The Charlie Kirk Show - September 26, 2023


Wake Me Up When September Ends with Rep. Dan Bishop and Alex Marlow


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Dan Bishop and Alex Marlowe join Charlie to discuss the continuing resolution, the border, and Joe Biden's approval of a bill to impeach President Joe Biden. Charlie and Alex also talk about the lack of a deal on a continuing resolution to fund the government past September 30.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today's the Charlie Kirk show.
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00:01:09.000 Okay, 9:30 is looming, and there doesn't seem to be a deal in sight.
00:01:12.000 Doesn't seem to be any sort of resolution in sight.
00:01:15.000 And joining us now is Dan Bishop, who is fighting.
00:01:17.000 Dan, thank you for taking the time here.
00:01:19.000 I want to ask you directly, because we've had a couple Congress people on, and there's a lot of abstractions, and it drives me nuts.
00:01:24.000 Where do we stand today?
00:01:25.000 Is the government going to shut down?
00:01:27.000 Do you think a deal will be brokered before that?
00:01:29.000 Dan Bishop.
00:01:30.000 Charlie, I think we're going to have four appropriations bills on the floor this week.
00:01:34.000 We're going to pass appropriations bills.
00:01:36.000 Hallelujah.
00:01:38.000 What exactly happens with the 26% of government that we don't pass appropriations bills for this week?
00:01:44.000 I don't know yet.
00:01:46.000 But the point, Charlie, and Matt Gates said it better than anybody I've ever heard on Barbaromo's show yesterday, is that the failure theater has to stop.
00:01:56.000 The fakery and the gimmicks need to stop.
00:02:00.000 We need to show as Republicans that we can get the job done.
00:02:03.000 That means breaking through obstacles and delivering.
00:02:06.000 It's time.
00:02:07.000 Yes, I agree.
00:02:08.000 So let's play that piece of tape here.
00:02:10.000 And then I have several other specific questions.
00:02:12.000 And I want you to tell the audience what you mean by appropriation bills.
00:02:16.000 So let's go here to cut, I believe it's 48.
00:02:20.000 This has gone totally viral, Matt Gates and Maria Bartaromo.
00:02:23.000 And Maria is great.
00:02:23.000 She's 10 out of 10.
00:02:24.000 She's an excellent, excellent host. 0.90
00:02:26.000 Play cut 48.
00:02:27.000 It's the only way to break the fever and liberate ourselves from this out-of-control spending.
00:02:31.000 Well, he's doing the four bills next week.
00:02:33.000 Because we're making him.
00:02:34.000 Because we're making him.
00:02:35.000 He's doing it.
00:02:36.000 So to push now to blow up all of the wins that you all have had now.
00:02:41.000 Which wins?
00:02:42.000 Please enumerate them.
00:02:43.000 Well, okay.
00:02:43.000 Well, how about the fact that he has set up a weaponization committee to investigate the DOJ, whether they're involved in a cover-up?
00:02:50.000 How about the fact that he has hold on the fact that he hold on?
00:02:54.000 How about the fact that he has set up the China Select Committee to keep China to account? 0.84
00:02:58.000 And of course, he has launched this inquiry into impeachment potentially for President Biden.
00:03:05.000 Is that not what you want?
00:03:07.000 There's another clip after that that continues. 0.99
00:03:10.000 But look, I think Maria is great.
00:03:12.000 What I think Matt is getting at, though, is that it hasn't yet fulfilled the mandate of the base.
00:03:18.000 Is that fair to say, Congressman Bishop?
00:03:21.000 Well, it's a little more than that, Charlie.
00:03:23.000 The problem over time is there are theater, there's cosmetics, there are messaging bills, there are fakes, there are vows to do things that seem never to be followed through on.
00:03:37.000 And that's really what it comes down to.
00:03:39.000 Let's do something real.
00:03:43.000 You know, this CR over the, I mean, where I broke with Chip Roy and some and my good friend Scott Perry and so forth over this question of a continuing resolution, let's jump to a continuing resolution and put in there that we're going to the border, the HR2 bill and say we're going to cut spending 8% for 30 days.
00:04:02.000 I mean, that's, that's, they want to do something to show, to make a message.
00:04:06.000 There's nothing wrong with the message, Charlie, but it's time to do something real.
00:04:10.000 It's time to show Republican voters that they're, that the trust they repose in the Republican Party in Congress is not misplaced.
