The Charlie Kirk Show - Understanding the Slow-Motion Secession Happening Right Now in America

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00:01:30.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:04:21.000 I saw a segment last evening on Sean Hannity's program with a guy who is advocating for the counties of eastern Oregon to secede from Oregon and become part of Idaho.

00:04:37.000 With him was a friend of mine, Bill White, who was advocating that Buckhead County, which is a not Buckhead County, but Buckhead, the city or the region of Atlanta, divest itself from the city of Atlanta.

00:04:50.000 The story was written up in the New York Times about Idaho back on May 22nd.

00:04:55.000 Political divisions in Oregon can be to a great degree measured by a river.

00:04:59.000 The day shoots with winds, its snakey, circuitous way through the state's midsection.

00:05:08.000 Mike McCarter says, quote, those of us in rural Oregon are written off.

00:05:13.000 The greater Idaho movement that spurred the special election vote on Tuesday has been simmering for years, but it's picked up steam, as the New York Times says, amid growing political polarization that accompanied the November presidential election.

00:05:27.000 Voters in two other counties, Union and Jefferson, voted last fall to address this question.

00:05:33.000 And these counties have voted that they want to leave Oregon and be part of Idaho.

00:05:40.000 We are seeing something that is happening in front of our very eyes, and most people are not mentioning it.

00:05:51.000 Now, I'm about to diagnose this, but I'm not going to say whether or not this is a good thing or a bad thing.

00:05:56.000 This is simply and merely an observation.

00:06:00.000 But it's very important as we ask ourselves, what kind of nation do we want to be?

00:06:05.000 And are we going to be a nation much longer?

00:06:08.000 We are living through slow-motion secession.

00:06:12.000 That is a hard thing to say.

00:06:15.000 But in more ways than one, we are already seeing this question that I get asked all the time when I travel the country to churches, to tea party groups, to Republican dinners.

00:06:26.000 People say, Charlie, are we going to have secession anytime soon?

00:06:31.000 And I answer the question the best I can because for good reason, that word secession brings back memories of the American Civil War.

00:06:40.000 Abraham Lincoln argued that secession was not a constitutionally granted right.

00:06:45.000 He called the South's declaration against the North.

00:06:51.000 He said it was an insurrection.

00:06:52.000 He did not say it was a secession.

00:06:55.000 Abraham Lincoln wrote extensively, and he said this in his most famous speech outside of the Gettysburg Address, the Cooper Union speech, where he said, the only way we are going to appease the South is if we no longer support the abolition of slavery.

00:07:11.000 So for good reason, this term secession kind of stops people in their tracks.

00:07:16.000 They don't like talking about it.

00:07:18.000 And I don't either.

00:07:20.000 I don't think this is a healthy thing.

00:07:21.000 I think this is a negative thing.

00:07:23.000 But instead, I'm going to tell you what's happening.

00:07:25.000 I'm always going to tell you the truth because this is not like anything we've seen in recent memory.

00:07:34.000 People are already, in real time, divesting themselves from the attachment of the broader nation.

00:07:43.000 We are heading for a collision course.

00:07:45.000 Some would call it a national car crash.

00:07:48.000 We are building, if you could even call it that, on fault lines.

00:07:53.000 The fracturing is real.

00:07:55.000 The cracks are emerging.

00:07:58.000 And we are living through a separation.

00:08:01.000 Thankfully, right now, it is mostly peaceful.

00:08:04.000 In fact, it's entirely peaceful.

00:08:06.000 We have people that are trying to use the constitutional process to either leave the state that they're in or enter a new state.

00:08:14.000 So let me give you three examples that we're already living through this slow-motion secession, that we're already dividing ourselves into many countries, that we're already asking ourselves the question, what do I have in common with that guy from San Francisco?

00:08:29.000 I don't like him.

00:08:31.000 He doesn't like me.

00:08:32.000 Are we even in the same country?

