The Charlie Kirk Show - Tulsi Gabbard vs. The Intelligence Deep State ft. David Sacks

Tulsi Gabbard has been appointed as the new Director of National Intelligence by President Trump. She is a combat veteran who served in the Marine Corps, the Navy SEALs, the Air Force, the Marines, the National Guard, and the Intelligence Agency. She has been a member of the House Armed Services Committee and served as the Vice President's Chief of Staff under President George H.W. Bush. Her name was chosen because of her hawkish hawkish views on Afghanistan and support for the anti-Russia campaign by Hillary Clinton and her husband, former Vice President Joe Biden. Her appointment is a big victory for the MAGA movement and a big win for the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, which is in desperate need of a foil to Kamala Harris, who is running for D.C. in the primary election against Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-D.C.) and is running a campaign to unify the country behind her and defeat her in the Democratic primary. She is the first woman to serve as the nominee for the position, and she is a fierce opponent of warmongering warmongers like Hillary Clinton, who has been running against President Trump and her campaign to take on the Democratic challenger. This is a victory lap for the far-left and a victory by the far right, who are desperate to keep their grip on power and keep the party on the status quo and keep America on the same old ways they have been running since 9/hypotheticals for decades. Learn how you can protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in precious metals and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how to protect your gold and precious metals in the space of precious and hard-backed gold! by becoming a Noble Gold Investor! Learn more about Noble Gold Investing in the future of the future by becoming an Investor in Noble Gold, a precious metals futures and precious metal futures and options, and get access to the best options on the market, like platinum, gold, silver, and other precious metals! at Noble Gold! Subscribe to the Noble Gold is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show! and get 20% off the price of 1 ounce of gold, platinum, nuggets, silver and other hard-coating! in this episode of the show! FREE PRICING! Click here to get 10% off your first month of Gold? Subscribe here and receive a 20% discount when you become a member!

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00:01:26.000 Joining us now is David Sachs from the All In Podcast.

00:01:29.000 David, I enjoyed hanging out with you this last weekend.

00:01:32.000 David and I are trying to fulfill the mandate together.

00:01:35.000 Is that fair to say, David?

00:01:37.000 That was a really fun dinner and we'll just leave it at that.

00:01:41.000 We want to make sure that the warmongers and the neoconservatives Remain where they belong, which is in the losing campaign of Kamala Harris.

00:01:49.000 David, I want to take a victory lap with you first.

00:01:51.000 How big is the Tulsi Gabbard appointment for Director of National Intelligence?

00:01:56.000 I think it's extremely important.

00:01:58.000 It's extremely important for the country and it's extremely important for our movement.

00:02:02.000 If I had to identify one risk to the MAGA movement over the next four years, it would be that somehow the deep state or the swamp or the Washington blob maneuvers President Trump into Another forever war, a war that we don't need.

00:02:17.000 And that war would not only be very damaging to the country, but it would fracture our base and it could destroy the MAGA movement and derail his domestic priorities.

00:02:27.000 So, you know, an unnecessary war is the last thing we need.

00:02:30.000 And recall that it was bad intelligence that got us into the Iraq war in the first place.

00:02:35.000 Remember that it was the CIA director, George Tenet, who told President George W. Bush That it was a slam dunk case that Saddam Hussein had WND programs.

00:02:45.000 And it was on that basis that the United States got into its most pointless and destructive forever war.

00:02:51.000 So it's so important that the intelligence that is given to the president is correct.

00:02:55.000 And I can't think of a better person to be in charge of that than Tulsi, because she has worn the uniform.

00:03:02.000 She's a soldier.

00:03:03.000 She knows what's involved.

00:03:04.000 At the same time, she's had a skepticism towards these unnecessary foreign interventions.

00:03:10.000 And so she has the right balance.

00:03:12.000 I think she can make sure the intel is correct.

00:03:13.000 And hopefully, that will avoid this horrible type of risk that I'm talking about.

00:03:19.000 Without a doubt.

00:03:20.000 And David, they're already smearing Tulsi as being a Russian asset.

00:03:25.000 Where does this come from?

00:03:26.000 I mean, it is a demonstrably false slur.

00:03:29.000 It is the same as calling somebody a racist or a bigot.

00:03:32.000 It's the national security equivalent of calling somebody a racist, is calling somebody a Russian asset. 0.50

00:03:38.000 In politics, they'll say you are a racist.

00:03:41.000 If you try to get into the national security space, you're a Russian asset. 0.94

00:03:46.000 That slur perfectly shows why we need a teardown. 0.86

00:03:50.000 David, even on the most generous reading, where the heck does this come from with Tulsi?

