00:00:16.000Well, I've been really curious about the topic of vaccines.
00:00:20.000We had Bobby Kennedy Jr. on our show over the summer.
00:00:23.000We've been told that everyone has to get vaccinated always and never ask any questions about it.
00:00:27.000I remember some reporter came up to me and he said that, Charlie, are you going to have more people from the disinformation dozen on your show?
00:00:38.000And it was this list that Biden put forward trying to say that all these people are harming medicine as we know it.
00:00:45.000And I didn't respond because he's a lunatic.
00:00:48.000And the more the media says we can't talk about an issue, the more interested I get.
00:00:53.000So our guest today is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny.
00:00:57.000She is known as probably one of the leading vaccine critics in the country.
00:02:38.000I'd love your feedback on it, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:02:42.000I ask her very honest questions because this is a new topic for me.
00:02:46.000And I know that you guys want to get to the bottom of this.
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00:05:01.000And then after doing this for so long, when COVID and COVID shots all came along, it was a natural extension of the research and everything I've been doing over the last 20 years to start looking at the problems involved with this entire scamdemic.
00:05:16.000Yeah, so that's kind of where I come in.
00:05:17.000I've never really taken much of an interest in the vaccine topic until recently, to be honest.
00:05:23.000A lot going on in the world, as you probably have noticed.
00:05:25.000And all of a sudden, there was this whole conversation around that we need to inoculate ourselves against a virus that I felt perfectly confident that I was going to be able to get through with treatments and a healthy lifestyle.
00:05:38.000And I made a statement back in November of 2020 at a church, my friend Greg Farrington's church, that I wasn't going to take the vaccine.
00:05:45.000And I got attacked from every single media outlet imaginable.
00:05:59.000And again, I don't come at this from any sort of expertise, just someone that has kind of looked at things around me and I'm trying to learn.
00:06:07.000So let's just kind of start with some of the things that you said.
00:06:25.000Well, they've definitely not been safe.
00:06:27.000Safety studies in any of the vaccines, whether they're the childhood vaccines, adult vaccines, and for sure the COVID vaccine, are very short-term.
00:06:35.000They are many, most of them are 14 to 21 days at most.
00:06:39.000And long-term consequences of any shot like autoimmune diseases, cardiovascular problems, neurological problems take weeks to months to develop.
00:07:06.000The other thing is the word efficacy, because in scientific research in vaccines, efficacy, if you look up the definition of efficacy in Webster's, it says that the intent to do, they do what they are intended to do.
00:07:22.000So vaccines are intended to create an antibody.
00:07:25.000So they are effective in that they create an antibody.
00:07:27.000But we as consumers and as the general population assume that effective means that it keeps you from getting sick, and they don't.
00:07:36.000You can get a flu shot and still get the flu.
00:07:39.000You definitely can still get COVID because most people are getting sick from that.
00:07:44.000And we actually know the mechanisms of why.
00:07:46.000And so they're not effective in terms of how the general population defines that word.
00:07:51.000They are effective that they create an antibody, but effective and protection are not synonyms.
00:07:58.000So let's take mumps or measles, for example.
00:08:02.000Do you think it's effective against those viruses?
00:08:04.000It doesn't keep you from getting those infections.
00:08:08.000You can still get the, you can get the shot and still get the infection.
00:08:12.000We know that most recently, you know, there's been two really big outbreaks of mumps in maybe the last five to seven years.
00:08:17.000One was in Iowa amongst college students, and they found out that all of those college students that contracted the mumps had at least two, if not three, MMR vaccines.
00:08:28.000There was a big outbreak of mumps on fully vaccinated Navy ship, and everybody had had at least one, if not two, mumps vaccines.
00:08:36.000So that just makes the point that you can get the shot and still contract the infection.
00:08:40.000So the argument, the other side, I guess you would say, is they point to the Orthodox community in New York.
00:08:47.000You've probably heard this argument where before there was like two cases of mumps or measles.
00:08:53.000I get them interchange, but it's because it's always.
00:09:12.000Do you think the vaccine had anything to do with kind of flattening that curve?