00:04:19.000 That's, it's not that it's easy.
00:04:21.000 It's not that there aren't excuses, galore, but we can pass appropriations bill, the spending bills, the 12 spending bills to run government in the next year, not because the Senate will check off and President Biden will sign them, but because that's how you set forth a vision and show voters, if they are faithful, that we'll be faithful.
00:04:41.000 This is what we will do.
00:04:42.000 Let's continue with the Matt Gates-Maria dialogue, play cut 49.
00:04:46.000 None of those things are deliverables.
00:04:48.000 Those are steps in a process.
00:04:50.000 Setting up a committee is an end unto itself only in Washington, D.C.
00:04:55.000 The American people demand results.
00:04:57.000 Hold on, I think.
00:04:57.000 These committees, okay, go ahead.
00:04:59.000 These committees have done nothing to reduce inflation.
00:05:02.000 They've done nothing to actually constrain the Biden government.
00:05:05.000 We can set up committees and have hearings and yell at people, but at the end of the day, if we still send the check to fund a weaponized government, having a weaponization subcommittee is little relief to the American people.
00:05:17.000 And if any of this was serious, we would be sending out subpoenas and compelling process the way the January 6th committee did.
00:05:25.000 We should be operating like them instead. 0.97
00:05:27.000 We're playing patty cake with the Bidens.
00:05:29.000 We're allowing them to get away with it.
00:05:31.000 And we're funding it.
00:05:32.000 We're sending the money.
00:05:33.000 If we were serious, use the power of the purse.
00:05:36.000 Okay, so, Congressman, there is this issue then of moderate Republicans saying they're going to team up with Democrats for quote-unquote CR.
00:05:47.000 Is that likely?
00:05:49.000 Charlie, I think it would be a suicide for any of them to do that.
00:05:54.000 They'll lose.
00:05:55.000 Everyone who joins in that will lose his or her next election in a primary or a general.
00:06:00.000 If they believe that's the way to go, there's nothing that I can do to stop them.
00:06:04.000 They've threatened it repeatedly, and perhaps they will.
00:06:07.000 And Charlie, let me say this.
00:06:08.000 I know that it's tough for loyal Republicans, people who want to see change, to see a dissension among Republicans.
00:06:17.000 The one thing I can say that would be worse than that is to see all Republicans linking arms in front of the theater that keeps being performed so that no voter knows where to go to try to make something change in Washington.
00:06:30.000 Those who want to see change have to see fighters pursuing that.
00:06:36.000 And if someone decides to betray the Republican Party, better that the Republican voter know who it is.
00:06:42.000 I totally agree.
00:06:43.000 And I'll just be honest, Congressman, I think it's time to say we need to defund Jack Smith, get what we need for the border, and not paperwork people for the border, okay?
00:06:52.000 Matt Gates also made this point.
00:06:54.000 Here's where Biden will hoodwink us, okay?
00:06:57.000 So Biden will say, okay, here's $10 billion for the border.
00:06:59.000 And then you read it, it's going to be a bunch of TSA agents to allow the entry of illegals.
00:07:04.000 No, no, no, no.
00:07:05.000 We need border security, not illegal border jumping facilitation, Congressman Bishop.
00:07:10.000 They will process them in faster.
00:07:12.000 That's how that money would be used.
00:07:14.000 And you're right.
00:07:14.000 And then they'll send a bunch of money to New York, which will be essentially welfare payments or to buy some more hotels to house illegals.
00:07:20.000 That's not the answer.
00:07:21.000 And we need to have the courage to say so.
00:07:24.000 That's right.
00:07:24.000 So let's just kind of get into the details here.
00:07:27.000 You say you're passing four appropriation bills.
00:07:30.000 Does that mean you're breaking the idea of a CR into different buckets?
00:07:34.000 It's a little wonky even for me.
00:07:36.000 Can you walk through that, please?
00:07:38.000 It is, you know, the CR is the break the glass thing when you can't get your spending bills done.
00:07:45.000 As Matt says, what the lobbyist crowd want to do every year is force this into exactly this position.
00:07:50.000 You get to the deadline.
00:07:51.000 You can't do it.
00:07:52.000 So you do a continuing resolution for old spending, Nancy Pelosi spending, move the deadline out of another 30 days.
00:07:58.000 Then you'll do another one.
