The Charlie Kirk Show - March 03, 2025


Was Trump-Zelensky a Setup?


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Breaking down the incredible meeting between President Trump and Alexander Zelensky, I give you my breakdown and analysis of the meeting heard around the world. I was on campus in Tallahassee, Florida on Friday, and a young man came up and asked a question.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, my reaction to the incredible meeting between President Trump and Zelensky, I give you my breakdown and analysis of the meeting heard around the world.
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00:01:23.000 So I was on campus.
00:01:26.000 On Friday, in beautiful Tallahassee, Florida, we had thousands and thousands of students.
00:01:32.000 Might have been the largest campus event we've ever done.
00:01:35.000 My team tells me University of Georgia was a little bit bigger.
00:01:39.000 Easily 3,000 to 4,000 students.
00:01:40.000 But of course, the local papers say hundreds of people.
00:01:43.000 That's nonsense.
00:01:43.000 That's not what we're talking about today.
00:01:45.000 As I was on campus, a young man came up and asked a question.
00:01:49.000 He said, Charlie, breaking news.
00:01:51.000 Right here, as we are on campus at Florida State University, Donald Trump and J.D. Vance just descended into a shouting match with Zelensky.
00:02:02.000 I paused and I said, come on, what are you talking about?
00:02:07.000 They're just there to sign a mineral rights deal.
00:02:09.000 There's no way.
00:02:10.000 He said, no, I'm looking at it right now.
00:02:11.000 I said, all right, well, I believe you, but I'll have to see it for myself.
00:02:14.000 I spent three hours on campus at Florida State University.
00:02:17.000 We had amazing exchanges, phenomenal crowd, really terrific turnout.
00:02:22.000 And then I opened up my phone.
00:02:24.000 And there I saw it.
00:02:26.000 The exchange that went around the world.
00:02:28.000 By far the most viral moment to date of President Trump's new administration.
00:02:34.000 And you can just see there that was the crowd at Florida State University.
00:02:38.000 It was historic.
00:02:39.000 It's what we have been waiting for and we are going to analyze and break it down because we were not able to do that on Friday or over the weekend.
00:02:45.000 And I thought about doing a show over the weekend.
00:02:47.000 I said, you know what?
00:02:48.000 This news is moving so fast that anything I say is just going to be outdated a couple hours later.
00:02:53.000 So on Friday, Mr. Zelensky, wearing his Sunday best, showed up at the White House, strolled all in to the Oval Office, and sat down for a long meeting with President Trump, J.D. Vance, and Marco Rubio.
00:03:09.000 Now let me pause.
00:03:11.000 The media is misrepresenting what happened on Friday.
00:03:14.000 It was over a 40-minute discussion.
00:03:18.000 Many people are only catching 30 seconds of it or two minutes of it.
00:03:22.000 If you want to get the entire story, you should watch all 40 minutes.
00:03:27.000 Zelensky needs America.
00:03:30.000 America does not need Zelensky.
00:03:33.000 Ukraine needs America. 0.62
00:03:35.000 America does not need Ukraine. 0.97
00:03:36.000 And then at a certain moment, things started to escalate.
00:03:42.000 Things started to bubble up.
00:03:45.000 J.D. Vance...
00:03:46.000 And Zelensky started to kind of go back and forth.
00:03:50.000 The first three-fourths of the meeting were uneventful.
00:03:53.000 Now, credit to President Trump for allowing the cameras to run, for saying, no, we want the American people to see all this.
00:04:00.000 We want you to be in the room.
00:04:02.000 And remember, this is why they hate Donald Trump.
00:04:04.000 Because he brings you into the room.
00:04:06.000 He brings you to the table.
00:04:08.000 You have a seat at the table.
00:04:10.000 You see how the negotiations are going.
00:04:12.000 If we are going to go to World War III, we want you to be able to decide who's in the right and who is in the wrong.
00:04:17.000 Not leaks.
00:04:19.000 Not one-off accounts.
