The Charlie Kirk Show - March 28, 2023


Turning the Transgender Tide with Riley Gaines and Jordan Schachtel


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Riley Gaines joins us to talk about women s sports, and Jordan Schachtel does a little riff on AOC at the end of the program. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/sponsors

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Riley Gaines joins us and Jordan Schachtel to talk about women's sports Ukraine and then we do a little riff on AOC at the end of the program.
00:00:09.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with TurningPointUSA today at tpusa.com.
00:00:15.000 Buckle up everybody here.
00:00:17.000 We go.
00:00:17.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:19.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:21.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:25.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:28.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:29.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:30.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:38.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:01.000 When I was young, 9, 10, 11 years old, there was one channel I would watch every morning.
00:01:08.000 I would get up extra early before bed, especially on the weekends, and I would watch Sports Center on ESPN.
00:01:19.000 It used to be a great channel.
00:01:22.000 Scott Van Pelt, Stuart Scott, may he rest in peace.
00:01:26.000 They were funny, entertaining, engaging.
00:01:30.000 They made sports appealing.
00:01:33.000 It was a whole new way of looking at sports.
00:01:37.000 It was not just the top 10, but the not top 10, which by the way, if my memory serves me correctly, they got rid of the not top 10 because of Mark Sanchez's or Sanchez butt fumble that happened on thing.
00:01:48.000 I think he just, it was like six months of Mark Sanchez with the butt fumble, and they had to get rid of it.
00:01:54.000 Maybe I'm misremembering.
00:01:55.000 Anyway, I used to love ESPN.
00:01:58.000 Their little commercials of this is Sports Center.
00:02:01.000 And like all beautiful things, the locusts, the parasites, the vermin, they took it over. 0.71
00:02:06.000 The wokies did. 0.98
00:02:08.000 In a industry that should be outside of politics and outside of these kind of cultural trends, they've decided to lean in.
00:02:21.000 And the most disgusting, one of the most disgusting chapters has just happened in the last couple of days.
00:02:28.000 Joining us now is Riley Gaines, a former professional, not professional, former college athlete and swimmer who had to compete against Thomas, the man who is a cheater, and she should have probably won the national championship if it wasn't for the man.
00:02:41.000 Riley, welcome to the program.
00:02:43.000 Last time you were here, we made a lot of headlines, and so welcome back.
00:02:46.000 Well, thank you so much for having me on again, Charlie.
00:02:50.000 Of course.
00:02:50.000 All right, I'm going to play this piece of tape for our audience.
00:02:53.000 This is an ESPN little bio pic, if you will, celebrating Women's History Month by showing a man, Thomas, PlayCut 18.
00:03:04.000 In 2022, swimmer Leah Thomas became the first transgender athlete to win an NCAA Division I championship by winning the 500 freestyle.
00:03:14.000 The Texas native competed for three seasons on the men's swim team at the University of Pennsylvania.
00:03:20.000 She began her transition after the sophomore season.
00:03:23.000 She said she hopes her persistence serves a larger purpose.
00:03:27.000 People will say, oh, she just transitioned. 0.82
00:03:30.000 So she would have an advantage if she could win.
00:03:32.000 I transitioned to be happy. 1.00
00:03:36.000 Why are the women at ESPN putting up with this? 1.00
00:03:38.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:03:38.000 Riley, your thoughts. 1.00
00:03:40.000 I have no idea why the women are putting up with this. 1.00
00:03:43.000 I don't understand.
00:03:44.000 It's like they don't see the irony of celebrating a man during National or Women's History Month.
00:03:51.000 How are these women okay with it? 0.97
00:03:52.000 And it begs the question, where are the feminists? 1.00
00:03:55.000 Where are the women? 0.99
00:03:56.000 Where is the group who wore the pink hats?
00:03:59.000 Who wanted to empower women, real women? 1.00
00:04:04.000 I can't even answer that.
00:04:05.000 I will say, though, that I just admire Sage Sheehel, who's an ESPN reporter.
00:04:10.000 She does Sports Center, I believe, and she stood up to this and she said this is wild, this is wrong.
00:04:15.000 She recognizes the differences between men and women and why it's unfair and harmful for women to have men in women's sports and in our locker rooms.
00:04:23.000 I want to read your tweet.
00:04:24.000 You said Leah Thomas is not a brave, courageous woman who earned a national title.
