The Charlie Kirk Show - 'We're Turning a Spiritual Corner in Our Country'—LIVE From 412 Murrieta Church with Pastor Tim Thompson

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00:01:33.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:35.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:37.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:41.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:44.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:45.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:46.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:48.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:54.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:02:03.000 That's why we are here.

00:02:06.000 I am very happy to have you out here.

00:02:08.000 Thank you.

00:02:09.000 It's great to be here.

00:02:10.000 Yeah, I met you several years ago at the Unite IE Conservative Conference.

00:02:17.000 It was out in Ontario, and it was me and Rob McCoy, who is your pastor, and Pastor Jack Hibbs.

00:02:24.000 And we were the three pastors they had speaking at this conservative conference.

00:02:28.000 And then there was you and Larry Elder.

00:02:29.000 And gosh, there were so many people speaking at that.

00:02:33.000 But it was just cool to get to meet you at that.

00:02:35.000 And so for me, to have you out tonight really is a pleasure and an honor.

00:02:40.000 And love what you do.

00:02:42.000 So thank you so much.

00:02:43.000 I'm just glad.

00:02:44.000 Thank you.

00:02:45.000 It's great to be here, everybody.

00:02:46.000 We're going to have some fun tonight.

00:02:48.000 And we're going to talk about what you can do, not just what's wrong, because it drives me nuts to go to an event and an event.

00:02:54.000 We're going to talk about what you can do to actually take back this country, which is what we need to talk about.

00:03:01.000 I love that.

00:03:02.000 I'm a person of action myself.

00:03:04.000 We can talk all day, but you got to actually put feet to your faith.

00:03:07.000 And I've heard a lot of pastors say that.

00:03:09.000 You got to put feet to your faith.

00:03:10.000 And then, like, I don't understand.

00:03:13.000 Why aren't we putting feet to our faith?

00:03:15.000 Let's do something.

00:03:16.000 And I want to ask you, because you are younger than me.

00:03:20.000 I actually have a grandkid on the way now.

00:03:22.000 I'm excited about that.

00:03:24.000 But you just got married in May.

00:03:25.000 Congratulations to you and your wife.

00:03:31.000 I know what motivates me, but I want to know what motivates you because this has gone on for quite some time in your life.

00:03:38.000 You've been engaged in this.

00:03:39.000 What keeps you motivated?

00:03:41.000 Yeah, I mean, the most important thing in my life is my relationship with Jesus Christ and my relationship with God, which we need to remind ourselves of that every single day and say it out loud and say it clearly because that's really what's going on here, isn't it?

00:03:54.000 It's a spiritual war.

00:03:55.000 All of this material side of it is just the manifestation of unclean spirits and pure spirits that are going at it.

00:04:03.000 And that's what the scriptures tell us.

00:04:05.000 But when it comes to what I care about in the political domain, I believe the scriptures tell us that we need to care about things that are beautiful and good and that are true.

00:04:16.000 This is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:04:20.000 And I am 27 years old, and I say that, I want you to think tonight as we go through this how much we've seen our country change just in the last nine months, and especially how much we've seen our country change in the last nine years or 10 years.

00:04:37.000 When I was in high school, 10 years ago, the things that we've now seen implemented would be completely unthinkable now that we just take as just kind of common sense, it's anything but common sense, but they say it's just kind of normal things, the new normal.

00:04:54.000 And I'm frustrated in a lot of different ways, and it compels me to action because I will not sit idly by while this gift that we have been given, the greatest country ever to exist,

00:05:06.000 a constitutional republic of and by and for the people that so many people have sacrificed for, that I just have to sit idly by while a very sinister and malevolent and clever and crafty minority takes over this country while they do not control a majority of the people.

00:05:28.000 And by every single measure, they are only doing it because we've allowed them to do it.

00:05:35.000 And now maybe not you, but that we have allowed them to get way too far as far as cultural control, way too far for way too long.

00:05:44.000 And they've also been willing, which is a word I want to talk about tonight, to get into the institutions to push against conservatives and Christians.

00:05:54.000 And look, as a 27-year-old, I know this, and this is hard for some people to hear.

00:05:59.000 And I'm going to be very honest with you because I don't do hopium.

00:06:03.000 I don't tell you hope, opium, put together things that sound good. 0.96

00:06:06.000 Like, this is not going to get fixed for probably another 20 years.

00:06:11.000 Just so you guys know, this is a 20 or 30 year project.

00:06:13.000 Now, things can get better.

00:06:15.000 We can hopefully get Fauci to go to prison and like all these things that can happen, right?

00:06:21.000 But if you really think we're going to reform the FBI, the CIA, Congress, which is a waste of rations, Sacramento, which makes Congress look like, you know, a darling child of American government, we have to think how the left thought in the 1960s, which is an intergenerational project of 27-year-olds that are going to say, you know what?

00:06:45.000 This is now my life task.

00:06:47.000 By the time I'm 50, I want to be able to look at a 27-year-old and say, you know what, I actually gave you something better.

00:06:53.000 And I'm not saying this is a shame.

00:06:56.000 I'm going to say something.

00:06:57.000 I'm not trying to make you feel bad.

00:06:58.000 But if you're 50 plus, you're not handing a better country to your kids. 0.99

00:07:01.000 It's not necessarily your fault, but it's just true.

00:07:04.000 And I know for me, my life's mission is to hand something better to the 27-year-old that's going to be sitting in this chair in 25 years from now.

00:07:12.000 Right.

00:07:12.000 Yeah.

00:07:15.000 A friend of mine, former California State Senator Mike Morrell, just a good, godly man, very few of them on the California State Senate.

00:07:24.000 But Senator Morell, he had said, you know, Tim, you know, the Bible does say that we leave an inheritance to our children's children.

00:07:32.000 And he said, it's far more than money.

00:07:33.000 We need to leave an America to our children's children, the America that we got to grow up in. 0.98

00:07:38.000 And I heard you speak to the kids next door, and I'd love you to just tell the parents here, because I want you to tell the parents what you told their kids, because they need to hear it too.

00:07:50.000 And I think, and this is serious, like if you were a parent and your kids were over there, I think Charlie gave them some of the best advice they could have gotten this year, hands down.

00:07:59.000 So if you would, just.

00:08:00.000 Yeah, I mean, I was a little disappointed, to be honest.

00:08:03.000 I asked a lot of the kids that were like 12 and 13, I said, how many of you have phones?

00:08:08.000 And every hand went up.

00:08:10.000 And that's really bad.

00:08:11.000 I'll be honest with you guys.

00:08:12.000 No person should have a phone until they're 18, if at that.

00:08:16.000 And I'm not trying to make you feel bad, but I grew up without one.

00:08:20.000 And it was one of the greatest gifts from God that I grew up without a smartphone, like this weird, creepy window into TikTok controlling your children.

00:08:29.000 It's easy to give your child a phone because it keeps them entertained and you don't actually have to worry about what they're doing half the time.

00:08:37.000 I asked them, I said, how long do you guys spend on your phones?

00:08:39.000 They're like, oh, six hours, seven hours.

00:08:41.000 I said, you guys should smash your phones.

00:08:43.000 I'm not kidding.

00:08:44.000 And I'm happy to get into this on how I think technology has really played a role.

00:08:49.000 I had a reporter once, they say, you're anti-technology.

00:08:51.000 I was like, yeah, okay, sure.

00:08:54.000 Yeah.

00:08:55.000 I mean, am I anti-smartphone?

00:08:57.000 I mean, I'm anti-what it's made us become, of course.

00:09:00.000 And we know so little about the neuroscience of what this does to our interpersonal relationships, to spiritual development, to mental health.

00:09:09.000 And so I challenge them provocatively because it gets young people's attention because we're competing for attention with students, right?

00:09:16.000 Because they're on TikTok all the time, which is a disastrous Chinese spy operation that has mined, it's true, that has mined all your children's data. 0.95

00:09:25.000 And they all have it, right?

00:09:26.000 I asked them, and they were like, oh, yeah, we use it.

00:09:28.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:09:30.000 And yeah, I just told them, I said, get off the phone and start living in the real world.

00:09:33.000 I mean, I lived in America 10 years ago where my parents were like, okay, be home by dark.

00:09:40.000 And they looked at me as if I had, like I was a relic from the Inquisition or something.

00:09:47.000 They're like, you fought in the Crusades?

00:09:50.000 Like, what was Jesus like?

00:09:54.000 I mean, I said 10 years ago.

00:09:56.000 And again, I'm not trying to make people feel bad.

00:09:58.000 That's not why I'm here, okay?

00:09:59.000 But I love you guys too much to lie to you, okay?

00:10:02.000 If you're a parent and you have a 15 or 16 with a phone, take the phone away, seriously.

00:10:05.000 Your kids will hate you short term.

00:10:06.000 They'll thank you long term.

00:10:08.000 They should not have a phone.

00:10:09.000 And you're like, well, you have to stay in contact with my kid, which again is this new weird, like, helicopter parenting thing.

00:10:13.000 You don't.

00:10:14.000 But if you have to, go buy him a jitterbug, okay?

00:10:16.000 Which is like that big phone where they have like three buttons and like it's not, it's like 911, the hospital, and your grandparents and your parents.

00:10:23.000 And like, that's it, right?

00:10:25.000 You guys ever see those commercials?

00:10:26.000 Or like get them a life alert, okay?

00:10:27.000 Or something like that, right?

