00:00:00.000Hey, everybody, new developments in the Tucker Carlson spying saga.
00:00:04.000We dive deep into the baseless and nonsensical statement released by the National Security Agency, and we talk about what Orwell was right about.
00:00:13.000Orwell was a master and a prophet when it came to human psychology, and we explain why.
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00:02:35.000The Constitution of the United States is the greatest political document ever written.
00:02:40.000It is one that protects rights granted to you naturally by your creator.
00:02:48.000The Fourth Amendment is talked about every so often, but mostly by libertarian types or people on the left worried about mass surveillance and the idea of the state and the government being able to spy on you.
00:03:06.000On Monday evening, Tucker Carlson shocked the world when he came out with an allegation and revealed that his team and his show was approached by a whistleblower by the NSA, the National Security Agency, saying that they were being spied on in an attempt to take them off the air.
00:03:34.000The whistleblower then repeated that information back to Tucker Carlson.
00:03:40.000Producer Andrew did a very good job of walking through this.
00:03:42.000I encourage you guys to check that out on our podcast as I took yesterday off as I was traveling.
00:03:48.000But I want to play this back again, and then I want to play all the new information that has happened since.
00:03:53.000And then I want to dive deeper into this phrase that we keep on saying, which is this is so Orwellian.
00:04:45.000But it's not just political protesters the government is spying on.
00:04:48.000Yesterday, we heard from a whistleblower within the U.S. government who reached out to warn us that the NSA, the National Security Agency, is monitoring our electronic communications and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.
00:05:02.000The whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails.
00:05:14.000There's no other possible source for that information, period.
00:05:18.000So Tucker hits that perfectly for a couple different reasons.
00:05:22.000Number one, solitude, the ability to be alone, is a necessary prerequisite for freedom.
00:05:32.000The ability to be alone with your own thoughts and your own journals.
00:05:37.000Are you free if you're always being watched and monitored?
00:05:42.000You see, one of the things that the tech companies has attempted to do is they have attempted to desensitize the younger generation to this idea of constantly being surveilled.
00:05:57.000You have an Alexa in your living room.
00:05:59.000I have nothing to hide, so I don't care if the tech companies are in my room.
00:06:06.000You see, the government or people in power, they want to know what you are doing for the following reasons.
00:06:12.000And it's really two major reasons: they want to know your moves and your thoughts before you do them and to preempt them.
00:06:23.000So, for example, if Tucker Carlson was planning a bombshell story against the Biden administration, the Biden administration wants to be able to preempt that.
00:06:34.000Maybe fire someone before that story comes out.
00:06:37.000Maybe correct something before it happens.
00:06:41.000And number two, which Tucker hits perfectly, is blackmail.
00:06:48.000You see, when you are able to know everything about somebody, that is more powerful than money.
00:06:57.000Ayn Rand actually hits this perfectly in the novel Atlas Shrugged, in a scene of Lillian Reardon, when she approaches James Taggart.
00:07:09.000She says, I have something much more powerful than money.
00:08:00.000Power, in the sense of what our current government and corporate class enjoys, they always aim to preserve their own status and to devour their dissidents.
00:08:13.000Therefore, knowing private data and the next move of people you disagree with is essential to the preservation of that power.
00:08:24.000You see, many Republicans, including Lindsey Graham, who is great on Kavanaugh and a couple other things, they are culprit number one in giving power to the National Security Agency, giving power to the surveillance state.
00:08:41.000And later this hour, we're going to dive into 1984 and how this connects because Orwell was more than just a novel writer.
00:08:48.000Orwell was a group of five authors and thinkers that all simultaneously wrote about this idea of authoritarianism.
00:08:58.000It was Kessler, Huxley, Orwell, Lewis, and Churchill.
00:09:04.000All five of them were from Europe or the United Kingdom.
00:09:08.000We're going to get into that because we say things are Orwellian, but he also tells us what's about to happen next.
00:09:15.000And it also describes why the Democrats have all of a sudden become so pro-CIA and so pro-National Security Agency.
00:09:23.000And Orwell explains that in the last three pages of his book.
00:09:29.000Jen Sucky, who is what I call her, Jen Saki, comes out and she all of a sudden says in cut 42, this is very important when Jen Saki comes out and they ask her, they say, so Jen Saki, what do you think about the National Security Agency spying on Tucker Carlson?
00:09:49.000I want you to listen to this very carefully.
00:09:51.000Because if you were to read her response, you would not get the same sort of analysis that we're about to explore together.
