00:00:59.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:44.000Anybody that is in the firearm industry, anyone that knows anything about weapons, that knows anything about guns or the Second Amendment industry, they will tell you that assault weapon is a completely and totally made-up term.
00:01:58.000Assault weapon could be a baseball bat, it could be a golf club, it could be a knife.
00:02:03.000Now, when you ask somebody to define an assault weapon, which I have done, and that video continues to go viral, they just say, What?
00:02:33.000And I just want to alert the grassroots.
00:02:36.000I want to try and warn you that we are going to have to have a fight against attempted gun control coming in the next days and weeks and months.
00:02:47.000Ellie Mistahl argues that an individual's right to self-defense with a gun isn't actually provided by the Second Amendment.
00:02:54.000Its original purpose was to preserve white supremacy and slavery.
00:03:00.000In your book, Ellie, you argue that an individual right to self-defense with a gun was not provided by the Second Amendment, but by the Conservative Supreme Court's interpretation of the Second Amendment in its Heller decision.
00:03:12.000You also say, quote, there was an original purpose to the Second Amendment, but it wasn't to keep people safe.
00:03:17.000It was to preserve white supremacy and slavery.
00:03:20.000Look, Ellie Mistahl is not a serious person.
00:03:23.000He's a provocateur who just says things to try to get headlines.
00:03:27.000Interestingly enough, the National Rifle Association that comes under massive scrutiny and continuous scrutiny by the left actually started originally as an attempt to try to arm former slaves against KKK members.
00:03:44.000That one of the first initiatives the National Rifle Association engaged in was to try to increase gun ownership amongst southern slaves.
00:03:54.000The Second Amendment is applicable to all people of all colors and all backgrounds, regardless of your income level or your socioeconomic situation.
00:04:09.000Kamala Harris in Cut 12 calls for an assault weapons ban.
00:04:12.000Someone should ask her, what is an assault weapon?
00:04:14.000No, no, technically, what guns would you ban and what guns would you allow still?
00:04:21.000What exactly is the functional technical difference between a 9mm and an AR-15, besides the fact that they have increased ammunition capacity?
00:04:30.000They're semi-automatic, one pull of the trigger, one bullet.
00:04:32.000What exactly is the technical difference there?
00:04:36.000Well, if something looks scary, that doesn't necessarily mean you should ban it.
00:04:39.000In fact, there's a really bad reason to ban something.
00:04:42.000No, actually, when you get into the technical nature of gun control, of talking about this, you realize the firearm illiteracy that has plagued the entire national discourse.
00:05:05.000You know how an assault weapon was designed?
00:05:07.000It was designed for a specific purpose.
00:05:11.000To kill a lot of human beings quickly.
00:05:18.000An assault weapon is a weapon of war with no place, no place in a civil society.
00:05:26.000A weapon of war, like a pistol, is a weapon of war, because every single member in a combat theater will get a pistol as part of their standard operating equipment.
00:05:59.000You know where the actual war zone is in our country, Kamala Harris, where you don't ever mention?
00:06:03.000It's the place with the strictest gun control.
00:06:06.000Just in May so far, 59 people have been shot and killed in Chicago, 293 shot and wounded, 352 total shot, and 62 total homicides.
00:06:16.000So far in Chicago, so far this year, 231 people have been shot and killed, 1,007 shot and wounded, 1,238 total shot for 255 total homicides.
00:06:28.000Now, the vast majority of those gun deaths that are happening in Chicago, the vast majority are with semi-automatic pistols.
00:06:45.000No, they're with semi-automatic pistols that are widespread and available in most states, but not in Chicago, actually.
00:06:53.000Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country, and yet some of the highest gun violence and some of the highest deaths in general.
00:07:02.000So if we were actually serious about stemming the curve of gun violence and widespread violence, we'd talk about urban violence and gang violence and fatherlessness and all these other leading indicating issues.
00:07:15.000Chicago weekend shootings, more than 50 shot nine fatally in Memorial Day weekend violence.
00:07:21.000Memorial Day weekend in Chicago historically means a violent start to summer months.
00:07:25.000This year, police say more than 50 people were shot nine fatally over the holiday weekend.
00:07:31.000That doesn't get the attention of Kamala Harris.
00:07:33.000No, instead, right now, as we are doing this program, the House of Representatives is considering legislation to raise the limit for firearms.
00:07:43.000So I will just have a very simple question.
00:07:46.000Do you believe 18-year-olds should be able to vote?
00:07:48.000And do you believe 18-year-olds should be able to serve in the military?
00:07:51.000And it's kind of this great irony because the Democrats are telling us that we need to lower the voting age to 16.
00:07:57.000Like, we need to trust children like Greta Thunberg, but they shouldn't be able to own guns.