00:04:28.000 He is an arrogant cheat, amen, who stole a national title from a hardworking, deserving woman.
00:04:35.000 The NCAA is responsible. 0.99
00:04:37.000 If I was a woman working at ESPN, I would walk out.
00:04:40.000 You're spineless. 0.55
00:04:41.000 Elaborate more.
00:04:43.000 Well, a lot of people, obviously, even the SPN, as we've seen, universities, large organizations, the media, they like to deem Thomas as a courageous, brave woman.
00:04:56.000 How, one, is Leah Thomas courageous or brave? 0.63
00:05:00.000 I think Leah Thomas is a coward. 0.99
00:05:02.000 I think Leah is selfish and showed utter disregard towards women, towards our privacy, towards our safety, towards our feelings, our fairness, our opportunities. 1.00
00:05:12.000 There was no regard for that.
00:05:14.000 Yet they expect us to be kind to them and be respectful to them.
00:05:18.000 To me, respect is something that's earned.
00:05:21.000 Leah Thomas did not earn my respect by any means. 0.99
00:05:24.000 And so I wanted to add the piece in there about the NCAA being responsible because, you know, and I do think Leah Thomas is selfish. 1.00
00:05:32.000 I think Leah Thomas, like I mentioned, had no regard for us as female athletes.
00:05:36.000 But it's not Thomas's fault. 0.82
00:05:38.000 Thomas was following the guidelines that the NCAA put in place.
00:05:42.000 And so I think it's crucial to acknowledge that the NCAA is at fault here.
00:05:46.000 Leah Thomas was simply following the rules that allowed this to happen, which were 100% perpetrated by the NCAA.
00:05:54.000 They forced us to participate in Leah Thomas' fetish, which included it has now come out that Leah Thomas is an AGP, which means you are sexually aroused by dressing as a woman. 0.89
00:06:04.000 And the NCAA put us in a locker room with someone who gets off on that.
00:06:08.000 So the NCAA is responsible.
00:06:10.000 And I wanted to put that point in there.
00:06:13.000 And ESPN is celebrating that.
00:06:15.000 What constituency are they trying to pander to?
00:06:19.000 It's really bizarre.
00:06:20.000 And I mean, Disney is already, you know, letting off a lot of employees right now.
00:06:27.000 And so, so, Riley, I want to just want, I'm wondering just kind of the response you're receiving.
00:06:32.000 And what do your critics say?
00:06:35.000 I'm very curious, because this should be very simple and very elemental.
00:06:41.000 I mean, you should have been a national champion in swimming, and a man comes in and steals it from you.
00:06:48.000 He exposes himself to you in a locker room.
00:06:52.000 He should have been arrested for that, right?
00:06:53.000 For public indecent exposure.
00:06:56.000 We used to have a country that used to exist.
00:06:59.000 Last time we had a dialogue, I said people would take care of it.
00:07:02.000 That's exactly what I meant: you would be arrested for exposing yourself.
00:07:05.000 If you just kind of walk into a woman's locker room and expose yourself, that used to be called a crime. 0.78
00:07:10.000 Now it's called progress.
00:07:12.000 But I'm curious, what is the response that you receive from people?
00:07:18.000 What do your critics say?
00:07:20.000 Overwhelming amount of support.
00:07:22.000 I'm talking about support from all over the political spectrum, which is what makes this topic, this issue, so interesting.
00:07:29.000 Obviously, we know there are very few things in politics that people can agree on.
00:07:33.000 But this is something, you know, denying man and woman. 1.00
00:07:36.000 We can't even define what a woman is.
00:07:38.000 These liberals who, of course, will die on this hill of being able to define a woman, they see what's at stake here.
00:07:46.000 They see how they're trying to eradicate women at the systemic level. 0.57
00:07:50.000 And so I have had an overwhelming amount of support from female athletes, from parents, from medical professionals, from coaches, people within the NCAA.
00:07:59.000 There's so much support, which shows me that we are the overwhelming majority in this topic, which begs the question, okay, then why are we catering to the minority?
00:08:10.000 Why are we sacrificing 51% of the population at the expense of half a percent of the population?
00:08:17.000 I don't know the exact statistic, but I can't imagine the trans community makes up more than half a percent of the population.
00:08:23.000 So why are we catering to this?
00:08:24.000 And it's because that we thought this would be a one-off instance, but people are realizing it's not.
