00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Riley Gaines joins us and Jordan Schachtel to talk about women's sports Ukraine and then we do a little riff on AOC at the end of the program.
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00:00:30.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:38.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:33.000It was a whole new way of looking at sports.
00:01:37.000It was not just the top 10, but the not top 10, which by the way, if my memory serves me correctly, they got rid of the not top 10 because of Mark Sanchez's or Sanchez butt fumble that happened on thing.
00:01:48.000I think he just, it was like six months of Mark Sanchez with the butt fumble, and they had to get rid of it.
00:02:08.000In a industry that should be outside of politics and outside of these kind of cultural trends, they've decided to lean in.
00:02:21.000And the most disgusting, one of the most disgusting chapters has just happened in the last couple of days.
00:02:28.000Joining us now is Riley Gaines, a former professional, not professional, former college athlete and swimmer who had to compete against Thomas, the man who is a cheater, and she should have probably won the national championship if it wasn't for the man.
00:04:05.000I will say, though, that I just admire Sage Sheehel, who's an ESPN reporter.
00:04:10.000She does Sports Center, I believe, and she stood up to this and she said this is wild, this is wrong.
00:04:15.000She recognizes the differences between men and women and why it's unfair and harmful for women to have men in women's sports and in our locker rooms.
00:04:43.000Well, a lot of people, obviously, even the SPN, as we've seen, universities, large organizations, the media, they like to deem Thomas as a courageous, brave woman.
00:04:56.000How, one, is Leah Thomas courageous or brave?
00:05:02.000I think Leah is selfish and showed utter disregard towards women, towards our privacy, towards our safety, towards our feelings, our fairness, our opportunities.
00:05:38.000Thomas was following the guidelines that the NCAA put in place.
00:05:42.000And so I think it's crucial to acknowledge that the NCAA is at fault here.
00:05:46.000Leah Thomas was simply following the rules that allowed this to happen, which were 100% perpetrated by the NCAA.
00:05:54.000They forced us to participate in Leah Thomas' fetish, which included it has now come out that Leah Thomas is an AGP, which means you are sexually aroused by dressing as a woman.
00:06:04.000And the NCAA put us in a locker room with someone who gets off on that.
00:07:38.000These liberals who, of course, will die on this hill of being able to define a woman, they see what's at stake here.
00:07:46.000They see how they're trying to eradicate women at the systemic level.
00:07:50.000And so I have had an overwhelming amount of support from female athletes, from parents, from medical professionals, from coaches, people within the NCAA.
00:07:59.000There's so much support, which shows me that we are the overwhelming majority in this topic, which begs the question, okay, then why are we catering to the minority?
00:08:10.000Why are we sacrificing 51% of the population at the expense of half a percent of the population?
00:08:17.000I don't know the exact statistic, but I can't imagine the trans community makes up more than half a percent of the population.
00:09:19.000I'm sure some people would be happier if you could walk into women's locker rooms and be like a weird creep, but it would be wrong.
00:09:28.000But unfortunately, post-1960s liberalism and leftism and the postmodern construct is your individual happiness matters more than societal norms, things that govern fairness.
00:09:39.000Their idea of justice is their own individual, their own individual quote-unquote pleasure or happiness.
00:09:47.000I think it's incredibly ironic that Thomas says that he does this for happiness because playing a Division I sport, especially at the national level where you're competing for that top spot in the country, never once did swimming ask me if I was happy.
00:10:20.000Riley, I want to talk about the other examples of men that are stealing championships right now.
00:10:25.000It's happening across the country, and our society is letting it happen.
00:10:30.000And our men who have basically become feminized versions of an infant just kind of sit and like, well, I guess that's unfair.
00:10:38.000So, Riley, I really enjoy your Twitter feed because you update the world and me on how men are continually cheating and stealing championships from women.
00:10:49.000There was one recently, there was a track championship.
00:11:09.000But this is a male who competed as a male and finished at the bottom every single time, who has now transitioned to a woman and helped his team win the state track and field championship.
00:11:24.000When he was doing an interview, and when the interviewer asked him, you know, what do you have to say about the people who are in opposition of you competing?
00:11:36.000Which is exactly why I consider Leah Thomas also a narcissist.
00:11:41.000These people want the world to stop for their own benefit and not thinking about anyone else's feelings, anyone else's safety, anyone else's fairness, their privacy, and definitely not the integrity of sports.
00:11:54.000If you look at psychology, women tend to be more agreeable and men tend to be disagreeable.
00:11:59.000So I look at these pictures of these young ladies that are taking pictures with these cheats afterwards.
00:12:05.000And it's just not up to, I mean, they just are less likely to say there's anything wrong with it.
00:12:09.000But honestly, what should have happened is the cheat should have just ran and everyone else should have just had their just boycotted it, just sat down.
00:12:18.000Would have been made nationwide headlines.
00:12:20.000Why is it that women are so, I mean, again, it's not a fair question.
00:12:24.000It just really bothers me because it's not as if angry women is anything we're new to, right?
00:12:29.000I mean, angry women come to my events all the time.
00:12:31.000They scream at conservatives, they scream at their husbands, they scream at Donald Trump.