00:04:21.000 We, the people, own the table.
00:04:23.000 Under Joe Biden or that entire regime, they never would have thought of bringing in the press for 40 minutes, which, again, I just find so laughable.
00:04:31.000 On campuses, some of these liberals will say, oh, Donald Trump is attack on the free press.
00:04:36.000 Attack on the free press.
00:04:37.000 He let the press for 40 minutes in the Oval Office uninterrupted get the best ratings for daytime TV that they've ever seen.
00:04:44.000 So I want to play some of the longer cuts here.
00:04:47.000 Intentionally, just to kind of set the table.
00:04:50.000 J.D. Vance, in this nearly two-minute clip, and it's very, very rare for us to play a two-minute clip here on this program, but it's worth it.
00:04:57.000 It's historic.
00:04:58.000 We want to play it in context.
00:05:00.000 This started to bubble up.
00:05:01.000 And J.D. Vance asked a very simple question.
00:05:05.000 Do you think it's respectful to come to the Oval Office and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
00:05:16.000 Zelensky got very mad.
00:05:18.000 All Zelensky had to do was just say, I love America.
00:05:21.000 Thank you, America.
00:05:23.000 I'm so thankful for America.
00:05:25.000 America's wonderful.
00:05:26.000 Thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:05:27.000 It's all he had to say.
00:05:28.000 But Zelensky...
00:05:29.000 Can't help himself.
00:05:32.000 Something about Zelensky and how he feels or his attitude, or there's something more sinister going on.
00:05:39.000 I think there's somebody in Zelensky's ear, and I'll get to that.
00:05:42.000 I think there's either Senate Democrats or deep state actors in the Central Intelligence Agency that are undermining President Trump's potential win here in Ukraine that got in Zelensky's ear, saying...
00:05:56.000 That there might be some that tried to undermine this deal quietly because this was a masterclass by President Trump and J.D. Vance, but you have to wonder, was Zelensky sent on a kamikaze mission to blow this up? 0.78
00:06:11.000 Here is the long tape.
00:06:13.000 It's nearly two minutes.
00:06:14.000 One of the more historic moments in American diplomacy ever caught on camera, Play Cut 22. I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
00:06:24.000 Yes, but if you are not strong...
00:06:25.000 Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media.
00:06:31.000 Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.
00:06:37.000 You should be thanking the President for trying to bring it into this conflict.
00:06:41.000 Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?
00:06:43.000 I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.
00:06:55.000 Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military?
00:06:59.000 And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
00:07:08.000 A lot of questions.
00:07:09.000 Let's start from the beginning.
00:07:11.000 First of all, during the war, Everybody has problems.
00:07:15.000 Even you.
00:07:16.000 But you have nice ocean.
00:07:17.000 And don't feel now.
00:07:18.000 But you will feel it in the future.
00:07:21.000 God bless.
00:07:22.000 You don't know that.
00:07:22.000 God bless.
00:07:23.000 God bless.
00:07:24.000 You will not have the war. 0.92
00:07:25.000 Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
00:07:27.000 We're trying to solve a problem.
00:07:28.000 Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
00:07:30.000 I'm not telling you.
00:07:31.000 Because you're in no position to dictate that.
00:07:33.000 Remember this.
00:07:34.000 You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
00:07:39.000 We're going to feel very good.
00:07:41.000 We're going to feel very good and very strong.
00:07:44.000 You're right now not in a very good position.
00:07:47.000 You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he happens to be right about it.
00:07:52.000 You're not in a good position.
00:07:54.000 You don't have the cards right now.
00:07:56.000 With us, you start having cars.
00:07:58.000 Right now, you're playing cars.
00:08:01.000 You're playing cars.
00:08:02.000 You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.
00:08:05.000 You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.
00:08:16.000 It's back to you.
00:08:17.000 Far more than a lot of people said they should have.
00:08:20.000 Have you said thank you once?
00:08:21.000 A lot of times.
00:08:23.000 Even today.
00:08:24.000 Even today.
