The Charlie Kirk Show - Wars and Rumors of Wars

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00:00:07.000 We talk about the drums of war beating loudly in Washington and in Jerusalem as it appears that a strike against Iran could be imminent.

00:00:20.000 And what would that mean for the country?

00:00:26.000 Pray for peace, everybody.

00:00:27.000 We have Jack Posobiec.

00:00:28.000 We break down the situation, what we know currently.

00:00:31.000 And we have Chip Roy in to respond to the riots in Los Angeles, what that could mean for Texas.

00:00:36.000 Why are Democrats always on the losing side of 60, 40, 70, 30, 80, 20 issues?

00:00:41.000 And we talk about the prospects of the big, beautiful bill.

00:00:44.000 And then I give you my summation, my take on the Iranian conflict.

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00:02:15.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:17.000 Andrew Colvett in for the one and only Charlie Kirk.

00:02:20.000 Charlie's on assignment today.

00:02:21.000 Lots of news happening.

00:02:23.000 I would be remiss if we didn't mention the victims of the Air India crash.

00:02:29.000 787-8 Dreamliner Boeing crashed immediately after takeoff.

00:02:37.000 It was headed to London.

00:02:39.000 242 people were aboard.

00:02:42.000 52 British nationals.

00:02:44.000 It looks like there may have been one lone survivor.

00:02:47.000 Some of the reports are mixed there, but our hearts and our prayers do go out to the victims of that tragedy.

00:02:54.000 Absolutely incredible story if that is ultimately confirmed of the one lone survivor.

00:03:00.000 We're hearing reports that he jumped out of an exit door.

00:03:04.000 He was seated toward the front.

00:03:06.000 Truly remarkable if it ends up getting confirmed.

00:03:09.000 So our hearts and prayers go out to him.

00:03:11.000 To the victims and all their families headed to London.

00:03:17.000 Pretty remarkable.

00:03:17.000 I do want to get to, I believe, what is the main story right now.

00:03:23.000 Trump is in the Oval Office.

00:03:24.000 He has just signed three pieces of three House resolutions banning the EV mandate out of California.

00:03:30.000 The main news is, of course, the developments in the Middle East.

00:03:38.000 I wanted to bring in Jack Posobiec.

00:03:41.000 He is the host of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec on Real America's Voice.

00:03:45.000 Jack, welcome to the show.

00:03:47.000 There's so much to unpack here with what's going on in Iran.

00:03:52.000 I mean, it started yesterday.

00:03:53.000 We were getting reports that embassy staff, non-essential personnel out of Bahrain, Baghdad, Kuwait were getting moved out, evacuated essentially out of the region.

00:04:05.000 Drums of War certainly seem to be beating Jack Posobiec.

00:04:09.000 What is the latest out of the Middle East?

00:04:11.000 Look, you know, as a prior Navy intelligence officer, when things like this go down, it's obviously something that my hearts and prayers always go out to any of the U.S. service members, and in many cases their families, and also that includes contractors and their families.

00:04:27.000 People think that, you know, at these bases that they'll say, okay, and President Trump graciously retweeted me yesterday when I said we have more troops in L.A. than we do in Iraq and Syria right now, which is actually true if you count number by number.

00:04:41.000 But in the U.S., Military presence that we currently have in the Middle East writ large, that it's actually quite stronger than that.

00:04:50.000 So we have troops in Kuwait, we have troops in Bahrain, we have troops in Qatar, the UAE, we have troops in Jordan, we have troops in Saudi.

00:04:57.000 We do obviously have troops in Iraq and Syria still, though not as many as during the active combat operations.

00:05:04.000 Turkey, Djibouti, and all across our naval task forces, including the USS Harry Truman, the USS Carl Vinson, both aircraft carriers.

00:05:13.000 Then you've also got those at least six B-2 strategic bombers down at Diego Garcia Air Base.

00:05:20.000 Now, that's in the Indian Ocean, but because of their long-range capabilities, they have the ability to strike Iran. 0.93

00:05:26.000 They have ability to strike deep into CENTCOM.

00:05:29.000 They're supporting, could support CENTCOM operations.

00:05:31.000 That's why a lot of people think that those long-range bombers were placed there.

00:05:35.000 So what we're seeing is this drumbeat of...

00:05:42.000 NBC reporting that Israel is planning to take strikes on Iran with potentially the backing of the United States and the U.S. doesn't directly take part in them.

