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00:00:17.000Dr. Peter McCullough around vaccines, the Nuremberg Code, early intervention.
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00:04:07.000Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:04:11.000Honored truly to have with us today someone that I consider to be the captain of the A-team of Team Reality, someone that I've looked up to throughout this last year, Dr. Peter McCullough.
00:04:21.000And instead of me doing his bio for him, I'll let him introduce himself to all of you.
00:04:26.000Doctor, thank you so much for joining the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:04:36.000I'm a practicing internist and cardiologist.
00:04:39.000And like all good internists and medical specialists, I treat COVID patients because it's the biggest problem that we have right now in medicine.
00:04:49.000And I am a board certified in both specialties.
00:04:52.000I spend about half my time in practice and then half my time in research.
00:04:57.000I'm an author, an editor, and clinical researcher, a frequent news commentator.
00:05:02.000I provide my commentary both in written and in verbal, as well as a screen presentation.
00:05:08.000I was on the news, National News, three times yesterday for national audiences.
00:05:13.000And so I'm one of the few doctors that you'll see on TV or on the internet that actually sees patients that is actually published on COVID-19.
00:05:20.000And my advice has been relied upon by the U.S. Senate, multiple House Senate, many courts around the nation.
00:05:27.000And I'm considered in my field and considered one of the most published people in academic medicine.
00:05:32.000I have over 650 peer-reviewed publications in the literature, very high H-index, meaning my papers have had big impact.
00:05:39.000And in COVID-19, we need all the expertise we can because it's all about exchanging scientific ideas to help guide us out of this crisis.
00:05:50.000And the medical industrial complex has done everything they possibly can to try and silence you.
00:05:55.000And I have found your writings and your findings to be so helpful to myself and to my family.
00:06:02.000Talk about what you've been finding, especially in the last couple of weeks when it comes to Omicron.
00:06:08.000You know, you go to the NIH website, and basically, when you really read it carefully, if someone were to get COVID and is not vaccinated, basically the NIH website says, go home and just wait till the symptoms get bad enough and go to the hospital.
00:06:26.000What have you found to be, talk about the importance of early intervention and early treatments?
00:06:32.000So I really believe in some ways we have a pandemic of the untreated.
00:06:37.000I've, you know, one time, just to put this in a vignette, I was giving a public program in West Texas and one of the public directors showed up.
00:07:16.000Why don't you know how many people receive monoclonal antibodies?
00:07:19.000Well, let me tell you, I've looked at the literature of people hospitalized.
00:07:24.000It's basically a function of people not getting treatment.
00:07:27.000The vast majority of people hospitalized and those who die get little or no early treatment.
00:07:32.000That's the issue, not the vaccines, not masks or hand sanitizer.
00:07:36.000It's actually about people receiving treatment.
00:07:39.000If we didn't treat people for pneumococcal pneumonia, they'd end up in the hospital.
00:07:43.000If we didn't treat people early for influenza, they'd all end up in the hospital.
00:07:47.000If we didn't treat people for chlamydial and mycoplasmal pneumonia, the theme should be pretty clear here.
00:07:53.000For acute respiratory infections, they must be treated early at home.
00:07:57.000And so, this is really the fundamental problem: is that our agencies have fallen flat on addressing outpatients with COVID-19.
00:08:06.000So, myself and people in my groups, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, stepped in big early on, fully support early treatment.
00:08:14.000Then came Frontline Critical Care Consortium, then American Frontline Doctors, and then finally the Truth for Health Foundation.
00:08:21.000So, listen, there are four organizations they fully support early treatment.
00:08:25.000Early treatment involves starting in the nose, starting in the nose.
00:08:47.000So, we actually have to decontaminate the nose.
00:08:50.000I hate to be so common sense approach, but this has to be done.
00:08:55.000So, now there's nine studies showing thousands of patients that if we actually use a pavidone iodine or high that actually is a virus in the nose, we can marketly reduce the incidence of infections and reduce the spread and then reduce the severity of symptoms.
00:09:14.000The lead compound is pavidone iodine or betadine, the brown iodine solution.
00:09:19.000It's available on Amazon, I think, for $5, probably no more than $10.
00:09:23.000Buy a bottle of it, and then you take half a teaspoon, put it in a shot glass, and put one and a half ounces of water in a shot glass, and then take a bulb syringe or a spray bottle, spray it up the nose, sniff it back, and spit it out the throat.
