The Charlie Kirk Show - Tyler Robinson Hearing: The Final Wrap-Up

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00:01:17.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:20.000 We are currently in a recess in the court on the fifth day of the state of Utah versus Tyler Robinson, the preliminary hearing.

00:01:28.000 And we've got some great guys here starting off to help us make sense of the insanity that sometimes you see online, but also make sense of the court proceedings.

00:01:38.000 That is Kurt Schlichter.

00:01:40.000 He is obviously an attorney.

00:01:42.000 He's an author of a lot of books.

00:01:43.000 Hold on, Kurt.

00:01:46.000 You sent me, you got a new one, American Warlord.

00:01:49.000 That's coming up.

00:01:49.000 I want to make sure we give you that.

00:01:51.000 Kurt, you're like a lawyer.

00:01:53.000 Well, you're not like a lawyer.

00:01:53.000 You are a lawyer, and yet you're also a novelist, which you're prolific, by the way.

00:01:58.000 So I want to give you a lot of kudos for that.

00:02:02.000 And so welcome to the show.

00:02:04.000 We also have the very online famous and famous for his company, Justin Nazaroff, CEO of Phoenix Ammunition.

00:02:12.000 Gentlemen, welcome to the show.

00:02:14.000 It's good to have you both on.

00:02:15.000 As we're waiting here, since we do have a munitions expert, ballistics expert, let's start there.

00:02:24.000 What are some of the biggest misconceptions?

00:02:26.000 Because, Justin, I've seen you all over online right now.

00:02:29.000 You're just going ham on everybody when it comes to ballistics.

00:02:33.000 What are the biggest misconceptions you're seeing, and what do you want to set the record straight with?

00:02:37.000 Yeah, well, I think the first misconception is that there's something unusual about the lack of an exit wound.

00:02:46.000 Previous to this preliminary hearing, we really didn't know the projectile that was being used, and now it's been, you know, confirmed and identified as a Remington core locked, a very, very, very common soft point round that's been around for decades.

00:03:03.000 And anybody who's used one can tell you that jacket separation fragmentation is something that can absolutely happen when these projectiles strike bone.

00:03:19.000 And so, this whole idea that it could not have happened, and so therefore, any suggestion that it was a bullet that killed Charlie must mean that there's some kind of greater conspiracy in play, you know, exploding microphones, electrocution, all this kind of stuff.

00:03:36.000 I mean, we're seeing it now.

00:03:39.000 These are the things that certain podcasters have been speculating on for months, and now we're actually seeing the evidence in court, and it's pretty obvious what happened.

00:03:51.000 You know, this is.

00:03:53.000 This is very, very common with hollow point and soft point projectiles.

00:03:58.000 It's not at all unusual.

00:04:00.000 Yeah, and you know, you always hear that expression bullets do funny things, they're unpredictable.

00:04:05.000 This is a point you've been making for a while.

00:04:07.000 Did you, Phoenix, you were early on this, and Kurt, I don't know if you're a gun aficionado, but basically, you made the point that 16 out of 17 of the.30.6 caliber rounds that Remington manufactures have this type of soft tip, which you would expect to sort of balloon out or mushroom out, designed not to.

00:04:30.000 Leave and exit.

00:04:31.000 When what's the point of that for those that are unaffiliated with hunting or sport shooting?

00:04:37.000 Well, look, as a lawyer, first of all, as an officer, I wasn't allowed to have a gun because I'd probably shoot myself in the foot.

00:04:46.000 But what Justin's really doing here is a great job.

00:04:50.000 I'm a big fan from online.

00:04:51.000 I was reading his stuff today, and he's providing a role here as an expert witness, right?

00:04:57.000 Who's giving us expertise that normal people don't have.

00:05:00.000 And as a lawyer, you know, I didn't know all this stuff.

00:05:03.000 But I had the advantage of getting guys like Justin in who could explain things in common parlance so that regular folks could understand.

00:05:12.000 And Justin was talking about that today.

00:05:15.000 He was talking about how softpoint bullets work, what the purpose of jacketing is, how this ammunition is designed.

00:05:23.000 And, you know, these are powerful facts that Justin's providing, not speculation, not nonsense, not Elmer Fudd lore.

00:05:34.000 He's giving real, real solid information.

00:05:38.000 So I'll defer to him on the specifics, but if I was a lawyer, I would hire someone like him as my expert witness, and then I would argue the hell out of everything he's taught the jury.

00:05:48.000 Well, you're talking, this is something Blake and I talk a lot about.

00:05:52.000 You're talking about evidence, you're talking about proof, actually, that's being presented in the court of law now.

00:05:58.000 And I think we've had 10 months of a vacuum.

00:06:01.000 And by the way, today is the 10 month mark, which is worth noting.

00:06:07.000 We've had 10 months, though, of just this vacuum of facts and evidence.

00:06:11.000 Now you see vacuums and facts actually being injected into the conversation.

00:06:15.000 And yet there are still people that refuse, that are doubling and tripling down.

00:06:21.000 And I'll go to either of you on this.

00:06:23.000 Well, actually, I think I want to go out, since we have Kurt the novelist with us.

00:06:28.000 Kurt, just you've written stories.

00:06:31.000 What does this commitment to a fan fiction?

00:06:36.000 Yeah, fan fiction.

00:06:38.000 Fan horror, they get very attached to narratives that we can see require huge leaps of logic.

00:06:45.000 They don't stand up in the face of evidence and they only get more committed to them over time.

00:06:51.000 What's going on here? 1.00

00:06:52.000 Well, look, some people are stupid, some people are mentally ill, but most people have a bias towards never admitting fault. 1.00

00:07:02.000 It's hard to admit you're wrong. 1.00

00:07:04.000 I mean, even among attorneys, and we pride ourselves at being objective, at looking at facts and following them wherever they go.

00:07:12.000 And then, you know, and then arguing the case for our client as best we can. 0.94

00:07:18.000 You know, it's human nature to have pride and not want to say, you know, I listened to a bunch of podcasting shysters, a bunch of clowns, and they misled me.

00:07:31.000 And again, I want to go back to Justin because I'm so impressed by the way he calmly and thoroughly explains the facts.

00:07:42.000 There's no, you know, no fluff.

00:07:46.000 No anger, no screaming or yelling.

00:07:50.000 It's just here's the facts, here's how it works.

00:07:53.000 And people of good faith will respond to that.

00:07:55.000 People who are suddenly defensive because they've been wrong about something and they're frankly embarrassed, you're never going to convince them.

00:08:05.000 But most normal people are subject to changing their minds when they see compelling evidence.

00:08:13.000 And I think the kind of compelling evidence Justin's providing as an expert is immensely useful.

00:08:20.000 Gentlemen, I'm just being told in my ear that they're coming back from this break.

00:08:24.000 Justin, I wanted to get you in so much more here.

00:08:26.000 Man, because you have been doing the Lord's work shutting down so much of this garbage.

00:08:33.000 I have no idea how long they're going to be on for, so I'm not sure if you guys can stick around.

00:08:37.000 Kurt, I know you can.

00:08:39.000 We're going to take the hearing until the next break, so back to the hearing, and we'll talk to these gentlemen hopefully in a few.

00:08:49.000 All right.

00:08:50.000 What you're seeing here, ladies and gentlemen, is that John Madden style compilation video of where Tyler Robinson was traced on campus.

00:09:01.000 And the court ruled that that was not going to be broadcast for public.

00:09:06.000 Then Jeffrey Nyman, who is the family representative for the Kirk family, asked that the family be able to see that.

00:09:14.000 So the judge ruled that they could.

00:09:15.000 He's now chosen for that to happen now.

00:09:18.000 So Erica, Kathy, Rob, the Kirk family collectively are now able to watch that compilation video with enhancements, zoom ins, kind of red circles that draw your eye to it.

00:09:31.000 That's how I've been told, had that video described.

00:09:34.000 So they are doing that.

00:09:35.000 Now, and by the way, good job, Jeffrey Nyman.

00:09:40.000 He's been excellent, excellent in representing the family's wishes and pushing for speed, pushing for transparency.

00:09:46.000 So, a lot of progress there, thanks to Mr. Nyman.

00:09:51.000 Okay, this whole thing was so boring this morning.

00:09:55.000 Yes.

00:09:55.000 And I feel like that is.

00:09:56.000 This is our punishment for yesterday.

00:09:58.000 Yeah, yesterday was very substantive.

00:10:00.000 Today was not.

00:10:01.000 I want to bring up something as we're seeing that, we're not seeing it, but presumably the video is being played right now in court for the family.

00:10:11.000 Kaylee McEnany, who's a friend, she's also a lawyer, former White House press secretary.