00:08:35.000 Now, again, I want to re-emphasize this.

00:08:37.000 This is a very provocative topic.

00:08:39.000 This is something that Americans don't like talking about.

00:08:42.000 I am not saying this is a positive thing.

00:08:44.000 In fact, I'm generally saying this is a negative thing, but I'm saying it's happening.

00:08:49.000 And I'm not even saying that it's happening for people that want to sow division.

00:08:55.000 I think it's happening because people want to preserve something that they can recognize or live in a place where their values and their ideas are not constantly under attack.

00:09:06.000 As I mentioned, in Idaho, we are seeing this happen.

00:09:11.000 Almost all of eastern Idaho wants to become part, all of eastern Oregon wants to become a part of Idaho.

00:09:18.000 McCarter says, most of us in rural Oregon realize that whatever Portland or the Willamette Valley area wants, they get.

00:09:24.000 Do we have freedom to vote and who want to govern us?

00:09:27.000 That's the question.

00:09:30.000 Tim Dye, a professor of economics at the University of Oregon, go ducks, he says, these are really small places and tough places to make a living.

00:09:39.000 Now, if you look at the map of eastern Oregon, I've been there many times.

00:09:43.000 It's a completely different culture than what happens in Portland or Eugene or in Salem or in Corvallis.

00:09:51.000 My father, my uncle, and my aunt all went to the University of Oregon, so I understand Oregon rather well.

00:09:57.000 We're also very big Ducks fans in our family.

00:10:00.000 But this fracturing that you're seeing in Oregon is just one of many examples.

00:10:05.000 As I mentioned, this is happening in Buckhead, the Beverly Hills of Atlanta.

00:10:09.000 They say, we do not want to be part of Atlanta anymore.

00:10:11.000 We want to govern ourselves.

00:10:13.000 This also has happened in Virginia.

00:10:16.000 In Virginia, there are five counties that have petitioned and want to leave Virginia and become part of West Virginia.

00:10:25.000 You might not have heard that story.

00:10:27.000 And Governor Jim Justice from West Virginia will happily accept them.

00:10:31.000 For decades, there have been rumblings of Texas that want to secede.

00:10:36.000 But what if I told you that the slow-motion secession is happening in a way that you might not realize?

00:10:42.000 Did you know we're living through the greatest migration of states since Reconstruction, since blacks left the American South and came to North in the 1870s, 1880s, and 1890s?

00:10:55.000 Whether it be people going from California to Texas, from New York to Florida, from Illinois to Florida, this movement from one state to the other, which I know a lot of you have done yourselves, is a form that's playing into this broader idea and this movement of separation.

00:11:15.000 Now, this word secession, where does it come from?

00:11:19.000 Well, obviously, it comes from secede, or it comes from, I no longer want to have an official attachment.

00:11:25.000 Now, let me re-emphasize this point.

00:11:28.000 Some libertarians disagree with this.

00:11:30.000 Tom Woods, who I think is very smart, he had a big impact on how I view a lot of things.

00:11:34.000 He's very libertarian.

00:11:36.000 He says that there's a constitutional right of secession.

00:11:39.000 Respectfully, Tom Woods, there is not a constitutional right of secession.

00:11:44.000 The Founding Fathers did not articulate that, and the Founding Fathers did not enumerate that in the greatest political document ever.

00:11:52.000 I think this is part of the strategy, though.

00:11:55.000 I think part of the strategy of what we are seeing culturally and politically is they want to encourage these movements, especially from foreign adversaries like the Chinese Communist Party.

00:12:07.000 They want to see America no longer be the United States of America, but instead 12, 15, 17, 20, 25 countries.

00:12:15.000 And where this trend is heading right now, that's where we're going.

00:12:19.000 We are heading towards, some would call it, a national divorce.

00:12:23.000 And the question in divorce is, well, who gets to keep the kids and who gets to see them when?

