The Charlie Kirk Show - Tulsi Gabbard, Domestic Terrorist?

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00:00:01.000 Tulsi Gabbard and Mark Mitchell about recent polling.

00:00:04.000 Tulsi Gabbard getting on the Quiet Skies list.

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00:01:18.000 Joining us now is great American patriot Tulsi Gabbard.

00:01:22.000 Tulsi, welcome to the program.

00:01:23.000 I encourage everyone to check out your book, For Love of Country.

00:01:26.000 Also, TulsiGabbard.com.

00:01:28.000 So Tulsi, let's cut to the BS.

00:01:30.000 What should we think of Tim Walz with all of this stolen valor nonsense that is being discovered in the last week?

00:01:37.000 Your thoughts.

00:01:39.000 I am learning a lot about this.

00:01:40.000 I served with him in Congress, was aware marginally of his 24 years of service in the National Guard, but had no idea about much of what is being exposed here.

00:01:52.000 Seems like day after day there are more people coming forward and pointing out things that he has said that have completely misrepresented his record of service.

00:02:02.000 You know, the two that really cut to the core are, you know, you can serve our country honorably, you can serve in the Reserve, the National Guard, or active duty, but don't pretend or say that you have gone to quote-unquote war when you have not.

00:02:20.000 And he did not.

00:02:22.000 And he apparently over and over and over has made it appear, wanting people to believe that he has, which is, it's not only sad, it's an affront to people who have gone and deployed to war multiple times, as many of us have.

00:02:38.000 The second thing is his decision to leave and retire as soon as he found out that his battalion As a senior enlisted leader, that his battalion was given notice that they were going to deploy to Iraq in 2005.

00:02:54.000 That was the year that I was there.

00:02:56.000 Our unit was given notice in 2004.

00:02:58.000 We would be there for all of 2005, right in the heart of the Sunni triangle. 1.00

00:03:03.000 When he was given notice that his unit was going, he said no, and he retired.

00:03:09.000 For those of us that are civilians, can you give us something analogous of what that would mean to just kind of turn your back on your battalion?

00:03:17.000 I want to be very careful with my word selection.

00:03:19.000 What should we think of that person's character?

00:03:22.000 I mean, I can tell you...

00:03:24.000 I can tell you about my own experience and my own decision.

00:03:28.000 In 2004, I was a state representative in Hawaii.

00:03:31.000 I was campaigning for re-election, what looked to be a very easy re-election.

00:03:35.000 I'd served one term, or was serving the end of one term at that point, when our National Guard unit was Given notice, it was going to be called up for an 18-month-long deployment.

00:03:47.000 I was in a medical headquarters unit at the time.

00:03:49.000 My commander called and said, hey, congratulations, you are not on the mandatory deployment roster.

00:03:53.000 We've got somebody filling the job that you're trained in.

00:03:56.000 You can stay at home.

00:03:57.000 You can finish campaigning for re-election.

00:03:59.000 You continue your service in the state legislature.

00:04:02.000 And my answer to him was no, there's no way that I will stay home and wave goodbye to my brothers and sisters in uniform as they deploy off to the other side of the world At the height of the Iraq War and stay back in beautiful Hawaii.

00:04:18.000 There was no way I would allow that to happen.

00:04:20.000 And in uniform, while I was a state legislator in Hawaiian uniform, my rank was very low.

00:04:26.000 I was a specialist in E4.

00:04:29.000 But I knew that there was no way that I could stay home and wave goodbye to them.

00:04:35.000 You look at Tim Walz in a similar situation where he had already decided he wanted to run for Congress.

00:04:40.000 Maybe he hadn't started his campaign yet.

00:04:43.000 And he was given that similar kind of heads up that I was back in 2004.

00:04:49.000 And instead of choosing to stand with his unit, he was then either an E8, a master sergeant, or he was actually in the command sergeant major role in his unit, which is the senior enlisted leader.

00:05:04.000 Whose job it is to take care of soldiers, to lead soldiers, and he chose not to go.

00:05:11.000 And he chose to allow them to go to war and deploy without him.

00:05:16.000 So, similarly to this idea of the entire Harris-Walls ticket and what's going on with the federal government, after Joe Biden announced that he was not running for re-election, you went on Laura Ingraham and said how dangerous she would be as commander-in-chief.