00:07:59.000 Then you'll get a handful of days before Christmas and they'll do a monster omnibus appropriations bill in which you get a yes or no vote on government, period.
00:08:08.000 No opportunity to change anything in any of these agencies.
00:08:12.000 12 separate bills governed where you have defense, ag, state and foreign operations.
00:08:20.000 The third one slipping on my, oh, this third one is DHS.
00:08:23.000 Those move on the floor this week.
00:08:25.000 Those should have been done.
00:08:26.000 They've been ready since June, Charlie.
00:08:28.000 They should have been on the floor.
00:08:29.000 We've had some problems in agreement on spending level and whether there are going to be any actual cuts in the Republican conference.
00:08:35.000 But when we can break through that, when we have a meeting and talk about it, it should have been done.
00:08:39.000 It's basic leadership and improves your competence.
00:08:43.000 And look, I'm of the opinion, look, you have to be willing to shut it down.
00:08:46.000 Otherwise, they control you.
00:08:48.000 We shouldn't delight in that.
00:08:49.000 We shouldn't rejoice in it.
00:08:52.000 We lived through the longest government shutdown ever with Donald Trump and Chuck Schumer over immigration.
00:08:57.000 And honestly, I was all there for it.
00:08:59.000 This doesn't have to be an extended, you know, long period of time thing.
00:09:02.000 But look, if you are so afraid of, let's say, a week shutdown or a week and a half shutdown, then you aren't negotiating.
00:09:11.000 You're a hostage.
00:09:13.000 So are you a negotiator?
00:09:14.000 Exactly right.
00:09:15.000 Or are you a hostage?
00:09:16.000 But yeah, please finish that up because I think that's the proper framing right now.
00:09:21.000 It's exactly right.
00:09:22.000 We have this essential argument inside the Republican conference and people will say, we have to show we can govern so that we can be getting support, not only to control the House, we've got to control the Senate, we've got to control the White House for a decade.
00:09:34.000 And my answer is, if all you can do is surrender every year since the 90s, you are not possibly going to gain enough confidence from the voter to believe that you should have that scale of control.
00:09:45.000 You've got to be willing to fight them out.
00:09:47.000 You've got to be willing to do what is necessary to make progress.
00:09:51.000 That requires negotiations.
00:09:52.000 It requires sticking to your side in negotiations and winning.
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00:11:44.000 So, Congressman, look, I got to be honest, you're doing a great job.
00:11:48.000 Everyone's fighting hard here.
00:11:50.000 But the fiscal hawks, I'd say the Freedom Caucus, we can't even get agreement amongst the rank and file of the Freedom Caucus.
00:11:57.000 Is that getting sorted out?
00:11:58.000 Because I got Byron over here and Chiproy over there and Matt Gates over here and Marjorie Taylor Green.
00:12:04.000 We need a Freedom Caucus United.
00:12:06.000 What's going on here?
00:12:08.000 So that's a fair point, Charlie.
00:12:09.000 And I think we are on the same playbook currently.
00:12:14.000 That is to say, this week we pass appropriations bills.
00:12:18.000 And Chiproy's been killing himself getting the rules.
00:12:21.000 The rule that will, the single rule that will bring in four bills to the floor at one time for amending and then final votes on each one, a lot of detail to that.
00:12:30.000 He's been working hard on it.
00:12:32.000 What we do at the end of the week and whether or not we move a CR or continue with having passed budgets to appropriations bills to cover 73% of the discretionary spending of the bureaucracy, whether that we go and do a short-term CR to get to the rest of it or not, that's going to be the open issue on which there's still uncertainty.
00:12:52.000 But the reason this happens, Charlie, the reason people get in greater disarray and some say, wow, we've just now got to give up.
00:13:00.000 And some say, wait, what the hell?
00:13:02.000 We're not giving up is because the dearth of leadership has left the basic work of a Republican majority undone for nine months.
00:13:12.000 So you're not going to be a magic bullet fix to get there to get everything to work right.
00:13:17.000 But what I say is, unless we get business going the way it's supposed to and move it through, you can't retain people's confidence.
00:13:26.000 And by the way, the border crisis that is affecting New York, we're not going to create that as an issue by what we do in Congress.
00:13:34.000 It's an issue all on its own.
00:13:36.000 And the Homeland Security bill should address it.
00:13:39.000 100%.
00:13:39.000 And so is there a path here where the moderates want a clean CR?
