The Charlie Kirk Show - January 08, 2022


Was Jan 6 a False Flag Operation? In-Depth with Julie Kelly


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Julie Kelly with her phenomenou book about January 6th and the war on terror. We ve been covering the story extensively, but there s stuff Julie shares that was not shared by any of our guests this week. I encourage you to listen all the way through.

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00:00:02.000 Julie Kelly with her phenomenou book about January 6th and the war on terror.
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00:01:27.000 Julie Kelly is here.
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00:02:02.000 Okay, with us right now is Julie Kelly.
00:02:04.000 She's done an amazing job.
00:02:06.000 Her new book, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
00:02:11.000 Julie, thank you so much for joining the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:15.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks so much for having me on.
00:02:17.000 I appreciate it.
00:02:18.000 So we've had on this week Darren Beattie and Ben Weingarten, and you've done an amazing job covering this over the last couple months.
00:02:25.000 Summarize the thesis because it's very precise what you have here.
00:02:29.000 How Democrats use the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror.
00:02:34.000 What is the war on terror that's unfolding in front of our eyes?
00:02:37.000 Well, you can see this, especially yesterday when you had Vice President Kamala Harris tick off past terror attacks and then add January 6th, 2021 to the end.
00:02:50.000 Now, let's set aside how egregious, outlandish, and how demeaning it is to the people who were murdered at those various days on 9-11 and, of course, Pearl Harbor.
00:03:00.000 But this gives them justification to turn the tools of terrorism, the war on terror, which has been aimed at foreign adversaries, foreign threats, to domestic threats.
00:03:12.000 And those domestic threats are Donald Trump, the Republican Party, the Republican information ecosystem, and of course, the millions, tens of millions of Trump voters and supporters.
00:03:23.000 So when Christopher Wray designated under oath in Congress in March, he designated the four-hour disturbance at the Capitol a domestic terror attack.
00:03:34.000 That enabled the entire national security state, law enforcement, FBI, et cetera, local law enforcement to then treat the defendants, treat the event, and anyone tied to the events of that day as a domestic terror threat.
00:03:51.000 And so there's been a lot made of that word terror in the last couple of days, unnecessarily.
00:03:58.000 I shouldn't say that, meaning this, I think, unintentionally is what I mean.
00:04:01.000 I just, it seems as if people are asking, was this a terrorist attack?
00:04:06.000 Which I do not believe it was.
00:04:07.000 I think the only terrorist attack was the pipe bombs, and we don't know anything about that.
00:04:12.000 And let's just kind of get down to the bones of what a terror attack is.
00:04:15.000 A terror attack is trying to inflict mass harm on a population for a religious, political, or ideological purpose, right?
00:04:25.000 A terror attack is not getting in a scuffle with a police officer where you should go to jail if you do that.
00:04:31.000 But that is not a terror attack.
00:04:32.000 A terror attack would be Timothy McVeigh.
00:04:34.000 A terror attack is Ted Kaczynski.
00:04:36.000 A terror attack is 9-11.
00:04:38.000 Those are terror attacks, most commonly plane hijackings, bombs, the attempt for indiscriminate damage, loss of life for a political or socioeconomic or religious agenda.
00:04:54.000 Julie, why is that such an important distinction?
00:04:58.000 Why, for example, did Tucker Carlson focus on that, pushing back against the characterization of what happened that day as a terror attack, pipe bombs aside, because I actually think that was a terror attack or a potential, whatever that was, right?
00:05:11.000 We don't really know.
00:05:12.000 Because you use the word war on terror against the political right, but was January 6th a terror attack?
00:05:12.000 Can you talk about that?
00:05:20.000 Oh, by no means was it a terror attack until we find out that it potentially was a terror attack organized and executed by our own government. 0.68
00:05:30.000 And when I say that, Charlie, and especially if you had Darren Beatty on, we know what this FBI is capable of, right?
00:05:37.000 We could talk a little bit for a minute about the Whitmer kidnapping plot.
00:05:41.000 This case is unraveling for the government.
