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00:01:43.000All right, so I want to start with this story that came across the wire last night.
00:01:50.000And I have to be honest, it's been a while since I have been this upset.
00:01:59.000This just viscerally upset about something.
00:02:02.000There is a bipartisan consensus in Washington to escalate a foreign conflict for which there are no clear benefits for the American people.
00:02:15.000Last night, the House approves $40 billion in aid for Ukraine.
00:02:25.000The aid package passed in a 368 to 57 vote.
00:02:30.000Only 57 Republicans voted against this.
00:02:34.000The legislation includes $6 billion for security assistance, including training, equipment, weapons, logistical support, supplies and services for military and national security forces in Ukraine, and $900 million for refugee support services, such as housing, language classes, and trauma services.
00:02:53.000Roughly $8.7 billion of the cash in the legislation will go to the economic support fund to respond to emergent needs in Ukraine, including budget support and countering human trafficking.
00:03:07.000So the U.S. government is very concerned about human trafficking on Ukraine's border, but not so much on our own.
00:03:14.000I am going to simply get started by allowing Representative Chip Roy to articulate some of the frustration that I am currently in possession of.
00:03:29.000I think I voice the concerns of millions of Americans when we see a number as high as 40.
00:03:36.000Now, remember, Biden wanted 33 billion, which was insane in and of itself.
00:03:44.000And I'm going to explain just how insane that is in a second.
00:03:46.000But let's let Chip Roy take it from here.
00:03:53.000Someone from Maryland talked about protecting this institution or talked about this institution, but we got a $40 billion bill at three o'clock in the afternoon.
00:04:01.000I haven't had a chance to review the bill.
00:04:02.000My staff is pouring over the pages, trying to see what's in it.
00:04:05.000You want to talk about the institution?
00:04:07.000You want to talk about standing up alongside Ukraine?
00:04:09.000Why don't we actually have a debate on the floor of the people's house instead of the garbage of getting a $40 billion bill at three o'clock in the afternoon, not paid for without having any idea what's really in it, with a massive slush fund that goes to the State Department, $13 billion, $8 billion for the economic support fund, $110 billion for embassy security?
00:04:28.000We've got $40 billion that is unpaid for.
00:04:31.000And you want to sit here and lecture this body about what we're going to do or not do about standing alongside Ukraine?
00:04:37.000Why don't we talk about the American people who are hurting the wide open borders, the inflation that's killing people, the jobs that people can't get because of the cost of goods and services in this country?
00:06:06.000Now, what had been a cash cow for the defense industry and the military-industrial complex in this country washed up overnight.
00:06:18.000Now, the average annual budget in Afghanistan, this is average over the 20-year war, the average annual budget, military budget in Afghanistan was $46 billion.
00:06:51.000The current Defense Secretary, Lloyd Austin, just before joining the Biden administration as the Secretary of Defense, he sat on the board of Raytheon.
00:07:07.000Of that, that original $13.5 billion, $6.5 billion, roughly half the package, and we're not even talking about this new $40 billion.
00:07:17.000We're still sorting through where the hell that's going.
00:07:20.000That original $14 billion, about $6.5 billion, or roughly half the aid package, would go to the U.S. Department of Defense so it could deploy troops to the region and send defense equipment equipment to Ukraine.
00:07:34.000So then Biden asked for $33 billion more.
00:07:38.000That was more than double the $14 that I was just describing.
00:07:43.000Now, even the White House is acknowledging that the vast majority of this spending packages will go to weaponry and other military assets.
00:07:52.000I want you to also consider this: Russia, Russia, the great evil Russia that we are told is an existential threat to the United States and our interest.
00:08:05.000The country, admittedly, that has the most stockpile of the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons.
00:08:15.000Guess what their annual military budget is for the entire year?
00:08:19.000Russia, their entire budget, $65.9 billion.
00:08:27.000So we are already over $50 billion, nearly equaling the entire defense budget of Russia in a 10-week old war after only eight months being removed from the Afghanistan debacle.
00:08:49.000What does that tell you about the people in Washington?
00:08:53.000What does that tell you about the military-industrial complex?
00:08:56.000What does that tell you about who's greasing the skids for the defense industry?
00:09:02.000I am upset would be too kind of a word.
00:09:07.000I'm flaming mad that this is our priorities.
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00:10:09.000We are talking about Ukraine and this disastrous $40 billion, which the controlled opposition Republicans put their imprimatur on last evening.