00:12:29.000 Because what's going to happen is then Tennessee and Kentucky might form their own coalition of states.

00:12:33.000 The Dakota's country might form their own area.

00:12:36.000 And if you think I'm being a little bit hyperbolic or alarmist, I'm only beginning the argument of telling you what we are living through right now, which is a generally negative thing.

00:12:48.000 And then we are going to talk about solutions and a remedy of how we can pivot away from this.

00:12:54.000 At its current trajectory, we are flirting with, self-separating, and dicing up the greatest nation and republic ever to exist.

00:13:07.000 Hey guys, you guys have heard me talk with my friend Kelly Shackelford before.

00:13:11.000 Kelly Shackelford from First Liberty is a good person.

00:13:15.000 Look, we've talked about court packing.

00:13:16.000 It's the tool of left-wing authoritarians.

00:13:19.000 Hugo Chavez packed Venezuela's Supreme Court with his socialist cronies and paved the way for his tyrannical regime.

00:13:25.000 But now Joe Biden and American socialist radicals want to pack our Supreme Court with four new liberal justices.

00:13:31.000 Court packing isn't some policy idea to improve our courts.

00:13:34.000 It's a coup, a coup to take away your constitutional freedoms and turn America into a socialist country. 0.53

00:13:40.000 That's why First Liberty Institute, the largest legal organization in the nation dedicated to defending religious liberty in America, is doing something about it. 0.81

00:13:48.000 First Liberty recently launched supremecoup.com.

00:13:51.000 That's supremecoup.com to serve as a one-stop shop in the fight against court packing and help patriots like you learn the truth about what's happening in the courts.

00:14:00.000 But more importantly, there's a big take action button so you could do something to stop the Supreme Court coup.

00:14:06.000 So do me a favor, support Kelly Shackelford in this and get involved.

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00:14:28.000 The Brooklyn borough president, Eric Adams, he said, did he say this on Monday?

00:14:32.000 When did he say this?

00:14:33.000 I thought it was a while ago.

00:14:34.000 Yeah, it says on Monday.

00:14:35.000 I don't think it was.

00:14:36.000 But this is the sentiment.

00:14:38.000 So let me continue to prove this point to you.

00:14:41.000 We have this growing resentment as we look on our fellow countrymen.

00:14:46.000 We saw this when Hillary Clinton called flyover country deplorables.

00:14:52.000 Obama called them clingers to their God, their guns, and their religion.

00:14:56.000 And then it goes both ways, by the way.

00:14:58.000 If you go to Missouri and Kentucky and Iowa, they do not like anyone that lives in Los Angeles or New York.

00:15:05.000 When you go to Maine, I spend a lot of time in Maine.

00:15:09.000 I'm going there very soon.

00:15:10.000 It's very interesting.

00:15:11.000 When you drive into one of these rural towns in Maine, they don't just look at you.

00:15:14.000 They do the full 270-degree turn of the head.

00:15:18.000 The full, you know what I'm talking about?

00:15:20.000 The full scan.

00:15:21.000 Like, who are you and why are you in my town?

00:15:24.000 From the moment you get into one of these rural towns in Maine outside of the coastline, outside of Kenny Bunkport and Portland, all the kind of metropolitan ones, they know your name.

00:15:34.000 They know where you're from.

00:15:36.000 They know your background.

00:15:37.000 And they track you the moment you arrive and the moment you leave. 0.84

00:15:40.000 It's kind of like going into an Indian reservation.

00:15:42.000 They know everything about you.

00:15:44.000 And so the resentment goes both ways.

00:15:47.000 And maybe this is sustainable.

00:15:50.000 I don't think this is.

00:15:52.000 And again, I'm merely diagnosing this.

00:15:56.000 When I landed in Los Angeles recently, I did not feel like I was entering into a nation that I shared values with. 0.98

00:16:06.000 Every other billboard was glorifying transgender culture. 0.96

00:16:11.000 Every two minutes is another weed shop or people on the side of the streets either defecating or doing something gross. 1.00

00:16:19.000 And I think to myself, what attachment do I have here to Burbank or Van Nuys, California?

