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00:01:23.000There's a list of important races this year, but at the top of that list is what's happening in Wisconsin.
00:01:30.000Senator Ron Johnson, who is a fabulous United States senator, is courageous and bold and brave and fights for the right issues, is in a very contentious reelection fight right now in Wisconsin, and he needs all of our support.
00:01:43.000The website to support him directly, because people always ask, is ronjohnsonforsenate.com.
00:01:48.000We're going there this weekend with Turning Point Action with Governor DeSantis in Green Bay.
00:01:53.000If you guys want to attend, it's tpaction.com slash DeSantis.
00:01:57.000And joining us right now is Senator Ron Johnson.
00:04:31.000Now's not the time to relax at all, and I'm not going to because we have to keep this radical leftist out of the United States Senate.
00:04:38.000Look, Senator Johnson is at the top of my list of someone who has done what he said he was going to do, and he campaigns hard.
00:04:44.000He represents the people of Wisconsin.
00:04:46.000He has been on the leading charge of all the important fights in Washington, D.C. Senator, can you talk about how your opponent will likely vote to lift the filibuster?
00:04:54.000Will be just another vote for what we have seen of this radical agenda.
00:06:40.000Senator, can you talk about this unprecedented expansion of IRS agents, 87,000 new IRS agents that will assuredly be deployed on middle-class workers in Wisconsin?
00:06:49.000One of the things that I think makes you such an effective senator is you spent 30 years in the private sector.
00:06:54.000You built a business in manufacturing.
00:06:56.000You ran in what was once considered to be a long shot campaign.
00:06:59.000In fact, twice you've upended the polls and you've really built a name for yourself in Wisconsin that is considerable.
00:07:05.000But again, I don't know the personal biography of your opponent, but I can't imagine he spent 30 years in the private sector actually working with his hands and building something of consequence.
00:07:13.000Talk about the 87,000 new IRS agents and then talk a little about your biography and contrast that with probably the lack of one from your opponent.
00:07:22.000Well, the good news, if we do gain control over the Senate and the House, I think we can pass a standalone bill to rescind that with 87,000 IRS agents.
00:07:32.000And I'd have a hard time thinking Democrats would vote against that.
00:07:35.000I think they'd realize at that point in time there's a huge political blunder.
00:07:39.000So that's something we actually can reverse.
00:07:41.000In terms of comparison, there is no comparison.
00:07:43.000I don't think he ever had a job in the private sector.
00:07:46.000He might have had a part-time job or so.
00:07:48.000He's been a political activist ever since he left college.
00:07:51.000Why did about the fact that he got a diploma?
00:08:10.000I worked 40 years in the private sector, got my first tax paying job at the age of 15, started working full-time at the age of 17, worked full-time going through college, didn't have debt, ended up with $7,000 in the bank.
00:08:22.000I started a manufacturing plant, ran it for 30 years.
00:08:31.000And so, you know, I am, I think, what I certainly want in an elected official, somebody who has led a full life, has experience in the private sector, so they understand it, they have sympathy for it, and then step up the plate and offer yourself for public services.
00:08:47.000It's why I'm the guy in public and tax reform where we were only going to cut taxes for the 5% of American businesses, the C-Corps.
00:08:55.000I'm the guy that raised my hand and dug my heels and said, no, you've got to make sure that the other 95%.
00:09:02.000And of course, that's being used against me.
00:09:05.000No, 20 million tax filers took advantage of my tax cut.
00:09:09.000So many have come up to me and said, Senator, without your tax cut, I would not have survived the pandemic.
00:09:14.000I championed right to try, which is saving people's lives even under COVID.
00:09:19.000And we've got a great program in inner city Milwaukee called the Joseph Project, which is transforming people's lives by getting them good-paying jobs in manufacturing in the private sector.
00:09:34.000I know his mom worked, his dad worked, that's great.
00:09:37.000But other than working in campaigns and working for a mayor's office, I don't think he ever had a job in the private sector or maybe a short part-time one.
00:09:47.000Yeah, and so I've been misquoted when I said the guys like Obama and some people, so I always compliment him.