00:09:37.000That's what does it do it twice on each side, do it twice a day for prevention, particularly after you go out, go to parties.
00:09:44.000I know people like you, Atari, you probably go out and have a good time as a young person.
00:09:48.000When you come home, make sure you do that because you could have the virus in your nose.
00:09:53.000Now, in acute treatment, like right now, I have scads of people in their 70s and 80s.
00:09:57.000I have them do it every four hours, and so that zaps the source of the fever right at the source.
00:10:03.000The source is in the nose, and people all want to take pills.
00:10:06.000The first thing they ask is, Where can I take a pill?
00:10:08.000I said, Listen, the problem is in the nose, zap the nose.
00:10:19.000I was so stupid, and then it invaded my lungs.
00:10:22.000No wonder because I didn't do anything.
00:10:24.000And so, what I learned through these randomized trials, and they most of them broke in 2021, to be fair, is that we must zap it early in the nose, must.
00:10:35.000Everything else is secondary to actually treating it in the nose.
00:10:39.000Everybody wants to get into vitamin D or supplements, those are fine.
00:10:43.000Sure, we recommend zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, kercetin, and over-the-counter anacid copodidine impairs a viral replication.
00:10:50.000But if we had those six things and we focused on decontamination in the nose, we'd be in great shape.
00:10:54.000Beyond that, we just heard about President Trump getting regeneron, monoclonal antibodies.
00:11:00.000The senior Governor Abbott, the vaccines didn't work for him.
00:11:04.000He was saved by a monoclonal antibody fusion.
00:11:07.000Podcaster Joe Rogan, I went 15 rounds with him in the man cave, and he told me about getting regeneron.
00:11:13.000Aaron Rogers, who apparently mentioned me on his podcast, and I missed it because I was on with you guys.
00:11:18.000But Aaron received monoclonal antibodies.
00:11:20.000That's called the McCullough Protocol.
00:11:21.000That is leading off with this idea that we start to do things in sequence.
00:11:25.000And then after that, it's pretty easy.
00:11:27.000We can use, if we can't use monoclonal antibodies, we use hydroxycorquin, supported by over 300 studies, about a 25% impact.
00:11:34.000Ivermectin, supported by over 60 studies, but over a 70% impact.
00:11:39.000We don't have Faviipirivir in the United States, but they use it in Russia and in Japan.
00:11:43.000We're going to have the Pfizer drug, combination of a kymase-like 3 inhibitor plus Bertonivir, an older protease inhibitor, about an 80% impact.
00:11:52.000And then the Merck drug looks pretty weak, malpinovir, seems to be like Faviipirivir, 30% impact.
00:11:57.000We use those combined with azithromycin, doxycycline.
00:12:00.000We use inhaled butcinide throughout, randomized trial stoic trial, 80% reduction in risk of hospitalization.
00:12:07.000We use oral colchicine throughout, about a 25% risk reduction in hospitalization and also in mortality.
00:12:15.000And then we use oral prednisone on day five or pulmonary symptoms, aspirin all the way throughout because of the blood thinning effect, 325 milligrams.
00:12:24.000High-risk patients, nursing-known patients, people in wheelchairs, people immobilized.
00:12:39.000There can be additional things added or subtracted.
00:12:42.000But I'm telling you, this approach, applied to people over age 50 with medical problems, over 65 and everybody, would basically reduce the risk of hospitalization and death by at least 85%.
00:12:52.000And I've given that undersworn testimony.
00:12:54.000I think now with the better drugs, honestly, we could probably prevent over 95% of hospitalization.
00:12:59.000It should be a rare person who gets hospitalized after they receive very comprehensive outpatient treatment.
00:13:06.000The treatment always pulls people through.
00:13:09.000Well, Doctor, there's so many different ways I want to follow up with it.
00:13:12.000The obvious, I just have to say it out loud: it's criminal that we aren't doing this.
00:13:37.000I put him on the McCullough protocol or the Joe Rogan routine, whatever it is.
00:13:41.000Blood oxygen level never went below 96, no hospitalization necessary.
00:13:46.000We did get him in for monoclonal earlier than some might have recommended just because of his condition, but unvaccinated and the protocol worked.