00:08:20.000If you should be able to vote, you should then be able to own a weapon.
00:08:23.000The White House is considering, the House is considering legislation to raise the age limit for firearms.
00:08:31.000It's happening right now as it's unfolding, which is amazing because you think about it.
00:08:35.000What about 18 or 19 or 20-year-olds on college campuses that own guns to protect themselves against the evil men?
00:08:42.000You see all these contradictions in kind of the left-wing activist groups.
00:08:46.000One of them is that they believe that men are all around the corner to destroy women and that college campuses have rape culture.
00:08:55.000If all of that was true, which is widely overexaggerated, but if all of that was true, then wouldn't you want to be able to have young 18, 19, and 20-year-olds be able to own weapons and be able to defend themselves against that?
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00:12:08.000This is not just here to just show you.
00:12:12.000They really do believe in gun control.
00:12:14.000Now, the great response from Rep Stubay came on Twitter, where Democrats are losing their mind that Representative Stube would even motion that he's showing a gun.
00:12:24.000So Eric Swalwell said, with a screen grab of Representative Stubay, said, this is who Republicans are.
00:12:31.000Kids are being buried and they're bragging about how many guns they own during our gun safety hearing.
00:12:49.000Of course, a slight towards Eric Swalwell's lover, Fang Fang, the Chinese spy, where Eric Swalwell was very close to Fang Fang and never got held accountable for that.
00:13:02.000A recent poll conducted by the Trafalgar Group shows that a majority of Americans favor arming teachers.
00:13:10.00057.5% of voters believe schools are somewhat or much more danger without teachers who carry a legal firearm.
00:13:17.000The support for arming teachers is increasing.
00:13:21.000Among all political breakdowns, arming properly trained teachers was the most popular position.
00:13:26.000Republicans voiced the largest support for arming educators.
00:13:30.000A plurality of Democrats agreed, with 48% telling pollsters that armed and trained teachers made schools less dangerous versus 41.3%.
00:13:43.000These people had a goal to confiscate weapons prior to these mass tragedies, and they're going to continue that.
00:13:50.000Now, they're going to come up against a lot and a fair amount of opposition.
00:13:54.000It's really interesting to see Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona, who's awful, he's even been a little bit careful on the gun issue lately.
00:14:02.000He's married to Gabby Giffords, who was shot in the head and survived, thankfully.
00:14:08.000But gun control is kind of his big thing.
00:14:11.000Even he has been a little bit careful on his messaging because he knows Arizonans love their guns, that there's 5 million new gun owners across America the last couple years.
00:14:19.000And this is where Democrats are going to run into a very difficult political situation.
00:14:24.000Now, upper-middle-class rich people, they're actually the most supportive of gun control.
00:14:29.000You know who's the least supportive of gun control?
00:14:32.000Because they want to actually be able to protect themselves and they don't live in upper-middle-class neighborhoods that are policed by armed security or by police patrols every 20 minutes.
00:14:42.000It's a luxury of wealth to be able to be against firearm ownership.
00:14:47.000Upper middle class suburban communities, they say, oh, well, there's no crime in our communities, so who needs guns?
00:14:54.000Plumbers, electricians, teachers, firefighters, and police officers earning $55,000 a year in communities that aren't, quote-unquote, as safe, and they need to defend themselves and their family against potential threats.
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00:17:43.000So gun control is on everyone's mind, but it's very confusing kind of what is being debated and kind of the legislative details around that.
00:17:50.000A phenomenal piece that I read in the Federalist is: quote, there is no bipartisan gun compromise in the works, just GOP capitulation.
00:17:58.000We read from that piece the other day, and with us is the author of that piece, John Davidson.
00:18:03.000John, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:18:22.000It's a handful of Republicans in the Senate, according to recent news reports led by Senator John Cornyn of Texas, which is my home state.
00:18:32.000Certainly, Texans are not in support of red flag laws and quote universal background checks.
00:18:40.000But John Cornyn is nevertheless leading the charge to negotiate with his Democratic colleagues.
00:18:46.000Other usual suspects like Senator Lindsey Graham are on board, as well as sort of the rhino of them all, Mitch McConnell.
00:18:55.000And it's a small group of senators at this point.
00:18:58.000I think it's very unlikely that they're going to get much traction in negotiating with Democrats, but it tells you how unserious they are about defending the Second Amendment.
00:19:08.000They either don't care about it or they don't understand at all what the Second Amendment means to the voters in the states that they represent.
00:19:18.000Yeah, so let's get detailed here, right?
00:19:21.000So let's kind of get into what is actually in some of the minutiae.
00:19:26.000And so I'm against red flag laws and for good reason.