00:10:31.000If you want to know what the left's real plan is for your kids, just look at how they react to the wonderful company of Patriot Mobile.
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00:11:35.000We're starting to see a little bit of a change here, especially those of us that look at the news and look at the polling, looking at the trends day to day today.
00:11:43.000You can start to see a boiling point being reached.
00:11:46.000And we had some very serious concerns about a red wave about a month or two ago when Democrats seemed to have a surge in support.
00:11:52.000A lot of their summer fundraising went extremely well, and Dobbs was helpful to them in the moment.
00:11:59.000But it seems as if Election Day being in November 8th, they might have gotten too hot too quick.
00:12:06.000Inflation, crime, immigration, which, of course, DeSantis and Abbott are beautifully highlighting, all these things together, and we're starting to see our candidates increasingly get on message.
00:12:17.000So let me kind of complete the plug for Senator Johnson before I go into kind of this deeper point of how I think our candidates are getting on message and Democrats are starting to notice it.
00:12:27.000If you have any doubts about Senator Johnson, let me highlight two things.
00:12:31.000Number one, Senator Johnson is leading the charge and has been leading the charge on uncovering all the Biden corruption.
00:12:41.000He has been the guy looking into all the barisma stuff.
00:12:44.000Johnson has been on an island on so much of this stuff.
00:12:48.000Number two, the thing that really showed me who Senator Johnson was was just how he was willing to ask questions and try to draw facts and data together and host an elite group of scientists and doctors to find out what was going on with the vaccine, why are we mandating it, what other treatments are available for the Chinese coronavirus?
00:13:09.000Dr. Malone, Pierre Corey, Dr. McCullough, that was Senator Ron Johnson.
00:13:14.000So if that issue means something to you, medical totalitarianism, the fusion of corporate interests with government interests, Rand Paul, who's also in cycle, but he's going to win, and Senator Ron Johnson were easily the two most courageous senators on that issue, period.
00:13:34.000And what really gave me just a conviction in my spirit to help Senator Johnson however I can is that Senator Johnson was in the midst of a very difficult race.
00:13:48.000He knew that it was going to be well funded, and he still leaned in and hosted Dr. Malone, Dr. McCullough, asked questions about mRNA technology.
00:13:56.000Again, just asking questions, but hosting that venue in the building of the United States Senate.
00:14:14.000And if you ask any of the A-team, you ask Pierre Corey, you ask Dr. Malone, you say, hey, who was the most helpful legislative contact that you had in the federal government?
00:17:06.000And I'm starting to see the trends get better, but it's not done yet.
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00:18:28.000And I think all of you have seen his work in one way or the other.
00:18:32.000And it's Paul Sperry, and he joins us right now.
00:18:35.000Paul, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:18:37.000Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me on.
00:18:39.000First, I want to compliment you again on your fabulous work.
00:18:42.000I read it very frequently, and it's very thorough.
00:18:45.000And so let's start with this story here, which I think is really important, is kind of unpacking this Trump-Hillary double standard for her and how the FBI helped obstruct that investigation and how they're going after Donald Trump.
00:19:02.000Yeah, so we found that the same FBI division investigating Trump for possible emphasis, possible obstruction at Mar-a-Lago, let Hillary off the hook despite solid evidence that she and her team obstructed investigators in 2016.
00:19:20.000Back when they were trying to recover subpoenaed emails that she had deleted, the FBI even let the custodian of her emails skate from prosecution, even though it repeatedly lied to agents about destroying all of the email evidence, including after they gave him immunity.
00:19:38.000Yeah, and so I suppose, I mean, the question that everyone then has is, why is it that the Department of Justice is able to get away with this or the FBI just kind of monitors themselves?
00:19:52.000Are these same people who are now going after the Mar-a-Lago and raiding Mar-a-Lago?
00:19:58.000They're the same people that then derailed the Hillary Clinton investigation, right?
00:20:02.000Yeah, the same team, counterintelligence team that whitewashed.