00:10:02.000You see, Jen Sucky, she responds seamlessly.
00:10:08.000She had meetings about this very early in the morning.
00:10:14.000I want you to listen to how quickly she responds.
00:10:16.000She was not taken off guard by this question.
00:10:50.000Well, the NSA, as I think you're well aware, I'm sure everyone's aware.
00:10:54.000Everyone on this plane is aware, I should say, is an entity that focuses on foreign threats and individuals who are attempting to do us harm on foreign soil.
00:11:12.000So I'm not going to deny that we're spying on Tucker Carlson, but I'm going to give you kind of a Wikipedia entry that here's what the NSA does.
00:11:18.000And if you have a question to them, go ask them.
00:11:22.000And so what's the significance of this?
00:11:24.000Well, the significance is that they're likely spying on Tucker Carlson, which means they're spying on the most successful cable news channel that is questioning not just Joe Biden, but the entire ruling class.
00:11:36.000What does that mean for the future of our republic?
00:11:39.000It means they're willing to do whatever is necessary.
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00:12:48.000Solitude is a necessary prerequisite to freedom.
00:12:52.000Your ability to have your own thoughts, to be able to explore your own ideas.
00:13:00.000As soon as your privacy disappears, you are nothing more than a pseudo-slave to the state.
00:13:08.000Tucker Carlson went through this in great detail as he continues to go through the story about how he is being spied on by our own government.
00:13:17.000And in fact, the NSA responded, and I'm going to go into the response by the NSA in great detail because it is a stunning press release.
00:13:28.000It is a paragraph of lies, and it takes somewhat of a trained eye to see it because they are very careful in the words that they use.
00:13:37.000Let's play Cut 53, where Tucker Carlson recapped how the NSA whistleblower that came forward and confirmed the information that no one should have had outside of him or his staff play Cut 53.
00:13:50.000Last night we told you about the Biden administration's efforts to monitor and intimidate this show.
00:13:55.000On Sunday, we heard from a whistleblower within the U.S. government, someone with direct knowledge, who warned us that the NSA was reading our electronic communications, our emails and texts, and was planning to leak them selectively in an effort to hurt us.
00:14:09.000This person had details from my emails that no one outside the recipient could have known.
00:14:38.000After the show last night, after we announced this, other news organizations acted as if it's totally normal for heavily politicized intel agencies to spy on and threaten journalists they disagree with.
00:15:24.000They don't mind being controlled as long as they get to enjoy pleasure along the way.
00:15:33.000Remember when Chuck Schumer threatened Donald Trump?
00:15:36.000And he said, Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you, basically saying, They can blackmail you.
00:16:31.000We have piles of blackmail about you, Donald Trump, and we will leak it selectively so that we can control you.
00:16:39.000And if you're listening to this right now, maybe in North Dakota, Riverside, California, or maybe in Charlottesville, Virginia, they have files on all of you too.
00:16:48.000They spy on every single one of your actions and they create files that if you might want to run for Congress, they could use that against you too.
00:16:55.000If all of a sudden you become too successful a business person and you want to donate to Republicans, they might leak that to a newspaper.
00:17:01.000You see what they have done through the National Security Agency and the monolith of the surveillance state is they have created the largest opposition research file in world history.
00:17:11.000The National Security Agency thinks you're dumb, but they're not dumb.
00:17:18.000They have no morality, but they are clever.
00:17:21.000They issued this response right as Tucker Carlson went on air, literally at 8 p.m.
00:17:27.000The NSA, as soon as Tucker Carlson's show starts, they tweeted a statement in response to Tucker Carlson saying that he was being spied on.
00:17:36.000Now, they think you are stupid because they think people skim and they say, oh, they denied it and therefore, no, no, they did not deny it, actually.
00:17:45.000I want to go word by word and first read the entire thing, and then we are going to take this apart because there are little, let's just say, code words within this.
00:17:56.000Let me read it first with no edification, just exactly as they posted it in response to Tucker Carlson, literally at 8 p.m., the moment where you hear the drum beat and it says, hello and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight.
00:18:09.000As soon as he said that, they released their segment, their statement.
00:18:14.000On June 28th, 2021, Tucker Carlson alleged that the National Security Agency has been, quote, monitoring our electronic communications and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.
00:18:29.000Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the agency, and the NSA has never had any plans to try and take his program off the air.
00:18:36.000The NSA has a foreign intelligence mission.
00:18:38.000We target foreign powers that generate insights on foreign activities that could harm the United States.
