The Charlie Kirk Show - September 17, 2022


Two Races Republicans Can't Afford to Lose if We Want to Save the Red Wave — with Sen. Ron Johnson & Doug Mastriano


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Paul Sperry from Real Clear Investigations joins us and Ron Johnson joins us to talk about his campaign for re-election in Wisconsin and why he's worthy of your support. Ron Johnson is a courageous, bold and brave United States Senator who is running against a radical leftist hiding in sheep s clothing.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, Tan the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Paul Sperry from Real Clear Investigations joins us.
00:00:04.000 And one of my favorite senators, Senator Ron Johnson, joins us, who is worthy of your support, RonJohnsonforsenate.com.
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00:01:23.000 There's a list of important races this year, but at the top of that list is what's happening in Wisconsin.
00:01:30.000 Senator Ron Johnson, who is a fabulous United States senator, is courageous and bold and brave and fights for the right issues, is in a very contentious reelection fight right now in Wisconsin, and he needs all of our support.
00:01:43.000 The website to support him directly, because people always ask, is ronjohnsonforsenate.com.
00:01:48.000 We're going there this weekend with Turning Point Action with Governor DeSantis in Green Bay.
00:01:53.000 If you guys want to attend, it's tpaction.com slash DeSantis.
00:01:57.000 And joining us right now is Senator Ron Johnson.
00:02:00.000 Senator, welcome back to the program.
00:02:02.000 Hello, Charlie.
00:02:02.000 First of all, congratulations on the birth of your daughter.
00:02:05.000 Oh, thank you.
00:02:05.000 Life-changing event, huh?
00:02:07.000 Amen.
00:02:08.000 It changes everything.
00:02:09.000 Very positive.
00:02:10.000 Positive life-changing event.
00:02:12.000 Thank you.
00:02:12.000 Thank you.
00:02:13.000 Congratulations.
00:02:14.000 Appreciate that, Senator.
00:02:15.000 And it gives me a whole nother level of what I am fighting for.
00:02:18.000 And everyone tells you ahead of time, boy, it's going to change your life.
00:02:21.000 And that is an understatement.
00:02:23.000 When you really feel it, it's beyond reason and comprehension.
00:02:27.000 So, Senator, give us an update with your race here.
00:02:29.000 You're running against a very radical candidate who has said some wild stuff.
00:02:34.000 Talk about your race, please.
00:02:37.000 I'm running against a radical leftist hiding in sheep's clothing, which is what they're all trying to do here.
00:02:43.000 But he's on record saying, as you say, some pretty outlandish things.
00:02:47.000 He thinks the founding of America was awful.
00:02:49.000 He's implied that our national parks are racist.
00:02:53.000 He's the guy that authored the bill in the state assembly didn't pass, but he supports this, allowing criminals out with no bail.
00:03:01.000 He's part of the Evers Barnes administration.
00:03:04.000 Their goal was to release 50% of Wisconsin's prisoners.
00:03:10.000 He says that reducing the prison population is sexy.
00:03:15.000 And so they haven't quite got to 50.
00:03:18.000 They've gone to 15%.
00:03:21.000 884 individuals.
00:03:24.000 44 of those were child rapists.
00:03:27.000 270 were criminals that either committed and they mainly committed or attempted murder.
00:03:34.000 You have to also recognize the fact that it's the Longshot Christmas Parade massacre.
00:03:39.000 The perpetrator there was let out on low bail.
00:03:42.000 And he's doubled down on these radical ideas.
00:03:44.000 So he's a dangerous person if you put him in public office in the United States Senate.
00:03:50.000 And so I'm working my tail off.
00:03:52.000 The advantage I have here, Charlie, is all we have to do is tell the truth about him.
00:03:56.000 We obviously are getting no help from the mainstream media who, just like Joe Biden, they're covering up for him.
00:04:01.000 He's hiding, maybe not in a basement, but he's not answering questions from the media.
00:04:06.000 But, you know, I finally got him as an opponent mid-August.
00:04:10.000 So now we are getting the truth out.
00:04:12.000 And I think the change in the polls was pretty remarkable.
00:04:14.000 I'm taking nothing for granted, but I did appreciate the news on Wednesday that the NRSC poll had me four points up.
00:04:23.000 The Marquette poll even remarkably had me one point up, but it's a dog fight.
00:04:27.000 It's dead even.
00:04:28.000 I will need help and support.
00:04:29.000 Ron Johnson from Senate.com.
