00:00:00.000Jack Pesobic joins me in this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show as we talk to Carrie Lake, who's going to be the nominee for governor for the Republican Party in Arizona.
00:00:08.000Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:41.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:49.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:14.000You know, I noticed that people might be asking, why are there only two hot sauce bottles here last night when last night there were three?
00:01:40.000So, and people may not have noticed this, that I did have my In-N-Out burger when Tyler was having one of his episodes last night here on the program.
00:02:53.000Mark said, Charlie, I was watching your live stream last night when things started to look bleak and the memory of 2020 was enveloping us all.
00:03:01.000You had the insight, courage, and guts to ask, what the heck is happening?
00:03:50.000So if you have 800, you can model off of that.
00:03:53.000And so, and I said, Charlie, look, I'm with you if the data is there.
00:03:57.000And then as I was collecting the data, guess what?
00:04:00.000Charlie's model held up the entire night.
00:04:03.000Now we're seeing it, and I called it the Maricopa Pincer movement because as we've seen, and I said that on air last night before I went to bed and even when I woke up this morning, we've now seen every single county, and this was the program that you very first heard that on last night's live stream, and it was on RAV, and it was fantastic that they had us there.
00:04:22.000Every single county flipped for Carrie Lake.
00:04:24.000We were the first people to say that, except for Maricopa.
00:05:02.000These are people that have so little faith in the election system that they drove to a vote processing center and made sure a human being took their ballot.
00:05:11.000That doesn't be a traditional Republican establishment voter.
00:05:15.000No, no, that's a Trump voter through and through.
00:05:17.000That's someone saying, I'm not dealing with the Sharpies.
00:05:32.000I mean, my wife told me, I think it's a receipt or some sort of you get some sort of portal where you can go and track your ballot from that point forward, something like that.
00:05:48.000And again, the people at the New York Times and all these experts that called the race for Karen Taylor Robeson basically last night too early.
00:06:13.000We're all of a sudden, and no one knew that number.
00:06:16.000No, no, I'm going to disagree with you on that one because there was one person who accurately predicted what that number was going to be with almost freakish mathematical precision.
00:06:37.000And I'm like, does Charlie have some kind of crystal ball or like a phone to the future where somebody's calling him and telling him that this is what the number is going to be?
00:06:47.000And it's, because it wasn't that you were, you know, in the ballpark.
00:07:04.000I don't even know how else to put that.
00:07:06.000Yeah, it might have been the Holy Spirit.
00:07:07.000It was also just looking at the numbers.
00:07:08.000And here is the other thing that was so important is that in order for all of that to be true and people were freaking out, here's what also had to be true, that there was a massive Republican turnout in every state of the country except Arizona.
00:08:02.000Majority of whom were wearing MAGA hats is what we're told.
00:08:04.000If you didn't have Charlie Kirk, if you didn't have freedom at charliekirk.com, if you weren't living here, if we didn't have Tyler being able to explain all this to us, give us the framing, right?
00:08:13.000Folks, there's some people who just sit and these pundits, what they do it, and they hit refresh in the New York Times.
00:08:23.000We had people who were Arizona election experts going county by county.
00:08:28.000We had the great Richard Barris explaining to us what he saw in the field while he was polling.
00:08:33.000That's why, at the end of the day, we were able to come out on top of this and everybody else got it wrong because they weren't seeing what we were seeing because they didn't do the work.
00:09:02.000And so that's the thing that we must understand, right?
00:09:05.000The issue back in 2020 is that there were ballots that were likely trafficked and that were legit ballots that were then laundered through the system.
00:09:14.000We called it the Ozark election from the very beginning because the numbers weren't adding up and we were vindicated by Greg Phillips and Katherine Engelbrecht and Dinesh D'Souza with 2,000 mules.
00:09:25.000So James, even if there is some shenanigans in the tabulation, there is a process where we could, if there is a final canvas where the ballots themselves that were handed in by ultra MAGA folks will end up be counted.
00:09:39.000And Greg Phillips, by the way, he was posting all last night his analysis of the race, which lined up very similar to what we were saying, even though I don't know, were you talking to him during those?
00:09:58.000But it's a point that we want to try to extrapolate a little bit, which is that there is a story that the media is not telling you that is actually presents a very different picture.
00:10:09.000Okay, so I do want to talk about Kansas as well, Jack, in the next segment.
00:10:21.000I know of at least 12 people that are poll watchers right now that are actually watching the county counting happening right now.
00:10:29.000So I know that might not put you totally at ease, but the last tranche are 125,000, what we will call ultra-mAGA ballots that will be eventually counted.
00:10:40.000Okay, there's 163,000 ballots, I'm sorry, outstanding, of which I think Carrie Lake will win 70 to 80% of those 163,000 ballots outstanding.