00:16:25.000 And again, I'm not actually even praising myself.

00:16:29.000 I'm not celebrating this.

00:16:30.000 I want to just reemphasize this point.

00:16:32.000 This is somewhat of a tragic realization.

00:16:35.000 So I want to play this tape here of this Brooklyn borough president, Eric Adams.

00:16:38.000 He won the primary, got the most votes, right?

00:16:41.000 But he's also in a runoff now.

00:16:44.000 Listen to this.

00:16:45.000 This is, do you think this is sustainable?

00:16:48.000 Play Cut 101.

00:16:49.000 You were here before stop ups.

00:16:51.000 You were here before others came and decided they wanted to be part of this city.

00:16:57.000 Folks are not only hijacking your apartments and displacing your living arrangements, they displaced your conversations and said the things that are important to you are no longer important.

00:17:08.000 And they decide what's important and what's not important. 0.98

00:17:12.000 Go back to Iowa.

00:17:13.000 You go back to Ohio.

00:17:15.000 New York City belongs to the people that was here and made New York City what it is.

00:17:20.000 And I know I'm a New Yorker.

00:17:22.000 I protected this city.

00:17:23.000 I have a right to put my voice in how the city should run.

00:17:28.000 Now, partially I see where he's see what he's saying.

00:17:30.000 I kind of respect this idea that don't invade our city and our culture and change it.

00:17:35.000 But that kind of resentment of get out, get out, get out, that rift is growing.

00:17:40.000 It is bubbling up with almost volcanic activity.

00:17:45.000 You see this also in how many people in the legislatures in Kentucky and Tennessee and Iowa and the Dakotas and Montana are basically saying, if you're coming from out of state, we don't want you here.

00:18:03.000 And so this is an unprecedented move.

00:18:06.000 We have not seen this sort of resentment since the racial resentment in the Jim Crow era.

00:18:11.000 And maybe part of this is anti-white resentment on behalf of this guy Adams because he was saying this on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

00:18:21.000 I don't know.

00:18:22.000 I do appreciate zeal for protecting a city from kind of being overrun.

00:18:27.000 And we are getting a flood of emails at freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:18:31.000 I want to read you one of these emails.

00:18:32.000 We're exploring this idea.

00:18:35.000 It's just an observation of kind of a fracturing, a separation, of things that are changing, of where people are divesting themselves from the attachments of their nation, their culture, and one another.

00:18:47.000 Now, one of these emails here, let me find this.

00:18:50.000 We've gotten so many at freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:18:53.000 Let me try to find the one that we just got here.

00:18:56.000 Ah, here it is.

00:18:57.000 It's from Steve.

00:18:58.000 Charlie, what we are seeing is not secession.

00:19:01.000 These individuals do not want to leave the United States of America.

00:19:04.000 They believe in our country and our federal constitution.

00:19:07.000 They simply want the change of local governance.

00:19:10.000 If a region or a city can annex areas into its governance, why can't not citizens of an area reverse annex themselves into a different governance by majority vote?

00:19:19.000 You're partially correct, Steve.

00:19:21.000 But they're leaving parts of the country that don't believe in the country and the federal constitution, is that they're trying to get into their own nation, but they're seceding or they're leaving or divesting or retreating or rejecting a state like California that has decided they do not want to be part of the federal republic or a state like Vermont.

00:19:43.000 Did you guys hear about the breaking news with Vermont?

00:19:45.000 I will be in Vermont this weekend, by the way.

00:19:48.000 I will be in Williston, Vermont at Ignite Church.

00:19:51.000 I'm sure we're going to get all sorts of fun protesters now that I've announced that publicly.

00:19:54.000 It's right near Burlington, Vermont.

00:19:57.000 I will be at Ignite Church.