00:12:35.000Why are women not angry at men stealing their championships?
00:12:45.000They want to be seen as welcoming and accepting and tolerant and all of those things, but they just haven't realized yet it is not kind to allow a man into a woman's space.
00:12:57.000It is not kind for me, a 22-year-old, to turn around and see another 22-year-old drop his pants, fully exposed with male genitalia, watching other women undress.
00:14:37.000They don't want to be the ones responsible for anything.
00:14:40.000So what they're trying to do is phase out and leave it up to sports-specific organizations like World Athletics, who has just now said that if you've gone through puberty as a male, you will not compete with the women.
00:14:51.000So they're looking to phase out the NCAA is.
00:14:55.000I just, it's remarkable to me, and it's happening all around us.
00:15:49.000Maybe we should start protesting them, obviously peacefully, but we should call Dylan Mulvaney a creepy dude who is appropriating womenhood.
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00:18:58.000So this started a long time ago, but the easiest way to catch up to speed, basically, is that the New York Times dropped a pretty critical story of what was going on with all these volunteers going to Ukraine and the fact that they raised all this money for these war efforts through PayPal, through Venmo.
00:19:19.000And by the way, anyone listening, please do not, when someone tries to raise funds through these sketchy mediums without a nonprofit organization, don't give them money.
00:19:29.000Don't send it to their PayPal address.
00:19:32.000But anyway, what happened was that this organization called Ripley's Heroes, a Ukrainian, a pro-Ukraine organization that was supposedly a nonprofit raising funds to buy a variety of goods and services to supposedly support the war effort.
00:19:51.000And what they found was that this organization is now under federal investigation, but they were also moving money from the nonprofit into the for-profit.
00:20:02.000I mean, Charlie, you're very familiar with the strict regulations.
00:20:40.000And I was kind of like browsing through social media, doing some open source research, and I found that our good friend Adam Kinzinger was actually on the board of advisors of this organization that is now under federal investigation.
00:20:56.000Interestingly, the New York Times did not mention that in their piece, but he was this premier board member who was helping to raise money for this organization that reportedly raised millions of dollars.
00:21:10.000You know, they were supposed to be buying night vision goggles for Ukrainian troops.
00:21:15.000They were supposed to be financing some of the war effort.
00:21:19.000And it seemed that the people behind this organization were not, they couldn't show any evidence that these night vision goggles were arriving, these jeeps and all this other stuff.
00:21:30.000So it seems that they were engaged in a giant fraud scheme.
00:21:36.000And it seems that this is kind of the person who's been attracted to travel over there.
00:21:42.000Ukraine is notorious for its corruption.
00:21:45.000And they kind of just have been even like these big tech companies like PayPal and Venmo have been setting up these special mechanisms for them to get funding.
00:21:56.000And that's a whole nother angle of the story that hasn't really been explored: is that these big tech organizations that are targeting conservatives because of what you believe in, they're happy to assist with these Ukraine money laundering operations where there's really no checks and balances on anything.
00:22:13.000But Kinzinger is seemingly heavily involved.
00:22:18.000If you go on his Twitter account, he's been promoting the heck out of this organization to play, to steel man the Kinsinger argument.
00:22:29.000I guess you could say that he is notoriously naive about everything, which is true.
00:22:34.000This is the man who thought that the ghost of Kiev was a real fighter pilot that was shooting down all of these Russian fighter jets.
00:22:42.000And he's basically bought into every hoax.
00:22:45.000He does not see well through the fog of war.
00:22:48.000So I suppose you can make an argument that he was very naive, but he's involved with what appears to be a criminal organization.
00:22:54.000Yeah, so let me ask you, though, did he make any money off of this?
00:23:01.000It appears that he has more so a volunteer.
00:23:06.000He is an official member of the board of advisors, but I think they made it pretty clear that he wasn't going to be taking money.
00:23:14.000But, you know, there's other ways to end up on the receiving end of this stuff.
00:23:20.000When he provided what I think is the most important, his stamp of approval.
00:23:25.000This is a guy, as you recall, that was on the January 6th committee.
00:23:29.000Supposed to be all about oversight, transparency, rule of law.
00:23:33.000And meanwhile, he's shuttling funds that were virtually untraceable.
00:23:40.000I think that PayPal would know a lot if they were to come forward about this into this Eastern European money laundering mechanism.
00:23:49.000Yeah, so how much money has gone through this company?
00:23:52.000Reportedly, millions of dollars in donations.
00:23:55.000And in the New York Times piece, the reporters asked these executives at this organization called Ripley's Heroes, which is the one that's under investigation, if they could provide receipts for the donations.
00:24:09.000And it was just all this like off-the-book stuff.
00:24:13.000And the reporters found that, you know, some of the money was going to this company, the for-profit company called Iron Horse, while some of it was just sitting in a bank account.
00:24:50.000And again, this is the important of having transparency in governance, both on an executive, private level, but also when you're dealing with another country.
00:25:03.000And this seems to be like a micro example of a macro problem of what's going on in Ukraine.
00:25:09.000You have this, we've, the United States has allocated over $100 billion to this country.