00:05:31.000 The next day, you were then put on a terror watch list called Quiet Skies.

00:05:37.000 Tell our audience all about this.

00:05:38.000 This is chilling.

00:05:40.000 Yeah, it was July 22nd when I went on Laura Ingraham's show and all of this news was breaking and I said, issued the same warning that I issued back in 2019 when she was running for president in the Democratic primary, as was I, how dangerous she would be as president and commander-in-chief.

00:05:58.000 The very next day, what I experienced was the beginning of what would be multiple flights of in-depth screening by TSA.

00:06:07.000 30 to 45 minutes of search of me and every single article of everything that was in my carry-on in-depth screening.

00:06:17.000 I saw there were more TSA K-9 teams in the airport.

00:06:22.000 It wasn't until actually the first week of August that air marshals came forward and disclosed that I was added to this Quiet Skies list on July 23rd, the very same day that I started to experience TSA PreCheck no longer worked in this heightened security around My movements and later found out that there were at least three air marshals on every single flight that I was on.

00:06:47.000 Here's what is at the core of this.

00:06:50.000 This is clearly political retaliation, a violation of my First Amendment rights to free speech, and a violation of my Fourth Amendment rights in a right to privacy, and has put me in a position now, and I'm not alone, there are others on this list, so this is not just about me, but in a position now where I don't know what other government agencies are surveilling me and my movements, reading my text messages, surveilling emails, or listening to phone calls, and now forever having this stress of looking over my shoulder because my government

00:07:24.000 has chosen to deem me as a potential domestic terror threat.

00:07:29.000 I have no idea.

00:07:30.000 They haven't provided grounds.

00:07:32.000 There is no evidence.

00:07:33.000 There is no due process, neither for me nor anyone else who's on this list, who may not even know they're on this list.

00:07:39.000 Members of Congress don't have access to this list.

00:07:43.000 It is an egregious situation that is unconstitutional.

00:07:47.000 And provides some insight into what kind of regime we would live under if Kamala Harris is elected as president.

00:07:55.000 It's a very, very serious threat, not only because of what I'm going through, but because this is what we have to look forward to in this kind of political retaliatory action.

00:08:05.000 And just so everyone understands that there have been, that we know of, 99 people on the terror watch list released into the interior of the United States from the southern border, and yet the federal government is using manpower and resources to act as if you're going to go blow up an airplane.

00:08:22.000 This is purely tyrannical.

00:08:25.000 It is insane.

00:08:26.000 And oh, by the way, for as long as this Quiet Skies domestic terror watchlist system has been in place, the TSA has not issued a single arrest, nor have they foiled a single domestic terror plot.

00:08:41.000 Not a single one.

00:08:42.000 They have nothing to show for the hundreds of millions of dollars that they dedicate towards this.

00:08:47.000 Almost half of their budget to the American people.

00:08:51.000 And it is purely targeting everyday Americans.

00:08:55.000 like me. So I just I'm trying to understand the whole idea of this program is that we're going to

00:09:00.000 give you extra screening and enhanced attention. This seems to be more about chilling speech

00:09:07.000 than actually protection because of course there's additional surveillance. But if the

00:09:11.000 TSA was actually doing their job, then why would they have to give additional screening? Right.

00:09:15.000 It means you have a bomb in your backpack or you don't. 0.92

00:09:18.000 This seems as if it is outright intimidation saying, Tulsi, shut up or else we're going to 0.96

00:09:23.000 have to go raid your apartment next.

00:09:25.000 That's exactly right. And.

00:09:27.000 And it does have that chilling effect, not only on me, again, wondering how is what I am saying in exercising my right to free speech going to affect me in the sense of my government and law enforcement and the national security state being weaponized against me?

00:09:46.000 And not only me, by the way.

00:09:47.000 My husband, who was traveling with me on July 23rd, has also been subjected to this.

00:09:53.000 He is also getting that Quad S stamp on his boarding pass that subjects him to the very same screening that I have.

00:10:01.000 And this continues on to this day.

00:10:03.000 What has he done?

00:10:04.000 He's done nothing.