00:13:55.000So I want to just focus on one thing you mentioned because you said it quickly.
00:13:59.000And we have some new listeners and we have some listeners that are just beginning to get exposed to this, doctor, because you've been in this since the very beginning.
00:14:07.000And some of this we kind of get so used to saying we act as if everyone's heard it.
00:14:11.000Just be very specific about the cleaning of the nose protocol because that is new for some people to hear.
00:14:19.000Okay, we clean the nose with what's called virusidal treatment.
00:14:23.000Now that's pavidone iodine, also known as betadyne.
00:14:35.000That's the brand name of it, pavadone iodine.
00:14:38.000And then you take a half a teaspoon of that, mix it in a shot glass of water, 1.5 ounces, and then take a bulb syringe or a spray bottle and spray it way up in the nose.
00:14:50.000And you got to sniff it back and choke on it a little bit and then spit it out.
00:14:53.000That actually washes the back of the nose.
00:15:44.000So, and I want to go just kind of piggyback off the end of your previous comment where you talk about all these treatments and the reduction of hospitalizations that could have been.
00:15:53.000I'm going to ask you a difficult question: why is this not being done then?
00:15:57.000If it's so obvious, is the science is overwhelming, which it is, and I've seen this anecdotally and personally.
00:16:03.000I'm far from a clinical scientist or doctor, but I'm also not an idiot.
00:16:08.000And I could see this stuff happening in real time.
00:16:11.000Why is it that we are still going through this process of, oh, if your symptoms get bad enough, come to the hospital, we'll stick you in the corner, put you on a ventilator, and hope things get better.
00:16:57.000And sure, we'd always love more evidence.
00:16:59.000Now, if the countries did 40,000 patient trials like they did the vaccine trials, we obviously could do anywhere from 30,000 to 45,000 patient trials of vaccines.
00:17:10.000If we could do those trials and would have done those trials with drugs in combination early on, we would have the evidence that those who say we need it, we would have it.
00:17:19.000But right now, I can tell you, I published the lead papers on this.
00:17:22.000I said, listen, we can't wait for these studies.
00:17:24.000We don't know if these guys are going to get off the dime or not.
00:17:27.000We have to react on what's called the precautionary principle.
00:17:35.000We can't wait for those who say we need more evidence.
00:17:37.000We look for signals of benefit, acceptable safety, put drugs in a combination, and we're humble and said, you know what?
00:17:44.000We'll refine our approach if we see new signals coming in the future.
00:17:48.000And we've published two papers on this.
00:17:50.000Others have published their protocols.
00:17:51.000America should be reassured that Dr. Pierre Corey and Paul Merrick, very well-respected critical care doctors, they independently came up with the Math Plus and IMath protocols independently of McCullough and my group over here.
00:18:05.000We went communicating and we arrived at the same principles.
00:18:08.000Didier Ridalt in France and Vladimir Zlenko, Monroe, New York, they arrived at the same principles.
00:18:14.000Eugenia Barentios and Sankara Chetti down in South America and South Africa, respectively, they arrived at the same principles.
00:18:22.000So what I'm telling you is we're on the right track.
00:18:27.000Our public health agencies, I think, are running now well over a year behind in the data.
00:18:32.000So either they know it can be treated and they're intentionally ignoring it, or they don't know.
00:18:39.000Scott Atlas, in his most recent book about the pandemic response, he thinks they don't know.
00:18:45.000He thinks they're just incompetent at the top.
00:18:48.000So, you know, he thinks they have good intentions.
00:18:50.000They just can't stay on top of the data.
00:18:52.000They're not America's A-team when it comes to science and data.
00:18:58.000I believe in being healthy and staying active, whether that means working out or playing sports, the last thing I want to be held back in any way, I'm sure you feel the same.
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00:20:08.000And for whatever reason, you know, just using regular reasoning given to me from the Lord, I could say, oh, yeah, that person in my family that did vitamin D supplements and got monoclonal did well.
00:20:20.000And that person that went to the hospital way too early died.
00:20:23.000Like, I don't know if it's really that.
00:21:56.000And I think your advocacy and Dr. Malone and getting on Joe Rogan and empowering people, it's been promising.
00:22:03.000I'm still very upset with our public health officials because I deal in my own orbit of people that still worship at the state, the defeat of Fauci and that no matter what they say, they'll do.