00:13:43.000 We want all these different cuts.
00:13:45.000 Say, okay, you get one for two weeks.
00:13:47.000 We're going to keep negotiating.
00:13:48.000 Therefore, you keep the quote-unquote government open.
00:13:51.000 Is that something that's being entertained?
00:13:52.000 Because, again, that doesn't structurally solve the problem, but it also will quell the chattering from these good-for-nothing moderates to get them back to the table saying, look, we'll do this a week or two at a time, but we're going to get to a place where we cut funding, where we cut spending, Congressman.
00:14:10.000 As far as I am concerned, maybe so, Charlie, but there are several who say, no, once you're on the continuing resolution slippery slope, they'll be one after another until Christmas.
00:14:21.000 It'll provide the excuse that those handful of so-called moderates need to join in with the Democrats and do it until we get to Christmas.
00:14:30.000 So it's a very hard call, and we're going to see.
00:14:34.000 But I think the bright spot is we're going to move appropriations bills on the floor this week.
00:14:40.000 That's what we're supposed to do.
00:14:41.000 Let's prove we can do it.
00:14:43.000 And I think there is agreement even across the conference on that.
00:14:47.000 Every time the pressure lets up, every time the gun is pulled away from the head of leadership, things seem to stop.
00:14:53.000 But right now, that is the plan.
00:14:55.000 It's going to happen.
00:14:57.000 And we'll see it play out.
00:14:59.000 Yeah, look, I get the argument that once we get on the CR train, but you can always have the power to stop that.
00:15:06.000 If there needs to be, so look, I'm in the path that if we have to shut it down, shut it down.
00:15:10.000 But I would rather give a two-week extension than to have a 18-month extension where the Democrats and moderates combine together, right?
00:15:17.000 I concur with that, Charlie.
00:15:19.000 That is my position as well.
00:15:20.000 Yeah.
00:15:20.000 And so, just in closing, the top priorities for you guys that are negotiating, border weaponization of DOJ.
00:15:27.000 And then where does Ukraine come into this?
00:15:29.000 Because Speaker McCarthy has been on both sides of that in the last 72 hours.
00:15:34.000 Another problem.
00:15:35.000 Exactly.
00:15:35.000 So he said he's going to take that out as a separate issue because Marjorie Taylor Greene is, you know, I've been on the same position as Marjorie and my other conservatives all along that that is something which should not be happening.
00:15:46.000 Now, when you talk about Republicans getting along, I'm willing to set that issue aside and pass the defense appropriations bill as long as we're passing appropriations bills.
00:15:54.000 Marjorie said appropriately, it doesn't belong in there.
00:15:57.000 I hope she sticks to her guns.
00:15:59.000 But so far, leadership hasn't resulted.
00:16:02.000 And we'll see.
00:16:03.000 But I do think it's important that appropriations bill is where all is the other three move this week.
00:16:08.000 Well, yeah.
00:16:08.000 And the argument once you introduce a 30-day extension is it works actually against the moderates, which actually might put them to a table because they say, well, this might hurt us in reelection.
00:16:19.000 Well, yeah, if you don't get a deal done and it keeps going, you're getting closer and closer to reelection.
00:16:23.000 So get a deal done.
00:16:24.000 Vote on something, right?
00:16:26.000 Put something on, put send something to the Senate.
00:16:30.000 You got to send something.
00:16:31.000 Look, Charlie, they've been for it.
00:16:34.000 Nothing's happened other than this, continuing resolutions and omnibus appropriations bills for the last 25 years.
00:16:40.000 So those who say that's the way to go, I mean, there's some people who believe that.
00:16:44.000 But I'm telling you, I'm telling all of your viewers and listeners, it's evident to me that Republicans are drifting downward and that the people are very impatient and expect them to show a distinctive and different direction.
00:16:59.000 And this is what it comes down to.
00:17:01.000 A lot of people would say, well, don't bother me about 12 spending bills.
00:17:04.000 Why do I care about that?
00:17:05.000 What they'll see is competence, performance.
00:17:08.000 And that then becomes the body that can perform going forward.
00:17:12.000 Hold the line.
00:17:13.000 I'm not afraid of a shutdown.
00:17:14.000 But instead of an 18-month CR, we'd do a 30-day extension.
00:17:18.000 I think that's reasonable.
00:17:18.000 Congressman Bishop, thank you.
