The Charlie Kirk Show - May 11, 2022


Unpacking the $40 Billion Bipartisan Betrayal with Jack Posobiec


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Trump Endorsement Is it alive and well? Is it challenged? What happened in the primary votes last night? We break it down for you one by one. And Jack Pasobic talks about a certain Pennsylvania primary candidate you re not going to want to miss.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:02.000 This is Andrew Colvet, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show, filling in once again for Charlie today.
00:00:07.000 The jam-packed hour in store for you.
00:00:10.000 You're not going to want to miss it.
00:00:12.000 I start off with the absolutely disgusting display out of Washington.
00:00:17.000 And when I tell you that I'm upset, I'm very, very upset.
00:00:21.000 And I'm trying to hold back my emotion.
00:00:24.000 The $40 billion that the House just voted for, and only 57 Republicans voted up, voted against it.
00:00:31.000 Are you kidding me?
00:00:32.000 I have the details.
00:00:33.000 And I bring Jack Pasobic on to talk about the Trump endorsement.
00:00:38.000 Is it alive and well?
00:00:38.000 Is it challenged?
00:00:39.000 What happened in the primary votes last night?
00:00:42.000 We break it down for you one by one.
00:00:44.000 And he also dishes a little bit on a certain primary candidate for Senate in the state of Pennsylvania that you're not going to want to miss.
00:00:53.000 We have the receipts.
00:00:54.000 We have the tape.
00:00:55.000 All right here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
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00:01:43.000 All right, so I want to start with this story that came across the wire last night.
00:01:50.000 And I have to be honest, it's been a while since I have been this upset.
00:01:59.000 This just viscerally upset about something.
00:02:02.000 There is a bipartisan consensus in Washington to escalate a foreign conflict for which there are no clear benefits for the American people.
00:02:15.000 Last night, the House approves $40 billion in aid for Ukraine.
00:02:21.000 That's right.
00:02:22.000 $40 billion in Ukraine.
00:02:25.000 The aid package passed in a 368 to 57 vote.
00:02:30.000 Only 57 Republicans voted against this.
00:02:34.000 The legislation includes $6 billion for security assistance, including training, equipment, weapons, logistical support, supplies and services for military and national security forces in Ukraine, and $900 million for refugee support services, such as housing, language classes, and trauma services.
00:02:53.000 Roughly $8.7 billion of the cash in the legislation will go to the economic support fund to respond to emergent needs in Ukraine, including budget support and countering human trafficking.
00:03:05.000 Well, that's nice.
00:03:07.000 So the U.S. government is very concerned about human trafficking on Ukraine's border, but not so much on our own.
00:03:14.000 I am going to simply get started by allowing Representative Chip Roy to articulate some of the frustration that I am currently in possession of.
00:03:29.000 I think I voice the concerns of millions of Americans when we see a number as high as 40.
00:03:36.000 Now, remember, Biden wanted 33 billion, which was insane in and of itself.
00:03:44.000 And I'm going to explain just how insane that is in a second.
00:03:46.000 But let's let Chip Roy take it from here.
00:03:51.000 Let's cut 76.
00:03:53.000 Someone from Maryland talked about protecting this institution or talked about this institution, but we got a $40 billion bill at three o'clock in the afternoon.
00:04:01.000 I haven't had a chance to review the bill.
00:04:02.000 My staff is pouring over the pages, trying to see what's in it.
00:04:05.000 You want to talk about the institution?
00:04:07.000 You want to talk about standing up alongside Ukraine?
00:04:09.000 Why don't we actually have a debate on the floor of the people's house instead of the garbage of getting a $40 billion bill at three o'clock in the afternoon, not paid for without having any idea what's really in it, with a massive slush fund that goes to the State Department, $13 billion, $8 billion for the economic support fund, $110 billion for embassy security?
00:04:28.000 We've got $40 billion that is unpaid for.
00:04:31.000 And you want to sit here and lecture this body about what we're going to do or not do about standing alongside Ukraine? 0.52
00:04:37.000 Why don't we talk about the American people who are hurting the wide open borders, the inflation that's killing people, the jobs that people can't get because of the cost of goods and services in this country?
00:04:46.000 Amen.
00:04:48.000 So let's go through this.