00:08:25.000 You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
00:08:29.000 Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
00:08:37.000 We've never seen anything like this.
00:08:40.000 And I just have to marvel at how transparent this administration is.
00:08:44.000 You want to get on what side do you stand on?
00:08:46.000 Do you stand on the side of the foreigner come and begging for money? 0.99
00:08:50.000 Or do you stand on the side of America?
00:08:51.000 And by the way, it keeps going.
00:08:52.000 And it kept going, and we're going to keep on analyzing it.
00:08:54.000 We have never seen or heard anything like this.
00:08:58.000 A public collapse of a deal.
00:09:00.000 It never, ever happens on camera.
00:09:03.000 And I think this is one of the healthiest developments in American diplomacy.
00:09:06.000 Sometimes deals don't go the right way.
00:09:10.000 Sometimes they go the correct way.
00:09:11.000 But you deserve to know all the elements involved.
00:09:16.000 If we are going to keep on sleepwalking closer and closer into a war, you should know why.
00:09:21.000 If we're going to get away from Ukraine, you deserve to know why. 0.99
00:09:25.000 And J.D. Vance asking the question, who are you to say what our country is and is not going to do?
00:09:33.000 And you're going to see in the next clip, in the next segment, what really set off President Trump.
00:09:38.000 It really set him off.
00:09:40.000 When Zelensky was telling Donald Trump, That America might be involved in a war against Russia.
00:09:46.000 And Zelensky even tries to walk it back.
00:09:48.000 And what an arrogant attitude that Zelensky brought into the White House.
00:09:52.000 You have to wonder, did Zelensky even want a deal?
00:09:55.000 Of course he does on the surface, but he wasn't acting like it.
00:10:00.000 Before that meeting, he had another meeting at the Hay Adams with Democrat establishment and Republican establishment senators who probably gave him a false sense of confidence.
00:10:12.000 He has the attitude of migrants who are coming to America and Europe.
00:10:16.000 Give me more.
00:10:17.000 I want this.
00:10:18.000 You need to give us that.
00:10:19.000 Well, that's not the way it works with President Trump and J.D. Vance.
00:10:22.000 If you don't respect the Oval Office and respect our country, then you're going to get kicked out, which is exactly what happened.
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00:11:43.000 It continued.
00:11:44.000 President Donald Trump, to his great credit, stood up for his number two J.D. Vance.
00:11:49.000 He saw what was going on here.
00:11:50.000 He said, wait a second, you don't talk to my number two this way. 0.99
00:11:53.000 You don't talk to my guy this way.
00:11:54.000 This guy loves America.
00:11:56.000 He's my number two.
00:11:56.000 I picked him.
00:11:57.000 And then President Trump got involved.
00:12:00.000 You see, Zelensky thought that he could kind of slap around J.D. Vance a little bit because he's been told by his oligarch handlers that, oh, J.D. Vance is an isolationist, but Trump is with you.
00:12:11.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:12:14.000 Zelensky antagonized this entire administration.
00:12:16.000 He antagonized the American people with his smug, arrogant attitude.
00:12:22.000 All Zelensky had to do was keep his head down and say, yes, sir, yes, sir.
00:12:26.000 Again, it begs the question, did Zelensky actually want a deal?
00:12:31.000 Was Zelensky sent with an ulterior motive to blow this up and make President Trump look bad?
00:12:39.000 Zelensky has no humility.
00:12:41.000 It's just naked entitlement.
00:12:44.000 Play Cut 24.
00:13:13.000 You're buried there.
00:13:15.000 People are dying.
00:13:16.000 You're running low on soldiers.
00:13:18.000 Listen, you're running low on soldiers.
00:13:21.000 It would be a damn good thing.
00:13:22.000 Then you tell us, I don't want to cease fire.
00:13:25.000 I don't want to cease fire.
00:13:26.000 I want to go and I want this.
00:13:28.000 Look.
00:13:29.000 If you could get a ceasefire right now, I'd tell you you'd take it so the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed.