00:22:15.000United States, according to the news, reports more than 325,000 new COVID cases, the highest single day increase during the entire pandemic.
00:22:25.000We are also saying that we're the most vaccinated we've been.
00:22:28.000Do you think there's a correlation between a potential leaky vaccine and higher transmission or the virus kind of continuing to be spread?
00:22:38.000Is there a correlation between the two?
00:22:40.000Well, our public health officials announced this summer that the vaccines were not stopping transmission of Delta.
00:22:59.000Now we have countless examples, cruise ships, military vessels, lockdown groups of people, and they spread COVID to one another fully vaccinated.
00:23:08.000I think everyone should know the vaccines don't stop people from spreading COVID-19.
00:23:17.000So with that backdrop, we now have data from the United States, from Denmark, and from South Africa all showing with Omicron, the most recent variant, over 70% are fully vaccinated.
00:23:30.000Omicron and what we're seeing right now of those record numbers of cases, it must be driven by the fully vaccinated.
00:23:36.000We have 200 million Americans in the United States who have taken the vaccine.
00:23:40.000The CDC says as of October that we have 146 million Americans that have already had COVID.
00:23:46.000There's only 330 million Americans in the country.
00:23:52.000You can't say it's a problem of the unvaccinated anymore.
00:23:55.000It's clearly driven by the vaccinated.
00:23:58.000So according to the New York Times, it says that the likelihood of dying from COVID is much higher if you are unvaccinated.
00:24:09.000Now, you ask, well, what about whether or not they got monoclonal antibodies or not?
00:24:13.000Is there any evidence to show that this vaccine, we know it doesn't prevent you from getting the virus, which the vaccine is supposed to do.
00:24:19.000Is there any evidence to show that it's an effective treatment?
00:24:24.000Well, there's two papers to review on that.
00:24:27.000One is by 1040 and colleagues, 1040, and published in JAMA.
00:24:32.000Now, they demonstrated when they got into patients that they really knew what was going on in the hospital, vaccinated, unvaccinated.
00:25:18.000And when we look at survival, so the inverse of mortality, over age 65, there was a 12-point difference in survival among those who were positive for COVID-19, 12 points.
00:25:43.000I'm telling you, under age 65, the best data that we have, there is a 1% absolute survival battery.
00:25:51.000And I also, and you made this point early on, which is the most important point, which is, and it's that, it's, it's, you know, you could hear a 10th grader say this.
00:25:59.000It kind of is because the question is, do you have a vaccinated person, unvaccinated person that had an early intervention, monoclonal antibodies, and the regimen?
00:27:07.000For years, people used to come up to me at events with these binders full of information saying that I have to get more read up on vaccines.
00:27:15.000And these are mostly mothers that claim that their children had adverse events to the vaccine of autism or whatever.
00:27:21.000And I never really took it very, I want to say seriously.
00:27:24.000I just was never that interested in it.
00:27:26.000I have been very interested, though, in this particular vaccine and adverse events to it.
00:27:31.000We just had an event in Phoenix, Arizona with over 10,000 people.
00:27:36.000And I asked the audience, how many people in the room know somebody personally that's had a very serious adverse event to this vaccine?
00:27:57.000Talk about this vaccine and talk about how careful people should be as far as giving this vaccine, especially to children, but the potential damage this vaccine could be doing to our general citizenry.
00:28:09.000If we had proper safety oversight over the vaccine program, it would have been shut down in February because in February, we had 182 deaths by January 22nd.
00:28:26.000There's only 27 million people vaccinated.
00:28:28.000So in February, without shutting it down, we could predict that we would have a catastrophe if we'd go all the way up and vaccinate 200 million people.
00:28:56.000Half of these reported through the U.S. reporting system elsewhere, Caribbean and other places.
00:29:02.000But these are human lives that are lost.
00:29:04.000What the CDC is telling us certified 20,622 deaths as of December 17th, a total of 983,756 safety reports, over 350 hospitalizations or ER visits.
00:30:28.000People said, okay, you know, these are just voluntarily reported.
00:30:33.000We know from a paper by Meisner and colleagues published in Pediatrics a few years ago, 86% of those reports are done by doctors, nurses, coroners, paramedics, healthcare workers, the drug companies, people who think the vaccine caused it, 86% of the time.