00:19:30.000But some members in our audience, we get some emails and they say, come on, Charlie, that sounds like a good idea.
00:19:34.000I mean, come on, what would be so wrong about allowing the government to put flags on people not to be able to own weapons?
00:19:42.000Obvious response that we give is look at the domestic terrorist list where moms and dads are now considered to be domestic terrorists, the ever-increasing wide-ranging definition.
00:20:02.000Well, my reply specifically to the notion of red flag laws is to say that the best way to think about them is to think of them as being convicted of a pre-crime, right?
00:20:12.000That Tom Cruise movie, Minority Report from years ago.
00:20:17.000You essentially have a judge hold a hearing where the person who is accused of not being fit to own guns is not present.
00:20:29.000You don't even know it's taking place.
00:20:31.000What happens is that local police or ATF agents would just show up at your front door and say, hey, you've been judged incompetent to own firearms.
00:20:39.000Surprise, hand over all your guns right now.
00:20:42.000And you don't even know that it's happening.
00:20:44.000So it's what they call an ex parte hearing.
00:20:56.000You don't have the ability to defend yourself, to mount, bring any evidence in your favor.
00:21:02.000You can be accused by an ex-spouse, a jilted lover, a neighbor who disagrees with the American flag that you put out on your front porch for Memorial Day.
00:21:14.000Anything could potentially be deemed reason for you to have your guns taken away from you without the ability to defend yourself.
00:21:21.000So for one thing, it's anti-constitutional.
00:21:24.000It completely tramples on due process.
00:21:26.000But the other thing I'll say about this is that the idea of introducing a federal red flag law isn't a compromise.
00:21:35.000A compromise is when one party gives something up and the other party gives something up and then they sign meet in the middle and both sides get a little bit of what they want.
00:21:44.000This is just Republicans saying, okay, Democrats, you've wanted red flag laws for many years and finally we are going to cave into the pressure from the corporate press and sort of, you know, the talking heads in Washington and New York and just give in to your demand.
00:22:04.000You know, I mean, I wouldn't be in favor of this, but at least it would be a compromise if Republicans said, okay, Democrats, you want red flag laws.
00:22:11.000How about we ban gun-free zones in schools and colleges that receive federal funding?
00:22:42.000And Johnny Depp is not able to own a firearm.
00:22:44.000So you kind of, and again, we talked about the Johnny Depp, Amber Heard thing at length.
00:22:48.000I'm not exactly into whole celebrity palace intrigue, but I think that's a good example for the audience to understand.
00:22:53.000You have a psychopathic woman like Amber Heard that just says something, and potentially a red flag law could disarm an innocent person who's just been accused of something without their knowledge.
00:23:07.000So what states currently have these laws on the books right now?
00:23:16.00019 states, I believe, have some version of a red flag law.
00:23:21.000You know, obviously the West Coast, very liberal states, California, Oregon, Washington, New York has a red flag law.
00:23:29.000I believe California's one of the most onerous in terms of trampling on due process.
00:23:38.000I believe in California that if you've been a patient at a mental health facility twice in the same year, you're banned from owning firearms for the rest of your life.
00:23:51.000I may have some of the details wrong, but it's something very extreme that is permanent and that permanently takes away Second Amendment rights.
00:24:03.000So this is the idea behind the congressional negotiations would be have some version of a national red flag law that would apply to all 50 states that would be some kind of criteria.
00:24:15.000All of the 19 states that have red flag laws right now have different criteria, slightly different, and they're relatively new laws.
00:24:23.000So it's hard to judge sort of to kind of measure what the effects of them have been since they haven't been in place for more than one or two years, I believe.
00:24:34.000But that's the situation right now, that we have, you know, this handful of states that have them and Democrats and apparently a handful of Republicans who don't care about the Second Amendment would like to have a national red flag law and get nothing in return.
00:24:49.000Yeah, I mean, and I just want to, of course, it's just a capitulation.
00:24:53.000I mean, you could bring in an unrelated issue and topic that I think I wouldn't agree with this, by the way.
00:24:59.000But if Republicans were smart, they'd say, we're not sitting down at the table until you're willing to put $40 billion of border security, build the wall immediately.
00:25:54.000I mean, it's just, it's, and they always like, we need more businessmen in DC.
00:25:57.000Like, how about you start acting like one?
00:25:59.000Can you kind of build out the likelihood of this legislative package passing?
00:26:05.000Because some people are getting pretty nervous.
00:26:07.000What do you think the actual chances of this becoming law are?
00:26:11.000I think the chances of an actual federal red flag law are pretty low simply because of its appalling, you know, undermining of due process that it represents.
00:26:23.000And I think once you explain to people what a red flag law is, support for it kind of, you know, dries up very quickly.