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00:19:36.000 Charlie, thank you so much.
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00:19:49.000 Breitbart has done some of the most comprehensive and courageous reporting on the border for well over a decade and a half almost now.
00:19:58.000 It feels like it's been 14, 15 years.
00:20:01.000 How bad is it now, Alex, versus even six or seven years ago when you guys were sounding the alarm?
00:20:08.000 Yeah, this is one thing that's been, in a way, very heartening in the sense that conservative media has really understood this to be a major issue.
00:20:17.000 Charlie, back when you were probably in middle school sometime in about 2014 or so, people did not understand that this is an existential threat to America, the fact that we have an open border.
00:20:30.000 And the good news is that now we do.
00:20:32.000 And the Republican Party, which used to be a purely open borders party, is now the voters get it.
00:20:38.000 The voters understand that we need to secure the border that needs to be a top-tier issue, if not the number one issue in the country.
00:20:45.000 But unfortunately, the donor class plus the entirety of the Democrat establishment all want the borders as open as possible.
00:20:52.000 And periodically, we just see this come up in the news, and it just boggles the mind that we can't get people on board for actually having a border.
00:21:01.000 Charlie, if we were fighting for a border in Ukraine against Russia, then all of a sudden everyone's really interested.
00:21:05.000 But our southern border, yeah, it's all of a sudden you can't get people's attention.
00:21:09.000 So just from a volume of people, they're saying 8,500 people in one day in Eagle Pass, Texas.
00:21:16.000 Is it fair to say, Alex, that the current administration is facilitating the entry of these people into the country, not trying to repel them?
00:21:27.000 Oh, yeah.
00:21:28.000 No, they've made it clear.
00:21:29.000 In fact, that they have exact language.
00:21:32.000 Biden is actually justified making it easy to get people into the country.
00:21:37.000 We're significantly expanding legal pathways to entry so businesses can get the workers they need.
00:21:43.000 Do businesses need more workers right now, Charlie?
00:21:46.000 No, the unemployment rate is in is probably too low at the moment.
00:21:50.000 And the Fed has been trying to deal with this.
00:21:52.000 And it's part of the reason why we're having this massive inflation is that we have all these people in the country that are already working super low-paying jobs.
00:21:59.000 And we don't need more competition imported.
00:22:02.000 And yet the Biden administration is specifically stating that that's part of their goal.
00:22:07.000 So they're even being open about it at this point, that they want more people in and they want to get them in as fast as possible.
00:22:12.000 And remember, the people showing up, they don't think of themselves as illegal aliens.
00:22:15.000 They think of themselves as migrants who are going to try for asylum.
00:22:19.000 They're going to get caught and released into the country, catch and release, as Trump has been known to say.
00:22:23.000 They go into the country and then they're essentially legal until their court date comes up, which they will inevitably miss. 0.85
00:22:29.000 And then they'll become illegal.
00:22:30.000 But they get in by any means necessary, start making money and sending it back to their countries. 0.93
00:22:35.000 Play cut 26.
00:22:36.000 Biden is celebrating this, saying that over one out of four of young kids in America are speaking Spanish, not English.
00:22:43.000 Play Cut 56.
00:22:44.000 We're going to make it clear, as we have here tonight, during Hispanic Heritage Month's Hispanic Heritage in America is American heritage.
00:22:54.000 That's what it is.
00:22:57.000 Now, think about it, folks.
00:22:58.000 I'm not trying to just be nice.
00:23:00.000 Be simple.
00:23:02.000 26.
00:23:04.000 Every 100 children in grade school from kindergarten through high school come from Spanish-speaking homes.
00:23:11.000 26.
00:23:12.000 Alex Marlowe.
00:23:13.000 I'm all for learning a lot of languages.
00:23:15.000 Our friend Dennis Brager brags about knowing five languages.
00:23:19.000 I love that.
00:23:19.000 I'm teaching my kids multiple languages.
00:23:22.000 My wife's multilingual.
00:23:23.000 I'm teaching my kids Spanish because we live just north of LA.
00:23:26.000 Charlie, we need a national language.
00:23:27.000 It needs to be English.
00:23:28.000 You cannot thrive in this country without English. 1.00
00:23:30.000 And if you want to create a path for people to have a culture, it's start to the language.