00:08:31.000 And they see the propaganda being pushed and they're becoming more bold.
00:08:34.000 They're becoming louder and they're starting to use their voices more.
00:08:37.000 And I really truthfully believe that the tides are about to turn.
00:08:41.000 I sure hope so.
00:08:42.000 I mean, I'll be honest, I don't see the backlash that you see, but you're kind of more in it than I am.
00:08:49.000 And so it's very interesting.
00:08:52.000 I want to explore this and we have you for another topic.
00:08:54.000 If you listen to Thomas, the narcissistic cheats profile there on ESPN, he said, I didn't do this to win.
00:09:02.000 I did this to be happy.
00:09:05.000 And that's really interesting because since when do we reaccommodate society for your own personal happiness?
00:09:12.000 I'm sure a lot of people would be happier if they could go rob a bank, but it would be theft.
00:09:18.000 It would be wrong.
00:09:19.000 I'm sure some people would be happier if you could walk into women's locker rooms and be like a weird creep, but it would be wrong. 0.97
00:09:28.000 But unfortunately, post-1960s liberalism and leftism and the postmodern construct is your individual happiness matters more than societal norms, things that govern fairness.
00:09:39.000 Their idea of justice is their own individual, their own individual quote-unquote pleasure or happiness.
00:09:45.000 30 seconds, Riley.
00:09:47.000 I think it's incredibly ironic that Thomas says that he does this for happiness because playing a Division I sport, especially at the national level where you're competing for that top spot in the country, never once did swimming ask me if I was happy.
00:10:02.000 You know, do you feel okay?
00:10:03.000 Do you want to jump in the cold water at 4 a.m.?
00:10:06.000 Playing a Division I sport is a privilege.
00:10:08.000 It is not a right.
00:10:09.000 It does not go to someone who just wants to do it to be happy.
00:10:13.000 You have to work.
00:10:14.000 You have to earn that spot.
00:10:15.000 And Thomas did not.
00:10:17.000 No.
00:10:17.000 Cheated and stole.
00:10:19.000 Stay right there, Riley.
00:10:20.000 Riley, I want to talk about the other examples of men that are stealing championships right now.
00:10:25.000 It's happening across the country, and our society is letting it happen.
00:10:30.000 And our men who have basically become feminized versions of an infant just kind of sit and like, well, I guess that's unfair.
00:10:38.000 So, Riley, I really enjoy your Twitter feed because you update the world and me on how men are continually cheating and stealing championships from women.
00:10:49.000 There was one recently, there was a track championship.
00:10:52.000 Can you tell us about that?
00:10:53.000 It was a state championship, I believe.
00:10:55.000 Yes, this was the state track and field championships in Massachusetts.
00:11:00.000 I'm sure you saw the picture on my Twitter, which I wish I could show it on here.
00:11:05.000 Yeah, I'll get it.
00:11:06.000 I'll do my best to get it.
00:11:07.000 Keep going, though.
00:11:09.000 But this is a male who competed as a male and finished at the bottom every single time, who has now transitioned to a woman and helped his team win the state track and field championship.
00:11:22.000 His name is Chloe Barnes.
00:11:24.000 When he was doing an interview, and when the interviewer asked him, you know, what do you have to say about the people who are in opposition of you competing?
00:11:33.000 Chloe says, just deal with it.
00:11:35.000 Deal with it. 1.00
00:11:36.000 Which is exactly why I consider Leah Thomas also a narcissist. 0.94
00:11:41.000 These people want the world to stop for their own benefit and not thinking about anyone else's feelings, anyone else's safety, anyone else's fairness, their privacy, and definitely not the integrity of sports.
00:11:54.000 If you look at psychology, women tend to be more agreeable and men tend to be disagreeable. 1.00
00:11:59.000 So I look at these pictures of these young ladies that are taking pictures with these cheats afterwards.
00:12:05.000 And it's just not up to, I mean, they just are less likely to say there's anything wrong with it.
00:12:09.000 But honestly, what should have happened is the cheat should have just ran and everyone else should have just had their just boycotted it, just sat down.