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00:34:33.000And you were so good in that interview.
00:34:35.000They did their best to try to discredit you and they did an awful job of it.
00:34:40.000I don't know if you saw this website or not, but they had some smart Alec go through your interview and they try to say, here's all the inaccurate claims.
00:34:48.000I want to read one of them and I want you to expand upon it.
00:34:54.000Which you said in the interview with Joe Rogan, you said, quote, you said, when you talk about an antiviral monoclonal antibody, it's a wonderful advance.
00:35:07.000We've never had this before as far as treating COVID.
00:35:14.000In addition, you said, we now know that the spike protein after these vaccines is produced in the body for an uncontrolled quantity, uncontrolled duration of time.
00:35:23.000A paper by Ogada, colleagues from Harvard, which shows the free-floating spike protein.
00:35:30.000Talk about the spike proteins and talk about why that makes this particular vaccine different.
00:35:35.000So, the spike protein is the dangerous part of the virus that was actually manipulated in the lab of Wuhan, China, with what's called gain of function research, particularly at the furane cleavage joint, the hinge between the S1 outer segment, which binds to human cells, and the S2 segment that anchors it into the viral nucleocapsid.
00:35:53.000The spike protein is 1200 amino acids.
00:35:56.000It has multiple glycosylation side chains, and it is by design a lethal weapon.
00:36:03.000Now, it's been shown in multiple studies.
00:36:05.000It damages cells, it causes inflammation, it damages organs, including the brain, it damages the heart.
00:36:13.000Paper by Avolio showed this heart muscle damage in the pericytes causes blood clotting, endothelial damage, and blood clotting.
00:36:21.000Paper by Zhang and colleagues, which I'm a co-author on.
00:36:25.000The spike protein unequivocally causes damage in the human body.
00:36:29.000Ogata showed after the first injection of messenger RNA, it's basically easily measurable for 14 days, but one individual actually was measurable out to 29 days.
00:36:38.000I can tell you with COVID-19, the respiratory illness, with active treatment, we can clear the PCR within four days.
00:36:46.000You know, we don't have two weeks of spike protein exposure systemically in well-treated patients.
00:36:51.000This is scary that this happens after the vaccine.
00:36:54.000It's all factual, it's all highly cited.
00:36:58.000These fact-checking organizations, including this one, by the way, they've been fact-checked themselves and they go right back to the vaccine stakeholders.
00:37:07.000Yeah, so what you're saying is the vaccine stakeholders are reading every word I said, and I'm glad I'm glad they're reading it, and because they're amplifying and highlighting these important analytic points.
00:37:21.000So, you know, their goal is to try to discredit the information, but instead it's working against them because we know that they are a window to the vaccine stakeholders, which include actually the U.S. government, Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson Johnson, AstraZeneca, the Gates Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, Gavi, CEPI, World Health Organization.
00:37:46.000So, you know, that is what we call the vaccine stakeholders.
00:37:49.000I call them stakeholders, people call them the Cabal, the consortium.
00:37:53.000You know, there is a group of very powerful, well-integrated, coordinated individuals who want to see the entire world vaccinated at very high frequencies.
00:38:04.000We're not talking about a one-time shot.
00:38:08.000Now, today it hit the wires that boosters may last only 10 weeks.
00:38:12.000So we're looking at very, very tight frequencies of repeated genetic injections, which code for the production of the spike protein.
00:38:20.000Now, in a paper by Patterson, a second one by Banzel, suggesting that the spike protein probably lasts in the human body for over a year per injection.
00:38:28.000So now, if we start injecting every three months or six months, there will be a progressive accumulation of this disease-causing protein in critical organs like the brain, the heart, bone marrow, and elsewhere.
00:38:40.000Dr. Malone has been very articulate on this.
00:38:42.000And I encourage we did an interview with everyone.
00:38:45.000You've been amazing on this topic as well.
00:38:48.000But Dr. Malone, especially on the mRNA issue, with his let me give you Malone update.
00:38:54.000Today, he was permanently banned for Twitter.
00:38:57.000So, if you want to follow up on that, and then tomorrow, he's going to appear on Joe Rogan.
00:39:03.000So, I can tell you, we're going to have another three hours.
00:39:06.000We'll see if Malone can handle three hours in the pit with Joe Rogan.