00:19:59.000 Well, in Vermont, they have now passed a measure that will allow illegal aliens to vote in local elections.

00:20:10.000 Illegal aliens can now vote in local elections in Vermont.

00:20:14.000 This has been the case already for quite some time in California.

00:20:19.000 Now, how is that not undermining the compact or the contract that local officials have, I mean, that citizens have with their government?

00:20:31.000 I think Vermont has a Republican governor.

00:20:33.000 This is so strange.

00:20:34.000 Non-citizen legal residents that will now be able to vote in two cities in Vermont after the state narrowly overrode Governor Phil Scott's vetoes of two bills earlier this month.

00:20:44.000 So Canadians can now vote in Vermont elections.

00:20:47.000 The real question is, can Americans vote in Canadian elections?

00:20:52.000 It's a question.

00:20:54.000 Why are Canadians allowed to now vote in Vermont elections?

00:20:58.000 Oh, you think that only illegals are from south of the border?

00:21:02.000 So why do Germans get to now vote in Vermont local elections?

00:21:02.000 No.

00:21:10.000 Producer Andrews says you can't even travel to Canada right now. 0.99

00:21:13.000 Well, that's partially true. 0.99

00:21:16.000 So in Vermont, they have now passed this measure saying non-citizens can vote in local elections in two Vermont cities after, oh, the governor did veto it.

00:21:24.000 Okay.

00:21:24.000 The Republican governor did veto it and the legislature overturned it.

00:21:28.000 So my kind of perplexed approach is now validated. 0.93

00:21:33.000 I said, why would a Republican governor of Vermont allow illegals to vote? 0.82

00:21:38.000 But the legislature overrode it. 1.00

00:21:41.000 Governor Phil Scott vetoed it, and that's a good thing.

00:21:45.000 And so the trend we are seeing is not sustainable.

00:21:52.000 It's not sustainable in a variety of different ways.

00:21:54.000 I want to play cut 102 that shows that this Oregon man on Sean Hannity says that he started a grassroots movement.

00:22:01.000 His whole thing is to move Oregon's border.

00:22:04.000 He says, I'm staying put, but move Idaho to my home.

00:22:08.000 So I want you to play this out.

00:22:10.000 If 20 or 30 of these movements start to happen, how far is it going to be?

00:22:14.000 How big of a reach will it be?

00:22:15.000 He'll say, you know what?

00:22:17.000 I don't want to be governed by the FBI anymore.

00:22:19.000 I don't want to be governed by the IRS.

00:22:21.000 I don't want to be governed by a federal government and an administrative state that is able to investigate with total impunity my fellow countrymen or my own business or my own church or my own community.

00:22:32.000 This trend is the most evident trend of national separation that we have seen since the 1860s.

00:22:41.000 Play tape.

00:22:42.000 We are going county by county, 21 counties in rural Oregon, asking the citizens, do you want to start looking into changing the governance from Oregon to Idaho?

00:22:57.000 This is a values issue, just like you're talking about in Atlanta.

00:23:02.000 We're faith, family, freedom, liberty, down the blue line of protecting and enforcing laws.

00:23:10.000 And we're just watching it go down the tubes.

00:23:13.000 Now, people are asking us at freedom at charliekirk.com, why is this happening?

00:23:18.000 Well, let me play you a little bit of a tape to show you why this is happening.

00:23:21.000 Get Cut 97 ready.

00:23:23.000 When people feel as if they are living through a nonstop, relentless cultural blitzkrieg, you should be able to understand with some sympathy.

00:23:32.000 They say, I don't want to put up with this anymore.

00:23:34.000 I'm paying a 13% tax rate and a $57,000 a year tuition to New York private schools to have my daughter learn that there are no men and no women, no differences, have them learn that America is a terrible country, have them learn that they should hate themselves and hate their friends.

00:23:51.000 I'm done.