00:13:36.000 Of course we want to stop the war. 0.95
00:13:37.000 But you're saying you don't want a ceasefire?
00:13:39.000 I want a ceasefire.
00:13:41.000 Because you'll get a ceasefire faster than an agreement.
00:13:43.000 Ask our people about a ceasefire.
00:13:45.000 What do you think?
00:13:46.000 It doesn't matter for you what it means.
00:13:49.000 That was with a guy named Biden, who was not a smart person.
00:13:53.000 That was with Obama.
00:13:55.000 Excuse me.
00:13:56.000 That was with Obama, who gave you sheets, and I gave you javelins.
00:14:00.000 I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks.
00:14:04.000 Obama gave you sheets.
00:14:06.000 In fact, the statement is, Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins.
00:14:11.000 You've got to be more thankful.
00:14:13.000 Because let me tell you, you don't have the cards.
00:14:16.000 With us, you have the cards.
00:14:18.000 But without us, you don't have any cards.
00:14:20.000 When people are in a war, it radicalizes them.
00:14:22.000 They get obsessed and hateful.
00:14:24.000 It's just how war is.
00:14:26.000 It's understandable to a certain extent that Zelensky completely hates Russia.
00:14:29.000 Who could blame him?
00:14:30.000 But to be a statesman, you have to overcome it.
00:14:34.000 The quick detail there is important.
00:14:35.000 We're not talking about a peace deal.
00:14:37.000 First, we're talking about a ceasefire to stop the killing that can then lead to a peace deal.
00:14:43.000 Let's just have a ceasefire.
00:14:44.000 Let's stop the killing and bring everybody to the table.
00:14:47.000 But Zelensky, with his arms crossed, no, no, no, we're not doing that.
00:14:52.000 In the art of the deal, President Trump says, without us, you're going to get obliterated.
00:14:56.000 And then the Europeans are acting all uppity this weekend. 1.00
00:14:59.000 You got Keir Starmer, and you got the Germans. 1.00
00:15:02.000 What are they going to do?
00:15:03.000 With what army is the UK and the Germans going to support Ukraine?
00:15:08.000 Trump is trying to tell them, look, stop trying to tell us that Putin is bad.
00:15:13.000 We get it.
00:15:14.000 Stop trying to get me to say that.
00:15:16.000 I'm trying to make a deal.
00:15:18.000 You see, President Trump actually understands the basic principle and idea of diplomacy.
00:15:23.000 Because if President Trump goes on, oh, Putin's the worst person ever, he's a dictator, how is he going to pick up the phone to a Russian federation whose relationship was severely damaged, if not broken and shattered by the Biden administration?
00:15:38.000 So President Trump has a very difficult task.
00:15:40.000 He has to resurrect and rebuild diplomatic channels with Russia.
00:15:46.000 While simultaneously trying to get these lunatics in Ukraine to calm down and to mute their bloodlust. 0.82
00:15:53.000 It's a very difficult diplomatic balance.
00:15:57.000 Because President Trump after this has got on the phone with the Russians and they have a million different complaints.
00:16:02.000 We got sanctions on them.
00:16:03.000 We've kicked out their diplomats.
00:16:05.000 We're sending missiles into the interior of Russia. 0.80
00:16:07.000 Our weaponry has been responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of Russians. 0.63
00:16:12.000 They're not happy with us.
00:16:13.000 And so President Trump is trying to show, no, this is different.
00:16:16.000 We're going to stop offensive cyber operations against you, which was probably a bunch of nothing anyways, probably just a bunch of hocus-pocus.
00:16:24.000 And Zelensky is against it.
00:16:26.000 Why?
00:16:28.000 Because he says Putin violates ceasefires?
00:16:30.000 Okay, well, we'll cross that bridge.
00:16:32.000 When we get there, there's a new president in town.
00:16:35.000 But Zelensky's not someone who wants peace, and that's a tragedy.