00:25:15.000We're shipping all these weapons to them.
00:25:17.000And in my previous reporting, like it's just so what you find is so absurd.
00:25:22.000Like the Ukrainian military officials are writing paper receipts and then they're they're just like giving them to U.S. military officials and being like, okay, see, we got this.
00:25:51.000I mean, we thought this was a dumb idea from the beginning.
00:25:54.000I think that viewpoint is actually growing.
00:25:56.000The great Victor Davis Hansen, who I admire and love his writings, he was definitely probably more in the camp of intervention, but prudent intervention.
00:26:07.000And VDH came out with a powerful piece.
00:26:09.000I'm going to find it in just a second here, where he's basically saying, what does success look like?
00:26:43.000What are you seeing in conservative circles?
00:26:47.000There definitely does seem to be movement.
00:26:49.000I think, Charlie, you and I were some of the early critics of we were just asking some basic questions about what the heck is going on here.
00:26:56.000You're called Kremlin agents for that.
00:26:58.000Yeah, but the label doesn't seem to have much sticking power because there are some very influential people, VDH, one of our great thinkers.
00:27:09.000But there still are a lot of conservative heavyweights, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, who remain adamantly supportive of this.
00:27:19.000And I have to respectfully disagree with their position, which I think is becoming more and more unpopular.
00:27:25.000I mean, you've seen this with both Trump and DeSantis are very skeptical about increased U.S. involvement, specifically because of the fact that the Europeans are slacking so much and we're providing so much.
00:27:39.000We already provide an umbrella defense organization for their entire continent.
00:27:44.000And now we need to fund this war effort.
00:27:46.000And by the way, you know, Ukraine's borders are 5,000 miles away from the United States.
00:27:51.000It just boggles the mind when someone tells me that we need to fight them over there so they don't come over here.
00:28:02.000We haven't had the funeral and said the eulogy to that just vapid, stupid talking point.
00:28:10.000I wish we had, but it seems that the Washington, D.C. beltway, as you well know, is just inundated with these people that can't get rid of this globalist, whatever you want to call it, neoliberal, neoconservative, these ideas about projecting insane amounts of imperial power overseas.
00:28:30.000And of course, it comes back to harm American citizens.
00:28:33.000No American benefits from throwing hundreds of billions of dollars into this war.
00:28:38.000In fact, it's just hurting everyone with the skyrocketing inflation and such.
00:28:42.000So VDH writes, I mean, it's just one question after the other.
00:28:46.000He would not have written this article a year ago.
00:28:49.000I mean, I listened to a lot of VDH a year ago.
00:28:51.000He was, you know, gotta deter, hold the Western order.
00:28:55.000Now VDH is asking a question of why were we mostly silent when an appeasing Joe Biden begged Vladimir Putin to spare at least some U.S. targets on his otherwise extensive anti-American cyber war hit list?
00:29:05.000Why are we not so eager for confrontation when Putin earlier acquired eastern Ukraine borderlands and Crimean 14 in the first place under Obama?
00:29:13.000Or why so subdued when the United States in 1516 refused to sell Ukraine offensive weapons?
00:29:18.000Why does the United States discount the serial and ascending nuclear threats from Russia, but remain careful not to antagonize China?
00:29:25.000VDH continues by saying, why is the administration so quiet but a likely leak of an engineered deadly COVID-19 virus from a Chinese virology lab that killed a million Americans?
00:29:35.000These are Ukraine war-related questions that never seem to be answered, but should be as the carnage rises and the nuclear threshold falls.
00:29:46.000U.S. foreign policymakers are playing a very dangerous game right now.
00:29:50.000And I completely agree with all VDH's sentiments.
00:29:53.000And to add to that, we have to remember that the Nord Stream pipeline bombing, all of the evidence seems to point in the direction that it was authorized by our, either our Biden administration or our deep, unaccountable deep state.
00:30:09.000And when we're talking about two powers with thousands and thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons, it is best for everyone involved to try to calm everything down, to try to bring people to the negotiating table.
00:30:24.000And I think to their credit, the two frontrunners in the presidential race, Trump and DeSantis, really might really understand that as opposed to, you know, you have these Nikki Haleys, you have these Mike Pompeos that want to see them invade the world and fight the world.
00:30:41.000So Jordan, check out his substack, Jordan Schochtl, the dossier.
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00:34:19.000Many of these disgusting and insinuating attacks on trans and LGBT people are actually projections of what predatory cisgender and often straight men do when left alone in the presence of women or sometimes horribly children.
00:34:34.000So instead of getting you to challenge the patriarchy, they're trying to get you to challenge the very gender expressiveness that challenges patriarchy.
00:34:43.000Don't get it twisted, because a lot of people attacking drag are projecting.
00:37:40.000So most of the patients that we have in the GEMS clinic actually know their gender, usually around the age of puberty.
00:37:46.000But a good portion of children do know as early as seemingly from the womb.
00:37:50.000And they will usually express their gender identity as very young children.
00:37:53.000Some, as soon as they can talk, they might say phrases such as, I'm a girl, or I'm a boy, or I'm going to be a woman or I'm going to be a mom.