00:04:31.000 Now's not the time to relax at all, and I'm not going to because we have to keep this radical leftist out of the United States Senate.
00:04:38.000 Look, Senator Johnson is at the top of my list of someone who has done what he said he was going to do, and he campaigns hard.
00:04:44.000 He represents the people of Wisconsin.
00:04:46.000 He has been on the leading charge of all the important fights in Washington, D.C. Senator, can you talk about how your opponent will likely vote to lift the filibuster?
00:04:54.000 Will be just another vote for what we have seen of this radical agenda.
00:04:58.000 87,000 new IRS agents.
00:05:00.000 I think it's important for people to realize that, you know, these candidates, they sometimes disguise their beliefs and all of that.
00:05:06.000 But if elected, he will just be another Schumer puppet for Green New Deal, electoral college abolition, adding new states.
00:05:13.000 Talk about how critical it is that we hold this Senate race.
00:05:17.000 And he's receiving a lot of outside money, isn't he?
00:05:21.000 Oh, you know, they've spent at least $65 million.
00:05:24.000 The left hates dark money until they're using it to lie about somebody, to assassinate somebody's character.
00:05:30.000 But no, it's not likely.
00:05:31.000 He will certainly vote to end the filibuster.
00:05:35.000 That's one of his primary campaign planks.
00:05:37.000 That's how radical this guy is.
00:05:40.000 So, no, he will certainly do that.
00:05:42.000 And, of course, he supports all of Biden's disastrous policies.
00:05:46.000 Open borders.
00:05:47.000 He thinks illegal immigrants should get driver's licenses.
00:05:51.000 They should get in-state tuition here in Wisconsin.
00:05:54.000 He likes all the spending that has sparked four-year high inflation.
00:05:58.000 He supports the Green New Deal.
00:06:00.000 He supports Medicare for all, which Charlie, you know, that's Medicare for none.
00:06:03.000 That's right.
00:06:04.000 It abolishes Medicare.
00:06:06.000 It abolishes, eliminates all private health care, and even doubling your taxes when paid for it.
00:06:12.000 So this is, he supports all these radical ideas.
00:06:16.000 He's, of course, endorsed by AOC and by Bernie Sanders and by Elizabeth Warren, the radical leftists in Washington, D.C.
00:06:23.000 So, again, we know who he is, but the media's not telling us, and he's not telling us either.
00:06:29.000 He's not being honest.
00:06:30.000 He runs these little cutesy ads, makes them look just nice and fuzzy and warm and just moderate.
00:06:35.000 He's no moderate.
00:06:36.000 He's a radical leftist.
00:06:37.000 That's well said.
00:06:38.000 It's Ron Johnson for Senate.com.
00:06:40.000 Senator, can you talk about this unprecedented expansion of IRS agents, 87,000 new IRS agents that will assuredly be deployed on middle-class workers in Wisconsin?
00:06:49.000 One of the things that I think makes you such an effective senator is you spent 30 years in the private sector.
00:06:54.000 You built a business in manufacturing.
00:06:56.000 You ran in what was once considered to be a long shot campaign.
00:06:59.000 In fact, twice you've upended the polls and you've really built a name for yourself in Wisconsin that is considerable.
00:07:05.000 But again, I don't know the personal biography of your opponent, but I can't imagine he spent 30 years in the private sector actually working with his hands and building something of consequence.
00:07:13.000 Talk about the 87,000 new IRS agents and then talk a little about your biography and contrast that with probably the lack of one from your opponent.
00:07:22.000 Well, the good news, if we do gain control over the Senate and the House, I think we can pass a standalone bill to rescind that with 87,000 IRS agents.
00:07:32.000 And I'd have a hard time thinking Democrats would vote against that.
00:07:35.000 I think they'd realize at that point in time there's a huge political blunder.
00:07:39.000 So that's something we actually can reverse.
00:07:41.000 In terms of comparison, there is no comparison.
00:07:43.000 I don't think he ever had a job in the private sector.
00:07:46.000 He might have had a part-time job or so.
00:07:48.000 He's been a political activist ever since he left college.
00:07:51.000 Why did about the fact that he got a diploma?
00:07:53.000 Magically, he ended up getting one.
00:07:54.000 By the way, his degree is in communications specializing in performance.
00:07:59.000 So as a performer, he's probably pretty good performer.
00:08:02.000 In politics, I guess you have to sell a lot.