00:10:07.000 It has this chilling effect, not only on me, but on people who are watching this.

00:10:12.000 Check out Tulsi's book.

00:10:13.000 You also can look at TulsiGabbard.com.

00:10:15.000 It's For Love of Country.

00:10:16.000 This is anarcho-tyranny, where you can come into the country and no one will stop you.

00:10:21.000 Millions and millions of people.

00:10:22.000 But if you have political views that disagree with the current regime, they will surveil you.

00:10:27.000 They will intimidate you.

00:10:28.000 They will chill you.

00:10:30.000 And we see this with Steve Bannon right now in federal prison.

00:10:32.000 Peter Navarro went to federal prison.

00:10:34.000 And this is not just what will happen if Kamala Harris... She's currently the vice president. 1.00

00:10:39.000 She's calling the shots right now.

00:10:41.000 And she wants to shut up all the dissidents. 0.99

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00:11:46.000 So Tulsi, you ran against Kamala Harris and was largely responsible for starting the narrative against her as a fake.

00:11:53.000 How do you best now recommend and suggest that we run up against Kamala Harris in this propaganda-filled media environment that we find ourselves in?

00:12:03.000 Yeah, it's real.

00:12:04.000 And it's noticeable for anybody who was paying attention how quickly the mainstream propaganda media flipped the switch and immediately started, you know, this revisionist history and the Borders Are example.

00:12:17.000 Of course, everyone has seen these videos of even the mainstream media saying, well, she's the Borders Are and she's responsible for border security.

00:12:23.000 This is the task Joe Biden gave her.

00:12:25.000 And then right after he endorsed her to be the Democratic nominee, they're saying, well, no, she was never the border czar.

00:12:31.000 That was never her job.

00:12:32.000 So they're not even trying to be sneaky about this.

00:12:36.000 So number one is just calling them out for what it is.

00:12:39.000 But to me, the most important thing is recognizing what her record has been as President Biden's partner over the last three and a half years.

00:12:49.000 And it is an abysmal Terrible, horrific record when we think about what is in the best interest of our country in every respect.

00:12:57.000 The best way to be able to defeat her is by speaking the truth about her record when it comes to our own border security, when it comes to domestic policy, when it comes to her championing our children being violated both in the classroom and the sexualization of our kids and propagating and pushing these irreversible Gender mutilation surgeries, what to speak of foreign policy, what to speak of the economy. 0.86

00:13:23.000 There are so many different issues where her record is abysmal when we look at it through the context of what's in the best interest of the American people.

00:13:32.000 And then you compare and contrast the truth about her failures with President Trump's record.

00:13:38.000 We don't have to take his word for it.

00:13:39.000 We can look at what his record was as president for four years.

00:13:44.000 Yes, and so how then, just from a strategic standpoint, do we get the message out when she will not even do a sit-down interview, where she will not take questions from reporters?

00:13:55.000 This is a sad state of the modern Democrat Party.

00:13:57.000 I know you talk about this in your book.

00:13:59.000 The Democrat Party won't even talk to the press.

00:14:01.000 I thought that they're all about like open democracy and reporters are the best things ever and that reporters are like close to sainthood.

00:14:10.000 Yet she has such low respect for the people and for reporters that she won't even sit down for an interview. 0.99

00:14:15.000 And that's that is exactly the point that that we need to keep reminding people of is that she wants to be our president and commander in chief. 0.99

00:14:24.000 And yet she refuses to speak to us.

00:14:28.000 Through journalists, through the media.

00:14:29.000 I mean, she won't even talk to the media who are likely to do puff pieces on her and softball interviews. 0.99

00:14:36.000 And I think it just reveals, again, how do you expect us to believe that you are capable of being President, Commander-in-Chief when you can't even handle a single interview or a single press conference?

00:14:46.000 And I think contrasting that again with President Trump's press conference the other day, where he went for over an hour.

00:14:52.000 I think he answered, what, 50 questions over that period of time?

00:14:56.000 An open book, transparent, speaking to the American people and being true to who he is and the problems he sees in the country and how he seeks to solve them.

00:15:05.000 I think this debate coming up is going to be very revealing where she won't be able to have a teleprompter and it will provide that opportunity to expose her in the same way that I did back in 2019.