00:10:16.000 She has come out on the offensive saying that she is mind blowing to her Judge Tony Graff citing Article 1, Section 28 of the Utah Constitution that allows Erica Kirk and the family to be treated with respect, et cetera, et cetera.

00:10:31.000 And she goes, but I would love for him to cite Utah Code 773872 that gives Erica Kirk and her family the, quote, right to a speedy disposition of the charges, free from unwarranted delay caused by or at the behest of the defendant.

00:10:45.000 So under Utah code, there can't be undue delay.

00:10:49.000 She then goes on to say that in the United States of America, the average plea is made by a defendant within 24 to 48 hours of an incident.

00:11:00.000 24 to 48 hours.

00:11:01.000 We are now closing in on the year mark.

00:11:04.000 We're at 10 months today.

00:11:06.000 And the judge yesterday said, instead of issuing his ruling on whether this has reached probable cause, which we all know that it has, He has instead said, I'm going to wait till September 1st.

00:11:19.000 We're going to have another hearing September 1st.

00:11:22.000 It is July 10th.

00:11:24.000 So, you know, you do the math, it's almost two months away to then rule that, yes, we have reached probable cause.

00:11:30.000 Now, she said 48 hours on average for a plea, and we'll be looking at 108,000 hours.

00:11:36.000 So, many multiples of that.

00:11:39.000 So, yeah, it is frustrating.

00:11:41.000 You know, I think in general, Judge Graff has done a pretty good job.

00:11:47.000 I have notes.

00:11:48.000 I think.

00:11:49.000 He could control the defense.

00:11:51.000 8,000 hours.

00:11:52.000 I should correct my math on that.

00:11:53.000 Okay, there you go.

00:11:54.000 In general, I mean, I think the larger criticism of the way he's handling this is he's just losing control of the clock, and this is dragging on too long.

00:12:03.000 I mean, that questioning that we just went through on the DNA, my eyes were glazing over, and maybe that's the point.

00:12:11.000 Maybe that is the strategy that they're intending.

00:12:15.000 It's tough to know, but in general, he's been pretty good, okay?

00:12:23.000 Previous ruling and allowed more transparency in the Lance Twiggs video.

00:12:28.000 He deserves a lot of, you know, he deserves acknowledgement from us that that was the right decision.

00:12:37.000 But this is just beginning to become a clown show in just how long it's taking.

00:12:43.000 And so hopefully that point is made either by the state or by Jeffrey Nyman before we get too far along here today.

00:12:50.000 Because, you know, I think the point has been made.

00:12:55.000 The prosecution notably, I don't know if we, I think we have that clip as a matter of fact.

00:13:01.000 The prosecution today made the point that this was, yeah, here you go.

00:13:06.000 Can we play this studio, SOT 6?

00:13:08.000 Judge, Your Honor has heard four days of testimony now.

00:13:15.000 The evidence is overwhelming, it's devastating.

00:13:18.000 And the question needs to be asked the purpose of continuing with testimony if it's long and drawn out.

00:13:24.000 Of course, the defense has the right to call witnesses.

00:13:27.000 But it needs to be within the context of this preliminary hearing.

00:13:31.000 So, Your Honor has heard four days of testimony now.

00:13:34.000 The evidence is overwhelming, it's devastating.

00:13:37.000 This was the same thing that we heard yesterday.

00:13:41.000 So, exactly.

00:13:45.000 It's like I think of what my friend, the lawyer, said.

00:13:48.000 We're getting a lot of intense detail on microscopic analysis of bullet fragments.

00:13:55.000 We're getting a lot of intense detail, I think, to blur.

00:13:59.000 You know, DNA is a complicated subject.

00:14:01.000 Oh, what's.

00:14:01.000 What are these alleles?

00:14:02.000 What's an allele?

00:14:03.000 People don't remember this stuff.

00:14:05.000 You get a lot of analysis on that to minimize the amount of time anyone is spending thinking on there were multiple confessions by the defendant by text, by in person, according to the person's testimony.

00:14:17.000 Multiple people heard it on multiple forums, and they just want to minimize the amount of attention on that because, as you say, it's devastating.

00:14:25.000 Let's go back to this.

00:14:26.000 And by the way, apologies.

00:14:27.000 Apparently, something happened with my microphone and the audio was poor for a moment there.

00:14:32.000 I do apologize.

00:14:34.000 But let's go through the facts here.

00:14:37.000 You've got law enforcement.

00:14:40.000 Tyler Robinson did it.

00:14:42.000 Tyler's trans boyfriend.

00:14:44.000 Tyler Robinson did it.

00:14:46.000 Tyler's dad.

00:14:47.000 Tyler did it.

00:14:48.000 Tyler's mom. 0.95

00:14:49.000 Tyler did it.

00:14:50.000 The evidence, in my humble opinion, points to Tyler Robinson doing it.

00:14:56.000 Whether that's the video surveillance evidence or the confessions and texts, the DNA, the forensic evidence, all of these things point in one direction.

00:15:07.000 And so you've got to wonder, with all of those different pieces of the puzzle here pointing to Tyler Robinson, what would the judge need to do to be convinced to make a ruling today?

00:15:18.000 And that's certainly the hope, but we've, from what we've seen from this situation with the judge and the way that he tends to operate, unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen.

00:15:34.000 I think we're going to have to wait until September 1st for Tyler Robinson to actually issue a plea.

00:15:39.000 Based on the judge ruling that we'll have a hearing on September 1st, you might even delay to that point.

00:15:44.000 We may get past the symbolic one year mark, which I think is insane.

00:15:47.000 In fact, if you want a big picture thing from this that I think about, this might be worth generating a bit of a discussion of how do our actual criminal justice systems operate?

00:15:59.000 How long does it take to get a defendant to plea, to trial, into prison if they're guilty now versus 50 years ago?

00:16:07.000 Now versus before COVID?

00:16:08.000 I think everything got worse during COVID.

00:16:10.000 Do we need to have more judges?

00:16:12.000 Do we need to have more court personnel? 0.64

00:16:14.000 Do we need to have more courthouses? 0.95

00:16:16.000 Do we need to streamline the process?

00:16:17.000 I want to talk about it.

00:16:18.000 You know what it is?

00:16:19.000 It's the appeals.

00:16:20.000 I'm convinced that Judge Graff is, he seems to me like a very decent human being.

00:16:27.000 He's trying his best to be impartial.

00:16:28.000 And I think what he's trying to do is protect the case from appeal and from some sort of technicality.

00:16:34.000 Because guess what?

00:16:35.000 Mr. Novak keeps threatening, right?

00:16:37.000 He's saying, this is a violation of the 14th Amendment, or, you know, my client's 6th and 14th Amendment rights.

00:16:42.000 What is that in translation, lawyer speak?

00:16:45.000 We're going to get this thing overturned, or we're going to, something, you know, something is going to be done to upend this case.

00:16:51.000 Case in this proceeding, and it sounds like it seems like he's been successful in some regard, cowing Judge Graff.

00:16:58.000 We all got that sinking feeling in our stomach yesterday when that letter was briefly displayed, and we thought, okay, they're gonna run with this.

00:17:05.000 And lo and behold, today they're running with this.

00:17:08.000 That's all they have.

00:17:08.000 This letter was blasted out to everyone.

00:17:10.000 We need to take the cameras out of the courtroom, which, if they're successful on that, means more room for weird conspiracy theorists to run wild.

00:17:18.000 That means more room for, oh, we can hope someone who's really hooked on this stuff gets into the jury pool.

00:17:24.000 Yeah, well, and here's what I'll say.

00:17:26.000 So, that gentleman that just droned on for a couple, like over an hour, basically, I'm looking at the tape from it.

00:17:34.000 He got two different instances where Caitlin Oliver, the ATF DNA section chief, who was the defense witness, testified that it was like at least one trillion times more likely that it was Tyler Robinson's DNA.

00:17:50.000 She said that twice.

00:17:51.000 One trillion.

00:17:53.000 And that's a ceiling.

00:17:53.000 It's more than a trillion.

00:17:55.000 Because that's where they cap it.

00:17:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:57.000 People don't know what octillion is.

00:17:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:59.000 So the whole thing is, you know, I get if you're a conspiracy theorist online, you think this is all fed slop.

00:18:07.000 I get it.

00:18:08.000 For us living in the real world here, I don't know what else you're looking for if you're Judge Grapp.

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00:19:30.000 The preliminary hearing in the state of Utah versus Tyler Robinson wrapped up this, I guess, depending on which part of the country you are, this early afternoon or late morning.

00:19:41.000 And we are now going to, we're moving up our recap a little bit here just to make sure that it's all fresh.

00:19:49.000 And so there's not as much evidence that was presented today, but that's okay because there is some really important, I guess, developments that we need to cover right now here to help us do it.

00:20:02.000 Is Steve Dace.

00:20:03.000 You know him from the Steve Dace Show, Blaze TV.

