The Charlie Kirk Show - Uncensored with Dr. Peter McCullough

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00:04:07.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:04:11.000 Honored truly to have with us today someone that I consider to be the captain of the A-team of Team Reality, someone that I've looked up to throughout this last year, Dr. Peter McCullough.

00:04:21.000 And instead of me doing his bio for him, I'll let him introduce himself to all of you.

00:04:26.000 Doctor, thank you so much for joining the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:04:29.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:04:30.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:31.000 So I'm Dr. Peter McCullough.

00:04:32.000 It's a great pleasure to join the show.

00:04:34.000 I'm busy treating COVID patients.

00:04:36.000 I'm a practicing internist and cardiologist.

00:04:39.000 And like all good internists and medical specialists, I treat COVID patients because it's the biggest problem that we have right now in medicine.

00:04:49.000 And I am a board certified in both specialties.

00:04:52.000 I spend about half my time in practice and then half my time in research.

00:04:57.000 I'm an author, an editor, and clinical researcher, a frequent news commentator.

00:05:02.000 I provide my commentary both in written and in verbal, as well as a screen presentation.

00:05:08.000 I was on the news, National News, three times yesterday for national audiences.

00:05:13.000 And so I'm one of the few doctors that you'll see on TV or on the internet that actually sees patients that is actually published on COVID-19.

00:05:20.000 And my advice has been relied upon by the U.S. Senate, multiple House Senate, many courts around the nation.

00:05:27.000 And I'm considered in my field and considered one of the most published people in academic medicine.

00:05:32.000 I have over 650 peer-reviewed publications in the literature, very high H-index, meaning my papers have had big impact.

00:05:39.000 And in COVID-19, we need all the expertise we can because it's all about exchanging scientific ideas to help guide us out of this crisis.

00:05:49.000 Well, that's terrific.

00:05:50.000 And the medical industrial complex has done everything they possibly can to try and silence you.

00:05:55.000 And I have found your writings and your findings to be so helpful to myself and to my family.

00:06:02.000 Talk about what you've been finding, especially in the last couple of weeks when it comes to Omicron.

00:06:08.000 You know, you go to the NIH website, and basically, when you really read it carefully, if someone were to get COVID and is not vaccinated, basically the NIH website says, go home and just wait till the symptoms get bad enough and go to the hospital.

00:06:26.000 What have you found to be, talk about the importance of early intervention and early treatments?

00:06:32.000 So I really believe in some ways we have a pandemic of the untreated.

00:06:37.000 I've, you know, one time, just to put this in a vignette, I was giving a public program in West Texas and one of the public directors showed up.

00:06:37.000 It's true.

00:06:47.000 And this is in the summertime.

00:06:49.000 And, you know, once I finished my presentation, just giving the data on treatment, he made the comment.

00:06:55.000 He said, well, I want to say that 85% of people in the hospital are unvaccinated.

00:07:02.000 And I said, well, how many of these people receive monoclonal antibodies, the treatment you're responsible for as a public health doctor?

00:07:08.000 He says, well, I don't know that.

00:07:10.000 I said, well, you know, vaccines don't treat the problem.

00:07:13.000 It's pretty obvious.

00:07:14.000 The monoclonal antibodies do.

00:07:16.000 Why don't you know how many people receive monoclonal antibodies?

00:07:19.000 Well, let me tell you, I've looked at the literature of people hospitalized.

00:07:24.000 It's basically a function of people not getting treatment.

00:07:27.000 The vast majority of people hospitalized and those who die get little or no early treatment.

00:07:32.000 That's the issue, not the vaccines, not masks or hand sanitizer.

00:07:36.000 It's actually about people receiving treatment.

00:07:39.000 If we didn't treat people for pneumococcal pneumonia, they'd end up in the hospital.

00:07:43.000 If we didn't treat people early for influenza, they'd all end up in the hospital.

00:07:47.000 If we didn't treat people for chlamydial and mycoplasmal pneumonia, the theme should be pretty clear here.

00:07:53.000 For acute respiratory infections, they must be treated early at home.

00:07:57.000 And so, this is really the fundamental problem: is that our agencies have fallen flat on addressing outpatients with COVID-19.

00:08:06.000 So, myself and people in my groups, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, stepped in big early on, fully support early treatment.

00:08:14.000 Then came Frontline Critical Care Consortium, then American Frontline Doctors, and then finally the Truth for Health Foundation.

00:08:21.000 So, listen, there are four organizations they fully support early treatment.

00:08:25.000 Early treatment involves starting in the nose, starting in the nose.

00:08:30.000 It's not a hand infection.

00:08:31.000 Everybody should know.

00:08:32.000 And people have putting hand sanitizer on, like it's a hand infection.

00:08:36.000 Do you know people have there have been scenes in Europe where they're spraying the sidewalk?

00:08:40.000 It's not a sidewalk infection.

00:08:42.000 People were spraying stadium seats.

00:08:44.000 It's not a stadium seat infection.

00:08:45.000 It's an infection in the nose.

00:08:47.000 So, we actually have to decontaminate the nose.

00:08:50.000 I hate to be so common sense approach, but this has to be done.

00:08:55.000 So, now there's nine studies showing thousands of patients that if we actually use a pavidone iodine or high that actually is a virus in the nose, we can marketly reduce the incidence of infections and reduce the spread and then reduce the severity of symptoms.

00:09:13.000 This really matters.

00:09:14.000 The lead compound is pavidone iodine or betadine, the brown iodine solution.

00:09:19.000 It's available on Amazon, I think, for $5, probably no more than $10.

00:09:23.000 Buy a bottle of it, and then you take half a teaspoon, put it in a shot glass, and put one and a half ounces of water in a shot glass, and then take a bulb syringe or a spray bottle, spray it up the nose, sniff it back, and spit it out the throat.

00:09:37.000 That's what does it do it twice on each side, do it twice a day for prevention, particularly after you go out, go to parties.

00:09:44.000 I know people like you, Atari, you probably go out and have a good time as a young person.

00:09:48.000 When you come home, make sure you do that because you could have the virus in your nose.

00:09:53.000 Now, in acute treatment, like right now, I have scads of people in their 70s and 80s.

00:09:57.000 I have them do it every four hours, and so that zaps the source of the fever right at the source.

00:10:03.000 The source is in the nose, and people all want to take pills.

00:10:06.000 The first thing they ask is, Where can I take a pill?

00:10:08.000 I said, Listen, the problem is in the nose, zap the nose.

00:10:11.000 And I learned about this late.

00:10:13.000 I had COVID-19 myself last year in 2020.

00:10:15.000 It literally baked in my nose for three days.

00:10:17.000 I didn't do anything. 0.99

00:10:19.000 I was so stupid, and then it invaded my lungs. 1.00

00:10:22.000 No wonder because I didn't do anything. 0.99

00:10:24.000 And so, what I learned through these randomized trials, and they most of them broke in 2021, to be fair, is that we must zap it early in the nose, must.

00:10:33.000 And so, everybody must do this.

00:10:35.000 Everything else is secondary to actually treating it in the nose.

00:10:39.000 Everybody wants to get into vitamin D or supplements, those are fine.

00:10:43.000 Sure, we recommend zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, kercetin, and over-the-counter anacid copodidine impairs a viral replication.

00:10:50.000 But if we had those six things and we focused on decontamination in the nose, we'd be in great shape.

00:10:54.000 Beyond that, we just heard about President Trump getting regeneron, monoclonal antibodies.

00:11:00.000 The senior Governor Abbott, the vaccines didn't work for him.

00:11:04.000 He was saved by a monoclonal antibody fusion.

00:11:07.000 Podcaster Joe Rogan, I went 15 rounds with him in the man cave, and he told me about getting regeneron.

00:11:13.000 Aaron Rogers, who apparently mentioned me on his podcast, and I missed it because I was on with you guys.

00:11:18.000 But Aaron received monoclonal antibodies.

00:11:20.000 That's called the McCullough Protocol.

00:11:21.000 That is leading off with this idea that we start to do things in sequence.

00:11:25.000 And then after that, it's pretty easy.

00:11:27.000 We can use, if we can't use monoclonal antibodies, we use hydroxycorquin, supported by over 300 studies, about a 25% impact.