00:10:22.000$40 billion when the White House was only requesting 33.
00:10:25.000We are now on the verge of exceeding in a 10-week old war military of the entire military budget of Russia on an annual basis in a 10-week old war.
00:10:40.000Now, if this was Afghanistan, where we used to spend about $46 billion a year on that war, there would be, of course, some understanding that a vital security interest of the United States was at least in play.
00:10:54.000It was at least a debatable conversation.
00:10:56.000Now, we here on the show disagreed with extending the war in Afghanistan.
00:11:45.000We all agree the most important thing going on in the world right now is the war in Ukraine.
00:11:51.000Need to do this Ukraine only and quickly.
00:11:55.000I think we're on the path to getting that done.
00:11:58.000Discussions are underway between the House and Senate appropriators on the crafting of the package.
00:12:05.000It needs to be clean of extraneous matters directly related to helping the Ukrainians win the war.
00:12:13.000This bipartisan census could care less about your interests, could care less about a baby formula shortage, could care less about inflation that's spiraling out of control.
00:12:23.000Still, despite the Biden regime insisting that it's slowing, we've hit another record high gas price today.
00:12:32.000Average is now at $440 across the country.
00:12:35.000So you heard from the Republican establishment, Mitch McConnell, talking about how it's the most important issue.
00:13:00.000So she's quoting the gospel of Matthew to make a pitch for at least, from what we can dig through in these numbers, $20 billion more going into the pockets of the defense industry.
00:13:12.000Now, again, this is causing such a draw on military stockpiles for the United States military, such as javelins, warheads, that sort of thing, that they're now having to lobby.
00:13:25.000The regime is having to lobby the defense industry to create more capacity.
00:13:34.000The White House has met with them on several occasions, the tiny group of Americans who benefit from this massive expenditure.
00:13:41.000They have met with the top U.S. defense officials, the top eight CEOs in the U.S. defense industry, all to discuss increasing capacity.
00:13:51.000Top U.S. defense officials will meet with chief executives of the eight largest U.S. defense contractors to discuss industry capacity to meet Ukraine's weapons needs if the war with Russia continues for years.
00:14:05.000So we got out of one boondoggle that lasted 20 years, an absolute neocon mistake of the Bush administration that was continued on for years and years and years.
00:14:14.000And now we are preparing for another boondoggle that will actually be more expensive in a war that is apparently not our own.
00:14:23.000And yet, Speaker Pelosi just visited Ukraine.
00:14:29.000She said, we will win this war at all costs.
00:14:33.000And then she goes and quotes the gospel of Matthew to defend it.
00:14:38.000On May 3rd, Biden visited Lockheed Martin facility and praised the plant that manufactures javelin anti-tank missiles, saying their work was critical to the Ukrainian war effort and to the defense of democracy itself.
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00:15:52.000We just got through with Ukraine, a man who has a lot of thoughts on Ukraine, I'm sure.
00:15:56.000It's Jack Bisobic, Human Events Daily.
00:15:58.000Jack, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:16:01.000Andrew, thank you so much for having me on.
00:16:03.000Jack, I sort of teased you in a false way there because we can get to Ukraine.
00:16:09.000Maybe we'll get that in segment two because I know we have to- We can talk about the America last spending bill that was just pushed forward by 70%, 70%, 149 of 211 in the House GOP voted for this thing.
00:16:23.000Well, I've got to, you know, I don't usually quote Tupac, but I might have to drop a few bars because Tupac, I think, famously said, you know, they got money for wars, but they can't feed the poor, right?
00:16:35.000And we're in that situation right now where literally I've got friends with newborns that newborns or babies, and they can't find baby formula.
00:16:48.000They're like, you got grandmoms circling, you know, hitting up targets in Walmarts across the Midwest, across Pennsylvania.
00:16:57.000We can't prevent incursions on our own southern border, but we're going to spend $40 billion of your dollars and send it overseas to a war in Eurasia where there is no American direct national interest.
00:18:02.000Nearly 40% of baby formula brands were sold out of retailers across the U.S. during starting the week of April 24th.
00:18:09.000Most Americans can't afford college because of the administrative blow because of easy money from the federal government, massive student loan debts.
00:18:17.000And now we're going to have to bail that out too.
00:18:38.000We're going to print it to send javelins to Ukraine in a war that we don't have any direct interest in.
00:18:49.000Although Nancy Pelosi, Jack, says we're going to win this war at all costs because that's what the American people apparently want.