00:05:55.000 though of course the question is if iran were to retaliate there is all these targets and all of this u.s equipment personnel in the region the other side is And Steve Witkoff currently is also set to continue his meetings with the Iranians later this weekend.

00:06:12.000 That's going to be in Oman.

00:06:13.000 And Oman has confirmed that the next round of U.S.-Iran nuclear talks will take place, looks like this Sunday.

00:06:22.000 So either a strike is imminent from Israel.

00:06:25.000 Israel is signaling to the United States and to the world that it wants to move forward.

00:06:31.000 President Trump, to his credit on this, has rebuffed Israel.

00:06:35.000 Actually, he did it in April, once again in May.

00:06:39.000 What is the urgency here, though, Jack?

00:06:41.000 I mean, there's reports that Iran may already have enough nuclear fuel material to create 10. Those are the reports that we're hearing.

00:06:56.000 Is there any other indication that we know what's forcing this urgency from Israel?

00:07:02.000 Well, those reports have been coming out for quite some time, but the IC assessment has still and does remain that the program for enriching that nuclear capacity towards weaponized uranium and weaponized nuclear material has been ceased.

00:07:19.000 And that has been the IC assessment for years at this point.

00:07:22.000 And obviously, this being the real question of the debates and these discussions in the negotiations themselves, the diplomacy is all about this.

00:07:31.000 In fact, the Guardian had a piece a couple of weeks ago that there was an idea floated by, and it wasn't clear if the US floated it or Iran floated it directly, that perhaps, as we know, there are Negotiations concurrently happening with Russia vis-a-vis Ukraine.

00:07:47.000 So the question is that if it were the Russians, who, of course, as people know the history, were the ones who came in and finished the building of that Bushir nuclear power plant in Iran, that perhaps the Russians could be the ones to come in and become the guarantors.

00:08:04.000 That this enrichment, which is something that Obama never got, Obama never had any of this, and his was certainly not a permanent agreement at all, that perhaps it was something that the U.S. and Russia could work on together to triangulate on Iran, because, of course, they would not have a nuclear program were it not for the Russians. 0.66

00:08:21.000 You tie that piece to the Ukrainian negotiations at the same time, and this presents Trump and Witkoff perhaps with a grand strategy that they're working on.

00:08:33.000 And so this pressure that's being put on this essentially is because Iran has been degraded.

00:08:40.000 They just lost Syria.

00:08:41.000 They lost a key ally, of course, in Assad.

00:08:44.000 The Shia militia groups have really been drawn down there.

00:08:47.000 And so the idea is that because they are in a degraded state, because their losses, Hamas, Hezbollah, et cetera, losses that have gone on over the past year, that perhaps they wouldn't be able to strike back with the force that they normally would be able to bring to bear, say, 12 months ago.

00:09:02.000 Yeah, I mean, Hezbollah and Hamas obviously have been massively degraded, and that was oftentimes the levers that the Iranians would pull to exert casualties, damages against Israel. 0.74

00:09:17.000 I want to play this clip from President Trump.

00:09:19.000 He went on with Miranda Devine, and he's definitely signaling more negativity as opposed to positivity.

00:09:27.000 Now, again, he rebuffed Benjamin Netanyahu's request for assistance in April and May because negotiations were ongoing.

00:09:36.000 He felt that there was positive momentum.

00:09:38.000 Let's go ahead and play 476.

00:09:45.000 They're not going to have a nuclear weapon, so it's not going to matter from that standpoint.

00:09:49.000 But it would be nicer to do it without warfare, without people dying.

00:09:54.000 It's so much nicer to do it.

00:09:56.000 But I don't think I see the same level of integrity I think they would make a mistake, but we'll see.

00:10:05.000 I guess time will tell.

00:10:07.000 And again, Jack Posobiec last night at the Kennedy Center, he was asked about Iran.

00:10:12.000 Similar tone, 468.

00:10:14.000 Could you provide an update on Iran?

00:10:16.000 We're hearing reports that U.S. personnel are being moved out of the region within striking distance.

00:10:21.000 Well, they are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place, and we'll see what happens.

00:10:26.000 But they are, and we've given notice.

00:10:29.000 Is there anything that could be done to dial the temperature down in the region?

00:10:33.000 They can't have a nuclear weapon.

00:10:35.000 Very simply.

00:10:36.000 They can't have a nuclear weapon.

