The Charlie Kirk Show - We Need More Young People in the Trades — Charlie’s Last Message to the Working Class

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:09.000 Everybody, let's please welcome Charlie Kirk to the stage.

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00:01:16.000 we're unstoppable now ain't nothing going to take us down we're unstoppable now Thank you, everybody.

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00:01:30.000 Thank you, Josie.

00:01:31.000 That's very sweet.

00:01:32.000 And hello, everybody.

00:01:33.000 It's great to be here.

00:01:34.000 And I told Josie, I said, Josie, you gotta go up there and say that you can you can create distance from anything anything I say.

00:01:42.000 So Josie's a really sweet guy.

00:01:44.000 Give it up for Josie. 0.89

00:01:45.000 He's doing a great job, and it's a really wonderful event.

00:01:48.000 Um I want I want to talk about a couple things, and then honestly, I want to learn from you guys.

00:01:53.000 You guys are on the front lines.

00:01:54.000 Uh I have some views on immigration and other stuff that you might not share, but instead of us yelling at each other, I want to learn from you in the open mic perspective and hear what you're going through on the front lines, and then we can have a back and forth.

00:02:06.000 Because that's actually how this country should operate, right?

00:02:08.000 Not name calling or you know, death threats or any of that nonsense.

00:02:12.000 But uh the main thing I want to talk about is the perspective that we have or the lack thereof of how we educate young people.

00:02:20.000 What you guys are involved in is what I call a muscular class job.

00:02:25.000 It's a job where the people that you employ, they shower before work and they shower after work.

00:02:30.000 They it's a lunch pail type job.

00:02:32.000 Far too often we have had over the last 20 years an over-emphasis on a brain economy while sacrificing the body of the economy.

00:02:40.000 We have shipped too many jobs overseas to China.

00:02:42.000 We've allowed the middle class to be destroyed, we've allowed the industrial base of America to be hollowed out, and we have forgotten that more than anything else, an economy is made strong based on your ability to make stuff and fix stuff, build stuff, things you can touch, places you can live, places you can travel to.

00:03:02.000 And far too often we act as if economic growth is nothing more than just flipping through a social media app or creating a better selfie or a different dancing video.

00:03:10.000 We ask ourselves the question are we still building the great buildings, the great towers, the great dams, and the great places of a generation prior, and increasingly it is difficult to do that through regulation and red tape.

00:03:22.000 And one of the other main reasons, and this is where I have kind of spent a lot of time in my commentary, is we have unnecessarily sent way too many kids to four-year college in this country.

00:03:32.000 We are sending way too many kids to four-year college.

00:03:34.000 It's not even a political standpoint, by the way.

00:03:36.000 It's a very simple one.

00:03:38.000 We have a need for 500,000 electricians right now.

00:03:41.000 We do not need more sociologists, but we certainly need more electricians.

00:03:46.000 What happens is that in the suburbs of Dallas or anywhere across the country, parents believe and they're being kind of taught, hey, you have to send your kid to four-year college.

00:03:56.000 You have to send them to University of Texas or University of Houston.

00:04:00.000 I have to say Tex CNM or someone's gonna throw something at me, or whatever, or Texas Tech, or someone's gonna.

00:04:05.000 I think I checked most of the boxes, or Baylor.

00:04:09.000 Or what did I forget?

00:04:12.000 I forgot.

00:04:13.000 I for oh yeah, I forgot some school.

00:04:15.000 I'm sure Texas is a big state.

00:04:16.000 We love Texas.

00:04:18.000 So by the way, the most hate I ever got was when I spoke at AM and I did this.

00:04:22.000 People got so mad I got the most nasty messages.

00:04:25.000 So anyway, we are sending way we've been sending way too many kids to four-year college To go borrow money they don't have, to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that do not exist.

00:04:34.000 And there is a massive trade deficit right now in this country.

00:04:38.000 And it's because, if we're honest with it, and you guys are in the roofing business, if you grew up in Plano or in Frisco and you went to high school and you told your parents, hey, I'm gonna go become a roofer.

00:04:50.000 Your parents would be like, no.

00:04:54.000 Go study, I don't know, North African lesbian poetry at UT Dallas. 0.53

00:05:02.000 And then I'll be proud of you.

00:05:05.000 And we all laugh, but we know it's true at some level. 1.00

00:05:08.000 We know that there is those of you that are in the trades and that run these companies, you are treated as if you are stupid and you are dumb because you don't have that four-year degree on your wall when you walk in. 0.99

00:05:20.000 I will trust the wisdom of a roofer well above that of a PhD from Harvard any day in this country. 1.00

00:05:27.000 Any day.

00:05:28.000 And it's not just about, oh, they might not know every single little fact.

00:05:35.000 But you know what?

00:05:35.000 The roofer can tell you what a woman is.

00:05:48.000 And there's that practical knowledge when you have to wake up early every single day and go to work and deal in reality.

00:05:55.000 I don't deal with gravity and deal with the complexities of that craft, which is not easy.

00:06:00.000 And I want to just say, thank you guys for the hard work that you are doing for disaster relief and all across the board, because it's a forgotten portion of the American economy that is so necessary and so important.

00:06:11.000 But broadly, we have trades like plumbers, electricians, HVAC, roofers, that we talk down to these people.

00:06:18.000 Where there is a college credentialed class and then there's a working class.

00:06:22.000 People look at these last couple elections and they say, well, you know, what is dividing the country?

00:06:26.000 Is it right versus left?

00:06:28.000 It's actually more elitism versus the working class. 0.97

00:06:31.000 It's people that talk from a very elitist ivory tower and try to talk down to a population that has not seen their wages always go up, that are seeing things get more expensive, and they're told that they're dumb and they're stupid just because they did not go to a small subset of universities and colleges. 0.92

00:06:47.000 And in fact, not only is it wrong, but it's 180 degrees opposite of what we should be doing. 0.90

00:06:51.000 What we should be doing, and I'm I was told by Josie, who's doing a great job, that we're finally getting roofing back into high schools, getting the idea of a roofing trade back into high schools.

00:06:59.000 We should be celebrating the trades to our seventh graders, our eighth graders, our freshmen in high school.

00:07:04.000 We should be lifting up the idea that if you are able to change a tire and be a mechanic, that is an admirable thing.

00:07:12.000 Not only is it important, but it is something that is so rare and exceptional because we have an oversupply right now of the college credentialed class.

00:07:21.000 And you all saw them this morning when you ordered your Macchiato at Starbucks.

00:07:24.000 You know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:07:26.000 They all have college degrees.

00:07:27.000 They're all over-credentialed, but we have an oversupply in that.

00:07:31.000 And one again, the main fundamental reason is we've bought into a lie as a society that the only way to success is to go into debt and go study something that is just abstract and doesn't matter.

00:07:43.000 But that there's something wrong or there's something dirty if you have to sweat when you go to work.

00:07:50.000 And when we think about it, those are the jobs of the professions that built America into the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:07:57.000 And will again, and I guarantee you, just looking at this audience, this audience is a lot different than when I speak on college campuses, like a lot less purple hair, same amount of tattoos, but a lot more testosterone.

00:08:14.000 Right there.

00:08:15.000 That's not talking about you.

00:08:17.000 You're the tattoo quotient guy.

00:08:20.000 But I could sense in this audience, many of you were former roofers, or maybe certainly are or still are, or at least you were you were involved in some sort of summer job.

00:08:29.000 By the way, again, we're we'll we'll have the immigration discussion a little bit, but I think we can all agree, let's bring back summer jobs for kids in high school again.

00:08:38.000 I I wait where did we as a culture get away from that?

00:08:41.000 I think that's a point of agreement that I think summer sports is important, but the one downside of summer sports is that 14, 15, and 16-year-olds don't always have to go get summer jobs.

00:08:51.000 You know, back in the 60s and 70s, we were a nation where it was an expectation when you hit the age of 14, 15 or 16, you would go get some sort of a summer job.

00:09:00.000 You'd work at a diner, you'd be working in a kitchen and cleaning dishes.

00:09:03.000 And as a parent of two young kids, I think to myself, I hope I'm a good enough parent by the time that they get to be a teenager that I'm gonna say, no, go work on some job that is maybe below our income level.

00:09:15.000 And that's a big problem, right?

00:09:16.000 Because once we reach the upper middle class, we have this idea that our kids should not have to do the jobs that we once did.

00:09:23.000 But the idea of a summer job, I think it made kids understand the value of hard work, of discipline, of sacrifice, waking up early, and it's especially humbling if you come from an upper middle class family to have to go caddy for a summer, or have to go work for a roofing company, or just whatever it might be.

00:09:43.000 And what I find is I talk to employers all the time.

00:09:46.000 I say, how many kids are applying for summer jobs?

00:09:48.000 They say, Oh no, they they just they want to sit around and play video games.

00:09:51.000 And I know that's not a total true, but I bet you guys could agree with that largely.