00:16:38.000 Because absent the United States of America backstopping Ukraine, Russia would take over the entire country of Ukraine, which would not be good. 0.84
00:16:46.000 It'd be a tragedy.
00:16:47.000 We don't want to see that happen.
00:16:49.000 It'd be so easy for Zelensky to handle this better.
00:16:52.000 Instead, Zelensky's attitude and arrogance was either the greatest diplomatic failure that's been televised in history or a sabotage campaign by the deep state and the uniparty senators.
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00:18:22.000 And I want to just play some of the media reaction to further set the table here.
00:18:29.000 Understanding how unpopular Zelensky has become.
00:18:32.000 This is from CNN, Harry Enten, who does a very good job, I have to say.
00:18:36.000 Play cut three.
00:18:37.000 Holy Toledo.
00:18:39.000 Look at this trend line here.
00:18:40.000 U.S. support for Ukraine is too much.
00:18:43.000 Back when the war began, back in February of 2022, it was just 7%.
00:18:47.000 Up like a rocket ship.
00:18:49.000 My goodness.
00:18:49.000 Up now in February of 2025 to 40. One percent.
00:18:54.000 And the clear majority of Republicans, and of course Republicans are in charge of the U.S. government now, 62 percent of Republicans say that the U.S. support for Ukraine is too much.
00:19:03.000 What a difference from just three years ago.
00:19:05.000 I can remember, John, all those backyards in the United States with those Ukrainian flags, far fewer of them today, as Americans' opinions on Ukraine have changed dramatically.
00:19:14.000 Joining us now is Senator Mullen from Oklahoma, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
00:19:19.000 Senator, thank you for taking the time.
00:19:21.000 Can you hear me?
00:19:22.000 Yes, I can.
00:19:23.000 Good to see you, my friend.
00:19:24.000 How are you?
00:19:25.000 I'm doing good.
00:19:26.000 Sorry about this.
00:19:27.000 My flight out of Oklahoma City got canceled, so I'm flying to Oklahoma City to get to Tulsa in time.
00:19:35.000 My wife is actually driving me, so I apologize about this.
00:19:38.000 All good.
00:19:39.000 No worries.
00:19:39.000 Well, thank you for taking the time.
00:19:41.000 So give us, what is your reaction of the Oval Office meeting that happened on Friday, the now famous, between Zelensky, J.D. Vance, and the president?
00:19:50.000 Charlie, you and I have had discussions about Ukraine funding, and I have been on the side of saying, you know, we have an obligation to Ukraine because of the Budapest memorandum signed in 1994. The problem is that you don't bite the hand that's feeding you.
00:20:09.000 And it's very frustrating to me when you start having the president, Zelensky, who has to have us, disrespect the president and the vice president in that manner.
00:20:22.000 There is no excuse for it.
00:20:24.000 And at this point, it's not our issue.
00:20:27.000 It is the president's position, president Trump's position to end the fighting when that takes place.
00:20:34.000 President Zelensky, who has to have us, has to listen because we're tired of funding.
00:20:39.000 The taxpayers are tired of funding.
00:20:41.000 It's been going on long enough.
00:20:42.000 There's no end in sight.
00:20:43.000 There's no win for Ukraine here. 0.99
00:20:45.000 How do you get out and stop the killing, which is what President Trump has made very clear in saying that he's not ready to negotiate?
00:20:51.000 At that point, President Trump did exactly what he needed to do, kick him out and say, come back when you're ready for peace.
00:20:58.000 So what do you think is the path forward?
00:21:01.000 Do you think that Zelensky should remain as leader of his country?
00:21:05.000 Should he resign?
00:21:06.000 I mean, this was such a blatant disrespect to the United States of what happened in the Oval Office.
00:21:13.000 It's not for me to say that he should resign or not.
00:21:15.000 I think that's for the people of Ukraine and Ukrainians to make that decision.
00:21:20.000 I don't want to get the position of what happened during the Arab Spring to where Secretary Clinton was making a decision who's going to rule what country.
00:21:31.000 That's been a disaster ever since.