00:10:38.000 We're not going to allow that.

00:10:40.000 So Trump is saying they can't have a nuclear weapon.

00:10:43.000 This is what Bibi Netanyahu's been saying, Israel's been saying.

00:10:46.000 There is a push in this.

00:10:49.000 They believe, Israel believes, according to reports, that there is a limited window where Iran is still vulnerable and these nuclear... 0.85

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00:12:03.000 So Jack, I have really two questions.

00:12:06.000 Do you believe that the U.S. is going to be involved in these?

00:12:12.000 Airstrikes, is there an option where Israel goes it alone? 0.82

00:12:15.000 And secondly, and it's a bigger conversation, but is MAGA behind this?

00:12:21.000 Is Trump's base of support going to be behind something as kinetic as an active military operation against Iran?

00:12:30.000 Well, Andrew, essentially what you're talking about here is a proxy war, and this would be viewed in the Middle East largely as a proxy war, the same way that Ukraine is currently viewed as a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia.

00:12:43.000 This is why negotiations directly between Ukraine and Russia have stalled out, because everyone knows that it's really the U.S. that's been supporting Ukraine all this time, and that's why it's not going to end until we've seen the negotiations stall.

00:12:58.000 We try to go to Zelensky, Zelensky tries to go to Russia.

00:13:00.000 It always falls apart.

00:13:02.000 Because everyone knows it's got to come down between Trump and Putin for that negotiation to end.

00:13:07.000 Because it is a proxy war.

00:13:08.000 It was not started by President Trump, but it certainly is a proxy war nonetheless.

00:13:11.000 This would also, I believe, be viewed in the same lens as a proxy war with Israel acting as that proxy and then creating a situation where the U.S. would be blamed.

00:13:23.000 The only difference being, of course, that the U.S. has so many forces that are directly, as I just outlined, Now, you've also got the massive other corollary of the price of oil.

00:13:47.000 The opening days of the Ukraine-Russia war, well, and the U.S. at that time barely bought any oil from Russia, certainly still doesn't.

00:13:56.000 Right now, J.P. Morgan is projecting that the price of oil would double, of a barrel of oil would double if an Iraq war, or excuse me, an Iran war would break out, potential Strait of Hormuz closure, where 20% of the world's oil flows through the Persian Gulf.

00:14:13.000 So this is something where, look, when it comes to MAGA, I think that even if we weren't necessarily the ones who were conducting the strikes, I think that the United States would still kind of be on the hook for the bill.

00:14:24.000 And that's where MAGA would come in because when people voted in 2024, one of the biggest rallying cries of 2024 was no new wars.

00:14:34.000 There would be no new wars, no World War III, that we would not be pushing for these conflicts, that we would be stepping back from this and pushing negotiations.

00:14:44.000 That's Whitcoff. 0.91

00:14:45.000 That's been Trump.

00:14:46.000 That's been the peace agenda.

00:14:48.000 And Trump has always signaled that he wants his legacy to be this peace legacy.

00:14:52.000 Yeah, I agree with you, Jack.

00:14:55.000 I think you put it really well that MAGA is going to see this as America getting foot with the bill, even if we're not the ones pushing for it, even if Trump has been rebuffing Bibi Netanyahu's push to strike Iran.

00:15:08.000 Now, this was breaking from Axios in the last 20 minutes here, Jack.

00:15:11.000 White House envoy Steve Witkoff privately warned top Senate Republicans last week that Iran could unleash a mass casualty response if Israel bombs their nuclear facilities.

00:15:22.000 Apparently, Iran has shot missiles at Israel in the relatively recent past.

00:15:28.000 I think it was last year in response.

00:15:30.000 These are actually pretty sophisticated missiles.

00:15:33.000 They have 2,000 ballistic missiles.

00:15:36.000 And Steve Whitcoff said in a speech on Wednesday in New York, it's as big of an existential threat for Israel as Iran's nuclear capabilities.

00:15:44.000 Jack, final word, 30 seconds.

00:15:46.000 Iran is not the Taliban.

00:15:48.000 Iran has a serious military, has the ability to threaten Israel, has the ability to respond.

00:15:55.000 And certainly, if you are supportive of Israel, if you're supportive of peace, and I think nobody wants Iran to have this nuclear weapon.

00:16:03.000 And that's why I back the agenda that President Trump stood for when he was on all of those rallies in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan saying no new wars.