00:20:07.000Both of these, by the way, were called espionage investigations, and they were sensitive investigative matters, Sims, and they were closely, they're now both closely held within headquarters in Washington.
00:20:24.000There's one person that worked at, it was code-named the Hillary investigation of her emails and her homebrew server.
00:20:34.000It was codenamed mid-year exam, the investigation.
00:20:36.000But, anyways, he was the senior lawyer, the attorney on that case, counterintelligence division.
00:20:45.000Well, Kevin Kleinsmith is no longer with the FBI.
00:20:48.000He's been convicted of doctoring evidence that was used to obtain a wiretap warrant under the FISA on one of Trump's advisors.
00:21:00.000But Klein Smith, a lot of people don't realize this, he was instrumental in that whitewash of Hillary's case.
00:21:06.000He was a very biased Trump, and he was a big Clinton supporter.
00:21:12.000He's gone, but a lot of the others, including analysts that worked in that case, are still there, and they're involved in this Mar-a-Lago investigation.
00:21:20.000So, I mean, look, it's really important we don't forget this stuff.
00:21:24.000And I'll be very honest, Paul, your reporting illuminates my cynicism towards this because I read it and it confirms what I believe.
00:21:35.000But I say, of course, obviously, the FBI and the DOJ is on the side of the regime.
00:21:41.000So blatant and such flagrant crimes committed by Hillary Clinton with no oversight at all whatsoever in the FBI or the DOJ.
00:21:50.000And so can you give our listeners an update?
00:21:52.000And also, this would be helpful for me because I've been so into other stories here.
00:21:56.000What really is the latest right now with the Special Master, the raid on Mar-a-Lago?
00:22:02.000What is the latest news out of that story?
00:22:06.000Well, the main headline is because she approved the Special Master to sort through all the boxes of documents and personal items that they seized from Trump's personal residence.
00:22:24.000F to go through, figure out what is personal, what is privileged, attorney-client privilege, other privilege, and exactly what is classified or is it classified?
00:22:39.000Are those documents that had classified markings allegedly?
00:22:59.000And the bigger headline is that now Attorney General Merrick Garland can, you know, this investigation of the mishandling of supposed classified information is ground to a halt.
00:23:15.000He cannot use any of that so-called evidence in furtherance of that part of the investigation.
00:23:23.000However, this is what people don't understand, is that what they're really drilling down on, if Trump is in any legal jeopardy, it's about it and his lawyers specifically, the custodian of his records down there who certified that they had turned over everything under subpoena.
00:23:43.000That part of the investigation, which is obstruction, potential lying to agents, that can go forward by the special master.
00:23:53.000They can put those lawyers custodian the records before the grand jury to testify.
00:24:01.000They don't need those documents necessarily to pursue that case.
00:24:06.000And that's the aggravating factor in all this.
00:24:10.000That's the more serious charge if they could ever bring it.
00:24:15.000But that's what they were, that was the most serious charge in the Hillary case, and they completely gave her a pass.
00:24:23.000I mean, the parallels between their two cases couldn't be more similar.
00:24:26.000I mean, yet the treatment accorded them by the FBI and DOJ couldn't be more different.
00:24:32.000Both of the cases involved the handling of government records, of course, including classified information, but both of them kept the records at their homes, in fact, stored in their basements where they were unsecure, possibly vulnerably compromised.
00:24:46.000Although Hillary's restored electronically and potentially open to the internet and vulnerable to foreign hackers, while Trump's restored in paper form, what else?
00:24:56.000Both of their lawyers acted as custodians of the records, and both of them face allegations of mishandling state secrets and destroying or concealing documents under subpoena and then lying about it.
00:25:20.000And instead of grand jury subpoenas, search warrants, and FBI raids, Hillary's team got immunity deals, other concessions, even sweetheart deals.
00:25:30.000In fact, the FBI even at one point agreed to destroy evidence, in effect, obstructing their own investigation.
00:25:38.000And, of course, you recall, Charlie, FBI Director Comey drafted an exoneration for Hillary before his agents could even interview her.
00:25:48.000And he and his investigators could even call their investigation an investigation.