00:10:29.000 I mean, seriously, they don't need the phone.

00:10:31.000 And I say this as somebody who has kind of built our following on social media. 0.99

00:10:37.000 It's all a pile of garbage. 0.98

00:10:40.000 And it's creating a generation that doesn't know how to lead, that doesn't know how to communicate, that is more likely to be socially controlled. 0.99

00:10:47.000 And so I know for my wife and I, one of the things I think we as Christians need to do a better job of is honoring the Sabbath.

00:10:55.000 And so for one day a week, we just turn off our phone completely, put it away.

00:11:00.000 And I try to only use my phone for, I got rid of all my social media apps, my Instagram, my Twitter, my Facebook, YouTube, everything.

00:11:07.000 I just have text message and email, and I try to limit my screen time to an hour and a half or less.

00:11:12.000 And I fail a lot.

00:11:13.000 And it could be good if you're reading the Bible app, which, by the way, I can't stand, you know, when people say take out your Bibles and I speak at churches.

00:11:20.000 I'm a big physical Bible believer.

00:11:22.000 That's a different speech for a different time.

00:11:23.000 But I will say, though, that I'm happy to go into what else I told the kids, but I also told them that it's very tempting.

00:11:32.000 It's a temptation I have to reject.

00:11:35.000 I'm going to be honest with you, to blame my parents' generation for this.

00:11:39.000 It's tempting for me to want to go on an anti-boomer crusade, right? 0.98

00:11:43.000 Which is the most selfish generation in American history.

00:11:45.000 It just is.

00:11:47.000 But, and everything shows it.

00:11:49.000 Boomers are willing to lock down schools because they don't want to get sick with their kids, willing to mask kids and vaccinate kids. 1.00

00:11:54.000 Not you, of course, but you know, that's 70% of boomers support this stuff, right?

00:12:00.000 I told them, don't fall into that temptation that I want to get into.

00:12:04.000 Lead your parents.

00:12:06.000 Lead adults to go forth in the country you want to live in. 0.73

00:12:12.000 Do not be the victim generation.

00:12:14.000 And by the way, I wrestle with this, right?

00:12:16.000 And I'm sure some of you do too, right?

00:12:18.000 Some of you are like, why is it that this country was not what it once was?

00:12:22.000 Well, that's where God put you.

00:12:23.000 Guess what?

00:12:24.000 The country I grew up in, where we used to judge people based on character, it's over.

00:12:28.000 We're now judging people on skin color.

00:12:30.000 And it's not going to go back in any major institution anytime.

00:12:34.000 The country that I grew up in, where all of a sudden we valued hard work and American history, it's dead.

00:12:40.000 We got to bring it back.

00:12:41.000 It's going to take work.

00:12:42.000 We can complain about it.

00:12:44.000 We can blame people for it.

00:12:45.000 I got a long list, by the way.

00:12:47.000 Not helpful.

00:12:48.000 Instead, I told every student there, I said, you now have to ask yourself, what kind of country do you want to live in?

00:12:53.000 Do you want to live in a country where it's easier to have a large family and church attendance is going up and there's a spiritual revival and our constitutional rights are protected?

00:13:00.000 Or a country where you are micromanaged by some sort of weird five-foot-eight tech billionaire that controls TikTok in Silicon Valley and that you're a slave to the mask tyrants and the vaccine pharmaceutical companies.

00:13:13.000 They didn't want any of that.

00:13:14.000 I said, think freely, be courageous, and together, our generation can build a better country.

00:13:19.000 Amen.

00:13:24.000 You know, I obviously grew up where we were all outside as well.

00:13:28.000 I always tell people we drank out of the hose, and I wondered, my brother.

00:13:31.000 So did I, it was great.

00:13:33.000 I always wondered.

00:13:34.000 They're like, you're going to get cancer.

00:13:35.000 Why did I drink out of the hose?

00:13:36.000 You know why we drink out of the hose?

00:13:37.000 Because if we went inside to get a drink, our mom made us stay in.

00:13:40.000 So we just stayed outside so she couldn't find us.

00:13:42.000 But I grew up in this time, you know, Southern California was like this area, especially Orange County where I grew up, was a big punk rock area.

00:13:51.000 And we always see, I was never a punk rocker, but I always watched the punk rockers at school.

00:13:56.000 And I always thought, man, there's something so cool about these guys.

00:13:59.000 Like, they do not do what the culture tells them to do.

00:14:02.000 And I thought, that's kind of awesome that they're that way.

00:14:05.000 And the way I look at it now is today, to be a conservative, to be a Christian, to go counter culture, you are punk rock.

00:14:14.000 You're punk rock if you do that.

00:14:16.000 We've got Victoria sitting right over there. 1.00

00:14:18.000 Victoria, you are punk rock. 0.96

00:14:20.000 If you guys don't stand up real quick, Victoria, stand up real quick.

00:14:23.000 Victoria, okay, so Victoria went to school.

00:14:26.000 Shame on you.

00:14:27.000 She went to school without a mask.

00:14:30.000 So her school went on lockdown.

00:14:34.000 Lockdown.

00:14:35.000 Like there's a man with a gun on campus who went on lockdown, and then she ends up on Tucker Carlson.

00:14:41.000 Good job.

00:14:42.000 Good job.

00:14:46.000 I do.

00:14:46.000 That's great.

00:14:47.000 No, and I mean, you're right.

00:14:49.000 It's kind of like the new rebel is to be a Christian conservative.

00:14:52.000 But that whole kind of punk rock thing was always somewhat a lie because deep down, it was all kind of a character trope that was being played by Hollywood, as it was like the fake rebel.

00:15:03.000 Like, yeah, like, oh, yeah, I reject the society, even though every song that I like agrees with me.

00:15:08.000 And, you know, every movie, because I mean, you kind of strike me as someone who, you know, grew up in the late 80s and 90s and early 2000s, kind of that era.

00:15:16.000 A lot of those movies were kind of all about kind of the punk rock thing.

00:15:21.000 None of our movies today are about Christians conservatives.

00:15:24.000 I can tell you that, right?

00:15:25.000 I mean, this is what I always laugh about, like the hippies always being called like the rebels.

00:15:30.000 It's like, yeah, I guess they were rebels, but they controlled every major cultural institution, right?

00:15:35.000 It's like that hippies were glorified in every song and every movie as being like the cool people.

00:15:43.000 And so I'll tell you, a legit rebel is someone who like gets fired from your job and gets called a racist and a bigot because you believe Jesus Christ is the king of the world.

00:15:52.000 So it's like, you know what I mean?

00:15:54.000 It's like an even bigger level.

00:15:55.000 And so I mean, I agree.

00:15:58.000 People say conservatives are the new punk rock and you articulated it really well.

00:16:01.000 But it's a whole new level because the price of speaking truth in America today has never come at a higher cost.

00:16:10.000 And it's never come at a higher cost to just say things that are objectively true.

00:16:16.000 And the Bible tells us that these times are coming.

00:16:19.000 The Bible tells us that this sort of persecution is guaranteed for us.

00:16:23.000 And we need to embrace it.

00:16:25.000 And that we shouldn't stay away from it.

00:16:27.000 And we shouldn't act as if the moment that we are in is something that we need to complain about.

00:16:35.000 With that being said, we should not tolerate injustice.

00:16:38.000 We should not tolerate evil where it rears its head.

00:16:41.000 And that is what we as Christians and conservatives are called to do.

00:16:44.000 Right.

00:16:44.000 Yeah, amen.

00:16:45.000 So you have a heart to reach out to the younger generation.

00:16:50.000 And I love that about what you do.

00:16:51.000 And you did encourage, like you always do, you encouraged our kids next door to not go to college, most of them.

00:16:59.000 And I think that's awesome.

00:17:03.000 I'll let you explain why just briefly, because there might be some parents that just freaking know it.

00:17:09.000 No, it's, I mean, there's some things, I mean, I'm not running for political office.

00:17:12.000 I do a talk show for three hours a day, two podcasts a day.

00:17:16.000 I just don't care if people don't agree with me.

00:17:18.000 It's kind of fun.

00:17:19.000 It's really liberating.

00:17:20.000 You guys should try it sometimes.

00:17:21.000 It's really great.

00:17:22.000 It's like, yeah, whatever.

00:17:23.000 Someone heckled me.

00:17:24.000 They're like, how dare you?

00:17:25.000 I'm like, really?

00:17:26.000 All the things I say, like, you know, the things I say about Islamic fundamentalism and like immigration and abortion, the thing that gets audiences so fired up is when I tell them that their kids shouldn't go to college. 0.96

00:17:36.000 It's like the Greta Thunberg.

00:17:37.000 Like, how dare you?

00:17:38.000 Like, great.

00:17:40.000 Like, yeah, now I've really, now I really know what your religion is.

00:17:43.000 Your religion is social currency.

00:17:46.000 And your religion is driving around with the Stanford mom bumper sticker on your Lexus on the way to SoulCycle, being like, yeah, my kid is like, my kid's such a good person.

00:17:54.000 You see how good of a parent I am?

00:17:56.000 My kid goes to Stanford.

00:17:58.000 Yeah, look how good of a person I am.

00:17:59.000 Yeah, okay, great.

00:18:01.000 Okay, I mean, no offense.

00:18:02.000 If you think college is great, terrific.

00:18:03.000 I'll persuade you otherwise in two minutes or less.

00:18:06.000 So, which is like, look, we have way too many kids going to college.