00:21:33.000 What I want to do is keep the taxpayer dollars going to what President Trump wants to spend them for.
00:21:40.000 Trump wants to end the killing.
00:21:42.000 I think we have a very strong position that we should be able to recoup the money, the billions of dollars we spent by negotiating the mineral deal.
00:21:53.000 If you remember, Charlie, you and I spoke about this mineral deal because Lindsey Graham, myself, Josh Gunheimer all negotiated that deal, the national security deal, back almost a year ago.
00:22:04.000 That allowed us to have rights to minerals.
00:22:07.000 We had, in part of the funding that we did a year ago, we had put in there that we have first rights for refusal to the minerals.
00:22:13.000 Now, keep in mind, this is the third largest mineral deposit in the world that we know of.
00:22:17.000 We think that once we get in there, it's going, because right now we know it's valued at almost $3 trillion.
00:22:22.000 We think once we get in there, we actually are having U.S. mining companies using today's technology.
00:22:28.000 We feel like once we get in there, it may be the world's largest deposit.
00:22:32.000 Well, right now, we're getting the majority of our rare earth minerals from China.
00:22:37.000 So this would be a huge advantage for us if we were able to get this mineral deal done.
00:22:42.000 At that point, it becomes a national security interest for us, which doesn't make any sense at all why Zelensky wouldn't want that deal done.
00:22:50.000 done because if we're invested and we have a special interest in getting the minerals done, then that also becomes the national security for us.
00:23:01.000 And we're going to have more people in there to be able to protect Ukraine from Russia's aggression.
00:23:06.000 So, Senator, I don't want to indulge too much in this, but do you think at the very least that Zelensky had a false sense of confidence because of the meeting beforehand?
00:23:17.000 I mean, where would he get off like this?
00:23:20.000 Because it was trending fine.
00:23:21.000 It would have been a win for America, a win for President Trump.
00:23:24.000 Our audience is perplexed by this.
00:23:26.000 I think, one, he was used to dealing with the passive administration of Biden, who couldn't remember one sentence past the next.
00:23:34.000 He hadn't dealt with a strong leader like President Trump and our Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:23:40.000 I think he got in there thinking he was just going to—I think he thought the media was on his side.
00:23:48.000 What he didn't realize is America has changed.
00:23:51.000 The narrative has changed.
00:23:53.000 People are tired of it.
00:23:55.000 President Trump made it a campaign speech, literally, that he was going to end the killing in Ukraine.
00:24:02.000 And the American people, they want to make that happen.
00:24:05.000 What I don't understand is how the left is getting off on all of a sudden saying that they're for this.
00:24:11.000 I think it's a losing argument on their side.
00:24:13.000 And plus, Zelensky's got a bad read on politics.
00:24:16.000 Keep in mind, he went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for Harris.
00:24:19.000 J.D., or sorry, Vice President Vance brought that up, and that still is a sore subject.
00:24:25.000 What Zelensky should have done, which obviously he didn't read politics very well, which most Europeans don't understand American politics, what he should have done is came in with his hat in hand, thank the president for his support, thank the president for trying to negotiate peace, thank the American people for the investment, and say, we would love to partner with you with the minerals that Ukraine have.
00:24:45.000 And let's move forward.
00:24:47.000 Instead, he wanted to air it out in front of all the cameras, which is a bad move, especially with President Trump.
00:24:53.000 No doubt.
00:24:54.000 In closing here, Senator, what is the path forward?
00:24:57.000 Because it looks as if this is a broken deal.
00:24:59.000 The Europeans are talking a big game, but you and I both know they don't have the powder. 1.00
00:25:03.000 They don't have the dry powder to do this.
00:25:04.000 They don't have the economic might.
00:25:06.000 They don't have the military might.
00:25:07.000 They don't have the technological backing.
00:25:09.000 They don't have the people.
00:25:10.000 They don't have the military prowess.
00:25:12.000 So what is the path forward here?
