00:00:58.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:06.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:17.000So, you know, you know, I did, I was, I was at Guantanamo.
00:02:20.000You know, I'm familiar with the interrogations there.
00:02:22.000My question for Charlie Kirk is, how much money do you donate on the side to Media Matters to get them to promote this show so heavily every day?
00:02:47.000Unlike, you know, some of these other outlets, they're like, this is what Charlie said.
00:02:49.000I was like, it's actually pretty accurate.
00:02:50.000And like, you're right, because you get some people, they kind of divide up what you say and you're like, well, I was, no, I was making a broader point or, you know, whatever the context.
00:03:48.000I mean, in World War II, as you know, the Soviet Union, when they divided up Poland, they butchered the NKVD, The military and secret police of the Soviet Union went in and murdered 22,000 Polish officers.
00:04:07.000And the Germans, then, when they uncovered the graves, they tried to publicize that.
00:04:14.000And in the United States, FDR went around and squashed Polish-American radio stations from beaming the truth because he thought it would hurt the war effort.
00:04:24.000We didn't find out the actual perpetrators in the common culture until the 1960s.
00:04:30.000So that's a clip from American thought leaders hosted by the great Jan Yakelek and the Epoch Times.
00:04:37.000And so the way that he's prefaced the question is: we're seeing all this news every day of the war effort and yes, the war in Ukraine, but it's even a broader topic of wars and the way they're covering it.
00:04:51.000Cultural war, whatever you want to call it.
00:04:53.000And it's this idea that when the U.S. government decides to kind of put their foot on the pedal of supporting one side or another, that they will use the organs of the state.
00:05:05.000They'll use their relationships with media.
00:05:07.000They'll use whatever levers of power that they can find to be able to wash away sort of these sins of anyone that they view as their allies in order to demonize the people that are against.
00:05:20.000So what he's talking about there is, and I say this as a guy who's Polish-American, that that was the Katyn massacre.
00:05:27.000So the cotton forest early on before the United States entered the war, early about, actually we're coming up on the anniversary of it.
00:05:35.000It was April 1940, right after the Soviet Union, a couple months after the Soviet Union had carved up their half of Poland.
00:05:41.000They went in, they took up all the intelligentsia of Poland, the leaders, the thought leaders, the generals, the admirals, exported them, essentially deported them, routed them up, deported them into Russia, and then systematically slaughtered every single one of them, killed them all in the forest, mass graves, 22,000.
00:06:02.000In fact, one of them, and so this was prior to the KGB, there was this organization called the NKVD, which is sort of the World War II era equivalent of the KGB, directed directly from Stalin.
00:06:13.000And there was actually one executioner, Vasily Bolcezyk, and it's recorded, or at least reported, that he was personally responsible for killing 7,000 people in that forest.
00:06:27.000But this created a huge problem years later because when Operation Barbarossa comes through, the Germans declare war on the Soviet Union.
00:06:36.000The Nazi army is the one, the Wehrmacht, is coming through Poland.
00:06:39.000They get to this forest at this point when they're coming through Russia and they find this huge mass grave of Poles.
00:06:45.000And of course, the Nazis are like, hey, this is a war crime we didn't do for once, right?
00:06:50.000You know, because they've got Auschwitz and everything is set up all unspeakable backfields in Poland.
00:06:56.000And they said, wait a minute, we didn't do this one.
00:06:59.000And they realize that it's just as the Poles have been saying, and the Poles are saying this all along, the same way the Polish had intelligence officers inside Auschwitz sending out intelligence reports the entire time saying what was going on in there, the truth of what was going on in there.
00:07:14.000And so, but it wasn't being heard, right?
00:07:16.000And it wasn't being heard because they said it was Polish.
00:07:18.000And then when it came to this massacre, well, it wasn't heard because this, oh, well, no, no, no, the Soviet Union are the good guys.
00:07:29.000Even though the Poles are saying, look, no, no, no, no, you understand from our perspective, we hate both of them, right?
