The Charlie Kirk Show - Understanding the True Meaning of "Orwellian"

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, new developments in the Tucker Carlson spying saga.

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00:00:13.000 Orwell was a master and a prophet when it came to human psychology, and we explain why.

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00:02:35.000 The Constitution of the United States is the greatest political document ever written.

00:02:40.000 It is one that protects rights granted to you naturally by your creator.

00:02:48.000 The Fourth Amendment is talked about every so often, but mostly by libertarian types or people on the left worried about mass surveillance and the idea of the state and the government being able to spy on you.

00:03:06.000 On Monday evening, Tucker Carlson shocked the world when he came out with an allegation and revealed that his team and his show was approached by a whistleblower by the NSA, the National Security Agency, saying that they were being spied on in an attempt to take them off the air.

00:03:34.000 The whistleblower then repeated that information back to Tucker Carlson.

00:03:40.000 Producer Andrew did a very good job of walking through this.

00:03:42.000 I encourage you guys to check that out on our podcast as I took yesterday off as I was traveling.

00:03:48.000 But I want to play this back again, and then I want to play all the new information that has happened since.

00:03:53.000 And then I want to dive deeper into this phrase that we keep on saying, which is this is so Orwellian.

00:03:59.000 This is Orwellian.

00:04:00.000 This is Orwellian.

00:04:02.000 So, who was George Orwell?

00:04:05.000 Why is it important that we keep on?

00:04:07.000 Why is it important that we understand what he believed?

00:04:10.000 And what was 1984 exactly?

00:04:13.000 Well, 1984 is one of the most prophetic books when it comes to authoritarianism and tyranny in history.

00:04:23.000 And we're going to get to that.

00:04:24.000 But first, let's go to, again, let's just reframe this in case you missed this story.

00:04:29.000 Maybe you were backpacking in the woods of northern Alaska and you were one of the few people that did not hear this story.

00:04:35.000 That Tucker Carlson was probably and likely and almost assuredly being spied on by our own government.

00:04:44.000 Cut 41.

00:04:45.000 But it's not just political protesters the government is spying on.

00:04:48.000 Yesterday, we heard from a whistleblower within the U.S. government who reached out to warn us that the NSA, the National Security Agency, is monitoring our electronic communications and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.

00:05:02.000 The whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails.

00:05:14.000 There's no other possible source for that information, period.

00:05:18.000 So Tucker hits that perfectly for a couple different reasons.

00:05:22.000 Number one, solitude, the ability to be alone, is a necessary prerequisite for freedom.

00:05:32.000 The ability to be alone with your own thoughts and your own journals.

00:05:37.000 Are you free if you're always being watched and monitored?

00:05:42.000 You see, one of the things that the tech companies has attempted to do is they have attempted to desensitize the younger generation to this idea of constantly being surveilled.

00:05:56.000 They have cameras everywhere.

00:05:57.000 You have an Alexa in your living room.

00:05:59.000 I have nothing to hide, so I don't care if the tech companies are in my room.

00:06:06.000 You see, the government or people in power, they want to know what you are doing for the following reasons.

00:06:12.000 And it's really two major reasons: they want to know your moves and your thoughts before you do them and to preempt them.

00:06:23.000 So, for example, if Tucker Carlson was planning a bombshell story against the Biden administration, the Biden administration wants to be able to preempt that.

00:06:34.000 Maybe fire someone before that story comes out.

00:06:37.000 Maybe correct something before it happens.

00:06:41.000 And number two, which Tucker hits perfectly, is blackmail.

00:06:48.000 You see, when you are able to know everything about somebody, that is more powerful than money.

00:06:57.000 Ayn Rand actually hits this perfectly in the novel Atlas Shrugged, in a scene of Lillian Reardon, when she approaches James Taggart.

00:07:09.000 She says, I have something much more powerful than money.

00:07:13.000 I have blackmail.

00:07:16.000 It's a really important point.

