The Charlie Kirk Show - Unraveling a Generational Descent into Chaos with Heather Mac Donald

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Heather McDonald joins this show and we go through a study of why are so many young people going to the left.

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00:01:22.000 I want to get to a story here from Axios.

00:01:25.000 America's youth turn left.

00:01:28.000 So it says basically this: which is that back in 2016, about 36% of young people were Republican, and about 55% would identify as Democrat.

00:01:39.000 And now in the last four years, 60% of America's young people are Democrat and 36% are Republican.

00:01:47.000 And the Axios piece goes through to say that there is a generational issue happening with young people and with the potential issues that Republicans have to face.

00:02:02.000 Also shows another graph that shows that U.S. presidential election turnout among voters 18 through 29 has skyrocketed.

00:02:09.000 And obviously it skyrocketed in 2020 because the Center for Technology and Civic Life and all of the propagandists used the mail-in balloting scheme to artificially boost voter turnout to their preferred and to their, let's say, advantageous political groups, political demographics and political voting groups.

00:02:32.000 So now about 53% of voters 18 to 29 vote.

00:02:37.000 Now we go through a lot of these sort of different studies.

00:02:40.000 I find them interesting.

00:02:42.000 Being 28 years old, there is kind of a generational bridge I think that needs to kind of be built at times.

00:02:50.000 It says here, John Della Volpe, polling director at Harvard Kennedy Institute of Politics, says, quote, generational replacement will not be kind to Trump's Republican Party.

00:03:02.000 Della Volpe will be out tomorrow with quote fight, how Generation Z is channeling their fear and passion to save America, digging into the mindset of the 70 million young Americans born beginning in the mid-1990s.

00:03:17.000 That's basically me, isn't it?

00:03:18.000 I'm 1993.

00:03:19.000 It's very close.

00:03:20.000 I'm right on the edge.

00:03:23.000 And then this gives it all away.

00:03:25.000 Della Volpe says, quote, they are the most diverse and most educated generation in history.

00:03:31.000 Okay, who cares about the diverse thing? 0.99

00:03:33.000 Educated. 1.00

00:03:33.000 Obviously, they're the most stupid generation in American history because they all went to college, obviously. 1.00

00:03:39.000 And this will really be the defining mark that their parents left on society, which is a generation of well-meaning parents sent their kids, sent their bloodline, sent their future generation, whatever you want to call it, to college, their legacy. 1.00

00:03:57.000 Thank you, Andrew, to college, and basically they're declaring war on the previous generation's values.

00:04:08.000 But this is no mistake.

00:04:10.000 This is all by design.

00:04:13.000 So life is a series of events.

00:04:16.000 In fact, the article even acknowledges that.

00:04:18.000 Here it is.

00:04:19.000 Life is a series of events.

00:04:22.000 And so the article says that there are five events that shaped this rising block.

00:04:28.000 By the way, I think Axios did a pretty good job of keeping this fact-based.

00:04:31.000 I don't think they were, at times they could be a little on edge, but I think they were fine.

00:04:36.000 And so they say there were five events that shaped this rising block.

00:04:41.000 I think most of this, I think three or four of these things are nonsense.

00:04:44.000 I think one or two is actually pretty smart.

00:04:46.000 Number one, they say Occupy Wall Street started millennial-led discussions about inequality and became political drivers as Zoomers came of age. 0.99

00:04:56.000 I don't know one generation Zero that even remembers Occupy Wall Street. 0.78

00:04:59.000 I don't think it's that powerful at all.

00:05:01.000 So I'm going to X that up.

00:05:02.000 Number two, Donald Trump.

00:05:03.000 I do agree with that.

00:05:05.000 I think that the propaganda and the nonsense around Donald Trump had a major impact on a lot of young people.

00:05:11.000 I agree.

00:05:11.000 Parkland, Florida high school shooting?

00:05:13.000 I don't think so.

00:05:14.000 No.

00:05:14.000 17-year-old Darnella Frazier's use of iPhone to record the murder of George Floyd.

00:05:19.000 Yep.

00:05:20.000 I think that's super powerful.

00:05:22.000 And was used as an intentional propaganda piece as far as trying to misconstrue.

00:05:27.000 I'm not saying the actual event was propaganda.