00:07:34.000You know, we're the ones who are called middle here, right?
00:07:36.000So it doesn't make you, you know, pro-German to say this is just actually true because it was committed by the Soviets.
00:07:42.000Years and years and years later, finally, the truth came out and it was later admitted to.
00:07:47.000There's actually a lot of Polish Americans, civic groups, and community groups here in the United States will come together and put together memorials and monuments to this massacre because it's so uncovered and it's just so unknown throughout most of the Western world and throughout most of Europe that this was even done because the propaganda all the way back in the 1940s was so strong in terms of covering this up.
00:08:10.000And so when I look at mainstream media today and when I see these massive efforts and these huge cultural pushes domestically, when I see these foreign policy things going on around the world, you know, I always say we have to take this with a healthy dose of skepticism when the mainstream media and the uniparty is coming to you and saying, you have to believe this.
00:08:31.000You have to respond to this immediately rather than stepping back and saying, well, hold on, let's try to figure out.
00:08:37.000And that's, you know, whether it goes from one of these, you know, remember the mostly peaceful riots, mostly peaceful protests that were actually riots.
00:08:44.000I go out to Chaz in 2020 and I say, this thing isn't peaceful.
00:08:47.000You guys are showing up for five minutes.
00:08:49.000I remember Chaz was the exact same way.
00:09:02.000It's the same way in terms of coverage.
00:09:04.000And that's what I'm talking about here because you would go in the daytime and the MSM would, you know, just like here, set up the lights, set up these beautiful cameras, and they do a report and say, look how peaceful it is.
00:09:14.000And people are hanging out and there's free drugs and free love.
00:09:17.000And Mayor Jenny Durkin, former Mayor Jenny Durkin of Seattle, says, oh, it's this perfect, you know, this summer of love.
00:10:01.000And, you know, speaking as a Christian, obviously, I'm someone who is very supportive of such activity, especially in places like Times Square.
00:10:08.000They assaulted the street preacher in Chaz.
00:10:12.000They were choking him out and they drug him out of Chaz by his arms and feet.
00:10:17.000Mainstream media never showed any of that because to them it's a narrative industrial complex is what it is.
00:10:23.000I think VDH and your kind of phenomenal telling that story, Jack, is really important for people to take pause.
00:10:29.000Sometimes it's not what you're being told.
00:10:30.000And there is a black propaganda campaign that has been happening on a lot of these different issues.
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00:13:29.000But then it's interesting because when he mentions it, this is the one thing that he talks about that nobody seems to pay attention to.
00:13:34.000And so I'm not trying to diminish that in any way, but what I'm saying is, is there's always massive, horrific suffering going on in the world.
00:13:42.000And if the media isn't talking about it, we don't know about it.
00:15:13.000That's just good practice because if you were in the crosshairs, they are going to find a way to pin something on the bottom of the bottom.
00:15:18.000And that was one thing I think Flynn admits he would have done differently.
00:16:02.000He goes to the FBI, James Baker, the general counsel, and he says to him, I've uncovered information about a plot between the Trump campaign and Russia, and specifically this Trump organization.
00:16:57.000The Durham thing really seems to be heating up.
00:16:59.000Like, I'm just going to throw it out there.
00:17:02.000If you're going to lie to the FBI, don't do it in a text message that's recoverable, that can show up in a court record, because guess what?
00:17:09.000That's just what happened to you, Michael Sussman.
00:17:12.000You just got caught, and that's a headshot.
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00:18:32.000Yeah, it's kind of like overly detailed.
00:18:34.000Yeah, like, why do you have to explain all this stuff to even get an understanding of who he is?
00:18:37.000But I want to put two things into context for people on this.
00:18:41.000Number one, the fact that this is even happening at all, the fact that this is even going to court, that it's going to be put, what is being put before a judge, that he will see a trial, right?
00:18:53.000That is something that if you understand the context of where we are at this point in the movie, right?
00:18:59.000To be able to get something like this is a monumental Herculean task because you've clearly got massive, massive exigencies, the entire organic state against you.