00:23:52.000 And if the other side wants to double down on this, if the other side believes that you can have a nation without history, language, and culture of commonality, there is only one way they can implement that.

00:24:07.000 There's only one solution to all of this for the left.

00:24:10.000 And I'm going to tell you what that is, but I want you to play this tape of Michael Eric Dyson.

00:24:15.000 This guy's a professor. 0.96

00:24:16.000 He's a very nasty person. 1.00

00:24:17.000 He is. 0.98

00:24:18.000 Every time he's on television, he talks very quickly with unnecessarily big words to make himself seem smart where he has no wisdom at all whatsoever.

00:24:27.000 And he's also a very angry person.

00:24:29.000 Play tape.

00:24:31.000 And speaking about, you know, the maggots, I'm sorry, the MAGA that is so corrosive in this, you know, political moment. 0.95

00:24:42.000 And we have stood by to see mediocre, mealy-mouthed, snowflake white men who are incapable of taking critique, who are willing to dole out infamous repudiations of the humanity of the other, and yet they call us snowflakes and they are the biggest flakes of snow to hit the earth. 0.96

00:25:03.000 They are incapable of criticism. 0.97

00:25:05.000 They are incapable of tolerating difference. 0.95

00:25:08.000 They're scared of, oh my God, critical race theory is going to kill your mother.

00:25:11.000 And they don't even know.

00:25:12.000 They're not critical.

00:25:13.000 They have no race and they don't understand theory.

00:25:17.000 And if you can't see that, that's on MSNBC.

00:25:19.000 The anchor and the fellow guests are chuckling and smirking and laughing.

00:25:24.000 And so if a white Christian who lives in rural Massachusetts in Worcester, Massachusetts hears this every single day, they're going to say, I'm done.

00:25:32.000 Like, have a nice life, Massachusetts.

00:25:34.000 I'm going to Florida.

00:25:35.000 And you're seeing that happen at great, an incredible speed.

00:25:41.000 And so what you just heard there from Michael Eric Dyson, that sort of cockiness, that sort of repudiation of his fellow countrymen, the lack of sympathy or understanding where they're coming from.

00:25:55.000 The obvious question is, how does the left think they're going to govern this country?

00:26:00.000 And the answer is very clear.

00:26:03.000 They think they're going to govern the country in a totalitarian nature.

00:26:07.000 You cannot govern a country that's a republic that's representative with checks and balances with that sort of attitude unless you decide to be an autocrat.

00:26:18.000 That's the only way this ends up working.

00:26:21.000 If you're willing to use force to then shut up the other side to restrict dissent to mock the other political party, then that's the only way that you can then be in power.

00:26:37.000 This is happening in a way that It's even fracturing family relationships.

00:26:44.000 And so the slow-motion secession that we're living through is not just states.

00:26:49.000 I'm sure a lot of you right now have lost some of your dearest and closest friends to this sort of cultural fault line.

00:27:00.000 I'm sure you've lost family members.

00:27:03.000 I want you to imagine how dark and craven you must be if your brother is a member of Congress with politics that you don't share, and then you decide to go cut an advertisement against him publicly, not doing this privately, not keeping your own opinions to yourself, instead deciding to cut a television advertisement on the public airwaves.

00:27:30.000 Do you think this ever would have happened in 1950s America, where your own siblings of a large family would have come out against you to try to destroy your livelihood?

00:27:42.000 This sort of state-based secession that we're seeing, it starts at the family dinner table.

00:27:47.000 It starts at your Easter, Thanksgiving celebrations, your July 4th celebrations, your Christmas celebrations.

00:27:53.000 And I'm sure a lot of you listening here have family members you're not talking to anymore.

00:27:58.000 You have family members where it has fractured you completely and you say, have a nice life.

00:28:02.000 I hope I never talk to you again.

00:28:03.000 I know for me that's happened.

00:28:05.000 There are family members that hate my guts to such a deep degree, they almost consider us to be dead.