00:12:18.000 Would have been made nationwide headlines. 0.99
00:12:20.000 Why is it that women are so, I mean, again, it's not a fair question. 1.00
00:12:24.000 It just really bothers me because it's not as if angry women is anything we're new to, right? 0.99
00:12:29.000 I mean, angry women come to my events all the time. 0.99
00:12:31.000 They scream at conservatives, they scream at their husbands, they scream at Donald Trump. 0.99
00:12:35.000 Why are women not angry at men stealing their championships? 0.99
00:12:38.000 It's virtue signaling. 0.81
00:12:40.000 These people, they want to be seen as kind.
00:12:43.000 They want to be seen as inclusive.
00:12:45.000 They want to be seen as welcoming and accepting and tolerant and all of those things, but they just haven't realized yet it is not kind to allow a man into a woman's space. 0.98
00:12:57.000 It is not kind for me, a 22-year-old, to turn around and see another 22-year-old drop his pants, fully exposed with male genitalia, watching other women undress.
00:13:08.000 That is not kind. 0.95
00:13:09.000 That is not inclusive.
00:13:11.000 It's actually exclusive.
00:13:12.000 It's exclusive to the very people that the women's sporting category was created to protect.
00:13:18.000 And I think it's just a matter of time before people realize that.
00:13:22.000 And like I said, I believe more and more people are.
00:13:25.000 But no one wants to ruffle feathers.
00:13:27.000 No one wants to step on toes.
00:13:28.000 But you're exactly right.
00:13:29.000 That's how changes are going to be made.
00:13:32.000 Of course, legislature is an amazing way to start.
00:13:37.000 These different states that are passing these bills, that's fantastic.
00:13:41.000 But the easiest way to make impact is to not race, not run, not get on that starting block.
00:13:47.000 But that's a big ask.
00:13:49.000 And I understand that, but we have to be willing to make sacrifices.
00:13:53.000 Yeah, I mean, it's sacrifices, but it's also just why would you want to participate against a cheater?
00:13:58.000 And so is the NCAA a common, are they just continuing in this direction where men can basically steal championships from women?
00:14:05.000 Is that the new position of the NCAA? 0.81
00:14:08.000 Yeah, that is.
00:14:09.000 That's exactly what's happening.
00:14:11.000 The NCAA claims there are only 34 trans athletes in the NCAA, but that could not be further from the truth.
00:14:17.000 There are so many athletes.
00:14:19.000 I actually just watched a diving championship, a conference championship, where a male was diving against all women.
00:14:25.000 I know of about 10 lacrosse men who are playing on the women's team off the top of my head.
00:14:30.000 But the NCAA, they're essentially in a phasing out approach.
00:14:33.000 What they want is they want no accountability.
00:14:36.000 They don't want to deal with it.
00:14:37.000 They don't want to be the ones responsible for anything.
00:14:40.000 So what they're trying to do is phase out and leave it up to sports-specific organizations like World Athletics, who has just now said that if you've gone through puberty as a male, you will not compete with the women.
00:14:51.000 So they're looking to phase out the NCAA is.
00:14:55.000 I just, it's remarkable to me, and it's happening all around us.
00:15:00.000 Here's Cut 16.
00:15:01.000 Here's Holly Holm, who is a woman UFC fighter, play Cut 16.
00:15:07.000 Something that's got on my heart, and I feel like I have the platform to stand.
00:15:10.000 I need to stand.
00:15:12.000 I just feel it's really sad on the sexualization of our children right now.
00:15:15.000 And we need to protect them without letting me be like the children.
00:15:20.000 Please do anything we can.
00:15:23.000 At least she's speaking out.
00:15:24.000 Riley, closing thoughts.
00:15:25.000 You're also speaking at a Turning Point USA chapter event, aren't you?
00:15:28.000 Sometime soon?
00:15:29.000 I am tonight.
00:15:30.000 I'm actually in Pittsburgh right now, sitting on the street, which is why my camera is a little shaky.
00:15:35.000 But there's a lot of media generated around this event.
00:15:37.000 Of course, Dylan Mulvaney was just at Pittsburgh where he was paid $26,000 to be here with no protests. 0.60
00:15:44.000 But yeah, I'm speaking here and I'm the domestic terrorist and the fascists. 0.52
00:15:48.000 That's an interesting question. 0.96
00:15:49.000 Maybe we should start protesting them, obviously peacefully, but we should call Dylan Mulvaney a creepy dude who is appropriating womenhood. 0.94
00:15:56.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:15:57.000 We got to change our tactics.
00:15:58.000 Stay peaceful, of course, but these people are robbing our society.