00:18:09.000 Way too many kids going to college.

00:18:11.000 41% of kids that go to college don't graduate.

00:18:14.000 41%.

00:18:15.000 If I told you that if we all go to McDonald's after this and 41% of you are going to get food poisoning, that's going to dramatically alter your life and you're going to leave with $30,000 in debt, you'd be like, man, that restaurant sounds horrible.

00:18:27.000 Yet we keep on sending our kids to those colleges.

00:18:30.000 Why do we have a generation of kids that hate the country, don't know the Lord, and don't know their own identity?

00:18:35.000 We send them to factories where they masterclass that.

00:18:38.000 And then we're like, you know what's a good idea?

00:18:40.000 It's so expensive.

00:18:41.000 Let's have you borrow money you don't have to study things that don't matter to go find jobs that don't exist where 90% of the college graduates end up finding jobs if they find a job at all in something that has no relevance to their degree or major at all whatsoever.

00:18:53.000 And they're like, you know what's even a better idea?

00:18:55.000 Let's go surround them with college professors who hate themselves and hate America and have super like long words to try to overly complicate things.

00:19:04.000 Like, oh yeah, I believe in like international nihilism or I'm going to tell you why America is colonialistic, heteronormatively oppressive.

00:19:13.000 And it's like, wow.

00:19:15.000 And then we just, then we decided, you know what, even more?

00:19:18.000 We have 22 million kids in college right now.

00:19:20.000 Way too many kids, right?

00:19:22.000 And they say, you know what, we're going to go create majors.

00:19:24.000 You know, it's really fun.

00:19:25.000 You guys should try this.

00:19:26.000 And if you work at Starbucks, God bless you.

00:19:27.000 You might not be one of these people, but most of them are.

00:19:29.000 It's like, oh, yeah.

00:19:30.000 So you're like, thank you so much for my iced coffee.

00:19:33.000 What did you study, right?

00:19:35.000 And I got all sorts of different answers.

00:19:36.000 Like, yeah, you know, I studied North African lesbian poetry.

00:19:40.000 I'm like, really?

00:19:41.000 That's, you know, who's your favorite North African lesbian poet? 1.00

00:19:46.000 I didn't realize that was such a, you know, diverse field of study.

00:19:51.000 Or like, yeah, I studied like 13th century Peruvian duck hunting.

00:19:57.000 I'm like, yeah, it's really something.

00:19:58.000 So, but has it made America a better place?

00:20:02.000 Of course not.

00:20:03.000 You have a generation that has, on average, $35,000 in student loan debt.

00:20:08.000 They're living in urban cities where they're renting, not owning.

00:20:10.000 The amount of children we're having is declining.

00:20:13.000 We have more singled people than married people. 0.69

00:20:15.000 They're less likely to go to church.

00:20:17.000 They've declared war on their parents' values.

00:20:19.000 And why?

00:20:21.000 College.

00:20:21.000 That's why.

00:20:22.000 And why do we keep sending our kids to college?

00:20:24.000 Number one, false promise.

00:20:25.000 They don't need to go to college to get a job.

00:20:27.000 It's a lie.

00:20:28.000 It is a total lie. 0.95

00:20:29.000 They need to get to college to go work for some soulless company that's going to suck their life away.

00:20:32.000 Like, oh yeah, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Facebook, Google, IBM.

00:20:36.000 Yeah, fine.

00:20:37.000 But do you know where the job openings are right now?

00:20:39.000 You know the people who are killing it?

00:20:41.000 The people that are laughing?

00:20:42.000 I had a plumber come to my house the other day.

00:20:46.000 They need to be investigated for price gouging, okay?

00:20:49.000 No, serious.

00:20:50.000 By the way, if you're a plumber, I hope you're charging these people that money.

00:20:53.000 Any plumbers here?

00:20:54.000 God bless you.

00:20:56.000 You guys are heroes because they get to go to the ruling class homes of all the people that have like the Stanford mom bumper stickers.

00:21:02.000 And they have like the 27-year-old sleeping until 3 o'clock in the afternoon on the couch as the plumber comes in, right?

00:21:08.000 And the plumber goes into the basement, fix the problem.

00:21:10.000 And then they're the one that has to overhear the conversations, the mom being like, what are you doing with your life and all that?

00:21:16.000 Meanwhile, the plumber's like, hop, should have been a plumber.

00:21:18.000 And he can't go hire enough people to go help them because no one wants their kids to go work construction.

00:21:25.000 Because deep down, you would rather tell your friends at SoulCycle or the country club or whatever.

00:21:34.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:21:35.000 Little Johnny's at UC Berkeley.

00:21:38.000 He's at Arizona State.

00:21:40.000 Deep down, you don't want to tell your friends, oh yeah, my kids work in construction.

00:21:46.000 That's considered a failure.

00:21:48.000 That's considered like you didn't do your job.

00:21:50.000 You would rather send your kid to a soulless and godless institution where they don't know the Lord and they come back, you know, for Thanksgiving, like, hey, honey, how was your first semester?

00:22:01.000 I don't believe this is Indigenous People's Day, not Thanksgiving, okay?

00:22:05.000 I am non-binary and I totally reject the heteronormative type.

00:22:10.000 You know what?

00:22:11.000 I reject all of this.

00:22:13.000 And 90% tax is free.

00:22:14.000 You're like, what just happened?

00:22:15.000 Am I paying for this?

00:22:16.000 Yes, you are.

00:22:17.000 And so it is one of the greatest scams ever pulled on the American people and no one wants to talk about it.

00:22:26.000 And I found this really interesting.

00:22:27.000 One of the reasons people don't want to talk about it is they've either gone through the system and they have some sort of like weird guilt about it.

00:22:33.000 I'm free.

00:22:34.000 I never went to college.

00:22:35.000 It was a great blessing for me.

00:22:36.000 I was going to go to West Point, didn't get in.

00:22:38.000 I didn't want to borrow the money.

00:22:39.000 My parents played along with the whole thing.

00:22:39.000 It was great.

00:22:41.000 God bless them for that because where I came from, like the drug addicts were treated way better than the kids that didn't go to college, right?

00:22:48.000 You guys all know those types of neighborhoods, right?

00:22:50.000 Where it's like, okay, you could be the total social isolate, but if you don't go to college, you get to talk from the elders in the community, right?

00:22:57.000 Are you okay?

00:22:59.000 You do know the mistake you're making, right?

00:23:01.000 You must go to college to succeed.

00:23:03.000 You need to go to college.

00:23:04.000 You know, being kind of the higher level of my class and, you know, being involved in sports and Eagle Scout, like not going to college was considered to be an act of like unheard of rebellion.

00:23:13.000 And so, yeah, look, we're going to save the country if we can reduce college enrollment by half.

00:23:18.000 These are broken institutions that rip you off if you're paying tuition, that scam your kids, that scam the taxpayers where these professors are making out like wild bandits and they create voters like AOC.

00:23:30.000 Time to stop sending your kids to college and to say, okay, if they want to go to college, they can become a dentist.

00:23:38.000 Specialized skills are one thing, okay?

00:23:40.000 But guess what?

00:23:42.000 Most kids don't go to college for that.

00:23:43.000 Most 70% of kids go to college to go study communications or psychology.

00:23:47.000 And I say this as we run a college organization with many of our turning point kids here tonight, and they will tell you that, like, look, most of the classes that they're forced to take, they don't want to take.

00:23:58.000 They don't have any relevancy to their degree or major.

00:24:00.000 So, like, okay, we're going to go make you take all this kind of social justice core so we can indoctrinate you and go get you further into debt, which makes you more reliable voters, by the way.

00:24:11.000 The higher your debt level, the more likely you are to go vote for the person that might alleviate that debt burden, right?

00:24:17.000 If you're free and you don't have any debt, then you're not going to be a Democrat voter, obviously, right?

00:24:21.000 So, you go send people into the system where they're filled with these ideas and they're shackled with this financial burden.

00:24:27.000 And so, yeah, just think for yourself.

00:24:29.000 Ask high school kids, hey, what do you want to do with your life?

00:24:34.000 Not where do you want to go to college.

00:24:36.000 What kind of person do you want to be?

00:24:38.000 Let's develop people of character, right?

00:24:40.000 Let's talk about a properly souled individual that knows the meaning of courage and justice and love and mercy and contemplation and friendship and assembly.

00:24:50.000 Not someone who can recite to you how racist and misogynistic and colonialistic America is.

00:24:56.000 So, reject the system.

00:24:57.000 Think freely.

00:24:58.000 And your kids, I'm telling you, they'll be so blessed if you start to think like this and a pressure will be lifted off your house.

00:25:04.000 And maybe it is the right choice for you.

00:25:05.000 But I'm telling you, many people are stuck in that matrix and that simulation.

00:25:08.000 It doesn't end up making good decisions.

00:25:10.000 Right.

00:25:10.000 There are some that are in there that are awesome.

00:25:10.000 Right?

00:25:13.000 Like you just said, you got a Turning Point group here tonight.

00:25:18.000 I want to show a quick video.

00:25:19.000 Kiara Mapp, she goes to church at 412 Church in Marietta.

00:25:24.000 She's a fourth-year political science major at San Diego State University, where she is the president of the Turning Point USA chapter there.

00:25:31.000 Also, the Students for Life.

00:25:32.000 And she went before the city council meeting here in Temecula, just one city south of us.