00:03:54.000 Do they call her a Russian asset because she dares to critique the international rules-based neoliberal order that has been a failure the last 30 years?

00:04:03.000 Well, it comes from the exact same source that the exact same smear came from about President Trump.

00:04:08.000 Remember, they said that he was an agent of Vladimir Putin for years.

00:04:12.000 I mean, this was the whole Russiagate hoax.

00:04:13.000 Where did the Russiagate hoax come from?

00:04:15.000 It came from the Hillary Clinton campaign.

00:04:17.000 Who started this smear that Tulsi was a Russian agent?

00:04:20.000 Hillary Clinton.

00:04:21.000 She just asserted it on cable news one day without any evidence.

00:04:25.000 And since then, it's just been repeated, again, without any evidence whatsoever.

00:04:29.000 I think it's even worse than calling somebody racist, as horrible as that is.

00:04:34.000 Because, you know, as bad as it is to engage in racism, that's not actually a crime.

00:04:40.000 Whereas being a traitor to your country is actually a crime.

00:04:43.000 It's a potential death penalty offense.

00:04:45.000 So this is possibly the worst type of smear I think the good news is that the people of the United States have now seen through this type of slander.

00:05:01.000 Obviously, they saw through with respect to President Trump.

00:05:04.000 And I think President Trump's election shows that the mainstream media, or I should say the legacy media, no longer has any credibility when it makes these types of assertions.

00:05:14.000 And in a sense, President Trump has Short-circuited their slander machine.

00:05:21.000 So let's play some of the tape here.

00:05:24.000 This is Tom Nichols, who is obviously on payroll from the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:05:29.000 This is a remarkable lie.

00:05:32.000 Let's play cut 407.

00:05:35.000 You know, every federal employee every year has to sit through insider threat training to recognize people they think might be hazards around classified material.

00:05:46.000 And part of that is people who are deeply critical of the United States and its foreign policy, who seem to have a lot of affinity and meetings with I mean, there's all kinds of alarm bells that go off here.

00:06:02.000 And this nomination sets them all off.

00:06:08.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on.

00:06:10.000 If you're critical of America, red flag, did he say that if you're critical of our foreign policy decisions, David Sachs?

00:06:16.000 Did you hear that?

00:06:17.000 That was a very interesting tell, that if you have a difference of opinion on whether or not we send money to Ukraine and we invade Iraq, you're a national security threat.

00:06:28.000 Did I hear that correctly?

00:06:30.000 Well, this is what they want to redefine treason as, is policy disagreements.

00:06:35.000 If you don't agree with their agenda, somehow that's treason.

00:06:38.000 No, I mean, that's engaging in a reasonable policy debate, which we absolutely need to have, especially with regard to foreign wars.

00:06:46.000 Look, what these people are so upset about, Tulsi does not...

00:06:50.000 Represent a threat to the United States.

00:06:52.000 I think she's a great asset for the United States.

00:06:54.000 What she represents a threat to is the Atlantic Magazine's agenda, which is non-stop wars, endless and forever war.

00:07:01.000 This is what the Atlantic Magazine stands for.

00:07:03.000 And they have made these same types of accusations towards President Trump.

00:07:07.000 Again, they bought into the whole Russiagate hook, hook, line, and sinker.

00:07:11.000 They're the ones who spread it or were some of the people who spread it.

00:07:14.000 In fact, I think the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg was one of the main promoters of the whole Russiagate hoax.

00:07:22.000 They've never come to grips with their complicity in that hoax.

00:07:27.000 They've never acknowledged that they were wrong.

00:07:29.000 They just move on to the next set of accusations.

00:07:31.000 And these are the last people who should be believed about this sort of thing.

00:07:35.000 They have no credibility left.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, it's just not just no credibility.

00:07:39.000 I mean, like, they're the ones that are hostile threat to the country the way they're talking.

00:07:43.000 So now that this administration is sunsetting, you would think that when administration is over, you really know what they prioritize.

00:07:50.000 So with Joe Biden, is he going to really try to run through the tape on infrastructure or, you know, abortion?

00:07:57.000 No, no, no, no.

00:07:58.000 The top priority of this outgoing administration is Ukraine.

00:08:03.000 It's not a joke.

00:08:04.000 This is Tony Blinken.

00:08:06.000 Play cut 400, please.

00:08:08.000 As we're working to make sure that Ukraine has what it needs to effectively defend itself, the United States continues to step up.