00:07:18.000 And I'm happy to, I'm actually going to do a podcast later this summer summarizing Atlas Shrugged.

00:07:23.000 I'm rereading it, and I obviously disagree with Ayn's metaphysics, but that's a different topic for a different time.

00:07:31.000 Another part is of why they want to surveil is to try to find patterns of behavior for potential social control.

00:07:40.000 Private communication is fundamental to a free society.

00:07:45.000 Your movements, your ideas, and your actions, if they are being watched and controlled, they are not your own.

00:07:54.000 So here's a question for you.

00:07:56.000 Are your thoughts your own?

00:08:00.000 Power, in the sense of what our current government and corporate class enjoys, they always aim to preserve their own status and to devour their dissidents.

00:08:13.000 Therefore, knowing private data and the next move of people you disagree with is essential to the preservation of that power.

00:08:24.000 You see, many Republicans, including Lindsey Graham, who is great on Kavanaugh and a couple other things, they are culprit number one in giving power to the National Security Agency, giving power to the surveillance state.

00:08:41.000 And later this hour, we're going to dive into 1984 and how this connects because Orwell was more than just a novel writer.

00:08:48.000 Orwell was a group of five authors and thinkers that all simultaneously wrote about this idea of authoritarianism.

00:08:58.000 It was Kessler, Huxley, Orwell, Lewis, and Churchill.

00:09:03.000 Ah, I got the list right.

00:09:04.000 All five of them were from Europe or the United Kingdom.

00:09:08.000 We're going to get into that because we say things are Orwellian, but he also tells us what's about to happen next.

00:09:15.000 And it also describes why the Democrats have all of a sudden become so pro-CIA and so pro-National Security Agency.

00:09:23.000 And Orwell explains that in the last three pages of his book.

00:09:29.000 Jen Sucky, who is what I call her, Jen Saki, comes out and she all of a sudden says in cut 42, this is very important when Jen Saki comes out and they ask her, they say, so Jen Saki, what do you think about the National Security Agency spying on Tucker Carlson?

00:09:49.000 I want you to listen to this very carefully.

00:09:51.000 Because if you were to read her response, you would not get the same sort of analysis that we're about to explore together. 1.00

00:10:02.000 You see, Jen Sucky, she responds seamlessly. 1.00

00:10:08.000 She had meetings about this very early in the morning. 0.99

00:10:14.000 I want you to listen to how quickly she responds.

00:10:16.000 She was not taken off guard by this question.

00:10:18.000 She had this coached.

00:10:20.000 She had this rehearsed.

00:10:21.000 This was as if she was reading off the teleprompter.

00:10:24.000 She knew she was going to be asked this question.

00:10:26.000 In fact, the Biden team likely had a huddle that morning before her press gaggle, and they said, Saki, here is how you respond.

00:10:33.000 Cut 42.

00:10:35.000 Tucker Carlson said that the NSA is spying on him.

00:10:40.000 Is the administration aware of any or listening efforts on U.S. citizens by the NSA?

00:10:47.000 And is Tucker Carlson one of them?

00:10:50.000 Well, the NSA, as I think you're well aware, I'm sure everyone's aware.

00:10:54.000 Everyone on this plane is aware, I should say, is an entity that focuses on foreign threats and individuals who are attempting to do us harm on foreign soil.

00:11:04.000 So that is their purview.

00:11:08.000 But beyond that, I would point you to the intelligence community.

00:11:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:12.000 So I'm not going to deny that we're spying on Tucker Carlson, but I'm going to give you kind of a Wikipedia entry that here's what the NSA does.

00:11:18.000 And if you have a question to them, go ask them.

00:11:22.000 And so what's the significance of this?

00:11:24.000 Well, the significance is that they're likely spying on Tucker Carlson, which means they're spying on the most successful cable news channel that is questioning not just Joe Biden, but the entire ruling class.

00:11:36.000 What does that mean for the future of our republic?

00:11:39.000 It means they're willing to do whatever is necessary.

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00:12:48.000 Solitude is a necessary prerequisite to freedom.

