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00:01:28.000So it says basically this: which is that back in 2016, about 36% of young people were Republican, and about 55% would identify as Democrat.
00:01:39.000And now in the last four years, 60% of America's young people are Democrat and 36% are Republican.
00:01:47.000And the Axios piece goes through to say that there is a generational issue happening with young people and with the potential issues that Republicans have to face.
00:02:02.000Also shows another graph that shows that U.S. presidential election turnout among voters 18 through 29 has skyrocketed.
00:02:09.000And obviously it skyrocketed in 2020 because the Center for Technology and Civic Life and all of the propagandists used the mail-in balloting scheme to artificially boost voter turnout to their preferred and to their, let's say, advantageous political groups, political demographics and political voting groups.
00:02:32.000So now about 53% of voters 18 to 29 vote.
00:02:37.000Now we go through a lot of these sort of different studies.
00:02:42.000Being 28 years old, there is kind of a generational bridge I think that needs to kind of be built at times.
00:02:50.000It says here, John Della Volpe, polling director at Harvard Kennedy Institute of Politics, says, quote, generational replacement will not be kind to Trump's Republican Party.
00:03:02.000Della Volpe will be out tomorrow with quote fight, how Generation Z is channeling their fear and passion to save America, digging into the mindset of the 70 million young Americans born beginning in the mid-1990s.
00:03:33.000Obviously, they're the most stupid generation in American history because they all went to college, obviously.
00:03:39.000And this will really be the defining mark that their parents left on society, which is a generation of well-meaning parents sent their kids, sent their bloodline, sent their future generation, whatever you want to call it, to college, their legacy.
00:03:57.000Thank you, Andrew, to college, and basically they're declaring war on the previous generation's values.
00:04:22.000And so the article says that there are five events that shaped this rising block.
00:04:28.000By the way, I think Axios did a pretty good job of keeping this fact-based.
00:04:31.000I don't think they were, at times they could be a little on edge, but I think they were fine.
00:04:36.000And so they say there were five events that shaped this rising block.
00:04:41.000I think most of this, I think three or four of these things are nonsense.
00:04:44.000I think one or two is actually pretty smart.
00:04:46.000Number one, they say Occupy Wall Street started millennial-led discussions about inequality and became political drivers as Zoomers came of age.
00:04:56.000I don't know one generation Zero that even remembers Occupy Wall Street.
00:04:59.000I don't think it's that powerful at all.
00:05:22.000And was used as an intentional propaganda piece as far as trying to misconstrue.
00:05:27.000I'm not saying the actual event was propaganda.
00:05:30.000I'm saying what followed afterwards was pure and total propaganda of trying to say that we live in a systemically racist country and the police are hunting black people in the streets.
00:05:39.000And then Greta Thunberg's climate strike.
00:06:32.000Certain events turn you into a conservative.
00:06:37.000When you get married, when you have children, and when you purchase a home, basically marriage kids mortgage, marriage kids mortgage, you inherently become more conservative.
00:06:53.000But every single cultural and political push by the American left from college to high school through corporate America is to try to discourage young people from getting married, trying to make it so expensive so you cannot have children, and try to price you out of the American housing market.
00:07:20.000I'm not shocked because Republicans, too busy serving their own internationalist corporate profit-seeking self-interest, never looking at protecting their legacy to be able to do the three things that were a guarantee and a promise of 1980s America.
00:07:38.000Get married, have children, and purchase a home.
00:07:42.000It is the least married generation in American history.
00:08:02.000American Christian University says that 40% of young people are gay or transgender or bisexual.
00:08:10.000It is the lowest birth rate that we have seen in a generation, least amount of children being born, because children are considered to be an environmental hazard.
00:08:35.000So when you inflate your currency and you create money out of thin air and you pump it into a system, people that own assets are going to do very well.
00:08:47.000So let's take producer Connor, for example.
00:08:49.000Producer Connor is going to be our test case.
00:08:51.000I think, did I mention this on air before?
00:09:32.000That means he has to pay $600 extra dollars a month, $7,200 a year to live in the same place that he lived last year.
00:09:39.000So in order to just tread water, in order for Connor just to stay the same, he has to earn an extra $600 a month just to break even.
00:09:48.000Whereas I have a mortgage and my mortgage rate is fixed and that doesn't go up.