00:11:34.000 Ivermectin, supported by over 60 studies, but over a 70% impact.

00:11:39.000 We don't have Faviipirivir in the United States, but they use it in Russia and in Japan.

00:11:43.000 We're going to have the Pfizer drug, combination of a kymase-like 3 inhibitor plus Bertonivir, an older protease inhibitor, about an 80% impact.

00:11:52.000 And then the Merck drug looks pretty weak, malpinovir, seems to be like Faviipirivir, 30% impact.

00:11:57.000 We use those combined with azithromycin, doxycycline.

00:12:00.000 We use inhaled butcinide throughout, randomized trial stoic trial, 80% reduction in risk of hospitalization.

00:12:07.000 We use oral colchicine throughout, about a 25% risk reduction in hospitalization and also in mortality.

00:12:15.000 And then we use oral prednisone on day five or pulmonary symptoms, aspirin all the way throughout because of the blood thinning effect, 325 milligrams.

00:12:24.000 High-risk patients, nursing-known patients, people in wheelchairs, people immobilized.

00:12:28.000 I use blood thinners right away.

00:12:30.000 Don't let the blood clots even form.

00:12:31.000 We use injectable lofinox or oral blood thinners.

00:12:35.000 This is called sequence multi-drug therapy for COVID-19.

00:12:37.000 It's the state of the art.

00:12:39.000 There can be additional things added or subtracted.

00:12:42.000 But I'm telling you, this approach, applied to people over age 50 with medical problems, over 65 and everybody, would basically reduce the risk of hospitalization and death by at least 85%.

00:12:52.000 And I've given that undersworn testimony.

00:12:54.000 I think now with the better drugs, honestly, we could probably prevent over 95% of hospitalization.

00:12:59.000 It should be a rare person who gets hospitalized after they receive very comprehensive outpatient treatment.

00:13:06.000 The treatment always pulls people through.

00:13:09.000 Well, Doctor, there's so many different ways I want to follow up with it.

00:13:12.000 The obvious, I just have to say it out loud: it's criminal that we aren't doing this.

00:13:16.000 You have saved lives.

00:13:17.000 You have helped me help other people save their life.

00:13:20.000 I have a dear friend.

00:13:21.000 I'm not going to say his name.

00:13:23.000 He's in the ministry.

00:13:24.000 He suffers from a muscular condition.

00:13:26.000 He's over 500 pounds, does not have use of lung function.

00:13:32.000 Let's just say he wouldn't be able to walk across the room like you and I would.

00:13:36.000 He got COVID, called me up.

00:13:37.000 I put him on the McCullough protocol or the Joe Rogan routine, whatever it is.

00:13:41.000 Blood oxygen level never went below 96, no hospitalization necessary.

00:13:46.000 We did get him in for monoclonal earlier than some might have recommended just because of his condition, but unvaccinated and the protocol worked.

00:13:55.000 So I want to just focus on one thing you mentioned because you said it quickly.

00:13:59.000 And we have some new listeners and we have some listeners that are just beginning to get exposed to this, doctor, because you've been in this since the very beginning.

00:14:07.000 And some of this we kind of get so used to saying we act as if everyone's heard it.

00:14:11.000 Just be very specific about the cleaning of the nose protocol because that is new for some people to hear.

00:14:19.000 Okay, we clean the nose with what's called virusidal treatment. 0.99

00:14:23.000 Now that's pavidone iodine, also known as betadyne.

00:14:27.000 It comes in a bottle.

00:14:29.000 It's a brown iodine solution.

00:14:30.000 It always comes in a 10% solution, which is standard.

00:14:34.000 So look for betadyne.

00:14:35.000 That's the brand name of it, pavadone iodine.

00:14:38.000 And then you take a half a teaspoon of that, mix it in a shot glass of water, 1.5 ounces, and then take a bulb syringe or a spray bottle and spray it way up in the nose.

00:14:50.000 And you got to sniff it back and choke on it a little bit and then spit it out.

00:14:53.000 That actually washes the back of the nose. 0.74

00:14:55.000 That kills the virus on contact.

00:14:57.000 You'll actually see the fever go down.

00:14:59.000 It really cleans out the sinuses and it works for other colds and sinus infections.

00:15:03.000 I tell you, I'm not going to ever suffer with a cold again now that I've learned this.

00:15:07.000 You know, sinus doctors have been doing this for years.

00:15:09.000 Once I started talking to dentists and sinus doctors, I go, yeah, we've been doing this forever.

00:15:13.000 I go, what?

00:15:14.000 They said, yeah, and now it turns out the studies are clear.

00:15:17.000 There's a meta-analysis by Chopra, randomized trial by Chowdhury.

00:15:21.000 It's clear it works.

00:15:23.000 It's unequivocal that it works.

00:15:25.000 And the bottom line is we can kill the virus at its source.

00:15:28.000 We know with the Omicron variant, it's multiplying 70 times faster than Delta.

00:15:34.000 We're talking a massive explosion in the nose.

00:15:36.000 That's where the fever is coming from.

00:15:38.000 Even if there's not much nasal congestion, hit it up in the nose.

00:15:41.000 It really works.

00:15:43.000 That's very helpful.

00:15:44.000 So, and I want to go just kind of piggyback off the end of your previous comment where you talk about all these treatments and the reduction of hospitalizations that could have been.

00:15:44.000 Thank you, doctor.

00:15:53.000 I'm going to ask you a difficult question: why is this not being done then?

00:15:57.000 If it's so obvious, is the science is overwhelming, which it is, and I've seen this anecdotally and personally. 0.53

00:16:03.000 I'm far from a clinical scientist or doctor, but I'm also not an idiot.

00:16:08.000 And I could see this stuff happening in real time.

00:16:11.000 Why is it that we are still going through this process of, oh, if your symptoms get bad enough, come to the hospital, we'll stick you in the corner, put you on a ventilator, and hope things get better.

00:16:20.000 Why aren't we doing this?

00:16:21.000 Well, we went through this exercise in the historic U.S. Senate testimony November 19th of 2020.

00:16:27.000 So it's earlier in the pandemic.

00:16:29.000 I was the lead witness.

00:16:30.000 You know, Americans saw this firsthand, where basically the minority witness played an academic game. 0.75

00:16:37.000 And the game is called you don't have enough evidence.

00:16:41.000 So anything that we proposed, oh, let's try hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and we looked at the studies.

00:16:46.000 The evidence was, the answer was, well, you know, the evidence isn't good enough that you have to do better.

00:16:50.000 You know, we need bigger studies.

00:16:52.000 We need more confidence.

00:16:55.000 And so it's a game that we play.

00:16:57.000 And sure, we'd always love more evidence.

00:16:59.000 Now, if the countries did 40,000 patient trials like they did the vaccine trials, we obviously could do anywhere from 30,000 to 45,000 patient trials of vaccines.

00:17:10.000 If we could do those trials and would have done those trials with drugs in combination early on, we would have the evidence that those who say we need it, we would have it.

00:17:19.000 But right now, I can tell you, I published the lead papers on this.

00:17:22.000 I said, listen, we can't wait for these studies.

00:17:24.000 We don't know if these guys are going to get off the dime or not.

00:17:27.000 We have to react on what's called the precautionary principle.

00:17:31.000 This is a mass casualty event.

00:17:32.000 People are dying.

00:17:33.000 We have to take action now.

00:17:35.000 We can't wait for those who say we need more evidence.

00:17:37.000 We look for signals of benefit, acceptable safety, put drugs in a combination, and we're humble and said, you know what?

00:17:44.000 We'll refine our approach if we see new signals coming in the future.

00:17:48.000 And we've published two papers on this.

00:17:50.000 Others have published their protocols.

00:17:51.000 America should be reassured that Dr. Pierre Corey and Paul Merrick, very well-respected critical care doctors, they independently came up with the Math Plus and IMath protocols independently of McCullough and my group over here.

00:18:05.000 We went communicating and we arrived at the same principles.

00:18:08.000 Didier Ridalt in France and Vladimir Zlenko, Monroe, New York, they arrived at the same principles.