00:04:50.000 February 26th, Biden approves $350 million in military aid for Ukraine, according to Reuters.
00:04:57.000 March 16th, Biden approves an additional $800 million in military aid for Ukraine, according to the New York Times.
00:05:05.000 March 30th, Ukraine to receive an additional $500 million in aid from the U.S. Biden announces.
00:05:13.000 That's NBC News.
00:05:15.000 April 12th, U.S. to announce $750 million more in weapons for Ukraine, officials say, according to Reuters.
00:05:21.000 May 6th, Biden announces a new $150 million weapons package for Ukraine.
00:05:28.000 Altogether, those amounts are in excess of $3 billion.
00:05:33.000 But by the end of April, U.S. expenditures on the war in Ukraine was close to $14 billion.
00:05:41.000 Now, that was drawn mostly from $13.5 billion that was authorized by Congress in mid-March.
00:05:48.000 Now, here's the real rub.
00:05:52.000 Remember that we are only eight months removed from the awful, cataclysmic, disastrous, embarrassing Afghanistan debacle. 1.00
00:06:04.000 Eight months removed.
00:06:06.000 Now, what had been a cash cow for the defense industry and the military-industrial complex in this country washed up overnight.
00:06:18.000 Now, the average annual budget in Afghanistan, this is average over the 20-year war, the average annual budget, military budget in Afghanistan was $46 billion.
00:06:32.000 Let me say that again: $46 billion.
00:06:35.000 In a 10-week old war, the U.S. government has now promised to allocate in excess of our average military spend in Afghanistan.
00:06:48.000 Consider this as well.
00:06:51.000 The current Defense Secretary, Lloyd Austin, just before joining the Biden administration as the Secretary of Defense, he sat on the board of Raytheon.
00:07:06.000 Now, get this.
00:07:07.000 Of that, that original $13.5 billion, $6.5 billion, roughly half the package, and we're not even talking about this new $40 billion.
00:07:17.000 We're still sorting through where the hell that's going.
00:07:20.000 That original $14 billion, about $6.5 billion, or roughly half the aid package, would go to the U.S. Department of Defense so it could deploy troops to the region and send defense equipment equipment to Ukraine.
00:07:34.000 So then Biden asked for $33 billion more.
00:07:38.000 That was more than double the $14 that I was just describing.
00:07:43.000 Now, even the White House is acknowledging that the vast majority of this spending packages will go to weaponry and other military assets.
00:07:52.000 I want you to also consider this: Russia, Russia, the great evil Russia that we are told is an existential threat to the United States and our interest.
00:08:05.000 The country, admittedly, that has the most stockpile of the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons.
00:08:15.000 Guess what their annual military budget is for the entire year?
00:08:19.000 Russia, their entire budget, $65.9 billion.
00:08:27.000 So we are already over $50 billion, nearly equaling the entire defense budget of Russia in a 10-week old war after only eight months being removed from the Afghanistan debacle.
00:08:49.000 What does that tell you about the people in Washington?
00:08:53.000 What does that tell you about the military-industrial complex?
00:08:56.000 What does that tell you about who's greasing the skids for the defense industry?
00:09:02.000 I am upset would be too kind of a word.
00:09:07.000 I'm flaming mad that this is our priorities.
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00:10:09.000 We are talking about Ukraine and this disastrous $40 billion, which the controlled opposition Republicans put their imprimatur on last evening.
00:10:22.000 $40 billion when the White House was only requesting 33.
00:10:25.000 We are now on the verge of exceeding in a 10-week old war military of the entire military budget of Russia on an annual basis in a 10-week old war.
00:10:40.000 Now, if this was Afghanistan, where we used to spend about $46 billion a year on that war, there would be, of course, some understanding that a vital security interest of the United States was at least in play.
00:10:54.000 It was at least a debatable conversation.
00:10:56.000 Now, we here on the show disagreed with extending the war in Afghanistan.
00:11:02.000 We called it a boondoggle.
00:11:03.000 We called it a mistake.
00:11:04.000 We wanted to get out of Afghanistan. 1.00
00:11:06.000 We didn't certainly want to get out the way that the Biden administration got us out.
00:11:10.000 That was a disaster and an embarrassment and a moral travesty on this country.
00:11:15.000 But at least there was an argument that could be had.