00:09:54.000 That if you guys, as roofing professionals were trying to go find, you know, running roofing companies, we're trying to find a 16 or 17 year old to go work a summer job, that's a hard thing to find.

00:10:04.000 We need to culturally bank bring back an expectation of if you are young, we want you to try out a lot of different stuff.

00:10:04.000 And that's a problem.

00:10:11.000 And you know what's awesome about summer jobs?

00:10:13.000 You can find out what you're good at.

00:10:14.000 You can find out what you're passionate at.

00:10:16.000 You can learn a lot.

00:10:17.000 If you have if you want to go be a mechanic, go be go help the guy just do the most basic elementary work at a body shop.

00:10:24.000 If you want to go be a roofer, if you want to go be a plumber, an electrician, whatever it is, at the most fundamental level, and we change this change in the 1980s and 1990s because my parents from the baby boomer generation, they thought to themselves, our kids are gonna be more elevated above summer jobs.

00:10:41.000 And I I don't know about you guys, but I wasted a lot of time when I was in summer.

00:10:45.000 I was involved in you know, sports and basketball, football, and you know, Eagle Scouts and all, you know, being an Eagle Scout, all that.

00:10:45.000 A lot.

00:10:51.000 But still, I think back to I wish there would have been a cultural expectation because I know what it did to the country prior.

00:10:58.000 And those kind of sometimes those dirty jobs that Mike Rowe always talks about, we need to celebrate those people to do those jobs.

00:11:06.000 And some people say, but Charlie, if I don't go to college, I cannot succeed.

00:11:10.000 Mike Rowe reports that there are 11 million good job openings right now.

00:11:15.000 How many of you guys would hire Americans right now if you could and you have job openings?

00:11:18.000 I mean, I'm seeing hands all across the room.

00:11:20.000 And so we need to kind of reset the expectation of hey, we want to be a culture of work, a culture of not just of meritocracy, but there needs to be an expectation.

00:11:33.000 And part of this is also it's easy not to, it's too easy not to work in this country.

00:11:38.000 Our welfare programs are way too big and way too easy to scam.

00:11:43.000 That again, we all agree that we should have a safety net, but we don't want that safety net to become a hammock where you can sit around all day long, and we the taxpayers have to keep on paying lots of taxes, and it makes you even if it's within 10,000 dollars, someone's gonna sit at home.

00:11:58.000 Meaning that if they could roof for like $60,000 a year, and they could sit at home for $50,000 a year, they're gonna sit at home, they're gonna figure it out.

00:12:06.000 But even worse than that, and I'm sure you guys know this, they'll then work for cash and not report the income, and then it's not reliable, and it's just all over the place.

00:12:15.000 And so where we went wrong, in my personal opinion, is that we started to worship the power, and we started to appreciate the not even appreciate, we started to give too much credence to the university power structure in this country in a way that the bottom has completely fallen out.

00:12:34.000 And so, how do we get back from that?

00:12:36.000 It starts with a lot of you guys and also starts with public commentary.

00:12:39.000 I did not go to college.

00:12:40.000 I took a gap year when I was 18 years old, it's been 13 gap years, and we'll see if I end up go back to college.

00:12:47.000 And you know my favorite word that a kid never hears almost at all is entrepreneur.

00:12:52.000 It's one of my favorite words.

00:12:54.000 And if one of my again, I I don't want to pick on on some of the wonderful people that watch our podcast and videos, and I always get a kick when I ask you know, some of these students, what are you studying in college?

00:13:05.000 Well, I'm studying entrepreneurship.

00:13:08.000 Yeah, you don't study entrepreneurship, you do entrepreneurship.

00:13:13.000 And like what exactly are you learning as an entrepreneurship?

00:13:16.000 I'm learning the best practices.

00:13:17.000 How many of you guys just had no idea what you were doing when you started your business?

00:13:21.000 You took a risk, and you're like, I'm just gonna outwork everybody and I'm gonna figure it out along the way.

00:13:26.000 You didn't go to Baylor to go study entrepreneurship.

00:13:30.000 And that was a master class that you couldn't have paid for.

00:13:34.000 Because I know I remember the first time I went into a bank, I didn't know credit from debit.

00:13:38.000 By the way, we don't teach any personal finance anymore in our schools.

00:13:41.000 We've got to bring back for personal finance, and we have to stop this easy way that young kids are getting way too into debt in this country.

00:13:47.000 It's a major problem.

00:13:48.000 But as an entrepreneur, the best thing that creates an entrepreneur is not a class, it's not a seminar.

00:13:55.000 What creates the best entrepreneur?

00:13:57.000 One word, pressure.

00:13:59.000 When you are under pressure, your creative juices flow, you work all night, you'll drive to places you wouldn't imagine, you'll take that extra job, you'll say yes to everything.

00:14:09.000 And also, when is the best time to be an entrepreneur?

00:14:12.000 When you're 18 or when you're 35.

00:14:14.000 Both can work, but the best time to be an entrepreneur is when you have literally nothing to lose, no family to support, you know, no wife, like, or whatever.

00:14:22.000 But when you end up to be, you know, 35, you have a wife and kids, all of a sudden the pressure is a little bit different.

00:14:26.000 You're like, hey, I'm gonna kind of take the easy route.

00:14:28.000 Entrepreneurship rates have gone like this over the last 30 years.

00:14:31.000 I believe, in my pivonient opinion, which is probably provocative, as people have started to go to college, more entrepreneurship rates have gone down.

00:14:39.000 Because everything in college is about risk aversion.

00:14:42.000 Everything.

00:14:43.000 And you guys would not be here in this room as entrepreneurs if you were averse to risk at all.

00:14:49.000 The I the the journey of an entrepreneur is that we are gonna go try to solve a problem for somebody, it might not succeed, it almost certainly will fail, and I'm gonna do it anyway.

00:14:58.000 What makes America a different nation than our European card counterparts? 1.00

00:15:02.000 A lot of different stuff.

00:15:03.000 But the one of the things economically it is we start more businesses.

00:15:07.000 We start more concepts.

00:15:09.000 And so, how do we treat an 18-year-old right now at a local high school that says, I don't want to go to high school, I don't want to go to college, I just want to start a uh a business or something.

00:15:19.000 Well, the traditional path is well, you know, go get your four-year degree, just think.

00:15:23.000 Instead, we should be celebrating an 18-year-old to want to go take that risk and want to go create value, to want to go out into the marketplace and do something unique and interesting and creative.

00:15:34.000 Last thing I'll say is this, um, and then we can have a fun a fun discussion, guys, and I want to learn from you and hear from you is that you guys on the front lines of building businesses are not just the the most are not just critically important, but I want to encourage you that I believe that we are going to be on the verge of an economic golden era in the next couple of years.

00:15:55.000 People can disagree.

00:15:56.000 I believe though that we're at this pent up, this pent-up demand.

00:16:00.000 We're gonna see no tax on tips, no tax on overtime.

00:16:02.000 I know capital expenditures are going to flow.

00:16:04.000 More than all of that, though, America globally, I'm you know, I've been able to travel the world last couple of months.

00:16:10.000 Everyone is now saying America is back, America is back.

00:16:14.000 As our 47th president and 45th president would say, our country was dead a year ago, and we are the hottest country in the world.

00:16:22.000 And even if here's my challenge, even if you are here sneering at me and you hate my guts and you hate you know, the president, you should want this president to succeed.

00:16:32.000 That's my only ask.

00:16:34.000 You don't have to agree with a word that I say.

00:16:36.000 The only thing I ever ask out of my left-wing counterparts is you should be cheering for the White House's success.

00:16:41.000 That's it.

00:16:42.000 You should want the country to succeed regardless of who the occupant in the White House is.

00:16:47.000 You should want America to be a better country, a healthier country.

00:16:50.000 You should want America to be a stronger country, regardless of who is in charge.

00:16:55.000 You should be cheerleading for the best of the nation.

00:16:59.000 And the psychology in business, I believe, we're gonna start to see that flowing again.

00:17:04.000 And I believe that we're gonna start to see a middle class renaissance, and for you guys, roofers, hey, we need to build more homes.

00:17:10.000 We need to build more places where you guys can do business.

00:17:12.000 We need to expand our inventory, we need to make it easier for younger people to own homes.

00:17:16.000 We need to change the whole psychology that is facing this next generation, and that's what I will close on.

00:17:21.000 Is that a lot of you, I'm sure have kids, I don't think any of you maybe you have grandkids, and I can try to tell the others.

00:17:27.000 Some of you guys have kids that are like 10, 12, 13, 14, early teenagers or maybe late teenagers.

00:17:32.000 This generation is on the precipice of inheriting a worse country than their parents were raised in.

00:17:38.000 Everybody, regardless of your political affiliation, we need to rally together as a country and say that is wrong, and we must reverse it.

00:17:45.000 We need to make it, we should make it easier to be able to own homes.

00:17:48.000 We should celebrate marriage.