00:09:16.000It may flatten the curve, but what was the trade-off?
00:09:20.000You know, when we flattened the curve on measles, which had people that had, there was a very high incidence rate of measles in the 60s and in the 1960s.
00:09:30.000And then when we decided we were going to mass vaccinate people against measles, we dropped the infection rate, but we exchanged it for asthma, allergies, eczema, ADD, ADHD, insulin-dependent diabetes, neurological problems, autoimmune conditions, and yes, autism, which is the far end of the autoimmune things that are happening inside of the brain.
00:09:52.000A mild infection that for the vast majority of people, it lasts seven to 10 days, and then they have a literal lifetime of immunity because it's a natural infection.
00:10:02.000Or do we drop the infection rate for one or two deaths?
00:10:06.000Because here's a really interesting statistic, Charlie, that I think you'd like to know.
00:10:10.000That prior to when the measles vaccine became widely available in 1963, the year before the measles vaccine came on the market, the death rate from measles was one to two per million.
00:11:12.000And he says, look, he said, the reason why people don't want to take the vaccines, this was years ago, is because we're a victim of our own success.
00:11:19.000You've probably heard this from the vaccine lobby at some point, that we've basically eradicated some of these viruses and diseases.
00:11:26.000Therefore, people don't think they're that big of an issue.
00:11:28.000And so he says measles, or he said mumps or whatever.
00:11:46.000Which I, the chickenpox one is the most interesting one because I had chickenpox growing up and never did my parents or anyone think that I was going to die.
00:12:21.000I mean, do we ever have an endpoint of tolerance?
00:12:24.000Meaning, if we drop the incidence rate of these infections down to where it's a negligible rate, I mean, one or two kids pop up here and there with measles, mumps, chickenpox, you know, pertussis, things like that.
00:12:38.000When do we decide that we've eradicated this viral infection down to the point that we can have a couple of kids here and there to get these shots?
00:12:49.000Do we need to mass vaccinate children with now 72 doses of vaccines by the time they are in high school?
00:12:56.000And multiple doses of, when do we decide that it's enough?
00:12:59.000We will never see eradication to where we have zero, zero cases of measles, zero mumps, zero chickenpox, and all those things.
00:13:07.000It's never going to happen because the life cycle of the virus is about every four years.
00:13:12.000We're going to see an outbreak of these viruses every four years or so, irrespective of the vaccination rate.
00:13:26.000If your business had 4 million guaranteed, government-guaranteed customers every single year, because the birth rate of kids in this country is about 4 million per year.
00:13:38.000And in those childhood vaccines, there are about 12 different vaccines that they get multiple doses of by the time they start kindergarten.
00:13:47.000If your business had 4 million government-guaranteed customers that had to take by multiple doses of your product every single year, when would you decide, well, we don't need to do this anymore.
00:14:04.000So it's a, and, and I've long said that the that the childhood vaccination schedule, it is the economic loss leader for the pharmaceutical industry because there's going to be five to maybe 15% of those children that are going to end up with long-term chronic disease.
00:14:21.000They're going to end up with asthma, allergies, eczema, ADD, seizure disorders, autoimmune diseases, and all of those things, which drives the subspecialists going to the doctor more tests, more pharmaceutical drugs that they become customers for life.
00:14:37.000And so if you took out the vaccination schedule, because if you look at fully unvaccinated kids, they're healthy.
00:14:50.000Now, if suddenly your 4 million customers go to 100,000, what would that do to your bottom line?
00:14:57.000So in my opinion, and after looking at this for more than 20 years, the vaccination schedule and the pediatric vaccination schedule is the economic driver of the pharmaceutical industry to make sure that you've got customers for life on their long-term chronic daily medications.
00:15:16.000So when I ask some of the vaccine company advocates or whatever you want to call them, just kind of the defenders of the status quo about that's a nice way to put it.
00:15:27.000And some of the people haven't just thought very deeply about this.
00:15:29.000And again, I'm just trying to kind of make sense of all this.