00:25:54.000They had to call it a matter for the orders from Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
00:26:00.000Could you even imagine Attorney General Merrick Garland ordering the FBI now to not call the Trump raid an investigation?
00:27:03.000It's his uncle Jimmy, Jimmy Biden, Joe Biden's younger brother.
00:27:13.000But you had mentioned earlier, all this double standard, it just, I think you mentioned it, it's breeding cynicism.
00:27:22.000And this kind of glaring double standard in how the FBI and Justice Department goes after certain politically connected or people or politicians, elected officials, it just breeds more cynicism in the public mind about how things operate in Washington.
00:27:42.000Of course, it doesn't excuse Trump's behavior, but the point is, if you're going to investigate politicians for mishandling records and obstruction and lying, then investigate them with the same rigor and the same aggressiveness.
00:27:56.000I mean, don't pull punches because the target is from one party and throw the book at another target because he's from the other party.
00:28:52.000But my point is, even if there's not a record of that, and he said that verbally, orally, it doesn't matter because it's not a crime.
00:29:03.000Because right now, Bill Clinton at his Harlem office in his Chappaqua home and former President Obama at his Calamara home in D.C. and in his Kenwood home in Chicago, they have classified information there stored.
00:29:19.000They're receiving intelligence briefings every week.
00:29:23.000Every former president is set up with a SCIF in their homes while they're president, when they visit back at their homes, and after their presidency, they get intelligence briefings, and they have to have a SCIF where they receive those briefings.
00:29:41.000It's a secure compartmented information facilities, SCIF.
00:29:46.000And they are handling classified documents and information.
00:29:52.000So it's just outrageous that they're singling Trump out.
00:30:05.000And here with us right now is Doug Mastriano, who we are enthusiastically behind to become the next governor of the fabulous state of Pennsylvania.
00:30:43.000And the week before Emerson College had a poll three points apart.
00:30:47.000And one thing we did a good rally with Senator Santorum last night outside of Philly.
00:30:52.000And one thing he commented on was, you know, you can't measure enthusiasm in these polls.
00:30:56.000And what we saw at the rally that you said generously sponsored and hosted, both myself and Governor DeSantis in Pittsburgh last month, was a massive crowd in the middle of a workday coming out.
00:31:10.000And Ron DeSantis and his wife Casey commented to Remy and I privately that they haven't seen so much energy in a room like that in some time.
00:31:26.000He's one of my least favorite politicians in the country.
00:31:29.000He also was involved and covered for some of the illegal unconstitutional election changes that happened in 2020 that I believe was an unconstitutional administration of the 2020 election.
00:31:39.000But, Doug, talk about the issue of crime, huge issue right now in Pennsylvania.
00:31:43.000Shapiro is responsible for a lot of the rise in crime.
00:32:08.000So, instead, he's calling names just like the juvenile Democrats always do, you know, ad hominem attacks, personal attacks, you know, labeling anti-this or phobic that.
00:32:39.000The guy's a complete fraud and fake and failure, as you said.
00:32:42.000Instead of doing his job and having the back of our law enforcement, instead of protecting the people of Pennsylvania, he's chasing these political ambitions and dreams that he has that are well beyond Pennsylvania.
00:32:56.000I want to reinforce how important it is that Doug wins.
00:32:59.000He could be one of America's great governors.
00:33:00.000I mean that he's tough, he's wise, he'll do a great job.
00:33:04.000If you live in Pennsylvania or if you have a friend that lives in Pennsylvania, you need to text interviews like this and links of Doug, who gets asked real questions to friends, because the mainstream media is going after Doug like crazy.
00:33:17.000You got to turn yourself into a one-stop shop kind of campaigner for Doug.
00:33:22.000Finally, Doug, 30 seconds, your website, how can people help you?
00:33:42.000I think you got these guys on the ropes.
00:33:44.000I think Pennsylvania is a very, it's a beautiful state with wonderful people that I think has been abused by political leadership in the Democrat Party for far too long.
00:33:52.000Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania, I think, shows us exactly how Pennsylvania can vote.