00:18:14.000 Eugenia Barentios and Sankara Chetti down in South America and South Africa, respectively, they arrived at the same principles.

00:18:22.000 So what I'm telling you is we're on the right track.

00:18:27.000 Our public health agencies, I think, are running now well over a year behind in the data.

00:18:32.000 So either they know it can be treated and they're intentionally ignoring it, or they don't know.

00:18:38.000 We can't possibly know.

00:18:39.000 Scott Atlas, in his most recent book about the pandemic response, he thinks they don't know.

00:18:45.000 He thinks they're just incompetent at the top.

00:18:48.000 So, you know, he thinks they have good intentions.

00:18:50.000 They just can't stay on top of the data.

00:18:52.000 They're not America's A-team when it comes to science and data.

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00:20:01.000 Yeah, I'm smiling and laughing because, you know, I'm a, I never went to college.

00:20:06.000 I'm 28 years old and host a podcast.

00:20:08.000 And for whatever reason, you know, just using regular reasoning given to me from the Lord, I could say, oh, yeah, that person in my family that did vitamin D supplements and got monoclonal did well.

00:20:20.000 And that person that went to the hospital way too early died.

00:20:23.000 Like, I don't know if it's really that.

00:20:26.000 Maybe, and I think you're being nice.

00:20:27.000 And I appreciate the attempt at diplomacy because I actually want to believe our leaders are incompetent.

00:20:34.000 I pray they're incompetent because if they're malevolent, it's a completely different conclusion you come to, right?

00:20:41.000 I mean, it would be.

00:20:42.000 Well, you know, there's a legal standard and that is, you know, if we're going to have to, is that they knew or they should have known.

00:20:51.000 And either one of those is bad.

00:20:54.000 So it's either they knew that all this early treatment was going on.

00:20:58.000 They knew that these societies had formed.

00:21:00.000 They knew that these protocols were, they knew the telemedicine services were going on.

00:21:04.000 They knew the drugs were being used in combination or they should have known it.

00:21:08.000 But the bottom line is the early treatment movement left.

00:21:11.000 I mean, the ship has sailed and Americans have received early treatment. 0.98

00:21:15.000 And it's sad that there are patients hospitalized today who die today without early treatment.

00:21:20.000 But, you know, we were scheduled to have 2.1 million Americans die with COVID-19.

00:21:25.000 It's rounded off at about 800,000.

00:21:27.000 And then what we learned in the 800,000 is that about 90% of them died really driven by other comorbidities in a large extent.

00:21:36.000 And so it was only 10% of that that really died where COVID-19 was the lead and the primary cause of death.

00:21:42.000 So we're really down to about 60,000 deaths with COVID-19.

00:21:46.000 And we still think those could have been prevented with early treatment and certainly the comorbid, but it's far less than 2.1 million.

00:21:53.000 I think the early treatment made a huge impact.

00:21:56.000 I agree.

00:21:56.000 And I think your advocacy and Dr. Malone and getting on Joe Rogan and empowering people, it's been promising.

00:22:03.000 I'm still very upset with our public health officials because I deal in my own orbit of people that still worship at the state, the defeat of Fauci and that no matter what they say, they'll do.

00:22:13.000 So I want to ask you a question here.

00:22:15.000 United States, according to the news, reports more than 325,000 new COVID cases, the highest single day increase during the entire pandemic.

00:22:25.000 We are also saying that we're the most vaccinated we've been.

00:22:28.000 Do you think there's a correlation between a potential leaky vaccine and higher transmission or the virus kind of continuing to be spread?

00:22:38.000 Is there a correlation between the two?

00:22:40.000 Well, our public health officials announced this summer that the vaccines were not stopping transmission of Delta.

00:22:47.000 So we had a paper by Farrenhope.

00:22:49.000 We had one by Venkata Krishna.

00:22:51.000 We had a wedding in Houston where they're all vaccinated.

00:22:54.000 A cruise vessel from the military in the UK, they spread it.

00:22:54.000 They spread it.

00:22:59.000 Now we have countless examples, cruise ships, military vessels, lockdown groups of people, and they spread COVID to one another fully vaccinated.

00:23:08.000 I think everyone should know the vaccines don't stop people from spreading COVID-19.

00:23:14.000 That should be obvious to everyone.

00:23:17.000 So with that backdrop, we now have data from the United States, from Denmark, and from South Africa all showing with Omicron, the most recent variant, over 70% are fully vaccinated.

00:23:30.000 Omicron and what we're seeing right now of those record numbers of cases, it must be driven by the fully vaccinated.

00:23:36.000 We have 200 million Americans in the United States who have taken the vaccine.

00:23:40.000 The CDC says as of October that we have 146 million Americans that have already had COVID.

00:23:46.000 There's only 330 million Americans in the country.

00:23:50.000 So there's nowhere to go.

00:23:52.000 You can't say it's a problem of the unvaccinated anymore.

00:23:55.000 It's clearly driven by the vaccinated.

00:23:58.000 So according to the New York Times, it says that the likelihood of dying from COVID is much higher if you are unvaccinated.

00:24:09.000 Now, you ask, well, what about whether or not they got monoclonal antibodies or not?

00:24:13.000 Is there any evidence to show that this vaccine, we know it doesn't prevent you from getting the virus, which the vaccine is supposed to do.

00:24:19.000 Is there any evidence to show that it's an effective treatment?

00:24:24.000 Well, there's two papers to review on that.

00:24:27.000 One is by 1040 and colleagues, 1040, and published in JAMA.

00:24:32.000 Now, they demonstrated when they got into patients that they really knew what was going on in the hospital, vaccinated, unvaccinated.

00:24:39.000 They're admitted for COVID.

00:24:41.000 They're not admitted for other stuff.

00:24:42.000 They're admitted for COVID.

00:24:44.000 We know that the vaccines were associated with about a 59% reduction in progression of disease.

00:24:51.000 That means people getting sicker and sicker going on the ventilator.

00:24:53.000 And that the mortality among those fully vaccinated was between 6 and 7%.

00:25:00.000 And the mortality in those unvaccinated in the hospital of COVID-19 was between 8% and 9%.

00:25:06.000 So it was better for the vaccinated, but it wasn't a huge difference.

00:25:09.000 And then we have the CONE data from the VA.

00:25:13.000 And from the VA, they have over 700,000 patients.

00:25:16.000 So this is a huge sample size.

00:25:18.000 And when we look at survival, so the inverse of mortality, over age 65, there was a 12-point difference in survival among those who were positive for COVID-19, 12 points.

00:25:31.000 But under 65, one point difference.

00:25:35.000 One.

00:25:36.000 So I think when people are talking about mandates and people like you and me, we're talking about vaccines.

00:25:36.000 Wow.

00:25:41.000 We're thinking about people under 65.

00:25:43.000 I'm telling you, under age 65, the best data that we have, there is a 1% absolute survival battery.

00:25:51.000 And I also, and you made this point early on, which is the most important point, which is, and it's that, it's, it's, you know, you could hear a 10th grader say this.

00:25:58.000 Well, it's apples to oranges.

00:25:59.000 It kind of is because the question is, do you have a vaccinated person, unvaccinated person that had an early intervention, monoclonal antibodies, and the regimen?

00:26:07.000 That's the question, right?

00:26:09.000 I mean, the question is, does the vaccine help versus an unvaccinated person with the McCullough treatment?

00:26:17.000 That's a good point.

00:26:18.000 And all these analyses, they never take into consideration whether they got early treatment.

00:26:23.000 That's right.

00:26:23.000 I mean, I'd have to assume they didn't, but I've been asked, listen, I go on, I'm a frequent contributor to Fox News.

00:26:28.000 I was on last night with Sean Duffy, who's a former congressman, but I usually go on with Laura Ingram.

00:26:34.000 And Laura's asked me a million times, Dr. McCullough, is this a more serious strain?

00:26:38.000 I said, what dictates whether or not it's serious is whether or not they got early treatment.

00:26:43.000 What's the risk of hospitalization?

00:26:45.000 It depends.

00:26:45.000 Did they get treated or not?

00:26:47.000 The viral strain itself and the vaccine that people received is really nothing in comparison to the impact of early treatment.