00:15:32.000They say the problem with your argument, the problem with Bobby Kennedy's argument, the problem, they say, is the old causation and correlation argument.
00:15:42.000I'm sure you've encountered this before.
00:16:09.000It's because they want to blame anything but the vaccine.
00:16:13.000And if you ever notice those arguments, no matter how long the list of the counter is, they never even put into that list, perhaps it was the vaccine, on at least some of those kids.
00:16:24.000It's never even included in their argument.
00:16:29.000And so I guess my question for you, you said something that really interested me.
00:16:32.000You say you take a group of unvaccinated kids.
00:16:35.000Have there been studies that you would methodologically agree with done properly that kind of do that sort of study of vaccinated versus unvaccinated kids?
00:16:43.000There have been two studies that have come out.
00:16:48.000And the CDC said, well, that wasn't valid because phone surveys aren't valid except they do them all the time.
00:16:55.000So, you know, this phone survey that was asking about how many vaccines have you had.
00:16:59.000And the end of that study was that they showed that, if I remember correctly, this was a while ago.
00:17:04.000So it was somewhere around 14% of the people in that study.
00:17:09.000There was a 14% increase of asthma and allergies in the vaccinated population versus the unvaccinated population.
00:17:16.000Then there was a couple of other studies that were done, really well-designed long-term studies to look at the number of medications that unvaccinated children were taking as opposed to the number of medications that vaccinated children were taken.
00:17:30.000And that's a really good study because it's a real number.
00:17:34.000I mean, you can't take in the variables about what your food is like if you have animals in the house.
00:17:40.000But the number of medications that children are taking that are fully vaccinated versus completely unvaccinated.
00:17:47.000I mean, the fully vaccinated children in that particular study was reaching two to three to four when the unvaccinated was one or zero.
00:17:55.000And then they pulled the study and told them that it was unethical to do a study of vaccinated versus unvaccinated because they think they claim that an unvaccinated child is being mistreated.
00:18:08.000And it's because unvaccinated children, you're withholding a known treatment of benefit from a child.
00:18:15.000So you're putting that child, that unvaccinated child at risk.
00:18:18.000So they've got every excuse underneath the sun to not do this.
00:18:23.000I mean, in their big, and the CDC, last time I looked, had like a $16 or $18 billion a year annual budget, and that was before COVID.
00:18:31.000And it's like, you mean you can't fund a study of vaccinated versus unvaccinated kids to see if the vaccine, maybe the vaccine is really much better.
00:19:22.000About 18 into college, because when you get into college, they're talking about meningitis vaccines, you know, hepatitis B starts at birth.
00:19:31.000You know, they start giving it within hours of birth.
00:19:34.000Yeah, in case your kids sexually active at age eight or doing heroin.
00:20:22.000And when we started giving hepatitis B at birth, Congress actually had a hearing and said, where's your data?
00:20:28.000Where's your studies that have shown that this is safe and not going to mess up developmental and all these different things in these kids?
00:20:34.000And the pharmaceutical industry said to Congress, we don't have any of that.
00:20:39.000We tested the hepatitis B vaccine on five and seven-year-old kids.
00:20:43.000And they said, so that automatically makes it okay for a neonate one or two or three days old.
00:21:15.000Do you think it was a good thing for humanity that that technology was developed and deployed?
00:21:20.000Well, smallpox vaccine, we stopped giving it to the general population in 1972 because it was causing more side effects and more long-term complications.
00:21:30.000And the incidence rate of smallpox globally had dropped almost to zero.
00:21:34.000In fact, in the early 1900s, we went from very virulent smallpox that caused historically things like when they put the blankets and gave them to the Indians and stuff like that.
00:21:57.000But we continued to vaccinate because Jenner's vaccine actually became on the market in 1800 and 1801, was the first smallpox vaccines delivered in the United States.
00:22:07.000And so by 1972, we decided that the incidence of smallpox worldwide was almost negligible.
00:22:15.000So they actually fabricated this thing and said it was all about the vaccine.
00:22:19.000But really less than 10% of the global population had ever been vaccinated with a smallpox vaccine.