00:09:57.000So I borrowed, and mortgages can make a lot of sense, makes you really conservative, money, and therefore I become, I'm fit in, and it doesn't change.
00:10:07.000Mortgage payments, you could have a fixed rate.
00:10:09.000You could have a floating rate, but most are fixed.
00:12:09.000I would love for their status to change, but a whole bunch of men do not have the same goals, lack ambition, and are looking for either A, someone to support them in every sense of the world, or B, a good time, no more.
00:13:09.000And they talked at length about America's electoral future, the coming generational transformation.
00:13:16.000It says demographics are not destiny, but steady and predictable changes to the electorate play an important role in defining the landscape of American politics.
00:13:24.000And it talks about here that homeownership is going down, that having children is going down, and marriage rates are going down.
00:13:33.000That inherently creates a more left-wing society or a more democrat society or a socialistic society.
00:13:44.000When you have 33-year-old women with college degrees and they're 33 years old and they don't have children and they're not married, what do you expect when all of a sudden there is a political party that comes out and says we can reappropriate the money, we can redistribute the money, I should say.
00:14:22.000And Connor knows this, and Andrew knows this, and our whole team knows this, because we see what's happening in real time, and it's going to be a lagging effect.
00:14:29.000Republicans just really, they don't get it.
00:14:32.000They're like, oh, yeah, all we have to do is talk about jobs, opportunity, and tax cuts.
00:14:36.000Like, actually, no, it's more than that.
00:14:38.000If you cannot check the three boxes, then those events will not occur, and you will not have a generation of conservatives.
00:14:46.000You'll have a generation of collectivists.
00:15:39.000Also, we've decided to create $5 trillion that we didn't have.
00:15:42.000Producer Andrew's home is up 100% in the last two years.
00:15:47.000And so, yeah, that's going to be really appealing.
00:15:49.000There is an economic revolution that's about to happen.
00:15:51.000If the left actually gets their act together, if the left and the collectivists actually stop running on racist identity politics and they actually talk about pure economics, that's going to be really hard for those of us like, oh, no, no, actually, markets are great.
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00:19:01.000You might say, Well, Charlie, I don't know a competitor.
00:19:26.000I decided to re-listen to a great book that I read a while back and for a variety of different reasons, The Diversity Delusion by Heather McDonald.
00:19:36.000I like listening to books when you work out or when you're traveling or whatever, and it's a really good book.
00:19:40.000And then I texted Andrew, I said, Let's have Heather on the show.
00:19:42.000So we haven't, we haven't had a chance to catch up for a while.
00:19:45.000So with us right now is Heather McDonald, author of several books, the one that I'm currently re-enjoying, Diversity Delusion.
00:19:52.000Heather, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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00:20:18.000So Heather, I want to ask you about this study from Axios that I'd love to get your commentary on it.
00:20:23.000The essence is that it shows that young people are going far to the left and they're not basically staying and they're not conservative as conservative as prior generations.
00:20:43.000Well, it's a combination of overt ideology and prosperity.
00:20:49.000You know, decades, decades, decades in America of stable society, limited government, extraordinary conquest of poverty, want, disease, premature death.
00:21:04.000And young people have absolutely no idea what the West has accomplished to make their lives so cushy and so opportunity-filled.
00:21:16.000But then, of course, that's the background and the more overt politization is coming from the elite classes in the education establishment and that are dedicated to tearing down the West that are filled with anti-white hatred.
00:21:32.000They hate a civilization being too white and male.
00:21:35.000And there are very few competing voices.
00:21:38.000The establishment, you know, in the 50s, the establishment used to be viewed as conservative.
00:21:45.000The American Bar Association, the American Medical Association, these institutions were regarded as guardians of traditional bourgeois norms, respect for property, respect for the rule of law.
00:22:00.000And now they are almost indistinguishable from Brown University or Yale University or Harvard in their dedication to this phony ideology that says that white supremacy and white racism is the defining characteristic of American society.
00:22:17.000So you bring up a really interesting point, which is that the institutions have been captured by this revolutionary fervor, which is really at odds with what it really means to be an institution, right?
00:22:29.000An institution, by definition, has to be conservative because you're trying to conserve something.
00:22:40.000It's an unprecedented moment in human history.
00:22:43.000There has never been a time when a culture's elites turn on themselves with such vitriol and hatred.
00:22:51.000The Chinese cultural revolution was by and large the masses turning on the elites.