00:18:55.000Well, I liked how she said, you know, you have to, when I was hungry, you fed me.
00:18:59.000So she's quoting the gospel of Matthew when it comes to this.
00:19:02.000Devout Catholic Nancy Pelosi quoting the gospel of Matthew, right?
00:19:07.000You know, all praise and supplication to Saint Raytheon the Blessed, by the way.
00:19:13.000Last time I checked, I want to know, you know, Secretary of Defense Austin, he came from the board of Raytheon and he told us that he wasn't going to be divesting of his stocks in Raytheon, but he was going to put it into a blind trust.
00:19:26.000Really, I'd like to know how much are you actually profiting from every single javelin that goes over?
00:19:33.000How much money goes into Lloyd Austin's pocket and the pockets of everybody else that's on the take from these defense contractors?
00:19:40.000That's like, There's that thing, I think it was a Democrat thing where they were saying, but I agree with this one actually, where they say that politicians should wear their sponsors on their jackets the same way NASCAR drivers do.
00:19:53.000So you could see, like, whenever they come up and speak, you see like Raytheon, Lockheed, Black Rock, you know.
00:20:02.000I mean, you know, it'd be one thing, Jack.
00:20:05.000I could actually stomach a lot of this if it was if they had the border locked down, if they had an immigration system that actually worked.
00:20:13.000And we, you know, this is what's so frustrating.
00:21:14.000Now, I love that you brought up the bombing of the cartels because that was the big, we actually haven't talked about it on the show this week, but it was the big controversy over the weekend that, you know, what's funny is they tried to make it a controversy until, and so they started it out and you saw that.
00:21:29.000And I know you're, you know, you study the media closer than anybody, even closer than me and Charlie, I think sometimes.
00:21:34.000People don't know that about you, Andrew.
00:21:36.000And that what they were doing with the wind up to this, you could see the classic setup.
00:21:40.000So first you see the Maggie Haberman piece in the New York Times drops.
00:22:11.000You actually had some voices on the, I would say center right, and I mean that sort of in the center, like Eric Erickson, for example, saying, actually, that's not a bad idea.
00:22:21.000You know, I mean, that was the broad consensus that we were experiencing.
00:22:25.000Jack, I honestly could rant about this for the entire segment.
00:23:07.000Well, so West Virginia, that was pretty much a clear-cut shot in that race where you had establishment versus a Trump candidate, a Trump candidate, Alex Mooney, won in spades.
00:23:18.000Nebraska, a lot of people were trying to read that as whether or not it was the Trump endorsement, was the magic sauce or whether it wasn't.
00:23:25.000And people also tried to talk about that in terms of the JD Vance victory in Ohio last week.
00:23:31.000But I would caution that when it comes to Ohio, because, and yeah, I know JD, I know Josh both very well.
00:23:38.000J.D. Vence was already a very known quantity in the state of Ohio, right?
00:23:42.000He had number one best-selling book all about the people of Ohio.
00:23:45.000He had the number one movie on Netflix with Glenn Close and Amy Adams, right?
00:23:51.000So I think the danger with some of these races is trying to view them all through the lens of the Trump endorsement when there's a lot of dynamics going on on the ground in the state that are actually also at play.
00:24:02.000I mean, voters are busy, but they're not stupid, right?
00:24:04.000And so you have the exact same thing in the state of Nebraska because you've got this huge jungle primary kind of thing going.
00:24:11.000Well, not jungle in the sense that it's top two, but just a lot of people involved.
00:24:14.000And so Pillin was the establishment candidate.
00:24:19.000Then you had Landstrom, who's more of a moderate candidate.
00:24:22.000And then the MAGA candidate was this guy, Herbster.
00:24:25.000Now, what's interesting, so Herbster loses by about six points, but the establishment up there, which is really controlled by the Ricketts machine, Governor Pete Ricketts and his family, they were, you know, the financial success behind TD Ameritrade.
00:24:39.000They went on, they endorsed Pillen, but then something very interesting happened.
00:24:42.000Herbster originally had a running mate known as Teresa Thibodeau, and she was, I believe, a state senator and then was running as his LG.
00:24:51.000Late last year, she dropped out of the race as his running mate.
00:24:56.000Then a couple of months later, comes back and says that she's running for governor, and then she exclusively campaigns.
00:26:00.000So you take out Thibodeau, it goes back.
00:26:01.000Now, of course, people always say it's dangerous to make those arguments because you don't know if those voters would have automatically associated with another candidate, et cetera.