00:25:41.000 And I just want to show you a quick clip, and then I want to talk about this for a minute.

00:25:46.000 So much that we can do, but I will leave you with a quote from Frederick Douglass.

00:25:50.000 Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an unorganized conspiracy to oppress, rob, and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.

00:26:02.000 Please stop telling underrepresented groups that they are victims and let us all be victors.

00:26:06.000 Thank you.

00:26:07.000 Thank you.

00:26:18.000 Go ahead.

00:26:19.000 No, I'm going to post that on our social media, so make sure I get a clip of that.

00:26:23.000 No, I just love kind of how the white liberals are perplexed.

00:26:26.000 Like, oh, really?

00:26:27.000 Yeah.

00:26:29.000 Well, it's funny because it was, we were there that, in fact, that meeting, I was there until 3.30 in the morning.

00:26:29.000 Yeah.

00:26:37.000 That's how long the city council meeting went.

00:26:39.000 It has to do with the Ready Commission that Temecula put into place.

00:26:42.000 And, you know, the Ready Commission stands for race, equity.

00:26:48.000 I was going to say equality, but it's not equality.

00:26:49.000 It's equity.

00:26:50.000 Race, equity, diversity, and inclusion.

00:26:53.000 And here's the city council going, it has nothing to do with race.

00:26:58.000 I don't know why you keep saying that.

00:26:59.000 Like, okay, ready, the first letter is race.

00:27:04.000 But no, this has nothing to do.

00:27:06.000 Then they start talking critical race theory, and we keep bringing this up.

00:27:09.000 They go, well, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:27:11.000 This has nothing to do with critical race theory.

00:27:13.000 And it's like, you don't know what critical race theory is.

00:27:16.000 And then along comes Kiara Mapp.

00:27:18.000 She gets up there and she just schools them.

00:27:22.000 And it was just, it was awesome.

00:27:24.000 It was one of those times where you just can't help but like have tears of joy coming down your face, especially like as a pastor.

00:27:29.000 I'm like, I know her.

00:27:31.000 I know her.

00:27:32.000 She's awesome. 0.83

00:27:34.000 So it was so cool.

00:27:35.000 And what I want to do is I want to find out how do we replicate that?

00:27:39.000 What do we do to engage more people in getting up?

00:27:42.000 Because there are a lot of brilliant minds that need to be heard in this time. 0.97

00:27:47.000 And the way the left is working is though they think we're dumb. 0.98

00:27:53.000 And that's how they act. 1.00

00:27:54.000 They act like we're dumb. 1.00

00:27:55.000 And then Kiara Mac gets up there and shows them, look, you guys are the ones that are fools. 0.99

00:28:00.000 Yeah, I mean, first of all, proud to say you're a president of a chapter, Turning Point USA. 0.96

00:28:06.000 So that's why we do what we do, everybody.

00:28:08.000 And so very proud of that, seriously.

00:28:13.000 And that touches me.

00:28:14.000 That's why we started Turning Point, to try to rise up new leaders to try to stand up against what we've been seeing in our country.

00:28:21.000 I'm happy to talk about kind of the missing, there's two missing ingredients right now.

00:28:26.000 And I'm happy to say that it used to be we had many missing ingredients.

00:28:30.000 So when I first started Turning Point, we wouldn't have filled this room up if we said we were going to talk about what we're talking about tonight.

00:28:39.000 Because there was not awareness and there really was not agreement amongst conservatives and Christians at how bad things were.

00:28:49.000 And I'm talking about in 2012, 2013.

00:28:52.000 You guys understand what we used to talk about at gatherings like this, right?

00:28:56.000 We used to talk about like economic policy.

00:28:58.000 Remember those gatherings?

00:28:59.000 Like, oh yeah, we need to go lower taxes for the biggest companies because that's really going to get America back to where we need it to go, right?

00:29:06.000 And look, I'm a free market guy, but it's definitely not the most important thing on the list right now.

00:29:11.000 I mean, free markets are a means to an end so human beings can flourish.

00:29:16.000 And if you do not have a decent or civil society, let alone a political project that's working with fair and free elections, what are we even talking about here, right?

00:29:24.000 I mean, and so, but now we do have that awareness and that agreement.

00:29:29.000 So now there's two things we're missing.

00:29:32.000 And I think we're changing.

00:29:33.000 And again, I don't mean this as an insult.

00:29:35.000 Please just accept this as a general kind of thing.

00:29:39.000 We need more courage and we need the willingness, right?

00:29:44.000 And so courage is a very interesting thing.

00:29:47.000 George S. Patton, who's one of my favorite all-time people, who was probably murdered by our own government, but that's a different question for a different time.

00:29:55.000 It's true.

00:29:56.000 And so, so probably, but you guys can look into the stats of it.

00:30:00.000 It's well documented.

00:30:01.000 He said that moral courage is the most necessary yet absent characteristic in men.

00:30:08.000 Aristotle, who is the man, said that courage is the ultimate virtue because without it, there are no other virtues.

00:30:16.000 That's exactly right.

00:30:16.000 And you think about that.

00:30:18.000 That if you don't have courage, then how can you have honesty?

00:30:20.000 How can you have justice?

00:30:22.000 How can you have friendship and contemplation?

00:30:24.000 And courage is the virtue that allows the entire society to operate.

00:30:29.000 That was courage to go speak at that school board meeting.

00:30:32.000 But then it also took willingness, which is what you just talked about, Pastor, which is staying there till 3.30 in the morning.

00:30:38.000 That's not fun, right?

00:30:39.000 Oh, no.

00:30:40.000 That's going to ruin your next day.

00:30:42.000 They've been staying at meetings to 3.30 in the morning since the 1960s.

00:30:48.000 You see, when they devised their takeover and their plot to take down America in the 1960s, they said, you know what?

00:30:55.000 We're willing to get arrested.

00:30:57.000 We're willing to protest.

00:30:59.000 We are willing to create a secularized religion.

00:31:02.000 We're willing to stay at these meetings till 3.30 because when you're conserving something, you don't operate with the same sense of urgency if you don't think it's immediately under threat.

00:31:15.000 But if you're trying to revolutionize something, you will continue to work at it.

00:31:20.000 Like, look at the people with the gate with the whole homosexual marriage thing. 1.00

00:31:23.000 They didn't stop.

00:31:24.000 I mean, I'm thinking of writing an article about it because I lived through the whole homosexual marriage thing. 1.00

00:31:30.000 And it was so amazing to see how America was so in agreement that a marriage was one man, one woman, like 60 to 70 percent at every poll.

00:31:40.000 And in like 10 years or less, the courts, culture, and public opinion also changed.

00:31:48.000 In like 10 years, and it shows that sometimes social change does not happen in a linear fashion.

00:31:56.000 So, for example, you could be working super hard on getting homosexual marriage passed from 1980 to 2005 and move the dial like half of a percent every year. 0.77

00:32:06.000 But maybe once 2006 hits, for whatever reason, it goes by 10% every single year, right?

00:32:13.000 And so, we're at a moment right now where things can change very quickly, right?

00:32:18.000 People are seeing the injustice and they're seeing the immorality of what the current regime is doing.

00:32:24.000 And so, yeah, then it comes down to the willingness.

00:32:27.000 And here's something that you don't want to hear, but you need to hear, right?

00:32:31.000 Which is that all of you are going to have to sacrifice something to get your country back.

00:32:36.000 And a lot of you already are.

00:32:38.000 You're going to sacrifice friends, business contracts, contacts, you know, neighborly relationships, all of it.

00:32:46.000 And it is worth it.

00:32:47.000 Trust me, it is worth it.

00:32:48.000 But I'm not going to do what some other speakers do, which is lie to you, which is this.

00:32:53.000 Just go vote for this person.

00:32:55.000 We got to take back the house.

00:32:57.000 And then just go buy a pillow and everything's going to be better, right?

00:33:03.000 And like, promo code Kirk, by the way, at mypillow.com, okay?

00:33:08.000 Mypillow.com, promo code Kirk.

00:33:10.000 Okay, great guy, Mike Lindell.

00:33:11.000 Love him.

00:33:12.000 That's not going to save the Republic.

00:33:13.000 I mean, the point is that we now have to all of a sudden embody a posture that we don't like.

00:33:21.000 You know what that is?

00:33:22.000 It's what we do at Turning Point.

00:33:24.000 I travel 340 days a year.

00:33:27.000 We do two podcasts a day.

00:33:29.000 We sleep very little.

00:33:30.000 We have every major newspaper trying to attack us and destroy us.

00:33:33.000 Every social media company that tries to come after us, right?

00:33:36.000 Every friend I grew up with will not talk to me except two.

00:33:39.000 My family has been divided outside of my nuclear family, praise God. 1.00

00:33:43.000 My wife and I have, you know, my wife and I have a very close social circle.

00:33:47.000 And you know what?

00:33:48.000 We're the luckiest, most blessed people in the world.

00:33:50.000 I wouldn't trade this for the world.

00:33:51.000 You know why?

00:33:52.000 I said what I said earlier.

00:33:53.000 I mean it.

00:33:53.000 I'm the same person in public that I am in private.

00:33:56.000 I don't have to pretend I'm somebody different.

00:33:58.000 I'm free.

00:33:59.000 Are you?

00:34:00.000 That's the most important question to ask.

00:34:02.000 Yeah.

00:34:04.000 Yeah, you know, along those lines, I've been talking about this quite a bit lately.