00:05:44.000 It is exposing the FBI's central role in concocting that plot, luring men into that plot, organizing all of the optics about that, and then setting these men up to buy explosives from an undercover FBI agent.
00:06:00.000 That case is unraveling quickly.
00:06:03.000 The top three agents have been removed from the witness list.
00:06:07.000 One has been fired.
00:06:08.000 The informant, one of the key informants, is a convicted felon several times over who committed at least two crimes while he was working with the FBI to entrap these men.
00:06:20.000 So it's important to sort of keep an eye on this Whitmer case because it also is tied to January 6th.
00:06:27.000 Now, what we know, Charlie, and the Newsweek story that posted on Monday was very revelatory in terms of contradicting Christopher Wray and the Democrats' claim that they were caught flat-footed, they didn't have intelligence, they weren't prepared, it will never happen again.
00:06:45.000 Contrary to that, we now know that they had a half a dozen elite FBI forces stationed at Quantico the weekend before January 6th.
00:06:53.000 Who knows what they were doing, training probably to execute what happened on that day.
00:06:58.000 But contrary to Jeffrey Rosen, the acting attorney general's testimony as well, we said he deployed those assets after the violence started.
00:07:07.000 We now know that those assets were deployed the morning of, including having agents near the DNC and RNC headquarters where these alleged pipe bombs were discovered right before the first breach of the perimeter of the Capitol complex took place.
00:07:23.000 So when you add all of these things together, Charlie, you know this.
00:07:27.000 There's no coincidences.
00:07:29.000 This was coordinated.
00:07:31.000 So if it was an attack, it was not an attack by Trump supporters.
00:07:35.000 It was not even an attack by alleged militia groups.
00:07:38.000 This looks more and more like it was an orchestrated attack that was concocted and executed by our own government agencies.
00:07:48.000 So I'm sympathetic to that.
00:07:49.000 I want to walk through that with you because I think my response is okay, but you've done a lot of good thinking and research on this.
00:07:58.000 The book is January 6th, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right by Julie Kelly.
00:08:07.000 And Julie has been going on Tucker Show many times the last couple months. 0.94
00:08:11.000 And this entire kind of January 6th saga has in the unfolding of it the last couple months has been a very interesting thing, a very interesting study in the Overton window.
00:08:22.000 Because what started as kind of a radical, I don't want to say radical, but people didn't want to touch it.
00:08:28.000 It was radioactive.
00:08:29.000 Like, oh, yeah, I mean, the stories are the cake's already baked.
00:08:32.000 All of a sudden, now you're starting to see more and more mainstream voices start to embrace this.
00:08:37.000 And it took a couple window movers like yourself, Julie Kelly, Darren Beattie, Ben Whitgarten, Tucker Carlson.
00:08:46.000 And now you have senators openly asking questions about this.
00:08:49.000 So you were saying, in essence, maybe January 6th was more of a intelligence operation or some sort of a domestic attempt to try and do something, whatever that might be.
00:09:02.000 I'll let you fill in the gaps.
00:09:03.000 But let me play devil's advocate.
00:09:05.000 And I just want to say, again, I'm sympathetic to your argument: is that people will go to the FBI website.
00:09:09.000 I'm there right now, FBI.gov, and they'll see hundreds, if not thousands of pictures of people that are pushing back on barricades or smashing windows.
00:09:21.000 You could look at some of the charging documents and they'll say there's no way that this was, it could have been planned by the government.
00:09:27.000 It looks like thousands of people that independently committed crimes or hundreds of people.
00:09:32.000 What would you say to that?
00:09:33.000 What would be the pushback to that?
00:09:35.000 How could the government possibly stage anything like this?
00:09:39.000 It looks to be such an overwhelming operation for anyone to be able to do.
00:09:45.000 So this is a great question, Charlie, because I think that that is a lot of Americans' general view or grasp of what happened that day.
00:09:54.000 So what we have to ask is: number one, why did Nancy Pelosi and Muriel Bowser intentionally keep the Capitol grounds, the entire complex, not just the building, the grounds around it were technically shut off to the public?
00:10:11.000 So why if that was the case?