00:08:16.000 We've obligated just recently and pushed out the door another $8 billion in security assistance for Ukraine.

00:08:23.000 That was in September.

00:08:25.000 Another almost half a billion dollars just a few weeks ago.

00:08:28.000 And President Biden is committed to making sure that every dollar we have at our disposal will be pushed out the door between now and January 20th.

00:08:37.000 David, this is telling.

00:08:39.000 Please.

00:08:40.000 Well, this administration is ending as it began.

00:08:43.000 Its number one priority has been this Ukraine war.

00:08:46.000 Joe Biden entered office demanding that Ukraine be admitted to NATO on a fast track.

00:08:51.000 That was his...

00:08:52.000 That was his number one priority, and this goes back a decade to when he was Obama's vice president, and he was running Ukraine policy as part of his portfolio, and he greenlit the Maidan coup in 2014, for which he was rewarded when Hunter Biden was put on the board of Burisma.

00:09:09.000 In any event, they fast-tracked This idea of NATO expansion to Ukraine in his first year in office, 2021, even though the Russians said that was an absolute red line.

00:09:18.000 That then blew up in their face when Russia invaded Ukraine, and since then they've made funding this Ukraine project their number one priority.

00:09:28.000 Again, they're going to shovel every dollar out the door they can before they leave office.

00:09:32.000 That is what they care about.

00:09:34.000 They could have tackled so many other issues.

00:09:37.000 They could have tackled the border.

00:09:38.000 They could have tackled inflation.

00:09:39.000 They could have tackled so many issues that were relevant to ordinary Americans.

00:09:43.000 But you can see that this expansion, this sort of empire building, is their number one priority.

00:09:48.000 It's what they care about.

00:09:51.000 And just, why?

00:09:53.000 I know that I ask you this question a lot, David, and we were hanging out.

00:09:56.000 My operating thesis is that the war machine is the culmination of statism.

00:10:01.000 There is no greater expression of the worship of the state than war. 0.66

00:10:06.000 It is ultimate authority to take life, give life, destroy things, dominate, monopolize countries, reorganize them as you see fit.

00:10:14.000 It is the closest thing to be playing God on the planet.

00:10:18.000 What is it about That this particular topic that has wide bipartisan agreement, that if you're critical, we're going to throw you into jail and call you a traitor.

00:10:32.000 Why the fixation, do you believe?

00:10:35.000 Well, I think there is something to what you're saying.

00:10:37.000 I mean, there is immense power for them in being able to control the fate of millions of people, to control the destiny of all those lives, to be able to snuff them out, potentially.

00:10:48.000 I think there is a sick, twisted power in that.

00:10:52.000 But look, I think there's also an ideology and a policy objective.

00:10:58.000 The bottom line is these people, I guess you can call them globalists, they see no national border to be defended.

00:11:05.000 They see only an imperial border to be expanded.

00:11:08.000 And Ukraine has been the tip of the spear. 0.62

00:11:11.000 It is the place they wanted to expand NATO to.

00:11:14.000 NATO is the It's basically the central organization that expands the, you could say, the American empire, American influence.

00:11:22.000 And so they've been finetically obsessed with that project.

00:11:25.000 Now look, I'm not against NATO per se, but in this particular case, the Russians made it abundantly clear that that was a red line for their security interests, and they would go to war to prevent it, and indeed they have.

00:11:37.000 And so, you know, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed as a result of that reckless decision.

00:11:43.000 And I think that the biggest blunder that the Biden administration made in this regard is that there was a peace deal on the table.

00:11:51.000 It was called the Istanbul deal.

00:11:53.000 In the first few weeks of the war, it would have ended the war.

00:11:56.000 Ukraine would have kept all of its territory, would not have lost all of its territory.

00:12:00.000 Hundreds of thousands of lives would have been saved.

00:12:02.000 The country would not have been destroyed.

00:12:05.000 But what it would have required is for Ukraine simply to remain neutral.

00:12:10.000 It was not saying that Russia had to dominate Ukraine.

00:12:13.000 What Russia wanted was simply for Ukraine to remain neutral, to not be a member of NATO. That would have ended the war right when it was getting started, would have saved all those lives.

00:12:23.000 Saved all that destruction.

00:12:24.000 And the Biden administration vetoed it.

00:12:27.000 And regardless of what you think of their actions before that, once they rejected the Istanbul deal, they became the co-owner of this war.

00:12:35.000 It wasn't just Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine.