00:22:24.000And the numbers of gangrene and loss of limbs and all these things that were happening from the shot, they actually created, it's very interesting history, actually.
00:22:32.000We don't have time to go over all of it, but it's very interesting how they kind of created this whole thing that celebrated the smallpox vaccine, eradicated smallpox, which when you really read the history, it really did not.
00:22:46.000So we stopped giving the smallpox vaccine in 1972.
00:22:49.000We continued to give it to the military into the 1990s for no reason other than we just did.
00:22:54.000And the same thing with the polio vaccine.
00:22:57.000You know, the peak of polio was in 1954, and that's when the vaccine was released.
00:23:03.000We still give children today four doses of polio vaccine here in the United States, even though polio has, the World Health Organization has declared the Western hemisphere, the entire Western hemisphere, polio-free since 1994.
00:23:20.000But yet we still continue to give kids four doses of polio to protect against a virus that doesn't even exist.
00:23:26.000So their argument would be we give it because we don't want to reintroduce it because we eradicated it because.
00:23:32.000But if something doesn't exist, what do I need to protect?
00:23:35.000If this water bottle no longer existed, it just didn't exist.
00:23:53.000It's a viral illness that we started using the, you know, it first started with the oral drops, the little sugar cube that you put in your mouth.
00:24:16.000So in our country, we went away from the oral polio vaccine and went to the injectable polio vaccine in about 19, in about 2000.
00:24:25.000We haven't used the oral polio vaccine for that long, but oral polio vaccines, still given as the little drops under the tongue, are still used in third world countries.
00:24:34.000And they know absolutely that they are still seeing cases of polio, but it's coming from the vaccine.
00:24:42.000So do you think Jonas Salk and all of that kind of celebration of him and the introduction of polio, the polio vaccine, was that a positive thing?
00:25:47.000But here's something that I, a little historical fact that not many people know.
00:25:51.000You know, every time we see like pictures of polio, we think March of Dimes, you know, the kids in braces, and we think about kids on ventilators.
00:25:59.000And there's one picture that shows all these bassinet-sized things that was supposed to be a polio ward.
00:26:04.000And also the chain, the hyperbaric chamber, right?
00:26:13.000So I wanted to see how many people actually were on iron lungs.
00:26:18.000And I spent months actually looking for this information.
00:26:22.000You would think that would be readily available somewhere, right?
00:26:25.000I actually even went to the History of Medicine Museum in Baltimore and actually got permission to go into the basement to see if I could actually find the number of people who were on iron lungs, which was supposed to be the worst type of polio that it stopped your breathing.
00:26:38.000I investigated manufacturers of iron lung machines.
00:26:42.000I went to all kinds of places to try to find the data.
00:26:46.000And when I finally found it, like three or four years later, there were about 1,200 people in the entire country that were on iron lungs.
00:26:54.000It doesn't seem like a horrible, I mean, yes, I mean, I never want to minimize a death or make it sound like it was negligible.
00:27:02.000But when you've got a population in the country of over 200 million and you have 1,200 people on an iron lung machine, 1,200 to 1,500 people, I think more people died in car accidents.
00:27:13.000And that didn't, so we didn't want to do something to eliminate cars.
00:27:16.000Yeah, I mean, the telling from the greatest generation in my grandmother's generation, they did think back and they were like, polio was a problem.
00:27:49.000And the propaganda that went on behind it is, I mean, you could write three books about that.
00:27:55.000And actually, whenever you meet someone who really is kind of new to the topic or they, because there's more people having kids all the time.
00:28:07.000So it always starts with what about smallpox and what about polio.
00:28:11.000So I've created two courses actually about it that if you go to, I mean, one of our websites is learning4you.org, learning the number four, YOU, learningforyou.org.
00:28:23.000And there's two hours of courses in there each about smallpox and polio that give the different perspective and give all the references and all the technology and all these things to see.