00:16:01.000 Riley, God bless you if you're back 100%.
00:16:03.000 Thank you.
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00:18:46.000 Joining us now is Jordan Schachtle to talk about Stolen Valor and Adam Kinzinger.
00:18:51.000 Jordan, welcome to the program.
00:18:52.000 This is a very interesting story.
00:18:54.000 Walk our audience through it.
00:18:56.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me.
00:18:58.000 So this started a long time ago, but the easiest way to catch up to speed, basically, is that the New York Times dropped a pretty critical story of what was going on with all these volunteers going to Ukraine and the fact that they raised all this money for these war efforts through PayPal, through Venmo.
00:19:19.000 And by the way, anyone listening, please do not, when someone tries to raise funds through these sketchy mediums without a nonprofit organization, don't give them money.
00:19:29.000 Don't send it to their PayPal address.
00:19:32.000 But anyway, what happened was that this organization called Ripley's Heroes, a Ukrainian, a pro-Ukraine organization that was supposedly a nonprofit raising funds to buy a variety of goods and services to supposedly support the war effort.
00:19:51.000 And what they found was that this organization is now under federal investigation, but they were also moving money from the nonprofit into the for-profit.
00:20:02.000 I mean, Charlie, you're very familiar with the strict regulations.
00:20:05.000 Very much.
00:20:06.000 I live by them every day.
00:20:07.000 We have an audit committee and we have a CFO and it takes two signatures on checks.
00:20:12.000 And, you know, we go through internal audits to the highest degree.
00:20:15.000 It's no joke, right?
00:20:16.000 I mean, we fill out Form 990s.
00:20:18.000 But anyway, please continue.
00:20:20.000 Yeah, so there's definitely a process, as you alluded to.
00:20:24.000 And what was happening was that this organization, they were taking some money from the nonprofit, putting it into a for-profit.
00:20:31.000 And oh, by the way, the nonprofit doesn't really have 501c3 status, so it's not really tax exempt.
00:20:37.000 So there's all this weird stuff going on.
00:20:38.000 They're under federal investigation.
00:20:40.000 And I was kind of like browsing through social media, doing some open source research, and I found that our good friend Adam Kinzinger was actually on the board of advisors of this organization that is now under federal investigation.
00:20:56.000 Interestingly, the New York Times did not mention that in their piece, but he was this premier board member who was helping to raise money for this organization that reportedly raised millions of dollars.
00:21:10.000 You know, they were supposed to be buying night vision goggles for Ukrainian troops.
00:21:15.000 They were supposed to be financing some of the war effort.
00:21:19.000 And it seemed that the people behind this organization were not, they couldn't show any evidence that these night vision goggles were arriving, these jeeps and all this other stuff.
00:21:30.000 So it seems that they were engaged in a giant fraud scheme.
00:21:36.000 And it seems that this is kind of the person who's been attracted to travel over there.
00:21:42.000 Ukraine is notorious for its corruption.
00:21:45.000 And they kind of just have been even like these big tech companies like PayPal and Venmo have been setting up these special mechanisms for them to get funding.
00:21:56.000 And that's a whole nother angle of the story that hasn't really been explored: is that these big tech organizations that are targeting conservatives because of what you believe in, they're happy to assist with these Ukraine money laundering operations where there's really no checks and balances on anything.
00:22:13.000 But Kinzinger is seemingly heavily involved.
00:22:18.000 If you go on his Twitter account, he's been promoting the heck out of this organization to play, to steel man the Kinsinger argument.
00:22:29.000 I guess you could say that he is notoriously naive about everything, which is true.
00:22:34.000 This is the man who thought that the ghost of Kiev was a real fighter pilot that was shooting down all of these Russian fighter jets.
00:22:42.000 And he's basically bought into every hoax.
00:22:45.000 He does not see well through the fog of war.
00:22:48.000 So I suppose you can make an argument that he was very naive, but he's involved with what appears to be a criminal organization.
00:22:54.000 Yeah, so let me ask you, though, did he make any money off of this?
00:22:59.000 It doesn't appear so.
00:23:01.000 It appears that he has more so a volunteer.
00:23:06.000 He is an official member of the board of advisors, but I think they made it pretty clear that he wasn't going to be taking money.
00:23:14.000 But, you know, there's other ways to end up on the receiving end of this stuff.