00:10:12.000 Did they deny offers, including by the president, to have thousands of National Guardsmen on the Capitol grounds, informing people that the grounds were closed?
00:10:24.000 That's something that never happened.
00:10:26.000 And securing even the streets.
00:10:28.000 Why did they not block off the streets from the ellipse to the Capitol grounds?
00:10:33.000 You had tens of thousands of people walking after Trump's speech.
00:10:37.000 He wrapped up around 110, the what, 1.7 miles to the Capitol complex.
00:10:43.000 So they were not aware that the Capitol grounds or even the building had been shut off.
00:10:48.000 And as you know, Charlie, I'm sure you've talked to people who were there.
00:10:51.000 They couldn't even get cell service to know what was happening.
00:10:55.000 They wanted to be outside the Capitol or inside the building too, feeling that that was their right as citizens.
00:11:00.000 And of course, that happens all the time when there's things like this happening, to see exactly what was going to happen with the joint session of Congress.
00:11:09.000 My belief is that the reason why they did not want National Guardsmen there is because DC Metro, Capitol Police, and these FBI units, we know hundreds of elite forces now were on Capitol grounds in the building that day.
00:11:25.000 I believe primarily because DC Metro and Capitol Police had their marching orders, which was, Charlie, to start attacking the crowd assembled outside the building early on, which prompted a lot of what you're saying.
00:11:40.000 Confrontations, physical brawls with police officers.
00:11:44.000 These officers were not unarmed.
00:11:46.000 They were not unprepared.
00:11:48.000 If you watch the videos and you see photographs and eyewitness testimony, you had dozens of DC police and Capitol police who were clad head to toe in riot gear, unrecognizable, no badges on them, really no official signage or anything that would show them as police officers.
00:12:09.000 They had riot shields on, they had face masks, and some of them had gas masks, they had gloves on.
00:12:16.000 You could not, they were head to toe black. 1.00
00:12:18.000 They started throwing explosive devices, including flashbangs, which is a stun grenade when it hits the ground, makes a very loud explosive noise and a big flash of light.
00:12:28.000 Capitol Police had rifles that they put pepper balls into, which when they're shot into the crowd, releases this puff of pepper gas.
00:12:37.000 DC police, and this was confirmed by the DC chief and congressional testimony, used something called sting balls.
00:12:44.000 This is a ball that when it hits the ground, releases a bunch of rubber bullets.
00:12:49.000 Now, there's plenty of open source video that shows crowds of people assembled outside.
00:12:54.000 They weren't trying to get into the building at this point.
00:12:57.000 This was after the initial breach of some crowd boys, some informants, some people who still haven't been accounted for, like Ray Epps, breaching the perimeter at that point.
00:13:09.000 These are the Trump people who actually left Trump's speech to go there.
00:13:13.000 So you see the crowd turn on the police officers.
00:13:17.000 This is when you see a lot of the physical confrontations with police.
00:13:21.000 This is why they didn't want National Guards in there to turn to other officers and say, why are you deploying these?
00:13:29.000 Why are you throwing things at the crowd?
00:13:30.000 Why are you tackling protesters?
00:13:33.000 Why are you punching them?
00:13:34.000 Why are you kicking them?
00:13:36.000 One interesting case is a man named Thomas Webster.
00:13:39.000 This was his first political rally that he attended.
00:13:42.000 He's a 20-year veteran of the New York Police Department.
00:13:45.000 He also provided security detail for Gracie Mansion.
00:13:50.000 What he got into a confrontation with police, a physical confrontation.
00:13:55.000 But what he testifies to and what video shows is he watched for about 10 or 15 minutes as he saw Capitol Police and DC Metro Police attacking people outside the building.
00:14:06.000 And this included shoving one woman at least twice as she was just standing there outside of the barriers. 0.90
00:14:14.000 So Thomas Webster runs up to this line.
00:14:16.000 He confronts one of his brothers in blue or a few of them, starts screaming at them, calling them commie MFers and screaming at them, you're attacking Americans.
00:14:28.000 This is BS, this is et cetera, et cetera.