00:08:04.000 He's probably pretty good at that.
00:08:06.000 He is good at that.
00:08:07.000 Versus me, I lived a full life.
00:08:10.000 I worked 40 years in the private sector, got my first tax paying job at the age of 15, started working full-time at the age of 17, worked full-time going through college, didn't have debt, ended up with $7,000 in the bank.
00:08:22.000 I started a manufacturing plant, ran it for 30 years.
00:08:25.000 I understand it.
00:08:26.000 We didn't export jobs to China.
00:08:28.000 We exported plastic to China.
00:08:31.000 And so, you know, I am, I think, what I certainly want in an elected official, somebody who has led a full life, has experience in the private sector, so they understand it, they have sympathy for it, and then step up the plate and offer yourself for public services.
00:08:47.000 It's why I'm the guy in public and tax reform where we were only going to cut taxes for the 5% of American businesses, the C-Corps. 0.83
00:08:55.000 I'm the guy that raised my hand and dug my heels and said, no, you've got to make sure that the other 95%. 0.99
00:09:02.000 And of course, that's being used against me.
00:09:04.000 Like, it's kind of special deal.
00:09:05.000 No, 20 million tax filers took advantage of my tax cut.
00:09:09.000 So many have come up to me and said, Senator, without your tax cut, I would not have survived the pandemic.
00:09:14.000 I championed right to try, which is saving people's lives even under COVID.
00:09:19.000 And we've got a great program in inner city Milwaukee called the Joseph Project, which is transforming people's lives by getting them good-paying jobs in manufacturing in the private sector.
00:09:29.000 So, no, there's no comparison.
00:09:31.000 He's a political activist.
00:09:32.000 That's all he's ever done.
00:09:34.000 I know his mom worked, his dad worked, that's great.
00:09:37.000 But other than working in campaigns and working for a mayor's office, I don't think he ever had a job in the private sector or maybe a short part-time one.
00:09:47.000 Yeah, and so I've been misquoted when I said the guys like Obama and some people, so I always compliment him.
00:09:52.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:09:54.000 It's someone who is very slick maybe and runs these ads, but doesn't actually do anything and won't represent the people of Wisconsin.
00:10:01.000 I have so much faith in the good people of Wisconsin.
00:10:03.000 They are decent, hardworking people.
00:10:05.000 Senator, you're running a fabulous campaign.
00:10:08.000 We're going to see you this Sunday in Green Bay.
00:10:09.000 People can check it out.
00:10:10.000 tpaction.com slash DeSantis.
00:10:13.000 And I just want to make a plea.
00:10:15.000 I don't do this often.
00:10:16.000 Ron Johnsonforsenate.com.
00:10:18.000 Senator Johnson fights for all of you, but especially the great people of Wisconsin.
00:10:22.000 Senator, thank you for your time.
00:10:23.000 We're behind you, and we'll see you Sunday.
00:10:25.000 Yeah, see you Sunday.
00:10:26.000 Looking forward to it.
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00:11:34.000 Keep the pressure on.
00:11:35.000 We're starting to see a little bit of a change here, especially those of us that look at the news and look at the polling, looking at the trends day to day today.
00:11:43.000 You can start to see a boiling point being reached.
00:11:46.000 And we had some very serious concerns about a red wave about a month or two ago when Democrats seemed to have a surge in support.
00:11:52.000 A lot of their summer fundraising went extremely well, and Dobbs was helpful to them in the moment.
00:11:59.000 But it seems as if Election Day being in November 8th, they might have gotten too hot too quick.
00:12:06.000 Inflation, crime, immigration, which, of course, DeSantis and Abbott are beautifully highlighting, all these things together, and we're starting to see our candidates increasingly get on message.
00:12:17.000 So let me kind of complete the plug for Senator Johnson before I go into kind of this deeper point of how I think our candidates are getting on message and Democrats are starting to notice it.
00:12:27.000 If you have any doubts about Senator Johnson, let me highlight two things.
00:12:31.000 Number one, Senator Johnson is leading the charge and has been leading the charge on uncovering all the Biden corruption.
00:12:41.000 He has been the guy looking into all the barisma stuff.
00:12:44.000 Johnson has been on an island on so much of this stuff.
00:12:47.000 That's number one.
00:12:48.000 Number two, the thing that really showed me who Senator Johnson was was just how he was willing to ask questions and try to draw facts and data together and host an elite group of scientists and doctors to find out what was going on with the vaccine, why are we mandating it, what other treatments are available for the Chinese coronavirus?