00:26:57.000 And so you're comparing something that's completely in a lot of ways irrelevant.

00:27:01.000 Doctor, you've been very vocal about the potential downside of these vaccines.

00:27:06.000 I have as well.

00:27:07.000 For years, people used to come up to me at events with these binders full of information saying that I have to get more read up on vaccines.

00:27:15.000 And these are mostly mothers that claim that their children had adverse events to the vaccine of autism or whatever.

00:27:21.000 And I never really took it very, I want to say seriously.

00:27:24.000 I just was never that interested in it.

00:27:26.000 I have been very interested, though, in this particular vaccine and adverse events to it.

00:27:31.000 We just had an event in Phoenix, Arizona with over 10,000 people.

00:27:36.000 And I asked the audience, how many people in the room know somebody personally that's had a very serious adverse event to this vaccine?

00:27:42.000 Almost every single hand went up.

00:27:44.000 And I said, How many of you know someone who has had, who knows someone who has died from the vaccine?

00:27:49.000 Almost half the hands went up, doctor, in a room of 10,000 people.

00:27:52.000 Not reported by the media, not reported by the press.

00:27:56.000 Just the floor is yours.

00:27:57.000 Talk about this vaccine and talk about how careful people should be as far as giving this vaccine, especially to children, but the potential damage this vaccine could be doing to our general citizenry.

00:28:09.000 If we had proper safety oversight over the vaccine program, it would have been shut down in February because in February, we had 182 deaths by January 22nd.

00:28:19.000 We are over the line.

00:28:20.000 There shouldn't be more than 150 deaths for all the vaccines combined in the United States per year.

00:28:24.000 So we already had too many deaths.

00:28:26.000 There's only 27 million people vaccinated.

00:28:28.000 So in February, without shutting it down, we could predict that we would have a catastrophe if we'd go all the way up and vaccinate 200 million people.

00:28:37.000 And that's what we have.

00:28:38.000 We have a biological catastrophe on our hands.

00:28:41.000 The current numbers, and we should be very exact on this, through the CDC VARES system.

00:28:48.000 And these are basically certified permanent numbers in the VARES database.

00:28:54.000 We get a weekly update.

00:28:55.000 About half of these are domestic.

00:28:56.000 Half of these reported through the U.S. reporting system elsewhere, Caribbean and other places.

00:29:02.000 But these are human lives that are lost.

00:29:04.000 What the CDC is telling us certified 20,622 deaths as of December 17th, a total of 983,756 safety reports, over 350 hospitalizations or ER visits.

00:29:19.000 People have been seriously damaged.

00:29:21.000 We put in the hospital 12,317 cases of Bell's palsy, paralysis of the face.

00:29:26.000 We've had 20,560 cases of myocardial pericarditis.

00:29:32.000 The FDA says this occurs with Pfizer and Moderna and young people against it.

00:29:36.000 Shockingly, 34,615 individuals permanently disabled, permanently disabled.

00:29:44.000 Of the severe allergic reactions, life-threatening and anaphylaxis now, we have gone past 63,000 of these severe reactions.

00:29:55.000 These numbers are stunning.

00:29:57.000 They have far exceeded any safety boundaries for any product ever used in the history of mankind.

00:30:06.000 And they continue to mandate them for children as well.

00:30:12.000 I'm not going to get into the whole intentions thing.

00:30:14.000 We danced around that earlier.

00:30:17.000 What are some of the long-term consequences that we're going to see?

00:30:20.000 You just listed that off.

00:30:21.000 I think some of those numbers could potentially be low.

00:30:24.000 I mean, this could end up being one of them.

00:30:26.000 Let's talk about low for a second.

00:30:28.000 People said, okay, you know, these are just voluntarily reported.

00:30:33.000 We know from a paper by Meisner and colleagues published in Pediatrics a few years ago, 86% of those reports are done by doctors, nurses, coroners, paramedics, healthcare workers, the drug companies, people who think the vaccine caused it, 86% of the time.

00:30:47.000 So that's important.

00:30:48.000 These are filled out under threat of imprisonment or federal fines if they're falsified.

00:30:54.000 I mean, I tell you, this is a serious reporting thing.

00:30:57.000 Then they get a temporary number, and then the CDC finds out if this really happened.

00:31:01.000 Were they really hospitalized?

00:31:03.000 Did they really die?

00:31:04.000 And the CDC verifies it and gives a permanent number.

00:31:07.000 I'm telling you, these numbers are tight, and they represent a low number.

00:31:13.000 So this summer, a lawsuit was filed by lead attorney Tom Rens public information using a CDC whistleblower.

00:31:20.000 I'm sorry, a CMS whistleblower who had data in CMS about who took the vaccine and who died in a tight time window.

00:31:28.000 And the estimates there were from the country by extrapolation, 45,000 Americans had died by early summer.

00:31:36.000 And this was put to the United States in a lawsuit.

00:31:39.000 And so the understanding would be that this could be an under-reporting relationship of about five, five.

00:31:45.000 So the thought is, well, maybe COVID-19 is a bit more of something that's on people's minds.

00:31:51.000 So they're more likely to report it.

00:31:53.000 And then this paper hit recently from Columbia.

00:31:56.000 Panta Zatos is the first author.

00:31:59.000 And they have data from February to August of 2021.

00:32:05.000 And listen to this estimate of death, where they basically have said by temporal relationship that these are vaccine-associated deaths.

00:32:13.000 The number is 146 to 187,000 individuals in this independent report from Columbia using census and vaccine record data.

00:32:24.000 I can tell you, it's not surprising to me when you ask in a big crowd, who knows somebody who's died of the vaccine.

00:32:30.000 These numbers actually are cohesive.

00:32:34.000 They corroborate one another.

00:32:35.000 This is worse than a war.

00:32:37.000 This is worse than a war.

00:32:39.000 I don't see how the medical establishment is going to possibly say they're sorry to Americans after this.

00:32:46.000 This vaccine program with this mortality rate and this permanent disability rate and the fact that the cases are surging.

00:32:54.000 It's obvious the vaccines have completely failed at stopping COVID-19.

00:32:58.000 We have record numbers of cases right now.

00:33:00.000 We've had more cases and deaths since the start of the vaccine program than before we had vaccines.

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00:34:11.000 And one would assume that there's a correlation between the two, and that's hard to prove.

00:34:18.000 There's a website called healthfeedback.org.

00:34:21.000 They listened to your Joe Rogan interview that's been listened to by over 40 million people, by the way.

00:34:26.000 Congratulations.

00:34:27.000 The second most popular Joe Rogan interview ever is what I'm told.

00:34:31.000 It's spectacular and it's good for humanity.

00:34:33.000 It really is.

00:34:33.000 And you were so good in that interview.

00:34:35.000 They did their best to try to discredit you and they did an awful job of it.

00:34:40.000 I don't know if you saw this website or not, but they had some smart Alec go through your interview and they try to say, here's all the inaccurate claims.

00:34:48.000 I want to read one of them and I want you to expand upon it.

00:34:51.000 It's not inaccurate.

00:34:52.000 It isn't.

00:34:54.000 Which you said in the interview with Joe Rogan, you said, quote, you said, when you talk about an antiviral monoclonal antibody, it's a wonderful advance.

00:35:07.000 We've never had this before as far as treating COVID.

00:35:11.000 They said this was inaccurate.

00:35:14.000 In addition, you said, we now know that the spike protein after these vaccines is produced in the body for an uncontrolled quantity, uncontrolled duration of time.

00:35:23.000 A paper by Ogada, colleagues from Harvard, which shows the free-floating spike protein.

00:35:27.000 So that's by protein in the plasma.

00:35:30.000 Talk about the spike proteins and talk about why that makes this particular vaccine different.

00:35:35.000 So, the spike protein is the dangerous part of the virus that was actually manipulated in the lab of Wuhan, China, with what's called gain of function research, particularly at the furane cleavage joint, the hinge between the S1 outer segment, which binds to human cells, and the S2 segment that anchors it into the viral nucleocapsid.

00:35:53.000 The spike protein is 1200 amino acids.

00:35:56.000 It has multiple glycosylation side chains, and it is by design a lethal weapon.

00:36:03.000 Now, it's been shown in multiple studies.