00:10:53.000And she's only got one county left to win.
00:10:56.000Yeah, and just so we're clear, even if Carrie Lake breaks even on the remaining ballots, she still wins.
00:11:03.000And that also with all the other rules that are only going to go up.
00:11:33.000The media is carrying the results from the Kansas ballot referendum as if Kansas does not want to outlaw abortion and they say they want to keep abortion legal.
00:12:05.000Regulation of abortions is Section 22.
00:12:09.000Because Kansans value both women and children, the Constitution of the state of Kansas does not require government funding of abortion and does not create or secure a right to abortion.
00:12:20.000To the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States, the people through their elected state representatives and state senators may pass laws regarding abortion, including but not limited to laws that account for circumstances of pregnancy resulting from rape or incest or circumstances of necessity to save the life of the mother.
00:12:58.000So, there is an explanatory statement, and it says a vote for the value-them both amendment would affirm there is no Kansas constitutional right to abortion.
00:13:09.000A vote against the amendment would make no changes to the Constitution of the city of Kansas.
00:13:13.000But the problem is, which one is it then?
00:13:15.000It doesn't actually say that, it just says yes or no.
00:13:18.000So, it doesn't even necessarily say for or against in the explanatory statement.
00:13:27.000And even, well, just to back you up on that, even the left-wing Guardian, which is, I mean, one of the most pro-choice outlooks you could find says the language on the Kansas abortion ballot is so confusing.
00:15:52.000You rarely see this kind of focus and commitment.
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00:17:28.000And they want to vote for leaders who will go in there and make sure that we restore honesty to our elections, which we do intend to do immediately.
00:18:14.000Since when did ethics come into play when it comes to Arizona elections?
00:18:18.000And that's why we have to reform them and restore honesty to them.
00:18:22.000But we've got eyeballs and ears and attorneys, and we know we won and we're very excited for the future.
00:18:29.000I'm already got my plan of attack to take on Katie Hobbs.
00:18:33.000And we're just, we just couldn't be happier because I'm thrilled at how well we did outside of Maricopa County.
00:18:39.000It's never happened before where a candidate won by winning every county outside of Maricopa County.
00:18:46.000And when we're all said and done, I will have won Maricopa County as well.
00:18:50.000So what I think is important, though, is I believe there was a strategy to try to rob you of an election night speech and transition towards the general.
00:18:58.000It's just they don't want that kind of climax moment.
00:19:01.000Carrie, you're going to have to rally the people here in Arizona.
00:19:06.000You're going to have to rally the grassroots, but also the Republican establishment as well, that wasn't very helpful to you at all.
00:19:13.000In fact, they were totally opposed to you.
00:19:14.000I don't want to look backwards, but I think it's important to reinforce how much money was spent against you.
00:19:20.000And just kind of just, I know that we want to look forward to Katie Hobbs, but this is a big, I think, learning moment for the MAGA movement.
00:19:39.000It's ideas, it's people, and it's a movement.
00:19:41.000We had a movement from day one, and our estimation is $26 million was spent between my opponent pouring her own millions in and the dark money attacks on us.
00:19:51.000And then you got to figure out, Charlie, what the corporate corrupt news threw at us, the fake news covering one hit piece after a next.
00:20:01.000Every day I woke up to probably two or three, sometimes more negative stories that were based on complete lies.
00:20:09.000So, you know, the media is still working for the other side, for the swamp, and we still rose above it and won.
00:20:15.000And I think this is the death of that crooked part of the Republican Party.
00:21:14.000It will be my, one of my greatest missions will be to bring this party together and bring new people in who are fleeing the Democrat Party.
00:21:23.000Everybody, email us your thoughts, questions for Kerry LakeFreedom at charliekirk.com.
00:21:28.000And congratulations again, just everything you had to go through.
00:21:32.000I know I can imagine that yesterday was certainly a roller coaster for you, you know, looking at where it was when it started, then where it ended up.
00:21:41.000What, Charlie, we did six and a half hours and then I ended up drove over, wanted to see the excitement.
00:21:47.000Everybody seemed so happy over there at the party last night.
00:21:50.000But what I wanted to ask you about is, and we spoke a little bit about this, is that while this is Arizona, and I say this as, you know, as a Pennsylvanian, you know, far outside, but what does this, and it certainly does pretend to be a victory.
00:22:04.000What does this say about the overall state of affairs?
00:22:07.000Because a lot of the framing that went into your race became this sort of proxy war kind of narrative that it was framed as sort of an establishment versus grassroots, a MAGA versus money, if you will.
00:22:19.000And does this represent, and I said this on Twitter this morning, does this actually represent a tectonic shift in the party itself?
00:22:28.000Because the candidates like you that have never been involved in politics before can come in and then win the people by standing up and saying that you will be their representative, not the representative of special interests.