00:13:09.000 Dr. Malone, Pierre Corey, Dr. McCullough, that was Senator Ron Johnson.
00:13:14.000 So if that issue means something to you, medical totalitarianism, the fusion of corporate interests with government interests, Rand Paul, who's also in cycle, but he's going to win, and Senator Ron Johnson were easily the two most courageous senators on that issue, period.
00:13:34.000 And what really gave me just a conviction in my spirit to help Senator Johnson however I can is that Senator Johnson was in the midst of a very difficult race.
00:13:47.000 He still is.
00:13:48.000 He knew that it was going to be well funded, and he still leaned in and hosted Dr. Malone, Dr. McCullough, asked questions about mRNA technology.
00:13:56.000 Again, just asking questions, but hosting that venue in the building of the United States Senate.
00:14:01.000 That's a big deal.
00:14:02.000 Senator Johnson very well could have been like, guys, can we do this after the election?
00:14:06.000 But he leaned in.
00:14:09.000 That means a lot.
00:14:10.000 That should really tell you who Senator Johnson is.
00:14:12.000 He did not have to do that.
00:14:14.000 And if you ask any of the A-team, you ask Pierre Corey, you ask Dr. Malone, you say, hey, who was the most helpful legislative contact that you had in the federal government?
00:14:24.000 It was Senator Ron Johnson, period.
00:14:27.000 He's a fabulous man.
00:14:29.000 I've known him casually here and there, meaning he spoke at our first turning point event in Madison back in 2013.
00:14:34.000 He's an awesome senator.
00:14:35.000 100% endorsement.
00:14:36.000 We got to get him across the finish line.
00:14:38.000 How many Republicans just kind of turned a blind eye on all that medical totalitarianism and tyranny?
00:14:43.000 How many?
00:14:44.000 It's a long list.
00:14:46.000 Senator Johnson leaned in with courage and with clarity, and he wanted to get to the truth.
00:14:50.000 So that's Ron Johnson for Senate.com.
00:14:54.000 If you guys can help, obviously.
00:14:56.000 It's very important.
00:14:58.000 Okay.
00:15:00.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:15:02.000 Somebody did say, though, Charlie, I watched your show.
00:15:04.000 I didn't like his talking points on his opponent in the race.
00:15:08.000 I wish Republicans would stop personal assassinations with Democrats are known for it.
00:15:11.000 I disagree respectfully, Corey.
00:15:13.000 Thank you for your email.
00:15:15.000 We have to attack these candidates.
00:15:17.000 You got to reveal them.
00:15:18.000 You've got to be merciless in how you do it.
00:15:20.000 It's politics.
00:15:21.000 Negative works.
00:15:23.000 You have to be negative.
00:15:25.000 I don't like living in that environment.
00:15:26.000 It's the way it works. 0.88
00:15:27.000 You got to go negative against your candidates, especially when you're running up against crazy people like Mandela Barnes.
00:15:34.000 Okay, Democrats are starting to realize that things are starting to trend differently.
00:15:38.000 We got to keep the pressure on.
00:15:40.000 We keep this pressure on.
00:15:41.000 We could have a huge red wave, everybody.
00:15:43.000 We could win in Pennsylvania.
00:15:44.000 We could win in Wisconsin.
00:15:45.000 We could win in Georgia.
00:15:46.000 We could win in Arizona.
00:15:47.000 We could win in Nevada with Adam Laxalt.
00:15:51.000 We could win in Colorado with Joe O'Day.
00:15:54.000 I'm starting to see the things come in place.
00:15:56.000 I'm starting to see money finally being raised.
00:15:58.000 I'm starting to see candidates get on message.
00:16:01.000 Let's play Cut 61.
00:16:02.000 Meet the Press agrees. 1.00
00:16:04.000 For example, one of our favorite candidates in the country, Carrie Lake, is actually stronger than they thought. 0.98
00:16:08.000 Play Cut 61.
00:16:10.000 But I came away believing Mark Kelly is stronger than I thought.
00:16:14.000 And so is Kerry Lake.
00:16:15.000 Being on television, as she, Carrie Lake, being a former TV anchor for, what was it, 20 years?
00:16:22.000 There is a sense from voters that I know this person and whatever is being said about them and attack ads, et cetera.
00:16:29.000 Well, maybe that's true, but maybe it's just politics.