00:22:58.000And you had university professors being hounded into work camps, their knowledge being diminished and demeaned as simply a capitalist, unnecessary appendage.
00:23:14.000But now you have the elites declaring that that which gives them power and security is itself violent and vicious and not worthy of any respect.
00:23:25.000I don't know how you raise young people to hate their inheritance.
00:23:31.000And it's not as if we represent, say, take out one single slice of, say, Germany, you know, for several decades.
00:23:40.000would be a lot to be rejecting in that, but we have centuries of development in the West that are unique, not shared in any other culture that gave us individual rights.
00:23:56.000My audible listening right now, Charlie, is a historical novel about the 1956 Hungarian Revolution against communist rule.
00:24:05.000And I think that every freshman reading in college today should not be obviously it should not be Ibrahim Kendi.
00:24:12.000I mean that goes without saying, but here's what it should be, is some account of communist totalitarianism, because we are completely ignorant about the terrors of an uncontrolled state, of uncontrolled state power.
00:24:28.000We have at the same time elites that hate themselves, and yet we do have, as you have warned so often, Charlie, we are marching towards what does look like a totalitarian thought control.
00:24:41.000And the question is, do we have enough safeguards in our inherent character to guard against this?
00:24:49.000I think that question remains unanswered.
00:24:52.000And you notice in how they talk about the divisions in America, they have removed the class warfare and it's all about race and gender.
00:25:01.000I found that to be really interesting.
00:25:03.000I heard Victor Davis Hansen say this recently and he just kind of brushed over it because he corrected himself because he kind of had this talking point that he used maybe a decade ago.
00:25:12.000And I caught it because I listened to him a lot because he's super smart.
00:25:15.000And he says, you know, the Obamas, they always talk about race, class, gender.
00:25:18.000He says, well, not really class anymore.
00:25:21.000I thought to myself, that's interesting.
00:25:22.000They've kind of removed that altogether.
00:25:25.000And in your book, Diversity Delusion, you really, you build this out where the focus on diversity is really kind of this like fake outrage that allows the kleptocrats to go untouched, that allows the crony capitalists to continue their plunder, that they, that the ruling class has almost accepted this diversity regime.
00:25:47.000Can you help explain that or walk our audience through that?
00:25:52.000Well, everybody that imposes racial preferences on his institution believes that they're not coming after him and that he will retain his position, even as he is making sure that the most qualified candidate is not hired.
00:26:06.000And instead, we hire either less qualified females, and that's happening all over the place.
00:26:12.000It's happening in STEM ubiquitously, or underqualified minorities, Blacks and Hispanics.
00:26:18.000Asians don't count as people of color when it comes to meritocratic hiring.
00:26:23.000So they do think that they're going to be safe, but they're willing to sacrifice the caliber of American competitiveness of institutions.
00:26:54.000And there are many minority doctors who are qualified, but there are many more who are being promoted simply on the basis of race.
00:27:01.000So the elites think that they'll hold on to the positions, but I would also add it's more, it's about more, Charlie, I think, than protecting the kleptocracy.
00:27:10.000And I'm not going to take a pure Marxist anti big government line because I do think that there is still value in competition and the extent we still have free markets.
00:27:24.000What is also going on here in this culture is the obsession with anti-racism and the problem of disparate impact.
00:27:34.000The fact is, is that there's not a single meritocratic standard or behavioral standard that does not have a disparate impact on blacks.
00:27:43.000That's why we're tearing down gifted and talented education, why we're tearing down calculus and algebra in the California school, high school system, why we're tearing down standards in STEM.
00:27:57.000And you have the head of the National Institute of Health, Francis Collins, demanding that his neurology project hire on the basis of race, which is appalling.
00:28:09.000And it's also why we're tearing down the law enforcement system, because there's not a single criminal law that doesn't have, if you enforce it, a disparate impact on Blacks.
00:28:18.000And our elites have decided that we would rather get rid of meritocratic and behavioral standards than look at the root causes of disparate impact, which is a vast academic skills gap and a vast behavioral crime commission gap.
00:28:35.000And when you get rid of those standards, of course, you're hurting primary, in the first place, those millions of law-abiding blacks who deserve protection from street crime.
00:28:48.000But this tearing down of standards, which is happening in every institution, it is all coming down.
00:28:55.000As long as the left controls the narrative and as long as the only allowable explanation for racial disparities is bias, it is all coming down, Charlie.