00:05:30.000 I'm saying what followed afterwards was pure and total propaganda of trying to say that we live in a systemically racist country and the police are hunting black people in the streets.

00:05:39.000 And then Greta Thunberg's climate strike. 1.00

00:05:41.000 I don't think so.

00:05:42.000 I think generally the environmentalist movement can play to it.

00:05:44.000 But Donald Trump and George Floyd definitely, I think, played a role in this.

00:05:48.000 But the series, events play serious roles in shaping of who you are.

00:05:54.000 But there are three events in particular that college does not prepare you for.

00:06:01.000 There are three events that college wants you to avoid.

00:06:04.000 There are three events that most parents are surprised and shocked and stunned that their kids actually don't engage in.

00:06:11.000 And that is getting married, having children, and buying a home.

00:06:17.000 Those three things are what could be called as conservatizing events.

00:06:23.000 We just made up that word, right, Connor?

00:06:25.000 It actually could be a word.

00:06:27.000 There's liberalizing, so why isn't there conservatizing, right?

00:06:31.000 What do I mean by that?

00:06:32.000 Certain events turn you into a conservative.

00:06:37.000 When you get married, when you have children, and when you purchase a home, basically marriage kids mortgage, marriage kids mortgage, you inherently become more conservative.

00:06:53.000 But every single cultural and political push by the American left from college to high school through corporate America is to try to discourage young people from getting married, trying to make it so expensive so you cannot have children, and try to price you out of the American housing market.

00:07:17.000 I am not shocked at this poll.

00:07:20.000 I'm not shocked because Republicans, too busy serving their own internationalist corporate profit-seeking self-interest, never looking at protecting their legacy to be able to do the three things that were a guarantee and a promise of 1980s America.

00:07:38.000 Get married, have children, and purchase a home.

00:07:42.000 It is the least married generation in American history.

00:07:46.000 Why?

00:07:46.000 A couple of reasons.

00:07:47.000 Number one, so many kids went to college where marriage is considered to be a colonialist construct or a misogynistic construct.

00:07:57.000 It's also the gayest generation in American history. 0.70

00:07:59.000 I don't say that as a pejorative.

00:08:00.000 It's just, it's just the way it is.

00:08:02.000 American Christian University says that 40% of young people are gay or transgender or bisexual.

00:08:10.000 It is the lowest birth rate that we have seen in a generation, least amount of children being born, because children are considered to be an environmental hazard.

00:08:19.000 I'm not kidding.

00:08:21.000 That's a real thing that is believed amongst many young people.

00:08:26.000 And children are really expensive.

00:08:28.000 And we've made it harder and financially more difficult to actually have children.

00:08:33.000 And then a mortgage.

00:08:35.000 So when you inflate your currency and you create money out of thin air and you pump it into a system, people that own assets are going to do very well.

00:08:47.000 So let's take producer Connor, for example.

00:08:49.000 Producer Connor is going to be our test case.

00:08:51.000 I think, did I mention this on air before?

00:08:53.000 Maybe I did.

00:08:54.000 So producer Connor got poorer this last year.

00:09:00.000 Now he's going to use this as an advocating for a raise, but I'll bring that.

00:09:04.000 That's a separate conversation.

00:09:05.000 How did producer Connor get poorer?

00:09:06.000 Producer Connor, what, your mid-20s, right?

00:09:09.000 Mid-20s, works hard, gets in early, does a great job.

00:09:12.000 So he's right there.

00:09:12.000 He's 25.

00:09:14.000 He is right on the chart.

00:09:18.000 Andrew says we actually gave him a raise.

00:09:20.000 Okay, it was an inflation-adjusted raise.

00:09:21.000 But here's what's important.

00:09:22.000 Listen, producer Connor got poorer.

00:09:26.000 His rent went up by $600 a month.

00:09:29.000 Is that correct, Connor?

00:09:30.000 $600 a month.

00:09:32.000 That means he has to pay $600 extra dollars a month, $7,200 a year to live in the same place that he lived last year.

00:09:39.000 So in order to just tread water, in order for Connor just to stay the same, he has to earn an extra $600 a month just to break even.

00:09:48.000 Whereas I have a mortgage and my mortgage rate is fixed and that doesn't go up.