00:36:05.000 It damages cells, it causes inflammation, it damages organs, including the brain, it damages the heart.

00:36:13.000 Paper by Avolio showed this heart muscle damage in the pericytes causes blood clotting, endothelial damage, and blood clotting.

00:36:21.000 Paper by Zhang and colleagues, which I'm a co-author on.

00:36:24.000 I'm telling you, this is tight.

00:36:25.000 The spike protein unequivocally causes damage in the human body.

00:36:29.000 Ogata showed after the first injection of messenger RNA, it's basically easily measurable for 14 days, but one individual actually was measurable out to 29 days.

00:36:38.000 I can tell you with COVID-19, the respiratory illness, with active treatment, we can clear the PCR within four days.

00:36:46.000 You know, we don't have two weeks of spike protein exposure systemically in well-treated patients.

00:36:51.000 This is scary that this happens after the vaccine.

00:36:54.000 It's all factual, it's all highly cited.

00:36:58.000 These fact-checking organizations, including this one, by the way, they've been fact-checked themselves and they go right back to the vaccine stakeholders.

00:37:06.000 Well, that's exactly what I'm saying.

00:37:07.000 Yeah, so what you're saying is the vaccine stakeholders are reading every word I said, and I'm glad I'm glad they're reading it, and because they're amplifying and highlighting these important analytic points.

00:37:21.000 So, you know, their goal is to try to discredit the information, but instead it's working against them because we know that they are a window to the vaccine stakeholders, which include actually the U.S. government, Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson Johnson, AstraZeneca, the Gates Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, Gavi, CEPI, World Health Organization.

00:37:44.000 We know who they represent.

00:37:46.000 So, you know, that is what we call the vaccine stakeholders.

00:37:49.000 I call them stakeholders, people call them the Cabal, the consortium.

00:37:53.000 You know, there is a group of very powerful, well-integrated, coordinated individuals who want to see the entire world vaccinated at very high frequencies.

00:38:04.000 We're not talking about a one-time shot.

00:38:06.000 We're talking about frequencies.

00:38:08.000 Now, today it hit the wires that boosters may last only 10 weeks.

00:38:12.000 So we're looking at very, very tight frequencies of repeated genetic injections, which code for the production of the spike protein.

00:38:20.000 Now, in a paper by Patterson, a second one by Banzel, suggesting that the spike protein probably lasts in the human body for over a year per injection.

00:38:28.000 So now, if we start injecting every three months or six months, there will be a progressive accumulation of this disease-causing protein in critical organs like the brain, the heart, bone marrow, and elsewhere.

00:38:40.000 Dr. Malone has been very articulate on this.

00:38:42.000 And I encourage we did an interview with everyone.

00:38:45.000 You've been amazing on this topic as well.

00:38:48.000 But Dr. Malone, especially on the mRNA issue, with his let me give you Malone update.

00:38:54.000 Today, he was permanently banned for Twitter.

00:38:57.000 So, if you want to follow up on that, and then tomorrow, he's going to appear on Joe Rogan.

00:39:03.000 So, I can tell you, we're going to have another three hours.

00:39:06.000 We'll see if Malone can handle three hours in the pit with Joe Rogan.

00:39:09.000 I told him to use the restroom ahead of time, don't drink any coffee because you got to be locked and loaded and ready to go.

00:39:16.000 I went 15 rounds with Joe Rogan and we got out.

00:39:19.000 He's a great guy, by the way.

00:39:20.000 We saw him in the lobby.

00:39:21.000 His eyes were as big as saucers.

00:39:22.000 He looked like he was shell-shocked.

00:39:24.000 I said, It looks like he just went 15 rounds.

00:39:25.000 I go, that was just the data.

00:39:27.000 I literally just presented the information.

00:39:29.000 There was no hyperbole, no speculation.

00:39:33.000 I just presented the data.

00:39:36.000 That's what America has heard.

00:39:37.000 I think that's the reason why I was on the Jonathan Berry show out of Houston today.

00:39:40.000 They said we just topped Elon Musk.

00:39:42.000 So I think it's number one.

00:39:43.000 We'll see if we'll see if Malone can take it to a higher level.

00:39:47.000 But yeah, that's the biggest thing that Joe Rogan's ever done because it's the biggest issue that Americans have faced.

00:39:53.000 It's not whether or not they drive a Tesla.

00:39:55.000 That's not the issue.

00:39:56.000 The issue is survival after COVID-19 and then how to navigate pandemic response.

00:40:01.000 It's a big deal.

00:40:02.000 You beat Elon Musk in the podcast charts.

00:40:05.000 You know this.

00:40:06.000 Joe Rogan is the number one podcaster on the planet.

00:40:09.000 And, you know, you reached more than 60 minutes, CNN, Hollywood, everything combined.

00:40:16.000 And so congratulations.

00:40:17.000 That's well earned.

00:40:18.000 And you're right.

00:40:19.000 This is the number one issue facing humanity and Americans.

00:40:22.000 We've been told things that are patently untrue and the opposite of the truth.

00:40:27.000 And people are now searching for a higher frequency.

00:40:30.000 They want to get towards truth, even if it might be contrary to what they've been told.

00:40:35.000 Okay, so I want to ask you a couple more questions here, and they're going to be kind of a little bit all over the place, but I've listened to hours of your content.

00:40:42.000 So I want to ask you this question: Should doctors who knowingly violated their Hippocratic oath and refused to prescribe early treatments be subject to some form of criminal prosecution and/or be called before Nuremberg.

00:40:56.000 And then can you expand on the Nuremberg Code?

00:41:00.000 Because there's been a lot of online chatter about that.

00:41:02.000 You've talked about it.

00:41:03.000 So it's a two-part question.

00:41:06.000 Okay, Nuremberg Code actually has to do with errors of commission.

00:41:11.000 So the Nuremberg Code came out of Nazi Germany, where Nazi doctors, actually German doctors, were co-opted by the government and actually under pressure and coercion and threat of reprisal, they basically forced German citizens into Nazi research, which was diabolical and horrible things happened to them.

00:41:31.000 And so doctors were actually involved in this.

00:41:34.000 And so in trials that happened in Nuremberg, Germany, a code was written to never let this happen again.

00:41:41.000 And this applies to our vaccines.

00:41:43.000 All the vaccines are researched.

00:41:44.000 They're all in investigation.

00:41:46.000 It says right in the consent form that you're participating in research.

00:41:49.000 It says that a doctor or any other entity may never apply any pressure, coercion, or threat of reprisal to have anybody be involved in research.

00:42:01.000 So that means no good doctor could ever tell a patient that they should take a COVID-19 vaccine.

00:42:07.000 They can weigh out the risks and benefits, but it's the patient's own free choice.

00:42:10.000 That means no employer could ever tell a patient that they have to take the vaccine.

00:42:15.000 That means no president of the United States through a press briefing or through a CMS mandate elsewhere could ever do that.

00:42:22.000 All of these entities have violated the Nuremberg Code.

00:42:26.000 Now, you could say, well, how could we ever put somebody on trial for the Nuremberg Code? 0.71

00:42:29.000 And actually, these would be trialed in international court or crimes against humanity.

00:42:34.000 In fact, those charges have been filed in multiple places now.

00:42:38.000 But you asked a question about errors of omission, about doctors actually not treating COVID patients.

00:42:45.000 And that one goes down to standard civil law.

00:42:48.000 And we do have laws related to medical malpractice.

00:42:51.000 And the two most common reasons for medical malpractice is failure to diagnose and failure to treat.

00:42:58.000 And we'd have to assume that the diagnosis of COVID-19 was made.

00:43:01.000 People knew there was no failure in diagnosing a patient.

00:43:04.000 Now the issue is: did they fail to treat them?

00:43:08.000 And the criteria that's held is what's called community standard of care.

00:43:13.000 So If a jury or if it was a bench trial judge, if they considered the community standard of care is some form of treatment that the treatment organizations had, and the very first home treatment guide was published by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons in October of 2020.

00:43:32.000 I had imagined from October 2020 forward, there could be a case for medical malpractice.

00:43:37.000 Before that time, people would say, listen, it was just too formative.