00:14:31.000 Then he challenges the police officer who's doing this to take off all of the disguise that he has as riot gear.
00:14:38.000 And this is when they get into a confrontation.
00:14:40.000 Well, Thomas Webster was charged with attacking, assaulting police officers.
00:14:44.000 His trial is in a few months.
00:14:47.000 He has notified the government, the Justice Department, that he will claim self-defense and defense of others against excessive unlawful police force as to justify what he did that day.
00:15:01.000 Now, here's what's interesting, Charlie.
00:15:02.000 Prosecutors have already come back in a separate case and asked a judge to prevent defendants from using self-defense against excessive unlawful police force that day as a reason for why they did what they did, charged with attacking police officers.
00:15:18.000 Were there people who assaulted or attacked police officers who were unprompted, who shouldn't have?
00:15:27.000 Yes.
00:15:27.000 And they have all been charged.
00:15:29.000 And some of them have been in jail for over a year awaiting, or at least a year, coming up on a year, awaiting their trials.
00:15:35.000 These are people who haven't been convicted of anything.
00:15:38.000 They're under pre-trial detention orders.
00:15:40.000 And so this is a highly overlooked aspect of what happened on January 6th.
00:15:46.000 And the people who want to condemn Nancy Pelosi as if, oh, gee, it was just an oversight that they didn't have enough security that day, it was all intentional.
00:15:56.000 And now we know that there were hundreds of FBI agents.
00:15:59.000 And the bigger question is, now at this point, who hasn't been charged and why, instead of the 720 plus alleged domestic terrorists who already have been charged.
00:16:10.000 So if you were to speculate, which I know that you try not to do, what do you, the day before, the night of January 5th?
00:16:19.000 What do you think the plans were from the intelligence apparatus?
00:16:23.000 What do you think they wanted to have happen?
00:16:26.000 Walk us through what the equation you think they had.
00:16:28.000 They said, okay, there's going to be 50,000 people.
00:16:32.000 They're going to be angry.
00:16:34.000 Congress will be meeting.
00:16:36.000 Do you think what I'm really getting at is how much of what happened on January 6th was an act of unexpected pandemonium and what happens when you get thousands of people?
00:16:48.000 And how much of it was actually metaphorically put pen to paper beforehand?
00:16:53.000 What is your speculation in that?
00:16:56.000 I think the majority of it was orchestrated and planned ahead of time by government agencies.
00:17:02.000 I think some of it was people who were there to cause trouble and certainly those who got caught up in a mob mentality.
00:17:11.000 Now, but let's talk about a pivotal moment that afternoon, one that our president and everyone else overlooked yesterday, is the shooting and killing of Ashley Babbitt.
00:17:21.000 That happened about 2.44 that afternoon.
00:17:24.000 When that news, and you could see video, when that news made its way through the crowd, and some people actually saw Ashley Babbitt's body being carried out, not very respectfully, I will note, by police officers, that really incited the crowd as well.
00:17:41.000 So that, I mean, that is majorly overlooked as a factor of inciting this mob that day or inciting the protesters that day.
00:17:49.000 So you have all of these things happening at one time.
00:17:53.000 And certainly, Charlie, we also know from video that you had Capitol police officers who opened up the doors on the Senate side and let at least 300 protesters come in.
00:18:02.000 So why were they allowing people in?
00:18:05.000 Why were they not arresting people?
00:18:07.000 Why were they not making announcements from the scaffolding and everywhere else?
00:18:11.000 Hey, this building is closed.
00:18:12.000 The property is closed.
00:18:14.000 The grounds are closed.
00:18:15.000 If you don't depart in the next half an hour, you're all going to be arrested.
00:18:18.000 None of that happened.
00:18:20.000 So why did they not handle it like a normal situation?
00:18:24.000 And to your point, the night before, the pipe bomber allegedly set the pipe bombs and you had Ray X and other people encouraging people to go into the building the next day.
00:18:35.000 Charlie, the people who wanted the proceeding shut down that day were Democrats because you had senators and Republicans who were going to successfully object to the certification of six states and call for this 10-day audit.