00:19:11.000The entire national security state, the entire apparatus of that is against this going through, which is the flip side of Mueller, who had all the resources and all the support in the world from every institution in America.
00:19:24.000So the fact that you've got now a counter force, hopefully, and this, you know, this is where, and I, I, you know, obviously people are very critical of Bill Barr, but I think one of his reasons for appointing Durham, and he did, right?
00:19:36.000We have to point that out, is that he wanted there to be this idea of a counterbalance to Mueller.
00:19:44.000Let's play Cut 61, latest Durham filing, play cut 61.
00:19:49.000We know that a text message may be the answer special counsel John Durham was looking for after all.
00:19:55.000He claims a newly released text proves former Clinton campaign attorney Michael Sussman was untruthful to the FBI.
00:20:03.000Sussman pleaded not guilty to lying to the FBI, specifically to then FBI general counsel James Baker during a September 2016 face-to-face meeting.
00:20:12.000Durham claims that Sussman brought Baker the information he knew was suspect about Donald Trump's campaign, communicating with a Kremlin-connected bank.
00:20:32.000It was a false operation from the start, the start, that Michael Sussman himself played a role in, as well as the tech billionaire Rodney Jaffa.
00:20:54.000I have something time-sensitive and sensitive I need to discuss.
00:20:57.000Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow?
00:21:00.000I'm coming on my own, not on behalf of a client or company.
00:21:04.000Want to help the Bureau thanks the reason that this may advance the ball for the prosecution in a meaningful way is it's almost like a transcript.
00:21:15.000It's a written statement by the person who is accused of making a false statement to the FBI, which contains the essence of what the government says the deception is.
00:23:06.000Even more so than I think we even as Republicans and conservatives realize.
00:23:10.000I've long said that in my mind, right, the way that I've always viewed it going down is like Hillary knew that the investigation of her, because keep in mind, that's the context, right?
00:23:22.000That her emails were investigation, under investigation, there was the server, then the Wiener laptop gets found out in like the last minutes of the election, the investigation gets reopened.
00:23:32.000And so I always kind of viewed it as something like her sitting there and saying something along the lines of, well, they're putting me under investigation.
00:23:42.000I want to put him under investigation.
00:23:44.000And so that there would be, instead of saying, instead of like winning the election, we're not going to win the election in Wisconsin.
00:24:12.000But before all of this, he was an anti-Clinton operative in Arkansas, and he wrote the original book about Troopergate, when Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas and Hillary Clinton was the first lady of Arkansas and the way that they used the corruption of the state trooper program there in Arkansas for their own personal interest.
00:24:56.000Yeah, massive landslide victory and election going into, so the fourth election, going into a fifth term for Viktor Orban, the Fidej Party, which is this populist, the nationalist populist party, really one of the leading nationalist populist parties in Europe.
00:25:13.000We have another one in Poland called Law and Justice.
00:25:17.000And what he's done in this election, so number one, every European pollster has now just been made a fool because they kept saying this is a close election.
00:26:05.000They're saying it's over him trying to find neutrality between Russia-Ukraine.
00:26:10.000The fact that obviously Hungary, like many European nations, gets the majority of their gas or a huge chunk of their gas from Russia, from this gas prom monopoly.
00:26:18.000A lot of this stuff, by the way, is about breaking the gas prom monopoly, as I know you know.
00:26:30.000He stands for sovereign national identity for his people and standing up for a new type of conservatism, Charlie, where it's not about tax cuts for corporations, right?
00:26:42.000It's this idea of taking the smallest unit possible, the family, as well as direct subsidies for family creation.
00:26:51.000And actually, when I was at One American News, I had the opportunity to interview the Minister of Health and Families, who is now the president of Hungary, Kalin Novak, on this and on this policy right when it was being put into place.
00:27:04.000So the idea is, you know, China had the one-child policy, right?
00:27:30.000When you look across the West, the birth rates are down.