00:39:09.000I told him to use the restroom ahead of time, don't drink any coffee because you got to be locked and loaded and ready to go.
00:39:16.000I went 15 rounds with Joe Rogan and we got out.
00:40:19.000This is the number one issue facing humanity and Americans.
00:40:22.000We've been told things that are patently untrue and the opposite of the truth.
00:40:27.000And people are now searching for a higher frequency.
00:40:30.000They want to get towards truth, even if it might be contrary to what they've been told.
00:40:35.000Okay, so I want to ask you a couple more questions here, and they're going to be kind of a little bit all over the place, but I've listened to hours of your content.
00:40:42.000So I want to ask you this question: Should doctors who knowingly violated their Hippocratic oath and refused to prescribe early treatments be subject to some form of criminal prosecution and/or be called before Nuremberg.
00:40:56.000And then can you expand on the Nuremberg Code?
00:41:00.000Because there's been a lot of online chatter about that.
00:41:06.000Okay, Nuremberg Code actually has to do with errors of commission.
00:41:11.000So the Nuremberg Code came out of Nazi Germany, where Nazi doctors, actually German doctors, were co-opted by the government and actually under pressure and coercion and threat of reprisal, they basically forced German citizens into Nazi research, which was diabolical and horrible things happened to them.
00:41:31.000And so doctors were actually involved in this.
00:41:34.000And so in trials that happened in Nuremberg, Germany, a code was written to never let this happen again.
00:41:46.000It says right in the consent form that you're participating in research.
00:41:49.000It says that a doctor or any other entity may never apply any pressure, coercion, or threat of reprisal to have anybody be involved in research.
00:42:01.000So that means no good doctor could ever tell a patient that they should take a COVID-19 vaccine.
00:42:07.000They can weigh out the risks and benefits, but it's the patient's own free choice.
00:42:10.000That means no employer could ever tell a patient that they have to take the vaccine.
00:42:15.000That means no president of the United States through a press briefing or through a CMS mandate elsewhere could ever do that.
00:42:22.000All of these entities have violated the Nuremberg Code.
00:42:26.000Now, you could say, well, how could we ever put somebody on trial for the Nuremberg Code?
00:42:29.000And actually, these would be trialed in international court or crimes against humanity.
00:42:34.000In fact, those charges have been filed in multiple places now.
00:42:38.000But you asked a question about errors of omission, about doctors actually not treating COVID patients.
00:42:45.000And that one goes down to standard civil law.
00:42:48.000And we do have laws related to medical malpractice.
00:42:51.000And the two most common reasons for medical malpractice is failure to diagnose and failure to treat.
00:42:58.000And we'd have to assume that the diagnosis of COVID-19 was made.
00:43:01.000People knew there was no failure in diagnosing a patient.
00:43:04.000Now the issue is: did they fail to treat them?
00:43:08.000And the criteria that's held is what's called community standard of care.
00:43:13.000So If a jury or if it was a bench trial judge, if they considered the community standard of care is some form of treatment that the treatment organizations had, and the very first home treatment guide was published by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons in October of 2020.
00:43:32.000I had imagined from October 2020 forward, there could be a case for medical malpractice.
00:43:37.000Before that time, people would say, listen, it was just too formative.
00:45:07.000There's a whole bunch of either multiplex testing or single flu testing.
00:45:11.000You know, that's, you know, that's good enough.
00:45:14.000Now, the original COVID PCR test, polymerase chain reaction test, the original methods came from the CDC because companies didn't know COVID-19 was coming.
00:45:23.000So, the laboratory-derived assays that all the health systems and hospitals did, and they all had to apply for their own EUAs.
00:45:29.000It was very burdensome for every hospital to do this.
00:45:32.000You got 5,600 hospitals in the United States.
00:45:35.000They basically used the CDC methodology and they emulated that.
00:45:39.000And so, for a period of time during the pandemic, for variable periods of time, hospitals actually relied on the CDC methodology.
00:45:46.000Now, almost all the departments of community health, to my knowledge, relied on the CDC methodology.
00:45:53.000What happened was over time, you know, we got Quest and Lab Corp, the big labs, they moved in, they got their own PCR test, they got their own approval for their PCR tests, their own methods, and those PCR tests, my understanding, is secure.