00:09:57.000 So I borrowed, and mortgages can make a lot of sense, makes you really conservative, money, and therefore I become, I'm fit in, and it doesn't change.

00:10:07.000 Mortgage payments, you could have a fixed rate.

00:10:09.000 You could have a floating rate, but most are fixed.

00:10:11.000 I actually am getting richer.

00:10:14.000 The value of my home goes up.

00:10:17.000 My payment stays the same, which actually goes down because the currency is inflated.

00:10:20.000 So Connor, the renter, gets poorer.

00:10:23.000 Charlie, the owner, gets richer.

00:10:26.000 I'm not trying to rub it in your face, Connor.

00:10:27.000 I'm just using you as an example.

00:10:28.000 It's true.

00:10:29.000 Your rulers betrayed you.

00:10:32.000 And if Connor wasn't an enlightened fellow, he'd be a left-wing Democrat.

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00:11:49.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:11:50.000 I have two girls, aged 27 and 30, living in California.

00:11:53.000 I can attest to the fact that the supply of quality, eligible men is in short supply.

00:11:58.000 Not for the lack of offers.

00:12:00.000 My girls are not married, but sure would like to be married with kids, MWK. 1.00

00:12:07.000 Is that what that means?

00:12:07.000 Never seen that acronym before.

00:12:09.000 I would love for their status to change, but a whole bunch of men do not have the same goals, lack ambition, and are looking for either A, someone to support them in every sense of the world, or B, a good time, no more.

00:12:18.000 I see that a lot.

00:12:19.000 I see the feminization of the American male where the woman, the female, has to basically babysit the man. 0.90

00:12:26.000 You've seen this, Connor?

00:12:28.000 And it creates super unhappy women. 1.00

00:12:30.000 And also, women have to become masculine. 1.00

00:12:32.000 That's what college does: it creates, basically tells these women, you should go succeed in the corporate world. 1.00

00:12:37.000 And in order to do so, you have to become super masculine, which also means you're going to become miserable.

00:12:42.000 I mean, just the way it is.

00:12:43.000 And some women, you know, end up liking it. 1.00

00:12:46.000 Most women don't, honestly. 1.00

00:12:47.000 And the entire kind of trajectory that we have is one that unfortunately instills weakness in men and unhappiness in women.

00:13:03.000 So the Brookings Institution actually wrote about this.

00:13:06.000 They're a left-wing think tank.

00:13:09.000 And they talked at length about America's electoral future, the coming generational transformation.

00:13:16.000 It says demographics are not destiny, but steady and predictable changes to the electorate play an important role in defining the landscape of American politics.

00:13:24.000 And it talks about here that homeownership is going down, that having children is going down, and marriage rates are going down.

00:13:33.000 That inherently creates a more left-wing society or a more democrat society or a socialistic society.

00:13:44.000 When you have 33-year-old women with college degrees and they're 33 years old and they don't have children and they're not married, what do you expect when all of a sudden there is a political party that comes out and says we can reappropriate the money, we can redistribute the money, I should say. 0.57

00:14:12.000 It's rather appealing.

00:14:13.000 And this is something I think Republicans get wrong.

00:14:15.000 And I've said this in many different meetings with Republican politicians, and I don't think it really resonates with them.

00:14:20.000 But we will be proven right.

00:14:22.000 And Connor knows this, and Andrew knows this, and our whole team knows this, because we see what's happening in real time, and it's going to be a lagging effect.

00:14:29.000 Republicans just really, they don't get it.

00:14:32.000 They're like, oh, yeah, all we have to do is talk about jobs, opportunity, and tax cuts.

00:14:36.000 Like, actually, no, it's more than that.

00:14:38.000 If you cannot check the three boxes, then those events will not occur, and you will not have a generation of conservatives.

00:14:46.000 You'll have a generation of collectivists.

00:14:48.000 You need to make it easier.

00:14:49.000 In fact, conservatives should talk openly about the three boxes and why we want you to be able to achieve these three basic things.

00:14:58.000 We want you to get married.

00:15:00.000 We want you to have children.

00:15:01.000 And we want you to own property.

00:15:05.000 Those three things.

00:15:07.000 We want you to get married.

00:15:09.000 We want you to be able to have children.

00:15:11.000 We want you to own property.

00:15:13.000 And so a lot of young people, including people we work with, they say, I wish I could buy a home.