00:18:51.000 They had enough senators. 0.90
00:18:52.000 They had enough House members.
00:18:54.000 It's the Democrats who wanted that shut down, not the Republicans.
00:18:58.000 So when you start with that premise, a lot of this starts to make sense.
00:19:04.000 And that's hard for a lot of Americans to believe, Julie, because what you're getting at is basically a political domestic false flag operation.
00:19:17.000 Is it fair to use that term, false flag?
00:19:19.000 That's a big term to use about our government.
00:19:25.000 It's a huge term, and it's scary to think of our government that would be capable of doing this.
00:19:32.000 But Charlie, as you know too, someone who's covered the Russia collusion hoax and someone who has really been a longtime supporter of the FBI and even the war on terror and all the tools, the Patriot Act, et cetera, trusting that our institutions would handle that authority responsibly and seeing that they have it.
00:19:51.000 They've exploited it.
00:19:52.000 They've abused it.
00:19:53.000 And even worse, Charlie, they've gotten away with it.
00:19:56.000 When no one paid a price for using political propaganda to betray and mislead, a special court, a FISA court, used to go after foreign terrorists.
00:20:07.000 And when they used a dossier compiled by a foreign operative paid by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign, and you had Jim Comey, Sally Gates, Andrew McCade, et cetera, sign off on this warrant that said that the evidence was legit and they needed to spy on Carter Page, et cetera.
00:20:27.000 And no one paid a price.
00:20:29.000 They knew that they could get away with using any domestic authority, foreign or domestic terrorism tools to go up against Donald Trump and Americans.
00:20:39.000 So this would be the natural trajectory of Crossfire Hurricane, Robert Mueller, and then, of course, impeachment.
00:20:48.000 They've gotten away with every single thing that they've done.
00:20:51.000 So why wouldn't they put together at least the majority of the operation of what we saw on January 6th?
00:20:59.000 And so there also something to be said about not every part of the security apparatus was read into this.
00:21:08.000 This would be why Ray Eps probably was put on the website and then taken down.
00:21:12.000 That there might, there was probably a right-hand, left-hand thing.
00:21:16.000 And, you know, any prosecutor worth their salt will tell you that you'll usually find more about the original crime in the cover-up than actually in investigating the crime.
00:21:29.000 What have you seen as far as attempts of covering this up?
00:21:33.000 Such as not allowing the 14,000 hours of footage, deleting Rayeps from the website.
00:21:40.000 Please go ahead.
00:21:41.000 Not only concealing 14,000 hours of surveillance video from the public, but also doing whatever they can to conceal that from defendants and their defense attorneys.
00:21:41.000 Right.
00:21:51.000 Every single clip, even a 30-minute clip used in, say, a detention hearing is under protective order.
00:21:58.000 There are very strict rules about how defendants can look at the evidence against them.
00:22:05.000 They have to have someone there to view it.
00:22:07.000 They can't download it.
00:22:08.000 They can't share it.
00:22:10.000 Now, why is the government, why is the DOJ being so protected?
00:22:13.000 If indeed this was the worst terror attack, comparable to 9-11, Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City bombing, why can't we see all of the evidence?
00:22:22.000 This would be surveillance video starting at noon through 8 o'clock that day, inside and outside, every angle of the Capitol buildings, adjacent buildings, and Capitol grounds.
00:22:32.000 Why can't we see that?
00:22:33.000 Why are they being so suspicious of it?
00:22:36.000 Why are they concealing the names of officers who allegedly were attacked that day?
00:22:40.000 They only use initials and charging documents, and they are not even going to tell the defendants the name of these officers.
00:22:46.000 They can't face their accusers.
00:22:49.000 Every constitutional protection that we cherish has been completely violated and destroyed, not just by this Justice Department, but by the DC district court who is going along with every request that prosecutors have.
00:23:03.000 I mean, we have political prisoners in this country.
00:23:06.000 We've had over 100 defendants who have been denied bail simply for the fact of their involvement in what happened on January 6th.
00:23:13.000 So we're talking about treating people like terrorists.