00:11:19.000 Now, what is the argument in Ukraine beyond the $14 billion that we had already earmarked?
00:11:27.000 There seems to be this bipartisan consensus that this is the way that things must go.
00:11:33.000 To illustrate that point, I want to play a cut for you.
00:11:36.000 Cut 71.
00:11:37.000 This is Mitch McConnell saying that this Ukrainian conflict is the most important issue in the world right now.
00:11:44.000 Play cuts of an.
00:11:45.000 We all agree the most important thing going on in the world right now is the war in Ukraine.
00:11:51.000 Need to do this Ukraine only and quickly. 0.98
00:11:55.000 I think we're on the path to getting that done.
00:11:58.000 Discussions are underway between the House and Senate appropriators on the crafting of the package.
00:12:05.000 It needs to be clean of extraneous matters directly related to helping the Ukrainians win the war.
00:12:13.000 This bipartisan census could care less about your interests, could care less about a baby formula shortage, could care less about inflation that's spiraling out of control.
00:12:23.000 Still, despite the Biden regime insisting that it's slowing, we've hit another record high gas price today.
00:12:32.000 Average is now at $440 across the country.
00:12:35.000 So you heard from the Republican establishment, Mitch McConnell, talking about how it's the most important issue.
00:12:41.000 What does Pelosi have to say?
00:12:42.000 What do the Democrats have to say?
00:12:43.000 Cut 74.
00:12:45.000 The impact that it is having on food for the world.
00:12:50.000 So when you're home thinking, what is this all about?
00:12:54.000 Just think about when I was hungry, you fed me.
00:12:59.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:13:00.000 So she's quoting the gospel of Matthew to make a pitch for at least, from what we can dig through in these numbers, $20 billion more going into the pockets of the defense industry.
00:13:12.000 Now, again, this is causing such a draw on military stockpiles for the United States military, such as javelins, warheads, that sort of thing, that they're now having to lobby.
00:13:25.000 The regime is having to lobby the defense industry to create more capacity.
00:13:31.000 So what did the White House do?
00:13:34.000 The White House has met with them on several occasions, the tiny group of Americans who benefit from this massive expenditure.
00:13:41.000 They have met with the top U.S. defense officials, the top eight CEOs in the U.S. defense industry, all to discuss increasing capacity.
00:13:51.000 Top U.S. defense officials will meet with chief executives of the eight largest U.S. defense contractors to discuss industry capacity to meet Ukraine's weapons needs if the war with Russia continues for years.
00:14:03.000 You see that?
00:14:05.000 So we got out of one boondoggle that lasted 20 years, an absolute neocon mistake of the Bush administration that was continued on for years and years and years.
00:14:14.000 And now we are preparing for another boondoggle that will actually be more expensive in a war that is apparently not our own.
00:14:23.000 And yet, Speaker Pelosi just visited Ukraine.
00:14:27.000 And what did she have to say?
00:14:29.000 She said, we will win this war at all costs.
00:14:33.000 And then she goes and quotes the gospel of Matthew to defend it.
00:14:38.000 On May 3rd, Biden visited Lockheed Martin facility and praised the plant that manufactures javelin anti-tank missiles, saying their work was critical to the Ukrainian war effort and to the defense of democracy itself.
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00:15:52.000 We just got through with Ukraine, a man who has a lot of thoughts on Ukraine, I'm sure.
00:15:56.000 It's Jack Bisobic, Human Events Daily.
00:15:58.000 Jack, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:16:01.000 Andrew, thank you so much for having me on.
00:16:03.000 Jack, I sort of teased you in a false way there because we can get to Ukraine.
00:16:09.000 Maybe we'll get that in segment two because I know we have to- We can talk about the America last spending bill that was just pushed forward by 70%, 70%, 149 of 211 in the House GOP voted for this thing.
00:16:20.000 Launch into it.
00:16:20.000 America last.
00:16:21.000 Launch into it.
00:16:22.000 Give me your take. 0.90
00:16:23.000 Well, I've got to, you know, I don't usually quote Tupac, but I might have to drop a few bars because Tupac, I think, famously said, you know, they got money for wars, but they can't feed the poor, right?
00:16:35.000 And we're in that situation right now where literally I've got friends with newborns that newborns or babies, and they can't find baby formula.