00:34:08.000 I've been letting people know you have to be willing to not be liked.

00:34:12.000 And if you're a Christian, you have to embrace it.

00:34:14.000 And that's, I love that.

00:34:16.000 You can embrace the fact Jesus said they hated him, so they're going to hate you.

00:34:21.000 And if people love you, then you're doing something wrong.

00:34:24.000 That's true.

00:34:25.000 It's that simple.

00:34:27.000 If you, as a Christian, find that most of the people in society just love you, then you are not being the Christian Christ has called you to be.

00:34:35.000 And that's okay if you don't want to be a real Christian. 0.93

00:34:40.000 But the second you say, you know what, I really want to embrace my Christianity.

00:34:43.000 I really want to be what God has called me to be.

00:34:45.000 I don't want to be one of those couch potatoes.

00:34:48.000 I want to actually get up and do something.

00:34:50.000 Just be prepared for it and embrace it.

00:34:53.000 People are going to talk bad about you. 1.00

00:34:54.000 You're going to be a misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, bigoted racist. 1.00

00:35:00.000 You know how I know? 1.00

00:35:01.000 Because I'm all those things.

00:35:03.000 I mean, if you go look on social media, that's me.

00:35:05.000 I'm the maniac pastor here in our valley. 0.67

00:35:07.000 They can't stand me. 0.95

00:35:08.000 But you know what?

00:35:09.000 The Bible says, Blessed are you when people revile you and persecute you and say all manner of wickedness against you falsely for his name's sake.

00:35:15.000 And that's what will happen.

00:35:16.000 You'll be blessed.

00:35:18.000 Well, and also, I mean, that's totally true.

00:35:22.000 And it's not that you get no friends.

00:35:26.000 So, Aristotle taught that there are three types of friendship, and we don't teach young people this at all.

00:35:30.000 The first type of friendship is like commercial friendship.

00:35:33.000 These are friends you might have at work, right?

00:35:37.000 You're trying to accomplish some sort of aim or some sort of goal, and it's very transactional, right?

00:35:43.000 The second type of friendship is a friendship where you might share some sort of a purpose.

00:35:49.000 The best example that we have are sports teams, right?

00:35:52.000 And those friendships can last.

00:35:55.000 But the third type of friendship, Aristotle said, which is the highest form that a human being can exist, and the Bible tells us this as well, is when the two friends are not looking at each other very much because they're looking at the same ultimate purpose.

00:36:10.000 And that's what all of you in this room have in common.

00:36:12.000 You're all experiencing the highest level of friendship right now because all of you are looking at, man, how do I save this country?

00:36:18.000 You're not worried about what people are wearing here tonight.

00:36:20.000 You're not worried about social currency.

00:36:23.000 That's what we need to embrace.

00:36:25.000 Not the sort of, you know, oh, yeah, are my friends with this person or that person?

00:36:28.000 No, what are you looking at?

00:36:29.000 What's your ultimate purpose?

00:36:31.000 And that Greek, that comes from a Greek word telos, where we get the word telescope from, which means far out in the distance.

00:36:36.000 That's where we get the word teleology from as well when we talk in biblical terms.

00:36:40.000 And that's where you need to really chart your course.

00:36:42.000 What are we trying to do here?

00:36:44.000 Are we just trying to get social media likes and trying to get people to momentarily like us?

00:36:50.000 I mean, that's a shallow life.

00:36:51.000 We all know that.

00:36:52.000 No, it's also you shouldn't strive to try to create discord.

00:36:56.000 The Bible tells us that as well.

00:36:58.000 But you should speak truth at every chance you possibly can.

00:37:03.000 And you know it's going to come with a cost, obviously.

00:37:05.000 You know that people are going to call you those names.

00:37:08.000 And, you know, I hope that what we do at Turning Point, what we're doing on our kind of, you know, our kind of messaging tour and everything that we're doing here to try to inspire all of you that it's actually the greatest way to live.

00:37:21.000 I deleted all my social media apps.

00:37:22.000 You know, people come up to me, they say, Charlie, you're trending on Twitter.

00:37:25.000 I say, oh, really?

00:37:26.000 It feels exactly the same as when I wasn't trending on Twitter, right?

00:37:29.000 I really don't care.

00:37:32.000 You know, did I say something that was true or not?

00:37:34.000 And that's what I encourage all of you to do.

00:37:36.000 And you will find new friends, better friends, real friends that aren't looking side to side, but you're all looking at that ultimate purpose together.

00:37:43.000 Yeah, I love that.

00:37:44.000 That's one of the things I've talked to my family about.

00:37:46.000 I've talked to my congregation about is, as we do what we're doing, and we have that goal to be the two things Jesus said we are, salt and light.

00:37:55.000 You know, salt preserves, light reveals and we're gonna do that.

00:37:58.000 We're gonna be the things Jesus called us to be.

00:38:00.000 And the world has gone nuts, like you said.

00:38:03.000 I mean in the last 10 years.

00:38:04.000 Look what's gone on.

00:38:06.000 The world has gone completely delusional.

00:38:08.000 Now, as we seek to be what God's called us to be, I've got two areas of my life that I know are going to be solid, and that is my home and my church.

00:38:18.000 We're going to come together, we're going to love one another and encourage one another and build each other up and and we're going to have this camaraderie that the world wish it had.

00:38:27.000 And same thing within my home we're going to have.

00:38:29.000 It's going to be peaceful, we're going to have laughter, we're going to enjoy one another, and we can we can control those two environments.

00:38:35.000 We can't control what the rest of the world's doing, but we can control.

00:38:38.000 Control those two environments, and we're going to have peace within them.

00:38:43.000 I want to tell you, you said earlier that there are professors that are just miserable. 0.81

00:38:47.000 You said they hate themselves, hate this country. 0.98

00:38:50.000 Yeah.

00:38:50.000 So, but there are some that don't.

00:38:54.000 We talked about one earlier, and I want to just show just a quick, not a clip, but a slide of this professor out of Portland State University.

00:39:03.000 You happen to know this person.

00:39:04.000 Yeah, Peter Bogogian.

00:39:05.000 He's a really good guy.

00:39:06.000 Yeah.

00:39:07.000 He's not a Christian, but he's a very, very decent person.

00:39:09.000 I'm going to read a quote.

00:39:10.000 This is out of an article from the Epoch Times just this afternoon, but this is what this professor said.

00:39:14.000 I never once believed, nor do I now, that the purpose of instruction was to lead my students to a particular conclusion.

00:39:21.000 Rather, I sought to create the conditions for rigorous thought to help them gain the tools to hunt and furrow for their own conclusions.

00:39:28.000 This is why I became a teacher and why I love teaching.

00:39:31.000 But over time, he argued, Portland State University, a publicly funded college, made, quote, intellectual exploration impossible and has transformed itself into a social justice factory with a primary focus on race, victimhood, and gender.

00:39:49.000 So what would you say to public school teachers and professors?

00:39:54.000 Because a lot of people say, Tim, you hate teachers.

00:39:57.000 You're against teachers.

00:39:58.000 No, I don't hate teachers.

00:39:59.000 I'm not against teachers.

00:40:00.000 I don't like teachers that indoctrinate kids.

00:40:03.000 I like teachers that teach children the things that this professor talked about as far as why he did what he did, why he became a teacher.

00:40:10.000 So what encouragement would you give to teachers and how can they engage and have an effect?

00:40:16.000 And I just want to say first, Peter Bogogian is a liberal.

00:40:16.000 It's such a great question.

00:40:21.000 I've had him on my podcast before, which I'll tell you guys how to subscribe to, which would help us out a lot.

00:40:28.000 And if you guys want to listen, you guys can listen to our conversation with Peter Bogogian, which is really, really insightful and fun.

00:40:35.000 And he says that as someone who is not kind of as a conservative.

00:40:38.000 So yeah, look, we need to ask ourselves, what does the word education mean?

00:40:41.000 So the word education is a Latin word that comes from the word to lead forth.

00:40:47.000 Many of you know Socrates and his allegory of the cave, and it's hard to illustrate without actually putting it up on the screen.

00:40:54.000 But he argued that most people were living in a simulation where they're staring at a wall and looking at nothing more than a projection of what the fire would cast on the wall and the shadows and the puppeteers of what people want you to watch.

00:41:09.000 And that a true person is able to be liberated from outside the cave, led forth out of into the true world and see things actually as they are.

00:41:19.000 So that word education literally means to lead forth out of the cave.

00:41:23.000 And so the question should be, what is the goal then?

00:41:26.000 What are we leading them towards?

00:41:28.000 And so this is my big, you know, my big complaint against critical race theory and also about kind of how we as conservatives have lost the entire conversation.

00:41:39.000 Let's forget the word conservative.

00:41:40.000 How we as constitutionalists, how we as fair and decent people have kind of lost that entire conversation is that sometimes people are like, oh yeah, you know, it's all about giving students free speech and exposure to all ideas. 0.97

00:41:56.000 I'm like, where did you get that stupid idea that that's what education is all about? 0.65

00:42:00.000 It's about developing character and leading them towards things that are true. 0.99

00:42:06.000 It's not about getting them exposed to every awful idea that has ever been discovered.

00:42:12.000 You think that we should give a fourth grader an equal hearing to eugenics as to the idea of natural rights-based philosophy?

00:42:22.000 Of course not.

00:42:23.000 Of course not.