00:23:20.000 When he provided what I think is the most important, his stamp of approval.
00:23:25.000 This is a guy, as you recall, that was on the January 6th committee.
00:23:29.000 Supposed to be all about oversight, transparency, rule of law.
00:23:33.000 And meanwhile, he's shuttling funds that were virtually untraceable.
00:23:40.000 I think that PayPal would know a lot if they were to come forward about this into this Eastern European money laundering mechanism.
00:23:49.000 Yeah, so how much money has gone through this company?
00:23:52.000 Reportedly, millions of dollars in donations.
00:23:55.000 And in the New York Times piece, the reporters asked these executives at this organization called Ripley's Heroes, which is the one that's under investigation, if they could provide receipts for the donations.
00:24:09.000 And it was just all this like off-the-book stuff.
00:24:13.000 And the reporters found that, you know, some of the money was going to this company, the for-profit company called Iron Horse, while some of it was just sitting in a bank account.
00:24:24.000 And it's just a very confusing mess.
00:24:27.000 And there's all these players involved who reportedly volunteered to serve in the Ukrainian military.
00:24:35.000 And meanwhile, there's no paperwork of them having served in the Ukrainian military.
00:24:39.000 So it's just a very just made a bunch of money personally is what you're saying.
00:24:47.000 It sure seems like that.
00:24:50.000 And again, this is the important of having transparency in governance, both on an executive, private level, but also when you're dealing with another country.
00:25:03.000 And this seems to be like a micro example of a macro problem of what's going on in Ukraine.
00:25:09.000 You have this, we've, the United States has allocated over $100 billion to this country.
00:25:15.000 We're shipping all these weapons to them.
00:25:17.000 And in my previous reporting, like it's just so what you find is so absurd.
00:25:22.000 Like the Ukrainian military officials are writing paper receipts and then they're they're just like giving them to U.S. military officials and being like, okay, see, we got this.
00:25:33.000 It's not going to any weird people.
00:25:34.000 Here's this write-up and we'll sign off on it.
00:25:38.000 But it's just a very unfortunate trend in what's going on with that war.
00:25:44.000 There's no transparency on the private or public side.
00:25:46.000 So what are you see more broadly in conservative circles on Ukraine?
00:25:46.000 No.
00:25:51.000 I mean, we thought this was a dumb idea from the beginning. 0.80
00:25:54.000 I think that viewpoint is actually growing.
00:25:56.000 The great Victor Davis Hansen, who I admire and love his writings, he was definitely probably more in the camp of intervention, but prudent intervention.
00:26:07.000 And VDH came out with a powerful piece.
00:26:09.000 I'm going to find it in just a second here, where he's basically saying, what does success look like?
00:26:15.000 It's at victorhanson.com.
00:26:17.000 And he's asking the questions.
00:26:18.000 Yeah, this is great.
00:26:19.000 Questions without answers about Ukraine.
00:26:22.000 And he just goes through it in the way that VDH does and basically just really slices up the DC Uniparty.
00:26:29.000 I mean, it's basically 30 questions asked by VDH.
00:26:34.000 He says, is the Ukrainian war creating the most dangerous anti-American alliances since World War II?
00:26:39.000 That's a thought crime, VDH.
00:26:40.000 You're not allowed to ask that.
00:26:41.000 Stay in line.
00:26:42.000 Just do war all the time. 0.98
00:26:43.000 What are you seeing in conservative circles?
00:26:47.000 There definitely does seem to be movement.
00:26:49.000 I think, Charlie, you and I were some of the early critics of we were just asking some basic questions about what the heck is going on here.
00:26:56.000 You're called Kremlin agents for that.
00:26:58.000 Yeah, but the label doesn't seem to have much sticking power because there are some very influential people, VDH, one of our great thinkers.
00:27:09.000 But there still are a lot of conservative heavyweights, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, who remain adamantly supportive of this.
00:27:19.000 And I have to respectfully disagree with their position, which I think is becoming more and more unpopular.
00:27:25.000 I mean, you've seen this with both Trump and DeSantis are very skeptical about increased U.S. involvement, specifically because of the fact that the Europeans are slacking so much and we're providing so much.
00:27:39.000 We already provide an umbrella defense organization for their entire continent.
00:27:44.000 And now we need to fund this war effort.
00:27:46.000 And by the way, you know, Ukraine's borders are 5,000 miles away from the United States.