00:26:31.000And I know, you know, the corporate press would like to quote all of these polls that say, oh, 85% of Americans support red flag laws.
00:26:38.000Well, yeah, but look at the polls, look at the crosstabs, look at what they actually ask.
00:26:42.000Do they explain that you could have your guns taken away in a judicial hearing that you don't even know about?
00:26:48.000So once the debate actually ensues about the details of what a red flag law is, I think the support for it will dry up.
00:26:56.000I think it may be a little bit more likely that you have some federal version of universal background checks, which is really would be something for the Republicans who believe in this stuff to say like, oh, we, you know, we struck a deal with Democrats and got gun legislation through.
00:27:13.000But in reality, as you know and I know, and probably most of your viewers know, anyone who goes to a store and buys a gun has a background check.
00:27:21.000Like the vast majority, 95 plus percent of gun sales in the U.S. involve a background check.
00:27:26.000So in terms of actually changing anything, this would be pure legislative theater.
00:27:32.000So, maybe, you know, because it's pure legislative theater, that one has a slightly better chance of getting through than the red flag law.
00:27:39.000Yeah, and there's this gun show loophole farce.
00:27:41.000But, yeah, based on the 1986 Brady bill, if I'm not mistaken, we do have some form of background checks.
00:27:48.000What they won't tell you, though, is that the FBI hasn't done their job in forever.
00:27:52.000They get a heads up on a lot of these shooters before, and they're not doing their job.
00:27:58.000So, before you pass all new laws, just ask why is our national police force more interested in targeting moms and dads that show up at school board meetings and not intervening with these potential pressure cooker people that legitimately could be shooting up a school or something unthinkable.
00:28:13.000But they always want to pass another law.
00:29:57.000I think that these Republicans who are sitting down with Democrats in Washington are so disconnected from normal Americans and the communities that they ostensibly represent, they have no idea how unpopular what they're contemplating really is.
00:30:14.000Most Americans understand that there is, you know, a constitutional right to own firearms and that gun laws are only followed by law-abiding Americans.
00:30:27.000And, you know, just deeply disturbed people who go and shoot up schools and massacre elementary school children are not going to abide by laws, are not going to abide by gun laws any more than criminals are.
00:30:41.000The idea that you stop these school shootings by outlawing guns is like saying you stop murder by outlawing murder.
00:30:51.000You know, so it's common sense on the one hand, but common sense is something that our elected leaders in Washington have very little of.
00:30:58.000And we see that in these efforts to negotiate with and strike a deal with Democrats who, by the way, I was going to mention this in the last segment.
00:31:07.000Democrats are done negotiating or striking compromises.
00:31:11.000When was the last time Democrats decided to compromise with Republicans on anything?
00:31:15.000Their party is controlled by the hard, left-wing activist-based that is unwilling to compromise on any issue.
00:31:22.000And so the idea that there would be some kind of a deal about guns is absolutely farcical, completely divorced from reality.
00:31:31.000The Democrats have not conceded anything since the roaring 20s, and that's not an exaggeration.
00:31:36.000Since FDR, the Democrats have not given an inch.
00:31:39.000Since the Roaring 20s, they have never come to a legislative consensus that is in the favor of something conservatives want.
00:31:47.000The only exception might be in the 1990s with Bill Clinton, who might have come to the middle on crime and some other issues.
00:31:53.000That might be, but they were getting tons of things in return, like mass immigration, all this other garbage.
00:32:12.000Is it kind of just this, I so deeply want to be accepted by the Washington Post, and this is my time to shine?
00:32:19.000What exactly do you think is the motivating factor here?
00:32:22.000Well, without speculating on the condition of their soul, I do think that a lot of these politicians in Washington are very sensitive to the kinds of things that are said about them in places like the Washington Post and the New York Times.
00:32:37.000When you spend the majority of your professional career and your adult life in Washington, D.C., you know, nobody likes to be a pariah, right?
00:32:48.000And that's what you become in D.C. if you're like, you know, Ted Cruz or Chip Roy and you sort of say the impolite thing and call people out and stick to your principles.
00:33:01.000It's much easier to get along in Washington, D.C. if you're more like John Cornyn or Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham.
00:33:09.000That way, you don't get nasty things said about you in the paper of record.
00:33:15.000And I think that normal, everyday average Americans underestimate that aspect of life in Washington, D.C. and in Congress, that how much of an influence that has on the kinds of things that happen, the kinds of things that don't happen in D.C.
00:33:47.000The pressure on people like Cornyn and others to conform and to become a reasonable person, the Washington Post, it is not understood, I think, by most voters.
00:33:57.000Like, well, why would you care what the Washington Post says?