00:28:11.000 That is not sustainable.

00:28:13.000 And that's not a good thing, by the way.

00:28:15.000 Play cut 104 of six of representatives Paul Gosar's siblings have endorsed his opponent.

00:28:23.000 We have gotten to a point where this is happening so dramatically that you have siblings that are actively involved in the career destruction of their own bloodline.

00:28:35.000 Play Cut 104.

00:28:36.000 My name is Tim Gosar.

00:28:37.000 David Gosar.

00:28:38.000 Grace Gosar.

00:28:39.000 Joan Gosar.

00:28:40.000 Jastin Gosar.

00:28:41.000 Jennifer Gosar.

00:28:42.000 Paul Gosar is my brother.

00:28:43.000 My brother.

00:28:44.000 And I endorse Dr. Brill.

00:28:46.000 Dr. Brill wholeheartedly endorsed Dr. David Brill for Congress.

00:28:51.000 I'm Dr. David Brill, and I approve this message. 0.93

00:28:54.000 So I don't know who that clown is, but he is not going to win anytime soon in rural Arizona. 0.82

00:29:00.000 But I want you to imagine for his siblings how dark of a place they must be in. 0.97

00:29:06.000 They're the secessionists.

00:29:09.000 And that's the point I want to make.

00:29:11.000 Is that you're seeing people that are moving and divesting.

00:29:15.000 The true secessionists are the people that want to give more power to the administrative state.

00:29:20.000 The true secessionists are the people like Merrick Garland who are declaring war on our cultural values.

00:29:27.000 And so you're seeing this happen as people are divesting and detaching themselves from the connective tissue of the nation.

00:29:37.000 This collision course that we're about to see very well could make our flag look different.

00:29:44.000 We may no longer have 50 stars on that flag.

00:29:46.000 It'll just be something completely unrecognizable.

00:29:51.000 A nation is defined by having a shared history.

00:29:54.000 We now question that, 1619 Project versus American history.

00:29:58.000 Culture, we're questioning that.

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00:31:25.000 A friend of mine in Chicago says, Charlie, your hour really resonates with me.

00:31:30.000 We're getting a lot of positive feedback on this idea of slow-motion secession.

00:31:34.000 This week is somewhat of a slow news week.

00:31:37.000 And what makes our program always different, by the way, is we try to go a level deeper and tell you the truth of what's happening and what we can do about it.

00:31:43.000 He says, Speaking for myself, one of my liberal friends obviously are more personal in their judgment of me.

00:31:49.000 The left tends to be more arrogant and self-righteous.

00:31:52.000 This was one of our first conversations respecting the free will of others.

00:31:55.000 And so then he goes back to say this: he says, His friend says, Hey, we can hang out as soon as you'll get vaccinated and you renounce Trump.

00:32:07.000 So he's not going to be hanging out anytime soon.

00:32:09.000 We got this question, and it's almost this idea of micro-secessions that are happening all over.

00:32:15.000 These micro-secessions of families splintering, of friendships fracturing, of small groups disappearing, of gatherings canceling.

00:32:28.000 That then just manifests itself on the national level.

00:32:33.000 We got this question: hey, Charlie, love your show and everything you stand for.

00:32:37.000 You're a huge inspiration to me.

00:32:41.000 What do you have to say about this idea of how much longer we have to put up with this?

00:32:46.000 Let me make sure I get this wording right.

00:32:48.000 I'm sorry.

00:32:50.000 Here's the one.

00:32:51.000 I'm sorry.

00:32:51.000 Charlie, love the show.

00:32:52.000 I see what you're doing and what you're saying about the slow secession.

00:32:55.000 It honestly reminds me of an abusive relationship.

00:32:57.000 It starts as an emotional relationship or abuse on American ideas and quickly moved to the physical abuse to the point of citizens being murdered until everyone identifies as American, not states and men.

00:33:08.000 This process will continue until people choose free thinking over brainwashing.