00:20:06.000 Great friend of the show and is a great friend of Charlie.

00:20:08.000 Steve, welcome.

00:20:11.000 We've got a lot of little details here to wrap up, and I'm going to update the audience on them first, and then we're going to get to your perspective of what's happened and then some bigger concepts that I think are important to explore.

00:20:26.000 So just after court wrapped, the preliminary hearing wrapped, Statement made by the Kirk family.

00:20:35.000 And I'm going to read that, and then there was a filing as well.

00:20:37.000 So here it is.

00:20:38.000 This is from the Kirk family.

00:20:40.000 The conclusion of the preliminary hearing marks an important step forward in the pursuit of justice for Charlie.

00:20:47.000 Our family is grateful for the prayer, support, and kindness that has been extended to us, especially through these unimaginably painful and emotionally damaging, demanding proceedings.

00:20:58.000 As difficult as these last few days have been, it brings our family comfort to know.

00:21:02.000 That the world has witnessed the overwhelming evidence of what occurred to Charlie that day.

00:21:08.000 Nothing will ever undo the loss of our beloved Charlie.

00:21:11.000 As this case moves into its next phase, we pray that truth will continue to be heard through a process that is fair, transparent, and grounded in the facts.

00:21:19.000 Okay, so the Kirk family, that would be obviously Erica, along with Rob, Charlie's father, and Kathy, Charlie's mother, issued that jointly on behalf of the family.

00:21:30.000 Then, immediately after Steve, And Blake, the family representative, Jeff Nyman, issued, he put forward a filing sort of requesting prompt resolution to the matter of probable cause, right?

00:21:46.000 So that is the legal threshold that must be reached in order to take this to a full trial.

00:21:51.000 So in this, and I believe we have the image here, he filed this like almost immediately.

00:21:56.000 It was very quick work.

00:21:58.000 He said, We are approaching the one year anniversary of Charlie's assassination, which is just mind boggling on its face.

00:22:06.000 10 months have passed since the defendant's arrest, and the five day preliminary hearing has now concluded.

00:22:12.000 The defendant is entitled to a fair trial, and he must receive one, but he is not entitled to cause undue delay in the criminal justice process.

00:22:20.000 The family is likewise entitled to a speedy resolution.

00:22:24.000 Utah Code 77387 provides that, the victim of a crime has the right to a speedy disposition of the charges free from unwarranted delay caused by or at the behest of.

00:22:37.000 The defendant.

00:22:37.000 The family trusts this court to ensure the case proceeds without further delay.

00:22:42.000 We respectfully urge this court to issue its probable cause determination no later than September 1, 2026, which is significant because right now Judge Graff has said that they'll have a hearing on September 1, right?

00:22:56.000 Which means that, Steve, we could possibly get to beyond a one year anniversary out before we even know if this is going to go to trial, before a probable cause determination has been made.

00:23:08.000 And we know it's going to be four.

00:23:10.000 Hours of oral argument at least, plus 35 pages of briefs from each side in that hearing.

00:23:18.000 So it could be very tempting for him to kick the can down the road past that hearing date.

00:23:24.000 Steve, your thoughts on balancing Judge Graff's balancing act of the constitutional rights of Tyler Robinson with the family's rights to a speedy disposition of justice?

00:23:36.000 Well, guys, I did some of my own research today, and then I've heard from some other folks way more knowledgeable on this kind of procedure legally.

00:23:45.000 And this is very abnormal the amount of time that it takes to get to this juncture.

00:23:52.000 The only thing that I can say that Because I do think overall, based on what I've seen this week, I do think the judge has been conscientious.

00:24:00.000 The only thing I can think of to justify this length of time is twofold.

00:24:04.000 Number one, because of how high profile this is, this is the most high profile martyring in America, at least since the summer of 68, when you had RFK and then MLK that spring.

00:24:19.000 This is the most viewed murder in all of human history.

00:24:23.000 And so, therefore, and then the unprecedented cottage industry of You know, wackadoodle conspiracy theories that have come up surrounding it over the last several months.

00:24:33.000 That he is trying to do everything he can to make sure this case is open and shut and doesn't give an obvious room for appeal, and is trying to do everything he can to make sure that all I's are dotted and all T's are crossed.

00:24:44.000 And then maybe hoping that this may never go to trial, that with the amount of time that all this evidence has mounted and been simmering, I think that you have watched within our movement and industry over the last 72 hours.

00:24:58.000 There have been a lot of people jumping ship.

00:25:00.000 Or turning around and saying to a lot of the wackadoodle conspiracy theorists, you know, this just is, we're off the reservation here.

00:25:07.000 We shouldn't have let it get to this far.

00:25:09.000 And at this juncture, you guys essentially have excommunicated yourselves.

00:25:13.000 And so maybe he's hoping that with this amount of evidence out there, that that might maybe motivate the Tyler Robinson folks to take a plea deal, to avoid a trial, living through all this evidence all over again.

00:25:28.000 And we can now just say justice was done and move on.

00:25:32.000 But those are the only two things, and I'm projecting in both of those.

00:25:37.000 Those are the only two things I could find for any rationale for this length of time to get to the point of even declaring probable cause, especially when you're looking at the amount of open and shut evidence there is.

00:25:50.000 You know, I was watching today when the defense attorneys were attempting five different ways to ask a question that was inadmissible and kept getting sustained and thrown out to try and question the DNA sequencing of their own witness.

00:26:03.000 And if you're trying to, if that's where you're at in your defense, you're trying to frame your own witness to the point that you're getting frequent objections against your own questions at that point, then I think you can see the shaky ground the defense is on here because of just how overwhelming this evidence is.

00:26:21.000 You're 1,000% right here, and that was my big takeaway.

00:26:24.000 There wasn't much activity in the courtroom today as far as new evidence, but the one witness that was called forward by the defense ended up making great points for the state.

00:26:34.000 And we have a couple of these clips.

00:26:36.000 We'll play one of them.

00:26:38.000 It's about, it's an ATF DNA section chief, right?

00:26:42.000 And so she, again, since the defense is witness, when the state gets up and cross-examines her, this is what they get, SOT 7.

00:26:52.000 What was your conclusion as to the likelihood ratio that you analyzed in this question, in calculation number three?

00:27:00.000 For this exhibit, the DNA profile was at least one trillion times more likely if it originated from Tyler Robinson.

00:27:09.000 As the major component and three unknown unrelated individuals, than if it originated from four unrelated individuals.

00:27:17.000 You say at least one trillion times more likely, so it could be a much higher number than one trillion.

00:27:23.000 Is that accurate?

00:27:24.000 It's possible.

00:27:26.000 But the protocols in your laboratory say you cap that at the number 1 trillion, is that right?

00:27:33.000 Correct.

00:27:34.000 We would not report a number higher than 1 trillion.

00:27:36.000 It looks like you also did a probability statistic as well in paragraph E.

00:27:41.000 The probability of an unrelated individual in the population who has not contributed DNA to the sample yielding this level of support is less than 1 in a trillion.

00:27:52.000 Okay.

00:27:53.000 So that's the defense's star witness.

00:27:55.000 That just links evidence to Tyler Robinson at one in a trillion, but that's where they cap it, so it could have been much.

00:28:03.000 I mean, we were hearing October.

00:28:04.000 Yeah, they were saying, yeah, trillion trillion.

00:28:06.000 So they just cap it out at one in the number of cells in your body, I think.

00:28:10.000 And by the way, I was getting bombarded with texts, Steve, from people that are in the legal profession, former prosecutors, all this kind of stuff, unrelated to the case, but they're watching it, right?

00:28:21.000 And they just kept the same guy that's doing all the forensic, you know, witness questioning.

00:28:28.000 On behalf of the defense, it is really hard to listen to.

00:28:30.000 Like your eyes glass over.

00:28:32.000 It is completely not fun to watch, right?

00:28:35.000 This is not riveting TV, and I think that's the point.

00:28:39.000 But they kept making the point that it is really going to turn a jury off and it's going to exasperate the judge.

00:28:46.000 It's not a good winning strategy here.

00:28:49.000 So that's the defense's best shot, okay?

00:28:51.000 Now let's go back to what you just said about the plea deal.

00:28:54.000 And this is, I think, actually a little bit more interesting here because during the course of the week, You saw the defense fighting tooth and nail to keep out what are called enhancements.

00:29:03.000 Enhancements are legally important because that's what justifies a death penalty in a case like this, right?

00:29:09.000 So if you can put an enhancement, and Blake, actually, you know this pretty well because you know the case history.

00:29:14.000 Yes, it's just you need, unfortunately, our glorious Supreme Court in one of its slightly more liberal eras said that you can't just have the death penalty as a default penalty for murder.

00:29:25.000 You need these enhancements.