00:42:24.000 You think that we should give a fourth grader, you know what, we're going to teach you that white people are better than black people because we need to tell you that every single, every single sort of viewpoint needs to be represented here. 0.97

00:42:34.000 That'd be ludicrous.

00:42:35.000 Instead, what teachers need to realize, and the left realized this a long time ago, that all teaching at some point is not going to be viewpoint neutral.

00:42:46.000 This has always been a lie, okay?

00:42:49.000 That, like, oh yeah, we can like present all sides of the story and all this.

00:42:53.000 Now, what Peter Boghosian is talking about is giving people the tools and getting them closer, but people's bias is always going to seep through at some point, right?

00:43:01.000 What we really need to ask ourselves, the question is, are we properly exposing students to things that are consistent with the natural law and the lawgiver, or as the founding fathers would say, the laws of nature and nature's God, as it says in the Declaration of Independence.

00:43:19.000 And we know this as just what we would call this is a Greek word, prudentia, prudence, common sense, but so many students are being deprived of this.

00:43:28.000 And so, here's a really easy way that you could teach a third grader.

00:43:30.000 The most important thing a third grader can know besides knowing how to read and write.

00:43:34.000 This is the most important thing, and every parent needs to teach your kid this.

00:43:38.000 And it's biblical.

00:43:39.000 Are human beings naturally good or naturally bad?

00:43:41.000 It's the most important thing.

00:43:43.000 Yeah, naturally bad.

00:43:44.000 Most college students would say naturally good.

00:43:47.000 When polled, they'll say naturally good.

00:43:49.000 What's the significance of that question?

00:43:51.000 If you think that human beings are naturally good, then all of a sudden you have to explain why things aren't working the way they should be.

00:44:00.000 And they all of a sudden say it's because government isn't big enough, or it's because it's all the racism.

00:44:05.000 It's because of the police.

00:44:07.000 When in reality, we know it's a soul problem.

00:44:09.000 We know that it's within our genetic code.

00:44:12.000 It's within our programming since original sin that we are broken and we are nasty and we are brutish and short to each other, as Thomas Hobbes said in the book Leviathan in the 1500s.

00:44:23.000 Now, this is the most important question that's going on in our entire civilization right now.

00:44:28.000 What's the raw material you're dealing with here?

00:44:31.000 You know, we're all human beings.

00:44:32.000 We're the speaking beings.

00:44:33.000 Okay, are you naturally inclined to do bad things or naturally inclined to do good things?

00:44:39.000 And if you can't get that basic question right, then all the other political questions fall apart.

00:44:44.000 And this is where I wish the American church would do a much better job of speaking out.

00:44:48.000 Your church is doing an amazing job.

00:44:49.000 By the way, you have a great pastor here, everybody, who's doing a very, very good job.

00:44:52.000 Thank you.

00:44:56.000 Because if you don't get that question right, then all the rest falls apart.

00:45:01.000 And then finally, kind of to this about kind of what public sector teachers should do.

00:45:06.000 If you have tenure, dig in and be the radical.

00:45:11.000 Dig in and be like, you're not going to fire me.

00:45:13.000 I'm going to teach what I want to teach.

00:45:14.000 Like, you can't fire me.

00:45:16.000 I'm going to use tenure against you.

00:45:17.000 Okay?

00:45:18.000 Now, what does that require?

00:45:20.000 You're going to lose all your friends, and people are going to call you names, but tenure laws were written to protect the radicals in the 1970s and 80s.

00:45:27.000 They use them against us.

00:45:29.000 Let's start using them for us if you have tenure. 0.99

00:45:31.000 But yeah, you're going to live an unenjoyable life as a teacher.

00:45:33.000 Well, okay, well, you have a chance to really spread goodness and truth.

00:45:37.000 And I'm not saying ever to propagandize people, enlighten people.

00:45:42.000 They propagandize.

00:45:43.000 We bring people to the truth.

00:45:47.000 By the way, if I have 20 minutes with a student, I can deprogram 20 years of lies. 0.98

00:45:54.000 It takes them 20 years to build up the garbage that like you should focus on race and sex and color and all this. 1.00

00:46:02.000 It takes so long to build up that garbage. 0.99

00:46:05.000 When in reality, for us, it could take one sentence of truth to totally bring people closer to things that are eternal. 0.84

00:46:12.000 And so we need, so one of the reasons why our school system, and I'll just end this part of the comment on this, our school system is so screwed up is that we don't talk about the two different types of knowledge.

00:46:24.000 So there is practical knowledge, which is useful, sort of, I guess, but it changes.

00:46:29.000 But then there's eternal knowledge.

00:46:31.000 So practical knowledge is, for example, who's the governor of California?

00:46:36.000 Gavin Newsom, for now, right?

00:46:39.000 And so hopefully that will change very soon, right?

00:46:41.000 That is practical knowledge.

00:46:44.000 What is eternal knowledge?

00:46:46.000 Eternal knowledge is wisdom, things that don't change.

00:46:51.000 And students today are deprived of the knowledge of the things that don't change.

00:46:55.000 And the Bible, the 66 books, one author, is an entire book of things that do not change, that can become part of your own living experience of who you are as a person.

00:47:07.000 For example, what does power show you when a man has it? 0.85

00:47:12.000 What's the right way to organize society?

00:47:15.000 Is man meant to marry? 0.99

00:47:17.000 Are you supposed to have children?

00:47:19.000 Should you tell the truth?

00:47:21.000 What happens when all of a sudden you ask the question, do the ends justify the means?

00:47:26.000 Where do you find answers to those questions?

00:47:28.000 Not at a university.

00:47:32.000 Not looking through a microscope.

00:47:34.000 Not looking at a test tube.

00:47:35.000 You find it in the Bible.

00:47:36.000 You find it in wisdom, which is what we're not teaching our children right now.

00:47:40.000 Right, right.

00:47:43.000 I want to just piggyback off what you said.

00:47:48.000 To the teachers, and not just teachers, but whatever profession you find yourself in, we need to be shrewd.

00:47:55.000 This is one of the things I talk about in my book is Jesus said that the people of the world are more shrewd than his own people.

00:48:03.000 And the word shrewd, it simply means to find a way to make it happen.

00:48:07.000 And that's what we have to do.

00:48:09.000 The radical left has used those 10-year laws against us.

00:48:12.000 Well, why don't we use them right back?

00:48:14.000 This is being shrewd.

00:48:15.000 We need to find a way to make it happen.

00:48:17.000 Another thing is we have to stop worrying about being nice.

00:48:20.000 Okay, I said this at church on Sunday, and I had some people like, when I first said this, like, well, was Jesus nice?

00:48:25.000 And people were like, well, yeah, no, he was not.

00:48:28.000 Jesus was not nice.

00:48:29.000 You want to say something?

00:48:30.000 No, I mean, just go look at Luke 15.

00:48:30.000 Go ahead.

00:48:32.000 Like, someone go pull it up.

00:48:34.000 And he literally said, I came here to divide, not to unite.

00:48:37.000 It's the verse no one ever wants to talk about.

00:48:39.000 I came here to turn father against son and mother against daughter.

00:48:42.000 And I came here to divide the world, not unite the world.

00:48:45.000 It's the verse Christians don't like to cite very much.

00:48:47.000 Yep, Luke 15, Matthew 10, both of them.

00:48:49.000 Now, and also look at this.

00:48:52.000 Somebody's like, well, no, Jesus was nice.

00:48:54.000 I go, you want to bet?

00:48:55.000 He went to a woman at a well and he said, go get me your husband.

00:48:59.000 And she goes, I don't have one.

00:49:01.000 He goes, you said right, because you've had five.

00:49:03.000 And the dude you're living with right now, he ain't your husband.

00:49:06.000 Now, was that nice?

00:49:08.000 No, that wasn't nice, but it was love.

00:49:11.000 Because love presents people with the truth.

00:49:13.000 Okay, and that's what we have to remember.

00:49:15.000 We're living in a society where everybody thinks that we all have to be nice to one another and you have to be this nice Christian.

00:49:20.000 No, we don't have to be nice.

00:49:22.000 We have to be truthful and we have to be loving.

00:49:24.000 And there's a big difference between truth and love and being nice. 0.99

00:49:28.000 Yeah, and also, you know, the Bible tells you, you don't have to be a jerk to try to be callous. 0.98

00:49:33.000 That's not what the pastor is saying. 0.95

00:49:35.000 This is a really important thing, but nice comes from the word, what?

00:49:38.000 To ignore.

00:49:39.000 To ignore.

00:49:40.000 And so, look, I just had my four wisdom teeth pulled a couple days ago.

00:49:43.000 No swelling, no opioids, praise God, right?

00:49:45.000 It's amazing how quickly we've done a turnaround.

00:49:48.000 Really, truly, it's the Lord that allows me to be here.

00:49:51.000 And I say that when I, you know, I found out I had a tooth infection.

00:49:53.000 I can't stand surgery.

00:49:54.000 You know, I think this, we should actually share a dentist's building here, right, if I'm not mistaken.

00:49:58.000 Which I was like, like, flashbacks to NAM as I was hearing the drilling happen.

00:50:02.000 And so when I got my diagnosis, I want to know exactly what was happening.

00:50:08.000 I wanted the doctor to tell me the truth.

00:50:11.000 I don't want the doctor to be like, you know, it's all going to work out.

00:50:16.000 You know, I don't want you to hear it.