00:12:37.000 It was Joe Biden rejecting the peace deal that was available in March and April of 2022.

00:12:44.000 That was a fateful and critical error.

00:12:48.000 And I think that now all of us who want peace in Ukraine are going to have to work really hard to try and put Humpty Dumpty back together again, so to speak, to try and get back to a peace deal that was so readily available, so on the table just a couple of years ago.

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00:14:09.000 David, explain to our audience the significance of DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency.

00:14:16.000 Two men that you know, Elon and Vivek, are going to be going after waste, fraud, abuse, and try to find efficiency in government.

00:14:24.000 Explain it to our audience.

00:14:25.000 Absolutely.

00:14:26.000 Well, the bottom line is that the United States is on a path towards bankruptcy.

00:14:30.000 We have a $2 trillion deficit every year.

00:14:34.000 We are already, our debt is so large now that our interest payments are over a trillion dollars a year.

00:14:40.000 It's getting to be the single largest item in the budget.

00:14:42.000 It's bigger than what we spend on defense spending on the Pentagon.

00:14:46.000 It's something like 20 to 25% now of federal revenue is going to interest payments on the debt.

00:14:52.000 And this is a very unsustainable path, and the debt is continues to grow.

00:14:56.000 So unless we somehow reform government spending, this country is going to go broke.

00:15:01.000 Moreover, what is that spending getting us?

00:15:04.000 We have something like 450 federal agencies now, issuing regulations.

00:15:09.000 It's creating a morass.

00:15:10.000 It's very hard to operate a business without...

00:15:14.000 Violating one of these regulations.

00:15:16.000 It's, you know, increases the cost of compliance.

00:15:18.000 You have to hire a lot of lawyers and accountants to do anything.

00:15:21.000 And so, you know, a lot of the spending isn't really helping.

00:15:25.000 It's hurting.

00:15:25.000 It's acting as a brake pedal on the economy.

00:15:27.000 So I think the point of Doge is let's get the federal budget on a more sustainable trajectory and at the same time make America more competitive and increase economic growth.

00:15:40.000 And by the way, we're very lucky to have two really business geniuses, Elon and Vivek, contributing their time to do this.

00:15:49.000 They're doing this for free because they love the country.

00:15:51.000 They've both been extremely successful in business.

00:15:54.000 Elon, obviously, is the most successful entrepreneur maybe of all time, but certainly of our generation.

00:16:02.000 And Vivek was also very successful in business before getting into politics.

00:16:07.000 I think for these two real heavyweights, I mean, intellectual giants to devote their time to doing this, and they are very serious about it, it's really a wonderful thing for the country.

00:16:18.000 So, David, let's summarize all this.

00:16:21.000 You and I have not had an opportunity to celebrate on air since we won.

00:16:24.000 You went out on a limb and believed in Donald Trump, and you believed that he was going to bring a vision of change to the country.

00:16:31.000 You spent some time in Mar-a-Lago this last weekend.

00:16:33.000 You were around the transition discussions.

00:16:35.000 Can you please just judge, compare why you got into it, what you thought would happen, and what you saw firsthand at Mar-a-Lago?

00:16:46.000 Yeah, the thing I saw that was really amazing was just to see President Trump go into boss mode right away.

00:16:51.000 You know, I had the chance to meet him several times as a candidate, as I'm sure you did, Charlie.

00:16:57.000 And, you know, he was campaigning.

00:16:59.000 Obviously, he'd already been the president, and so he was always very presidential.

00:17:04.000 When I was at Mar-a-Lago, I saw he was already acting as the president.

00:17:09.000 He was receiving calls from foreign leaders.

00:17:12.000 People were lining up out the door looking for jobs, and he was interviewing people.

00:17:18.000 I mean, he had immediately gone into, I guess, boss mode, so to speak.

00:17:23.000 And just frankly, it was a whole different aura than I'd seen before.

00:17:29.000 It really, I mean, to be quite frank, it felt like the power was just like crackling off him at that point.

00:17:35.000 I mean, he is just marching forward with his agenda.

00:17:38.000 I mean, he flew into D.C. just the other day like a conquering hero.

00:17:43.000 It was quite curious to see the Bidens.

00:17:46.000 They're all smiles there.

00:17:47.000 I mean, it was like a dog that had rolling over on its belly waiting to be...

00:17:53.000 You know, petted or something.

00:17:55.000 I mean, after Biden was the one who tried to put Trump in jail for years.

00:17:59.000 I mean, it was really quite amazing.

00:18:01.000 I mean, he really is.