00:12:52.000 Your ability to have your own thoughts, to be able to explore your own ideas.

00:13:00.000 As soon as your privacy disappears, you are nothing more than a pseudo-slave to the state.

00:13:08.000 Tucker Carlson went through this in great detail as he continues to go through the story about how he is being spied on by our own government.

00:13:17.000 And in fact, the NSA responded, and I'm going to go into the response by the NSA in great detail because it is a stunning press release.

00:13:28.000 It is a paragraph of lies, and it takes somewhat of a trained eye to see it because they are very careful in the words that they use.

00:13:37.000 Let's play Cut 53, where Tucker Carlson recapped how the NSA whistleblower that came forward and confirmed the information that no one should have had outside of him or his staff play Cut 53.

00:13:50.000 Last night we told you about the Biden administration's efforts to monitor and intimidate this show.

00:13:55.000 On Sunday, we heard from a whistleblower within the U.S. government, someone with direct knowledge, who warned us that the NSA was reading our electronic communications, our emails and texts, and was planning to leak them selectively in an effort to hurt us.

00:14:09.000 This person had details from my emails that no one outside the recipient could have known.

00:14:14.000 So it was not a delusion.

00:14:15.000 It was entirely real.

00:14:17.000 In fact, it was confirmed.

00:14:19.000 Only information that were within his emails.

00:14:22.000 And the whistleblower came forward, and he's probably going to pay a great price for this.

00:14:27.000 Tucker Carlson continues to explain how, after his show, other news organizations just blew off the story as if this is okay and normal.

00:14:36.000 Play Cut 54.

00:14:38.000 After the show last night, after we announced this, other news organizations acted as if it's totally normal for heavily politicized intel agencies to spy on and threaten journalists they disagree with.

00:14:48.000 It's no big deal.

00:14:49.000 Stop whining.

00:14:50.000 But it is a big deal.

00:14:52.000 It is completely wrong, not to mention illegally.

00:14:55.000 And this is hardly the first time the so-called intelligence community has done something like this.

00:14:59.000 They've done an awful lot of it.

00:15:01.000 Look it up.

00:15:02.000 If we let them continue to do it, it's the end of democracy.

00:15:04.000 Democracy can't function with semi-independent, highly politicized intel agencies.

00:15:10.000 It's really dangerous.

00:15:12.000 I will never lie to you.

00:15:13.000 I will always tell you the truth.

00:15:15.000 We are at the razor's edge of totalitarianism.

00:15:18.000 That's where we are.

00:15:19.000 And most people seem perfectly fine with it.

00:15:22.000 They want to be taken care of.

00:15:24.000 They don't mind being controlled as long as they get to enjoy pleasure along the way.

00:15:33.000 Remember when Chuck Schumer threatened Donald Trump?

00:15:36.000 And he said, Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you, basically saying, They can blackmail you.

00:15:45.000 They know everything about you.

00:15:47.000 If you dare challenge the party or Big Brother, we will destroy your life. 1.00

00:15:53.000 This was when Chuck Schumer in early January 2017 was trying to warn Donald Trump, you're really dumb to do this. 1.00

00:16:00.000 Don't declare war on the intel agencies because they'll destroy you. 0.99

00:16:05.000 Play Cut 43.

00:16:06.000 Shots, this antagonism is taunting to the intelligence community.

00:16:10.000 You take on the intelligence community.

00:16:12.000 They have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you. 0.99

00:16:15.000 So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this. 1.00

00:16:21.000 Very dumb to do this. 0.99

00:16:23.000 That was a passive-aggressive statement of saying, we control the lines of communication in D.C. 1.00

00:16:29.000 We know everything about you.

00:16:31.000 We have piles of blackmail about you, Donald Trump, and we will leak it selectively so that we can control you.

00:16:39.000 And if you're listening to this right now, maybe in North Dakota, Riverside, California, or maybe in Charlottesville, Virginia, they have files on all of you too.