00:15:20.000 Of how unprepared she is and how lacking she is on substance.

00:15:24.000 She's going to try to smile her way through this election. 1.00

00:15:27.000 We can't allow people to fall for that.

00:15:29.000 So if you were in the room doing debate prep for President Trump, I hope you are.

00:15:34.000 I'm going to push for that because you're one of the few people that's actually debated against Kamala Harris.

00:15:38.000 So I'm going to make a phone call after this.

00:15:40.000 I think you should be on the team.

00:15:42.000 What would you say?

00:15:43.000 What tactically, tonally, and policy-wise advice would you give?

00:15:47.000 About a minute and a half remaining.

00:15:50.000 The way President Trump carried himself and projected himself during his debate with President Biden, I think, is the same approach that he should take with Kamala Harris and just confront her with her record.

00:16:05.000 She will be forced to respond.

00:16:08.000 Doing that and taking that approach, speaking facts about her record, puts her on defense, and she's shown she is not very capable of a strong defense.

00:16:18.000 Because there isn't one.

00:16:20.000 That is exactly right.

00:16:21.000 Well, I encourage everyone to check out your book, For Love of Country.

00:16:24.000 Thank you so much, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:16:25.000 Thank you.

00:16:26.000 I appreciate it, Charlie.

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00:17:32.000 Joining us now is Mark Mitchell, head pollster for Rasmussen Reports.

00:17:36.000 So, Mark, I don't envy you right now, because I'm sure you're doing a lot of interviews where the host is panicking, and they're, Mark, tell me it's not true!

00:17:44.000 Tell me it's not true!

00:17:45.000 Maybe not, but at least, if you had any window into my phone yesterday, I had at least nine different people, some donors, some activists, Charlie, what's going on with this?

00:17:53.000 New York Times, Siena Poll, what's going on here?

00:17:55.000 So, Mark Mitchell, tell us, what is the true state of the race, Kamala versus Trump?

00:18:01.000 Well, I think we've built up a lot of trust and the people who are following us, let me tell you, are not freaking out because exactly what's playing out right now in our numbers is what I predicted.

00:18:11.000 Donald Trump was beating Joe Biden all year, up very comfortably.

00:18:15.000 And the entire time we were polling on Kamala Harris, every time we poll, she's slightly less favorable than Biden.

00:18:21.000 She underperforms him by maybe one point against Trump.

00:18:24.000 And I said, well, if they switcheroo, like nobody really cares on the Democrat side who the candidate is.

00:18:29.000 The numbers we are going to see are the exact same.

00:18:32.000 Before and after.

00:18:33.000 Now, you know, there's always bounces and swings happen, and we absolutely saw that in our data.

00:18:38.000 We poll every night, and I tell you what, every other pollster is polling every night as well, and what they saw is the same thing I saw in my data, which is, the very first night, you know, out of the blue, everybody's like, Kamala Harris, the switcheroo happened, Donald Trump beat her by 16 nights in a matchup.

00:18:53.000 The very, uh, 16 points.

00:18:54.000 The very next night, it was down to 6 points, and then for a couple days, Kamala Harris, in our polling, actually beat Donald Trump by 2 or 3 points.

00:19:02.000 But then it all faded.

00:19:03.000 It's gone.

00:19:04.000 The bounce is over.

00:19:05.000 And we've been polling every night, putting out our big polls on Thursday.

00:19:09.000 That's a, you know, cumulative aggregate of all of the data.

00:19:13.000 And what I'm starting to notice is that nobody's putting out polls this week.

00:19:18.000 Everybody watching this should go to Real Clear Politics and just, you know, look at the race right now and the general election 2024 race.

00:19:26.000 There have only been two polls.

00:19:28.000 put out that have data any fresher than August 4th. So what I think is happening is I think the

00:19:34.000 entire polling industry is trying to carry water for the Democrats right now. There was a slew of

00:19:40.000 polls that came out when she became the candidate and you're telling me all of a sudden 84 days to

00:19:45.000 the election she just picked her vice presidential running mate and not a single poll except for like 0.62

00:19:49.000 YouGov and Rasmussen. The New York Times Sienna one which was so can you help us kind of deconstruct

00:19:55.000 that one. That one was just like three swing states.