00:18:02.000 It was like Caesar entering Rome or something.

00:18:06.000 But look, I think that he is pursuing his agenda for the American people very strongly.

00:18:11.000 He has a clear mandate.

00:18:12.000 He won the House, the Senate, the presidency, more governors, mansions.

00:18:17.000 And he is now pursuing that agenda.

00:18:19.000 It's really quite incredible to see.

00:18:21.000 David, thank you so much.

00:18:22.000 I want you to check out the All In podcast.

00:18:24.000 David, I really appreciate your leadership and friendship.

00:18:26.000 Thank you.

00:18:27.000 Absolutely.

00:18:28.000 You too, Charlie.

00:18:29.000 Thank you.

00:18:30.000 And lots of emails and feedback.

00:18:31.000 So let me repeat what I said the first hour.

00:18:33.000 It is inexplicable if you vote against Matt Gaetz and you voted for Merrick Garland.

00:18:40.000 If you voted against both of them, then you're going to have to explain that.

00:18:44.000 However, it's interesting.

00:18:46.000 The people who voted for Merrick Garland are the ones that are currently saying they won't vote for Matt Gaetz.

00:18:53.000 Isn't that interesting?

00:18:55.000 The people who voted against Merrick Garland are the ones that are saying they will vote for Matt Gaetz.

00:19:00.000 So it's kind of this overlaying thing.

00:19:03.000 The correlation is there's a direct correlation between people who supported Merrick Garland that are Senate Republicans that are against Matt Gaetz and people that didn't support Merrick Garland and that are in favor of Matt Gaetz.

00:19:14.000 It's quite interesting.

00:19:16.000 I actually got a text from a major donor right here.

00:19:18.000 Charlie, where can I send money to primary people that go up against Gates?

00:19:22.000 We have a link for that.

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00:20:27.000 All right, welcome back everybody to The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:20:30.000 My name's Andrew Colvett.

00:20:32.000 Momentarily, temporarily filling in for the one and only Charlie Kirk.

00:20:35.000 I'm the executive producer of this fine show.

00:20:37.000 Honored to be with you all from sea to shining sea.

00:20:40.000 And I am excited about our next guest, Sean Davis, co-founder and CEO of The Federalist.

00:20:46.000 If you guys are not checking out The Federalist on a daily basis, you are missing out and you need to do that now.

00:20:51.000 Sean Davis, welcome to the show, my friend.

00:20:55.000 We haven't had you.

00:20:56.000 Yeah, we haven't had you since last Tuesday.

00:21:01.000 So...

00:21:02.000 First impressions.

00:21:03.000 How are you feeling?

00:21:04.000 What's the world feel like in the Federalist land?

00:21:08.000 It's great.

00:21:09.000 And it's interesting.

00:21:10.000 We were all talking about the election afterwards.

00:21:12.000 And I think most of us were pretty confident that Trump was going to win, that it wasn't going to be very close.

00:21:18.000 But you just never know until it happens.

00:21:20.000 And I personally didn't realize how relieved I would be.

00:21:26.000 Like, I look back to 2016 when Trump crushed Hillary.

00:21:30.000 And that was funny.

00:21:31.000 It was just fun.

00:21:33.000 We all had a good time.

00:21:34.000 This one, it wasn't funny.

00:21:38.000 It felt big and meaningful, like this massive weight had been pulled off the back of the country.

00:21:44.000 So I'm thrilled and I'm very excited, just not for the next four years, but for the next 12.

00:21:51.000 I agree.

00:21:52.000 And I think we're in a really good position.

00:21:55.000 I'm worried about the house.

00:21:57.000 Sean, we're barely keeping a majority in the House despite having a real red wave.

00:22:04.000 So we can talk about that later.

00:22:06.000 Right now, we're in the midst of a Senate confirmation looming battle.

00:22:12.000 The right people seem to be losing their absolute minds over Matt Gaetz, but also Tulsi Gabbard.

00:22:19.000 And I think Pete Hegg said.

00:22:20.000 So these look like they're going to be the three biggest fights we have on our hand.

00:22:24.000 I want to pull up one of your tweets here that has done very, very well.

00:22:30.000 Charlie actually retweeted it.

00:22:32.000 If you can go ahead and bring up Sean's tweet, please.

00:22:35.000 You said, with Gates having resigned his seat in the House, if the Senate tries to reject his AG confirmation, DeSantis can always appoint Gates to fill Rubio's Senate seat.

00:22:48.000 Would be interesting to see senators have to choose between Gates as AG or as their colleague for years to come.