00:17:49.000 We need to have more children in this country, we need to have more babies, and we need to reverse the fertility collapse because we're having less and less kids, and it's a major problem for everybody.

00:17:58.000 We need to celebrate that idea that family is the foundational fabric of the United States of America.

00:18:03.000 And finally, even on top of that, you look at the other kind of current dynamics of the affordability crisis and how things have becoming routinely more expensive.

00:18:12.000 The answer to all of this is not gonna be like Zoran Mam Donny, government run grocery stores in New York City.

00:18:19.000 You know what the answer is?

00:18:20.000 The answer is getting the government off of all of your backs, deregulation, lower taxes, empowering entrepreneurs so you guys can create value, create wealth, and make America a better country.

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00:19:37.000 With that, let's do some questions, guys, and thank you for warmly welcoming me.

00:19:44.000 Thank you.

00:19:45.000 I don't know the process of questions.

00:19:47.000 Um I'm here to learn, listen, and uh we can have a good dialogue.

00:19:52.000 Um agree, disagree, whatever.

00:19:54.000 Um I take no offense whatsoever if you guys disagree with what I have to say.

00:19:54.000 I don't care.

00:19:58.000 I do it professionally.

00:20:00.000 I visit college campuses, so you guys don't have to.

00:20:02.000 So I alright, let's do some questions.

00:20:05.000 I don't know the process here.

00:20:06.000 I'm sure they have some mic runners here.

00:20:08.000 Yep, right there.

00:20:09.000 And thank you guys for being so polite and welcoming to me.

00:20:12.000 Yes, sir.

00:20:12.000 It means a lot.

00:20:13.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:20:14.000 So I'm uh I'm a chain breaking, grow up in the barrio, own multiple eight-figure uh companies who has a high school education.

00:20:23.000 And I want to thank you for your conservative uh position on uh uh what you talk about.

00:20:29.000 But one thing I wanted to point out is my wife and I many years ago, we have compassion for you know the children that come over the border and what have you.

00:20:37.000 And what I hear a lot is um there are a lot of Americans who talk about, you know, we need to do all these programs, we need to do all this.

00:20:45.000 I'm the father to three Costa Ricans, one Chinese, and two biological children.

00:20:50.000 And when we want to talk about how we help the children, how about we put our money where our mouth is and go bring them home and make them uh our children and then grow them up in the greatest uh country ever?

00:21:01.000 Well, God bless you, and thank you for your great heart.

00:21:03.000 You you you you have lived it more than just said it.

00:21:05.000 God bless you.

00:21:06.000 Thank you.

00:21:08.000 We'll keep uh, yes, sir.

00:21:10.000 We we have a ton of time for questions, guys.

00:21:11.000 So we got like 40 minutes, yeah.

00:21:13.000 Hey Charlie, uh man, I'm a huge fan, been following you for a while.

00:21:17.000 I got a kind of an off question.

00:21:19.000 So both of my parents are like liberals on steroids.

00:21:24.000 And I just wanted to ask you, what would what do you think would be the most tactical way uh just to try to get them to see our side?

00:21:34.000 And because I I do believe it's not, you know, they're they're baby boomers, and it's not a Democrat isn't the same thing as it was 50 years ago. 0.91

00:21:41.000 So what would be some simple things that you would suggest if you were in the same situation as I. Got it.

00:21:45.000 So first thing is cut off their CNN subscription, right?

00:21:48.000 You just gotta cut that off.

00:21:49.000 So that's step one.

00:21:51.000 Uh step two is just ask questions and then try to try to see what it is their objection is.

00:21:57.000 And I don't, I mean, I could figure it out pretty quick.

00:22:00.000 It's either is it values or is it tone?

00:22:02.000 And that's a very important thing.

00:22:04.000 Are you upset with the current status because you don't like us the way a certain person is acting or speaking?

00:22:09.000 Or is it because you do not share the worldview of what they're trying to accomplish?

00:22:13.000 Those are two separate arguments, right?

00:22:15.000 And sometimes they get conflated.

00:22:17.000 Someone says, I don't like the president because I don't like the way he talks.

00:22:20.000 Okay, but do you like what he stands for, what he does?

00:22:22.000 Then we can have a separate conversation, right?

00:22:22.000 Yes.

00:22:24.000 So those are two different things.

00:22:26.000 But I would ask them, is it the secure southern border they don't like, Or is it like the six wars ended that they don't like or the massive tax cut that they don't like or drill baby drill or like no more DEI or wokeness or like no transgender surgery for kids?

00:22:40.000 Like which one in particular are they really fired up about?

00:22:43.000 And then happen happy Thanksgiving is what I have to say to you.

00:22:45.000 So thank you.

00:22:47.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:22:48.000 Thank you.

00:22:54.000 Hi Charlie, how are you doing, man?

00:22:56.000 I uh I think that uh you and I are a lot alike, and I really appreciate everything that you're doing here today.

00:23:01.000 And uh uh I run a nonprofit as well, and I know you do as well.

00:23:05.000 And I think that uh one of the awards that we can get as a nonprofit is the transparency award, right?

00:23:11.000 So I think that how can we be more transparent, you know, in uh delegating those dollars and what it would possibly look like to be able to create a system that I'm currently working on, actually, to be able to implement that into the government's tax system, where you know, say the government would be uh able to be awarded a transparency award like you or I that is you know,

00:23:34.000 so you know, like just the taxes and what if we were all knew exactly where our taxes were going to the exact dollar and we were excited about paying taxes.

00:23:48.000 Boy, that would be something, wouldn't it?

00:23:50.000 Um we need to put every federal cent online in real time so that we could track it.

00:23:55.000 The best solution I think is blockchain.

00:23:57.000 Bringing blockchain technology to the federal government is the best and only solution.

00:24:02.000 And I say that after a lot of years of research and thinking, it's a very simple, easy solution.

00:24:07.000 It's transparent, it's bulletproof, it's end-to-end encrypted, it's also a way to restore trust.

00:24:13.000 Also, our voting should be secured by blockchain as well.

00:24:16.000 It would restore integrity back to our elections.

00:24:19.000 So, and then finally, um, there should be no black box budgets in the federal government.

00:24:24.000 There should be no place where we don't know where the money is going.

00:24:26.000 We should know down to the Snickers bar that the Central Intelligence Agency is buying.

00:24:31.000 Because here's the problem.

00:24:32.000 They act as if it's their money that we've loaned from that they're they're loaning from us, or vice versa.

00:24:38.000 Like, no, no.

00:24:39.000 It's our money that they take from us, and they have to take it for good reason, and then they have to prove it, and then they have to keep on year after year show us why they have to keep on taking so much money from us.

00:24:49.000 And so I think we need a whole different framing of how taxation happens in this country.

00:24:54.000 Thank you very much.

00:24:55.000 Thank you.

00:24:55.000 God bless you.

00:24:59.000 Hey, Charlie, thank you so much for being here.

00:25:01.000 I'll love the heck out of you.

00:25:02.000 I just have one question that I know a lot of us have a burning question for.

00:25:06.000 For one, I'm half Mexican myself, my family's been here since the 1800s.

00:25:10.000 Do you feel with all the technology and the the intelligence we have that there is a way to take the illegals that are here working their off, providing for the families? 1.00

00:25:21.000 Is there a way, should there be, of course, should there be?

00:25:24.000 Is there a way to make it streamlined to make it efficient that we don't have to strip them and throw them back to Mexico or wherever they came from? 0.99

00:25:31.000 Because we do, I think, would understand the mathematics that the next big hurricane that hits, they're continuing to strip our workers off the roofs and send them back, who the hell is gonna do the work?

00:25:41.000 Do you think there's a a safe way we can do that?

00:25:44.000 So this is um so why don't you educate me of what mass port mass deportations would do to your industry?

00:25:53.000 There'd be no one to work on the to build back.

00:25:55.000 We already we've already seen it.

00:25:58.000 So then allow me to provocatively then help have me tell you how I hear it.

00:26:02.000 Are you telling me everyone in this room is hiring illegal labor?

00:26:06.000 Not everyone, but uh defin I I know I have in the past.

00:26:11.000 Okay, so everyone is saying yes.

00:26:14.000 So and again, you guys can boo me off stage, and I want to respectfully have it, and if I'm wrong, come to the mic.

00:26:20.000 So is everyone here in this room committing a felony?

00:26:23.000 Yes.

00:26:24.000 Okay, good to know.

00:26:28.000 But but do you think that there is a way that we could instead of going stripping people off a roofs?

00:26:36.000 Well, so let me ask a different question.

00:26:38.000 What do you think the penalty should be for illegally coming into America?

00:26:43.000 Whatever's already in Right.

00:26:45.000 So the penalty is returned to your country of origin. 0.98

00:26:49.000 Right.

00:26:49.000 Again, I'm not I want someone, again, my opinion is one that I want to learn from you guys about the real life implications, right?

00:26:57.000 I have an opinion that is very simple.