00:29:27.000 There needs to be an aggravating factor.

00:29:30.000 And so we need.

00:29:32.000 Something to be sustained.

00:29:33.000 We need it to be a politically motivated crime.

00:29:35.000 We need to potentially be a crime that endangers minors.

00:29:38.000 That's another way they can go for it.

00:29:39.000 They have a few different ways they can get it, but by far the most likely is that he was motivated to target Charlie.

00:29:48.000 I think they're going a lot for that because of Charlie's religion, because then it's basically a religiously motivated hate crime enhancement that they could go for.

00:29:55.000 So you see them fighting for that, but the judge ultimately allowed the exhibit from David Englehart, who's one of the board members, explaining the mission.

00:30:05.000 Of Turning Point and explaining how deeply integrated Charlie's Christian faith was to some of his positions, say, on the trans issue or on genders and sex, right?

00:30:15.000 So that ended up getting admitted into evidence, right?

00:30:18.000 Not only that, but you had the political motivations in the text messages where it says, some hate just can't be negotiated out.

00:30:26.000 I had enough of his hate.

00:30:27.000 Then you also had the bullet engravings, which had Bella Chow, which is a famous anti fascist song from Italy back in the 1940s.

00:30:35.000 You had Hey Fascist Catch.

00:30:38.000 There are multiple pieces of that puzzle that explain the why. 0.80

00:30:42.000 And so I don't understand what leg they're going to have to stand on.

00:30:45.000 But the point is, if they were able to successfully argue against some of those enhancements or those pieces of evidence that would lead to the enhancements, you know, from being admitted as evidence, maybe that changes their plea calculation.

00:30:58.000 Yeah, I think at this point, if they weren't thinking this going in, I have to believe after the week that they just endured as counsel, Tyler's defense, their main role at this point is just saving his life.

00:31:12.000 I mean, the evidence here is pretty overwhelming.

00:31:14.000 And so that's probably all this is about, or at least it's a prime directive, is saving his life.

00:31:20.000 And, you know, there's a balance here in that, on one hand, we want him to have this kind of vigorous defense.

00:31:28.000 We want him to have this kind of detailed defense.

00:31:31.000 He has real attorneys, folks that have represented people like the Menendez brothers.

00:31:35.000 These aren't just, you know, public defenders appointed by the court for some lowly soul who couldn't afford otherwise.

00:31:42.000 You want him to be scrutinized under a rigorous defense on his behalf because, again, how important this case is, the precedent that is being set here.

00:31:53.000 And how precedent setting this senseless tragedy and assassination was.

00:31:58.000 And so you want every stone turned over.

00:32:02.000 You want everything explored so that no one is left to remain.

00:32:05.000 I'm just asking questions for another nine or 10 months of a grift.

00:32:09.000 We want to have all that stuff exhausted and thrown out there.

00:32:12.000 But there's a line between that, which does serve the system we have, whether we like it or not, it is the system we have.

00:32:19.000 There's a line there somewhere between that.

00:32:22.000 And now we're just exasperating people and exhausting this.

00:32:26.000 And we're delaying justice for a family here when the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

00:32:30.000 And so I think we can certainly say after five days of this this week that this evidence is pretty overwhelming.

00:32:35.000 And if maybe at the start of this week with a hearing that was already delayed by two months anyway, it was supposed, as you guys know and your audience knows, to take place in May.

00:32:43.000 So we've already delayed it by a couple of months already to get here to July.

00:32:47.000 Now you're talking about delaying it another couple of months just to get to really the first key official juncture of a declarative judgment, one way or another.

00:32:55.000 I think we are, if we're not close.

00:32:58.000 If we're not at least close to the line of we're going from conscientiousness here to exasperation, I think we've already crossed it.

00:33:05.000 I think that's such a great framing, Steve, exasperation.

00:33:09.000 But we do.

00:33:12.000 Yeah, okay.

00:33:12.000 Yeah, hang tight.

00:33:14.000 I've got some stuff I really want to share, but Blake, give me.

00:33:18.000 We want you to be absolutely certain.

00:33:20.000 I want to be absolutely certain.

00:33:22.000 Okay, so just hang tight.

00:33:23.000 Blake, why don't you.

00:33:26.000 The biggest piece of evidence you saw that.

00:33:29.000 That was admitted in court for the public viewing.

00:33:32.000 What was it?

00:33:33.000 What would you say it was?

00:33:35.000 There was a lot, thankfully, as we can say.

00:33:38.000 I think we go back to the thing that the defense was most eager to move past: that we have Lance Twiggs on camera.

00:33:46.000 He says, Yep, I received these text messages from Tyler Robinson.

00:33:53.000 I'm the guy who did it.

00:33:54.000 He says, Check for this note.

00:33:57.000 We saw more detail of that conversation than we saw before, where we actually have Tyler say, F, I thought I deleted this.

00:34:03.000 He seems to have mistakenly roped Lance Twiggs in.

00:34:08.000 He details trying to retrieve his rifle.

00:34:11.000 We have the description of the note.

00:34:13.000 We were mistakenly shown an image of that note.

00:34:16.000 We see the burned version of that note.

00:34:18.000 We see Lance Twiggs.

00:34:20.000 We heard Lance Twiggs say he confessed to me in person, crying, saying he didn't want to do it, or he wishes he hadn't done it.

00:34:28.000 And I think that, in concert with the physical evidence we have, just makes it.

00:34:35.000 Absolutely overwhelming, and people will fixate on whether they have 100, you know, can they match this bullet to the exact gun, or is it only the same category?

00:34:46.000 That is so beside the point when all evidence you have supports the claim that Tyler Robinson did it, and when you have direct confession to it.

00:34:57.000 It truly is overwhelming.

00:34:59.000 It almost feels like we're being toyed with or something that this is even up for debate to me.

00:35:06.000 All right, so.

00:35:08.000 I'm just getting some breaking here right now.

00:35:12.000 And I think we, this is public, it's public domain.

00:35:16.000 This is from Heidi Hatch, KUTV reporter.

00:35:20.000 So she says, and we're pulling this video, but after the defense final DNA witness, the court allowed the family to watch the zoomed in surveillance video from Utah Valley University.

00:35:31.000 Okay, remember a little bit, rewind the tape here.

00:35:34.000 There was a huge rigmarole about the enhanced video, right?

00:35:38.000 So this is zoomed in.

00:35:39.000 Yeah, zoomed in, and the quality I'm being told is surprisingly high.

00:35:47.000 And this, they called it the John Madden kind of style video because, you know, I think they circle it and they zoom in, they draw your eye to kind of where Tyler's walking around on campus.

00:35:57.000 She said, Heidi Hatch says, even zoomed in, the quality of the video is surprisingly high.

00:36:03.000 Because remember, there's press in the courtroom that was able to watch this as well.

00:36:07.000 It just wasn't broadcast to the public.

00:36:09.000 You could see the man on the roof, reportedly, this is her words, reportedly Tyler Robinson getting down into that, Whine or prone position before the shot was fired.

00:36:20.000 The video showing Robinson allegedly returning to campus with jeans on shows that very distinct limp with the rifle likely in the leg of his pants.

00:36:28.000 You apparently can see things.

00:36:32.000 We have another source, someone who was able to see it.

00:36:34.000 He says, You see the person that we believe is Tyler Robinson.

00:36:38.000 You can see them go over the guardrail, crouch down to assemble the rifle, run across the roof, crouch down, take the shot at the time where we know the shot happened at 12 23 28.

00:36:52.000 So, you see this person roll over the sort of railing or whatever that was to the rooftop of the Losey Center.

00:37:00.000 And then Heidi goes on this is again the KUTV local reporter there in Salt Lake City.

00:37:06.000 She says, heartbreaking to watch Erica Kirk and Charlie's parents as they watched in greater detail these final moments before Charlie was shot and killed on campus.

00:37:18.000 So, they did watch him assemble the rifle.

00:37:22.000 Go over the railing, and the enhanced video is apparently extraordinarily clear and visual.

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00:38:31.000 So, and it looks like they also, yeah, in the enhanced video, it makes it more clear the limp is he has a rifle shaped object in his pants.

00:38:40.000 It seems they're able to zoom in and make that.

00:38:43.000 Another reporter actually just reached out to me and said the enhanced surveillance video Jeff Nyman, the Kirk family representative, got the court to play at the end was the single most damning piece of evidence in the state's arsenal.

00:39:08.000 We saw a lot of evidence.

00:39:09.000 We saw a lot of damning evidence.

00:39:11.000 And for an independent reporter to say that to me is, yeah, and I hope these journalists write about it.

00:39:21.000 And actually, I think we might be getting Jack Pasobic, he might be joining just to describe what he saw because I believe he was inside the courtroom.