00:19:59.000 They picked the three swing states that were worse for Donald Trump.

00:20:03.000 And listen, here's the thing.

00:20:05.000 Trust is very important.

00:20:06.000 People talk about transparency in polling.

00:20:09.000 Let me tell you, if I wanted to, I could do whatever I wanted with these numbers.

00:20:14.000 There's no amount of transparency that would make up for an unscrupulous pollster.

00:20:19.000 And let me tell you how we're different from New York Times, Sienna.

00:20:21.000 New York Times has a huge revenue line.

00:20:24.000 They have a ton of money that they can throw at polling, and it doesn't really matter to them if they're accurate or not.

00:20:30.000 If our polling is inaccurate, we go out of business.

00:20:33.000 So I'm trying very hard not to be biased, to find the biases, to put out accurate numbers.

00:20:39.000 And if I see no pollsters out there, Doing general election matchups?

00:20:44.000 That tells me that they're seeing the same numbers I am, and I just refuse to publish the poll.

00:20:50.000 New York Times' Sienna, I'm sure, was in the poll this whole last week asking general election matchups. 1.00

00:20:57.000 So where are their numbers?

00:20:58.000 Why didn't they put them out?

00:21:00.000 When are they going to stick their neck out and show that Kamala Harris, the honeymoon's gone. 1.00

00:21:04.000 It's faded.

00:21:06.000 You know, there's no amount of bounce based on just press and zero accomplishments.

00:21:11.000 I mean, all the questions we've asked about her record are absolutely horrible.

00:21:15.000 People think she failed as the borders are.

00:21:17.000 People think her economic policies are going to be way worse than Trump's.

00:21:20.000 So I mean, to me, that's the fundamentals of the race.

00:21:23.000 And again, sometimes info ops are successful.

00:21:27.000 They do seem to be thrown very rapidly at people like one after the other.

00:21:31.000 No, Trump didn't get shot.

00:21:32.000 Yes, J.D.

00:21:33.000 Vance is weird.

00:21:35.000 You know, these things happen and they kind of work.

00:21:37.000 Right now, I think pollsters are ducking and hiding and waiting for maybe the beginning of the DNC, or I don't know, maybe while we're talking right now, everybody's dropping their polls.

00:21:48.000 But I just don't see how, based on where my numbers were before the switcheroo and after the switcheroo, how anybody, I mean, Trump was up like three points in the Real Clear Politics aggregate before the switcheroo.

00:22:00.000 It's going to go right back to that if it hasn't already.

00:22:03.000 So, let's just repeat, what do your numbers show right now?

00:22:06.000 What do your numbers show in Arizona?

00:22:07.000 What do they show in Georgia?

00:22:08.000 Pennsylvania?

00:22:09.000 Not the national polls, but walk us through kind of the... So, if Donald Trump wins Pennsylvania, Georgia, he's president, because he's going to win Iowa, he'll win North Carolina, he'll win Ohio, he'll win Florida.

00:22:19.000 I already have those in the safe category.

00:22:22.000 So, therefore, if he wins Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona would be nice, but it's not as necessary.

00:22:26.000 It's done.

00:22:26.000 So, let's go one by one.

00:22:27.000 What does your polling show in Pennsylvania?

00:22:29.000 I just want to step back, and again, the top line national numbers.

00:22:32.000 Last time we put the big one out, five points up Trump in a national election poll, right?

00:22:37.000 So that is like a 12 or 13 points reversal from where he was four years ago.

00:22:43.000 I just want everybody to understand that as a context for the swing states.

00:22:46.000 Polling in swing states is hard, especially now that everybody goes to online panels.

00:22:51.000 The online panels in the states are really small, and every swing state poll is smaller than a national poll.

00:22:57.000 It's going to have a larger margin of error.

00:22:59.000 We went into the swing states in July, and in every single one of the six swing states in a multi-way matchup, we had Donald Trump up from one points all the way up to nine points in Arizona.

00:23:10.000 We had him up five in Georgia.

00:23:11.000 I think we had him up three or four in Pennsylvania.

00:23:14.000 So we had Trump Comfortably winning every single one of the swing states closest to Michigan tied in a two way.