00:23:16.000 That is exactly what is happening, including over 100 people who haven't even been convicted, and many of them don't even have a trial date yet, Charlie.
00:23:25.000 So you could see the comparisons between what we wanted to use to go after terrorists after 9-11 and now to go after not just Trump, but millions of them.
00:23:36.000 I mean, you would imagine it would be a 14th Amendment violation of equal protection.
00:23:40.000 You would imagine that.
00:23:42.000 And I think that a lot of these lawyers are going to try this.
00:23:44.000 But to be honest, most of these individuals that are on trial, they don't have good attorneys.
00:23:50.000 They just don't.
00:23:52.000 And I'm not going to breach any conversations I've had, but I've just heard secondhand of how awful these arguments these lawyers are making.
00:23:59.000 They're basically like, just plead guilty, serve a couple years.
00:24:03.000 Am I right, Julie?
00:24:04.000 That's basically the advice a lot of these guys are getting.
00:24:07.000 It is because, you know, most of these people have never been in trouble with the law at all.
00:24:12.000 So they were just completely shocked.
00:24:14.000 You have the FBI show up, raid your house, point guns at your wife, at your children, drag you out, arrest you.
00:24:20.000 Don't even know what you're charged with.
00:24:21.000 You didn't even, some of them didn't even know it had to do with January 6th.
00:24:24.000 They can't afford the six figures plus to hire a criminal defense attorney in D.C. because, of course, every case is handled in D.C.
00:24:32.000 So a lot of them had public defenders and they certainly don't share the political views of their clients in its shows.
00:24:40.000 It's a real injustice.
00:24:41.000 And a lot of this is a revenge campaign.
00:24:43.000 Make no mistake.
00:24:46.000 This is an open air, 700-person therapeutic revenge campaign for people that hate themselves, hate their lives, and want to try and put on a show trial because they're mad Donald Trump got four years in the White House.
00:25:02.000 It's part of this.
00:25:04.000 They get some sort of really sick, sadistic pleasure in making some sort of 45-year-old from Western Kentucky have to squirm for his life in solitary confinement in prison.
00:25:16.000 They really do.
00:25:17.000 And they also want to ensure he doesn't get four more years because that's what show trials are all about.
00:25:23.000 Show trials, you know how they're going to end.
00:25:26.000 But they publicized them in the Soviet Union for a reason, because they tried to use it to stunt future activity against the regime.
00:25:35.000 Julie, talk a little bit about your experience this last year, how you got into this story.
00:25:42.000 Very few people are covering it.
00:25:44.000 It was considered to be radioactive or fringe at first.
00:25:46.000 Now it's very interesting and increasingly mainstream.
00:25:49.000 Just tell us a little bit about that.
00:25:50.000 I'm super interested.
00:25:53.000 As I was watching it, it just didn't make sense to me.
00:25:57.000 I think it just smelled right away.
00:26:00.000 And all my red flags after following not just Russia Gate, but all the lockdown policies, how that all was orchestrated and came together.
00:26:09.000 So I did not share, you know, the outrage about what was happening, the insurrection and all of that.
00:26:17.000 And so I think I was just skeptical from the get-go.
00:26:20.000 I also viewed it as a way to stop any claims or investigations into election fraud, which of course it successfully did.
00:26:29.000 As I was saying before, it was successful because then senators came back and a few senators who were planning to help object to these electoral results in the six contested states backed off.
00:26:42.000 And of course, then Joe Biden and Kamal Harris were certified the next day, about three o'clock in the morning.
00:26:47.000 And so I think I just started following it from there.
00:26:50.000 But then I became aware of the people who were charged and hearing what judges were saying in court denying bail to people.
00:26:59.000 One, the first story I wrote about was Coi Griffin, the Cowboys for Trump guy, who was charged with trespassing.
00:27:05.000 He didn't even go inside the building.
00:27:06.000 He was lawfully outside, charged with trespassing, and a judge denied him bail based on the fact that he did not believe that Joe Biden was legitimately elected president, and therefore he would not follow any of the laws of the government.