00:39:33.000 Steve, I don't know if you have any thoughts on that, but my instant reaction is I can't imagine what Erica and Rob and Kathy must have been feeling. to see it in that vivid detail.

00:39:46.000 Most people, most murder cases, and this is what's so funny about the internet.

00:39:50.000 The internet's like, well, you can't see his face and it's blurry.

00:39:55.000 Most murder convictions happen without video of the actual incident.

00:40:00.000 In this instance, we have this luxury of hours of footage watching him meander around campus and case it out.

00:40:09.000 I just can't imagine, yeah.

00:40:12.000 I mean, we've had, By comparison, we've had murder convictions of people who were definitely guilty where they don't have a body.

00:40:21.000 Yeah.

00:40:21.000 And we don't have a body.

00:40:23.000 We don't have a murder weapon.

00:40:23.000 You just have overwhelming contextual circumstantial evidence.

00:40:27.000 And here we have that and we also have the DNA, the weapon, the parents' turn, the video, the confession.

00:40:36.000 Yeah.

00:40:38.000 Steve, please first react to just the emotional impact of that moment for the Kirk family.

00:40:46.000 I.

00:40:47.000 I don't know how the judge can possibly watch the family go through witnessing that and then say, but we're going to hold you off here for about two more months to try to get the first phase of closure.

00:41:01.000 I just, again, like I said a few minutes ago, there's a line somewhere between conscientiousness and exasperation.

00:41:09.000 And I said that before you told me about this video, guys.

00:41:12.000 And now with this video, we're way over that line.

00:41:16.000 Like that line is not even, we're so far past it now that it's not even in the rear view.

00:41:21.000 Review mirror at this point.

00:41:22.000 Like the judge has already amended himself before when he knew he was wrong.

00:41:26.000 He needs to amend himself again.

00:41:28.000 And it's just very clear here that the Kirk family has deserved at least stage one of closure as soon as absolutely possible here.

00:41:39.000 As for the skeptics and stuff online, again, I don't ever have a problem with people asking questions about anything.

00:41:47.000 My issue is, and a lot of our institutions, and I know the three of us agree with this.

00:41:51.000 A lot of our institutions are deserving and have worked hard to earn all this skepticism that has been pent up over the last few years, for sure.

00:41:58.000 The question is where do we go for answers, right?

00:42:01.000 And it would be one thing if these people were just going to question the official narrative.

00:42:08.000 The other thing, to try to shift the guilt of this crime, even to Charlie's widow herself, and to try to hold on to these narratives as this evidence mounts, is just particularly reprehensible and despicable and just wicked and evil.

00:42:24.000 I'd say that, secondly, as well.

00:42:26.000 And then, thirdly, I think we have a real teachable moment here, just for all of us that do this for a living.

00:42:31.000 And that is when we have events, when there's going to be things like trials, there's going to be things like hearings, evidence is going to be presented.

00:42:39.000 You know, we don't really have to all be in a hurry to be wrong.

00:42:43.000 You know, there's going to be a process, and it's going to be somewhat transparent, and we're going to get answers.

00:42:48.000 And you don't have to look like a clown when it's all over.

00:42:51.000 You can just say, you know what, I kind of just want to wait and see what the evidence says.

00:42:56.000 I saw Don Jr. say that the other day after leaving the courtroom.

00:42:59.000 With Erica.

00:43:00.000 It was very clear, he said.

00:43:01.000 Now, looking at the evidence, that it was very clear that Tyler Robinson is absolutely guilty.

00:43:06.000 It's okay.

00:43:07.000 It's okay to not know everything, to not have an immediate take on everything, and to just let processes play itself out, particularly something that is as personal and as tragic as this particular circumstance.

00:43:18.000 I'm going to play this local news reporter, Heidi Hatch, her recounting of this video, SOP 33.

00:43:25.000 The Tyler Robinson hearing has adjourned for the day and for the entire hearing.

00:43:29.000 The defense finished with their final DNA witness from the ATF.

00:43:33.000 After that, the judge allowed the family to view without it being broadcast.

00:43:38.000 The zoomed in surveillance video from Utah Valley University, the quality was surprisingly high.

00:43:44.000 A lot more detail you could see of the man that is reportedly Tyler Robinson making his way through campus, up and down the stairs, into the parking garage, and even zoomed in on the roof where you can see the man who is reportedly Robinson lying down into that prone position before the shots were fired.

00:44:01.000 As that came up on that video, that zoomed in video, Erica Kirk breaking down in tears, as well as Katherine, her mother in law, Charlie's mother, clinging to each other, hugging each other as that video played out.

00:44:14.000 Yeah.

00:44:20.000 So.

00:44:23.000 That's tough.

00:44:24.000 Yeah.

00:44:26.000 And I think about the timestamp, too, Steve.

00:44:29.000 You know, just the.

00:44:33.000 Just knowing that moment.

00:44:35.000 1223, 38.

00:44:40.000 I don't know.

00:44:40.000 I avoid fixating on that.

00:44:42.000 1223, 28.

00:44:43.000 Yeah, it's just.

00:44:47.000 Anyways, I think we're going to have Jack join us and kind of walk through what he saw.

00:44:59.000 So we'll wait for him to join.

00:45:01.000 I want to go back to what you said, Steve, though, because I think it was an important point.

00:45:06.000 And that is, you know, you don't have to rush ahead just to be wrong.

00:45:10.000 You know, I was really moved by that statement from Don Jr. this week.

00:45:16.000 You know, he said, he went on Fox News and he said, you know, I've taken.

00:45:20.000 You know, a lot of incoming because I haven't been more vocal.

00:45:22.000 Well, now I've seen it.

00:45:24.000 And, you know, like you said, the evidence is compelling, it's overwhelming.

00:45:30.000 There's a lot of people that have used that word overwhelming.

00:45:33.000 We're not telling them to use it.

00:45:34.000 I think it's just the word that comes to mind for a lot of people when they see all of this together.

00:45:39.000 What is the right path forward with people?

00:45:43.000 I'm already seeing some of these comments come out about, you know, hey, I drank the Kool Aid and I regret that, you know.

00:45:54.000 People are starting to, little by little, and I think we're going to see more of this, sort of admit that they had it wrong.

00:46:02.000 What should be our path forward?

00:46:05.000 Well, all three of us represent a worldview that makes it very clear that mercy triumphs over judgment.

00:46:10.000 Now, it doesn't cancel judgment, otherwise, there will be no such place as hell.

00:46:14.000 So, eventually, there is a judgment.

00:46:16.000 But all of us are deserving of it.

00:46:19.000 None of us are deserving of mercy, and that's why it's called grace.

00:46:22.000 So, I think that for those who sincerely want to come forward, Sincerely want to apologize, sincerely want to repent.

00:46:31.000 First and foremost, apologize to Erica and the entire family.

00:46:36.000 I think that they deserve an honest hearing in terms of the integrity and the sincerity of that apology and that repentance.

00:46:48.000 Therefore, by the grace of God, go I, forgive us our trespasses, Lord, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

00:46:55.000 But here's the thing forgiveness and trust are not necessarily the same thing.

00:47:00.000 And I do think there's quite a few people whose trust level through this.

00:47:04.000 I really believe both Charlie's murder and the aftermath of it was the latest in a series of providential siftings that have taken place in our culture.

00:47:12.000 And I think too many people failed this one.

00:47:14.000 And I think this is where humility has to come into play.

00:47:16.000 You know, the arrogance, there's a reason why Gnosticism was the first heresy in the history of our species because it appeals to our vanity and it appeals to our narcissism and our egos.

00:47:27.000 And the idea that you have the secret knowledge, that you have the secret sauce, that you know the stuff.

00:47:32.000 That nobody else knows.

00:47:32.000 You even speak in code.

00:47:34.000 You use terms like Zionist and Fed slop, like they're conjunctions and sentences, right? 0.95

00:47:39.000 You know, the secret handshake. 0.58

00:47:40.000 This stuff absolutely appeals to our vanity and our narcissism.

00:47:44.000 And these devices right here in our hands, you know, 30 years ago when you saw the tabloid in the supermarket, you might have picked it up and looked at it out of fascination.

00:47:52.000 But then when you saw the frowns of everybody in the checkout lane next to you, you just kind of smiled nervously and said, Can you believe this stuff?

00:47:57.000 And put it on the counter and walked away because you were worried about the public shame of indulging in that.

00:48:03.000 But this now takes that element away.

00:48:05.000 And we can all be anonymous and we can all do this a million times.

00:48:08.000 And now, captains of industry who would never even pick up such materials in a supermarket checkout lane 30 years ago are now seven pages deep into a Reddit forum on a break they didn't have scheduled and an appointment they had to put off because they can't tear themselves away.

00:48:23.000 And I think that this was a very painful lesson that I hope a lot of people learned.