00:23:20.000 But again, there's a larger margin of error there.

00:23:22.000 But what's important to point out in that poll, that particular sample, when it was all collected, Trump was winning three points nationally.

00:23:30.000 So for real clear politics aggregate to have Trump up three nationally, I don't care what the swing states say, they're going to probably look pretty similar to mine, right?

00:23:39.000 And we'll have to see, right?

00:23:41.000 There's tricks that people are going to do when they put these swing states out that can Pick when to, specifically when to sample.

00:23:48.000 They can aggressively squash results that they think are outlier data points.

00:23:54.000 They can surreptitiously switch the way that they weight and oversample Democrats versus Republicans.

00:24:00.000 That's one of the tactics I think a lot of people are using right now.

00:24:03.000 I can proudly say we're Democrat plus two, we might go to Democrat plus three, but I tell people if I'm going to shift them, I'm not going to do D plus two one week to show Donald Trump beating Joe Biden and then D plus five the following week to show Kamala Harris up.

00:24:18.000 That's scummy, because it doesn't show up in the disclosures.

00:24:21.000 So I don't know, I think there's a lot of negative tricks.

00:24:24.000 And I think ultimately, as we all know, and as we'll tell you, and most other pollsters will not, that election integrity matters more now, especially this year than it ever has before.

00:24:35.000 And all of the numbers about that topic are going in the wrong direction.

00:24:39.000 So I mean, what do you mean by that?

00:24:40.000 What do you mean the wrong direction?

00:24:42.000 What do you mean by that?

00:24:43.000 Well, after the 2020 election, you know, we all heard about the big lie, right?

00:24:47.000 When we went into the field and said to people, how likely is it that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 election?

00:24:54.000 We got a number kind of in the high 40s that people said, well, it was at least somewhat likely.

00:24:58.000 We've asked that question seven, eight, nine times between now and back in the 2020 race.

00:25:04.000 And now we've started asking about the upcoming 2024 election.

00:25:07.000 The number is up to 66%.

00:25:09.000 So now two out of three voters in this country think it's at least somewhat likely that cheating is going to affect the outcome of the election.

00:25:19.000 A majority of Democrats now for the first time, a massive number of Republicans, and the independents tend to agree with Republicans on this topic.

00:25:26.000 Well, we've asked a bunch of different ways, too.

00:25:28.000 And I'll tell you, we have a very strong body of election integrity work.

00:25:32.000 We're really the only ones.

00:25:35.000 Numbers coming out today, how likely is it that non-citizens are legally registered to vote in your state where you live?

00:25:40.000 55% of voters say at least somewhat likely.

00:25:43.000 32% say very likely.

00:25:44.000 69% of Republicans.

00:25:47.000 And we've had a couple other zingers over the last couple months, too.

00:25:51.000 In that same swing state poll that we did in the national portion, which was a 2,500 person poll, we showed that 9%, and again, this is a likely voter poll, 9% of the respondents answered either no or not sure to the question, are you a US citizen?

00:26:09.000 5.3% said no.

00:26:11.000 80, no, 97% of those people in the 2020 who did you vote for question said they voted for one of the candidates.

00:26:18.000 So according to that poll, Non-citizens are voting in the United States.

00:26:24.000 And we also had a great one we did with Heartland.

00:26:26.000 We asked 2020 voters who voted by mail-in ballot.

00:26:29.000 We gave them a list of five potential things that they could have done with mail-in ballots that were fraudulent.

00:26:35.000 Like, hey, did you fill one out for somebody else?

00:26:37.000 Did you, you know, vote in a state that wasn't your own?

00:26:40.000 Blah, blah, blah. 28% Of people who voted in the 2020 election admitted at least one of those forms of fraud in a poll.

00:26:49.000 The average was about like 20% for each one of them.

00:26:53.000 I mean, it goes on and on.

00:26:55.000 In that same swing state poll, we asked people, hey, in the 2020 election, did you receive more than one mail-in ballot or a ballot at your house for somebody that didn't live there?

00:27:05.000 It was 18% nationally, 20% in the swing states.

00:27:08.000 So, elections are an absolute mess in this country.

00:27:11.000 Everybody seems to know it, in my opinion, along with the suppression polls or the, like, whatever the opposite of suppression is.