00:23:36.000 And it's great if you know multiple languages, but to play up that we're learning Spanish, we know that is to undermine learning English very well, which last I checked. 0.99
00:23:44.000 I don't think we're doing very well in the English department these days.
00:23:47.000 No, and I mean, our original documents, our founding documents are in English.
00:23:52.000 And if you do not have the language, which is the medium to tie people together, then you are a nation of strangers by definition.
00:24:01.000 You can't communicate.
00:24:02.000 There's barriers to commonality.
00:24:05.000 And Joe Biden is celebrating that, saying that that is American heritage.
00:24:09.000 Let's go here.
00:24:09.000 Alex, you're a smart guy.
00:24:10.000 You can help make sense of what the gay Jat GPT guy says. 0.69
00:24:15.000 Play cut two. 0.66
00:24:16.000 Was the Biden administration caught off guard by this latest surge of migrants? 0.99
00:24:20.000 What you saw was the administration, as always, responding as needed to conditions, being proactive where necessary.
00:24:27.000 Were you caught off guard, though?
00:24:29.000 Look, the president did what needed to be done.
00:24:32.000 And often that involves a rapid response, like the rapid response that this administration directed.
00:24:38.000 It's chat GPT, Alex.
00:24:40.000 And I need to get a transcript of that where he says, I wrote it down earlier when I was on Megan Kelly's show.
00:24:46.000 He had the conditions proactive to respond to the rapid response to get things done.
00:24:52.000 Alex Marlowe.
00:24:54.000 Yeah, that is.
00:24:55.000 It's just, he's really good at parroting with the talking points.
00:24:58.000 Look, Pete's a BSer.
00:24:59.000 He's the ultimate BSer, and he's in an administration that rewards BSers. 0.84
00:25:04.000 It's a, if you want to rise to the Biden administration, just prove you're the best at BSing.
00:25:08.000 And our media loves it.
00:25:09.000 Our media can't get enough of this guy.
00:25:10.000 Do you remember that wired profile that said he's got a cathedral mind?
00:25:14.000 I think it was Wired.
00:25:15.000 Yes.
00:25:15.000 He's got a cathedral mind.
00:25:16.000 He was lending time to the journalist.
00:25:19.000 He should have been reading the Iliad is what he would have liked to have been doing instead of doing the interview.
00:25:24.000 Which I look, I'm all for reading the Iliad, but he's supposed to be working on roads and bridges and trains.
00:25:29.000 We've never trained a railman, I think, just this week, Charlie.
00:25:31.000 It's just the guy is an empty suit, the definition of it.
00:25:35.000 But I have to say, that is a quotable quote, if there ever was one.
00:25:39.000 So let's talk about the border from this perspective, Alex.
00:25:42.000 I was just in Texas, in Hill Country, Texas, and they are very, very fired up that Greg Abbott is not doing nearly enough to secure the border.
00:25:53.000 So talk about states because now states are going to have to become the place where the rubber meets the road for the border in the short term.
00:26:03.000 There's only one out of four border states that is controlled by Republicans.
00:26:09.000 What else can Greg Abbott do to at least repel the invasion happening in Texas?
00:26:16.000 You know, it's interesting because I asked JD Vance about this when I was hosting for you, Charlie, when you were on vacation a few months ago.
00:26:23.000 And I asked him if Ohio is a border state, and he immediately said yes.
00:26:26.000 And that's the mentality that everyone needs to have in this country is that we're all border states.
00:26:30.000 Just ask New York right now, where they're talking about now bringing the National Guard.
00:26:35.000 Mayor Adams looks like he has no idea what's going on, that he thought that you could just get away with declaring yourself sanctuary city and not having to deal with illegal aliens.
00:26:44.000 But Republicans in the House are, they have an opportunity to do this because they can use the power of the first to try to negotiate an end to catch and release.
00:26:54.000 And I think that that would be the start.
00:26:56.000 So I think they've got to hold firm on that.
00:26:58.000 Catch and release has to end in the next budget, or else we're going to continue to see a surge.
00:27:04.000 But in the meantime, states need to do whatever they can short of acts of violence, which are, of course, wrong, but also are used politically against our side.
00:27:14.000 But they need to do whatever they can to get resources down there and to make this the biggest media circus they can.
00:27:21.000 And that's why the busing was so good and the flying planes of people in Migrants' Vineyard. 0.58
00:27:25.000 All of that has to be done, every tactic necessary in order to draw attention to this issue.