00:16:31.000 She can't be like that because she's been in my living room for the last 20 years. 0.99
00:16:35.000 So she has a benefit there. 0.98
00:16:37.000 So you watch that in a vacuum and you say, well, Kerry Lake has to be down 10.
00:16:40.000 And you're right.
00:16:41.000 And you see the polls and it's neck and neck.
00:16:43.000 And everybody cinema is a political talent.
00:16:44.000 I'll give her that. 1.00
00:16:45.000 But Katie Hobbs is not a good candidate. 1.00
00:16:49.000 She's a terrible candidate. 1.00
00:16:50.000 By the way, who thinks that Kerry Lake should be down 10? 0.99
00:16:53.000 Oh, if you live in an all-white Virginia suburban neighborhood and don't live in Arizona, down 10? 1.00
00:17:00.000 Carrie Lake's super popular. 1.00
00:17:02.000 In fact, I think Kerry Lake is going to win. 0.97
00:17:03.000 I think Blake Master is going to win.
00:17:04.000 I think Laxalt will win.
00:17:05.000 Buckle up.
00:17:06.000 And I'm starting to see the trends get better, but it's not done yet.
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00:18:11.000 He does a phenomenal job.
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00:18:14.000 The work he is doing is important.
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00:18:17.000 It's incredible what he's able to root out and what he is able to discover.
00:18:24.000 He works for real clear politics.
00:18:27.000 He does a fabulous job.
00:18:28.000 And I think all of you have seen his work in one way or the other.
00:18:32.000 And it's Paul Sperry, and he joins us right now.
00:18:35.000 Paul, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:18:37.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me on.
00:18:39.000 First, I want to compliment you again on your fabulous work.
00:18:42.000 I read it very frequently, and it's very thorough.
00:18:45.000 And so let's start with this story here, which I think is really important, is kind of unpacking this Trump-Hillary double standard for her and how the FBI helped obstruct that investigation and how they're going after Donald Trump.
00:19:00.000 Walk us through this.
00:19:02.000 Yeah, so we found that the same FBI division investigating Trump for possible emphasis, possible obstruction at Mar-a-Lago, let Hillary off the hook despite solid evidence that she and her team obstructed investigators in 2016.
00:19:20.000 Back when they were trying to recover subpoenaed emails that she had deleted, the FBI even let the custodian of her emails skate from prosecution, even though it repeatedly lied to agents about destroying all of the email evidence, including after they gave him immunity.
00:19:38.000 Yeah, and so I suppose, I mean, the question that everyone then has is, why is it that the Department of Justice is able to get away with this or the FBI just kind of monitors themselves?
00:19:50.000 Has anyone been fired from this?
00:19:52.000 Are these same people who are now going after the Mar-a-Lago and raiding Mar-a-Lago?
00:19:58.000 They're the same people that then derailed the Hillary Clinton investigation, right?
00:20:02.000 Yeah, the same team, counterintelligence team that whitewashed.
00:20:07.000 Both of these, by the way, were called espionage investigations, and they were sensitive investigative matters, Sims, and they were closely, they're now both closely held within headquarters in Washington.
00:20:24.000 There's one person that worked at, it was code-named the Hillary investigation of her emails and her homebrew server.
00:20:34.000 It was codenamed mid-year exam, the investigation.
00:20:36.000 But, anyways, he was the senior lawyer, the attorney on that case, counterintelligence division.
00:20:43.000 His name was Kevin Kleinsmith.
00:20:45.000 Well, Kevin Kleinsmith is no longer with the FBI.
00:20:48.000 He's been convicted of doctoring evidence that was used to obtain a wiretap warrant under the FISA on one of Trump's advisors.
00:21:00.000 But Klein Smith, a lot of people don't realize this, he was instrumental in that whitewash of Hillary's case.
00:21:06.000 He was a very biased Trump, and he was a big Clinton supporter.
00:21:12.000 He's gone, but a lot of the others, including analysts that worked in that case, are still there, and they're involved in this Mar-a-Lago investigation.
00:21:20.000 So, I mean, look, it's really important we don't forget this stuff.
00:21:24.000 And I'll be very honest, Paul, your reporting illuminates my cynicism towards this because I read it and it confirms what I believe.
00:21:35.000 But I say, of course, obviously, the FBI and the DOJ is on the side of the regime.
00:21:41.000 So blatant and such flagrant crimes committed by Hillary Clinton with no oversight at all whatsoever in the FBI or the DOJ.