00:16:48.000 They're like, you got grandmoms circling, you know, hitting up targets in Walmarts across the Midwest, across Pennsylvania.
00:16:55.000 And we can't feed our own children.
00:16:57.000 We can't prevent incursions on our own southern border, but we're going to spend $40 billion of your dollars and send it overseas to a war in Eurasia where there is no American direct national interest.
00:17:13.000 That's your government.
00:17:14.000 That's exactly right.
00:17:15.000 That's America last.
00:17:16.000 And it's a bipartisan consensus, which is the most infuriating part.
00:17:19.000 Well, the thing for me, the way I look at it, though, real quick, is that it's 30% that voted against it, but you know what?
00:17:24.000 Five, six years ago, that would have been 5%.
00:17:26.000 So that number is growing.
00:17:28.000 That's the momentum shift.
00:17:29.000 Listen, and this is why we need to back America First candidates. 0.99
00:17:32.000 This is why Turning Point USA launched its own PAC because we're sick of this crap. 0.98
00:17:36.000 And, you know, I don't use heated language. 0.98
00:17:40.000 I try not to use heated language this morning.
00:17:41.000 I just simply cannot help myself.
00:17:43.000 Andrew, tone it down.
00:17:44.000 This is a family show.
00:17:45.000 Exactly.
00:17:45.000 This is a Christian show.
00:17:46.000 I mean, listen, I'm not for big government handouts.
00:17:46.000 Listen to this.
00:17:49.000 I'm not for bloated government welfare roles and all this stuff.
00:17:53.000 But let's just, let's just, if we're going to be consistent, look at this.
00:17:56.000 Almost 30 million Americans are without health insurance.
00:17:59.000 I thought that was the Democrats' big issue here.
00:17:59.000 Okay.
00:18:02.000 Nearly 40% of baby formula brands were sold out of retailers across the U.S. during starting the week of April 24th.
00:18:09.000 Most Americans can't afford college because of the administrative blow because of easy money from the federal government, massive student loan debts.
00:18:17.000 And now we're going to have to bail that out too.
00:18:19.000 How about this?
00:18:20.000 Meanwhile, monthly poverty remained elevated in February 2022 with a 14.4% poverty rate for the U.S. total U.S. population.
00:18:28.000 Get this.
00:18:29.000 Overall, 6 million more individuals were in poverty in February relative to December.
00:18:35.000 And we got $40 billion or we don't have it.
00:18:37.000 We're going to borrow it.
00:18:38.000 We're going to print it to send javelins to Ukraine in a war that we don't have any direct interest in.
00:18:49.000 Although Nancy Pelosi, Jack, says we're going to win this war at all costs because that's what the American people apparently want.
00:18:55.000 Well, I liked how she said, you know, you have to, when I was hungry, you fed me.
00:18:59.000 So she's quoting the gospel of Matthew when it comes to this.
00:19:02.000 Devout Catholic Nancy Pelosi quoting the gospel of Matthew, right?
00:19:07.000 You know, all praise and supplication to Saint Raytheon the Blessed, by the way.
00:19:13.000 Last time I checked, I want to know, you know, Secretary of Defense Austin, he came from the board of Raytheon and he told us that he wasn't going to be divesting of his stocks in Raytheon, but he was going to put it into a blind trust.
00:19:26.000 Really, I'd like to know how much are you actually profiting from every single javelin that goes over?
00:19:33.000 How much money goes into Lloyd Austin's pocket and the pockets of everybody else that's on the take from these defense contractors?
00:19:39.000 I just, it would be nice to know.
00:19:40.000 That's like, There's that thing, I think it was a Democrat thing where they were saying, but I agree with this one actually, where they say that politicians should wear their sponsors on their jackets the same way NASCAR drivers do.
00:19:53.000 So you could see, like, whenever they come up and speak, you see like Raytheon, Lockheed, Black Rock, you know.
00:19:59.000 Gosh, it's so infuriating.
00:20:02.000 I mean, you know, it'd be one thing, Jack.
00:20:05.000 I could actually stomach a lot of this if it was if they had the border locked down, if they had an immigration system that actually worked.
00:20:13.000 And we, you know, this is what's so frustrating.
00:20:15.000 Millions and millions of dollars.