00:27:31.000 But what they're getting, what they're seeing, which I'm encouraged by, is they're understanding the humanitarian element of this and they're understanding that this is suppressing Americans' wages and it's suppressing Americans' lifestyles.
00:27:42.000 And once that happens, once that comes through, it's going to be a universal issue on the right.
00:27:46.000 And a lot of Democrats who are facing reelection, they're going to see that as an issue that's going to be a threat to their careers.
00:27:53.000 So let's talk about the budget fight then with immigration.
00:27:55.000 You've been covering this for a while, you know, Breitbart News, DC.
00:28:00.000 What wisdom can you give, Alex, from covering shutdowns before, covering DC negotiations and asking for the order?
00:28:08.000 So walk through that because Republicans, it's a Chinese fire drill, as I said with Congressman Dan Bishop.
00:28:13.000 It's a disaster, right?
00:28:14.000 You got MTG over here and Byron Donalds, everyone.
00:28:18.000 It's a catastrophe.
00:28:19.000 So Alex, focusing on border, and a looming government shutdown, how should we think about this?
00:28:27.000 And tactically, what wisdom can you share?
00:28:29.000 Yeah, I'm very negative in general on these shutdown fights.
00:28:33.000 We've seen them.
00:28:35.000 And if you might recall the one where Trump, the government shut down because Trump wanted, I think it was $5 billion for the border wall.
00:28:43.000 And he wouldn't budget it.
00:28:44.000 The Republicans wouldn't budget it.
00:28:46.000 And then the government shut down.
00:28:47.000 And he didn't end up getting what he wanted.
00:28:50.000 And the Republicans still got blamed for the whole thing.
00:28:53.000 And the media establishment will never let the Republicans get away with any sort of a shutdown.
00:28:58.000 They always love this.
00:29:00.000 And I think right now, I don't see how it plays out, but I'm all for me personally.
00:29:07.000 I don't think shutdowns work out well for Republicans in general.
00:29:10.000 But as a news person, I love seeing the food fight.
00:29:13.000 I love seeing people go at each other and declare what's important to them on the right and have it out.
00:29:18.000 I've always thrived in that environment as editor of Breitbart.
00:29:21.000 But I do have bad news for the people who are sort of rooting for a shutdown that it usually doesn't work out.
00:29:26.000 I wish it did sometimes, but it usually doesn't.
00:29:28.000 And this is one thing that I don't think it's going to be any different this time around if we get to that point.
00:29:33.000 So then tactically from doing this for over a decade and really covering it, Alex, how should the Republicans then approach this?
00:29:39.000 And how do we then get Democrats to the table to get some form of a victory?
00:29:44.000 I think if you're wanting to bring Democrats to the table, you've got to isolate those people who if the polls are what they are, and regardless of cheap by mail, regardless of now, you know, the automatic voter registrations that are popping up that are going to be massive, massive advantages for Democrats.
00:29:59.000 You've got to isolate the ones who you think are going to lose with this map and try to bring them along.
00:30:05.000 Try to get them to be, try to get them to the horse trade.
00:30:11.000 And that's what these things come down to.
00:30:12.000 I wish it wasn't like that, Charlie, and I rail on this in Breaking Biden about how these omnibus packages we have, these massive spending cuts where we're negotiating every last thing for salmon fishermen at the same time we're talking about defense.
00:30:25.000 It's absurd, but it is the way the current system operates.
00:30:28.000 So you've got to get to these people because the Republicans have a lot of power in the current House environment.
00:30:33.000 And if they don't deliver some major victories, the constituents have a right to be very mad.
00:30:38.000 Alex Marlow, Breaking Biden is the book.
00:30:41.000 That's what we're going to do next week.
00:30:43.000 But also check out Breitbart News and Breitbart News.
00:30:46.000 I'll just say Breitbart.
00:30:47.000 I was going to say Breitbart News Daily, but I'll just say Breitbart News.
00:30:49.000 And we'll keep it there.
00:30:51.000 Is that correct, Alex?
00:30:52.000 We'll plug the book.
00:30:53.000 How about that?
00:30:54.000 Yeah, that's great.
00:30:54.000 Breitbart News Daily is a great show, but I don't host it anymore.
00:30:57.000 So breitbart.com is the best thing you could do to help me out is to head over there.
00:31:02.000 So Alex, the border is a major issue.