00:48:27.000 And then I think that you're watching other people just flat out just demonstrate, frankly, that they're just demonic and satanic influences and I think ought to be treated as such moving forward.

00:48:36.000 Well, we have a couple of these examples, Steve.

00:48:41.000 Go ahead and throw up the first one that somebody sent me this, but it says, I would like to admit I drank some of the Candace Kool-Aid, and now I feel so gutted for ever believing Erica had anything to do with it.

00:48:58.000 And there's actually a second one here that I just found, if I can get it loaded here for us.

00:49:07.000 Oh, never mind.

00:49:08.000 That's the wrong one.

00:49:09.000 Somebody sent me another one, but I put it in the wrong file.

00:49:12.000 I think what you said is really good, Steve.

00:49:14.000 And we have to acknowledge a lot of people are very open to unconventional stuff.

00:49:22.000 We live in a low trust time when trust in authorities and institutions is lower, and that makes stranger ideas more appealing.

00:49:29.000 People like to do their own research and such.

00:49:31.000 But we have to acknowledge there's room for people to come back on side, there's room for people to say, I goofed it up.

00:49:41.000 I do think we need some perspective that we have.

00:49:45.000 If you're a voice, if you have a platform, you have a moral obligation to show good leadership.

00:49:51.000 And I think there will be people who will try to just sort of quietly move on from this.

00:49:57.000 They'll maybe stop talking.

00:49:58.000 Maybe they were pushing this and they'll just quietly stop talking about it or they'll just make a brief, oh, I was wrong.

00:50:05.000 And I really do think that the evidence in this case was so clear for so long and so all encompassing that.

00:50:15.000 If a person is who had a platform is going to come back, I think there has to be some expectation of not merely acknowledging that they were incorrect, but I think they have, as you say, they have to apologize and say, I was not just wrong, I made an error.

00:50:32.000 I did something, I did something, I think more, I made a moral mistake in going this far down.

00:50:38.000 And I have to try to atone for that.

00:50:41.000 And that might be I have to acknowledge I maybe am not a platform that someone can trust unless I really put in effort to undo this.

00:50:50.000 I think this has an opportunity to be another piece of Charlie's legacy.

00:50:57.000 Because I'll throw up this other one, Janelle.

00:51:00.000 I watched several of Candace's podcasts.

00:51:03.000 I was one of the people who believed Israel was somehow involved.

00:51:06.000 It was extremely convincing, and I do not blame anyone for believing it as I did.

00:51:11.000 Lesson learned to wait for actual evidence.

00:51:14.000 I will never make this mistake again.

00:51:16.000 I regret it, and I stand with Erica.

00:51:18.000 Like, these are just starting to pop up on social media right now.

00:51:23.000 And, you know, so I think if we as a movement can build up antibodies to some of this, I think that would be really positive.

00:51:32.000 And I have, people have my sympathies.

00:51:35.000 I have entertained conspiracy theories, certainly. 0.96

00:51:38.000 And why wouldn't I after COVID, after the Hunter Biden laptop, after all this crap that's been stuffed down our throats?

00:51:46.000 I totally understand that. 0.73

00:51:47.000 Sometimes, you know, giving proper scrutiny to an official narrative is the right position to take.

00:51:55.000 But there is a far difference.

00:51:56.000 There's a huge difference between that and then turning around.

00:52:00.000 And recklessly accusing innocent people of wrongdoing, of heinous, heinous, evil acts, when the evidence is right in front of you.

00:52:10.000 And so I think one of the drumbeats of this is what is the evidence?

00:52:15.000 Where is the proof?

00:52:16.000 If you can't prove it, it's not enough to go off vibes and like speculation and innuendo.

00:52:23.000 You cannot do that.

00:52:24.000 No healthy society can operate and exist in that framework.

00:52:29.000 10,000%.

00:52:30.000 Listen, Christianity is not the endless asking of questions.

00:52:33.000 In fact, the first time the enemy shows up and speaks in prophetic history, he uses the following phrase Did God really say?

00:52:40.000 That's literally his line.

00:52:42.000 That's his pickup line to Eve.

00:52:44.000 Did God really say?

00:52:46.000 Okay.

00:52:46.000 So we're not into the endless asking of questions, we're into the ceaseless seeking of answers.

00:52:52.000 All right.

00:52:52.000 So our worldview says to ask, seek, and knock to get answers.

00:52:57.000 To get answers.

00:52:58.000 I can't tell you how many emails I got to my own show.

00:53:01.000 I can't believe, Steve, you would believe the official narrative and everything else on this.

00:53:04.000 And every one of them, I tried to write them back.

00:53:06.000 Guys, there's going to be hearings.

00:53:08.000 There's going to be a trial.

00:53:09.000 We're going to see the evidence.

00:53:11.000 Why don't we just let it play itself out so that we know?

00:53:14.000 And I didn't begrudge anybody who didn't want to believe anything until it got to court.

00:53:18.000 Where I got really pretty pushy in the pushback is when now you've got alternative theories based on absolutely nothing that are just clear biblical, violating clear biblical mandates against the tormenting of widows.

00:53:31.000 And what's went on here with Erica for the last six to eight months, it's the most wicked and vile thing I've seen in my entire lifetime.

00:53:37.000 I mean, it's just literally a main line from hell itself.

00:53:40.000 It's just wicked, it's just unnatural.

00:53:43.000 Really is what it was.

00:53:44.000 Like, I felt bad being in the presence of it.

00:53:46.000 Like, it made me, it made my skin crawl.

00:53:48.000 Like, I shouldn't be listening to this.

00:53:50.000 I shouldn't be watching it.

00:53:51.000 I shouldn't be subjected to this.

00:53:52.000 I should turn away.

00:53:54.000 That's how just pure pitch black this is.

00:53:56.000 Wow.

00:53:57.000 Wow.

00:53:58.000 Really well said.

00:53:59.000 Somebody this week told me, and it was one of those one liners that kind of like, you know, stops you in your tracks, and just said, Erica Kirk is the most defamed person in human history. 0.68

00:54:14.000 She's certainly on a list.

00:54:15.000 She's certainly maybe the most famed person in the history of the English speaking world.

00:54:20.000 What's been on and for what?

00:54:21.000 For being the dutiful wife of the most high profile martyr in the history of our world.

00:54:28.000 This is the most viewed murder in the history of our world.

00:54:31.000 But there's a missing piece here I want to make sure we hit.

00:54:34.000 This all transpired, I believe, because of what happened after Charlie's murder.

00:54:39.000 And that is the most viewed proclamation of the gospel that this world has ever seen.

00:54:44.000 In all my years, in my 23 years walking with the Lord, coming out of that memorial was the first time I thought there was a real chance we might be able to unite around first principles as believers.

00:54:56.000 And so I don't think it's a coincidence at all that the enemy said, oh, snap, can't let that happen, and mobilized as fast as he could.

00:55:04.000 Like I mentioned, Don Jr. recently or earlier here on this talk, I'd be willing to bet you that Don Jr. told more people about who St. Stephen was than they've heard in the American church anywhere, Catholic or Protestant, in the last 30 years.

00:55:15.000 I'd be willing to bet you.

00:55:17.000 All right, more people came out of that with more church and more Bible than they have any singular event in the history of this hemisphere.

00:55:23.000 That was like every George Whitefield and Jonathan Edwards revival and sermon in just one afternoon.

00:55:30.000 And I don't think it's any coincidence that coming after that then is when the enemy marshaled his forces, particularly ones he had strategically placed, and let them loose right at that time to try to knife us and divide us.

00:55:40.000 And I think moving forward, two things I think we have to learn one, skepticism, we do need to remain skeptical of things.

00:55:47.000 I mean, I. As far as I know, I'm the only person that wrote two best selling books debunking the COVID narrative.

00:55:52.000 But here's the thing I didn't offer alternative theories or projections.

00:55:56.000 I interviewed witnesses.

00:55:57.000 I looked at data and facts.

00:55:59.000 I didn't just wing it, you know, because I didn't want to get sued by Anthony Fauci and everybody else.

00:56:04.000 So I used often their own data against them, their own assumptions against them.

00:56:08.000 And I think this brings me to point two there's a thing, there's cynicism, which is against a biblical worldview.

00:56:14.000 If your worldview begins with the premise that God supernaturally intervened in human history, To raise a dead man to life, then cynicism is not permitted for the believer.

00:56:22.000 But there's healthy skepticism.

00:56:23.000 There's healthy skepticism when you are in the age of the judges like we are now, when everyone does what is wise in their own eyes.

00:56:30.000 And so, what is the difference here?

00:56:31.000 How do we know?

00:56:32.000 Well, that gets me to the second point here.

00:56:36.000 When you start purporting things that just don't line up with common sense, no, no, I don't think Nancy 42157, if that's even a real person, I don't think you care more about Charlie and what happened to him than his wife.