00:27:51.000 It just boggles the mind when someone tells me that we need to fight them over there so they don't come over here.
00:27:59.000 So Putin doesn't march.
00:28:00.000 Really?
00:28:01.000 We haven't gotten past that. 1.00
00:28:02.000 We haven't had the funeral and said the eulogy to that just vapid, stupid talking point. 0.99
00:28:10.000 I wish we had, but it seems that the Washington, D.C. beltway, as you well know, is just inundated with these people that can't get rid of this globalist, whatever you want to call it, neoliberal, neoconservative, these ideas about projecting insane amounts of imperial power overseas. 0.99
00:28:30.000 And of course, it comes back to harm American citizens.
00:28:33.000 No American benefits from throwing hundreds of billions of dollars into this war.
00:28:38.000 In fact, it's just hurting everyone with the skyrocketing inflation and such.
00:28:42.000 So VDH writes, I mean, it's just one question after the other.
00:28:46.000 He would not have written this article a year ago.
00:28:49.000 I mean, I listened to a lot of VDH a year ago.
00:28:51.000 He was, you know, gotta deter, hold the Western order.
00:28:55.000 Now VDH is asking a question of why were we mostly silent when an appeasing Joe Biden begged Vladimir Putin to spare at least some U.S. targets on his otherwise extensive anti-American cyber war hit list?
00:29:05.000 Why are we not so eager for confrontation when Putin earlier acquired eastern Ukraine borderlands and Crimean 14 in the first place under Obama?
00:29:12.000 Why all of a sudden now?
00:29:13.000 Or why so subdued when the United States in 1516 refused to sell Ukraine offensive weapons?
00:29:18.000 Why does the United States discount the serial and ascending nuclear threats from Russia, but remain careful not to antagonize China?
00:29:25.000 VDH continues by saying, why is the administration so quiet but a likely leak of an engineered deadly COVID-19 virus from a Chinese virology lab that killed a million Americans? 0.57
00:29:35.000 These are Ukraine war-related questions that never seem to be answered, but should be as the carnage rises and the nuclear threshold falls.
00:29:42.000 45 seconds, your thoughts, Jordan.
00:29:45.000 For sure.
00:29:46.000 U.S. foreign policymakers are playing a very dangerous game right now.
00:29:50.000 And I completely agree with all VDH's sentiments.
00:29:53.000 And to add to that, we have to remember that the Nord Stream pipeline bombing, all of the evidence seems to point in the direction that it was authorized by our, either our Biden administration or our deep, unaccountable deep state.
00:30:09.000 And when we're talking about two powers with thousands and thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons, it is best for everyone involved to try to calm everything down, to try to bring people to the negotiating table.
00:30:24.000 And I think to their credit, the two frontrunners in the presidential race, Trump and DeSantis, really might really understand that as opposed to, you know, you have these Nikki Haleys, you have these Mike Pompeos that want to see them invade the world and fight the world.
00:30:41.000 So Jordan, check out his substack, Jordan Schochtl, the dossier.
00:30:41.000 That's right.
00:30:46.000 That's dossier.substack.com.
00:30:48.000 Jordan, thank you so much.
00:30:49.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:30:49.000 Appreciate it.
00:30:53.000 Are you feeling burned out and a little tired?
00:30:55.000 Look, I want to tell you about something that I've become a big believer in.
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00:31:24.000 And so, what does NAD stand for?
00:31:26.000 Well, try to take a note here.
00:31:28.000 It is nicotinamide adenonide dinucleotide.
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00:33:48.000 I'm going to get to some more tape here.
00:33:50.000 Boy, there's a lot happening in Israel.
00:33:52.000 There's a lot happening all over the world.
00:33:54.000 Let's go to cut eight.
00:33:55.000 AOC has some strong thoughts for cisgender and often straight men who are the ones that are after your kids.
00:34:03.000 So AOC is saying that straight men and cisgender people are the groomers.
00:34:08.000 Now, I lose track of what cisgender is.
00:34:11.000 I think cisgender is normal, right?
00:34:12.000 Cisgender is what we are.
00:34:15.000 I can't keep track of all this stuff.
00:34:17.000 Okay, play cut eight. 0.80
00:34:19.000 Many of these disgusting and insinuating attacks on trans and LGBT people are actually projections of what predatory cisgender and often straight men do when left alone in the presence of women or sometimes horribly children.