00:46:07.000So, probably the vast majority of Americans who went to an urgent care and they got a PCR test through, you know, Quest or Lab Corp or Abbott, what have you, they're fine.
00:46:16.000But all the people went to the city testing centers, those who had the diagnosis arrived at the hospital.
00:46:21.000It's possible that their CDC test, which now the CDC has told us, it couldn't tell between flu and COVID.
00:46:31.000So, you can imagine, and this would be worrisome.
00:46:33.000Can you imagine a senior citizen is at a nursing home, they get sick, they go to the local hospital, they get a swab, and it says COVID.
00:46:42.000Well, if nobody thought to check a separate flu test and really diagnose the flu, they would have been diagnosed with COVID.
00:46:49.000And chances are would have been isolated, would have been admitted, maybe received remdesivir or dexamethasone, barcinitib or tozolizumab.
00:46:58.000They would have gotten a lot of treatments that would be inappropriate, potentially harmful, and the whole time misdiagnosed flu for COVID.
00:47:08.000And so, you know, this is possibly went on.
00:47:12.000I had a conversation regarding Scott Atlas, and you should bring him on.
00:47:17.000He don't think, he doesn't think this happened at all because influenza went down everywhere in the world.
00:47:22.000And he said it couldn't be due to the CDC test that explains this, that the worldwide reduction in flu was something else.
00:47:29.000You know, I'm not so sure, but it's uncanny.
00:47:32.000You know, in 2017, we had about 72,000 flu deaths in the United States.
00:47:37.000And people with influenza, they die of secondary staphylococcal pneumonias or streptococcal pneumonias in general.
00:47:42.000It's a different death pattern, but it affects our seniors.
00:47:46.000So, you know, if those 70,000 deaths, the flu deaths, in a sense, became COVID deaths, and we know that of COVID deaths, 90% of them had significant comorbidities, which the flu deaths would as well.
00:47:59.000We're still down to attribution of who really died of COVID, a much smaller number, maybe less than 100,000.
00:48:06.000I take the bigger number just because, you know, 800,000, that's what we have to work with.
00:48:11.000And when I testified under oath, November 19th of 2020, I said 50% of those deaths by that time period could have been spared with early treatment.
00:48:19.000And then Texas Senate testimony, again, I'm under oath.
00:48:22.000I put that number as of March 10th, 2021, up to 85% of the deaths could have been spared.
00:48:29.000I have some additional Senate testimony coming up next month, and I'm likely to come in at about 95% of people could have been spared with early treatment.
00:48:39.000And I can tell you that those are big numbers.
00:48:45.000And I think every doctor, every hospital, and every clinic better be able to say they did their best for patients.
00:48:54.000And I can tell you, taking a senior citizen and handing them a positive test result and telling them to go home and wait till they get sick enough to where they can't breathe, that's not good enough.
00:49:04.000And that's far from being good enough.
00:49:07.000And many in the future probably will say that was malpractice.
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00:50:26.000And the people that do the IVs, they also work at the hospitals.
00:50:29.000And I just asked them a very basic question.
00:50:31.000This is far from the McCullough treatment or regimen, but I said, hey, at your hospitals, do you guys give a vitamin D booster shot when you get a COVID positive patient?
00:50:40.000Oh, no, we don't have vitamin D in our hospital.
00:51:04.000You know, they don't get outside much.
00:51:06.000And the one thing that could potentially help them could, it's not a silver bullet, but there is a correlation with higher vitamin D levels and the ability to survive the cytokosine storm.
00:51:18.000And so then I asked another person, a politician who is supposed to be on my side, but isn't.
00:51:25.000And I said, why is it that the Arizona Department of Health has not run one advertisement that I've heard advertising where the monoclonal antibody treatment centers are in Arizona?
00:52:27.000And I want to say again, Doctor, we get emails from people: Dr. McCullough saved my life.
00:52:31.000You know, zinc, azithromycin, whatever the regimen is, right?
00:52:35.000And I could list it off at the top of my head.
00:52:36.000You did it earlier in the show, but you put enough of these things with early intervention, your odds are going to increase at every point of early intervention, right?
00:52:44.000It's all a matter of, especially of playing the odds and depending on your age and comorbidities and, you know, any other underlying health factors.