00:56:48.000 No, I don't.

00:56:49.000 Or his mom or his dad.

00:56:51.000 No, I don't.

00:56:52.000 I don't think you do.

00:56:53.000 And no, I don't think Candace Owens thinks and cares more about Tyler Robinson's fate and his potential innocence than every single member of his family and his high profile defense team.

00:57:03.000 No, I don't.

00:57:05.000 And I think when you're somebody like Sean Ryan and you're asking questions of somebody like this a week before this proceeding, I think you need to ask questions like that like, hey, has the defense called you up?

00:57:13.000 Have they shown any interest in what you have to say?

00:57:16.000 Have you gone to Utah to offer, you know, your proffer up your results? 0.99

00:57:19.000 Rather than just sitting there and providing affirmative platforms like this for just absolute raw sewage garbage. 0.85

00:57:26.000 And I think when we are defying clear common sense, when you think you care more about the people involved in this story than the people involved in the story, there's a pretty good, it's pretty highly likely that you're engaged in some form of idolatry.

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01:00:02.000 The team is sending me so many of these.

01:00:04.000 There is literally dozens of these types of messages of people basically saying, I was wrong.

01:00:11.000 I used to be into this.

01:00:12.000 Now I'm not.

01:00:14.000 It's so goofy to see this that Sean Strickland is apologizing for it.

01:00:18.000 Yeah, Sean Strickland.

01:00:19.000 He's an MMA fighter.

01:00:21.000 Very much a. 1.00

01:00:22.000 Hates Jewish people. 0.99

01:00:23.000 Yeah, very much an out there figure in a lot of ways. 1.00

01:00:26.000 I don't even think he'd disagree.

01:00:28.000 And, like, he's seeing the light before a lot of people who ought to know better, I will say.

01:00:35.000 And that's what pains me so much about this.

01:00:38.000 There's always going to be people who believe weird things.

01:00:41.000 We saw that during COVID.

01:00:42.000 It wasn't enough to say.

01:00:44.000 Oh, obviously, they're fibbing to us about this or that.

01:00:47.000 You got really strange stuff about the virus being.

01:00:52.000 I think probably the strangest one I ever heard was that it was a theory that it was all snake venom.

01:00:56.000 And you're always going to have that.

01:01:00.000 But people who have been in media long enough, who have been around news stories long enough, should be able to put two and two together that the evidence in this case adds up almost to the point where this could be a clinic you would put on.

01:01:17.000 In, like, a criminal justice laboratory to show all the different types of evidence that can be available in a case.

01:01:23.000 Oh, here's your DNA evidence.

01:01:25.000 Here's your non DNA forensic evidence.

01:01:27.000 Here's your witness testimony.

01:01:30.000 You have basically every single piece of evidence that could be obtained exists.

01:01:36.000 And if someone is going to take all of that and say, I reject all of it, I just think it's all fake, I'm not going to explain to you how it was faked, I'm just going to say it, and I'm going to assert another completely wild theory that's mutually exclusive.

01:01:48.000 With the three other theories that I'm going to run with, none of which have any evidence, that person is acting with ill will.

01:01:55.000 That person is willfully choosing to believe something that is not true because it'll get them attention, it'll get them views, it'll get them clicks, it'll get them money, it will allow them to hurt other people.

01:02:07.000 So we have a new theory.

01:02:08.000 That's not any different.

01:02:09.000 Pardon me, I'm sorry.

01:02:10.000 Go ahead, Andrew.

01:02:11.000 Nope, finish your thought, please, Steve.

01:02:13.000 I was just going to say, Blake, that the irony of everything you just said is those same people would laugh and mock those who virtue signaled with their Vax cards, the Ukraine flags, their masks in their bios.

01:02:23.000 They're just the other side of the exact same coin as what you just described.

01:02:26.000 They're actually closer together.

01:02:28.000 It really is horseshoe theory.

01:02:29.000 They're way closer together than I think they realize.

01:02:32.000 So we have this new video.

01:02:33.000 I totally agree with that, by the way.

01:02:35.000 I think the team is loading it right now from Benny Johnson.

01:02:38.000 He also had a chance to look at this enhanced video.

01:02:43.000 We're getting more and more details here.

01:02:47.000 He said, every moment, every movement of Tyler Robinson that day captured in full quality HD, zoomed in some footage in 4K, tracking all his movements.

01:02:58.000 You can see crystal clear Tyler Robinson's face.

01:03:02.000 The license plate number on his vehicle.

01:03:05.000 That was another point of controversy with some of this, the Dodge Charger.

01:03:11.000 There was apparently one of the people in the houses with the ring camera said they thought it was a bald person with three people, but instantly we sort of knew in the whole scheme of all the mounting evidence that it was probably just an eyewitness kind of got confused about it because the ring camera had the actual stuff.

01:03:27.000 Anyway, so you can see the license plate on the vehicle, details on his clothing.

01:03:34.000 And his actions on the rooftop, and you can time every horrifying detail to the minute Charlie Kirk was murdered.

01:03:41.000 What the public couldn't see was the emotion in the courtroom Charlie's family sobbing uncontrollably, Erica in Mrs. Kirk's senior's arms, Charlie's father comforting them.

01:03:52.000 Just feet away sat a pale, lifeless, emaciated Tyler Robinson.

01:03:56.000 I'm reading Benny's words, who stared at the floor with no remorse as he listened to the weeping.

01:04:02.000 He says Robinson has never once looked at Erica this entire trial.

01:04:09.000 The entire courtroom gassed when the video was over.

01:04:13.000 Eventually, this footage will be released.

01:04:15.000 It was really tough to relive that day in such gruesome detail.

01:04:19.000 This case is overwhelming.

01:04:20.000 Please pray for a speedy trial. 0.99

01:04:23.000 And to all the tormentors of the Kirk family, you can go to hell where you belong. 0.86

01:04:30.000 It's really frustrating, actually, that they didn't release this footage to the public.

01:04:36.000 We will get it eventually.

01:04:38.000 They can delay this.

01:04:39.000 They can stop it.

01:04:40.000 I mean, it's good that.

01:04:41.000 Jeffrey Nyman was successful in getting this viewed within the court.

01:04:47.000 Erica and her family completely deserve to see this.

01:04:51.000 And I think Jeff basically said, for the sake of processing this, when he was making his comments to the judge, he said they deserve to see this.

01:05:01.000 Why are we here if this isn't to actually see the evidence?

01:05:06.000 And he said they deserve this so that they can process this moment properly.

01:05:12.000 I'm so heartbroken for them that they had to see that it even existed.

01:05:22.000 But I'm grateful that they got to rip the band aid, see it, and I think it's so important for processing this.

01:05:30.000 And so, is there anything specific in that video?

01:05:36.000 Oh, I'm trying to figure out if Jack's going to be joining us in just a second.

01:05:42.000 He did see the video himself.

01:05:47.000 All right.

01:05:50.000 Steve, you are a very thoughtful man, and you understand the difference between pragmatism and pure idealism, something you and I have talked about when it comes to politics.

01:06:06.000 If we're going to rebuild this coalition the way Charlie was doing it, what needs to happen next?

01:06:16.000 First, I would urge everyone within the sound of our voices to pray that the judge reconsiders.

01:06:20.000 Putting this off till September 1st.

01:06:22.000 There's no reason why this couldn't be done on August 1st.

01:06:24.000 It's still almost four weeks, three and a half weeks until then.

01:06:31.000 Because I think the sooner that we can get something definitive on this and some closure for the family, but then also for us as a movement, the sooner we can go about trying to answer these questions.

01:06:44.000 Because I think we're going to have a hard time answering that question until there's a more definitive outlook on the outcome of this case.

01:06:52.000 Then we'll just see you again in two months.

01:06:54.000 I think that's a wild answer you just gave, Steve.

01:06:57.000 That's a wild answer.

01:06:58.000 Because I agree with you that the.

01:07:01.000 The fate of the movement that Charlie cared so much about, that he was so instrumental in building, is directly tied to closure and his assassination trial.

01:07:15.000 Like, that's a wild thing to just even wrap your head around.

01:07:20.000 Please, I didn't mean to cut you off, but I, it's no, no, but yeah, because it's what's opened up the fissure of what he was holding together, um, is his death and the aftermath of it.

01:07:30.000 And, um, I think the certainty of, of, of, What caused that death, and then the outcome for Tyler Robbins and the one who committed to that cause.

01:07:39.000 I think that's the first step in letting a lot of people.

01:07:43.000 You can already see just from the volume of notes you guys are getting in right now as an organization, as a show, the amount of people who are like coming in from like a fog, you know, from like a spiritual malaise that's clearing up now.

01:07:56.000 Yeah.