00:26:59.000 We have not yet even had a year of immigration enforcement.

00:27:03.000 We've had 40 years of non-enforcement, and we're already freaking out.

00:27:07.000 I'm asking for one year.

00:27:09.000 We obviously as a country don't have the stomach for that.

00:27:12.000 We don't have the ability or the capacity.

00:27:15.000 And that's I'm gonna be the one that's gonna hold the line and say, hey, the American people should at least get one year of what they voted for.

00:27:21.000 And I understand it might cause a lot of disruption, but call me old-fashioned.

00:27:26.000 I think that if you break into somebody's home, you shouldn't be allowed to stay.

00:27:30.000 Appreciate you, Charlie.

00:27:30.000 Thank you.

00:27:31.000 Good answer, but thank you.

00:27:32.000 And again, I want to keep a spirit of learning here.

00:27:34.000 I'm not trying, I like I understand from your perspective, this is existential.

00:27:38.000 So please, yes.

00:27:39.000 What up, Charlie?

00:27:40.000 How are you doing, man?

00:27:42.000 So I'm kind of piggybacking off of that because I completely understand and I agree with the laws.

00:27:50.000 It's like there's no gray area.

00:27:52.000 It's black or white.

00:27:54.000 You're either here legally or you're not.

00:27:56.000 And I've talked to some of my crew leaders about it because I mean, yeah, you've got ICE that has offices in certain areas and they're legit like getting in their vans or whatever it is, coming through neighborhoods and just sweeping people away, and then they're scared of work.

00:28:12.000 So it is a battle that we are uh experiencing in the field.

00:28:17.000 And I mean, I'm white, I don't want white people doing the roofs because we're, you know, I got people complaining it's hot outside.

00:28:25.000 So I I've talked to him and it's like, so is there a way to, if you deport them, to have them ready to come right back where they go through a certain system and filling things out?

00:28:37.000 Or technology where we can have people instead of removing them coming around to get them registered where they're here legally without sending them back.

00:28:47.000 So a couple thoughts.

00:28:48.000 Um three things, and thank you for the respectful remark.

00:28:51.000 Do you want to add something?

00:28:52.000 I know, but uh no, it's okay.

00:28:55.000 Yeah.

00:28:55.000 Okay, fine.

00:28:56.000 So so just three thoughts on that.

00:28:58.000 Number one, uh, I'm not the president of the United States, um, so I'm not calling shots on this.

00:29:02.000 Um I'm a commentator, so just kind of keep that in mind.

00:29:05.000 The president, however, has signaled that he does want to work with business to figure this out, right?

00:29:11.000 Charlie Kirk's opinion is one more of that is represented by voters and grassroots that have said we have we have completely ignored the enforcement of law for 40 years at great cost to public services, national unity, and you can't deny that.

00:29:26.000 No, for sure, right?

00:29:27.000 So I think everyone here in this room can understand the perspective I'm coming from.

00:29:31.000 Secondly, I want to just say no, I know this is gonna fall on deaf ears.

00:29:36.000 No one wants to see anybody in this room.

00:29:38.000 The intent is not to make your your life harder.

00:29:41.000 It might end up being a byproduct.

00:29:44.000 The intent is we allowed 12 million people in a span of four years to flood into the country, right?

00:29:51.000 From a hundred different countries.

00:29:53.000 If we do not go to dramatic measures to fix it, then we're not a we're not a nation.

00:29:58.000 We're we're something completely else.

00:30:00.000 So you're to your to your point, though.

00:30:02.000 The president has his own opinion and his own perspective, and he's getting calls from both sides, right?

00:30:07.000 He's getting a lot of calls from industry, from restaurants, hotels, and let me just tell you from my perspective, and again, I think this will be educational.

00:30:14.000 This is like the third or fourth event I've spoken at like this in the last couple of months, and every event I speak at, everybody has a similar thing.

00:30:21.000 Charlie, my restaurant is gonna shut down, Charlie, my golf course is gonna shut down, Charlie Disney World is gonna shut down, you know.

00:30:28.000 And at some point I say, wow, like the in I guess this is like apocalypse like on steroids.

00:30:34.000 Here's my other perspective, and you guys are gonna be in total like opposition to this.

00:30:40.000 I'm a little bit skeptical when I hear the over-catastrophization of events after we have been led like at maximal catastrophization at every corner in our country.

00:30:50.000 Now, as far as President Trump, he's talked about expedited getting people in legally and expanding visas.

00:30:56.000 My opinion is actually different than that one, but doesn't matter what I believe because I'm not president.

00:31:00.000 All I'm asking for is just one year out of four to see how can we enforce the laws.

00:31:06.000 But I think we're really reaching an important conclusion as a country.

00:31:09.000 We are reliant, addicted, and okay with illegal labor in this country.

00:31:14.000 It's just the way it is.

00:31:15.000 And that's been a sad realization for me.

00:31:17.000 I would love to be a nation like Mexico that doesn't put up with it, but it turns out our nation has been so reliant on it for nearly 40 years. 0.88

00:31:25.000 But again, I don't want to try to target you guys in the room here or um throw opposition To you.

00:31:30.000 Yes, you want to find a comment.

00:31:31.000 Yeah, it's it's just it's been the norm for so long.

00:31:34.000 And it hasn't really been addressed on this level because I mean we all know certain presidency let every single person in that you could possibly imagine.

00:31:44.000 So I get both sides, but it's just finding something strategic that makes sense.

00:31:48.000 I hear you.

00:31:49.000 And again, I I think I think the president um is very sympathetic to your message for sure.

00:31:49.000 Yeah.

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00:33:05.000 Yes, sir.

00:33:06.000 Ma'am, do you want to follow up on that?

00:33:07.000 Yes, please.

00:33:09.000 She she wanted to just um sorry.

00:33:11.000 I before the subject changes entirely, I wanted to add a different perspective.

00:33:14.000 So, Charlie, first, we are 99.9% aligned on every word you say, but this is the stance where we're a little bit different.

00:33:22.000 And I say that because I want to really quick a question for you.

00:33:26.000 Can someone who's not a U.S. citizen serve in the United States military?

00:33:30.000 Can they serve the the United States in the military?

00:33:32.000 They shouldn't be allowed to, but no.

00:33:34.000 But they can.

00:33:35.000 Correct.

00:33:35.000 But they they actually are serving in police forces, but you're correct, they can.

00:33:38.000 So have a very, very, very dear friend who I consider family at this point, who served as a United States Marine for twelve years and has been denied American citizenship five times.

00:33:49.000 It's taken him tens of thousands of dollars.

00:33:51.000 But you just said they can't serve in the military.

00:33:53.000 Yes, they can.

00:33:54.000 But no, uh, if you he can serve in the United States military if you're not a U.S. citizen.

00:33:59.000 You can serve your country and die for the United States of America and still be denied your U.S. citizens.

00:34:03.000 Interesting, I didn't know that.

00:34:04.000 And so the reason, and this goes back to this gentleman over here who's gonna have a really hard time at Thanksgiving talking to his parents.

00:34:10.000 Haven't talked to my father in years over Zach conversation because there's so many nuances to the way immigration works right now.

00:34:17.000 And as Texans really close to the border, you experience it a little bit different, right?

00:34:21.000 So that said, if we focused, are you you tell me what you think about this?

00:34:27.000 If we focused even a percentage of the efforts and time and thought and energy into the policy reform for immigration that we're putting into just really quick, fast, everybody out as fast as you can.

00:34:39.000 Do you think that would have um a similar obviously there's gonna have to be some corrective measures that take place?

00:34:45.000 But yeah, again, I I'm a call me old school and call me radical.

00:34:49.000 We haven't even had a couple months of enforcement, and everyone's losing their mind.

00:34:52.000 And I think that's kind of telling.

00:34:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:54.000 And again, I'm just saying that it's a revealing moment that we have a whole shadow economy that operates.

00:35:01.000 What I would love for you guys is to have a workforce, thank you.

00:35:04.000 Um have a workforce that you guys don't have to worry about.

00:35:08.000 And I do also want to say, like, Trump ran on this.

00:35:12.000 It's fundamental towards the idea of elections that when you ran on something run on something, people should get it.

00:35:18.000 And he did say repeatedly mass deportations, mass deportations.

00:35:22.000 And at the very least, I think we could all agree that if you came across under Biden, you should go.

00:35:26.000 That's 12 million people.

00:35:28.000 If you if you disagree at that, I'm like, boy, you think you should just be able to come in in the last four years and stay?

00:35:32.000 Maybe we could agree on that.

00:35:34.000 Again, I visit, I travel the world, a lot of you guys understand this perspective, which is we have we have immigration laws that nobody else has across the world.

00:35:44.000 We're a very generous country.

00:35:45.000 A lot of you guys came here legally and you came here the right way.

00:35:48.000 But if we are honest with ourselves, that generosity has been taken advantage of.

00:35:52.000 For sure.

00:35:52.000 It has.