00:15:16.000 I've been priced out of the housing market.

00:15:20.000 That's a definition of getting poorer.

00:15:22.000 Have you seen house prices, especially in Phoenix?

00:15:24.000 They're up 30, 40, 50% year over year.

00:15:27.000 I bought my place with a mortgage, what, about a year ago?

00:15:32.000 It's up 75% in value.

00:15:35.000 75%.

00:15:38.000 That's a good housing market.

00:15:39.000 Also, we've decided to create $5 trillion that we didn't have.

00:15:42.000 Producer Andrew's home is up 100% in the last two years.

00:15:47.000 And so, yeah, that's going to be really appealing.

00:15:49.000 There is an economic revolution that's about to happen.

00:15:51.000 If the left actually gets their act together, if the left and the collectivists actually stop running on racist identity politics and they actually talk about pure economics, that's going to be really hard for those of us like, oh, no, no, actually, markets are great.

00:16:07.000 And you know what?

00:16:07.000 A young person will say, oh, really?

00:16:09.000 We're fatter, sicker, more suicidal, more alcohol-addicted, more drug overdose than ever before.

00:16:13.000 We're addicted to our screens.

00:16:15.000 We're unhappy.

00:16:16.000 We hate each other.

00:16:16.000 We hate ourselves.

00:16:17.000 What exactly about markets is so great?

00:16:19.000 And the counter argument is not exactly going to resonate with them.

00:16:23.000 Instead, conservatives should preempt this and say, hey, we want to restore things that matter in your life.

00:16:29.000 You've been scammed to go to college or study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist.

00:16:33.000 To borrow money, you don't have to do that.

00:16:36.000 And we want to empower you to be able to check the three boxes so that you could have an invested interest.

00:16:42.000 What is a conservative?

00:16:44.000 You want to protect things.

00:16:45.000 Well, if you have nothing worth protecting, then why wouldn't you be a collectivist?

00:16:50.000 You want to protect your family?

00:16:51.000 You want to protect your marriage?

00:16:52.000 You want to protect your home.

00:16:53.000 You don't have those three things.

00:16:55.000 Sure.

00:16:56.000 Let's go burn a Wendy's and do a hunger strike over the environment and put your fist in the air against racism.

00:17:04.000 At least that gives you purpose.

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00:19:26.000 I decided to re-listen to a great book that I read a while back and for a variety of different reasons, The Diversity Delusion by Heather McDonald.

00:19:36.000 I like listening to books when you work out or when you're traveling or whatever, and it's a really good book.

00:19:40.000 And then I texted Andrew, I said, Let's have Heather on the show. 1.00

00:19:42.000 So we haven't, we haven't had a chance to catch up for a while.

00:19:45.000 So with us right now is Heather McDonald, author of several books, the one that I'm currently re-enjoying, Diversity Delusion.

00:19:52.000 Heather, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:19:54.000 Well, thank you so much.

00:19:56.000 And I know you've got so many things to read and listen to.

00:19:58.000 So I'm absolutely honored, Charlie, that you're giving back into the book.

00:20:02.000 And I adore Audible Books myself.

00:20:04.000 It takes you into a better world, I think, often.

00:20:08.000 I totally agree.

00:20:09.000 My only regret is that you didn't narrate the whole book, but I don't narrate mine.

00:20:15.000 It just takes a lot of time.

00:20:16.000 You have to take two full days and it's a lot of work.

00:20:18.000 So Heather, I want to ask you about this study from Axios that I'd love to get your commentary on it.

00:20:23.000 The essence is that it shows that young people are going far to the left and they're not basically staying and they're not conservative as conservative as prior generations.

00:20:34.000 What would you attribute this to?

00:20:35.000 You talk about this a lot in the diversity delusion.

00:20:38.000 You talk about the several dynamics that come into play.

00:20:41.000 How would you explain this?

00:20:43.000 Well, it's a combination of overt ideology and prosperity.

00:20:49.000 You know, decades, decades, decades in America of stable society, limited government, extraordinary conquest of poverty, want, disease, premature death.

00:21:04.000 And young people have absolutely no idea what the West has accomplished to make their lives so cushy and so opportunity-filled.