00:18:42.000With limited exceptions, like an emergency, the NSA may not target a U.S. citizen without a court order that explicitly authorizes the targeting.
00:19:11.000And if the NSA drops it right as Tucker Carlson's show begins, what if they're trying to cover their own tail in case Rand Paul ever gets subpoena power over them?
00:19:23.000Now, even if they were flat out denying it, I think they're lying.
00:19:26.000In Cut 66, remember when Clapper, who's a real treacherous guy, very clever, deceitful, arrogant, and is completely unrestrained by any sort of moral decency.
00:19:37.000In Cut 66, Jim Clapper went in front of Congress and he flat out lied about mass surveillance.
00:19:43.000Now, James Clapper never went to jail for lying under oath in front of Congress.
00:19:48.000So even if they were flat out denying, which they're not denying it, I wouldn't believe them.
00:19:53.000Last summer, the NSA director was at a conference, and he was asked a question about the NSA surveillance of Americans.
00:20:01.000He replied, and I quote here, the story that we have millions or hundreds of millions of dossiers on people is completely false.
00:20:11.000The reason I'm asking the question is having served on the committee now for a dozen years, I don't really know what a dossier is in this context.
00:20:21.000So what I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question, does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?
00:20:50.000This is a total lie and was exposed as a lie by Glenn Greenwald and the Edward Snowden revelation.
00:20:57.000So even if the NSA was denying spying on Tucker Carlson, I wouldn't believe them.
00:21:03.000Now, producer Andrew said something in our group chat, and I generally agree with what he's saying, but I think he understands my perspective.
00:21:12.000He says the NSA has nothing better to do than spy on Tucker Carlson.
00:21:17.000Oh, no, for their aims and for their goals, Tucker Carlson is the biggest threat to them.
00:21:22.000Tucker Carlson has the most powerful cable news show in history.
00:21:26.000Tucker Carlson is communicating to 10 to 15 million people.
00:21:30.000If you count recuts, repeats, retweets, YouTube, he is controlling the entire zeitgeist to the center right of the country.
00:21:38.000If Tucker Carlson does a segment on something, you'd better believe people are texting about it.
00:21:44.000And so removing Tucker Carlson from the American political discourse is priority number one for the people of the Clapper, Comey, and Brennan types.
00:21:54.000So let's go back through this statement piece by piece, because to an untrained eye, because the NSA thinks you're dumb, they think you skim read, this seems as if there's nothing there.
00:23:16.000You see, some crafty, highly paid lawyer at the NSA is playing word games with you.
00:23:24.000The statement continues by saying, Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target.
00:23:30.000That's a very strange and oddly specific.
00:23:33.000Was Tucker Carlson incidentally a target?
00:23:37.000Was Tucker Carlson caught up in a dragnet?
00:23:39.000Or is Tucker Carlson not a target, but was still being spied on?
00:23:44.000You see, what if intelligence target is a very specific categorization in the NSA, and they say, well, he wasn't part of intelligence target, but he was part of a broader effort to try to spy on all conservatives.
00:23:57.000Maybe he wasn't a target, but maybe everyone at Fox News was a target, or maybe everyone on the center right was a target.
00:24:02.000Do you see all of a sudden how when you start to pick apart this statement, the thread unfolds?
00:24:09.000Continues by saying, of the agency and the NSA has never had any plans to try to take off his program off the air.
00:24:18.000Well, that's strange because that's only part of the allegation, which is trying to take the program off the air.
00:24:27.000Continues by saying that the NSA has a foreign intelligence mission.
00:24:31.000We target foreign powers to generate insights into foreign activities.
00:24:36.000But the NSA also captures data on U.S. citizens.
00:24:40.000So if Tucker happened to be talking to an Irish citizen, of which when I filmed Tucker Carlson today, he had a young lady who was an Irish feminist who was on faming woke culture.
00:24:54.000That very well could get Tucker Carlson's communications monitored.
00:24:58.000That could harm the United States, is what they say.
00:25:02.000With the limited exceptions, why don't you list those exceptions?
00:25:26.000The NSA may not target really U.S. citizens.
00:25:31.000But if they happen to get your data, they can keep it and then they can mine it without a court order that explicitly authorizes the targeting.
00:25:42.000You see, this statement was intentionally written for the simple-minded person.
00:25:54.000If Tucker Carlson was texting with Nigel Farage about how climate change is not an existential threat, that very well might validate the NSA spying on Tucker Carlson.