00:16:12.000 Yeah, pray for peace, no new wars.

00:16:16.000 Very scary situation out of the Middle East. 0.97

00:16:18.000 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily.

00:16:19.000 Check it out.

00:16:20.000 Thanks for making the time, Jack.

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00:17:26.000 Representative Chip Roy, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:17:28.000 Honored to have you, sir.

00:17:30.000 Good to be on.

00:17:31.000 I hope you're doing well.

00:17:32.000 Yeah, we're doing all right.

00:17:34.000 There's a lot of news right now.

00:17:35.000 The reason that we wanted to have you on...

00:17:43.000 We've been talking about Iran.

00:17:45.000 It seems like the drums of war are beating.

00:17:47.000 President Trump was just asked about it from the White House.

00:17:51.000 Is an attack imminent?

00:17:52.000 He was just asked.

00:17:53.000 He said, well, I don't want to say it was imminent, but it's certainly a possibility.

00:17:58.000 Chip Roy, just your initial response to what's happening in the Middle East and what should President Trump supporters, conservatives, what should we make of it?

00:18:08.000 Well, first of all, the president is exactly right in what he just said, and I certainly personally believe we cannot allow Iran to get nuclear capability. 0.98

00:18:15.000 I fundamentally disagree with some of the people here in this country who I think, I don't know whether you want to call them isolationists or what, I don't believe in all of those labels.

00:18:24.000 What I know is we need to defend our interests, and our interests are certainly very much intertwined with the idea that Iran should not have nuclear capability.

00:18:33.000 It would be massively destructive to peace and stability, not just to the Middle East, but to the entire world, including our own safety and security here in this country.

00:18:40.000 We know that.

00:18:42.000 The leadership of Iran is radicalized.

00:18:44.000 They certainly have no love for the United States of America.

00:18:46.000 They are our enemies.

00:18:47.000 We know this.

00:18:48.000 So I think the president is exactly right.

00:18:50.000 And by the way, he has given every peaceful path.

00:18:53.000 Maybe to a fault, I say respectfully, has given every peaceful path for Iran to try to take.

00:18:59.000 I think some of us would say, well, maybe even opening the door to an agreement that maybe isn't strong enough or aggressive enough.

00:19:06.000 But bottom line is, he's certainly been trying because he's a president who understands we don't need to be in forever wars.

00:19:11.000 We don't need to be in forever conflicts and endless wars like we were for the first two decades of this century.

00:19:16.000 But we do need to send a loud signal.

00:19:18.000 By the way, do I think Israel is going to act?

00:19:27.000 But you know what?

00:19:28.000 Israel has acted before. 0.64

00:19:30.000 I think in like 82 and maybe in 07, they've had strikes to take out nuclear capability, whether it was Syria or otherwise.

00:19:37.000 And that didn't trigger World War III.

00:19:40.000 Israel has a right to defend itself and ensure that they're not going to have nuclear capability in Iran.

00:19:46.000 And the United States, we have to defend our interests as well.

00:19:48.000 Pete Hex said it well.

00:19:49.000 Israel has their right to do what they think is correct.

00:19:52.000 We need to defend our interests, and we will continue to engage.

00:19:56.000 And I think the president is correct to do so.

00:19:59.000 Yeah, and apparently one of the big roadblocks, Congressman, is Iran's saber-rattling. 0.76

00:20:06.000 They're saying, in that case, America will have to leave the region because all of its bases are within our reach.

00:20:11.000 We have access to them, and without hesitation, we will target all of them in the host countries, the minister told Iranian press.

00:20:19.000 So, I mean, they're, they were actively saber rattling that being said, Steve Woodcoff is still planning to be in Oman on Sunday to continue to be the sixth round of peace talks with representatives from Iran.

00:20:33.000 You know, the issue here is that even if Israel goes it alone— I mean, we're going to be embroiled in this conflict.

00:20:45.000 I heard Trump this morning from the White House.

00:20:47.000 You can see his eyes on oil prices.

00:20:49.000 There's some predictions that oil prices could double because so much of the world's oil is going through that region.

00:20:55.000 You know, is there support within Capitol Hill, Congressman, for – Or is it, I mean, Trump seems to be sounding the no nuclear fuel, no capacity at all.

00:21:21.000 That's his line.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, I agree with the president.

00:21:24.000 I certainly think there are large quarters in Congress that fully agree with the president.

00:21:28.000 Again, this is a president.