00:33:12.000 They will be deceived.

00:33:13.000 My question is: how long do you stay in this abusive relationship?

00:33:16.000 How does this marriage of 50 states fight to be united?

00:33:20.000 And you just said the operative word: things that matter must be fought for.

00:33:26.000 This is not going to save itself by just a bunch of spectators and commentary and hoping for return.

00:33:33.000 There's going to have to be some contention here.

00:33:36.000 And we are in the right.

00:33:38.000 Deep down, a majority of Americans want to remain American.

00:33:41.000 They don't want to have two Independence Days over the summer, which again plays into this entire narrative.

00:33:46.000 They don't want to have a different reading of history that misinterprets the moral aims and goals and purpose of our founders.

00:33:55.000 But it's going to take you taking terrain.

00:33:58.000 You will lose what you love if we don't play offense clearly and courageously.

00:34:03.000 Have you left a state for another and you wish you could still be in your home?

00:34:07.000 I've said this many times.

00:34:09.000 I wish I could live in Illinois.

00:34:11.000 It's not possible.

00:34:12.000 It's too expensive.

00:34:14.000 They don't want me.

00:34:15.000 They don't share my values.

00:34:17.000 At every turn, they have a marijuana dispensary.

00:34:19.000 It's not going to happen.

00:34:21.000 And so you just retreat to another place.

00:34:24.000 It isn't until we commit ourselves to what we believe and why we believe it, and we build coalitions and we organize, is it actually going to be possible to be remedied?

00:34:34.000 And then finally, our leaders, most specifically our governors and our state legislatures, they need to pass pieces of public policy that use political power in the aim and the goal of getting people to have unity, to try to mend these divisions.

00:34:51.000 That means curriculum that focuses on true history.

00:34:54.000 That means some form of national service potentially where people are actually focused on the beauty and the soul of who we are, not the melanin content.

00:35:05.000 Do you see all of a sudden how critical race theory and quote-unquote wokeism plays into this entire idea of slow-motion secession?

00:35:13.000 It all plays together.

00:35:16.000 It plays together because if we do not have at least something that the gay activist in San Francisco has in common with the Baptist preacher in Oklahoma, the country's done.

00:35:32.000 Then all of a sudden we're, it's just a matter of time. 0.51

00:35:34.000 But outside of a unified currency, which by the way, is also under massive indictment with the success of Bitcoin and crypto, what does the gay activists in San Francisco have in common with the Baptist preacher? 0.53

00:35:44.000 You know what it used to be? 0.60

00:35:45.000 It used to be in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s because our leaders were a little bit more responsible.

00:35:50.000 They used to at least want the same sort of nation.

00:35:54.000 They wanted a republic, a representative system, an independent judiciary, consent to the governed.

00:36:00.000 So I'm merely observing this.

00:36:02.000 And some people are applauding Eastern Oregon that wants to go into Idaho.

00:36:06.000 Generally, I think that's great.

00:36:07.000 Some people are applauding Western Virginia to want to become part of West Virginia.

00:36:11.000 Some people think it's great that Buckhead no longer wants to be part of Atlanta.

00:36:14.000 But those are precursors.

00:36:16.000 Those are canary in a coal mine.

00:36:17.000 Those are harbingers of things to come of what you have all seen happen with your family at Thanksgiving, a slow motion secession.

00:36:25.000 It is not a good thing.

00:36:25.000 It's not a healthy thing.

00:36:27.000 It must be reversed.

00:36:28.000 But in order to reverse something, you must diagnose it and identify it.

00:36:31.000 I want to live in a beautiful and complete union.

00:36:35.000 I don't want to all of a sudden see America chopped up into 30 other parts.

00:36:39.000 We must be the unionists, and they are the secessionists.

00:36:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:47.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:36:55.000 Thanks so much, everybody.

00:36:56.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 26, 2021

Understanding the Slow-Motion Secession Happening Right Now in America

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