00:27:33.000And so the bean counters in the bureaucracies of all of the EU, of Brussels, of Washington, D.C., they look at this and they say, hey, we've got a population problem.
00:27:40.000What happens when this population bomb goes off?
00:27:42.000And most countries said, well, we want mass immigration.
00:28:09.000And so what Hungary is doing is turning around and say, no, no, no, we don't want mass immigration.
00:28:13.000We think that's destabilizing for our country.
00:28:15.000We think it's destabilizing for our culture.
00:28:17.000What we're going to try to do, and it might be slower, it might not be an easy button.
00:28:20.000It might be harder, but we think it's going to be better for us and for our people in the long run to increase and grow and strengthen our families here of the people who live here now, who speak our language, who share our history, who share our values, and then increase the number of that through, yes, the power of the federal government by creating new government structures that actually support family formation.
00:28:43.000And even they went into and did studies to understand what it is that prevents people from attaining family formation.
00:28:50.000So homeownership is something that they're making credits for.
00:29:11.000They're also looking in terms of homeownership.
00:29:13.000And they're even looking in terms of being able to purchase a larger vehicle, right?
00:29:17.000So your typical four-seat vehicle, obviously, is not going to be large enough for a larger family.
00:29:22.000That is a huge economic constraint for a lot of families out there.
00:29:25.000And we're talking about Hungary, but obviously you could apply all of that to the United States of America, too, because a lot of this is driven from economy.
00:29:32.000And so, you know, not that I would ever criticize the late, great Andrew Breitbart, but he had that wonderful, incredible maxim that politics is downstream from culture.
00:29:44.000And if I would be so bold as to add something onto that, I would say that's true 100%, but also that culture is downstream from economics.
00:30:08.000I think this is the formula that is going to resonate with so many people because you're right in the sense that, like we were saying before, like, hey, aren't those kind of sort of some left-wing kind of beliefs that, you know, that you do need to help people economically.
00:30:21.000Well, I'm not saying that it's left-wing, but believing everything comes back to economics is definitely Marxist.
00:30:26.000Well, I wouldn't say that everything comes back to economics, but I do think that it's something that the right has for a long time kind of eschewed this idea that there should be a public discussion of economics.
00:30:37.000Well, but it's also, I mean, Marx believed that materialism or material is the way to understand the human condition.
00:31:36.000So that's what gives you this, you know, choose your own morality.
00:31:39.000Which is what you got with his book, Beyond Good and Evil.
00:31:42.000Well, and then I was even going to say, take it to current events.
00:31:44.000This is how you can get a situation with KBJ, and that Dick Durbin is out there right now saying, you know, all of this is a very important thing.
00:31:51.000If you choose to say, if you make your decision, right?
00:31:54.000Well, you mean like if I decide to buy an AR-15, like that's a decision, right?
00:32:00.000Oh, actually, by the way, that's actually a decision that's protected and enshrined in constitutional law.
00:32:07.000But no, no, no, we can say everything we want about that decision.
00:32:09.000But no, what it really is, is this, to go back to the Marxist formulation, it's this idea that there are two classes of societies: there's an oppressor class and oppressed class.
00:32:19.000And that when a member of the oppressed class breaks a law that's been written by the oppressor class, well, it's not really their fault because they're merely responding to their own internalized oppression, whether it be internalized or externalized.
00:32:32.000And they're actually victims of the broader social problems that we have as a country.
00:32:37.000And so their crime should be lessened because they are victims themselves in the first instance of society.
00:32:46.000And it seems completely backwards to anybody who ascribes to a traditional moral value system.
00:32:52.000But if you take away that traditional moral value system from the public square, i.e., God, right?
00:32:58.000And this is what you and I were talking about on the break: this idea that, you know, there's people who come in and even Christians, you hear this, they take the Old Testament and act as if it doesn't matter.
00:33:07.000And then they take the New Testament not as a fulfillment and a companion to the Old Testament, but as if as if, you know, it came out so the Old Testament doesn't matter anymore.