00:16:48.000 They spy on every single one of your actions and they create files that if you might want to run for Congress, they could use that against you too.

00:16:55.000 If all of a sudden you become too successful a business person and you want to donate to Republicans, they might leak that to a newspaper.

00:17:01.000 You see what they have done through the National Security Agency and the monolith of the surveillance state is they have created the largest opposition research file in world history. 0.98

00:17:11.000 The National Security Agency thinks you're dumb, but they're not dumb. 0.99

00:17:17.000 They are clever. 1.00

00:17:18.000 They have no morality, but they are clever.

00:17:21.000 They issued this response right as Tucker Carlson went on air, literally at 8 p.m.

00:17:27.000 The NSA, as soon as Tucker Carlson's show starts, they tweeted a statement in response to Tucker Carlson saying that he was being spied on. 0.96

00:17:36.000 Now, they think you are stupid because they think people skim and they say, oh, they denied it and therefore, no, no, they did not deny it, actually. 0.91

00:17:45.000 I want to go word by word and first read the entire thing, and then we are going to take this apart because there are little, let's just say, code words within this. 0.99

00:17:56.000 Let me read it first with no edification, just exactly as they posted it in response to Tucker Carlson, literally at 8 p.m., the moment where you hear the drum beat and it says, hello and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight.

00:18:09.000 As soon as he said that, they released their segment, their statement.

00:18:12.000 Coordinated, of course.

00:18:14.000 On June 28th, 2021, Tucker Carlson alleged that the National Security Agency has been, quote, monitoring our electronic communications and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.

00:18:27.000 This allegation is untrue.

00:18:29.000 Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the agency, and the NSA has never had any plans to try and take his program off the air.

00:18:36.000 The NSA has a foreign intelligence mission.

00:18:38.000 We target foreign powers that generate insights on foreign activities that could harm the United States.

00:18:42.000 With limited exceptions, like an emergency, the NSA may not target a U.S. citizen without a court order that explicitly authorizes the targeting.

00:18:51.000 Sounds basic enough, right?

00:18:53.000 So if you hear this, you're saying, okay, they denied it.

00:18:57.000 But what if you really dissect what they say there?

00:19:00.000 What if you take a breath and a pause and you come at this with a little bit of cynicism and you say, what are they really saying here?

00:19:10.000 Let's go word by word.

00:19:11.000 And if the NSA drops it right as Tucker Carlson's show begins, what if they're trying to cover their own tail in case Rand Paul ever gets subpoena power over them?

00:19:23.000 Now, even if they were flat out denying it, I think they're lying.

00:19:26.000 In Cut 66, remember when Clapper, who's a real treacherous guy, very clever, deceitful, arrogant, and is completely unrestrained by any sort of moral decency.

00:19:37.000 In Cut 66, Jim Clapper went in front of Congress and he flat out lied about mass surveillance.

00:19:43.000 Now, James Clapper never went to jail for lying under oath in front of Congress.

00:19:48.000 So even if they were flat out denying, which they're not denying it, I wouldn't believe them.

00:19:52.000 PlayCut 66.

00:19:53.000 Last summer, the NSA director was at a conference, and he was asked a question about the NSA surveillance of Americans.

00:20:01.000 He replied, and I quote here, the story that we have millions or hundreds of millions of dossiers on people is completely false.

00:20:11.000 The reason I'm asking the question is having served on the committee now for a dozen years, I don't really know what a dossier is in this context.

00:20:21.000 So what I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question, does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?

00:20:35.000 No, sir.

00:20:37.000 It does not.

00:20:40.000 Not wittingly.

00:20:42.000 There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly.

00:20:49.000 All right.

00:20:50.000 This is a total lie and was exposed as a lie by Glenn Greenwald and the Edward Snowden revelation.

00:20:57.000 So even if the NSA was denying spying on Tucker Carlson, I wouldn't believe them.

00:21:03.000 Now, producer Andrew said something in our group chat, and I generally agree with what he's saying, but I think he understands my perspective.