00:27:21.000 And so he was considered a flight risk and danger to the community.
00:27:25.000 So it just kind of started from there.
00:27:28.000 And I just, I opened up a PACER account, which I never had.
00:27:31.000 I'm not an attorney.
00:27:33.000 But I started reading the charging documents.
00:27:35.000 I started listening to court hearings and hearing what these judges were saying.
00:27:39.000 Charlie, when you use the word sadistic, and I want to make this very clear, that is not hyperbole.
00:27:46.000 That is the term I use consistently.
00:27:48.000 It is not just people like Joe Biden, Merrick Garland who might be gratified at the pain that they're bringing.
00:27:55.000 I'm talking about lying prosecutors and what they are saying in court.
00:27:59.000 I'm talking about federal judges who are so gratified and so pleased when they are able to sentence someone charged with a Class B misdemeanor to three months in jail.
00:28:12.000 I'm talking about the media who has destroyed these people's lives by tying them to the so-called insurrection.
00:28:19.000 I mean, I go on and on.
00:28:21.000 And my book talks about some of these heartbreaking stories, literally things that have brought me to tears listening to these defendants beg for mercy from these sadistic prosecutors and sadistic judges.
00:28:35.000 I mean, I'm not a prior, but there are a couple of cases where literally I was in tears covering what I was hearing.
00:28:42.000 And so I talk about some of those moving accounts in the book.
00:28:45.000 And I think that that's really what has driven a lot of my reporting.
00:28:49.000 Well, you've done a great job.
00:28:50.000 And I just want to reemphasize this. 0.90
00:28:52.000 These are very twisted people that hate Trump so much. 0.93
00:28:56.000 And this is as close as they can get towards exercising. 0.99
00:28:59.000 They hate us.
00:29:00.000 They hate us.
00:29:01.000 They hate America.
00:29:02.000 They hate the flag.
00:29:03.000 They hate all of it.
00:29:04.000 But this is as close as they can get into the orbit of exercising this massive spiritual gap they have.
00:29:11.000 It's that it really is that dark.
00:29:15.000 They think they're good people by doing it, but also they kind of get off.
00:29:18.000 They get gratified by seeing some welder from Michigan who came in and took a selfie in the Capitol be in solitary confinement. 0.63
00:29:28.000 That's right.
00:29:28.000 Okay, 45 seconds.
00:29:30.000 Tell us about the book.
00:29:31.000 We didn't really talk much about it.
00:29:32.000 Just give more people a direct tease and pitch why they need to buy it.
00:29:36.000 Thank you so much, Charlie, for having me on and pitching the book.
00:29:39.000 So I give a very detailed timeline and some minute by minute of what happened that day.
00:29:43.000 I talk about potential FBI involvement.
00:29:45.000 I talk about what police did on that day.
00:29:47.000 I talk about the DC Gulag and people who've been held in solitary confinement.
00:29:51.000 And I look ahead to what we can expect in 2022, not just by the DOJ prosecution, but of course by the select house committee as well.
00:29:59.000 Very, very good.
00:30:00.000 Thank you, Julie, so much for joining us.
00:30:01.000 January 6th, everyone go pick up a copy, help her in the Amazon charts.
00:30:05.000 Research needs to be rewarded.
00:30:07.000 Let me say that again.
00:30:08.000 Research needs to be rewarded.
00:30:09.000 This book is well researched.
00:30:11.000 And on our side, there's not a lot of people doing that kind of research.
00:30:15.000 Obviously, the New Yorker isn't going to do this type of research.
00:30:18.000 You know, they're too busy, I don't know, trying to find out the QAnon shaman's diet in prison or something.
00:30:24.000 This is the actual research that is legitimate and it's necessary.
00:30:28.000 And if you learn something this hour, then buy Julie's book because that's how you support research.
00:30:33.000 And then maybe you'll learn some more.
00:30:34.000 Okay.
00:30:35.000 Thank you so much, Julie.
00:30:35.000 Really, really appreciate it.
00:30:36.000 We'll have to have you back on sometime soon.
00:30:41.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
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00:30:53.000 God bless.
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