00:50:18.000 The doctor's like, you know what, you actually have an infection in your jaw and it could get into your bloodstream.

00:50:21.000 And if we don't take out your four wisdom teeth in the next couple weeks, at most, like, you could end up in a hospital and dead.

00:50:28.000 Now, that wasn't a nice thing to hear. 0.97

00:50:30.000 I hate dentists.

00:50:34.000 You with me, right? 0.88

00:50:34.000 You know what I'm talking about? 0.88

00:50:36.000 But she loved me so much.

00:50:38.000 She was like, you know what?

00:50:39.000 If I lie to him and I tell him what he wants to hear, he could die.

00:50:44.000 That's love.

00:50:46.000 Love is being like, hey, look at the x-ray.

00:50:48.000 I'm going to show you the truth as transparently as I can, right?

00:50:51.000 And it wasn't done in a callous or a jerky way.

00:50:54.000 But then when I tried to squirm out of it, I was like, ah, can I take antibiotics? 0.76

00:50:57.000 Yeah, if you want to die.

00:51:00.000 I was like, what?

00:51:01.000 It's like, yeah, what about this?

00:51:02.000 No.

00:51:03.000 This is what has to be done.

00:51:04.000 And that's kind of the, you know, kind of an earthly, not perfect equivalent of what Jesus said, no, I'm the way, the truth, and life.

00:51:10.000 Like, yeah, you can go find your own way, but if you want to go to heaven, you got to go through me.

00:51:13.000 And it's like, that's not a nice thing to hear, right?

00:51:15.000 That's not pleasant, but it's the truth.

00:51:17.000 And so I completely agree.

00:51:18.000 Yeah.

00:51:19.000 Yeah, we've got to get that through our minds.

00:51:21.000 And I'll be talking about that more as time goes on.

00:51:25.000 We don't have much time left, so I want to switch gears a tiny bit and talk about your involvement at a local school board meeting local to you.

00:51:34.000 I'm going to show a real quick clip and then I want to talk about it.

00:51:36.000 Take a look at this.

00:51:39.000 It kind of feels like I'm living in San Francisco because of all of you and your self-righteous measures that you're putting to abuse the children of this wonderful state.

00:51:50.000 I'm going to have children here one day, and I sure hope people like you aren't in charge.

00:51:56.000 You are defying Arizona law and measures to mask children, even though there is zero evidence to show that children are at a significant risk of catching or dying from the Chinese coronavirus.

00:52:11.000 By the way, I hope the Attorney General of this state acts with criminal intent against this school district for breaking the law and passing a curriculum without allowing parent input.

00:52:21.000 In closing, I'm going to say this.

00:52:23.000 Your time is soon up.

00:52:25.000 The people of this state and this school district are rising up.

00:52:28.000 There are recall measures in place.

00:52:30.000 You have awoke a sleeping giant.

00:52:31.000 I hope you enjoy your massed short-term future here while it still lasts.

00:52:36.000 Thank you.

00:52:37.000 Thank you.

00:52:44.000 So some would say that wasn't nice.

00:52:47.000 And I would agree, and I would say, you don't have to be nice.

00:52:50.000 This is the truth.

00:52:51.000 You're not going to be in that role anymore.

00:52:53.000 I recently told our local school boards the same thing, called them out by name.

00:52:57.000 You're not going to be there.

00:52:58.000 Why?

00:52:58.000 Because we're going to recall you.

00:53:00.000 We're going to put somebody else in your seat because that's the way a democratic republic works. 1.00

00:53:06.000 It's we the people.

00:53:08.000 But we the people need to voice our opinions and use the role of private citizen that we have and be shrewd and make sure that we have our way, that we're the parent, we get to do what we want.

00:53:20.000 So how would you encourage everybody here to get maybe some people don't feel comfortable doing what you did?

00:53:27.000 And that's okay, but there's other things that people can do.

00:53:30.000 How can we as a community be shrewd and start to have an effect here locally?

00:53:36.000 Yeah, and I mean, by the way, that was a fruit of the spirit of self-control.

00:53:40.000 You should hear what I really think.

00:53:41.000 And so that was very, you know, down the vein.

00:53:45.000 You know what I'm talking about.

00:53:46.000 So, yeah, just kind of with that really quick.

00:53:49.000 You know, we have a whole school board project at Turning Point USA.

00:53:52.000 It's called our school board watch list.

00:53:54.000 You guys can check it out, schoolboardwatchlist.org.

00:53:57.000 It's mostly an information project to empower you.

00:53:59.000 It's happening in local school districts.

00:54:01.000 But you guys are being wonderfully led by your pastor here, so you basically know what's going on.

00:54:05.000 But many other communities don't have that kind of input or guidance of what's happening.

00:54:10.000 And yeah, I got really irritated.

00:54:12.000 And so, you know, we have a national footprint.

00:54:15.000 Millions of people watch our stuff.

00:54:18.000 But I never want to be the guy that just kind of sits behind a desk and does a radio show and kind of just like tells other people what to do.

00:54:26.000 I've never been that person.

00:54:28.000 I was the one that went right into the Kavanaugh protests and had a lot of fun doing that.

00:54:32.000 You know, I got my start getting screamed at out of restaurants, out of Antifa coming and hunting me down in the streets.

00:54:39.000 That's kind of just kind of who I am, right?

00:54:41.000 And so when I found out that these tyrants in my local neighborhood of Scottsdale, where we're headquartered, were masking children against the will of the voters and state law, I was like, you know what?

00:54:53.000 Like, no, that's not going to happen.

00:54:55.000 Like, that's not the way this works, okay?

00:54:56.000 Like, no one knew who you were when no one showed, like, no one showed up and voted.

00:55:00.000 And if God gave me a platform, I'm going to come down like as hard as I possibly can.

00:55:05.000 So we showed up with hundreds of parents, hundreds of parents, at the Scottsdale Unified School District meeting.

00:55:10.000 And this has basically just become like sport for me.

00:55:14.000 Cause I, I, I, no, it really has.

00:55:17.000 Because, no, that one of the school board members really crossed the line with me.

00:55:21.000 And I'm a Scott and we don't forget, right?

00:55:24.000 So we just, yeah, we're going to win. 0.99

00:55:27.000 And so one of these jerks, he was like, yeah, you know, we need to mask children. 1.00

00:55:34.000 And like, all these conspiracy theorists and racists are going to be coming to the meeting tonight. 1.00

00:55:39.000 I was like, oh, really?

00:55:40.000 So you want to go pick a fight with us? 0.96

00:55:41.000 Like, that's fine.

00:55:43.000 So four recalls are going to be underway against four out of five of the school board members at the Scottsdale Unified School District.

00:55:51.000 And our political vehicle is doing a lot of this work.

00:55:54.000 And just know, turning point action and turning point pack, but just know this is super important.

00:55:59.000 Arizona is a battleground state.

00:56:00.000 You guys know this.

00:56:01.000 It's really important.

00:56:02.000 It's in play.

00:56:03.000 Can talk about the audit if you want, because that's an unrelated but somewhat related geographic thing with that.

00:56:08.000 But yeah, I mean, we mobilized hundreds of parents.

00:56:13.000 And here's what I learned that night.

00:56:14.000 My wife gave like the best speech ever. 0.98

00:56:16.000 I don't know if you guys saw it or not.

00:56:17.000 It was way better than me.

00:56:19.000 She spoke and she was like, we're going to do a moment of silence for every kid that's going to commit suicide because of all of you forcibly masking children. 0.56

00:56:25.000 And she just stood there silently.

00:56:27.000 And then one of the guys is what really upset me, is one of the school board members wearing a mask started checking his computer during the moment of silence.

00:56:35.000 My wife called him out and was like, sir, this is a moment of silence for the people that are about to commit suicide because of you.

00:56:41.000 And it was like total mic drop moment.

00:56:43.000 And yeah, and then at the 47th parent that we mobilized to the school board, and it wasn't just me, I'm not trying to take credit for it, but we have a deal where we do in Arizona.

00:56:53.000 We had it last night called Freedom Night in America, where we bring about 2,500 people in the local area of Arizona together once a month.

00:57:02.000 And we talk about the local issues.

00:57:03.000 We talk about the meetings we're going to show up at and the things we're going to do.

00:57:06.000 And it's all at a local church that we host this meeting at, which is kind of very similar to what you do here, which is just so awesome to know that you guys are doing this.

00:57:14.000 And so tons of parents showed up.

00:57:16.000 Anyway, the 47th parent spoke.

00:57:18.000 And what I realized, and I predicted this.

00:57:20.000 So my wife and I were driving afterwards while the testimony was still going on.

00:57:24.000 We were watching it on our phone.

00:57:25.000 It was like 115 degrees outside.

00:57:27.000 And my wife said, man, do you really think this is going to make a difference?

00:57:32.000 I said, here, here's my prediction.

00:57:33.000 I said, they've never been confronted and they're going to break.

00:57:37.000 And so all of a sudden, front page of the Arizona Republic the next morning, one of them was caught on a hot mic after the 47th parent who said something no person should ever say, an awful swear word involving our Lord and Savior, right? 0.94

00:57:50.000 Being like, this is so ridiculous. 0.70

00:57:52.000 Who are these awful people on an open mic and like mired in scandal, right? 0.98

00:57:57.000 And it was a great lesson.

00:57:58.000 Evil hates when it's confronted with light.