00:27:20.000 They aren't polling at all.

00:27:21.000 It's crazy.

00:27:22.000 84 days to election, one poll that's not Rasmussen came out since August 4th.

00:27:27.000 They just declared Tim Walz, the Democrat running mate and not a single national corporate media pollster, cares to understand what Americans think about that selection.

00:27:37.000 Because when Kamala Harris got, you know, became the candidate, the switcheroo, Reuters Ipsos was tripping over themselves to put a poll out within 36 hours.

00:27:46.000 Where are all the rush polls to put, you know, polls out showing how great a pick Tim Waltz was?

00:27:52.000 Well, there aren't any because I'm pretty sure they're going to show that Kamala Harris is losing to Donald Trump nationally right now.

00:27:58.000 Let's play Cut 15, please.

00:28:01.000 Donald Trump and J.D.

00:28:02.000 Vance here.

00:28:03.000 We know, you know, I've been talking about J.D.

00:28:05.000 Vance's net negative favorability rating, that is, more people view him unfavorably than favorably.

00:28:10.000 Donald Trump has the same thing.

00:28:11.000 I will point out this is among the higher numbers for Trump, but still, he's underwater here at minus 7 points.

00:28:16.000 Jump over to the Democratic side with me if you will.

00:28:19.000 Kamala Harris is actually better liked by more voters than she is disliked at a plus 2 net favorable rating, and then Tim Walz here at a plus 11 rating.

00:28:19.000 Take a look here.

00:28:29.000 It's as simple as this.

00:28:30.000 Politics is about being liked, and the Democratic ticket is better liked than the Republican ticket.

00:28:36.000 Respond to that, Mark Mitchell.

00:28:38.000 I mean, listen, every human has biases.

00:28:41.000 Every poll has biases in it.

00:28:42.000 I'm trying to get them out of my polling because we cease to exist.

00:28:46.000 There's a great chart I'd love for you guys to put up, or if you could go look at it on our Rasmussen Twitter feed that shows all of our polling in 2016-2020.

00:28:55.000 Everybody calls us a right-wing pollster.

00:28:56.000 We were actually 1.5, 2 points left in 2020, and we were incredibly accurate.

00:29:02.000 So at the end of the day, it comes down to track record.

00:29:04.000 Right now, my numbers show Trump's up about 3 to 5 points right now.

00:29:08.000 Nationally, is that right?

00:29:09.000 Yeah.

00:29:10.000 Okay.

00:29:11.000 Very good.

00:29:11.000 Which means, by extension, he's doing great in most of the swing states, in my opinion.

00:29:16.000 Oh yeah, I mean, he wins the popular vote by 3 points.

00:29:18.000 There's no world where he doesn't become president.

00:29:21.000 Mark Mitchell, Rasmussen Reports, thank you so much.

00:29:23.000 My pleasure.

00:29:27.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:30:30.000 There's some new voter registration numbers out, which are promising.

00:30:34.000 Voter registration is an indicator of enthusiasm and grassroots muscle.

00:30:37.000 And I gotta give Turning Point Action a lot of credit.

00:30:39.000 We are in the grassroots.

00:30:40.000 So we're told that Kamala Harris is surging.

00:30:44.000 Now, in the summer of 2020, when I started to get worried, was when I realized, when Joe Biden was quote-unquote surging, or the opposition of Trump was building, is when we started to get slaughtered in voter registration numbers.

00:30:58.000 That's when I started to get a little bit concerned.

00:31:01.000 In June and July of last year, when all of a sudden we were losing significant net ground in Arizona.

00:31:08.000 Losing significant net ground in Pennsylvania.

00:31:10.000 Losing significant net ground in Georgia.

00:31:13.000 This is the trench data, if you will.

00:31:15.000 It is highly predictive of enthusiasm and where voters actually are.

00:31:21.000 Polling is very tough.

00:31:22.000 You got Mark Mitchell who does a great job arresting this report.

00:31:25.000 But voter registration number is like a poll.

00:31:29.000 It's like a poll because you're able to say, our side is, you have new people moving to the state.

00:31:36.000 Is it becoming redder?

00:31:36.000 Is it becoming bluer?