00:21:12.000 He says the NSA has nothing better to do than spy on Tucker Carlson.

00:21:17.000 Oh, no, for their aims and for their goals, Tucker Carlson is the biggest threat to them.

00:21:22.000 Tucker Carlson has the most powerful cable news show in history.

00:21:26.000 Tucker Carlson is communicating to 10 to 15 million people.

00:21:30.000 If you count recuts, repeats, retweets, YouTube, he is controlling the entire zeitgeist to the center right of the country.

00:21:38.000 If Tucker Carlson does a segment on something, you'd better believe people are texting about it.

00:21:42.000 They're talking about it.

00:21:44.000 And so removing Tucker Carlson from the American political discourse is priority number one for the people of the Clapper, Comey, and Brennan types.

00:21:54.000 So let's go back through this statement piece by piece, because to an untrained eye, because the NSA thinks you're dumb, they think you skim read, this seems as if there's nothing there.

00:22:04.000 Oh, but there's something there.

00:22:08.000 On July, let's read it again.

00:22:10.000 On June 28th, 2021, Tucker Carlson alleged that the National Security Agency, this is all true.

00:22:15.000 By the way, my friend Harmeet Dillon did a great job of dissecting this as well. 0.75

00:22:18.000 So I want to give her credit for this.

00:22:20.000 Alleged that the National Security Agency had been monitoring electronic communications. 0.80

00:22:26.000 This part is true.

00:22:27.000 And is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.

00:22:33.000 Hold on a second.

00:22:36.000 They just conflated two different allegations into one.

00:22:40.000 Tucker heard from the whistleblower that they were monitoring and then planning to leak them and then want to take the show off the air.

00:22:50.000 Those are three different allegations.

00:22:53.000 And then the NSA says in a separate sentence, this allegation is untrue.

00:22:59.000 Which allegation is untrue, NSA?

00:23:02.000 The fact that you're monitoring his communications, that you're planning to leak them, or that you want to take a show off the air.

00:23:10.000 Which one of them is untrue?

00:23:13.000 They don't say.

00:23:14.000 They just say, this one is untrue.

00:23:16.000 You see, some crafty, highly paid lawyer at the NSA is playing word games with you.

00:23:24.000 The statement continues by saying, Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target.

00:23:30.000 That's a very strange and oddly specific.

00:23:33.000 Was Tucker Carlson incidentally a target?

00:23:37.000 Was Tucker Carlson caught up in a dragnet?

00:23:39.000 Or is Tucker Carlson not a target, but was still being spied on?

00:23:44.000 You see, what if intelligence target is a very specific categorization in the NSA, and they say, well, he wasn't part of intelligence target, but he was part of a broader effort to try to spy on all conservatives.

00:23:57.000 Maybe he wasn't a target, but maybe everyone at Fox News was a target, or maybe everyone on the center right was a target.

00:24:02.000 Do you see all of a sudden how when you start to pick apart this statement, the thread unfolds?

00:24:09.000 Continues by saying, of the agency and the NSA has never had any plans to try to take off his program off the air.

00:24:18.000 Well, that's strange because that's only part of the allegation, which is trying to take the program off the air.

00:24:27.000 Continues by saying that the NSA has a foreign intelligence mission.

00:24:31.000 We target foreign powers to generate insights into foreign activities.

00:24:36.000 But the NSA also captures data on U.S. citizens.

00:24:40.000 So if Tucker happened to be talking to an Irish citizen, of which when I filmed Tucker Carlson today, he had a young lady who was an Irish feminist who was on faming woke culture.

00:24:54.000 That very well could get Tucker Carlson's communications monitored. 0.82

00:24:58.000 That could harm the United States, is what they say.

00:25:02.000 With the limited exceptions, why don't you list those exceptions?

00:25:06.000 Like an emergency.

00:25:08.000 You mean like the Chinese coronavirus?

00:25:10.000 So the NSA says, well, only in an emergency.

00:25:13.000 Well, is the January 6th riot an emergency?