00:28:36.000You know, when you get the media involved with it, as the propaganda arm, and as long as they say the same thing over and again, and they drive the fear wheel over and over and again, like they have with this COVID shot, you know, people just, they don't dig any deeper, just like what you had said earlier, that, you know, there was a couple things that made you dig a little deeper, but most people just, whatever's coming out of that box, that's all they need to know.
00:29:00.000So there's 72 doses from birth to 18 years old.
00:29:08.000There's 17 different vaccines, multiple doses of 17 vaccines.
00:29:12.000So when you add them all up, it's right around 72.
00:29:15.000So would you, I know you have to be careful giving medical advice, but do you think any of those are necessary?
00:29:23.000I don't because I look at all of the completely unvaccinated kids that we have a huge, you know, we have a pediatrician in our practice in Cleveland, Ohio.
00:29:32.000And when we see we have, you know, all the unvaccinated kids, they're perfectly healthy.
00:29:39.000When we see the vaccinated kids, there's always something broken in their immune system or something.
00:29:46.000They've got all these different things.
00:29:48.000So I think it's a technology whose time has kind of come to go away, but it will never go away because it's the economic driver of the pharmaceutical industry.
00:29:57.000And like I already said, if you've got 4 million guaranteed customers every single year, it's really about the money.
00:31:38.000I mean, now that it's actually a lot of hospitals actually hold young parents hostage and say, we're not going to release your child from the hospital until they get a hepatitis B vaccine.
00:31:47.000And we know that they've had a visit from a pediatrician and the pediatrician is actually all pushing the vaccines.
00:31:54.000See, what I always would say, Charlie, and I would say to your audience, which I know is a younger audience, you know, just investigate before you vaccinate.
00:32:01.000The only reason that they set up the pediatric schedule like they did at two, four, and six months in one year, where they get like seven to nine doses of vaccines in one day.
00:32:12.000The reason that that was set up is for doctor convenience and for the sake of your insurance.
00:32:16.000Well, baby visits are at two, four, and six months.
00:32:21.000And it's interesting that ever since this COVID thing has happened, you know, parents are staying at home.
00:32:26.000They're, you know, they're working from home now.
00:32:28.000They don't go to the doctor and they've found that their kids now are a year old and they're unvaccinated because they just never got around to going to the pediatrician.
00:32:42.000They don't have any other underlying things.
00:32:44.000And I think that that's been a big eye-opener for young parents.
00:32:48.000Suddenly they're like, they're questioning the COVID shot as they should, which like is a rollover into them start at least investigating all the other shots.
00:32:58.000Then they're going, well, maybe these aren't really necessary either.
00:33:01.000And when they start looking at the ingredients inside of those shots, you know, serum, cow blood, chicken parts, you know, dog kidney cells, insect cells, mercury, tons of aluminum, almost 13,000 micrograms of aluminum if you get the full schedule.
00:33:17.000And then you look at the cells from aborted fetal tissue that are in the rubella shot, the chickenpox vaccine, and the shingle shot in adults.
00:33:26.000I mean, they start looking at these ingredients and they go, do I really want this injected in my child?
00:33:30.000Why didn't anybody tell me these things?
00:33:32.000And so now that they're investigating, they're like, well, maybe these things aren't so necessary.
00:33:37.000And so you're talking about transmuting like different things that they change, like from cigarettes to fast food.
00:33:44.000I think the COVID shot and the challenges that that's had, and people are saying, no, I don't want an experimental genetic modification technology that's going to permanently and irreversibly change my God-given genes and my God-given genetics.
00:35:46.000Because you do know there's a whole scientific movement that the C-section, because they don't get the last kind of part of bacteria from the mother, that there's a lot of, there's a huge movement to try to end C-sections.
00:35:59.000Well, they should end C-sections except for emergencies from probably a whole other bunch of reasons.
00:36:29.000Because there are conditions with the cord wrapped around the neck or shoulder dystocia or things like that.
00:36:34.000You can't just fit through the birth canal.
00:36:36.000Are we glad that we can save the mother and the baby with that technology?
00:36:40.000But it's way overused, and we've known that for decades.
00:36:43.000And it's usually done at either the parents' convenience.
00:36:45.000You know, I'm tired of being, I'm tired of being pregnant.