00:35:53.000 It has been scammed with chain migration, and all I am saying, all I'm introducing Is just a a season of correction.

00:36:03.000 And we're not even six months into that correction.

00:36:06.000 And I think that it shows that we as a nation don't have the stomach to do the disciplinary measures to rebalance it.

00:36:13.000 But to your friend who served, God bless him, and uh if I can help any way, we'll talk privately.

00:36:17.000 Okay.

00:36:18.000 Can I ask you your thoughts on the current, like, the policy for getting citizenship?

00:36:23.000 What are your thoughts on that?

00:36:24.000 Oh, I I do not I do not support citizenship for anyone here that's illegally illegal. 0.94

00:36:28.000 Yeah.

00:36:28.000 I I'm I'm I'm an I'm an old-fashioned radical that if you come if you come here illegally, you have cut in line from another immigrant or someone that had to come here correctly.

00:36:38.000 And I call me a stickler.

00:36:40.000 I think federal immigration law matters, and I think if you don't follow it and if you don't adhere laws, we should not make special accommodations for them.

00:36:47.000 So thank you very much.

00:36:48.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:36:51.000 Hey.

00:36:53.000 Hey, Charlie, uh over here in the center.

00:36:56.000 Yes, sir, yes, thank you.

00:36:57.000 Yeah.

00:36:57.000 Uh first and foremost, I am a college graduate, but I absolutely love spending every single morning when I'm having my coffee, watching you decimate these new college.

00:37:06.000 It is just a highlight of my morning, and it is just fantastic because when I was in college, I don't remember kids being this pompous and d that being said, switching the subject slightly.

00:37:18.000 What is your position?

00:37:20.000 And and uh uh you know, you have a room full of for the most part blue-collar guys here, guys and women.

00:37:26.000 Uh what is your position on the the lobbyists of this country, specifically the insurance lobby, because it's kind of hard to to make your business and be a great entrepreneur when multi-trillion dollar enterprises are bashing your every step of the way to become successful in life.

00:37:44.000 And why hasn't President Trump, in your opinion, made this a more pertinent issue in the country?

00:37:49.000 I think he should and can.

00:37:50.000 I think we can all agree that that a small subset of companies constantly lobbying for their own interests is really bad for us, and it decreases the amount of voice that everyday Americans have.

00:38:03.000 One that I I believe in that I think is not con I don't think there's any representative here, but you never know.

00:38:08.000 They seem to be everywhere is I don't understand why we have pharmaceutical advertisements on television.

00:38:12.000 I don't understand it.

00:38:13.000 I don't think we should have it.

00:38:15.000 Um I think this ties in actually to some of your industry guys.

00:38:20.000 As you represent roofers, these are hard-working, really awesome people that get hurt.

00:38:25.000 And when they get hurt, all of a sudden the first thing that is always offered to them is some sort of either opioid or opioid equivalent pharmaceutical drug.

00:38:33.000 I bet you in this audience, many of you guys have had employees that work for you that got hurt, got addicted to opioids and had a really rough life, or maybe even died afterwards.

00:38:42.000 Do you guys have similar stories like that?

00:38:44.000 Your brother, yeah.

00:38:45.000 And one of the lobbies that I'm really focused on trying to diminish and break is the pharmaceutical drug lobby.

00:38:52.000 We take way too many drugs in this country.

00:38:54.000 We have we have way too much adherence to the pharmaceutical lobby.

00:38:57.000 I'm a big believer in making America healthy again.

00:39:00.000 Um yes, sir.

00:39:01.000 Yeah.

00:39:01.000 So I was Don't tell me you work for Pfizer.

00:39:03.000 Oh God, no.

00:39:04.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:39:06.000 Uh no, I'm I'm speaking more to the property insurance side of things.

00:39:09.000 So that they're bad too.

00:39:11.000 Yeah, okay, got it.

00:39:12.000 So um I I I agree with everything you said on the pharmacy.

00:39:16.000 No insight into that, but I'm sure they're terrible.

00:39:17.000 So they're absolutely horrible.

00:39:20.000 God bless you.

00:39:21.000 Uh I'd be happy to meet you, sir, and thank you for the support.

00:39:24.000 But uh property insurance lobby.

00:39:27.000 Got it.

00:39:28.000 I will I will do more research on that.

00:39:29.000 Yes, sir.

00:39:30.000 Yeah.

00:39:30.000 All right, Charlie.

00:39:31.000 Um hate to bring stuff back to immigration, but uh, you know, I'm a representative of Win the Storm, and I think I recognize and I agree with you that there's a problem. 0.88

00:39:40.000 It is black and white.

00:39:42.000 But I'm gonna admit it that we've created the problem for years, for decades, we've used illegal immigration as proof and curves. 0.83

00:39:50.000 That's there's no question behind that.

00:39:53.000 But now, how do we come together?

00:39:55.000 We've got a very strong community here, and we're trying to come together to really make that community better.

00:40:01.000 What would our first step be to fix the immigration? 0.99

00:40:05.000 Not the ones committing the crimes now, but to get them in before they commit the crime so we can use those type of crews.

00:40:13.000 So I I will speak, I I will tell you what I think the president is thinking on this.

00:40:17.000 Who cares what I think, right?

00:40:18.000 Because he's the one that's gonna make the decisions.

00:40:20.000 The president's view is he wants to try to make sure that businesses are not abruptly just taken apart because of him also fulfilling the mandate.

00:40:29.000 He has said he Wants to try to either create space or create time.

00:40:34.000 At the same at the while also simultaneously saying that, I think everyone here in this audience, my advice to you guys, I think that there needs to be more automation when it comes in all your industries, right?

00:40:43.000 And I mean, you look at I I don't know the specifics of roofing in the sense of automation, but as far as building homes, a lot of other countries, the Chinese, the Japanese, the Singaporeans, they're able to build homes in a week, basically all with robotics and computerized labor in a very, very impressive way.

00:40:59.000 We're way, way behind in that way.

00:41:01.000 So what is my advice for all of you guys?

00:41:03.000 First of all, I would try to hire American the best you can, get really involved in your local high school and go back to your local high school and push and lobby them for a roofing trade to be offered in high school.

00:41:14.000 I think it's very, very important.

00:41:16.000 And then look, you guys have a very strong opinion on it.

00:41:19.000 We might not agree on it.

00:41:21.000 But the great thing about this country is you guys might win and go have your voice be heard, and you have a president, despite what the media says, he's a very he's a realist, he's a builder, and he will listen to you, right?

00:41:32.000 And I think that he he comes from a perspective where he wants to see America strong and built while also you know kind of fulfilling that mandate.

00:41:39.000 So you guys could not ask for a better president in that.

00:41:42.000 And the final thing, I want to come up with a solution that if I'm invited to speak back four years from now, we don't have to talk about this anymore.

00:41:49.000 Yes.

00:41:49.000 I want to just be like, okay, we came up with a solution.

00:41:52.000 It it is it is rooted in what we ran on, it's rooted in common sense, it's rooted in a pro-business, but also a mandate of the rule of law, and then we can kind of put it to bed and we say that issue is solved, and then we can go on to you know, let's say other pastures, because the problem is we don't want this to be a continuous issue for multiple decades, it's not good for anybody.

00:42:11.000 So thank you, sir.

00:42:12.000 Really appreciate it.

00:42:13.000 Thank you.

00:42:17.000 Hey Charlie, my name's Davy.

00:42:19.000 I'm uh probably your biggest fan here.

00:42:21.000 Um I've listened to you, watched your reels.

00:42:23.000 I've stay up at night to my wives are rolling back of my head watching them. 1.00

00:42:27.000 Um I just want to point out another angle.

00:42:29.000 Like my mom, she's an immigrant, she comes from Spain uh in 1977. 0.96

00:42:35.000 Some of the earliest memories of my life is like my mom and dad having talks in the kitchen, they were gonna have to drive down to St. Louis to try to get the green card renewed.

00:42:42.000 And they were gonna like every time they'd be afraid she wouldn't get to, and they'd kind of prep me on.

00:42:46.000 Well, mom might leave. 0.99

00:42:47.000 So I just want to point that out that we went through that for 44 years until she finally got her citizenship and she put work in and and it cost tens of thousands of dollars.

00:42:56.000 She learned the language.

00:42:57.000 And she learned the language, and and it was the proudest moment of her life was the day that she got her citizenship.

00:43:03.000 And so, yeah.

00:43:06.000 And being your biggest fan, the proudest moment in my life would be right now if you would agree to let me come look at your roof, or just put I got a lot of problems with my roof.

00:43:24.000 So listen, or let one of your people take my info, like I will drive no matter how far it is, give you the most legitimate inspection.

00:43:32.000 I'm serious, I'm not playing one bit.

00:43:33.000 It would be the highlight of my life you got a deal, all right?

00:43:39.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:43:42.000 Who do I get your address from?