00:25:17.000 You see, Tucker Carlson was getting onto something about how our intelligence community very well might have been involved in January 6th.

00:25:24.000 Would that be an emergency?

00:25:26.000 The NSA may not target really U.S. citizens.

00:25:31.000 But if they happen to get your data, they can keep it and then they can mine it without a court order that explicitly authorizes the targeting.

00:25:42.000 You see, this statement was intentionally written for the simple-minded person.

00:25:51.000 What about a climate emergency?

00:25:54.000 If Tucker Carlson was texting with Nigel Farage about how climate change is not an existential threat, that very well might validate the NSA spying on Tucker Carlson.

00:26:06.000 Everything's always an emergency to the left.

00:26:08.000 So therefore, unless it was an how does the NSA define an emergency?

00:26:12.000 I guess under certain court orders, we're still living under an emergency like COVID, right?

00:26:17.000 Emergency measures.

00:26:19.000 We're able to say you have to wear a cloth on a federal regulated airline over your mouth.

00:26:25.000 So why can't we monitor Tucker Carlson's text?

00:26:27.000 It's an emergency, isn't it?

00:26:30.000 You see, the NSA thinks that you'll read that statement, and then all of a sudden you'll say, ah, of course, Tucker Carlson is lying.

00:26:38.000 Or maybe when Tucker Carlson all of a sudden came out with vaccine skepticism, could that warrant spying?

00:26:43.000 Because that's an emergency because mandatory vaccinations is a collective good. 0.57

00:26:49.000 Sit down, shut up, take the vaccine. 0.94

00:26:51.000 And if you don't, we're going to spy on you. 0.99

00:26:54.000 That could be an international emergency.

00:26:56.000 But what happens if all of a sudden German or UK or French intelligence agencies are spying on Tucker and they give that data to the NSA?

00:27:08.000 What if a different agency like the Australian intelligence agency does the spying for the NSA and then sends that data to the NSA and the NSA sends it to the FBI?

00:27:18.000 What's to prevent that from happening?

00:27:20.000 They don't deny that.

00:27:21.000 In fact, they don't deny anything that Tucker Carlson alleges.

00:27:27.000 They say this allegation is untrue.

00:27:29.000 Which allegation?

00:27:30.000 The NSA is in the business of taking cable shows off the air.

00:27:33.000 Yeah, that's probably untrue because that motive is impossible to prove.

00:27:39.000 I want to re-emphasize this.

00:27:40.000 This is all illegal.

00:27:42.000 We need a new church committee.

00:27:45.000 Senator Church type reset is needed right now.

00:27:49.000 And the way that they worded this was to try to avoid a congressional subpoena or being caught up in a cross-examination by members of Congress.

00:28:03.000 Where are the Republicans? 0.99

00:28:06.000 Well, Lindsey Graham and the type, they actually love Big Brother.

00:28:10.000 They have always loved the surveillance state.

00:28:13.000 But what's been remarkable to see, what's been so telling, is how the media, who used to always be at war with the intelligence agencies, are now carrying the water of the CIA.

00:28:30.000 They are now carrying, they are now defending the very same intelligence agencies they used to try and expose.

00:28:39.000 And Orwell predicted this.

00:28:42.000 You see, the Democrats have now become the party of Big Brother.

00:28:46.000 They used to challenge over-the-top spying.

00:28:48.000 They used to not like anti-constitutional measures done by our government, but now they enjoy it.

00:28:54.000 I'm going to show you how Orwell predicted this and why he did.

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00:31:19.000 George R. Well was an incredible writer and he understood that when technology reaches a certain point, tyrants will not be able to help themselves.

00:31:30.000 But use that technology to try and monitor and surveil and control a citizenry.

00:31:38.000 See, 1984 is not a book about politics.

00:31:41.000 1984 is a book about human psychology.

00:31:44.000 I reread it just a couple weeks ago, and I encourage everyone to do the same.

00:31:49.000 Orwell knew that power, unrestrained by morality, will be abused.