00:21:30.000 Who has tried to seek peace in every path, whether you're dealing with Ukraine and Russia, whether, as he pointed out, you're dealing with India and Pakistan, now here with Israel and Iran.

00:21:42.000 And again, I would argue, and I mean it respectfully and frankly giving in praise, he has been trying maybe to a fault to give exit ramps to Iran.

00:21:50.000 But at the end of the day, a nuclearized Iran, And not just vicariously because they're putting Israel at peril. 0.96

00:22:01.000 They put us in peril.

00:22:02.000 There are massive numbers of people in Iran, but particularly in their leadership.

00:22:07.000 There are a lot of people in Iran who don't like their leadership.

00:22:09.000 They want freedom.

00:22:10.000 They'd love to have, you know, the Iran of 1979 and previously. 1.00

00:22:14.000 And God bless them.

00:22:16.000 Now you get a lot of Iranian Americans who, you know, they're just dying for Iran to be, you know, brought back again and out of this crazy leadership. 1.00

00:22:22.000 But they do have crazy leadership and they do have people there in charge of hating our country and want to do us harm. 0.99

00:22:28.000 The U.S. is Satan. 0.98

00:22:29.000 We would be completely irresponsible.

00:22:31.000 Congressman, I want to turn our attention to some breaking news out of your home state of Texas.

00:22:53.000 Is in the process of deploying 5,000 National Guard soldiers and 2,000 state troopers across Texas to maintain order.

00:23:02.000 This is ahead of, obviously, the No Kings protest that is planned for the weekend.

00:23:08.000 What's going on in Texas?

00:23:10.000 I mean, I think a lot of us are a little surprised that Texas would have similar problems, what we've seen in Los Angeles.

00:23:16.000 What's the update on the ground?

00:23:18.000 What can we expect?

00:23:20.000 Well, look, Texas is a great state. 0.98

00:23:21.000 We have leadership that isn't going to tolerate the kind of garbage that we're seeing in California. 0.73

00:23:25.000 But yes, we're a state of 30 million plus people. 0.98

00:23:28.000 Radical progressives who are being fueled by the same people who are being fueled in California.

00:23:33.000 And you've got people that are throwing all of this into it to try to destabilize and create chaos.

00:23:38.000 We're seeing it in San Antonio, which I represent.

00:23:40.000 We're seeing it throughout the state.

00:23:41.000 The governor's activating the National Guard to get in front of this ahead of time.

00:23:45.000 And he's right to do that.

00:23:47.000 We're a law and order state and we shouldn't tolerate it.

00:23:49.000 We acted swiftly at universities when they were destabilizing all that stuff with respect to Palestine, endangering our Jewish students and others.

00:23:58.000 And we acted swiftly there.

00:24:00.000 We should act swiftly now.

00:24:01.000 Like, this stuff is crazy.

00:24:03.000 You can't allow this to happen in a country that depends on the rule of law in order for us to be able to advance and prosper.

00:24:10.000 By the way, the reason so many people want to come to the United States is because we historically have defended the rule of law.

00:24:16.000 Cities burning is not the rule of law.

00:24:18.000 The fact is, the president and his people are doing the right thing to try to remove these dangerous people that were released into our country by Biden.

00:24:25.000 But not just that.

00:24:26.000 Literally millions in violation of our law under parole and asylum that are then using resources, using up our law enforcement, using up hospitals, filling our schools. 0.89

00:24:35.000 And we've got to have a pause.

00:24:37.000 We've got to remove a large number of people.

00:24:39.000 And that's what ICE is doing.

00:24:41.000 And there's no apologies on this, right?

00:24:43.000 We're either a sovereign nation or not.

00:24:45.000 And so if these guys want to pick this fight, they're picking the wrong fight.

00:24:48.000 The president is correct to do this.

00:24:50.000 The governor is correct to make sure we've got National Guard pulled out.

00:24:55.000 Our law enforcement need to act.

00:24:56.000 And by the way, a message to San Antonio, which I represent and others, you know, you need to step up.

00:25:01.000 The city of San Antonio, the city of Dallas, city of Boston, city of Fort Worth, Houston, they need to step up, even though they have more liberal leadership.

00:25:09.000 We do not tolerate lawlessness in the state of Texas.

00:25:12.000 And so I'm good for the governor for engaging.

00:25:14.000 Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.