00:43:40.000 There was nothing established.

00:43:42.000 There weren't any guides or protocols.

00:43:44.000 There were no societies behind it.

00:43:46.000 But the standard is not how many randomized trials or the NIH or what have you.

00:43:51.000 It's actually community standards.

00:43:53.000 What would be considered a community standard of care?

00:43:55.000 So, in my community, which is the patients I serve, I've always treated them appropriately.

00:44:01.000 So, I would imagine I could not be sued for failure to treat.

00:44:07.000 Now, a doctor right next to me who never took care of a patient and just let the patients get sick, they could be at risk.

00:44:14.000 And so, yeah, I hope they do get held accountable.

00:44:18.000 I'm not optimistic about that.

00:44:20.000 So, I want to ask you about another story.

00:44:22.000 We're starting to see from big news.

00:44:24.000 They said the flu took a year off last year, and now the flu is back.

00:44:29.000 The magical disappearance of the flu is what they call it.

00:44:33.000 The current PCR test they're saying will be soon phased out for new tests that will try to distinguish better between flu and COVID.

00:44:41.000 Bill Gates bought big shares of a new testing company.

00:44:44.000 Can you talk a little bit about this?

00:44:46.000 We get a ton of questions about this on our program as it relates to the flu and the virus, the COVID virus.

00:44:55.000 What's the truth behind all this?

00:44:58.000 Okay, well, let's just take the flu test first.

00:45:00.000 The flu test is a PCR test.

00:45:03.000 The flu test always could pick up the flu.

00:45:06.000 Okay, so we got that.

00:45:07.000 There's a whole bunch of either multiplex testing or single flu testing.

00:45:11.000 You know, that's, you know, that's good enough.

00:45:14.000 Now, the original COVID PCR test, polymerase chain reaction test, the original methods came from the CDC because companies didn't know COVID-19 was coming.

00:45:23.000 So, the laboratory-derived assays that all the health systems and hospitals did, and they all had to apply for their own EUAs.

00:45:29.000 It was very burdensome for every hospital to do this.

00:45:32.000 You got 5,600 hospitals in the United States.

00:45:35.000 They basically used the CDC methodology and they emulated that.

00:45:39.000 And so, for a period of time during the pandemic, for variable periods of time, hospitals actually relied on the CDC methodology.

00:45:46.000 Now, almost all the departments of community health, to my knowledge, relied on the CDC methodology.

00:45:53.000 What happened was over time, you know, we got Quest and Lab Corp, the big labs, they moved in, they got their own PCR test, they got their own approval for their PCR tests, their own methods, and those PCR tests, my understanding, is secure.

00:46:07.000 So, probably the vast majority of Americans who went to an urgent care and they got a PCR test through, you know, Quest or Lab Corp or Abbott, what have you, they're fine.

00:46:16.000 But all the people went to the city testing centers, those who had the diagnosis arrived at the hospital.

00:46:21.000 It's possible that their CDC test, which now the CDC has told us, it couldn't tell between flu and COVID.

00:46:31.000 So, you can imagine, and this would be worrisome.

00:46:33.000 Can you imagine a senior citizen is at a nursing home, they get sick, they go to the local hospital, they get a swab, and it says COVID.

00:46:42.000 Well, if nobody thought to check a separate flu test and really diagnose the flu, they would have been diagnosed with COVID.

00:46:49.000 And chances are would have been isolated, would have been admitted, maybe received remdesivir or dexamethasone, barcinitib or tozolizumab.

00:46:58.000 They would have gotten a lot of treatments that would be inappropriate, potentially harmful, and the whole time misdiagnosed flu for COVID.

00:47:08.000 And so, you know, this is possibly went on.

00:47:12.000 I had a conversation regarding Scott Atlas, and you should bring him on.

00:47:15.000 He's got a different view.

00:47:16.000 He's analyzed this.

00:47:17.000 He don't think, he doesn't think this happened at all because influenza went down everywhere in the world.

00:47:22.000 And he said it couldn't be due to the CDC test that explains this, that the worldwide reduction in flu was something else.

00:47:29.000 You know, I'm not so sure, but it's uncanny.

00:47:32.000 You know, in 2017, we had about 72,000 flu deaths in the United States.

00:47:37.000 And people with influenza, they die of secondary staphylococcal pneumonias or streptococcal pneumonias in general.

00:47:42.000 It's a different death pattern, but it affects our seniors.

00:47:46.000 So, you know, if those 70,000 deaths, the flu deaths, in a sense, became COVID deaths, and we know that of COVID deaths, 90% of them had significant comorbidities, which the flu deaths would as well.

00:47:59.000 We're still down to attribution of who really died of COVID, a much smaller number, maybe less than 100,000.

00:48:06.000 It's hard to know.

00:48:06.000 I take the bigger number just because, you know, 800,000, that's what we have to work with.

00:48:11.000 And when I testified under oath, November 19th of 2020, I said 50% of those deaths by that time period could have been spared with early treatment.

00:48:19.000 And then Texas Senate testimony, again, I'm under oath.

00:48:22.000 I put that number as of March 10th, 2021, up to 85% of the deaths could have been spared.

00:48:29.000 I have some additional Senate testimony coming up next month, and I'm likely to come in at about 95% of people could have been spared with early treatment.

00:48:39.000 And I can tell you that those are big numbers.

00:48:42.000 Historians will record.

00:48:45.000 And I think every doctor, every hospital, and every clinic better be able to say they did their best for patients.

00:48:54.000 And I can tell you, taking a senior citizen and handing them a positive test result and telling them to go home and wait till they get sick enough to where they can't breathe, that's not good enough. 1.00

00:49:04.000 And that's far from being good enough.

00:49:07.000 And many in the future probably will say that was malpractice.

00:49:10.000 That was failure.

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00:50:19.000 It's criminal and it's evil.

00:50:21.000 And I mean, I go here in Scottsdale for IVs.

00:50:25.000 I like it a lot.

00:50:26.000 And the people that do the IVs, they also work at the hospitals.

00:50:29.000 And I just asked them a very basic question.

00:50:31.000 This is far from the McCullough treatment or regimen, but I said, hey, at your hospitals, do you guys give a vitamin D booster shot when you get a COVID positive patient?

00:50:40.000 Oh, no, we don't have vitamin D in our hospital.

00:50:42.000 Oh, really?

00:50:44.000 Just like that.

00:50:44.000 Let's just start with that, right?

00:50:46.000 Doctor, I mean, forget all the other stuff.

00:50:48.000 I say, I say, wait, what do you mean?

00:50:49.000 You don't, they said, yeah, we don't have, you know, because vitamin D, you can't do it intravenously.

00:50:53.000 It has to be fat, it's fat-soluble.

00:50:55.000 I said, you're trying to tell me that you don't give.

00:50:57.000 So you have basically, you have 80-year-olds where vitamin D levels are like four, right?

00:51:03.000 So bad.

00:51:04.000 You know, they don't get outside much.

00:51:06.000 And the one thing that could potentially help them could, it's not a silver bullet, but there is a correlation with higher vitamin D levels and the ability to survive the cytokosine storm.

00:51:16.000 And they say, no, we don't do that.

00:51:17.000 I said, well, that's interesting.

00:51:18.000 And so then I asked another person, a politician who is supposed to be on my side, but isn't.

00:51:25.000 And I said, why is it that the Arizona Department of Health has not run one advertisement that I've heard advertising where the monoclonal antibody treatment centers are in Arizona?

00:51:34.000 Right, Doctor?

00:51:37.000 Yeah, that's a great point.

00:51:38.000 You know, when we call up CVS and Walgreens, we always have to go for this phone tree about if you want a COVID-19 vaccine.

00:51:46.000 And I can tell you, you know, people haven't wanted vaccines since April.

00:51:49.000 The rates of interest in vaccination are zero.

00:51:52.000 Nobody wants these vaccines.

00:51:54.000 In fact, these have been on the answering machine since October of last year, even before the vaccines were approved.

00:51:59.000 They were pre-advertising the vaccines, which violates the law.

00:52:02.000 Actually, can't do that.

00:52:04.000 But instead, every day, my phone has been blowing up today with requests on how do I get monoclonal antibodies?