00:21:16.000 But then, of course, that's the background and the more overt politization is coming from the elite classes in the education establishment and that are dedicated to tearing down the West that are filled with anti-white hatred. 0.96

00:21:32.000 They hate a civilization being too white and male. 0.96

00:21:35.000 And there are very few competing voices. 0.73

00:21:38.000 The establishment, you know, in the 50s, the establishment used to be viewed as conservative.

00:21:44.000 And indeed, it often was.

00:21:45.000 The American Bar Association, the American Medical Association, these institutions were regarded as guardians of traditional bourgeois norms, respect for property, respect for the rule of law.

00:22:00.000 And now they are almost indistinguishable from Brown University or Yale University or Harvard in their dedication to this phony ideology that says that white supremacy and white racism is the defining characteristic of American society.

00:22:17.000 So you bring up a really interesting point, which is that the institutions have been captured by this revolutionary fervor, which is really at odds with what it really means to be an institution, right?

00:22:29.000 An institution, by definition, has to be conservative because you're trying to conserve something.

00:22:35.000 Talk a little bit about that.

00:22:36.000 I find that to be super interesting.

00:22:38.000 And is it sustainable?

00:22:40.000 It's an unprecedented moment in human history.

00:22:43.000 There has never been a time when a culture's elites turn on themselves with such vitriol and hatred.

00:22:51.000 The Chinese cultural revolution was by and large the masses turning on the elites.

00:22:58.000 And you had university professors being hounded into work camps, their knowledge being diminished and demeaned as simply a capitalist, unnecessary appendage.

00:23:14.000 But now you have the elites declaring that that which gives them power and security is itself violent and vicious and not worthy of any respect.

00:23:25.000 I don't know how you raise young people to hate their inheritance.

00:23:31.000 And it's not as if we represent, say, take out one single slice of, say, Germany, you know, for several decades.

00:23:40.000 would be a lot to be rejecting in that, but we have centuries of development in the West that are unique, not shared in any other culture that gave us individual rights.

00:23:56.000 My audible listening right now, Charlie, is a historical novel about the 1956 Hungarian Revolution against communist rule.

00:24:05.000 And I think that every freshman reading in college today should not be obviously it should not be Ibrahim Kendi.

00:24:12.000 I mean that goes without saying, but here's what it should be, is some account of communist totalitarianism, because we are completely ignorant about the terrors of an uncontrolled state, of uncontrolled state power.

00:24:28.000 We have at the same time elites that hate themselves, and yet we do have, as you have warned so often, Charlie, we are marching towards what does look like a totalitarian thought control.

00:24:41.000 And the question is, do we have enough safeguards in our inherent character to guard against this?

00:24:48.000 I don't know.

00:24:49.000 I think that question remains unanswered.

00:24:52.000 And you notice in how they talk about the divisions in America, they have removed the class warfare and it's all about race and gender.

00:25:01.000 I found that to be really interesting.

00:25:03.000 I heard Victor Davis Hansen say this recently and he just kind of brushed over it because he corrected himself because he kind of had this talking point that he used maybe a decade ago.

00:25:12.000 And I caught it because I listened to him a lot because he's super smart.

00:25:15.000 And he says, you know, the Obamas, they always talk about race, class, gender.

00:25:18.000 He says, well, not really class anymore.

00:25:20.000 And then he moved on.

00:25:21.000 I thought to myself, that's interesting.

00:25:22.000 They've kind of removed that altogether.

00:25:25.000 And in your book, Diversity Delusion, you really, you build this out where the focus on diversity is really kind of this like fake outrage that allows the kleptocrats to go untouched, that allows the crony capitalists to continue their plunder, that they, that the ruling class has almost accepted this diversity regime.

00:25:47.000 Can you help explain that or walk our audience through that?

00:25:49.000 I find that to be really important.

00:25:52.000 Well, everybody that imposes racial preferences on his institution believes that they're not coming after him and that he will retain his position, even as he is making sure that the most qualified candidate is not hired.

00:26:06.000 And instead, we hire either less qualified females, and that's happening all over the place. 1.00

00:26:12.000 It's happening in STEM ubiquitously, or underqualified minorities, Blacks and Hispanics. 0.97

00:26:18.000 Asians don't count as people of color when it comes to meritocratic hiring. 1.00

00:26:23.000 So they do think that they're going to be safe, but they're willing to sacrifice the caliber of American competitiveness of institutions.