00:26:06.000Everything's always an emergency to the left.
00:26:08.000So therefore, unless it was an how does the NSA define an emergency?
00:26:12.000I guess under certain court orders, we're still living under an emergency like COVID, right?
00:26:51.000And if you don't, we're going to spy on you.
00:26:54.000That could be an international emergency.
00:26:56.000But what happens if all of a sudden German or UK or French intelligence agencies are spying on Tucker and they give that data to the NSA?
00:27:08.000What if a different agency like the Australian intelligence agency does the spying for the NSA and then sends that data to the NSA and the NSA sends it to the FBI?
00:27:18.000What's to prevent that from happening?
00:27:45.000Senator Church type reset is needed right now.
00:27:49.000And the way that they worded this was to try to avoid a congressional subpoena or being caught up in a cross-examination by members of Congress.
00:28:06.000Well, Lindsey Graham and the type, they actually love Big Brother.
00:28:10.000They have always loved the surveillance state.
00:28:13.000But what's been remarkable to see, what's been so telling, is how the media, who used to always be at war with the intelligence agencies, are now carrying the water of the CIA.
00:28:30.000They are now carrying, they are now defending the very same intelligence agencies they used to try and expose.
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00:31:19.000George R. Well was an incredible writer and he understood that when technology reaches a certain point, tyrants will not be able to help themselves.
00:31:30.000But use that technology to try and monitor and surveil and control a citizenry.
00:31:38.000See, 1984 is not a book about politics.
00:31:41.0001984 is a book about human psychology.
00:31:44.000I reread it just a couple weeks ago, and I encourage everyone to do the same.
00:31:49.000Orwell knew that power, unrestrained by morality, will be abused.
00:31:57.000And not just abused, but you will become micromanaged by that power.
00:32:04.000And incredibly, the last page of 1984, so if you've never read it and you're planning to, then you guys can just mute me for the time being, or you can just fast forward.
00:32:17.000The last page of 1984 shows the arc that we are currently living through.
00:32:24.000You see, Orwell knew that if you are surveilled enough, if you are watched enough, eventually, that fear will turn into obedience.
00:32:39.000That the fear of Big Brother, which the entire book in 1984 starts with Winston, who lives in Airstrip 1, the new name of London, who works in the Ministry of Truth, starts with him literally changing history.
00:32:57.000It's somewhat of a love story where he finds solitude, but Big Brother saw the entire thing happen, and he then goes into, I'm way oversimplifying the entire book.
00:33:11.000Gets into prison, and he is forced eventually through solitary confinement and through torture to even renounce his romantic relationship.
00:33:23.000And Big Brother, the entire movie, the entire movie and the entire book, I should say, has this constant theme of being the villain.
00:33:32.000Then Winston sits in a bar at the end of the book, and it says, quote, Winston, sitting in a blissful dream, paid no attention as his glass was filled up.
00:33:42.000He was not running or cheering any longer.
00:33:44.000He was back in the ministry of love with everything forgiven, his soul white as snow.
00:33:49.000He was in the public dock, confessing everything, implicating everybody.
00:33:53.000He was walking down the white tiled corridor with the feeling of walking in sunlight and an armed guard at his back.
00:34:00.000The long hoped for a bullet was entering his brain in the final paragraph of the book.
00:34:07.000He gazed up at that enormous face, Big Brother.
00:34:12.00040 years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was actually hidden beneath the dark mustache.
00:34:46.000The Democrats have realized that challenging the surveillance state and the intelligence community is futile.
00:34:52.000That if they amass enough power, they will break your will that will end in the worship of that power.
00:35:00.000The entire book, Winston feared Big Brother.
00:35:03.000The entire book, he tried to escape Big Brother.
00:35:06.000The entire book, he tried to challenge Big Brother.
00:35:08.000The entire book, he tried to get the proletariat to rise up against Big Brother and the party and the telescreens and the entire Leviathan of surveillance.
00:35:16.000But eventually his will was broken and he worshipped that very tyranny the whole book described as the villain.
00:35:26.000And that is what's happened with the media.
00:35:28.000The media, instead of going to Tucker Carlson's defense, instead of coming to Tucker Carlson's aid, they're saying, how dare you question the National Security Agency, the unfounded accusation that would dare question that we're spying on you?
00:35:52.000You could be free too, Tucker Carlson, to stop asking questions.
00:35:56.000The media that used to go and submit FOIA requests of the NSA and the CIA, they now stand staring at that poster of the NSA and they say, oh, how I love you.