00:21:50.000 And so can you give our listeners an update?
00:21:52.000 And also, this would be helpful for me because I've been so into other stories here.
00:21:56.000 What really is the latest right now with the Special Master, the raid on Mar-a-Lago?
00:22:02.000 What is the latest news out of that story?
00:22:06.000 Well, the main headline is because she approved the Special Master to sort through all the boxes of documents and personal items that they seized from Trump's personal residence.
00:22:24.000 F to go through, figure out what is personal, what is privileged, attorney-client privilege, other privilege, and exactly what is classified or is it classified?
00:22:39.000 Are those documents that had classified markings allegedly?
00:22:43.000 Are they still classified?
00:22:45.000 Because things can fall out of classification.
00:22:47.000 Did Trump declassify them?
00:22:50.000 That's what the special master is going to go through.
00:22:53.000 He's been named.
00:22:56.000 He's a judge out of New York.
00:22:59.000 And the bigger headline is that now Attorney General Merrick Garland can, you know, this investigation of the mishandling of supposed classified information is ground to a halt.
00:23:14.000 He cannot move forward.
00:23:15.000 He cannot use any of that so-called evidence in furtherance of that part of the investigation.
00:23:23.000 However, this is what people don't understand, is that what they're really drilling down on, if Trump is in any legal jeopardy, it's about it and his lawyers specifically, the custodian of his records down there who certified that they had turned over everything under subpoena.
00:23:43.000 That part of the investigation, which is obstruction, potential lying to agents, that can go forward by the special master.
00:23:53.000 They can put those lawyers custodian the records before the grand jury to testify.
00:23:59.000 That part of it is ongoing.
00:24:01.000 They don't need those documents necessarily to pursue that case.
00:24:06.000 And that's the aggravating factor in all this.
00:24:10.000 That's the more serious charge if they could ever bring it.
00:24:15.000 But that's what they were, that was the most serious charge in the Hillary case, and they completely gave her a pass.
00:24:23.000 I mean, the parallels between their two cases couldn't be more similar.
00:24:26.000 I mean, yet the treatment accorded them by the FBI and DOJ couldn't be more different.
00:24:32.000 Both of the cases involved the handling of government records, of course, including classified information, but both of them kept the records at their homes, in fact, stored in their basements where they were unsecure, possibly vulnerably compromised.
00:24:46.000 Although Hillary's restored electronically and potentially open to the internet and vulnerable to foreign hackers, while Trump's restored in paper form, what else?
00:24:56.000 Both of their lawyers acted as custodians of the records, and both of them face allegations of mishandling state secrets and destroying or concealing documents under subpoena and then lying about it.
00:25:07.000 Yet Hillary's team got a pass.
00:25:09.000 The whole investigation was a whitewash.
00:25:11.000 All the details are up on our site, real clear investigations in this story.
00:25:17.000 Your listeners can go to.
00:25:20.000 And instead of grand jury subpoenas, search warrants, and FBI raids, Hillary's team got immunity deals, other concessions, even sweetheart deals.
00:25:30.000 In fact, the FBI even at one point agreed to destroy evidence, in effect, obstructing their own investigation.
00:25:38.000 And, of course, you recall, Charlie, FBI Director Comey drafted an exoneration for Hillary before his agents could even interview her.
00:25:48.000 And he and his investigators could even call their investigation an investigation.
00:25:54.000 They had to call it a matter for the orders from Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
00:26:00.000 Could you even imagine Attorney General Merrick Garland ordering the FBI now to not call the Trump raid an investigation?
00:26:08.000 Hell no.
00:26:09.000 They're not pulling any punches for him.
00:26:11.000 They're putting the screws to him and even his lawyers.
00:26:14.000 Wow.
00:26:16.000 And so, I mean, it really frustrates our audience where Hillary Clinton still hasn't been held accountable for any of this.
00:26:23.000 Is it too late?
00:26:24.000 I mean, can the DOJ right this wrong?
00:26:26.000 And secondly, what is your guess?
00:26:28.000 And it's just a guess.
00:26:29.000 Do you think the DOJ is going to go after Hunter Biden anytime soon?
00:26:35.000 In Hillary's case, no, it's well beyond the statute of limitations.
00:26:40.000 It's unfortunately a dead issue.
00:26:44.000 Hunter Biden, that's a whole other story that we're working on.
00:26:53.000 That is actually, there's actually three states where that's being investigated.
00:27:01.000 And it's not just Hunter Biden.