00:31:38.000 And if you register Republican, you have a 90 plus percent chance of actually voting Republican.

00:31:44.000 90 plus percent, and Democrats like 95 percent.

00:31:46.000 So if you get them to vote, it's a very, very high correlation of banking those votes.

00:31:50.000 This is not an opinion.

00:31:52.000 You can't skew these using online manipulation.

00:31:55.000 This is hard data.

00:31:57.000 Okay.

00:31:58.000 So since Kamala Anthem began in the battleground states of Arizona, Pennsylvania, North Carolina,

00:32:06.000 in these battleground states, we have gained 252,000 new registered voters and the Democrats

00:32:13.000 lost 19,088. These are polls that you should look at.

00:32:18.000 These are polls that I like.

00:32:20.000 In Arizona, thanks to the hard work of Turning Point Action and all of you that support Turning Point in the grassroots, in Arizona we registered 19,884 new voters in July.

00:32:33.000 The Democrats, they registered 3,491.

00:32:34.000 So we increased our net advantage in the month of July by 16,000 voters.

00:32:38.000 We increased our net advantage in the month of July by 16,000 voters.

00:32:44.000 In 2020, Donald Trump fell 10,000 votes short in Arizona.

00:32:52.000 So just in the month of July, grassroots patriots and Turning Point Action and many other groups

00:32:58.000 that are working hard, we outregistered the deficit in just one month of what we fell

00:33:05.000 short of in 2020.

00:33:07.000 In 2020, in the month of July, we got slaughtered in voter registration.

00:33:12.000 Pennsylvania.

00:33:13.000 In the state of Pennsylvania, in the month of July, we registered 21,325 new voters.

00:33:20.000 Democrats?

00:33:21.000 They registered 5,788 new voters.

00:33:25.000 In Pennsylvania, we outregistered them by 16,000 new voters.

00:33:30.000 Now what's amazing is that Arizona is becoming significantly redder than Pennsylvania.

00:33:36.000 In North Carolina, 6,294 new registered Republicans, Democrats lost 722.

00:33:44.000 Now here's the one that I love out of all of them, which goes to show that there is a right-wing revolution.

00:33:51.000 Get it?

00:33:52.000 That is afoot, and it's happening in the voter registration data.

00:33:55.000 We have to chase, and we have to close hard.

00:33:57.000 We have to disassemble the gaslighting operation, number one.

00:34:00.000 That is mission critical.

00:34:01.000 We have to get this gaslighting operation putting in check.

00:34:04.000 And then we have to chase, and we have to close.

00:34:06.000 We have to chase, we have to close.

00:34:07.000 We have to chase, we have to close.

00:34:08.000 And those are two things.

00:34:10.000 We have to get on message, we have to find a measure that resonates, and we have to close like Mariano Rivera the last 60 days of the election.

00:34:16.000 And then we have to chase ballots like our life depends on it.

00:34:20.000 California.

00:34:22.000 In the month of July in California, California lost 43,733 Democrats and gained 94,667 Republicans.

00:34:32.000 That is a 150,000 net increased swing for Republicans in California.

00:34:41.000 In California!

00:34:43.000 If those numbers can scale over the course of a year, and you can scale them for 2 or 3 years, again that's a lot of ifs, California could become competitive in the next 5 or 10 years.

00:34:53.000 And I know Blake is going to say, no way, run the numbers!

00:34:57.000 You, again, it might have just been a really good month, but you have a 150,000 advantage a month in California as Republicans, and you do that for one year, two year, three year, four year, five year straight?

00:35:11.000 I'm not saying you can win it, but you can get close.

00:35:13.000 You can start to close the gap.

00:35:15.000 But the point is this, is these are real polls, not the nonsense that you see.

00:35:19.000 This helps congressional races in California, but let's talk about the battleground states.

00:35:23.000 Ignore the polls and look at the voter reg data.

00:35:25.000 We are beating them in the trenches.

00:35:28.000 Maybe that's why they're acting with such panic behind a person that we know is a communist, Kamala Harris.

00:35:35.000 Thanks so much for listening everybody.

00:35:36.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:39.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 12, 2024

Tulsi Gabbard, Domestic Terrorist?

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