00:20:18.000 If this was to bomb the cartels and it was to actually go after the cartels and secure the border, 40 billion, take 50 billion.
00:20:25.000 Go for it, right?
00:20:26.000 Because that actually would secure our country.
00:20:29.000 It would save the lives of Americans in the long run.
00:20:32.000 It would stop the flow of illegal and fatal fentanyl into our country.
00:20:36.000 You guys want to secure that all day long?
00:20:38.000 I just wanted to build a wall.
00:20:40.000 All I wanted was five for that.
00:20:41.000 You guys are talking 40, 50?
00:20:43.000 Let's do it.
00:20:44.000 Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
00:20:45.000 I mean, I think Trump is asking for 15.
00:20:47.000 I think it realistically would have ended up costing between 20 and 25 to get it all the way completed.
00:20:51.000 Nevertheless, you've got Senator Menendez saying, oh, well, this isn't going fast enough through the Senate.
00:20:59.000 He's worried it's not going fast enough.
00:21:01.000 And, you know, the shrewd Republicans are basically arguing over additional COVID funding of another $25 billion.
00:21:09.000 And that's where they're complaining to me.
00:21:11.000 He said, I thought this was going to be Greece Lightning.
00:21:13.000 Are you kidding me?
00:21:14.000 Now, I love that you brought up the bombing of the cartels because that was the big, we actually haven't talked about it on the show this week, but it was the big controversy over the weekend that, you know, what's funny is they tried to make it a controversy until, and so they started it out and you saw that.
00:21:29.000 And I know you're, you know, you study the media closer than anybody, even closer than me and Charlie, I think sometimes.
00:21:34.000 People don't know that about you, Andrew.
00:21:36.000 And that what they were doing with the wind up to this, you could see the classic setup.
00:21:40.000 So first you see the Maggie Haberman piece in the New York Times drops.
00:21:44.000 She gets the scoop.
00:21:45.000 Then the 60 Minutes interview comes out and they tease.
00:21:48.000 This is key.
00:21:49.000 They tease the 60 Minutes interview with the exact same content that's in the New York Times piece.
00:21:55.000 So you can see the magic hand of PR, the invisible hand of PR working in the background to set up all this.
00:22:02.000 But the problem was that for them was that when the New York Times piece hit, everybody was like, yeah, bomb the cartels.
00:22:09.000 Absolutely.
00:22:10.000 Why wouldn't we do that?
00:22:11.000 You actually had some voices on the, I would say center right, and I mean that sort of in the center, like Eric Erickson, for example, saying, actually, that's not a bad idea.
00:22:21.000 You know, I mean, that was the broad consensus that we were experiencing.
00:22:25.000 Jack, I honestly could rant about this for the entire segment.
00:22:29.000 And, you know, perhaps I should.
00:22:31.000 But I did tease that we were going to talk about the Trump endorsement.
00:22:35.000 Okay.
00:22:35.000 We had some big primaries last night.
00:22:38.000 And by the way, it's all related, right?
00:22:40.000 You're saying that, listen, five years ago, we would have had seven no votes and now we got 57.
00:22:44.000 Okay.
00:22:45.000 So it's like if we're going to continue this momentum and put up a firewall against this America last agenda, this by the way.
00:22:52.000 So we got numbers, right?
00:22:52.000 We got numbers now.
00:22:53.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:22:54.000 At least we're gaining momentum.
00:22:56.000 The conservative populist wing, if you might call it that, is growing.
00:23:00.000 What happened last night?
00:23:01.000 We had Nebraska.
00:23:02.000 We've got updates out of Pennsylvania, West Virginia.
00:23:05.000 Tell us what happened.
00:23:07.000 Well, so West Virginia, that was pretty much a clear-cut shot in that race where you had establishment versus a Trump candidate, a Trump candidate, Alex Mooney, won in spades.
00:23:16.000 Huge, huge win there.
00:23:18.000 Nebraska, a lot of people were trying to read that as whether or not it was the Trump endorsement, was the magic sauce or whether it wasn't.
00:23:25.000 And people also tried to talk about that in terms of the JD Vance victory in Ohio last week.
00:23:31.000 But I would caution that when it comes to Ohio, because, and yeah, I know JD, I know Josh both very well.