00:22:55.000 I thought this was brilliant.

00:22:57.000 I've had a bunch of people send this to me.

00:22:59.000 There it is, Sean.

00:23:01.000 Now, you know, this is maybe just your wild speculation, but walk through your thinking here because I think it's brilliant.

00:23:10.000 Well, I wouldn't call it wild speculation.

00:23:12.000 I enjoy playing chess, okay?

00:23:15.000 I have fun doing it.

00:23:16.000 And what you learn in chess is you need to learn to evaluate the board and find the best options for yourself, the best options for your opponent, and then play to the best option of the opponent.

00:23:26.000 And so I look at the board here and I see a lot of options.

00:23:30.000 Obviously, I think the Senate should confirm Gates, notwithstanding all the nonsense they're going to throw at him or the fake FBI attempt to entrap him and extort his family with insane allegations.

00:23:42.000 So I think they should confirm him.

00:23:43.000 If not, if they don't want to do that, I think they should recess appoint him, have both houses go into recess and do appointments that way.

00:23:51.000 And if that doesn't work, I think it would be a great idea to make clear to senators, you're not getting out of this easy.

00:23:57.000 There's going to be consequences.

00:23:59.000 And, you know, who knows if DeSantis will go along with it?

00:24:02.000 I don't know.

00:24:02.000 But I think it's one of those things that in politics, you always need to have something in your back pocket.

00:24:07.000 You always need to have a way to make clear to people that they can do things the easy way and the right way, or they can eventually do what they were supposed to do, and it can be very painful for them.

00:24:20.000 And I think this is a great option to highlight that, hey, you may think you're going to get the last laugh voting against Gates, but if you do that, he might end up as your colleague tormenting you for years to come.

00:24:31.000 I think it's brilliant.

00:24:33.000 And I think here's the other piece of it.

00:24:37.000 These through at a certain order, right?

00:24:39.000 So you hold Rubio back, his confirmation back.

00:24:42.000 You force up to the front of the line, Gates as AG. And then you basically, you dangle the Rubio option as, because Rubio is going to be confirmed.

00:24:54.000 I think nobody's worried about Rubio as Secretary of State.

00:24:57.000 So the question then becomes, would you be able to get DeSantis to play ball with this?

00:25:03.000 And, you know, I think everybody's feeling very positive in Florida.

00:25:07.000 I mean, Trump won the state by 13 points.

00:25:11.000 There's a lot of political firepower out of the state of Florida that we can use.

00:25:15.000 But, you know, in general, Sean, what is your reaction to the reaction, right?

00:25:22.000 You've got everybody losing their minds over Pete Hegseth, which I personally think is a phenomenal choice.

00:25:28.000 I know Pete personally He's an absolute patriot, loves this country.

00:25:34.000 Tulsi is now a foreign agent and she's friendly with Vladimir Putin.

00:25:39.000 What is your reaction to this?

00:25:41.000 John Bolton says between Tulsi and Gates, historically the two worst cabinet selections in American history.

00:25:49.000 What say you? 1.00

00:25:51.000 Yeah, I can't think of a better endorsement than that idiot hating them. 1.00

00:25:54.000 I mean, he's a disaster, ruined everything he touched, and so if he doesn't like people, I think that just tells anyone with a brain they must be great. 1.00

00:26:02.000 And I will say, I find the reactions fascinating and the freakouts fascinating, because if the people having the freakouts, if these idiots had actually done their jobs, if they had actually protected the Constitution that they claim to love so much, none of this would have been necessary. 0.99

00:26:17.000 What they did is they allowed an infection to fester throughout Washington, throughout these agencies, for years, if not decades. 0.98

00:26:24.000 They ignored it.

00:26:25.000 They didn't treat it.

00:26:26.000 We all knew the limb was dying.

00:26:28.000 We could all smell the stank on it.

00:26:30.000 And yet they sat there and they insisted that nothing is wrong.

00:26:33.000 This is totally normal.

00:26:34.000 And I want them all to understand you are the reason this is happening.

00:26:38.000 You, Mr.

00:26:39.000 Legal Eagle, who turned up his nose at us saying, hey, DOJ is using the Constitution as toilet paper and they're going to take down the entire republic if somebody doesn't bring them to heel.

00:26:50.000 They laughed at us and they scoffed at us.

00:26:52.000 And I just want them to understand you're the reason this is happening.

00:26:55.000 As much as it hurts, know to your core that it is your fault that if you had done your job, none of this would have been necessary.

00:27:03.000 I think that's so important, Sean.

00:27:05.000 I mean, we have skyrocketing deficits.

00:27:07.000 We had a whole political movement that tried to remove Donald Trump from ballots because they didn't like him being the candidate.

00:27:15.000 They tried to throw him in prison for 700 years.

00:27:18.000 They prosecuted him across multiple state jurisdictions, New York and Fulton County.

00:27:23.000 They threw grandmas in prison for J6. They surveilled Catholic churches, and they didn't think there was going to be consequences for Steve Bannon.

00:27:37.000 Steve Bannon's now facing another legal challenge in his future.

00:27:43.000 This thing got so out of whack.

00:27:45.000 We can't even build ships in the military anymore.

00:27:49.000 In the Navy, Sean, there is so much rot, corruption, and degradation of the system, of the greatest country in the history of planet Earth.

00:27:58.000 And they didn't think that there was going to be a reckoning.

00:28:01.000 So all of We've always said the grassroots needs a seat at

00:28:31.000 the table.

00:28:32.000 We don't just have one seat at the table.

00:28:34.000 We have dozens of them now.

00:28:36.000 What say you, Sean?

00:28:38.000 Oh, I think it's fantastic.

00:28:39.000 When we started at the Federalist, we started because we are sick and tired of looking at the media landscape and seeing that it seemed to exist to tell the people what power wanted them to hear.

00:28:49.000 And we started because we had the simple idea that it's time for the people in power to hear what the people actually want them to hear.

00:28:57.000 They need to know what the country wants.

00:28:59.000 We're tired of having their agenda shoved down our throats.

00:29:02.000 And, man, you want to talk about someone who has done a Herculean effort We're good to go.

00:29:28.000 It's truly amazing.

00:29:30.000 And I think that's what frightens so many people in Washington now.

00:29:33.000 There's been a model that they've operated under for years where they get to do what they want and then they just shove it down our throats.

00:29:39.000 And those days are over.

00:29:41.000 And I think they're terrified realizing that their gravy train is out of gas and that a whole new cadre of people is in charge. 1.00

00:29:49.000 And it's not them and all their fancy little friends with their stupid little credentials. 1.00

00:29:53.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:29:54.000 It's like if the elites with their credentials, and by the way, where they get these credentials are all rotten to the core now.

00:29:59.000 So let's start there.

00:30:01.000 So if credentials is what you want, you're getting credentials from a corrupt establishment that has lost its way decades ago, first of all.

00:30:10.000 But second of all, look at the fruit of your credentialed elite.

00:30:14.000 You have run this country into the ground, and the American people, the grassroots is where the honor is.

00:30:24.000 It's where the virtue still is.

00:30:25.000 It's where the core and the heart and soul of this country is alive and well.

00:30:29.000 It wasn't so well, but now we're pretty well.

00:30:31.000 We've got a nice shot in the arm and we want our country back.

00:30:34.000 And it's funny, one of our producers in the chat said, we don't just have dozens of seats at the table, Sean.

00:30:39.000 We own the table.

00:30:40.000 It's ours now.

00:30:41.000 It was always ours and they tried to make us believe that it wasn't.

00:30:45.000 It's ours.

00:30:46.000 We own it.

00:30:47.000 Hey, everybody.

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00:31:57.000 Sean Davis from The Federalist, I want to play for you a couple clips here that expose, I think, in even more extravagant ways than we've already seen, just how insane the left has become and how Donald Trump has broke all of their brains.

00:32:13.000 They're now trying to put a wedge between family members if that family member voted for Donald Trump.

00:32:19.000 No more holidays, no more Thanksgiving turkey together where we put things aside and we love one another.

00:32:24.000 We thank God for our blessings.

00:32:26.000 No?

00:32:26.000 It's all vindictive.

00:32:28.000 It's all vendetta.

00:32:29.000 It's all hurt feelings.

00:32:31.000 Play Cup 410.

00:32:32.000 There is a push, I think just a societal norm, that if somebody is your family, that they are entitled to your time.

00:32:40.000 And I think the answer is absolutely not.

00:32:43.000 So if you are going into a situation where you have family members, where you have close friends who you know have voted in ways that are against you, like what you said, against your livelihood, And it's completely fine to not be around those people and to tell them why.

00:33:01.000 You know, to say, I have a problem with the way that you voted because it went against my very livelihood and I'm not going to be around you this holiday.

00:33:09.000 I need to take some space for me.

00:33:11.000 Oh, but there's more, Sean.

00:33:13.000 And then I'm going to get your reaction, I promise.

00:33:16.000 4-11.

00:33:17.000 I completely understand her point because I really do feel that this candidate, you know, President-elect Trump, is just a different type of candidate.

00:33:28.000 From the things he said and the things he's done and the things he will do, it's more of a moral issue for me.

00:33:35.000 And I think it's more of a moral issue for other people.

00:33:37.000 We're just, you know...

00:33:39.000 I would say it was different when, let's say, Bush got elected.

00:33:43.000 You know, you may not have agreed with his policies, but you didn't feel like he was a deeply flawed person, deeply flawed by character, deeply flawed in morality.

00:33:53.000 I think a lot of devs called him deeply flawed and humanized him.

00:33:55.000 But you've got to admit, they're very different figures.

00:34:00.000 Sean Davis, what do you make of that?

00:34:02.000 By the way, Whoopi Goldberg just said she's, you know, threatening a sex strike. 0.76

00:34:07.000 Which I'm sure America is just very upset about right now. 0.72

00:34:11.000 So we got lots to react to, Sean.

00:34:14.000 What's your take of this?

00:34:16.000 Well, I guess this would be a good time for me to announce that I'm going to go on strike from playing professional football and just announce I'm not going out for the draft next year.

00:34:25.000 I feel like that's a little more credible than what she's doing. 0.98

00:34:27.000 These people are nuts. 0.96

00:34:28.000 Like, I was alive during George W. Bush's presidency and was conscious at the time. 0.99

00:34:34.000 They called him Hitler.

00:34:35.000 They called him the chimposter president.

00:34:38.000 They had marches and protests where they had him in the likeness of Hitler with the Hitler mustache.

00:34:44.000 So I love how the left always does this, that whoever is currently in power who's a Republican is Hitler, and they always compare him to the last guy who they previously called Hitler but wanted to forget.

00:34:55.000 And so then they ask, oh, well, why can't he be decent like that last guy?

00:34:58.000 They're going to do it to Trump, by the way.

00:35:00.000 So when J.D. Vance runs again, they're going to say, you know what, we called Trump Hitler, but he was actually better than this J.D. Vance fellow.

00:35:07.000 fellow.

00:35:07.000 I'm very concerned.

00:35:08.000 It's all nonsense.

00:35:10.000 And as far as like shunning your family goes, you can go online and you can look up signs from people who study this on whether you're in a cult and they look at things that cults demand of their followers.

00:35:23.000 And they demand that you renounce your former beliefs, that you cut off contact with your friends and family, that you renounce your family and that you pledge your devotion to the new cult.

00:35:33.000 They want to own you.

00:35:34.000 So what the left is, is a religious cult.

00:35:37.000 They have their own dogma.

00:35:38.000 They have their own liturgies.

00:35:40.000 They have their own means of sanctification, justification.

00:35:42.000 These people are in a cult.

00:35:44.000 And for their own good, I hope they snap out of it because it's actually really, really sad and destructive to see them do this to themselves and their own families.

00:35:53.000 That's so smart, Sean Davis.

00:35:55.000 It's just further evidence.

00:35:57.000 That they are in a cult, that this is their religion, their secular cult religion. 0.60

00:36:03.000 And, you know, the 4B movement, all these women threatening, you know, to not have sex and not have children. 1.00

00:36:09.000 It's like, we just keep winning.

00:36:12.000 I'm not tired of winning yet.

00:36:13.000 We're just going to outbreed these people.

00:36:15.000 And in 20 years, find out just how right-wing the country can really get.

00:36:20.000 Sean Davis, tell us where people can find you, how to support The Federalist, 30 Seconds.

00:36:26.000 Well, they can come to thefederalist.com.

00:36:29.000 They can sign up as subscribers.

00:36:30.000 They can make donations to our tax-exempt foundation.

00:36:33.000 You can also find me on X. It's Sean, S-E-A-N-M-D-A-V, Sean MDAV, where I troll and terrify and terrorize the liberals every day.

00:36:45.000 Yeah, you do a phenomenal job.

00:36:47.000 I hope somebody is back-channeling right now with Governor DeSantis to get this Rubio idea, the leverage play with Gates.

00:36:57.000 I think that's critically important.

00:36:59.000 Sean Davis, excellent work as always.

00:37:00.000 We'll see you again, my friend.

00:37:02.000 Thank you, sir.

00:37:02.000 Take care.

00:37:03.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:05.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:07.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 15, 2024

Tulsi Gabbard vs. The Intelligence Deep State ft. David Sacks

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