00:26:12.000It was part of the strategy to split the MAGA vote so that an establishment candidate could win.
00:26:16.000And in this case, that's what happened.
00:26:18.000Of course, you can't talk about that race without talking about this huge scandal that erupts in the media against Herbster, women coming out, accusing him of things.
00:26:28.000It reminds a lot of people of what happened to Trump in 16, reminds a lot of people what happened to Kavanaugh when he came up.
00:26:34.000And I'm not making any judgment statement based on those.
00:26:36.000I'm just saying this is the same type of playbook that we've seen.
00:27:59.000I'm from the area that's in eastern Pennsylvania.
00:28:02.000But again, similar to Nebraska, Pennsylvania is a state with two minds where you've got eastern Pennsylvania, which is full of people who just put it this way: they do not vote how I do.
00:28:12.000They were not, that was not the part of the state that was the Trump base in 16 or 2020.
00:28:18.000That's really more Western Pennsylvania.
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00:29:53.000We're tongue-in-cheek here, folks, because Jack Pesovic has probably been the most vocal critic on the right about one of Trump's endorsements.
00:30:01.000Now, I just want to say right here and now, obviously, we love the president, President Trump.
00:30:06.000He's been on the show multiple times, he's friends with Charlie.
00:30:10.000I'm not denigrating the president here, but Jack, you have some pretty strong episodes.
00:30:15.000So, this is what puts me in a weird situation because I was a day one Trump supporter even before the elevator, right?
00:30:23.000You know, I remember, I remember being at CPAC in 2011 when Trump spoke on stage and saying, Man, I wish this guy was running instead of Romney, right?
00:30:33.000That's that's the guy that I want to see as president.
00:30:35.000So, I was a Trump supporter like way even before the campaign.
00:30:39.000And then, when Oz got into the race after Sean Parnell dropped, I immediately said no to this.
00:30:45.000I was, so I was an Oz opponent months before any endorsements came down.
00:30:51.000And so, when the endorsement came down, I would been going through Oz's record and we were looking at his TV show.
00:30:56.000And this guy, I mean, he's an Oprah Winfrey liberal, right?
00:31:01.000He's got transgender kids episodes, he's got red flag episodes, you know, all sorts of the stuff that's that's 1,600 episodes and never said one conservative thing in his life.
00:31:10.000And so, when the endorsement came down, I basically said, Look, I'm not going to change my position on this just because something shifted in the dynamics.
00:31:58.000Well, now he comes out and says that he's, I'm pro-life, I'm pro-life from the moment of conception.
00:32:02.000He's saying he's saying it's like he read a book on what a conservative candidate is supposed to say, and he's just repeating all those lines, even though it's the exact opposite of everything that he espoused throughout his entire public life for you know, going back 20 years.
00:32:16.000And you know, I may not talk about it every day, I may not always get into it because it's not always in the news.
00:32:22.000But I like, just to be very clear about something, uh, as a Christian, for me, being pro-life is not, that's not one of those issues that I can really equivocate on, right?
00:32:31.000That's not really something where I'm willing to, you know, accept the halfway thing with someone saying, oh, you know, up to nine months is fine and Roe v. Wade.
00:32:40.000No, like, I can't, I can't meet you halfway there.
00:32:57.000When you go through the process of having a child, it changes you fundamentally.
00:33:02.000When you go in for that first ultrasound and you see the heartbeating, and you, you, I still have uh, I still have the MP3 recorded of my son in T2 the first time he heard it.
00:33:15.000And so, I agree, we can't equivocate on it.
00:33:18.000You know, that being said, Trump himself kind of had his own transformation over his political career or his public career.
00:33:27.000And, but, but here's the here's the difference: you've got a guy in Trump who put three justices on the Supreme Court that are about to overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:33:38.000That's when people make that argument.
00:33:39.000I've heard so many arguments about why he should be for Oz, and they bring this one up.
00:33:42.000Trump did the work for years of coming into the Tea Party movement, coming into the conservative movement, speaking at CPAC, doing you know, making the rounds, explaining to people that he was shifting on a lot of different things that he had, you know, may have said in his Playboy days.
00:33:57.000And it was a much more reasonable and natural understanding that he was going to be the pro, the greatest pro-life president that we've ever had, which he was, by the way.
00:34:08.000Um, only one to speak about the March for Life, too.
00:34:11.000Yeah, he's only one who's ever spoken about the March for Life.
00:34:13.000And Oz just changes the day he decides to run for office.
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