00:58:02.000 And it says in Romans to love what is good and to hate what is evil, right? 0.72

00:58:06.000 And it's, and so we're basically, we're in the midst of a recall of those four out of five of those clowns that voted for the mask mandate.

00:58:15.000 And they have not ever experienced anything about what we're cooking up against them because they have been allowed like serpents in the grass, undetected, to go after our children.

00:58:25.000 But I feel called, and we're doing this across the country, and we're helping in Harris County with some other pastors that are doing this.

00:58:32.000 We're helping in other areas.

00:58:33.000 But this is the one thing I want you guys to care about.

00:58:36.000 And if I could just kind of elaborate on this.

00:58:38.000 The trend is going to continue this way, where we're caring less about the international and we're caring less about the national and we're caring more about the local.

00:58:48.000 Do you notice that?

00:58:49.000 That's a healthy thing, actually.

00:58:52.000 It's a healthy thing to care about your neighborhood and your children.

00:58:54.000 And I think we've actually forgot that.

00:58:56.000 We thought, like, oh, yeah, you know, Trump on Air Force One is going to solve everything.

00:59:00.000 Meanwhile, who cares about the school board?

00:59:02.000 Right?

00:59:03.000 So I, for one, I'm like, you know what?

00:59:04.000 No, I'm not going to do what we do at Turning Point and just sit idly by while the local school district that I pay taxes to is going to act like these tyrants.

00:59:14.000 And so I want to know that while you guys are doing what you're doing here in your local area, in Arizona, we're leading a huge counteroffensive.

00:59:21.000 And those people, their time soon's up, I'm telling you.

00:59:24.000 And what you've just said was biblical.

00:59:28.000 I don't know if you guys caught it, but what Charlie just said is actually a part of the Great Commission.

00:59:34.000 When we look at what Jesus called us to do, he called us to deal with Jerusalem first, then Judea and Samaria, and then the uttermost parts of the earth, right? 0.97

00:59:45.000 And that is, when we look at our own mission individually and what we do, like for us here at 412 Church in Marietta, for those of you that, because not everybody goes here, you know, a lot of people come here Wednesday nights for our watch, but I pastor the church that meets in this building, 412 Church in Marietta, and we look at what are we going to do in our Jerusalem, which is right here in Marietta.

01:00:06.000 And then we go, okay, what about the rest of the state, Judea and Samaria?

01:00:10.000 And then what about the rest of the world?

01:00:12.000 And that's the problem with a lot of the churches is they've been focusing on, oh, we got to send missions.

01:00:16.000 We got to send missions to Africa.

01:00:18.000 And I've been part of it.

01:00:19.000 I was a missionary in Indonesia.

01:00:20.000 I speak Indonesian.

01:00:22.000 I've done missions work out there.

01:00:24.000 I know and I appreciate missions work.

01:00:27.000 But when you can walk into the middle of a megachurch here in America and say, how many of you think that gay marriage is okay?

01:00:32.000 And there's like half the people raising their hands saying this is okay.

01:00:35.000 How many of you think that critical race theory is a good thing, should be taught and we should march with Black Lives Matter?

01:00:39.000 And hands go up everywhere.

01:00:40.000 You've got a lot of work to do in your Jerusalem.

01:00:43.000 You've got a lot of work.

01:00:44.000 And how dare you think you can go send people to another country if you can't do the work here?

01:00:50.000 Yeah, and that's exactly right.

01:00:52.000 And in Jeremiah 29, 7, the Lord speaks and he says, demand the welfare of the city that I have sent you in because your welfare is tied to the city's welfare.

01:01:07.000 And so I just want to encourage all of you, the trend is actually, and this is a really interesting thing.

01:01:12.000 The globalists have actually participated, in my opinion, in one of the most epic failures of a modern project.

01:01:21.000 There are more countries in the world than ever before.

01:01:24.000 Not less.

01:01:25.000 The globalist project was supposed to create less countries, right?

01:01:29.000 There were about 100 countries post-World War II.

01:01:33.000 There's well over 280 now.

01:01:36.000 We have countries getting out of these unilateral agreements.

01:01:39.000 Brexit is one example.

01:01:41.000 We are adding countries in Europe, like North Macedonia.

01:01:45.000 So we have states that are looking to care more about what's happening in their local community than not.

01:01:50.000 And so that should empower you, shouldn't it?

01:01:53.000 Because you're like, man, D.C.'s corrupt. 0.97

01:01:55.000 Sacramento's corrupt. 0.98

01:01:57.000 Even the county's corrupt. 0.95

01:01:58.000 But my neighborhood, I got that.

01:02:01.000 That should empower you guys.

01:02:03.000 So think about it that way because the movement the last 60 years has been to disempower you.

01:02:08.000 And now all of a sudden we're seeing the trend the other way.

01:02:11.000 Right.

01:02:11.000 Let me tell you, just like for here locally, Marietta, we look at the Marietta School Board.

01:02:15.000 Prior to COVID, I was telling parents, you've got to wake up to what's being taught.

01:02:19.000 It's being taught right here in Marietta.

01:02:21.000 Teaching our kids that they can be an infinite number of genders and all this stuff that came out of AB 329.

01:02:26.000 This was several years back.

01:02:28.000 It's a law that was put in place right here in California where they start teaching our kids not sex ed but sexuality training, how to be involved in sexual experiences, all these things.

01:02:37.000 The people said, not in Marietta, not in this great, but it's a great conservative, and it is.

01:02:42.000 It's a great conservative place to live.

01:02:44.000 I love Marietta.

01:02:45.000 I've been here for a long time.

01:02:46.000 I've raised my kids here.

01:02:48.000 I've got a grandkid on the way I'm going to raise around here.

01:02:50.000 And it is a good place.

01:02:52.000 But here's what was happening.

01:02:54.000 The Marietta School District, we actually got together with attorney Bob Tyler from Advocates for Faith and Freedom, put together a parental rights policy.

01:03:02.000 We told the school district, we will advise you pro bono on how to install this policy.

01:03:08.000 If anybody brings a lawsuit to the school district, we will defend you pro bono.

01:03:14.000 I mean, they had no reason to not put this in.

01:03:16.000 And do you know what the school board did unanimously?

01:03:20.000 They voted down the parental rights policy and then instead put in policies that were the pro-LGBT policies that would reinforce these things to be taught to your kids and make sure that you, the parent, wouldn't have those rights. 0.64

01:03:32.000 They voted unanimously for that.

01:03:34.000 This is what we're saying: we can deal with that locally.

01:03:37.000 We can deal with that.

01:03:38.000 We can get new people on the school board that are going to side with the parents and grandparents.

01:03:43.000 And that's what we should do.

01:03:44.000 And that's what we can.

01:03:46.000 We can't worry so much about these national things.

01:03:48.000 If we can't get our own backyard right, what are we doing with the rest of it?

01:03:52.000 That's right.

01:03:53.000 This is something we can do, we will do, guaranteed.

01:03:56.000 That's right.

01:03:58.000 Totally.

01:03:58.000 And everyone here has more power than you realize.

01:04:04.000 And so here's some what you guys want some good news.

01:04:07.000 I'll give you some good news.

01:04:08.000 I mean, because there's so much bad news out there.

01:04:10.000 Yeah, Jesus is coming soon.

01:04:12.000 That is true.

01:04:13.000 I agree.

01:04:14.000 But let's say some good news outside of the eternal and the divine, but are related to this.

01:04:22.000 About two years ago, where you and I first met, I said that we need to double our homeschooling population in America as one of the things that we need to do to try and save America.

01:04:36.000 The numbers are out.

01:04:37.000 So two years ago, if I sat here, there would be 5 million families homeschooling.

01:04:42.000 There are now 10.2 million families that are homeschooling across America.

01:04:49.000 Now, this is not, I want to say a couple things.

01:04:53.000 Number one, if you are retired, I want to ask you to pray about becoming a mentor or becoming an assistant adjunct to a homeschooling family that maybe you're like, man, I can't teach anything.

01:05:06.000 How about this?

01:05:06.000 Go do the grocery shopping for that family so that they have the opportunity to homeschool their kids.

01:05:12.000 And no more idle hands.

01:05:14.000 No more idle hands.

01:05:15.000 I get people that ask me all the time, and I'll be honest, I lose patience sometimes.

01:05:20.000 This one, I really lose patience.

01:05:21.000 Charlie, what do I do?

01:05:22.000 I'm like, really?

01:05:23.000 You think there's nothing to do right now to save the country?

01:05:26.000 How many kids are you mentoring?

01:05:27.000 How many homeschooling families are you assisting?

01:05:29.000 Who are your school district members by name?

01:05:31.000 How many FOIA requests did you file last week?

01:05:33.000 What's your mayor's name, city council name?

01:05:35.000 What's the local city council budget?

01:05:36.000 What are they spending on this?

01:05:38.000 They're like, oh, I never knew you could do that.

01:05:39.000 I'm like, yeah, okay, well, you know, let's turn off the cable television.

01:05:43.000 Let's get into the weeds, right?

01:05:44.000 But the homeschooling thing is awesome.

01:05:46.000 So I just want to say, for the parents out there that are homeschooling, we are here to help you, and I want to encourage you.

01:05:51.000 So we've just launched a new program with Hillsdale College, which is terrific.

01:05:56.000 That's charlie4hillsdale.com, Charlie F-O-R-Hillsdale.com, where you guys can get the entire curriculum on American history, Aristotle, Winston, