The Charlie Kirk Show - Turning Point Action Pledges $5 Million to Ballot Chase in Wisconsin with Scott Presler and Tyler Bowyer

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Tenet Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 It's time to win.

00:00:02.000 We are headed for a loss in 2024, and the Republican establishment just seems delighted to continue a pattern of nonsense.

00:00:12.000 Mike Pence is running.

00:00:14.000 Chris Christie is going to run.

00:00:15.000 I mean, give me a break.

00:00:16.000 What are we doing here, guys?

00:00:18.000 We need to invest in the infrastructure to win.

00:00:21.000 tpaction.com.

00:00:23.000 If you are so moved, Scott Pressler and Tyler Boyer joined for the entire episode for a conversation about how we are going to win in 2024.

00:00:33.000 Email me your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com, but more importantly, go to tpaction.com.

00:00:38.000 That is tpaction.com.

00:00:41.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:42.000 Here we go.

00:00:44.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:45.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:47.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:51.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:54.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:55.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:56.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

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00:01:27.000 Okay, everybody, this whole hour will be dedicated to how we win in 2024.

00:01:33.000 You got DeSantis, you got Trump, you got Pence, you got Chris Christie, you got Nikki Haley, you got Vivek, you have Larry Elder.

00:01:42.000 You got Doug Bergham running for president soon.

00:01:44.000 It's all a distraction and noise.

00:01:46.000 Look, Trump's going to be the nominee.

00:01:47.000 Yeah, they're going to try to indict him and all this.

00:01:49.000 But even if you don't like Trump, I'm going to get you to agree with this.

00:01:51.000 Who's building the infrastructure?

00:01:53.000 Who's building the machine?

00:01:55.000 Who's actually investing in the grassroots ballot chasing, voter registration?

00:01:59.000 Doing the work that Scott Pressler has been doing.

00:02:01.000 And in just a second, we're going to have him on the program for a big announcement.

00:02:04.000 But let me do a little bit of a lead up.

00:02:06.000 We have been on this message since the RNC race with Ronna Romney and Harmeet Dillon.

00:02:14.000 We were trying to get Ronna Romney to step aside. 0.73

00:02:17.000 Very sweet woman, not up to the task.

00:02:19.000 We were unsuccessful in that, but I was there on behalf of you, the grassroots, shaking hands, doing our best, and we fell short, but we gave it our best effort.

00:02:28.000 We've been saying for quite some time that institutional Republican groups, the way they've been doing elections, is not in harmony with the grassroots.

00:02:34.000 It's not accountable.

00:02:36.000 In fact, sometimes they're lying to donors, and sometimes they are saying they're knocking on doors when they are not.

00:02:43.000 And when I say that, you know, people would say, oh, you know, Charlie, you're just complaining.

00:02:47.000 You're a complainer.

00:02:49.000 And say, look, we're in the grassroots.

00:02:51.000 We're talking to folks.

00:02:53.000 You know, we have a beautiful audience and really thankful for it.

00:02:57.000 We kind of know if the work is actually getting done.

00:03:01.000 And I can tell you, Scott Pressler's work was getting done.

00:03:03.000 I know that.

00:03:04.000 100%.

00:03:05.000 Well, now a new bombshell piece from NBC News.

00:03:08.000 And you got to take it with a pound of salt because it's NBC News, but there is a lot of irrefutable data in here that is outside of the bias and the trappings by Alan Smith, NBC News.

00:03:19.000 Republicans are spending millions of dollars on turnout operations that are deeply flawed, insiders say.

00:03:30.000 Now, part of the article talks about how the Republican apparatus, not just the RNC, to be fair, not just the RNC, but Republican outside groups, they hire a bunch of paid door knockers and paid organizers, and they're fleecing donors.

00:03:46.000 Now, look, running groups are hard.

00:03:49.000 You know, we're about to have Tyler on the show.

00:03:50.000 Building something is hard.

00:03:52.000 Hiring people, onboarding them, making sure they stay on message, holding them accountable.

00:03:57.000 We now have over 300 employees in the turning point ecosystem.

00:04:01.000 Yeah, that's a couple full-time jobs, and that will take decades off your life.

00:04:05.000 You see, but when you're headquartered in Washington, D.C., as all these groups are, and they think they can just parachute in and outsource and hire a couple people here, and they're not actually in the trenches in the grassroots, especially if they didn't get a start being a grassroots activist like I did, like Scott Presley did, like Tyler Boyer did.

00:04:22.000 It is kind of this, it is this mode of operation and behavior that is so foreign and distant to them.

00:04:28.000 I got my start knocking on doors for Mark Kirk, who ended up being a rhino, but still, no relation in the suburbs of Chicago, Illinois' 10th congressional district.

00:04:36.000 I wouldn't trade that experience for the world.

00:04:37.000 Knocking on a thousand doors in suburban Chicago and Cook County, trying to argue for them to vote for a Republican during the Obama era, you learn a lot about grassroots conversations, grassroots humility, talking to people, trying to convince them and persuade them.

00:04:52.000 Okay, so this article in NBC News is really something.

00:04:57.000 And I want to be very fair.

00:04:59.000 It's hard to hire people.

00:05:00.000 It's hard to do this.

00:05:02.000 But part of the article talks about how some of the people that were hired to go knock on doors that you probably donated money to.

00:05:10.000 You probably got a triple match, donate, text in to give some money.

00:05:15.000 Well, it turns out that one example they have here is one of the people that were paying said that they were knocking on these doors on the application, but in reality, that person was at Caesars Palace in Vegas.

00:05:29.000 That this person was supposed to be knocking on doors, talking to voters, but they were really at a marijuana bar.

00:05:38.000 Now, this is more than just an anecdote.

00:05:39.000 This comes through a massive series of whistleblowers that are saying that the Republican groups that are allegedly in the grassroots are not.

00:05:47.000 It's a synthetic veneer that is raising millions of dollars from you, the grassroots, and is not actually doing the difficult work that is necessary.

00:05:58.000 Not actually doing clipboard and tennis shoes, not getting sweaty, not doing the stuff that is necessary to move the dial.

00:06:04.000 And look, it's tough.

00:06:07.000 It's easy to run TV ads.

00:06:09.000 You know what's tough?

00:06:10.000 It's tough in September when it's 106 degrees in Maricopa County to go knock on 100 doors in Glendale and surprise in Scottsdale.

00:06:20.000 I fully acknowledge that is hard.

00:06:23.000 But boy, we are not going to win without a transparent and honest operation.

00:06:30.000 And so this article right here, NBC News, basically says that the money the Republicans have been spending broadly, not just the RC, has been very flawed and largely wasteful.

00:06:43.000 And that's why we're thrilled to announce today, we want to do our part at Turning Point Action, that we're going to get into the arena.

00:06:50.000 We're going to do our best to fix this.

00:06:52.000 We're announcing today, it's now live on postmillennial.com, Turning Point Action.

00:06:56.000 We are pledging $5 million to just Wisconsin ballot chasing efforts in collaboration with Scott Pressler.

00:07:01.000 We're going to do our part.

00:07:03.000 Look, we're going to go raise the money.

00:07:04.000 We're going to figure it out.

00:07:05.000 I don't know how we're going to raise it.

00:07:06.000 We'll figure it out.

00:07:06.000 We're going to have to add that to the list of stuff we have to do.

00:07:09.000 In addition, I'll take USA Faith, Pastor Summit, the media stuff, high school, college, ACTCON, just add it to the list.

00:07:15.000 Guess what?

00:07:16.000 I want to win.

00:07:16.000 I'm sick of losing the Republic.

00:07:18.000 I have zero faith in the Republican Unit Party in Washington, D.C. to knock on doors.

00:07:24.000 And this NBC article, if you are a donor, you need to read this.

00:07:28.000 Okay, joining us now is Tyler Boyer and Scott Pressler to talk about this and to dive into the details here.

00:07:35.000 And so, Scott, I'll start with you.

00:07:37.000 Honored to be partnering with you.

00:07:39.000 You are doing the real work here.

00:07:41.000 Scott, can you comment on this article of NBC News?

00:07:44.000 This shouldn't come as a huge surprise to you, though, right, Scott?

00:07:46.000 Because you're out there, you're actually doing the difficult work, and you're probably like, wait a second, why are all these other groups claiming they're doing the door knocking when it's really not getting done?

00:07:55.000 Scott Pressler, your thoughts.

00:07:58.000 Yeah, thank you so much for the opportunity, Charlie and Tyler, to be here.

00:08:02.000 This article that came out today isn't a shocker.

00:08:06.000 You know, I went down after the 2020 election for the runoff in the Georgia Senate race, and I saw this firsthand that we had countless conservative organizations knocking on doors in the area.

00:08:20.000 But what I found is they were all using different applications and they were knocking on the same door over and over.

00:08:27.000 And there was no collaboration, no teamwork, no communication.

00:08:32.000 And yes, there was some fraudulent activity being done.

00:08:35.000 And so I think that's why this is so important, the opportunity for me to partner with Turning Point Action and get as many conservative organizations working together, having that seamless communication and build that infrastructure for 2024.

00:08:53.000 Yeah, and Scott, you're the one, you're doing the difficult work.

00:08:56.000 Tyler, really quick, we're up against a break here.

00:08:58.000 Tyler, can you just mention how special Scott is?

00:09:00.000 I said yesterday, I don't care about this DeSantis Trump Iowa spending spree.

00:09:06.000 Doug Bergham's going to come with 50 million, Tim Scott, 60 million.

00:09:08.000 What a joke.

00:09:10.000 Tyler, who's building the machine?

00:09:11.000 We need a thousand Scott Presslers. 0.83

00:09:13.000 We're going to do our part at Turning Point Action.

00:09:14.000 We're small, by the way.

00:09:15.000 At Turning Point Action, we're small.

00:09:17.000 We've been very blessed in the Turning Point ecosystem to raise a lot of money.

00:09:20.000 RNC raises $480 million, right?

00:09:22.000 Institutional Republican groups raise $800 million to a billion, right?

00:09:25.000 We're like $5 to $10 million, small by comparison.

00:09:28.000 We're doing what we can.

00:09:28.000 We're trying to scale that.

00:09:30.000 We're trying to get up to $100 million as if we don't need more stuff to do.

00:09:32.000 Tyler, one minute remaining.

00:09:34.000 Talk about how special Scott Pressler is and how we need the energy of grassroots activity.

00:09:38.000 Tyler.

00:09:39.000 Well, Scott's been working with us for a long time in the background, talking about and assessing these issues that have been going on.

00:09:45.000 So these are not, like as he said, not surprises, unfortunately, for most of us.

00:09:51.000 But what we are doing is figuring out the solutions every day because we have to have people out on the grassroots that were figuring out how to build the army.

00:09:59.000 And this is really simple.

00:10:00.000 This is getting paper ballots in a box.

00:10:04.000 This is the end of the day.

00:10:05.000 This is what the left identified during the Colorado miracle is that you get more paper in the box, you win.

00:10:12.000 That's right.

00:10:14.000 And that's what we're focused on doing together.

00:10:16.000 Whoever gets the most pieces of paper in the box is the winner.

00:10:21.000 Scott, I'm going to ask you this about after the break.

00:10:23.000 You have this tweet thread going where you say today is day number 44, 47, 48, asking Ronna Romney for a response.

00:10:31.000 It's really strange why the head of the RNC doesn't call you back.

00:10:36.000 I'm confused, actually.

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00:11:33.000 Nevada, the Senate race, we fell short.

00:11:36.000 We fell short.

00:11:38.000 Hey, Tyler, just curious, how many RNC staffers did they have in Nevada or Arizona?

00:11:46.000 Approximation, Tyler Boyer.

00:11:48.000 I'm just curious.

00:11:50.000 So one of the most concerning things right now that, and again, we're not trying to just like turn the total rockets here, especially after that NBC article, but right now we don't have anyone in Arizona that's built out on the RNC side.

00:12:07.000 So it's a little bit concerning after coming out of 2022 to be in this position where it's like Arizona is a key target state.

00:12:17.000 It's imperative to win the presidency.

00:12:19.000 The RNC's job is to nominate and win the presidency.

00:12:24.000 And right now we don't have teams built out here in Arizona. 0.90

00:12:28.000 The Republican Party doesn't have it.

00:12:30.000 And it's not just the Republican Party, but the top campaigns for president don't have it.

00:12:36.000 So you're looking at this and you're going, well, how are we so far behind and what is necessary?

00:12:40.000 And this is the reason why we've been saying the permanent infrastructure of the outside groups is so important.

00:12:45.000 That's why the Scott Presslers of the world, our version of the muscle that the left has built over the last 20 years is literally a Scott Pressler.

00:12:57.000 And that's why your tweet yesterday of saying we need a thousand Scott Presslers.

00:13:03.000 That's what we need.

00:13:05.000 And I'm so grateful for Scott because he's willing to mentor and build all the South.

00:13:11.000 And our side has to be really accepting of that, not only accepting, but we need to be focused on building these outside organizations that are going to get the job done, cycle in and cycle out.

00:13:22.000 Because as we see, like we can't go eight months from the last election with basically no infrastructure built out.

00:13:28.000 It's crazy.

00:13:30.000 Scott, this is thankless work.

00:13:32.000 Talk about your pattern of work.

00:13:34.000 You're up early.

00:13:35.000 You're working late, sweaty days, not spending time in Caesars Palace.

00:13:40.000 Let me read this right here from the NBC article.

00:13:44.000 A few weeks before last fall's midterm election, a paid canvasser, so something that donors donated to, in Nevada, did what thousands of door knockers across the country were doing.

00:13:54.000 They went on an app and marked off the homes that they had visited that day.

00:13:57.000 There was just one problem.

00:13:58.000 This canvasser never went anywhere near those homes in a neighborhood in South Las Vegas.

00:14:03.000 They were eight miles away sitting inside Caesars Palace casino, according to geotracking data obtained by NBC News.

00:14:10.000 Now, we want to be fair.

00:14:12.000 When you hire a bunch of people, you're going to have some hooligans.

00:14:14.000 We've dealt with that, Tyler, right?

00:14:15.000 So they say they fired him, but it goes, and they did the right thing.

00:14:19.000 But it goes on to say this is not an isolated incident, that it was a widespread effort to misrepresent data and grassroots activity to try to get donors there. 0.92

00:14:30.000 So I'm not, it's totally understandable that you have some lunatic and some lazy person.

00:14:34.000 Lord knows we've dealt with that, Tyler, throughout a decade of doing this.

00:14:37.000 What's not acceptable, though, is a pattern and a cover-up and a misrepresentation of it.

00:14:41.000 Scott Pressler, what does a day in a grassroots warrior look like?

00:14:45.000 And why does the Republican establishment not understand it?

00:14:49.000 Well, for example, today we got data for voter registration for states across the country.

00:14:55.000 For example, Louisiana.

00:14:57.000 I was able to report this morning that in the last 30 days, the Democrats have 2,500 fewer registered Democrats than they had one month ago.

00:15:08.000 And we actually increased our numbers with Republicans by 600 in the last month in Louisiana.

00:15:15.000 And this is important because this October, we have the opportunity to flip the governorship from blue to red.

00:15:22.000 So I was already on the phone this morning with the grassroots activists talking about how our operation and voter registration is working, is producing results.

00:15:32.000 I'm now here with y'all, of course.

00:15:35.000 And this evening, I'll be talking with grassroots activists across the country in Kentucky and Utah and Pennsylvania.

00:15:42.000 You see, what people need to understand is I love that people want election integrity and they want to become election day workers and they want to do ballot harvesting legally, of course.

00:15:51.000 Yes, yes.

00:15:52.000 But what people need to understand is the infrastructure has to be built now in preparation for next year.

00:15:59.000 And that's what we're working on.

00:16:00.000 Yeah, so we're going to talk about that again.

00:16:02.000 Attorney Point Action, we're grown.

00:16:03.000 We do not have the 400.

00:16:05.000 How much is it Tyler they raised?

00:16:06.000 RNC, 480 million or something.

00:16:07.000 It's just crazy numbers, right?

00:16:09.000 And we can get the exact, we don't have that.

00:16:11.000 We're going to find it.

00:16:12.000 You know, we've been super blessed in the turning point ecosystem to have a serious amount of donors that have been so generous.

00:16:17.000 We're going to go find them.

00:16:18.000 We're going to have them fund this thing.

00:16:19.000 You know, we announced this.

00:16:20.000 Hey, we're going to spend the $5 million with Scott Pressler in Wisconsin.

00:16:23.000 Now we got to figure out how to raise it.

00:16:24.000 We'll figure it out.

00:16:25.000 And we will.

00:16:26.000 It's a commitment and a promise, Scott, because we got to go in now.

00:16:30.000 That's why we had a conference call with our team yesterday and we're like, hey, are we just going to wait around and happy talk and play?

00:16:36.000 No, the grassroots are angry.

00:16:37.000 They're furious.

00:16:38.000 They feel betrayed.

00:16:39.000 They do not feel as if anyone's fighting for them.

00:16:41.000 Now's the time to invest, especially as the summer circus.

00:16:45.000 I mean, you got Mike Pence and you got, I mean, what is going on here?

00:16:49.000 Answer: Democrats are going to crush us if we do not invest in the early states.

00:16:56.000 All right, Tyler.

00:16:57.000 So let's talk about the model here.

00:16:58.000 What is the RNC and DNC model?

00:17:01.000 And how are we doing the leadership here?

00:17:02.000 And how are we going to model the right way coordinating grassroots groups to bank ballots?

00:17:07.000 Tyler Boyer.

00:17:08.000 Yeah, Charlie.

00:17:09.000 And we've been talking about this quite a bit with donors in particular to just really educate donors because a lot have no idea.

00:17:15.000 They've just been giving for 30, 40 years just to the RNC because they trust the Republican Party and the national ecosystem, the grass, what has basically become an anti-grassroots effort.

00:17:30.000 But what we have been talking about with donors is in the grassroots is you've got to invest into things that are going to last long term.

00:17:39.000 And if you think about it, the RNC, if you understand how the Republican Party works, you elect a state party chair basically every two years.

00:17:46.000 You elect new leadership, and the turnover is really high.

00:17:51.000 And oftentimes, they don't even complete their term.

00:17:54.000 And so you are seeing basically an entire system break down basically once a year.

00:18:00.000 And this is part of the reason why you can't build anything.

00:18:02.000 And the left figured this out about 20 years ago.

00:18:04.000 They said, they started going, this is crazy.

00:18:06.000 We can't build an infrastructure that is data-centric because they had to because of post-Citizens United and dealing with dark money.

00:18:16.000 They had to build it.

00:18:17.000 And so that's basically what got us to where we are today.

00:18:20.000 The left has been out of necessity building this.

00:18:23.000 They've done it effectively.

00:18:25.000 And they've built an entire ecosystem that chases ballots, that gets out the vote outside of the DNC structure.

00:18:34.000 So our mission has to be now is how do we identify our own people?

00:18:38.000 How do we build our own warriors that can last, you know, cycle in and cycle out that can manage these things?

00:18:46.000 And that's where Scott Pressler and the Scott Pressers of the world come in.

00:18:50.000 And we should be jumping for joy when we see a Scott Pressler come into existence.

00:18:55.000 You know, we should be saying, how do we replicate that?

00:18:58.000 And so we're really excited about the investment that we're making and the work that we're doing because now it's about who do we identify that can attract people, attract human beings that can motivate the grassroots to get out and be participatory in these systems.

00:19:14.000 And there's no better example of that than Scott in the world.

00:19:19.000 And then there's a few other organizations like ours and Tea Party Patriots and a few others that can really do it.

00:19:26.000 And so we're all working together and working together.

00:19:29.000 But I wanted to kind of kick over to Scott and just let him kind of talk about, you know, what's the future?

00:19:37.000 What's the path forward now?

00:19:40.000 Scott.

00:19:41.000 Thank you.

00:19:42.000 Well, here's the path forward.

00:19:44.000 If we want to win, we need to use this time now to number one, register new voters.

00:19:50.000 We have to grow the tent, grow the electorate, bring new people into our party.

00:19:55.000 Number two, this is about conversion, converting unaffiliated voters to Republican.

00:20:01.000 Arizona has voter registration by party.

00:20:04.000 Pennsylvania has voter registration by party.

00:20:06.000 Wisconsin does not, but there are 1.2 million unaffiliated voters in Pennsylvania, for example.

00:20:12.000 Convert them to Republicans, get more data.

00:20:15.000 Number three, I know that many of you won't like to hear this, but mail-in voters have an 86% more likely chance of voting, while election day voters have a 53% chance of likely voting.

00:20:28.000 We need to get low-propensity voters, the zero out of fours, the one out of fours, meaning a person voted once out of four years.

00:20:36.000 Get those low-propensity voters on the permanent mail-in voting list so their vote will be mailed to them.

00:20:42.000 And then we knock on their door and ballot chase and make sure that they are locking in their vote.

00:20:47.000 We need to also educate people on the importance of early voting.

00:20:51.000 When I was in Northwest Wisconsin, there was two feet of snow on the ground.

00:20:57.000 We need people to vote early in case of inclement weather, like in Nevada when it's snow on election day.

00:21:03.000 And Elko.

00:21:04.000 And this is one of the most right-wing parts in Nevada.

00:21:06.000 Yeah.

00:21:07.000 And this is the infrastructure we need to build now.

00:21:09.000 Because if we wait to only vote in November of 2024, I think honestly that Joe Biden is going to be cruising to victory.

00:21:17.000 So it's going to be voter registration, early voting, ballot chasing, and building that infrastructure in the key states like Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona.

00:21:27.000 Because, guys, this election is going to be decided by fewer than 50,000 votes: 10,000 in Arizona, 10,000 in Georgia, 15,000 in Wisconsin.

00:21:39.000 That is the presidential election right there.

00:21:43.000 And this is really important, Charlie and Scott, to understand what the left has done.

00:21:48.000 So, and this is part of the conversation.

00:21:51.000 We are all in for a really strong defense and trying to prevent more manipulation from the left in these specific counties that are doing this.

00:22:00.000 But we've seen what they're doing.

00:22:03.000 We know what they're doing.

00:22:04.000 They're trying to place drop boxes to make things more accessible for the left.

00:22:09.000 They are trying to increase the amount of time to vote early.

00:22:14.000 We don't want any of those things.

00:22:15.000 But the reality is: this is if we just sit back and let them do this in blue counties and not do anything on the offense side, we're going to lose.

00:22:24.000 And the best thing that I bring up with people that say, well, you know, it's just, it's, it's a pointless effort.

00:22:30.000 You know, the left has what we haven't even tried to do this, people.

00:22:34.000 Like, we need to be getting out and doing this for the first time ever and in some kind of coordinated way with these organizations all working together in unison.

00:22:43.000 That's what Scott's talking about here.

00:22:46.000 But, you know, you have to understand the left is not spending 50, 60, 70 million dollars in Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia, and, you know, probably spend $150 million in Pennsylvania just for their health.

00:22:58.000 If they didn't have to do any of that work, they wouldn't do it.

00:23:01.000 They wouldn't spend $100 million on that stuff in each of those key target states.

00:23:05.000 And so here's the reality: I don't think we need to match dollar for dollar with the left is doing because I don't think they're as effective as our grassroots.

00:23:12.000 Our grassroots is motivated.

00:23:14.000 They just need the tools in their hands, the data in their hands, the technology in their hands, and they need leadership to say, hey, I need help attracting more volunteers and more full-time people to work on these things.

00:23:27.000 And that's where the Scott Press come in.

00:23:29.000 That's where the Charlie Kirks come in.

00:23:31.000 That's where the Jenny Beth Martins come in. 0.98

00:23:33.000 And that's where we can work together to really win this battle.

00:23:37.000 Anyway, Scott, I don't know what your thoughts are on that.

00:23:41.000 Scott, can you?

00:23:42.000 So thank you.

00:23:42.000 Look, yes.

00:23:44.000 Well, I really wanted to encourage people with some data for a moment because I know there are people that share Tyler's sentiments at home and they're saying, you know, why are we going to do this?

00:23:53.000 The left is so powerful.

00:23:55.000 They're so organized.

00:23:56.000 But guys, I want you to remember that November of 2022 with Adam Laxalt, we only lost by 8,000 votes.

00:24:03.000 But guys, 150,000 Nevada Republicans didn't vote in that election.

00:24:08.000 Imagine if we had that ballot chasing infrastructure or we did legal ballot harvesting in Nevada where it is legal and we did drop boxes at gun shows and churches and other Republican conservative areas.

00:24:20.000 Oh my gosh, Adam Laxalt would be senator right now.

00:24:23.000 And furthermore, look at Oregon.

00:24:25.000 Everybody thinks of Oregon as this deeply blue state.

00:24:28.000 Christine Drayson running for governor lost by 66,000 votes.

00:24:32.000 126,000 Oregonian Republicans didn't vote.

00:24:37.000 So we have the votes.

00:24:39.000 The Democrats are just better about locking in, mobilizing, and galvanizing our people.

00:24:45.000 And that's why this partnership with Turning Point Action coming together with me is so important because we have the grassroots.

00:24:52.000 We have the trust and respect of the people that matter.

00:24:54.000 Yes, we have.

00:24:56.000 And Scott, you're a workhorse.

00:24:58.000 Scott, I'm curious: has the Republican establishment, has Rana reached out to you?

00:25:01.000 I mean, I'll just be blunt.

00:25:03.000 Why do we have to do this?

00:25:04.000 I got enough stuff going on.

00:25:05.000 Why is the Republican establishment not said, Scott, you're a grassroots hero?

00:25:09.000 Here's 20 million bucks.

00:25:10.000 Here's a team.

00:25:11.000 Have they done that?

00:25:14.000 No, sir.

00:25:15.000 No, I've been reaching out very respectfully and politely to Chairwoman McDaniel now for 48 days.

00:25:23.000 And my tweet has been seen over 2 million times via impressions on social media.

00:25:28.000 And I have yet to hear a response from the RNC.

00:25:31.000 Why do you think that is?

00:25:34.000 I'm not sure.

00:25:36.000 I don't know because I represent 1.3 million people.

00:25:41.000 This isn't a Scott Pressler show.

00:25:42.000 This isn't about me.

00:25:44.000 I represent people that trust me.

00:25:47.000 And I think that this is a slap in the face to the grassroots.

00:25:50.000 It's a slap in the face to every person that in 100-degree degree weather in Maricopa County, we're knocking on doors for Kerry Lake and we're knocking on doors for our grassroots.

00:26:00.000 And I just think it's representative that the RNC is not listening to the people that matter.

00:26:06.000 And that's the grassroots.

00:26:07.000 Let me read from this article in NBC News.

00:26:09.000 I'm flipping through it here.

00:26:10.000 Again, they can't even call you, Scott, which is just beyond me.

00:26:13.000 You have the RNC that's fit $400 million a cycle.

00:26:16.000 How about we call the guy that's working his tail off 14, 15, 16-hour days, rallying the grassroots to do that sort of stuff?

00:26:23.000 It's puzzling.

00:26:24.000 Let me read this from the NBC article because you mentioned Nevada, but it's not as if we didn't spend money in Nevada.

00:26:29.000 Quote, donors have been eager to open their wallets for the type of work of getting early voting.

00:26:35.000 And campaign finance records show canvassing is a multi-million dollar business.

00:26:39.000 Just how effective those dollars are is questionable.

00:26:42.000 Sources say, with some warning, the consequences of incorrect data could be significant.

00:26:47.000 Because these numbers are recycled, they're used in text messages, they're used in mailers, they're used to target voters, said one GOP operative, Tyler.

00:26:54.000 You know, we met what, seven or eight years ago, we immediately connected because I got started in the trench of the grassroots suburbs of Chicago.

00:27:01.000 You know, you were Maricopa County chairman.

00:27:03.000 Does the RNC have it in their DNA to actually build something in the grassroots?

00:27:08.000 It's such a foreign concept to the DC lobbying crowd.

00:27:11.000 Well, again, it's not really do they have the capacity?

00:27:16.000 It's really should they be doing it, right?

00:27:18.000 That's the question.

00:27:19.000 And the Democrats, what they figured out is the answer is no.

00:27:22.000 The DNC shouldn't be doing it.

00:27:24.000 The RNC shouldn't be doing it.

00:27:25.000 What should the RNC be doing?

00:27:27.000 They should be hosting a very frugal convention to nominate a president of the United States.

00:27:33.000 And they should be doing the perfunctory things that are necessary to do them successfully, like debates and things like that, that need attention and effort.

00:27:43.000 These outside groups, the Scott Presslers of the world, are who we need to invest into for long-term action to make sure we get out the vote accordingly and chase the ballots that we need to chase while also putting effort and pressure on election integrity because this is part of election integrity.

00:28:00.000 Bodies on the ground and bodies at doors will help us prevent fraud.

00:28:05.000 That's exactly right.

00:28:06.000 Tyler and Scott stay after the break.

00:28:08.000 Again, tpaction.com, the story's up post-millennial.

00:28:12.000 While everyone is wondering what's going on, we got Pence in here.

00:28:14.000 That's all a distraction.

00:28:16.000 Trump's going to be the nominee unless something totally wild happens.

00:28:21.000 But let's say DeSantis has some big surge that we don't see in the carts.

00:28:25.000 Okay.

00:28:26.000 What's the machine?

00:28:28.000 Who's got full-time staff in Arizona right now?

00:28:30.000 Right now, who has full-time staff?

00:28:31.000 We do.

00:28:31.000 Turning point Action does.

00:28:32.000 Tyler, what do we have?

00:28:34.000 15 people on the ground?

00:28:36.000 10, 15 people here at Turning Point Action in Arizona-ish, right?

00:28:40.000 Our goals have a lot more.

00:28:42.000 Well, we want to have like 500.

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00:29:54.000 Scott Pressler, you're blunt about this.

00:29:56.000 And I want people to know, again, we're announcing a $5 million ballot chasing.

00:29:59.000 And that's the start, Scott.

00:30:00.000 Our anticipation is to grow on that, Scott.

00:30:02.000 What would that money be spent on, right?

00:30:04.000 This is not spent on TV ads or, you know, plush nonsense, flowers, Lululemon memberships, or donor mementos.

00:30:10.000 Scott, it would be sent on what?

00:30:12.000 What would that money be spent on?

00:30:14.000 This is boots on the ground.

00:30:16.000 If I were in charge and I had the opportunity, I would begin hiring boots on the ground immediately, that they would be doing voter registration, growing the electorate, that they would be getting voters to sign up for mail-in ballots, that we would be doing trainings across the state of Wisconsin, for example, on the value and importance of early voting.

00:30:36.000 It would be going to continued usage of the early vote action application that people can download on both Android and iPhone, that we can have people from the comfort of their home calling and texting prospective voters, doing polling, finding out their issues and getting important data to build that infrastructure.