00:25:14.000 The passport is that Linsky comes to President Trump, apologizes to the American people, and says, we're going to give you a very favorable mineral deal and negotiate the best peace deal you can.
00:25:28.000 On the other hand, if he thinks the European Union is the backing he needs, good on them.
00:25:34.000 Let the American people pull out.
00:25:35.000 I've always said that we shouldn't be taking the lead on this to begin with.
00:25:38.000 It's not in our backyard.
00:25:39.000 It's Europeans' interest, not our interest. 1.00
00:25:42.000 They got the gas line.
00:25:44.000 Ukraine, remember, has the second largest natural gas line going into Europe.
00:25:47.000 And if they want Russia to control all the gas to Europe, which means they'll control the entire economy, then that's on Europe. 0.87
00:25:56.000 So if Europe wants to take the reins here, if Europe wants to think they can fight this war without us, great.
00:26:02.000 It hasn't happened the last two times they thought they could do that.
00:26:04.000 We had to get involved.
00:26:05.000 But if this is one they want to do, then let America take a back seat and have at it. 0.96
00:26:09.000 Senator, safe journeys and travels.
00:26:12.000 Thank you for taking the time today, and good luck cleaning up this mess, because it's a big one.
00:26:16.000 Thank you.
00:26:17.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:26:18.000 Appreciate you.
00:26:19.000 Bye.
00:26:19.000 So, look, the situation at hand is immense, but you've got to love President Trump for standing up for our country and not allowing the metaphorical desecration of the Oval Office to happen there, which is basically what's happening.
00:26:32.000 You're going to go pick a fight with our vice president? 0.96
00:26:34.000 It's outrageous.
00:26:36.000 Now, the media, how are they reacting to this?
00:26:39.000 Predictably.
00:26:39.000 But before I even get into this, into that, I want to play this.
00:26:44.000 Let's play cut 19. More of President Trump dressing down Zelensky.
00:26:48.000 Play cut 19. You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us.
00:27:02.000 Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war.
00:27:06.000 We've been alone.
00:27:07.000 And we are thankful.
00:27:08.000 I said thanks in this cabinet.
00:27:11.000 You haven't been alone.
00:27:11.000 We gave you, through this stupid president, $350 billion.
00:27:16.000 We gave you military equipment.
00:27:18.000 And you men are brave, but they had to use our military.
00:27:21.000 If you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment, I'm not one to give, you know, let's just say, unique advice.
00:27:36.000 But here's some good rules for life.
00:27:38.000 If Zelensky actually wanted a deal, which I'm not convinced he did.
00:27:42.000 Number one, you never interrupt a president of the United States, regardless of who that president is.
00:27:46.000 But you especially don't interrupt President Trump.
00:27:49.000 And you especially don't interrupt President Trump when your country is in total ruins and you have No leverage whatsoever.
00:27:59.000 Again, I'm not confident that he intentionally sabotaged this.
00:28:03.000 What I'm getting at is that there very well might have been a false sense of confidence of somebody whispering in his ear that if you play a strong man, it's all going to end up fine.
00:28:14.000 In fact, we want you to stand up for Trump.
00:28:17.000 That Trump will fold that you need to do that.
00:28:20.000 I think that somebody put that in his ear.
00:28:23.000 And President Trump is dressing him down, as he should.
00:28:26.000 You don't have the cards.
00:28:29.000 And you can tell President Trump is getting so mad because he says, listen, I got guys on both sides of this deal here.
00:28:35.000 I got a deal with you, and I got a deal with the Russians. 0.99
00:28:38.000 And President Trump is basically saying, we're trying to do this mineral thing, which is nothing for you.
00:28:43.000 You don't have a country.
00:28:44.000 Of course you're going to give away half of your mineral rights.
00:28:46.000 You don't have a country.
00:28:47.000 This is statecraft on display.
00:28:51.000 And Zelensky...
00:28:53.000 Going on and on about how he can potentially win the war.
00:28:56.000 He will not win the war.