00:29:07.000And we are looking towards a future that is chaotic, that we cannot count on competence in our institutions, whether they're legal institutions, the federal bench, medical institutions, corporate bureaucracies.
00:29:23.000This is a very, very dangerous moment.
00:29:26.000I mean, the people on the Upper East Side who have the, they participate in the anti-racism chants and they give money.
00:29:33.000I guarantee you that when their ideology actually gets challenged and they get diagnosed with COVID and they need monoclonal antibodies and they have to go to some doctor that says, oh, yeah, actually, by the way, your melanin content isn't exactly up to standards.
00:29:49.000So you're going to have to go to the back of the line.
00:29:52.000Is there going to be a moment where the white elites themselves that are pushing this crap actually have to suffer under their own diversity regime?
00:30:12.000It's very uncomfortable for whites to hear this, but it is a warrant whites.
00:30:16.000And I hope that the elites finally start to suffer for it and that their kids don't get into Harvard despite their millions of donations over the years to try and ensure just that.
00:30:29.000They always want carve outs for their own preferences.
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00:31:52.000And I notice how you say how race and gender and not class, which is, you know, obviously where they're focusing right now.
00:31:59.000How do you anticipate the kind of alphabet mafia, the gender lobby?
00:32:05.000How are they going to handle the preferences of trying to elevate women and trying to, let's say, let's diminish men with this transgender development?
00:32:25.000We have these clarifying moments when you learn who now is at the top dog in the great totem pool of victimhood.
00:32:32.000One of those clarifying moments was Europe in 2014, where there were mass sexual assaults on New Year's Day or New Year's Eve in Germany and France committed by Muslims against European women.
00:32:46.000And you would have thought that feminists would be up in arms about this because here was actually a moment of rape culture.
00:32:53.000There'd never been mass sexual assaults in Germany before.
00:32:56.000And yet the feminists were silent because multiculturalism trumps feminism.
00:33:01.000And it was taboo to say that maybe we should rethink our immigration policies.
00:33:07.000Well, who would have thought that trans trumps feminism here too?
00:33:14.000I frankly look on with utter glee to see, and I'm sorry it's cruel to the individuals that are hurt by this, but I love the fact that these feminist soccer moms who've been grooming their daughters for swimming scholarships or soccer scholarships or tennis scholarships since in college,
00:33:34.000since age five, are now seeing their daughters' chances of getting a scholarship or winning a championship pushed aside by these trans pretenders after feminists have destroyed male sports under Title IX equity rules and insisting on having equal funding for female sports that nobody attends and goes to.
00:34:01.000So, you know, it's very, very bizarre.
00:34:04.000And I would think that any feminist would simply be able to say, I'm sorry, you are a male and it is ridiculous to have a male competing with a female on a track field or in a swimming lane.
00:34:19.000But somehow, if I was a really radical feminist, what you would say was, well, that figures because males dominate.
00:34:28.000And even when they're in the guise of females, that's just what we'd expect of males to try and destroy female success.
00:34:37.000That would be a consistent explanation, but instead we have no explanation.
00:34:41.000So I'm sitting on the sidelines and cheering it on.
00:34:49.000You mentioned this theme on our show, which is this matters more than that, which is reorganizing the hierarchy of left-wing victim groups or what we call the oppression Olympics.
00:34:59.000It's been really interesting how the push for the mandatory vaccine mattered more than black lives, right?
00:35:05.000Even black athletes and black activists were suppressed in the push for the mandatory vaccine.
00:35:10.000So that was almost like social control matters more than black liberation, which was interesting.
00:35:14.000And you see that with the transgender issue as well, right?
00:35:17.000When Dave Chappelle came against the trans lobby, they said he's being transphobic, but I thought that you get the I Could Say Whatever I Want card as a Black comedian, right?
00:35:36.000Don't be scared of being called a racist or a sexist.
00:35:40.000If you believe that you see the truth about human existence, about differences between males and females, about the fact that it is not racist to have expectations of respecting property, don't steal.
00:35:54.000And you think you're going to be called a racist for supporting law and order, for supporting reality, you've got to be strong.
00:36:02.000And if you wait out the Twitter mob, I think they will go away with their tail behind their legs.
00:36:07.000But if you live a life where you capitulate to these lies, and we all do that, we are moving either to a totalitarian state or to something that we haven't even seen before in human history.