberal family member in town ask me why I was still on the Trump train.

01:11:24.000 I explained to her that I have my frustrations with the admin, but I would still vote for him.

01:11:28.000 But I warned her the off ramp for young guys like me is to the very far right with Iran. 0.68

01:11:32.000 How do we communicate to the admin that we need to wrap this up while also keeping the young guns from veering into more anti Semitic? 0.90

01:11:37.000 Accelerationist win? 0.60

01:11:40.000 That's a big question, Danny.

01:11:41.000 Thankfully, it is wrapping up.

01:11:43.000 But another thing is just look at this morning with Tulsi Gabbard, the wins and stuff that would have never happened under a liberal administration.

01:11:51.000 And just you have to show them that stuff's actually getting done.

01:11:54.000 Look at the closed border.

01:11:55.000 I mean, the border is actually so good that they now just like.

01:11:58.000 Nobody even talks about it.

01:11:59.000 Don't even talk about it.

01:12:00.000 It doesn't matter.

01:12:01.000 It's fine.

01:12:01.000 So you really just need to keep showing people the wins that we have got.

01:12:06.000 Yeah.

01:12:07.000 And it could always be worse with. 1.00

01:12:09.000 Kamala Harris, if she was our president. 0.98

01:12:10.000 Can you imagine? 1.00

01:12:11.000 We would have lost the country.

01:12:13.000 So, yeah, we lost 13 service members, a tragedy.

01:12:16.000 This is not a forever war.

01:12:17.000 And if you get out of it and they don't have nukes, it's not the worst thing ever.

01:12:23.000 You got to keep them from diving into nihilism, though.

01:12:25.000 That's the key. 0.96

01:12:26.000 And this, you know, Jew hate, scapegoating stuff's a dead end. 0.99

01:12:29.000 No black pilling. 0.99

01:12:30.000 No black pilling.

01:12:32.000 We don't fight because we know we're going to win. 0.93

01:12:33.000 We fight because it's the right thing to do.

01:12:39.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 12, 2026

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