00:26:31.000 I mean, this is very scary, Charlie.

00:26:33.000 It is going to start to bite, whether it's in medicine and you cannot be sure.

00:26:39.000 You know, if you're in the NIR and you get a non-white doctor, you cannot be sure given the ubiquity of racial preferences.

00:26:48.000 And that's why you can't be sure that you have the most qualified doctor.

00:26:53.000 He well may be.

00:26:54.000 And there are many minority doctors who are qualified, but there are many more who are being promoted simply on the basis of race.

00:27:01.000 So the elites think that they'll hold on to the positions, but I would also add it's more, it's about more, Charlie, I think, than protecting the kleptocracy. 0.78

00:27:10.000 And I'm not going to take a pure Marxist anti big government line because I do think that there is still value in competition and the extent we still have free markets.

00:27:24.000 What is also going on here in this culture is the obsession with anti-racism and the problem of disparate impact.

00:27:34.000 The fact is, is that there's not a single meritocratic standard or behavioral standard that does not have a disparate impact on blacks.

00:27:43.000 That's why we're tearing down gifted and talented education, why we're tearing down calculus and algebra in the California school, high school system, why we're tearing down standards in STEM.

00:27:57.000 And you have the head of the National Institute of Health, Francis Collins, demanding that his neurology project hire on the basis of race, which is appalling.

00:28:09.000 And it's also why we're tearing down the law enforcement system, because there's not a single criminal law that doesn't have, if you enforce it, a disparate impact on Blacks. 0.75

00:28:18.000 And our elites have decided that we would rather get rid of meritocratic and behavioral standards than look at the root causes of disparate impact, which is a vast academic skills gap and a vast behavioral crime commission gap.

00:28:35.000 And when you get rid of those standards, of course, you're hurting primary, in the first place, those millions of law-abiding blacks who deserve protection from street crime.

00:28:48.000 But this tearing down of standards, which is happening in every institution, it is all coming down.

00:28:55.000 As long as the left controls the narrative and as long as the only allowable explanation for racial disparities is bias, it is all coming down, Charlie.

00:29:07.000 And we are looking towards a future that is chaotic, that we cannot count on competence in our institutions, whether they're legal institutions, the federal bench, medical institutions, corporate bureaucracies.

00:29:23.000 This is a very, very dangerous moment.

00:29:26.000 I mean, the people on the Upper East Side who have the, they participate in the anti-racism chants and they give money.

00:29:33.000 I guarantee you that when their ideology actually gets challenged and they get diagnosed with COVID and they need monoclonal antibodies and they have to go to some doctor that says, oh, yeah, actually, by the way, your melanin content isn't exactly up to standards.

00:29:49.000 So you're going to have to go to the back of the line. 0.91

00:29:52.000 Is there going to be a moment where the white elites themselves that are pushing this crap actually have to suffer under their own diversity regime? 0.98

00:30:00.000 I hope so. 0.99

00:30:02.000 Bring it on.

00:30:02.000 I hope so.

00:30:03.000 And it's a real question.

00:30:04.000 I mean, this, this, these, we've seen this before in December 2020, we also had race-based treatments.

00:30:10.000 It is white culling. 0.77

00:30:11.000 Let's just be honest. 0.92

00:30:12.000 It's very uncomfortable for whites to hear this, but it is a warrant whites. 1.00

00:30:16.000 And I hope that the elites finally start to suffer for it and that their kids don't get into Harvard despite their millions of donations over the years to try and ensure just that.

00:30:29.000 They always want carve outs for their own preferences.

00:30:33.000 And we'll see.

00:30:35.000 They want to live in a highly racist society.

00:30:37.000 Well, they've created it.

00:30:41.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:31:47.000 So I have a question about the gender part of this.

00:31:50.000 You go into great length about that.

00:31:52.000 And I notice how you say how race and gender and not class, which is, you know, obviously where they're focusing right now.

00:31:59.000 How do you anticipate the kind of alphabet mafia, the gender lobby? 0.85

00:32:05.000 How are they going to handle the preferences of trying to elevate women and trying to, let's say, let's diminish men with this transgender development? 1.00

00:32:18.000 How are we supposed to process that?