00:36:48.000I want to go on a cruise next week, or the doctors are going out of town, or we just schedule it so it's convenient because, oh, well, you're far enough along.
00:37:21.000It's state by state, and it's also almost hospital by hospital because different hospitals in the state of Ohio may have different rules.
00:37:28.000But they really need to, parents need to step into the place of having their birth, their birth, their birth plan in place before they ever go to the hospital.
00:37:38.000I've been a big advocate for a long time about home births, having your midwife and things like that backed up.
00:37:44.000I mean, my business partner, four out of five of his kids were born at home, and it was like no big deal, right?
00:37:51.000And so I think that people are now not wanting to go to hospitals because as soon as you go to the hospital, you get tested for COVID and all that whole domino effect things happen.
00:38:01.000And so I believe there's going to be a resurgence of home births, needs for midwives, and doing this at home instead of medicalizing birth.
00:38:10.000We need to have it like natural God-given birth.
00:38:13.000Yeah, hospitals are not there for treatment.
00:38:15.000They can intervene in a small percentage of births where there are life-threatening.
00:40:17.000But are they too willing to just be overzealous and just to prescribe a medication as opposed to saying maybe they've got food allergies, maybe they've got environmental allergies, maybe they're allergic to the dog, and that's why they're having all of these different things.
00:40:29.000So an overzealous medical community, because the only tool in their toolbox is writing a prescription.
00:40:37.000They don't spend time with parents talking about normal developmental milestones and when do you introduce these types of foods.
00:40:43.000And let's look at, I've had pediatricians, I've read published reports now where pediatricians say, yes, developing asthma at two is kind of a normal milestone.
00:42:07.000Because what ends up happening in a lot of cases is that the first child gets fully vaccinated because parents think that's what they're supposed to do.
00:42:15.000And then they end up with all these illnesses and all these problems.
00:42:18.000And they're going, they start to investigate and they start looking around, going, I'm not going to do that anymore.
00:42:23.000So then child two, three, and four are like I just described in that other family.
00:42:27.000They're completely unvaccinated, no problems whatsoever.
00:42:58.000You know, this whole thing that we've been talking about, I mean, in the last two years, Charlie, I've done almost 600 interviews.
00:43:04.000I've done just between April of 21 and December of 21, I did 389 events, either live events or speaking events, either like being interviewed or having people on my own podcast.
00:43:28.000You know, we've talked about the fraud of the PCR testing.
00:43:31.000We know about the cycle values, cycle thresholds.
00:43:35.000We know about all they're doing is data harvesting and collecting to put in the mass databases so that they can move us into the transhumanism movement.
00:43:42.000We know that that's what the PCR testing is all about.
00:43:45.000We know about the social distancing and what a big complete nonsense that is.
00:43:50.000I mean, it's the smartest virus ever, right?
00:44:27.000And between May and July, I found 20 more mechanisms of injury.
00:44:31.000So there are 40 different ways these COVID shots can make you sick or kill you.
00:44:35.000And both of those e-books are available on my website.
00:44:38.000But we know that these shots are really bad and people don't want them.
00:44:42.000We think that less, you know, all the numbers that come through the propaganda machine are wrong.
00:44:46.000We don't have an absolute count on the number of people who are not vaccinated or refusing the vaccines, but we think that the unvaccinated population is more than 40%.
00:46:03.000But how do you interpret and process the president United States kind of declaring war on you?
00:46:12.000I love it because I feel like that means I'm right over the radar.
00:46:16.000I am hovering right over the target and they know it.
00:46:19.000And in all the years that I've been doing this and doing it loudly, you know, when I first got into talking out, speaking a lot about problems associated with vaccines in September of 2000 and been doing it loudly going forward, somebody gave me great advice and they said, Sherry, there's one of two ways that you really need to do this, either very quietly, one-on-one with patients in your office or as big and loud as you possibly can, which was kind of more my personality.
00:46:46.000You know, once I know what I know, I want to share it with people.
00:46:50.000And they've never, ever been able to challenge me on the science because I only pull out information from peer-reviewed published literature.