00:23:38.000 J.D. Vence was already a very known quantity in the state of Ohio, right?
00:23:42.000 He had number one best-selling book all about the people of Ohio.
00:23:45.000 He had the number one movie on Netflix with Glenn Close and Amy Adams, right?
00:23:49.000 He's a big, big name in Ohio.
00:23:51.000 So I think the danger with some of these races is trying to view them all through the lens of the Trump endorsement when there's a lot of dynamics going on on the ground in the state that are actually also at play. 0.95
00:24:02.000 I mean, voters are busy, but they're not stupid, right?
00:24:04.000 And so you have the exact same thing in the state of Nebraska because you've got this huge jungle primary kind of thing going. 1.00
00:24:11.000 Well, not jungle in the sense that it's top two, but just a lot of people involved.
00:24:14.000 And so Pillin was the establishment candidate.
00:24:19.000 Then you had Landstrom, who's more of a moderate candidate.
00:24:22.000 And then the MAGA candidate was this guy, Herbster.
00:24:25.000 Now, what's interesting, so Herbster loses by about six points, but the establishment up there, which is really controlled by the Ricketts machine, Governor Pete Ricketts and his family, they were, you know, the financial success behind TD Ameritrade.
00:24:39.000 They went on, they endorsed Pillen, but then something very interesting happened.
00:24:42.000 Herbster originally had a running mate known as Teresa Thibodeau, and she was, I believe, a state senator and then was running as his LG.
00:24:51.000 Late last year, she dropped out of the race as his running mate.
00:24:56.000 Then a couple of months later, comes back and says that she's running for governor, and then she exclusively campaigns.
00:25:04.000 And I was just in Nebraska.
00:25:05.000 Nebraska is two states.
00:25:06.000 It's two states.
00:25:07.000 You got the West, and that is like Yellowstone out there, if you watch the TV show.
00:25:11.000 And 1883, and they've got the wagon wheels and the cattle, and that is Western Nebraska.
00:25:17.000 Eastern Nebraska, Omaha, that's the Midwest.
00:25:19.000 It's a completely different vibe.
00:25:22.000 So a candidate like Herbster does well in the West.
00:25:24.000 A candidate like Pillan does well in the East.
00:25:26.000 But what did Thibodeau do?
00:25:28.000 She went and campaigned exclusively in the West, and she went directly for those Western Nebraska MAGA voters and split that base.
00:25:37.000 And guess what her percentage was?
00:25:38.000 If you look exactly 6.1%.
00:25:43.000 And now, you know, the voters are the voters.
00:25:45.000 Yeah, Jack, so it looks like Charles Herbster got about 28.6% of the vote, losing to Jim Pillen at 33.4%.
00:25:53.000 So you add those two together.
00:25:55.000 You've got 34.7%.
00:25:55.000 Yes, exactly.
00:25:58.000 He wins by about a point.
00:25:59.000 Right.
00:26:00.000 So you take out Thibodeau, it goes back.
00:26:01.000 Now, of course, people always say it's dangerous to make those arguments because you don't know if those voters would have automatically associated with another candidate, et cetera.
00:26:09.000 Sure, I get that.
00:26:10.000 But this was part of the strategy.
00:26:12.000 It was part of the strategy to split the MAGA vote so that an establishment candidate could win.
00:26:16.000 And in this case, that's what happened.
00:26:18.000 Of course, you can't talk about that race without talking about this huge scandal that erupts in the media against Herbster, women coming out, accusing him of things.
00:26:28.000 It reminds a lot of people of what happened to Trump in 16, reminds a lot of people what happened to Kavanaugh when he came up.
00:26:34.000 And I'm not making any judgment statement based on those.
00:26:36.000 I'm just saying this is the same type of playbook that we've seen.
00:26:40.000 Yeah, you're exactly right.
00:26:41.000 I want to play some sound here.
00:26:44.000 I think Trump even, just to finish your point, Jack, said there was a lot of headwinds.
00:26:47.000 And so I think you articulated those very well.
00:26:50.000 So as we dive into the Trump endorsement here, let's play a cut, Cut 68, talking about this is poll numbers out of PA.
00:27:00.000 How they this is there a Pennsylvania race coming up?
00:27:02.000 Is there something going on in PA?
00:27:03.000 Might be, might be.