00:32:20.000 It's unplausible, processable.

00:32:22.000 My mind just explodes.

00:32:25.000 We have these clarifying moments when you learn who now is at the top dog in the great totem pool of victimhood.

00:32:32.000 One of those clarifying moments was Europe in 2014, where there were mass sexual assaults on New Year's Day or New Year's Eve in Germany and France committed by Muslims against European women. 0.99

00:32:46.000 And you would have thought that feminists would be up in arms about this because here was actually a moment of rape culture. 1.00

00:32:53.000 There'd never been mass sexual assaults in Germany before.

00:32:56.000 And yet the feminists were silent because multiculturalism trumps feminism. 1.00

00:33:01.000 And it was taboo to say that maybe we should rethink our immigration policies.

00:33:07.000 Well, who would have thought that trans trumps feminism here too? 1.00

00:33:14.000 I frankly look on with utter glee to see, and I'm sorry it's cruel to the individuals that are hurt by this, but I love the fact that these feminist soccer moms who've been grooming their daughters for swimming scholarships or soccer scholarships or tennis scholarships since in college, 1.00

00:33:34.000 since age five, are now seeing their daughters' chances of getting a scholarship or winning a championship pushed aside by these trans pretenders after feminists have destroyed male sports under Title IX equity rules and insisting on having equal funding for female sports that nobody attends and goes to. 0.99

00:34:01.000 So, you know, it's very, very bizarre.

00:34:04.000 And I would think that any feminist would simply be able to say, I'm sorry, you are a male and it is ridiculous to have a male competing with a female on a track field or in a swimming lane. 0.92

00:34:19.000 But somehow, if I was a really radical feminist, what you would say was, well, that figures because males dominate. 1.00

00:34:28.000 And even when they're in the guise of females, that's just what we'd expect of males to try and destroy female success.

00:34:37.000 That would be a consistent explanation, but instead we have no explanation.

00:34:41.000 So I'm sitting on the sidelines and cheering it on.

00:34:44.000 It's like gladiator battles. 0.99

00:34:46.000 I hope they destroy each other. 0.98

00:34:47.000 And they probably will. 0.99

00:34:48.000 And they're paralyzed.

00:34:49.000 You mentioned this theme on our show, which is this matters more than that, which is reorganizing the hierarchy of left-wing victim groups or what we call the oppression Olympics.

00:34:59.000 It's been really interesting how the push for the mandatory vaccine mattered more than black lives, right? 1.00

00:35:05.000 Even black athletes and black activists were suppressed in the push for the mandatory vaccine.

00:35:10.000 So that was almost like social control matters more than black liberation, which was interesting.

00:35:14.000 And you see that with the transgender issue as well, right?

00:35:17.000 When Dave Chappelle came against the trans lobby, they said he's being transphobic, but I thought that you get the I Could Say Whatever I Want card as a Black comedian, right?

00:35:27.000 So that was really interesting.

00:35:28.000 Heather, what can people do about this diversity delusion? 0.97

00:35:31.000 You diagnose the problem perfectly.

00:35:33.000 Mom's listening to this right now.

00:35:34.000 What can be done?

00:35:36.000 Don't be scared of being called a racist or a sexist.

00:35:40.000 If you believe that you see the truth about human existence, about differences between males and females, about the fact that it is not racist to have expectations of respecting property, don't steal.

00:35:54.000 And you think you're going to be called a racist for supporting law and order, for supporting reality, you've got to be strong.

00:36:02.000 And if you wait out the Twitter mob, I think they will go away with their tail behind their legs.

00:36:07.000 But if you live a life where you capitulate to these lies, and we all do that, we are moving either to a totalitarian state or to something that we haven't even seen before in human history.

00:36:20.000 I agree.

00:36:20.000 Well, you're one of the people that's going to help make sure that doesn't happen.

00:36:23.000 So thank you so much, Heather.

00:36:24.000 We really appreciate it.

00:36:25.000 Diversity delusion, everyone, pick up a copy. 0.77

00:36:28.000 We really appreciate it.

00:36:29.000 Thank you so much.

00:36:30.000 Thank you so much, Charlie.

00:36:31.000 It's an honor.

00:36:34.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 20, 2022

Unraveling a Generational Descent into Chaos with Heather Mac Donald

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