00:46:58.000I have a personal collection of over 17,000 articles from the peer-reviewed medical literature showing problems with vaccines, either whole full-text articles or links to abstracts to articles.
00:47:19.000All you have to do is sign up for free, just register, and you can have access to that entire collection of articles showing problems with vaccines.
00:47:27.000So when the president of the person who calls himself president of the United States declares war on me, it's like, bring it on, baby.
00:48:17.000And we hired a very professional local television guy to be the moderator.
00:48:23.000So there would be no, it would just be my answers versus their answers, our answers versus their answers, and have it highly publicized was going to be about two hours and then let the people decide.
00:48:37.000There was like six people on the disinformation side and six people on their side.
00:48:42.000And three days before the event was supposed to occur, they all pulled out because their discussion was, we can't have a debate with these people because then we will give credibility to the fact that there's something worth debating.
00:48:56.000And so every time that we have tried to like, come on, bring it on.
00:49:13.000If I've got 17,000 articles pulled from peer-reviewed medical literature like the New England Journal and JAMA and, you know, British Medical Journal and all these different things published in their studies that they should know about, and they aren't willing to just have a conversation about what's your beliefs, show us your science.
00:49:55.000Because that obviously has to be part of your outreach too, right?
00:49:58.000Well, partly there's two answers to that.
00:50:01.000For one thing, you know, once you're vaccinated, you can't unvaccinate.
00:50:06.000It's not like I can stick a needle in you and go and pull it back out of your system.
00:50:10.000So once you are vaccinated, you cannot unvaccinate.
00:50:14.000And that's why I would encourage your young audience, the people that listen to you and follow you, please investigate before you vaccinate.
00:50:21.000Know what's coming through the needle.
00:50:23.000Know the potential side effects and understand what measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox really is and how you can treat it naturally at home.
00:50:30.000Like everybody in my generation just had all those infections.
00:50:53.000Like these are things that are now more widespread than in the 1960s.
00:50:58.000Yes, but I'm also saying that, you know, I'm a lot older than I look.
00:51:04.000And I'm saying that, you know, people, all these people in my generation, you know, 50 and above generation, we had all these infections and recovered.
00:51:14.000That's not going to give people comfort.
00:51:19.000And yet there are, again, I will say, yes, there are other things that parents feel like they need to do something.
00:51:25.000And so there are homeopathy, there's herboproduction.
00:51:27.000I'm trying to create a bridge because just telling a parent that your kids is going to get mumps.
00:51:35.000But here's part of what I'm saying is like, if you did just a little bit of reading, just a little bit, even on your phone, and find out what mumps really was, maybe you wouldn't be so terrified of it.
00:51:44.000And if your kid got mumps, it wouldn't be such a big deal.
00:52:21.000Understand what you can do as terms of home remedies.
00:52:24.000Can you use lavender oil and can you use different types of things?
00:52:29.000But the most important thing is keep your child healthy in terms of keeping away from white sugar, white flour, junk food, all those different things.
00:52:37.000And I've got parents in our practice that have never given their children sugar ever.
00:52:43.000If they want a treat, they get a piece of fruit.
00:53:28.000And so if I worked for Pfizer or AstraZeneca or Moderna or Johnson Johnson, which I don't, they'd say, okay, if we don't keep up the fight against polio and keep vaccinating, then 20 years from now, because of people like you, polio is going to come back.
00:54:01.000In fact, before we started, there was several studies that came out in the 16, 17 era that showed that more than 60% of parents were seriously questioning the pediatric childhood schedule.
00:54:16.000Why do they have even pro-vaccine parents, even parents that were willing to get their child vaccinated, they were like, can I give them one at a time?
00:55:59.000Stephanie Sena from MIT, you know, has done some projections and saying that if we stay on the same rate of autism that by the year 2035, I think she said, or maybe 2032, but in that, that 50% of all children will be on the autism spectrum.
00:56:17.000And of that 50%, the vast majority will be boys.
00:56:22.000For some reason, boys are more susceptible to the brain injury that comes.