00:31:04.000 I want to talk about just your reaction to this polling that came out over the weekend.
00:31:09.000 It kind of segues to your book, Breaking Biden, which I want to keep teasing because next week we're really going to build out.
00:31:15.000 But it says that Joe Biden is down 10 points to Donald Trump.
00:31:20.000 I don't believe that.
00:31:22.000 Alex Marlow, your response.
00:31:24.000 No, I don't believe it either.
00:31:26.000 I don't know if that poll is just an outlier, but certainly conservatives cannot act as though that is the reality because we know about cheap by mails, we've talked about a lot.
00:31:38.000 We know about the game of getting ballots in a ballot box with Charlie, as you've talked about as well as anyone.
00:31:43.000 And then now they're doing these things like adding the automatic voter registration in more areas.
00:31:48.000 Republicans have an uphill climb, though it does seem that if you compare the polling to 2020 and 2016 overall, Trump is looking more favorable.
00:31:58.000 And a couple of key issues, particularly the Biden inflation and particularly migration, as we just talked about, Republicans have the more and Trump in particular has the more favored position.
00:32:08.000 So I think there's a lot of bright spots here.
00:32:10.000 But if anyone is thinking that Trump is cakewalking right now, I think they're very, very much more optimistic than I am.
00:32:18.000 Yeah, and it's going to come down to the boring stuff in all of the key states, ballot chasing, voter registration, signature verification thresholds.
00:32:26.000 Let's play some tape here.
00:32:27.000 Let's go to cut 27, please.
00:32:29.000 We found an enthusiasm gap between the two parties.
00:32:32.000 We ask folks on a scale of one to 10, how enthusiastic are you about the presidential election?
00:32:38.000 And you can see Republican to Democrat, there is a gap right there.
00:32:41.000 Where's the lag for Democrats?
00:32:43.000 We found a couple places.
00:32:44.000 Non-white voters, you could see significantly less enthusiastic than white voters.
00:32:49.000 And then how about this age gap?
00:32:51.000 The youngest group of voters who Democrats have been trying to get excited and motivated, a 50-point, nearly 50-point gap there.
00:32:59.000 So really an uphill battle to try to make sure voters don't stay home if you're Democrats.
00:33:03.000 Yeah.
00:33:04.000 So Alex, this used to be a thing, but it's a little bit of a distraction because of voting month and mail-in voting and their machinery.
00:33:11.000 Voter enthusiasm is not as important as it used to be.
00:33:14.000 It used to be when we had voting in our nation to show up at a polling place and to register.
00:33:20.000 Now it really has, it's not a major bearing.
00:33:23.000 Explain that.
00:33:25.000 Yeah, you and I are exactly on the same page as this, Charlie.
00:33:28.000 We had events last year in 2020 or last election where people literally didn't show up at all.
00:33:34.000 There was no people at one event, I think it was in Arizona for Biden and Harris.
00:33:38.000 Not a single person showed up.
00:33:39.000 And he still got, you know, supposedly 81 million votes.
00:33:43.000 So it is at least he tallied 81 million votes.
00:33:46.000 So the point is, is that a very unenthusiastic voter counts exactly as much as a super enthusiastic voter.
00:33:52.000 So the name of the game is raw numbers, not as enthusiasm.
00:33:56.000 But that said, it's not a bad sign overall in terms of the culture.
00:34:00.000 And I think when people realize, when people have breaken down for them what Biden has done to their lives personally, minority voters in particular, that he's got a long history of racism, that he has not helped minority communities.
00:34:13.000 I do think that their enthusiasm is going to fall off a lot even more than already is.
00:34:17.000 That's all positive.
00:34:18.000 You look at immigration, you look at the Biden inflation, independents and Democrats are not buying what Biden is selling.
00:34:24.000 That's great news.
00:34:25.000 But ultimately, the name of the game is really those unenthusiastic voters.
00:34:29.000 Can Republicans bridge the gap?
00:34:31.000 The Democrats have killed us on the unenthusiastic voters. 0.62
00:34:35.000 That's exactly who drives them to victories.
00:34:37.000 Alex Marlowe, we have you on next week for Breaking Biden, the book.
00:34:41.000 And also check out Breitbart.com.
00:34:43.000 Looking forward to it.
00:34:43.000 Alex, thanks so much.
00:34:44.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:34:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:46.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:49.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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