00:25:15.000 If they can pull this off in Texas, Congressman, it's going to send a terrible message across the country, and the blue cities are going to burn even more.

00:25:24.000 Somehow, your colleagues in the House, your Democratic colleagues, they keep finding themselves on the wrong side of 60-40, 70-30, 80-20 issues.

00:25:35.000 Seems like they're doing it again.

00:25:36.000 Let's go ahead and play your colleague, Rep.

00:25:38.000 Yvette Clark, 405.

00:25:40.000 We still don't know the full consequences of this unprecedented authoritarian overreach.

00:25:47.000 But let me be clear.

00:25:49.000 Congressional Democrats stand in full solidarity with the residents of Los Angeles, with our immigrant sisters and brothers, and with the peaceful protesters who dare to speak out and who will support every effort to oppose this president's abuse of power.

00:26:06.000 So Democrats are drawing the line in the sand.

00:26:09.000 They're standing in solidarity with the immigrants.

00:26:11.000 Now, I have a question for you, Congressman.

00:26:13.000 If somebody breaks into the country, is that how you would define an immigrant?

00:26:17.000 Well, notice she used the word resident. 0.85

00:26:19.000 She certainly doesn't care about citizenship or legal status that is actually earned through the proper channels of law. 0.99

00:26:25.000 Let's remember that it was the Biden administration and the radical Democrats in Congress.

00:26:30.000 Who were using wrongly and illegally, in my view, a bastardized version of asylum and parole, which were put in there to be very technical, small ways for people to come to this country if they can make the case that there's an exclusion, that they should come here.

00:26:48.000 And they categorically released millions of people into the United States.

00:26:52.000 That was in violation of our law, which means those people do not have legitimate status here.

00:26:56.000 Okay, that's just the truth.

00:26:57.000 And so we've got to deal with that reality.

00:27:01.000 Democrats are, of course, on the wrong side of this, but let's be very clear.

00:27:04.000 They're sending a really loud signal because they're picking a fight even on the criminals.

00:27:09.000 They're not just picking a fight on the person who is here who isn't a dangerous criminal that was released into our country wrongly and illegally using public welfare benefits, raising our costs, and so forth.

00:27:21.000 They're not picking that more, I guess, sympathetic.

00:27:25.000 They're literally picking a fight on lawless criminals, like the guy in Maryland, like others, like this guy in Colorado that they're trying to defend.

00:27:34.000 That tells you where they're coming from.

00:27:36.000 They do not believe in sovereignty.

00:27:38.000 They do not believe in the rule of law.

00:27:40.000 And we see that on polling daily.

00:27:42.000 So, Congressman...

00:27:52.000 You ended up being a yes vote.

00:27:53.000 I think you did that in good faith.

00:27:55.000 I know you did it through grit teeth.

00:27:58.000 Everything that you're seeing, I think, in Los Angeles, around the country, is galvanizing the base around getting the big, beautiful bill passed through the Senate.

00:28:05.000 Are you optimistic that it's going to be improved in the Senate before it gets...

00:28:15.000 Not unless the president is successful in getting the Senate to understand that the House is the baseline and they need to improve it.

00:28:21.000 If they backslide on the green new subsidies, green new scam subsidies, they backslide on the Medicaid work requirements, they backslide on the spending restraint that got us to at least sort of believing that it would be deficit neutral.

00:28:33.000 I said that through grit teeth, like you said.

00:28:36.000 It's got to change.

00:28:37.000 And so right now, I have some real concerns.

00:28:39.000 The Senate needs to get it right. 0.99

00:28:41.000 God bless you, Congressman.

00:28:43.000 You've been doing hero's work.

00:28:45.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:28:45.000 Thanks so much.

00:28:46.000 Thanks, guys.

00:28:46.000 Appreciate it.

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00:29:42.000 So let's just talk about the Iran situation.

00:29:47.000 We get it. 0.63

00:29:48.000 Iran wants death to Israel. 0.92

00:29:50.000 They're threatening American military personnel within the region.

00:29:53.000 That's why we have moved people out of Iran, out of Bahrain, rather, Kuwait.

00:30:00.000 Baghdad, non-essential military personnel, and their families, they're coming out.

00:30:05.000 Here's the deal.

00:30:06.000 Trump ran on peace through strength.

00:30:08.000 Trump is often touting the fact that there's been no new wars, that he defeated ISIS.

00:30:16.000 We have been hearing from the intel community for decades, it seems like, at least 10 years, maybe longer.