00:27:03.000 It's his uncle Jimmy, Jimmy Biden, Joe Biden's younger brother.
00:27:13.000 But you had mentioned earlier, all this double standard, it just, I think you mentioned it, it's breeding cynicism.
00:27:22.000 And this kind of glaring double standard in how the FBI and Justice Department goes after certain politically connected or people or politicians, elected officials, it just breeds more cynicism in the public mind about how things operate in Washington.
00:27:42.000 Of course, it doesn't excuse Trump's behavior, but the point is, if you're going to investigate politicians for mishandling records and obstruction and lying, then investigate them with the same rigor and the same aggressiveness.
00:27:56.000 I mean, don't pull punches because the target is from one party and throw the book at another target because he's from the other party.
00:28:01.000 Be tough on both of them.
00:28:03.000 Treat them equally.
00:28:05.000 Treat them the same way.
00:28:06.000 That's all that people ask.
00:28:08.000 I mean, that's all the average American asks is viewing this from outside the beltway.
00:28:14.000 They just see this is the process has become so dirty.
00:28:17.000 Yeah, but didn't I have a question?
00:28:20.000 Didn't Trump have the power to declassify all these documents while he was president?
00:28:23.000 That's what I can't quite understand.
00:28:26.000 Yes, he did while he was president, not post-bunch.
00:28:30.000 I mean, he could still have them since they're declassified then.
00:28:35.000 Yeah, even if they even if he didn't do that officially, he has every right to have classified information in his home.
00:28:44.000 No, but once they're once they're declassified, they're no longer classified, right?
00:28:50.000 That's true.
00:28:52.000 But my point is, even if there's not a record of that, and he said that verbally, orally, it doesn't matter because it's not a crime.
00:29:03.000 Because right now, Bill Clinton at his Harlem office in his Chappaqua home and former President Obama at his Calamara home in D.C. and in his Kenwood home in Chicago, they have classified information there stored.
00:29:19.000 They're receiving intelligence briefings every week.
00:29:23.000 Every former president is set up with a SCIF in their homes while they're president, when they visit back at their homes, and after their presidency, they get intelligence briefings, and they have to have a SCIF where they receive those briefings.
00:29:41.000 It's a secure compartmented information facilities, SCIF.
00:29:46.000 And they are handling classified documents and information.
00:29:52.000 So it's just outrageous that they're singling Trump out.
00:29:56.000 I agree.
00:29:56.000 Paul Sperry, thank you so much for joining us and keep up the phenomenal investigation.
00:30:01.000 Thank you.
00:30:01.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:30:05.000 And here with us right now is Doug Mastriano, who we are enthusiastically behind to become the next governor of the fabulous state of Pennsylvania.
00:30:13.000 Doug, welcome back to the program.
00:30:14.000 Thanks for having me on.
00:30:16.000 I appreciate it.
00:30:16.000 Doug, we had a great event with you a couple weeks ago.
00:30:19.000 Thank you for doing that.
00:30:20.000 I think it really kind of helped the broader movement and also your campaign to become governor.
00:30:24.000 How's your race going up against a total snake?
00:30:27.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:30:29.000 A poll came out today from Trafalgar.
00:30:32.000 They have a good reputation.
00:30:33.000 They oversampled Democrats by four, and it showed me within two points of Shapiro after he spent $10 million.
00:30:39.000 Barris had a poll on Saturday, showed us even at 43 each.
00:30:42.000 Wow.
00:30:43.000 And the week before Emerson College had a poll three points apart.
00:30:47.000 And one thing we did a good rally with Senator Santorum last night outside of Philly.
00:30:52.000 And one thing he commented on was, you know, you can't measure enthusiasm in these polls.
00:30:56.000 And what we saw at the rally that you said generously sponsored and hosted, both myself and Governor DeSantis in Pittsburgh last month, was a massive crowd in the middle of a workday coming out.
00:31:06.000 These thousand plus people.
00:31:08.000 I can't remember the number.
00:31:09.000 It was incredible.
00:31:09.000 And the enthusiasm.
00:31:10.000 And Ron DeSantis and his wife Casey commented to Remy and I privately that they haven't seen so much energy in a room like that in some time.
00:31:19.000 Yeah, it's like MAGA type energy.
00:31:21.000 Your race seems to be going really well, and you got Shapiro on the ropes. 0.89
00:31:24.000 And Shapiro, he's such a fraud.