00:30:58.000 So it wouldn't be spent on things like TV or things that aren't, that you're actually talking to the voter.

00:31:07.000 This is all going to be face-to-face.

00:31:09.000 This is going to be sweat equity.

00:31:11.000 This is going to be elbow grease building the infrastructure for 2024.

00:31:15.000 Okay, so Tyler, you're on the RNC thing.

00:31:17.000 Look, the money has to be spent.

00:31:19.000 They are, you know, they're going out.

00:31:21.000 They're saying, oh, we got to do all these sorts of things.

00:31:23.000 Here's a simple question.

00:31:24.000 Tyler, why does the RNC have an office in Washington, D.C.?

00:31:28.000 How is that going to win us voters in Maricopa County?

00:31:31.000 We've been saying for a long time, Charlie, is like if I was running the RNC, I'd board up the building in DC and I'd open up an office in every key target state and run as much of our money and investment through those states and then work with these outside groups and encourage and support these outside groups to work.

00:31:50.000 I mean, you just brought this up.

00:31:52.000 You know, Chris Christie, why is he thinking about running for anything?

00:31:55.000 You know, why is Asa Hutchinson running for anything?

00:31:59.000 Why are these people, why are donors wasting money investing into lifeless loser campaigns that are never going to go anywhere?

00:32:08.000 You know, what would be helpful is invest money into long-term infrastructure that puts more R votes into the ballot box.

00:32:16.000 Whoa, I mean, you have to wonder, Tyler, we're short on time.

00:32:19.000 I mean, is Chris Christie just here to make a bunch of noise to distract so that we don't invest in this stuff?

00:32:24.000 Is Chris Christie here to go make a mess of things?

00:32:26.000 Scott, you're nodding your head.

00:32:27.000 I mean, is Doug Bergam and Chris Christie and Asa Hutchinson, are they here to try to be a very big and distracting smokescreen operation so we don't build the grassroots?

00:32:36.000 Scott, sorry to interrupt you, Tyler, but Scott.

00:32:40.000 Absolutely.

00:32:40.000 Look, everything else is a distraction.

00:32:43.000 It doesn't matter right now who people are supporting in the primary process because we have to have the infrastructure to win.

00:32:51.000 We have to get those paper ballots into mailboxes or Dropboxes or get them to vote on election day.

00:32:58.000 But it doesn't matter who the nominee is if we don't have that infrastructure.

00:33:03.000 So yes, this is all distraction.

00:33:05.000 It's smoke and mirrors.

00:33:06.000 It's designed to take our eyes off the prize.

00:33:09.000 We're here to register voters, do mail-in ballots, do early voting, get boots on the ground, have offices in key counties like Milwaukee and Madison and Maricopa and Philadelphia to make sure that our candidate next year can actually win.

00:33:24.000 Tyler, closing thoughts.

00:33:27.000 Yeah, I mean, Charlie, I cannot reinforce enough how important this moment is in American history.

00:33:33.000 We have had the opportunity of a lifetime with retaking Ohio and Florida, which were our battleground states just 10 years ago.

00:33:42.000 And now we have all we have to do is defend states and invest into states and invest into key activist leaders like Scott Pressler and so many others in early vote action and so many other organizations, Tea Party Patriots Action, us here at Turning Point Action, and get the bodies on the ground to defend America for another generation.

00:34:01.000 That is the task.

00:34:03.000 And I think Scott's up to it.

00:34:04.000 I think we're up to it.

00:34:05.000 And I think you're up to it.

00:34:06.000 And I think we can do it.

00:34:08.000 The grassroots is up to it.

00:34:09.000 This is the, it says in the article, the RNC is formally revealing why the party fell short of expectations.

00:34:14.000 Officials overseeing the nationals post-midterm audit did not respond to questions.

00:34:19.000 Hey, how about this?

00:34:19.000 You have an office in Washington, D.C. Close it.

00:34:22.000 Fire the staff in D.C. and open up an office right now in Scottsdale, in Buckhead and Kenosha.

00:34:28.000 Hello?

00:34:29.000 Chase some ballots and stop giving $17 million of donor mementos unnecessarily and $700,000 on flowers.

00:34:37.000 Scott Pressler, we're going to do it ourselves.

00:34:38.000 Tyler Boyer, tpaction.com.

00:34:40.000 That's tpaction.com.

00:34:42.000 We're going to get everything we have.

00:34:43.000 Thanks so much, guys.

00:34:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:47.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:51.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 01, 2023

Turning Point Action Pledges $5 Million to Ballot Chase in Wisconsin with Scott Presler and Tyler Bowyer

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