00:30:23.000 Blake can fact-check me on that.

00:30:25.000 We have been hearing that They were on the precipice of having a nuclear weapon for a long time.

00:30:32.000 Now we're hearing that they've made advances and that they have enough fuel to basically create 10 nuclear weapons.

00:30:38.000 But they do not yet have the ability to militarize them, to deploy them, to actually turn them into bombs.

00:30:46.000 Literally since the 90s, Blake says, we've been hearing this.

00:30:48.000 And one of the biggest wins of Trumpism of the MAGA movement has been No new wars.

00:30:56.000 We have stopped the insanity of death and destruction in the Middle East. 1.00

00:31:01.000 And we, on this show, we're proud supporters of the state of Israel.

00:31:07.000 We believe they have a right to exist.

00:31:09.000 But we also believe that some things should be their problem, and not necessarily our problem as well.

00:31:15.000 And we want to be enthusiastic supporters of their ability to defend themselves, to live in peace.

00:31:24.000 Where Israel strikes Iran and America is not also embroiled in that conflict.

00:31:33.000 There is no scenario, let me repeat, where Iran is struck by Israel, even in a precision strike, where America is not also brought into that struggle.

00:31:45.000 Now let me explain why that's true.

00:31:47.000 Because even last year when Israel conducted targeted strikes on Iran, Missiles were then shot back at Israel.

00:31:55.000 Some were intercepted by the Iron Dome.

00:31:57.000 Others were intercepted by U.S. military.

00:32:00.000 So if Iran, with its 2,000 ballistic missiles, were to fire those back at Israel, America would be forced to respond in defense of Israel so that we do not have a mass casualty event.

00:32:12.000 And as Steve Witkoff is now saying, and it's been reported by Axios just moments ago, this represents everything.

00:32:22.000 Just as big of an existential threat for Israel as Iran's nuclear capabilities. 0.96

00:32:27.000 So one of the big instigating events here is the timing.

00:32:33.000 Bibi Netanyahu just survived a vote of no confidence, narrowly, in Israel.

00:32:39.000 So he's got a little bit of a lifeline.

00:32:41.000 We don't know for how long.

00:32:43.000 Domestic politics in Israel is what it is.

00:32:45.000 It's complicated business, just like it is here.

00:32:50.000 The fear is that since Trump pulled out of the JCPOA in 2018, that they have made massive strides in their nuclear capabilities.

00:32:59.000 Bibi doesn't know how long he's got left to be in charge.

00:33:02.000 He staved off this vote of no confidence just recently, but there could be another.

00:33:10.000 And the other issue is that Iran is creating a lot of these ballistic missiles so much so that they could overwhelm the Iron Dome. 0.86

00:33:18.000 And actually cause a lot of casualties within Israel.

00:33:21.000 This is a very, very tense situation.

00:33:25.000 Now, here's the hope.

00:33:26.000 The hope is that this is all saber-rattling, that this is 3D chess, that Trump is trying to send a message to the Iranians, you better get serious, you better come to the table, you better have your concessions, because this is real. 0.60

00:33:41.000 And I do think it is real.

00:33:42.000 I do think Israel wants to... 0.99

00:33:52.000 But I think Trump is willing to let a few dominoes fall in hopes that the Sunday talks with Steve Witkoff in Oman go well, and that they realize the Americans and the Israelis mean business.

00:34:06.000 Peace through strength.

00:34:07.000 Trump is always prone to saber-rattling.

00:34:11.000 He's always been willing to rattle the sabers much louder than many other people.

00:34:16.000 Hopefully this is brinksmanship.

00:34:18.000 Hopefully this is brinksmanship to bring Iran to the table. 1.00

00:34:21.000 Now, Iran, as Jack Posobiec said earlier in the hour, is not al-Qaeda.

00:34:25.000 This is a relatively sophisticated military operation that is aided by Russian military sources and technologies.

00:34:35.000 And we have to hope and pray that we are not embroiled in this.

00:34:39.000 We don't have the money.

00:34:41.000 Trump's base does not have the appetite for this.

00:34:43.000 And there is a desire for Israel to conduct its own affairs without so much of our help.

00:34:49.000 Now, pray for peace, folks.

00:34:51.000 Pray for peace.

00:34:53.000 That's all I can say.

00:34:54.000 Pray for peace.

00:34:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 12, 2025

Wars and Rumors of Wars

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