00:43:44.000 I got a team over here, but I I hope you enjoy Arizona because I don't live in Dallas.

00:43:48.000 I don't care where it's at, I'm going.

00:43:49.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:43:50.000 Thank you, sir.

00:43:51.000 Great to meet you.

00:43:52.000 Thank you for the wonderful words.

00:43:53.000 And your mom's a great story.

00:43:54.000 We need more people like your mom. 0.99

00:43:56.000 God bless you.

00:43:56.000 Thank you.

00:43:57.000 I think we're doing question lines now, or we're going right here.

00:43:59.000 Yes, sir.

00:44:00.000 We got about 20 minutes remaining, guys.

00:44:02.000 Thank you.

00:44:02.000 Thank you for being so respectful.

00:44:03.000 Yes.

00:44:04.000 I I have a two-part question.

00:44:06.000 First and foremost, I just want to pray God's blessing and protection on you and your family.

00:44:11.000 You definitely seem to find yourself in harm's way sometimes on those college campuses.

00:44:16.000 So we do appreciate you.

00:44:18.000 So I'm I'm kind of uh in a in a weird nexus.

00:44:22.000 I'm very conservative.

00:44:24.000 I'm not a fan of amnesty.

00:44:25.000 I don't believe in birthright citizenship, but I find myself the nexus of this because my son married an illegal immigrant. 0.76

00:44:34.000 She overstayed her visa.

00:44:36.000 I now have a grandson.

00:44:38.000 So my question is like I'm feeling very conflicted to be totally honest with you.

00:44:43.000 And then a second sort of related question, it's like I've got now extended family that's essentially the construction industry, and I think they're a little bit underpaid.

00:44:53.000 So I think some of us are taking advantage of depressed wages, and maybe the markets do a correction.

00:44:59.000 I don't know, that's Probably not a popular opinion, but maybe you could comment on that.

00:45:04.000 Well, I mean, you said the second part, I didn't.

00:45:06.000 So I mean, wait wages have certainly not gone up, but I mean, look, for business owners, your costs have also gone up.

00:45:10.000 I'm not here to tell you how to run your business.

00:45:12.000 I'm not even a comment on that.

00:45:13.000 Um, what you what you're what you're getting at, though, is a very important moral conundrum, which is where what you believe and what you know is right is sometimes in contradiction with what you are seeing up close and personal.

00:45:25.000 As far as the sun situation, I'd have to think about it.

00:45:28.000 I think a visa overstay, if you marry, you can get that rectified.

00:45:32.000 I don't know.

00:45:32.000 Maybe I know you're nodding your head, but I'm not totally sure.

00:45:36.000 Look, as far as I I don't know how to quite give you advice on that, which is that you need to have your principles and believe what you believe.

00:45:44.000 And I mean, yeah, I don't quite have much more to say than that.

00:45:48.000 I mean, as far as the other component of increased wages, the the con the middle of the American middle class has been battered the last 30 or 40 years, and part of it is because of our bad trade policies.

00:45:59.000 And honestly, also part of it is that we've seen depressed wages.

00:46:02.000 When you have more workers that are able to flood the market, wages go down.

00:46:06.000 And um a lot of you guys in this this room, I know are on very, very, very tight margins.

00:46:11.000 I understand it.

00:46:12.000 I appreciate it.

00:46:14.000 But at some point we have to decouple with this shadow economy. 0.98

00:46:17.000 Nobody in this room, I think, would think, would believe that a shadow economy that operates when you don't know who they are or what's happening is good.

00:46:26.000 Doesn't make, by the way, you guys operate on one word.

00:46:29.000 The best business owners, you guys thrive on stability.

00:46:32.000 There's nothing stable about having a shadow economy of people that could leave at any time.

00:46:36.000 So fixing that long term, I think adds that kind of confidence, that kind of stability.

00:46:40.000 So I'm gonna have to think more about your first part of your question, though.

00:46:42.000 But thank you, sir, and thank you for the kind words.

00:46:44.000 Yes.

00:46:45.000 Charlie, how are we doing, man?

00:46:47.000 So uh my question actually moves a little bit away from the immigration discussion.

00:46:52.000 What you open the speech talking about was the youth in America today and the way that they're brought up and the way that they're moving forward.

00:47:00.000 I myself find myself the father of three girls, which is super fun.

00:47:05.000 Uh, but the role models that I find myself trying to surround my daughters with don't exist outside of them thinking they can be a teacher or a nurse or these very traditional jobs when I look across this room at some bad powerful women in here that are doing amazing things. 1.00

00:47:25.000 Am I right? 0.98

00:47:27.000 How do you suggest someone in my position helps kind of raise a family, especially of women to be kind of empowered in that way that they go get a damn summer job. 1.00

00:47:38.000 Um great question. 0.96

00:47:40.000 Well, first of all, if you know those role models, introduce your daughters to them immediately. 0.72

00:47:44.000 And then also be very conscious of the type of celebrity role models they're also following.

00:47:50.000 Um far too often these young ladies are following female influencers that embrace this widespread degeneracy and anti-Christian behavior. 1.00

00:47:59.000 I'm a I'm a I'm a girl dad too, uh only three years old, but you know, um very much thinking about these sort of things.

00:48:06.000 And for for young ladies, far too often we see the kind of role models by the time they're eight, nine, and ten, and that that is that they're they're not positive, they're not uplifting, they're not wholesome.

00:48:17.000 So I think you know, looking at female entrepreneurs, female business owners, um, and then also in my other piece of advice is bring your daughter to work with you. 1.00

00:48:27.000 Very, very good piece of advice.

00:48:29.000 Have her see you working, involve her in it.

00:48:31.000 Give her a task, give her a job, see that it's important, see that it's valued.

00:48:35.000 I know that really worked for me growing up when my dad brought me to work.

00:48:38.000 I encourage that for all of you guys that are business owners.

00:48:40.000 Bring your kids to work and involve them in the business.

00:48:42.000 And then my dad made me work construction sites.

00:48:45.000 He was an architect.

00:48:46.000 I work construction sites, it was fun, it was great.

00:48:48.000 And it was character building.

00:48:50.000 We need to get back to that, including for our daughters as well.

00:48:53.000 Thank you so much.

00:48:54.000 Appreciate it.

00:48:54.000 Thank you.

00:48:55.000 Thank you.

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00:50:00.000 Hey Charlie, uh big fan of yours.

00:50:02.000 I grew up in Buffalo Grove.

00:50:04.000 So I remember when you first got started.

00:50:06.000 You go to Buffalo Grove High School?

00:50:07.000 No, um Stevenson.

00:50:08.000 We want where?

00:50:09.000 Stevenson.

00:50:09.000 Oh, geez, yeah.

00:50:11.000 Um but yeah, I mean, like I've seen you kind of start a turning point from nothing, build it to um what it is.

00:50:17.000 I was curious, like your biggest piece of advice for somebody who wants to build a massive organization like you have.

00:50:22.000 The bet so thank you for that.

00:50:24.000 So if you are in a growth model, a growth period, let's say you're five million dollars in revenue, three million dollars, four million, six million dollars.

00:50:32.000 I remember when we were we we're about 130 million dollars in revenue now with all of our nonprofit and all that.

00:50:37.000 Praise God, right?

00:50:38.000 And it's we have uh 500,000 donors.

00:50:42.000 You could call them customers, but they're really donors, people that check in ten dollars, fifteen dollars, and I bet some people in this room are part of that, and bringing this kind of message to college campuses and high school campuses.

00:50:52.000 The biggest inflection point is where you are presented with an opportunity to hire someone a little more than you can afford that you know will help you scale.

00:51:02.000 People will help you scale.

00:51:04.000 To get from a five million dollar business to a 25 million dollar business to a hundred million dollar business, you're going to have to pay up for the people that can get you there.

00:51:13.000 And you know exactly what I'm talking about, especially in the C suite and in the sales division.

00:51:19.000 Those two places people that have the grit, the work ethic, and the experience.

00:51:23.000 And I could say that from personal experience.

00:51:25.000 When we were right around five or seven million, I used the small little money I had to go pay for people that I otherwise couldn't afford.

00:51:30.000 I didn't take a salary the first five or six years as I was running the organization just because I try to invest all the money back into it.

00:51:36.000 Um the final the other thing though, and I I'm sure you guys know this and you have it, is having very crisply defined missional statements and cultural values, and make sure that everyone knows the why behind what you are doing, and make sure that you have a code of conduct that is presently and publicly always available that people can buy into that's no more than maybe eight to ten points.

00:51:59.000 You don't want it to be like 50.

00:52:00.000 Here's the 55 cultural items that we have at you know, Ajax roofing, like whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:52:05.000 Like if no one's gonna read that.

00:52:06.000 And but also make sure your team is invested in that growth.

00:52:11.000 Make sure that they know that you want to grow.

00:52:15.000 Because not everyone that works for you guys even like cares that much about it.

00:52:18.000 They want to get a job, they want okay, get a job, get paid, go home.