00:31:26.000 He's one of my least favorite politicians in the country.
00:31:29.000 He also was involved and covered for some of the illegal unconstitutional election changes that happened in 2020 that I believe was an unconstitutional administration of the 2020 election.
00:31:39.000 But, Doug, talk about the issue of crime, huge issue right now in Pennsylvania.
00:31:43.000 Shapiro is responsible for a lot of the rise in crime.
00:31:46.000 He's remained silent on it.
00:31:47.000 Talk about how crime is a main driver in a way that you could probably win over Democrats that otherwise would not vote for a Republican.
00:31:54.000 Thank you, Charlie, for bringing it up.
00:31:55.000 So, Josh Shapiro, my opponent, has been the attorney general for six years.
00:32:00.000 And six years as a senior law enforcement official in our state, he has failed Pennsylvania.
00:32:04.000 He's allowed Philadelphia to become the wild, wild west.
00:32:07.000 He can't run on his record.
00:32:08.000 So, instead, he's calling names just like the juvenile Democrats always do, you know, ad hominem attacks, personal attacks, you know, labeling anti-this or phobic that. 0.99
00:32:16.000 Just like, just shut up. 0.91
00:32:18.000 Talk about the issues we care about. 0.98
00:32:19.000 On his watch, Charlie, crime has gone up 37%.
00:32:23.000 On his watch, we have the fourth highest fentanyl that's in the nation.
00:32:26.000 On his watch, we have the 12th highest homicides, for example.
00:32:30.000 Philadelphia, when Josh Shapiro became the attorney general in 2016, there were 277 homicides.
00:32:36.000 Now it's annually.
00:32:37.000 Now it's pushing 600 annually. 0.98
00:32:39.000 The guy's a complete fraud and fake and failure, as you said.
00:32:42.000 Instead of doing his job and having the back of our law enforcement, instead of protecting the people of Pennsylvania, he's chasing these political ambitions and dreams that he has that are well beyond Pennsylvania. 0.97
00:32:51.000 We need to fire the guy.
00:32:52.000 He can't win.
00:32:53.000 Failure is not an option.
00:32:54.000 So we're running out of time here.
00:32:55.000 I want to do two things really quick.
00:32:56.000 I want to reinforce how important it is that Doug wins.
00:32:59.000 He could be one of America's great governors.
00:33:00.000 I mean that he's tough, he's wise, he'll do a great job.
00:33:04.000 If you live in Pennsylvania or if you have a friend that lives in Pennsylvania, you need to text interviews like this and links of Doug, who gets asked real questions to friends, because the mainstream media is going after Doug like crazy.
00:33:17.000 You got to turn yourself into a one-stop shop kind of campaigner for Doug.
00:33:22.000 Finally, Doug, 30 seconds, your website, how can people help you?
00:33:26.000 Go to Doug4Gov.com.
00:33:27.000 That's Doug, number4gov.com.
00:33:30.000 And volunteer, donate, do whatever you can.
00:33:32.000 We are the Keystone State.
00:33:33.000 Whether you're from Pennsylvania or not is irrelevant.
00:33:36.000 We can change the course of history in America.
00:33:38.000 We get Pennsylvania right on 8 November.
00:33:39.000 So thank you again for having me on, Charlie.
00:33:41.000 Yep, just keep campaigning hard.
00:33:42.000 I think you got these guys on the ropes.
00:33:44.000 I think Pennsylvania is a very, it's a beautiful state with wonderful people that I think has been abused by political leadership in the Democrat Party for far too long.
00:33:52.000 Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania, I think, shows us exactly how Pennsylvania can vote.
00:33:58.000 Keep campaigning hard, Doug.
00:33:59.000 I wish we had more time.
00:34:00.000 It's Doug4Gov.com.
00:34:01.000 You're welcome back anytime.
00:34:02.000 Thank you, Doug.
00:34:03.000 Thank you, sir.
00:34:04.000 God bless you.
00:34:05.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:07.000 That's Doug Mostriano running for governor of Pennsylvania.
00:34:09.000 Big fan.
00:34:10.000 He's phenomenal.
00:34:11.000 Ron Johnson, Doug Mostriano.
00:34:12.000 We got to support the good guys.
00:34:14.000 We got to get Doug across the finish line.
00:34:15.000 We also got to get Oz across the finish line.
00:34:17.000 We talked about that earlier this week.
00:34:19.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:20.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:23.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:34:24.000 God bless.
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