00:56:34.000I mean, there are hundreds of articles that are published about it.
00:56:37.000Even Dr. Andy Wakefield, who they, you know, continue to chastise him, that was 20-some years ago when he published that case report saying perhaps we need to investigate this further.
00:56:48.000And instead, that was taken out of context and he was made the villain of the entire vaccine industry.
00:56:53.000I mean, it was like 2,100 mainstream articles about him, like in a matter of 48 hours.
00:57:00.000He was on Anderson after he was on Anderson Cooper and all this stuff, right?
00:57:03.000So they still use that disparaged, a disparaged physician who said that there was any connection between MMR and autism.
00:57:12.000They drag Andy around every once in a while, but that was 20 years ago.
00:57:16.000Do you really think that maybe there have been more research studies and more things that have been published since that time?
00:57:21.000The answer is yes, but they never talk about those.
00:57:24.000Yeah, it's this kind of very frustrating loop I'm sure that you're in because no one wants to study it as deeply as you think they should, right?
00:57:32.000And then there's all these other side effects.
00:58:14.000And that was in the 50s and the 40s when women started smoking, when we were talking about smoking a little bit earlier while pregnant and things like that.
00:58:23.000So we've come kind of full circle to a lot of different things about the issues with these childhood shots.
00:58:30.000I'd really like to spend the last few minutes while we're together more on the COVID shot and what Yeah, the reason I haven't focused on that is we've done a ton of guests on that.
00:59:03.000And I've been doing that pretty full steam ahead.
00:59:06.000So it's a little different take on just like the messenger RNA and all the shots of maybe some of your other guests because I really believe that there's strong ramifications of what this COVID shot does to our genetics as a genetic modification technology that are God-given genes, that there's one of us.
00:59:23.000You know, when your dad's sperm and your mom's egg came together and God said, spark of life, there's never been another one of you ever, and there won't be in the future.
00:59:33.000It's God's gift to us, and Yahweh is actually written right across our genes in the Hebrew, in the Hebrew language, in the Hebrew letters.
00:59:40.000And these COVID shots are actually going in and snipping those sulfide bonds and trying and removing Yahweh from our genes.
00:59:47.000And actually, when you do all the spiritual, you know, biblical texts and saying, you know, our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and we volunteer to contaminate it, I think that that's a really, really big deal.
00:59:57.000And I think that those people who've taken the shot and start looking around at all the different ramifications of that, it's going to become a spiritual revival, Charlie, and you know, about that people need to get back to God because they got vaccinated for one of two reasons: either out of fear or convenience.
01:00:14.000Now, fear, they should have taken to the Lord in prayer.
01:00:17.000They should have read their, you know, there's over 100 verses in the Bible that say fear not.
01:00:21.000And I kind of say that if God repeats himself that many times, it's probably important.
01:01:03.000I want to, you know, go to the house of blues.
01:01:05.000I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to.
01:01:07.000And once the people started really kind of realizing when you start seeing people that are seriously injured, I mean, the VARES database, are you familiar with the vaccine adverse event reporting?
01:01:42.000How could people follow you and support you?
01:01:44.000Well, we have a new website because we're raising money for a new healthcare system.
01:01:50.000I mean, what we're doing is I've got some great ideas.
01:01:53.000We've got a great team that we're put together because everybody's so sick of the healthcare system the way that it is.
01:01:58.000And so we want to help be part of developing a whole new healthcare system going forward that takes people that the pharmaceutical industry and the insurance industry don't tell you the type of care that you need to do.
01:02:22.000T-E-N-P-like Peter E-N-N-Y, just like it sounds, the 10pennyalliance.org.
01:02:29.000And we're going to be posting more and more things there.
01:02:31.000We've got a donate button because we're raising tons of money to be able to make, to put clinics across America to be one of the initial people.
01:02:39.000I know there's lots of people kind of doing these things, and it's all going to work.
01:03:06.000And the reason we had the conversation the way we did is there will be hundreds of thousands of people that listen to this that don't know where they fall on this kind of issue, myself included.