00:52:21.000 But if they know that there's a direction, there is growth to it, that they could have higher incomes and even a little bit of piece of the equity, that makes a that makes a major difference.

00:52:29.000 And so finally, those of you that are founders, those of you that are CEOs, for the first couple of years, this definitely needs to be true.

00:52:37.000 I still try to make this true.

00:52:38.000 You need to work harder than your employees.

00:52:41.000 Especially when you are in that one to ten million dollar revenue.

00:52:44.000 You do not have the luxury of delegating too much.

00:52:48.000 You need to be the hardest working employee at your organization or at your company, even more so than the people that are working for you if you want to scale, if you want to scale.

00:52:56.000 Thank you so much.

00:52:57.000 Really appreciate it.

00:52:58.000 Great question.

00:53:01.000 Charlie?

00:53:02.000 I want to share uh different type of frustration as an immigrant.

00:53:06.000 First of all, love this country, the best country on the planet.

00:53:09.000 I've been here for 20 years.

00:53:12.000 In 20 years, I have received two government checks.

00:53:15.000 One was 2008, Obama stimulus check, and I think 2020.

00:53:20.000 Checks I didn't ask for.

00:53:22.000 Uh I sponsored to be uh for my parents to come here about 10 years ago, so they cannot apply for government help and stuff like that.

00:53:31.000 Both me and my uh my parents, my wife's parents, immigrants, they all work super hard.

00:53:36.000 Here's the frustration part.

00:53:37.000 I live in Minnesota.

00:53:39.000 In 2023, Minnesota spends nearly 46,000 per person in poverty on public welfare and stuff like that.

00:53:48.000 I know a lot of immigrants in this country and a lot of poor people.

00:53:51.000 I and my question to you how do we cut back on supporting the lazy behavior?

00:53:57.000 My wife is a therapist, and you know, People come to her, like 20, 22 years old from Somali, Ukraine, you know, uh Africa, and I'm like, how do they can afford you?

00:54:08.000 She's like, government pays for it. 1.00

00:54:10.000 Me and you pay for it.

00:54:11.000 I'm like, my parents cannot freaking pay, they get massages, they get I mean, they get everything.

00:54:16.000 Forty-six thousand dollars per person.

00:54:18.000 I remember I was making 20,000 a year.

00:54:21.000 My daughter is 17 years old making 15 bucks an hour. 0.99

00:54:24.000 There's plenty of work for everyone.

00:54:26.000 As a business owner, how do I compete with you know people I know immigrants who don't want to do what I do, don't want to do construction jobs because they can get housing, they can get food, they can get stamps, they can get everything. 0.99

00:54:40.000 How do we count back this BS in this country?

00:54:44.000 I like you.

00:54:45.000 Um I will I will second something I said earlier, which is that so the may the major so for social welfare state is hurting your businesses, everybody.

00:54:57.000 People can get money from the government, so they do not enter the job market.

00:55:01.000 I will just make one other point on the immigration thing.

00:55:03.000 You mentioned the Somalian thing.

00:55:05.000 Most Somalians that I've seen in public office and otherwise, we are not seeing assimilation.

00:55:10.000 And I just want to say a pr a major part of immigration is that you must assimilate to the nation that you are coming in.

00:55:17.000 You must learn the language, respect the flag, and you assimilate to the United States like you, sir.

00:55:22.000 I mean, you're you're assimilating.

00:55:24.000 And we must demand assimilation. 0.97

00:55:26.000 Because assimilate uh immigration without assimilation is an invasion. 0.97

00:55:29.000 Uh, as far as the social welfare, look, I don't think you should be able to get government benefits unless you're a U.S. citizen.

00:55:34.000 That solves it pretty quickly.

00:55:36.000 That if you are here as a visitor, why should you be able to get benefits from the United States government?

00:55:40.000 That should be for U.S. citizens only. 0.96

00:55:42.000 Finally, I think we need more work requirements, and we need to be far less open of the amount of money the government pays for people not to work.

00:55:50.000 We have low employment, we have job openings, we should not have the social welfare programs that we have in our nation right now.

00:55:57.000 And that that is just the tip of the iceberg, my friend, of one example of thousands that we could go through.

00:56:02.000 Because you know why?

00:56:03.000 Everybody in this room is in their office at 6 a.m., 7 a.m. at a job site to go pay taxes to go pay to other people that do not work.

00:56:11.000 It's not right, and we should cut it off.

00:56:13.000 Thank you so much.

00:56:14.000 I appreciate it.

00:56:15.000 Thank you.

00:56:21.000 Oh, yes, hello.

00:56:22.000 Hello.

00:56:23.000 Um, I'm gonna share this.

00:56:25.000 This comes from the National Reaping Contractor Association.

00:56:28.000 Construction industry is the number one highest suicide rate in the country right now.

00:56:35.000 And so I'm sharing a personal story and try not to get emotional.

00:56:39.000 My dad passed away of dementia, and so I learned a lot about the human brain during that process.

00:56:45.000 A year ago, our son came to us or came to the doctor, and we found out he was severely depressed.

00:56:53.000 Had he not come, he wouldn't be here today.

00:56:55.000 Thankfully, he is.

00:56:56.000 We learned so much about depression, what we thought was causes of depression and and what happens in the human body through this whole process the last year with our son.

00:57:07.000 And one thing that thankfully we learned is a lot of the things that we put in our body, his wasn't related to some event, his was related to different things that would were given to him over time that we had to get rid of in his body.

00:57:21.000 A friend of mine's son was diagnosed with something, and the doctor prescribed something where the first ingredient is the same first ingredient that's an antifreeze.

00:57:31.000 A doctor told a family to give their two-year-old something that is an antifreeze.

00:57:38.000 So my question is how can we solve this going forward?

00:57:42.000 How can we help each other and how can we be educated so this kind of stuff doesn't keep getting worse?

00:57:47.000 It's a great question.

00:57:48.000 So, all of you that run roofing companies or construction companies or both, I would encourage you.

00:57:53.000 There's a great doctor, his name's Dr. Daniel Aman, A-M-E-N.

00:57:58.000 If you guys know him, his whole perspective is less about mental health and it's about brain health, and it's really applies to all of you that are people in the muscular trades.

00:58:07.000 You guys would be shocked at how many people that are depressed and anxious that are just brain injured.

00:58:12.000 They might have a concussion, they might have had a traumatic brain injury, might be interfering with their um cerebellum, with their amygdala, very, very great doctor.

00:58:21.000 And his whole premise is so smart.

00:58:24.000 He says, Charlie, if you go to the heart doctor, what do they say?

00:58:27.000 We're going to scan your heart.

00:58:29.000 If you have a liver problem, they're gonna go do an MRI of your liver.

00:58:32.000 But if you say I have depression, they just give you and they give you pharmaceuticals.

00:58:36.000 And so he says, why aren't we scanning the brain to see if the brain is itself damaged as an organ?

00:58:41.000 We need to treat the organ of the brain first, and then we can see if there's underlying mental issues.

00:58:46.000 And what the issue, guys, and this is important, so many of you that guys that work for you, they have had their brains either damaged at work, at home, from smelling fumes, being out whatever it might be, and it's not their fault, it's not your fault, but they might actually have damaged organs and they don't even know it.

00:59:02.000 So this doctor is the best at it in the country.

00:59:04.000 He's Dr. Daniel Amen, like Amen, A M E N. He has a whole book on this. 1.00

00:59:09.000 Um and then, yeah, the final thing that I'll say is that um before look, I'm there's there's a ton of people that are on antidepressants right now.

00:59:18.000 Some people it works great, some people it doesn't.

00:59:21.000 And for the people that it doesn't, honestly, either they're they they have brain damage, or we should also just present other non far non-pharmaceutical options.

00:59:30.000 Loneliness epidemic is huge.

00:59:32.000 I think there's a spiritual crisis in this country that is happening, and we need people to go back to church and give their lives to Jesus Christ, which is the most important thing.

00:59:40.000 And so, and finally, this goes back to uh the the whole Maha thing, how you eat impacts your brain.

00:59:50.000 When you eat just garbage potato chips and Twinkies and brownies and McDonald's, it actually slows down your body's ability to process information.

01:00:00.000 Um if you, for example, if someone is depressed, if they go on a ketogenic diet, it could help.

01:00:06.000 It actually healthy fats, lean proteins, less comp less carbohydrates can be really good.

01:00:12.000 And I'm not here as a doctor to prescribe it.

01:00:14.000 I'm all I'm on I'm someone I had a terrible traumatic brain injury like six or seven years ago.

01:00:19.000 Um I was skiing, everyone said I had a fun time, I woke up in a hospital.

01:00:22.000 Um, and so I really learned a lot about this stuff, and you can it can get better.

01:00:26.000 That's a cool thing.

01:00:27.000 The organ, the brain is an organ that can get better.

01:00:29.000 And I think we need to start kind of talking about it because someone says, you think about how hard it is if you're a roofer and you're like a proud guy.