00:28:57.000 Since the beginning, that has been clear and evident, despite the fact we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars.
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00:30:07.000 So, right after this blows up in the Oval Office, all of these European leaders start to tweet out support of Zelensky, and then this weekend...
00:30:16.000 Keir Starmer hosted some sort of summit for Zelensky, that all the leaders got on planes to come and surround him.
00:30:23.000 If you were of the believer that this was staged, this certainly plays into that belief.
00:30:29.000 Now understand this.
00:30:31.000 The Europeans don't have what it takes. 1.00
00:30:33.000 Now if the Europeans suddenly want to go raise a military and want to go actually support Ukraine, where has this been all along?
00:30:40.000 Why does America have to fund 70% of NATO? Our GDP is about equal with Europe's.
00:30:46.000 If you combine all of Europe and all America, we're slightly richer.
00:30:50.000 If Europe responded to this by upping their defense spending, we would be thrilled.
00:30:54.000 We would be very, very happy.
00:30:57.000 We want Europe to take more responsibility for its security.
00:31:00.000 We want Europe to have more self-determination.
00:31:05.000 So, mission accomplished, I guess?
00:31:09.000 I just laugh at these Europeans that... 1.00
00:31:12.000 Say, oh, we can't give more to NATO, we can't give more to...
00:31:17.000 And all of a sudden, boom, as soon as they're put in a corner, we're going to up our defense spending.
00:31:21.000 Now, here is a tricky little sliver that we have to keep an eye on.
00:31:25.000 Keir Starmer, the pseudo-Marxist Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, of the Labour Party, says that he's going to put British troops on the ground in Ukraine.
00:31:35.000 You might think, great, here's the problem.
00:31:39.000 As soon as a single British troop... 0.95
00:31:45.000 Article 5 of NATO is a mutual defense agreement.
00:31:50.000 An attack on one is an attack on all.
00:31:52.000 So if the United Kingdom is going to put 10,000 troops in Ukraine and Russia kills 100 British soldiers, that triggers Article 5. That means American soldiers very well might be next and we might be involved in this situation.
00:32:08.000 Should we stay involved in NATO? Why are we in NATO if it's about getting us involved in a conflict, not keeping conflict from happening?
00:32:17.000 Trump needs to get out in front of this, and he will.
00:32:20.000 He needs to call all these leaders and say, this is a bunch of BS, I'm brokering peace, stop all of your yammering.
00:32:27.000 We're supposed to believe that the Europeans are going to be able to mount an army up against the Russians?
00:32:32.000 NATO is designed to be a deterrent, but what NATO has done has actually provoked more conflict than it's prevented over the last decade.
00:32:40.000 Let's go to some of the media reports here.
00:32:43.000 Let's go to 25. Never in the history of modern diplomacy, war, peace, whatever, have I ever, ever, ever seen anything like it.
00:32:56.000 We just have to hope that for the safety of the free world and for the American people, for the European people, for the Ukrainian people, that these two presidents get out of breath and try to iron out their differences.
00:33:12.000 This was an entirely personal go to with so many mistruths and misfires.
00:33:21.000 That's Christine Amanpour from CNN.
00:33:25.000 She is right about one thing.
00:33:26.000 We've never seen anything like this.
00:33:28.000 And I haven't seen anything like this in my lifetime.
00:33:30.000 You know what that is?
00:33:31.000 A president resolutely putting our nation first.
00:33:37.000 A president...
00:33:38.000 Drawing a line and saying, no, go fight your own war.
00:33:42.000 If you want to go stand on yourself, that is not our obligation.
00:33:45.000 We are here for peace.
00:33:47.000 We're here for a ceasefire.
00:33:48.000 But our red line is we're not going to be bullied into a conflict and being told, oh, Russia's coming here next.
00:33:54.000 No, it's not.
00:33:55.000 We have an ocean and a great military, and we're very wealthy.
00:33:59.000 The Ukrainians, not so much. 0.99
00:34:01.000 And it's refreshing.
00:34:05.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:07.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.