00:53:32.000I've basically advised people on some vitamins and supplements, some treatments in the nose, and some prescription things that really don't work.
00:53:42.000That I've basically over-treated some patients for a potentially fatal disease.
00:54:44.000You can see the gravitas, the gravity scales here, right?
00:54:49.000You know, if I'm right, I'm right on, I think, one of the absolute biggest colossal issues of modern human times, if I'm right.
00:54:58.000Well, the species, and it's interesting.
00:55:00.000So I'm a big fan of C.S. Lewis, and he has this portion of Mere Christianity where he talks about atheism versus Christianity.
00:55:07.000And he says, in order to be a Christian, you don't have to believe every part of the Bible, but in order to be an atheist, you have to believe none of it.
00:55:16.000And so basically, the odds that he phrases in Mere Christianity is basically, you must dismiss the whole body of the metaphysical inquiry.
00:55:26.000Or you could say, yeah, I believe in Jesus.
00:56:05.000And I want, you know, it was one and done.
00:56:07.000And when the data broke on Omicron, I was the first to get out and tell America, listen, for the first time, natural immunity is failing and Omicron is breaking through.
00:56:33.000In a heartbeat, when I became convinced and it was clear and convincing evidence, I quickly told America that's the most responsible thing I can do as a doctor in a position of authority.
00:56:45.000Can you imagine those who are doubling and tripling down on the vaccines right now?
00:56:49.000As Omicron is just pouring into the vaccinated population?
00:56:53.000Is there the absence of intellectual honesty, the absence of humility, of understanding that we're dealing with something that's far beyond our abilities to control?
00:57:05.000I think historians are going to write a lot about this.
00:57:08.000And you're making history with this really insightful, really series of investigations that you've done.
00:57:14.000So in closing here, I want to ask you just about some personal, just like a personal question.
00:57:18.000I mean, you've dedicated your life to being a doctor.
01:00:48.000And listen, I've gotten these threat letters.
01:00:50.000They always come in with no phone call, no due process, nothing.
01:00:54.000And all they've done, and I've gotten a bunch of them, all they've done is trigger a bunch of Freedom of Information Act requests and letters of intent from me to find out what's behind all this.
01:01:13.000All I've tried to do is help people and help America and help the world through this.
01:01:17.000People on the other side, Charlie, are in deep water and it's getting deeper quickly.
01:01:23.000So that'll be my final question: which is: as you've been a doctor and you articulated it wonderfully, super well respected.
01:01:31.000What do you have to say about doctors that you kind of grew up in the profession alongside?
01:01:37.000People you went to school with, people that you had a lot of respect for.
01:01:41.000And I'm sure some doctors have been willing to open their eyes, and I'm sure some doctors have been very supportive.
01:01:47.000But I'm going to venture a guess that based on your earlier point of 500 total doctors holding up the entire country, I'm sure you've had some disappointments in your industry, in your profession.
01:02:17.000They need, in a sense, almost an amnesty pathway back to understand that, listen, they were on the sidelines, gripped in fear, in personal fear.
01:02:27.000They're probably in massive personal fear right now of the failure of the vaccines and seeing people pour in getting sick with COVID, fully vaccinated.
01:02:36.000But they need an amnesty pathway back and they need an olive branch to understand that, you know, There is a concept that if you see wrongdoing going on, like people not being treated, and you sit by and do nothing, that complicity also is committing wrongdoing.
01:02:55.000And they need some pathway out of it because they, in a sense, have supported each other.
01:03:01.000You know, entire health systems have sent emails saying don't use hydroxychloroquine, don't use ivermectin, don't treat patients.
01:03:07.000The American Medical Association has a campaign to abolish the use of ivermectin.
01:03:13.000Since when do you want to abolish the use of a generic medicine?
01:03:17.000You know, so there's going to be have to be kind of a dissolution of these horrific things.
01:03:23.000In a sense, these are this is almost like Nuremberg 2.0.
01:03:26.000There's going to have to be some recognition reconciliation of this.
01:03:29.000I don't know if this is going to happen in our lifetimes or not, but you can imagine with the number of lives lost.
01:03:36.000You know, sadly, in Nazi Germany, the lives lost of Jews and non-Jews in these atrocities, and some estimates are 16 million.
01:03:44.000Right now, we're going to be hitting a million Americans worldwide.