01:00:36.000 It's hard to be like, yeah, you know, I have mental health problems.

01:00:38.000 Like that's but imagine if you said, Yeah, my brain got hit.

01:00:41.000 That's actually a lot easier for someone to verbalize and vocalize.

01:00:44.000 It's it's a it's it's a way to have an introduction to a conversation, and um, we need to look at it as much as a damaged organ more than anything else.

01:00:52.000 Thank you so much.

01:00:52.000 We have time for two more, I think.

01:00:54.000 Yes.

01:00:55.000 Hey, what's up, Charlie?

01:00:57.000 Uh, so cool to have you here.

01:00:59.000 Big, big, big fan.

01:01:00.000 Uh, been watching you for a long time.

01:01:02.000 Uh, I'm not a blue-haired liberal that's uh gonna come up here and spew any kind of nonsense.

01:01:08.000 Um, but we do live this every day, right?

01:01:11.000 And I think everybody in this room has somebody on their crew that they love like family, like straight up family.

01:01:18.000 And I think you're like kind of your stance on if you came here illegally, period, you gotta go back.

01:01:23.000 It's a little much.

01:01:24.000 I think you need to come maybe spend some time with humans that are awesome human beings that I would I would lay down my life for some of these guys.

01:01:33.000 They move with us through the thick and thin, they kill themselves for us.

01:01:37.000 And let's not forget their job has 800% more likely to die on the job than a cop, an active duty cop, right, on the streets.

01:01:47.000 So they are serving their country, they are serving this country a lot more than anybody living on welfare that might have been born in America.

01:01:55.000 So that's just one point.

01:01:57.000 Um I think for you, I just think there's a lot of uh need for really strong leadership, and you do appeal to a lot of the youth as well as you know, Generation X and all that, and we need strong leadership to come out and just tell the truth.

01:02:13.000 You know what's happening.

01:02:14.000 We're like, this is Texas.

01:02:15.000 Are there any Christians in this house?

01:02:18.000 Thank you.

01:02:20.000 And we're for real about it and what's happening to our holy sites and what's happening to our brothers and sisters in Christ in the Middle East by a country that I'm sorry, I've never heard you come out and condemn the current leadership of that country. 0.57

01:02:35.000 I think it's sad.

01:02:36.000 I think you, as a leader, should come out and say something that we do not support that, that the current regime in Israel, we don't support what they're doing.

01:02:46.000 That's my thoughts.

01:02:47.000 I got you.

01:02:47.000 You know, I mean, I've spoken out against I first of all, very powerful argument at the beginning.

01:02:51.000 Uh gave me something to think about, so thank you for that.

01:02:54.000 But no, I mean, you're talking about Israel, obviously.

01:02:56.000 But yeah, Israel shouldn't have bombed the church, Israel shouldn't force the vaccine On their population. 0.90

01:03:01.000 Israel has abortion policies I don't like. 0.95

01:03:03.000 They have gay pride parades in Tel Aviv I don't like. 1.00

01:03:05.000 But also, I'm a Christian that has visited Israel.

01:03:07.000 My life was enriched by being able to see where Jesus walked on water, where he rose from the dead.

01:03:12.000 I do believe that God does not break his promises.

01:03:14.000 And if God does not break his promises, he promised the promised the land rights to the people of Israel.

01:03:19.000 And we're gonna have to we're we have to wrestle with that.

01:03:21.000 That by no means should we be naked apologists for the BB Netanyahu government or for the Likud Party or for the Israeli government. 0.99

01:03:28.000 However, we should never allow this crap of Jew rot, Jew hate, anti-Semitism, of this like brain rot that we allow in this country, right? 0.98

01:03:38.000 We and I'm not saying you are, sir, at all. 1.00

01:03:40.000 But we can't allow that to happen.

01:03:41.000 We should not put up with churches being bombed, and we should not be put up with holy sites being attacked.

01:03:45.000 Period.

01:03:46.000 End of story.

01:03:47.000 We serve America.

01:03:48.000 We're America's first.

01:03:49.000 Thank you very much.

01:03:50.000 Appreciate it.

01:03:50.000 Last question over here.

01:03:53.000 Uh hello, Mr. Kirk.

01:03:55.000 It's a pleasure to talk with you.

01:03:57.000 Uh bear with me for a moment.

01:03:59.000 I'm not a strong speaker.

01:04:01.000 Um I think on the I hate to bring it back to immigration, but I think on the immigration topic.

01:04:07.000 Okay.

01:04:10.000 I I for sure want a strong border that, you know, there are no illegal crossings, you know, we don't have illegal immigrants.

01:04:19.000 I really feel that for wage labor, for policing community, I get that.

01:04:24.000 But at the same time, as a Christian, I look in the eyes of some of these people that I grew up with, and my heart fills with compassion for people who come from a horrible place.

01:04:38.000 And I get that there are murderers that have come and cartel members, and I I hate that.

01:04:44.000 But at the end of the day, when I look at some of these amazing people, and I know that there's not a good system in place currently for them to come legally, whether it's cost, wait time, whatever, I feel like I can't turn them away, and it's my Christian duty to accept them.

01:05:01.000 Okay, so first of all, there's a lot there, and I don't have a lot of time to do it.

01:05:04.000 First of all, the Bible is very clear on immigration that you must assimilate when you come to the land of which you are in.

01:05:10.000 Number two, it does not mean you have to even have any immigrants whatsoever.

01:05:14.000 We kind of have a like a very false impression of this.

01:05:17.000 Um, for example, the entire book of Nehemiah, which is Donald Trump's favorite book of the Bible, it's all about building the wall.

01:05:22.000 And um, it's the idea of strong borders is a biblical concept in and of itself.

01:05:28.000 Look, I understand that you're filled with compassion with that, but honestly, my compassion is also for the American people that have not gotten a fair hearing in this nation the last 40 or 50 years.

01:05:37.000 And I again, this entire dialogue today has been very helpful to me, and you guys have been awesome.

01:05:42.000 But I have to say, you have proven a very um uh a depressing point that we are not a nation that wants to have immigration policy.

01:05:50.000 We just aren't.

01:05:52.000 We're not.

01:05:53.000 Like we we are not tough enough or strong enough to have mass deportations.

01:05:57.000 We're just not.

01:05:58.000 And I would I thought that we were, maybe, but uh uh uh maybe we could have a couple months of it.

01:06:04.000 And look, as far as the compassion thing, I look at it.

01:06:07.000 Why is it not compassion to send them back to their country of origin? 1.00

01:06:10.000 I don't why do they have a right to come to our nation? 1.00

01:06:13.000 A nation has a right to be able to invite, be able to reject people of their choosing. 0.99

01:06:18.000 And as far as the Christian standpoint of it, in Deuteronomy and Ezekiel, all throughout the scriptures, there's plenty of examples of repelling people from coming to your nation and prioritizing those in your homeland.

01:06:29.000 But you have a big heart, and I appreciate that.

01:06:31.000 My heart is also for the 74 million people that voted for a mandate this last November.

01:06:37.000 We obviously, I don't think, have the stomach to actually do that.

01:06:40.000 And the consequence, everybody, is we're just gonna have 50 million people in this country.

01:06:43.000 We don't know who they are, and they're just gonna end up being a shadow force because we're afraid of actually having our laws enforced.

01:06:49.000 But it's an important realization.

01:06:51.000 Uh we I think we are at a time.

01:06:52.000 Do you want to have a final thought on that?

01:06:54.000 I would just say that again, I fully support a strong border.

01:06:59.000 I feel like I would be much more inclined to support the actions behind it if we first built a really clean process for these wonderful people to come here.

01:07:10.000 And once that's in place, then I could I could support border enforcement.

01:07:15.000 Got it.

01:07:15.000 Okay, thank you very much.

01:07:16.000 I appreciate that.

01:07:17.000 My my perspective is just different.

01:07:20.000 And again, we have immigration law.

01:07:22.000 When you break the law, you should be adjudicated, and if not, you seek to be a nation.

01:07:26.000 Thank you.

01:07:26.000 All right, let me just say in closing, guys, that dialogue is what it's all about.

01:07:30.000 I don't know if we agreed we agreed on some, we disagreed on some, but most importantly, I want to end how I started, which is what you guys are doing is incredibly important.

01:07:37.000 I learned a lot by being here and thank you guys for respectfully listening and having this great conversation.

01:07:42.000 But we can all agree on this.

01:07:44.000 One nation under God, not one nation under government.

01:07:47.000 We want a strong America.

01:07:49.000 What you guys are doing is so critically important.

01:07:51.000 We need less kids going to college.

01:07:53.000 We need more kids that are going into the trades so that you do not have a labor shortage.

01:07:56.000 God bless you guys for the great work you're doing.

01:07:59.000 Thank you so much.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 19, 2025

We Need More Young People in the Trades — Charlie’s Last Message to the Working Class

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