00:27:04.000 I want to keep your powder dry on this, Jack, because I know you got a lot to say about the Oz race. 1.00
00:27:08.000 So let's go ahead and play Cut 68.
00:27:11.000 I mean, we saw that here in our poll, the Fox News poll that just came out last night.
00:27:16.000 Trump's endorsement makes you more supportive or less supportive of Oz.
00:27:20.000 It was 37% more supportive.
00:27:22.000 So we saw that there, no effect with 37%.
00:27:25.000 But then there's this one, which is what matters most to you when you're choosing a candidate?
00:27:29.000 Can the person win in November, 62%?
00:27:32.000 Is this person really from Pennsylvania?
00:27:35.000 Interesting question you have to ask, right?
00:27:36.000 At 35%.
00:27:38.000 And as a strong Trump supporter, 27%.
00:27:42.000 So, Jack, as you were kind of articulating, there's multiple dynamics in every endorsement, right?
00:27:47.000 But what you cannot say is that the Trump endorsement doesn't mean anything.
00:27:50.000 It might be the one endorsement that actually does mean something, as a matter of fact.
00:27:55.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:27:56.000 And so, Pennsylvania, that's my state.
00:27:57.000 So, that's my home state.
00:27:59.000 I'm from the area that's in eastern Pennsylvania.
00:28:02.000 But again, similar to Nebraska, Pennsylvania is a state with two minds where you've got eastern Pennsylvania, which is full of people who just put it this way: they do not vote how I do.
00:28:12.000 They were not, that was not the part of the state that was the Trump base in 16 or 2020.
00:28:18.000 That's really more Western Pennsylvania.
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00:29:42.000 Jack, there's this whole primary race in the senatorial side, G-O-P in Pennsylvania.
00:29:49.000 You might have heard something about it.
00:29:50.000 A little bit.
00:29:51.000 Yeah, a little bit.
00:29:52.000 All right.
00:29:53.000 We're tongue-in-cheek here, folks, because Jack Pesovic has probably been the most vocal critic on the right about one of Trump's endorsements.
00:30:01.000 Now, I just want to say right here and now, obviously, we love the president, President Trump.
00:30:06.000 He's been on the show multiple times, he's friends with Charlie.
00:30:10.000 I'm not denigrating the president here, but Jack, you have some pretty strong episodes.
00:30:15.000 So, this is what puts me in a weird situation because I was a day one Trump supporter even before the elevator, right?
00:30:23.000 You know, I remember, I remember being at CPAC in 2011 when Trump spoke on stage and saying, Man, I wish this guy was running instead of Romney, right?
00:30:33.000 That's that's the guy that I want to see as president.
00:30:35.000 So, I was a Trump supporter like way even before the campaign.
00:30:39.000 And then, when Oz got into the race after Sean Parnell dropped, I immediately said no to this.
00:30:45.000 I was, so I was an Oz opponent months before any endorsements came down.
00:30:51.000 And so, when the endorsement came down, I would been going through Oz's record and we were looking at his TV show.
00:30:56.000 And this guy, I mean, he's an Oprah Winfrey liberal, right?
00:30:58.000 He's just a liberal, right?
00:31:00.000 It's simple as that.
00:31:01.000 He's got transgender kids episodes, he's got red flag episodes, you know, all sorts of the stuff that's that's 1,600 episodes and never said one conservative thing in his life.
00:31:09.000 Well, Jack.
00:31:10.000 And so, when the endorsement came down, I basically said, Look, I'm not going to change my position on this just because something shifted in the dynamics.
00:31:18.000 Like, I can't do that.
00:31:20.000 Yeah, and Jack, I want to play a cut here.
00:31:22.000 85.
00:31:22.000 You actually said this ahead of the show, so I want to give your legwork here some do.
00:31:28.000 Cut 85.
00:31:29.000 What are your thoughts on Alabama and these anti-abortion laws that they're passing in Alabama that they've passed?
00:31:35.000 Is that healthy?
00:31:36.000 I'm really worried about it.
00:31:37.000 I'll tell you, I've taken care of a lot of women who've had issues around childbirth. 0.97
00:31:42.000 It's a big time concern because I went to medical school in Philadelphia and I saw women who'd had coat hanger events. 0.99
00:31:49.000 I mean, they're really traumatic events that happened when they were younger before Roe versus Wade.