00:31:57.000 And not just abused, but you will become micromanaged by that power.

00:32:04.000 And incredibly, the last page of 1984, so if you've never read it and you're planning to, then you guys can just mute me for the time being, or you can just fast forward.

00:32:17.000 The last page of 1984 shows the arc that we are currently living through.

00:32:24.000 You see, Orwell knew that if you are surveilled enough, if you are watched enough, eventually, that fear will turn into obedience.

00:32:39.000 That the fear of Big Brother, which the entire book in 1984 starts with Winston, who lives in Airstrip 1, the new name of London, who works in the Ministry of Truth, starts with him literally changing history.

00:32:57.000 It's somewhat of a love story where he finds solitude, but Big Brother saw the entire thing happen, and he then goes into, I'm way oversimplifying the entire book.

00:33:06.000 It's a beautiful piece of literature.

00:33:11.000 Gets into prison, and he is forced eventually through solitary confinement and through torture to even renounce his romantic relationship.

00:33:23.000 And Big Brother, the entire movie, the entire movie and the entire book, I should say, has this constant theme of being the villain.

00:33:32.000 Then Winston sits in a bar at the end of the book, and it says, quote, Winston, sitting in a blissful dream, paid no attention as his glass was filled up.

00:33:42.000 He was not running or cheering any longer.

00:33:44.000 He was back in the ministry of love with everything forgiven, his soul white as snow.

00:33:49.000 He was in the public dock, confessing everything, implicating everybody.

00:33:53.000 He was walking down the white tiled corridor with the feeling of walking in sunlight and an armed guard at his back.

00:34:00.000 The long hoped for a bullet was entering his brain in the final paragraph of the book.

00:34:07.000 He gazed up at that enormous face, Big Brother.

00:34:12.000 40 years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was actually hidden beneath the dark mustache.

00:34:19.000 Oh, cruel, needless misunderstanding.

00:34:22.000 Oh, stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast.

00:34:26.000 Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose.

00:34:31.000 But it was all right.

00:34:33.000 Everything was all right.

00:34:34.000 The struggle was finished.

00:34:36.000 He had won the victory over himself.

00:34:39.000 He loved Big Brother.

00:34:42.000 What is Orwell saying here?

00:34:44.000 That is the Democrats.

00:34:46.000 The Democrats have realized that challenging the surveillance state and the intelligence community is futile.

00:34:52.000 That if they amass enough power, they will break your will that will end in the worship of that power.

00:35:00.000 The entire book, Winston feared Big Brother.

00:35:03.000 The entire book, he tried to escape Big Brother.

00:35:06.000 The entire book, he tried to challenge Big Brother.

00:35:08.000 The entire book, he tried to get the proletariat to rise up against Big Brother and the party and the telescreens and the entire Leviathan of surveillance.

00:35:16.000 But eventually his will was broken and he worshipped that very tyranny the whole book described as the villain.

00:35:26.000 And that is what's happened with the media.

00:35:28.000 The media, instead of going to Tucker Carlson's defense, instead of coming to Tucker Carlson's aid, they're saying, how dare you question the National Security Agency, the unfounded accusation that would dare question that we're spying on you?

00:35:43.000 Tucker Carlson, submit.

00:35:45.000 Your life will be better.

00:35:46.000 The NSA is there for your benefit.

00:35:48.000 The government is there for your good.

00:35:50.000 The spying will make you happy.

00:35:52.000 You could be free too, Tucker Carlson, to stop asking questions.

00:35:56.000 The media that used to go and submit FOIA requests of the NSA and the CIA, they now stand staring at that poster of the NSA and they say, oh, how I love you.

00:36:06.000 And Tucker Carlson, we must destroy.

00:36:08.000 Own Orwell knew this.

00:36:10.000 Orwell knew that if the power increased to such a dramatic extent, what would once be rebellion will then become obedience.

00:36:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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00:36:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 01, 2021

Understanding the True Meaning of "Orwellian"

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