00:22:42.000I think it was a political earthquake last night in Arizona, an absolute ground shift in what we accomplished and a message to the part of our party that really wants Make America great again, folks, the MAGA folks to leave.
00:23:03.000And because we are the strength of the party, we want to bring everybody into this party.
00:23:08.000But we must acknowledge that MAGA is not going anywhere.
00:23:12.000And, you know, I think we can find a spot in this party for people who are more establishment-minded, but they have to realize that Donald Trump and the legacy of leaders that he created are not going anywhere.
00:23:26.000And they are the ones that are going to propel this Republican Party to its greatest days to be able to accomplish amazing things and frankly, to be able to save this republic.
00:23:36.000And so it's just going to take a couple days.
00:23:38.000Maybe some people might take a week to just think about what's happening and say, okay, we were not able to crush the MAGA movement.
00:23:46.000Let's accept it and warmly accept it for the beautiful thing that it is.
00:23:51.000It's bringing we, the people, into politics, which is exactly what our founders envisioned.
00:24:10.000I reached out to his team yesterday early in the day, and I have many Trump surrogates who I've spoken to, who he has spoken to about the race.
00:24:19.000I'm waiting to call him a little bit later today.
00:24:21.000I woke up this morning on my anniversary and I've had one media hit after the next.
00:24:26.000So I will be calling him hopefully here soon.
00:26:07.000And I think that she's going to continue to do that.
00:26:09.000I know for a fact she's afraid of me and she will probably try to avoid debating me and talking about the issues because let's face it, Charlie, let's face it, Jack, the solutions that the Democrat Party has are disastrous.
00:26:42.000Not to mention the situation that we're in because of our stolen election that delivered us a Joe Biden.
00:26:48.000He's the reason our economy is falling to pieces.
00:26:51.000And this is the same stuff the Democrats want to do in every state and every city.
00:26:56.000Look at all of the terrible cities that have been run into the ground and each and every one of them was turned into a nightmare by a Democrat.
00:27:05.000And so I believe we're going to have an easy time beating her because we have better ideas.
00:27:09.000Our America First policies will get Arizona on the right track.
00:27:14.000We're going to restore honesty to our elections and we're going to reform our education so that when we send our kiddos off to school, we know they're getting information and knowledge, not being brainwashed.
00:27:26.000We want them ready for the opportunities that the future will present to them.
00:27:30.000There's, Carrie, I'll say this in closing.
00:27:49.000The fact that you have won this race, and I'm confident to say that now, with basically a virtual media blackout and with almost all establishment money against you and having to kind of grassroots this thing and muscle it out, it's one of the more remarkable things I've seen in some time.
00:28:04.000It really is, especially considering the kind of institutional forces.
00:28:09.000So, Carrie, we have about 30 seconds left.
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00:30:47.000And there was a lot of talk about that, that people were going to check out, people were going to be out of the process, that they were going to be burned.
00:31:10.000And he explained that it's not, okay, Schwab, he's got his great reset and everything, detaining me at Davos and all this, putting me on a list.
00:31:22.000And what Steve said, though, was this is the great awakening.
00:31:27.000That actually what's happening is because of everything, because of the events of 2020, more and more people are being activated.
00:31:35.000And that is why you're seeing things like this, and Charlie called it, and all credit to you for calling this, this idea that it wasn't just going to be a trickle of votes where people were driving them in and dropping them off.
00:31:47.000What a vast reservoir of the exact number, 125,000 people in one county would go and do this because they were so upset at the system, not at voting in general.
00:32:04.000They were going to vote and they were willing to, even by the way, in this economy with gas prices as they are, driving in and actually making sure that some, they handed their ballot to somebody and that they were given, you know, you can call it a digital receipt or given a confirmation that they could track online.
00:32:59.000And we got a question about Western Michigan here where someone emailed us.
00:33:03.000And I just find this whole thing to be so ridiculous.
00:33:05.000Charlie, Ben Shapiro's show this morning was about weak candidates Republicans put forward in these primaries.
00:33:10.000He specifically was noting, and Ben's a friend, I just totally disagree with him on this, that Trump's endorsement doesn't mean much when it comes to the general election and that candidates like Gibbs probably won't win the general election because they're weak.
00:33:20.000Ben Shapiro was stating how much money the Democrats put into Gibbs election, knowing he could not beat the Democrat candidate.
00:33:26.000I know this goes on with ETH Party, but I have yet to hear of any Republicans wasting money, floating other candidates.
00:34:18.000If you put two candidates in front of them, if you give them the basic instructions, and if you give them, by the way, a referendum with clear language, they will make the right decision.
00:34:27.000Yeah, and I mean, look, if under that mentality, just so you know, we would not have Josh Hawley in Missouri.
00:34:32.000We wouldn't have Ron DeSantis in Florida.