00:52:11.000 How do I get early treatment?

00:52:12.000 What do I do next?

00:52:13.000 Blowing up every day.

00:52:15.000 We think we have 500 doctors taking care of the whole nation.

00:52:19.000 And patients have lost trust in their doctors.

00:52:21.000 They've lost trust in their healthcare system.

00:52:23.000 So fascinating.

00:52:24.000 500 doctors taking care of the whole nation.

00:52:26.000 You're right.

00:52:27.000 And I want to say again, Doctor, we get emails from people: Dr. McCullough saved my life.

00:52:31.000 You know, zinc, azithromycin, whatever the regimen is, right?

00:52:35.000 And I could list it off at the top of my head.

00:52:36.000 You did it earlier in the show, but you put enough of these things with early intervention, your odds are going to increase at every point of early intervention, right?

00:52:44.000 It's all a matter of, especially of playing the odds and depending on your age and comorbidities and, you know, any other underlying health factors.

00:52:52.000 But, doctor, can you talk about that?

00:52:53.000 500 doctors?

00:52:54.000 That's fascinating.

00:52:56.000 Well, the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, they keep a roster and they expand it once a month.

00:53:03.000 And there's a way to sign up.

00:53:04.000 Doctors can go online and say, yeah, I treat COVID patients.

00:53:07.000 Can you list me so people can find me?

00:53:09.000 And it's numbers roughly 500.

00:53:12.000 Now, this is extraordinary.

00:53:13.000 That means there's a million doctors in the United States that basically sit down the sidelines.

00:53:18.000 We got half a million nurse practitioners and PAs.

00:53:21.000 What are they doing?

00:53:22.000 I mean, we're flooded with patients.

00:53:24.000 I mean, we have an enormous need.

00:53:27.000 And you can look at it and say, listen, what if I'm wrong?

00:53:30.000 What if I'm wrong?

00:53:32.000 I've basically advised people on some vitamins and supplements, some treatments in the nose, and some prescription things that really don't work.

00:53:42.000 That I've basically over-treated some patients for a potentially fatal disease.

00:53:46.000 You know what?

00:53:47.000 I'd probably do that over and over again.

00:53:49.000 I'm going to give my best shot to try to help somebody.

00:53:52.000 I don't think anybody can criticize me for using monoclonal antibodies.

00:53:56.000 I mean, come on, the FDA approves these.

00:53:58.000 These are emergency use authorized.

00:54:00.000 These are randomized trials published in the best journals.

00:54:02.000 How could I possibly be criticized for advocating monoclonal antibodies?

00:54:08.000 Okay, so if I'm wrong, then I was wrong in using monoclonal antibodies.

00:54:12.000 I was wrong in these assistive drugs.

00:54:15.000 And if I'm wrong about the vaccines, then I was overly concerned over perfectly safe and effective vaccines.

00:54:23.000 I was just overly concerned.

00:54:25.000 But Charlie, what if I'm right?

00:54:28.000 What if I am right?

00:54:30.000 Think about the implications of a massive number of people worldwide who could have been saved with early treatments.

00:54:38.000 And now a massive number of people who have died, have been injured and been harmed with these vaccines.

00:54:43.000 What if I'm right?

00:54:44.000 You can see the gravitas, the gravity scales here, right?

00:54:49.000 You know, if I'm right, I'm right on, I think, one of the absolute biggest colossal issues of modern human times, if I'm right.

00:54:58.000 Well, the species, and it's interesting.

00:55:00.000 So I'm a big fan of C.S. Lewis, and he has this portion of Mere Christianity where he talks about atheism versus Christianity.

00:55:07.000 And he says, in order to be a Christian, you don't have to believe every part of the Bible, but in order to be an atheist, you have to believe none of it.

00:55:16.000 And so basically, the odds that he phrases in Mere Christianity is basically, you must dismiss the whole body of the metaphysical inquiry.

00:55:26.000 Or you could say, yeah, I believe in Jesus.

00:55:29.000 I believe in the Bible.

00:55:30.000 I'm still wrestling through some of this other stuff.

00:55:33.000 And the point is that in order for the people that oppose you to be right, you must be wrong about every treatment.

00:55:41.000 You must be wrong about every intervention.

00:55:44.000 It's impossible.

00:55:45.000 It's an insane argument.

00:55:48.000 You know, Charlie, I'm humble.

00:55:50.000 And I got to tell you what, you know, I read the data and I was looking at this pandemic, you know, day by day.

00:55:58.000 I've reviewed thousands of reports and I told Americans for months that natural immunity was a robust, complete endurance.

00:56:04.000 It's one in one.

00:56:05.000 And I want, you know, it was one and done.

00:56:07.000 And when the data broke on Omicron, I was the first to get out and tell America, listen, for the first time, natural immunity is failing and Omicron is breaking through.

00:56:17.000 What does that tell you?

00:56:18.000 That tells you intellectual honesty.

00:56:21.000 And intellectual honesty means that one is able to adapt to the data and be honest in the interpretation.

00:56:28.000 I didn't double and triple down on this and say, yeah, natural immunity is holding on forever.

00:56:32.000 Are you kidding me?

00:56:33.000 In a heartbeat, when I became convinced and it was clear and convincing evidence, I quickly told America that's the most responsible thing I can do as a doctor in a position of authority.

00:56:45.000 Can you imagine those who are doubling and tripling down on the vaccines right now?

00:56:49.000 As Omicron is just pouring into the vaccinated population?

00:56:53.000 Is there the absence of intellectual honesty, the absence of humility, of understanding that we're dealing with something that's far beyond our abilities to control?

00:57:05.000 I think historians are going to write a lot about this.

00:57:08.000 And you're making history with this really insightful, really series of investigations that you've done.

00:57:14.000 So in closing here, I want to ask you just about some personal, just like a personal question.

00:57:18.000 I mean, you've dedicated your life to being a doctor.

00:57:21.000 You're very well respected.

00:57:24.000 And a couple of years ago, you couldn't have imagined have been the most downloaded podcast of the top podcaster on the planet, right?

00:57:32.000 Just not to build up your ego a little bit, doctor, but Joe Rogan has some people that are a big deal that come on his podcast.

00:57:39.000 I'm talking about people that like hold their breath for like half an hour underwater, okay?

00:57:44.000 Or he has Kevin Hart or comedians or the richest man on the planet or Elon Musk.

00:57:49.000 You've beat them all, right?

00:57:51.000 The doctor who looks at data and is willing to talk about it.

00:57:55.000 I first just want to ask, what is that like for you personally?

00:57:57.000 How are you processing that?

00:58:00.000 You're the most popular person on the podcast space ever.

00:58:05.000 You know, before this, I was a regular doctor, but I was pretty high up in my field.

00:58:10.000 Like you pointed out, I was the president of a medical society.

00:58:12.000 I'm a textbook editor.

00:58:15.000 I had testified with the Congressional Oversight Panel in 2007.

00:58:19.000 I was on C-SPAN for hours.

00:58:21.000 I had actually kind of already been out there, you know, in Dowd Lecture at Harvard, New York Academy of Sciences.

00:58:26.000 I've kind of done a lot.

00:58:28.000 But, you know, I have to tell you that in the last two years, it's been extraordinary.

00:58:35.000 You know, who's one of my friends who's been to my house is Eric Clapton.

00:58:39.000 Eric's a good guy.

00:58:40.000 He wanted to meet me.

00:58:40.000 He reached out to me.

00:58:41.000 He wanted to meet my wife.

00:58:43.000 My wife told him, you know, she's a great cook.

00:58:46.000 And we invited him over.

00:58:47.000 And I met Eric's personal physician, Dermot Flynn's a great guy and his personal assistant.

00:58:53.000 And went to practice sessions.

00:58:55.000 And I've met movie stars and all different types of people.

00:59:00.000 You know, early on in the Trump administration, Peter Navarro gave me a ring.

00:59:04.000 And I helped advise and trying to help people in the White House get through the pandemic, help with pandemic response as I could.

00:59:12.000 I've had lots of contact with state centers.

00:59:14.000 I'd love to help out the current administration.

00:59:17.000 I'm kind of a middle-of-the-road voter.