01:07:57.000 Yeah.

01:07:57.000 That's a great analogy.

01:07:58.000 Yeah.

01:07:58.000 Like a spell has been broken here, right?

01:08:01.000 And so I think that the spellcasters have got to be confronted.

01:08:05.000 I think the spellcasters, you got to find out who did so maliciously.

01:08:09.000 You know, one of my favorite lines from Augustine is, There are many sheep without, but many wolves within.

01:08:15.000 And I think one of the things that we've done to Charlie posthumously, and I saw this after when Reagan passed away as well, that you saw the more amicable Reagan.

01:08:25.000 You didn't see the rendezvous with destiny Reagan.

01:08:27.000 They didn't show a lot of those clips.

01:08:29.000 This idea that the guy went from, you know, a lifeguard to president of the United States, just dropping quippy one liners all the way.

01:08:37.000 You know, and being not a threat to any evil in the world whatsoever.

01:08:41.000 And so there's this idea that Charlie was just this kind of very gracious host of these forums on these campuses and wasn't a warrior.

01:08:51.000 He was fierce.

01:08:51.000 He wasn't a general.

01:08:52.000 He wasn't fierce, right?

01:08:54.000 And ruthless when he had to be.

01:08:56.000 Totally.

01:08:56.000 Steve, we've got Jack.

01:08:58.000 Jack, we just got a few moments here.

01:09:01.000 I know we're wrestling with the tech there.

01:09:03.000 Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily, was there today.

01:09:07.000 Jack, you.

01:09:09.000 We're in the courtroom for this viewing of this video, the enhanced video.

01:09:17.000 Tell us what you saw.

01:09:19.000 Look, guys, I'm not going to mince words, all right?

01:09:24.000 I'm going to be blunt because it deserves it.

01:09:29.000 And I'm just going to say what it was.

01:09:34.000 You see him shooting Charlie, you see him executing Charlie.

01:09:41.000 You see him take the shot.

01:09:43.000 And so you've seen the video.

01:09:46.000 And Blake, I know you were there, man.

01:09:48.000 And it was like watching Charlie die all over again, seeing this video.

01:09:55.000 This is the most damning thing I've seen all week for Tyler Robinson.

01:10:03.000 With the zoom in, it just changes everything.

01:10:06.000 It's like watching a completely different video.

01:10:09.000 Because the one that's zoomed out, you can't even see anything.

01:10:11.000 This one, he walks up.

01:10:14.000 He, it's, I mean, it's just like the officer said earlier in the, I guess it was day one, that he walks up over the guardrail, goes down, and you could see him kind of working on something.

01:10:26.000 And it's, you know, I believe that's when he was assembling the rifle.

01:10:30.000 He then stands up.

01:10:31.000 He runs very quickly across the gravel roof to the edge.

01:10:37.000 And then when he gets to the edge, you see him go down and he's in the prone position.

01:10:45.000 And it's, you know, they have this clock, like the timestamp that's up.

01:10:52.000 And it's 1220, I think it's 1221, 1222 when he first gets there.

01:10:57.000 And I'm just sitting there like.

01:11:00.000 Stop the clock.

01:11:01.000 Like, don't, like, like trying to will time to stop.

01:11:05.000 Like, don't get to 12 23.

01:11:07.000 Like, just don't get to 12 23.

01:11:12.000 And he gets to 12 23, and you see him take the shot, and he gets back up, and then he, you know, he runs across, and you've seen the end of it already where he, you know, makes the jump, but it's all there.

01:11:30.000 It's all there.

01:11:32.000 It's on video.

01:11:34.000 Um, it all lines up, and I got very, very angry.

01:11:41.000 Um, watching this video in court, I was gripping the seat, I think I almost broke my rosary.

01:11:51.000 I just and to know that Erica and Charlie's parents had to watch this with Tyler, he was sitting right there, and he wouldn't even look.

01:12:03.000 By the way, he wouldn't even look.

01:12:05.000 And I had someone told me his own monitor was off, he wouldn't even look.

01:12:09.000 At the video as it was being played, of what he did.

01:12:16.000 And the fact that he was so close to us, it is an unspeakable evil.

01:12:27.000 Since seeing the original video, this is the worst thing I've seen.

01:12:31.000 This is the worst thing I've seen.

01:12:34.000 Other than the actual video of the gunshot itself connecting, that.

01:12:42.000 It was very hard to watch.

01:12:46.000 Yeah, it was a shockwave across the entire crowd.

01:12:51.000 And by the way, the video, so you could see him walking up too.

01:12:56.000 And the video that we can see, and I need to explain this to everybody who, by the way, sorry, I know I'm jumping around.

01:13:03.000 I'm a little flustered, but the video that we see played on that monitor is so much more clear.

01:13:12.000 Than the video that's on the live stream.

01:13:13.000 When you see him walking around, it's not just a blurry guy or a pixelated guy.

01:13:17.000 It's Tyler Robinson.

01:13:19.000 It's just very obviously when he's there in the red shirt and shorts and he comes back in all black, it's still the same guy.

01:13:25.000 It's just obviously him.

01:13:26.000 There's no question about it.

01:13:28.000 It's so crystal clear.

01:13:29.000 And every single one of these videos needs to be released publicly in its raw form so that everyone can see that.

01:13:38.000 I understand certain things they're holding back until trial.

01:13:42.000 I get all that, right?

01:13:43.000 But Everyone needs to understand it's on video.

01:13:47.000 Okay.

01:13:47.000 It's on video.

01:13:49.000 It is him.

01:13:51.000 Benny Johnson came by today and he hadn't been there early in the week.

01:13:54.000 And he said he was stunned because he's been watching the live stream.

01:13:57.000 I'm not watching the live stream.

01:14:00.000 And he said he was stunned at how much better the video quality is when you're sitting there.

01:14:04.000 And I guess, you know, compression and it's live stream, the quality, whatever.

01:14:08.000 We all know the tech, but it's just, it's very obviously him walking up to that roof.

01:14:17.000 And then to know and see.

01:14:19.000 I mean, we all know what happened, but to see it, I mean, it's just playing over and over again in my head.

01:14:28.000 Thank you for sharing that.

01:14:30.000 And again, my thoughts instantly go to Erica and Kathy and Rob having to see the very moment that Charlie's life was robbed from him.

01:14:42.000 You said, just to be clear, you said that in this enhanced video, you can see him taking the shot.

01:14:49.000 In the prone position, you see him taking the shot.

01:14:53.000 And I just, I asked just because I'm sure there's going to be questions about it.

01:14:58.000 Was there any explanation of how the video was enhanced?

01:15:02.000 It's just a simple zoom in.

01:15:04.000 It's not anything other than that.

01:15:06.000 It's just literally just zoomed in.

01:15:09.000 It's like, you know, you know how when he first, when we didn't know who Tyler Robinson was and they put out that first video of him dropping off the, you know, the awning, I guess, of the Losey building.

01:15:23.000 It's, yeah, it's just that it's like the, I guess the five minutes or so prior to that.

01:15:31.000 So it looks pretty similar to that in terms of quality.

01:15:36.000 It's just that same, it's just a zoom in process.

01:15:39.000 I hear you.

01:15:41.000 It doesn't look like there's any AI upscaling or any of that stuff.

01:15:45.000 It literally just looks like a zoom in.

01:15:47.000 So they took that wide screen because, of course, looking at everything, but it's just a zoom in.

01:15:52.000 It's just a zoom in.

01:15:56.000 And it's one of the worst things.

01:15:57.000 So glad we got the tech figured out.

01:15:59.000 For you to tell us that because it was really important.

01:16:02.000 And thank you for being there on the ground with the Kirk family and the whole team being a support.

01:16:09.000 And Steve Dace has been with us all hour.

01:16:12.000 Steve, thank you as well for joining us.

01:16:16.000 And I just want to reiterate what you meant to Charlie.

01:16:19.000 And he was always a big Steve Dace fan.

01:16:22.000 And he made me one as well.

01:16:27.000 And now I get to sort of.

01:16:29.000 Experienced that here on the show directly, and it's a total blessing, man.

01:16:33.000 And we just appreciate you, and you're a good man, and you're a godly man.

01:16:38.000 So thank you for everything.

01:16:40.000 Gentlemen, we got to wrap it up here.

01:16:42.000 And for Real America's Voice, thank you for taking this recap special all week long to honor our friend and to do our part as we look for and seek justice for Charlie.

01:16:54.000 And I think it's a really important week.

01:16:56.000 We're going to look back on it and think of it as a really, really important week.

01:16:59.000 And you all have been an important part of that.

01:17:01.000 So, thank you to the audience.

01:17:03.000 We'll see you on Monday.

01:17:09.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 10, 2026

Tyler Robinson Hearing: The Final Wrap-Up

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