00:31:55.000 So, Jack, what is he saying now about abortion?
00:31:57.000 This was three years ago.
00:31:58.000 Well, now he comes out and says that he's, I'm pro-life, I'm pro-life from the moment of conception.
00:32:02.000 He's saying he's saying it's like he read a book on what a conservative candidate is supposed to say, and he's just repeating all those lines, even though it's the exact opposite of everything that he espoused throughout his entire public life for you know, going back 20 years.
00:32:16.000 And you know, I may not talk about it every day, I may not always get into it because it's not always in the news.
00:32:22.000 But I like, just to be very clear about something, uh, as a Christian, for me, being pro-life is not, that's not one of those issues that I can really equivocate on, right?
00:32:31.000 That's not really something where I'm willing to, you know, accept the halfway thing with someone saying, oh, you know, up to nine months is fine and Roe v. Wade.
00:32:40.000 No, like, I can't, I can't meet you halfway there.
00:32:42.000 I just can't, right?
00:32:44.000 And so, that for me, that's they're like, why should that be a litmus test?
00:32:47.000 Because it's literally a litmus test.
00:32:48.000 Well, and when people talk about things like that, I mean, I totally agree with you, Jack.
00:32:52.000 I feel the same exact way.
00:32:54.000 I'm a father of two children.
00:32:56.000 I know you're a father as well.
00:32:57.000 When you go through the process of having a child, it changes you fundamentally.
00:33:02.000 When you go in for that first ultrasound and you see the heartbeating, and you, you, I still have uh, I still have the MP3 recorded of my son in T2 the first time he heard it.
00:33:11.000 And we listen to it all the time.
00:33:13.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:14.000 I mean, it changes you.
00:33:15.000 And so, I agree, we can't equivocate on it.
00:33:18.000 You know, that being said, Trump himself kind of had his own transformation over his political career or his public career.
00:33:27.000 And, but, but here's the here's the difference: you've got a guy in Trump who put three justices on the Supreme Court that are about to overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:33:36.000 Right.
00:33:36.000 And Trump did the work, right?
00:33:38.000 That's when people make that argument.
00:33:39.000 I've heard so many arguments about why he should be for Oz, and they bring this one up.
00:33:42.000 Trump did the work for years of coming into the Tea Party movement, coming into the conservative movement, speaking at CPAC, doing you know, making the rounds, explaining to people that he was shifting on a lot of different things that he had, you know, may have said in his Playboy days.
00:33:57.000 And it was a much more reasonable and natural understanding that he was going to be the pro, the greatest pro-life president that we've ever had, which he was, by the way.
00:34:08.000 Um, only one to speak about the March for Life, too.
00:34:11.000 Yeah, he's only one who's ever spoken about the March for Life.
00:34:13.000 And Oz just changes the day he decides to run for office.
00:34:16.000 And so I'm sorry.
00:34:16.000 No, like, I just don't buy it.
00:34:18.000 All right, Jack, you got Dr. Oz at 23%, Barnett, 21%, coming out of nowhere.
00:34:23.000 And McCoy was those nice debates, man.
00:34:25.000 She just, she blew it up at those debates. 0.91
00:34:27.000 She's got the wind behind her sails, a lot of momentum.
00:34:30.000 And it's really because Dr. Oz just has not been able to close the deal.
00:34:35.000 And we'll see next week.
00:34:36.000 We will see.
00:34:36.000 But everybody in my family chat back home in Pennsylvania, they're voting for Barnett right now.
00:34:41.000 I'll tell you what, Jack, you have definitely had an impact on this race.
00:34:44.000 I think it's undeniable.
00:34:46.000 Jack, I wish I had more time with you.
00:34:48.000 As always, thanks for coming on the show.
00:34:50.000 God bless, my friend.
00:34:51.000 Thanks, everybody, so much for listening.
00:34:53.000 I hope you got a lot out of that.
00:34:54.000 I hope you raise heck, let's just leave it at that with your elected officials in Washington.
00:35:00.000 Tell them to send, actually, tell them not to spend money at all.
00:35:03.000 Tell them if they're going to spend it, send it on, spend it on the southern border.
00:35:06.000 Write letters, raise some hell. 0.57
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