00:59:19.000 I'm not a hardcore right-winger or left-winger.

00:59:22.000 I'm kind of right in the middle.

00:59:24.000 And I've had a lot of people reach out to me because they can see how important this is.

00:59:32.000 They can see how critical this is.

00:59:35.000 And I have been very, very clear with America.

00:59:38.000 I've been right on point.

00:59:40.000 And people always say, why aren't you worried about being attacked?

00:59:42.000 I've never had anybody actually directly engage me on this.

00:59:48.000 You know, the fear on the other side of knowing that truly the approach that we're seeing is wrong.

00:59:56.000 The fear is extraordinary.

00:59:59.000 So, you know, a group, whoever it is, hires some fact checkers that work for some other company and they do some sniping from the side.

01:00:08.000 You know, there were some threat letters that went out, general threat letters.

01:00:11.000 One was from the Federation of State Medical Boards.

01:00:14.000 And it said, you know, we want to take away licenses for doctors who are spreading COVID misinformation.

01:00:22.000 And someone asked me about that.

01:00:23.000 I said, you know what?

01:00:24.000 I want them to call.

01:00:26.000 I want a meeting with them.

01:00:28.000 And we're going to go through a very serious, public, recorded review of the data on vaccine safety and efficacy and early treatment.

01:00:38.000 They haven't called.

01:00:39.000 That would be a widely viewed YouTube video.

01:00:43.000 Listen, they haven't called, Charlie.

01:00:44.000 My point is, my point is they haven't called.

01:00:47.000 And neither has the American Board.

01:00:48.000 And listen, I've gotten these threat letters.

01:00:50.000 They always come in with no phone call, no due process, nothing.

01:00:54.000 And all they've done, and I've gotten a bunch of them, all they've done is trigger a bunch of Freedom of Information Act requests and letters of intent from me to find out what's behind all this.

01:01:04.000 So now they're in deep trouble.

01:01:06.000 I mean, you can't imagine how much trouble people on the other side are in.

01:01:11.000 I'm in zero trouble, zero.

01:01:13.000 All I've tried to do is help people and help America and help the world through this.

01:01:17.000 People on the other side, Charlie, are in deep water and it's getting deeper quickly.

01:01:23.000 So that'll be my final question: which is: as you've been a doctor and you articulated it wonderfully, super well respected.

01:01:31.000 What do you have to say about doctors that you kind of grew up in the profession alongside?

01:01:37.000 People you went to school with, people that you had a lot of respect for.

01:01:41.000 And I'm sure some doctors have been willing to open their eyes, and I'm sure some doctors have been very supportive.

01:01:47.000 But I'm going to venture a guess that based on your earlier point of 500 total doctors holding up the entire country, I'm sure you've had some disappointments in your industry, in your profession.

01:01:58.000 Talk a little bit about that.

01:01:59.000 As someone who probably held most doctors in really high stead prior to this, how have you been able to, how have you processed all that?

01:02:07.000 I think these doctors need a pathway back.

01:02:10.000 You know, we need, we have a million doctors.

01:02:12.000 We need them.

01:02:13.000 They can't all be sued for malpractice.

01:02:15.000 They need a pathway back.

01:02:17.000 They need, in a sense, almost an amnesty pathway back to understand that, listen, they were on the sidelines, gripped in fear, in personal fear.

01:02:27.000 They're probably in massive personal fear right now of the failure of the vaccines and seeing people pour in getting sick with COVID, fully vaccinated.

01:02:36.000 But they need an amnesty pathway back and they need an olive branch to understand that, you know, There is a concept that if you see wrongdoing going on, like people not being treated, and you sit by and do nothing, that complicity also is committing wrongdoing.

01:02:55.000 And they need some pathway out of it because they, in a sense, have supported each other.

01:03:01.000 You know, entire health systems have sent emails saying don't use hydroxychloroquine, don't use ivermectin, don't treat patients.

01:03:07.000 The American Medical Association has a campaign to abolish the use of ivermectin.

01:03:13.000 Since when do you want to abolish the use of a generic medicine?

01:03:17.000 You know, so there's going to be have to be kind of a dissolution of these horrific things.

01:03:23.000 In a sense, these are this is almost like Nuremberg 2.0.

01:03:26.000 There's going to have to be some recognition reconciliation of this.

01:03:29.000 I don't know if this is going to happen in our lifetimes or not, but you can imagine with the number of lives lost.

01:03:36.000 You know, sadly, in Nazi Germany, the lives lost of Jews and non-Jews in these atrocities, and some estimates are 16 million.

01:03:44.000 Right now, we're going to be hitting a million Americans worldwide.

01:03:48.000 That number is going to be large.

01:03:50.000 But the complicity and the loss of life of these numbers that will continue to grow is going to have to be reconciled with.

01:03:58.000 Largely preventable, unfortunately.

01:03:59.000 Doctor, I want to be really respectful of your time.

01:04:01.000 How can people follow you or support you?

01:04:04.000 You can follow me on America Loud Talk Radio, the McCullough Report.

01:04:08.000 For good resources, including vaccine safety, efficacy, home treatment guides, go to Truth for Health Foundation, truthforhealth.org.

01:04:16.000 And then for support, for legal support, travel, IT, and believe me, I need it with Malone getting permanently banned from Twitter.

01:04:23.000 I am so tight on the rules right now.

01:04:26.000 I have to have social media expert help.

01:04:29.000 Go to GiveSendGo.

01:04:31.000 Give SendGo is a Christian crowdfunding site.

01:04:33.000 It's legitimate.

01:04:35.000 The only one under McCullough is me.

01:04:36.000 You'll see a picture of me on stage with a big crowd.

01:04:39.000 That's legitimate.

01:04:40.000 I've talked to them.

01:04:41.000 I've made sure that there's only one legitimate fund that can receive.

01:04:45.000 All the other ones out there, by the way, are fake.

01:04:47.000 So anything on GoFundMe or any of these other things that show me, those are fake funds.

01:04:51.000 Somebody else is trying to make money off of my efforts with humanity.

01:04:56.000 So go to Give SendGo, GiveSend, Go, GSG.

01:04:59.000 It's a Christian crowdfunding site and it's legitimate.

01:05:02.000 And support there is wonderful.

01:05:04.000 And believe me, I've already spent it all because of not only just legal, but travel, IT, et cetera.

01:05:04.000 And it's raised money.

01:05:12.000 So it's well worth it because there's two of them on GiveSendGo.

01:05:15.000 There's support Dr. Peter McCullough by you, another one by Mark Brugge.

01:05:19.000 Which one is it?

01:05:20.000 Just so our audience knows.

01:05:21.000 One by Mark Brugge.

01:05:22.000 There's one on the stage that has some green vertical lines.

01:05:26.000 Yes.

01:05:27.000 That one is just a busted account.

01:05:30.000 If you notice, it's deactivated.

01:05:31.000 You can't give to it.

01:05:32.000 Got it.

01:05:33.000 And I asked them, Charlie, thanks for looking.

01:05:35.000 I asked for that to be taken down.

01:05:37.000 And, you know, I'm a doctor.

01:05:38.000 I'm terrible at IT.

01:05:40.000 So there's somebody working on it.

01:05:41.000 But the one that's live with me on the stage there in the crowd, that one's legit.

01:05:46.000 Okay.

01:05:46.000 So the one that says help Dr. Peter McCullough with legal IT travel costs.

01:05:50.000 It's givesend.co.com/slash G2DR5.

01:05:55.000 And it's the one of you on stage with khakis on and a blue jacket, just so our audience knows which one it is.

01:06:01.000 So that they that's it.

01:06:02.000 That's it.

01:06:02.000 Thank you.

01:06:03.000 They could support you and they should.

01:06:04.000 Doctor, thank you so much for this.

01:06:06.000 I have so many more questions, but you're a hero.

01:06:08.000 You have courage and you have saved lives.

01:06:10.000 And so you will be blessed by that.

01:06:11.000 So thank you.

01:06:12.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:06:13.000 Great interview.

01:06:13.000 Talk to you soon.

01:06:14.000 Thanks.

01:06:14.000 Bye-bye.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 30, 2021

Uncensored with Dr. Peter McCullough

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