00:34:34.000 So instead of getting you to challenge the patriarchy, they're trying to get you to challenge the very gender expressiveness that challenges patriarchy.
00:34:43.000 Don't get it twisted, because a lot of people attacking drag are projecting.
00:34:46.000 I think the real victim here is her fiancé.
00:34:50.000 I mean, come on.
00:34:51.000 You're going to have to live with that for the rest of your life.
00:34:56.000 I could say more, but I won't. 0.97
00:35:01.000 She basically just called her fiancé a groomer.
00:35:03.000 As I was saying, that could you imagine him just kind of sitting there in the chair, kind of like, hey, can you pay attention to me?
00:35:12.000 Just stop it.
00:35:13.000 I need to do a video.
00:35:16.000 Hey, no, no, my hair's not right.
00:35:19.000 Hey, sorry.
00:35:21.000 She just calls her fiancé a groomer. 0.98
00:35:23.000 It's those cisgender people. 1.00
00:35:25.000 They're terrible. 1.00
00:35:28.000 Go make me a sandwich.
00:35:30.000 She says to her fiancé.
00:35:33.000 Okay.
00:35:35.000 That's not going to end well, my friend.
00:35:37.000 What's that guy's name?
00:35:38.000 Someone should just really give him some tough love conversation.
00:35:41.000 Like, dude, you got to get on the escape pod when you can't.
00:35:45.000 You just got to pull the escape hatch.
00:35:46.000 Riley Roberts.
00:35:50.000 Yeah, that's not going to work.
00:35:52.000 Okay, I could say more, but I would choose not to.
00:35:55.000 Let's email me freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:59.000 Stacey Plaskett continued on MSNBC. 0.74
00:36:01.000 She's a colleague of AOC talking about people who are trying to desensitize the American people to the rule of law, play cut 12.
00:36:09.000 That these are individuals who are trying to desensitize the American people to the rule of law.
00:36:16.000 Two rules.
00:36:17.000 That they are outside of the realm of rules.
00:36:20.000 Basically, the Republicans are now trying to push for the defunding and the dismantling of our rule of law at the federal level.
00:36:30.000 So Stacey Plaskett goes on MSNBC and talking about the dismantling of the rule of law on the federal level.
00:36:39.000 So interesting. 0.98
00:36:40.000 They're the ones that project that.
00:36:44.000 When in reality, what they really want is a national police force.
00:36:47.000 It's never about defunding the police, about the nationalization of our police.
00:36:52.000 In other news, Madonna is in Tennessee banning child sex change operations by donating concert proceeds to transgender groups.
00:37:02.000 Yeah, she looks totally stable.
00:37:04.000 Look, just put that picture that we have there in the chat.
00:37:08.000 Yeah, she's really, really the stable genius, Madonna.
00:37:14.000 Again, she hasn't been relevant in a long time.
00:37:16.000 Madonna accused of many other things.
00:37:18.000 I'm not going to even get into that story.
00:37:21.000 But again, let's just play this piece of tape here.
00:37:23.000 Why is this all happening?
00:37:24.000 Why are Republican states passing bills to prevent the mutilation of children?
00:37:31.000 Remember Boston Children's Hospital saying patients young as two or three have come into their hospital?
00:37:36.000 People should be arrested for this.
00:37:38.000 Play cut 23.
00:37:40.000 So most of the patients that we have in the GEMS clinic actually know their gender, usually around the age of puberty.
00:37:46.000 But a good portion of children do know as early as seemingly from the womb.
00:37:50.000 And they will usually express their gender identity as very young children.
00:37:53.000 Some, as soon as they can talk, they might say phrases such as, I'm a girl, or I'm a boy, or I'm going to be a woman or I'm going to be a mom.
00:38:01.000 Kids know very, very early.
00:38:03.000 So in the GEMS clinic, we see a variety of young children all the way down to ages two and three and usually up to the ages of nine.
00:38:11.000 These clinics should be shut down completely, totally, and categorically.
00:38:15.000 And finally, Republicans are standing up. 0.99
00:38:17.000 Madonna, you want to get Madonna fired up? 1.00
00:38:20.000 She wants to blow up the White House or she wants to defend a nine-year-old to be able to chemically castrate themselves.
00:38:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:38:28.000 Email us your thoughts.
00:38:28.000 It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:38:31.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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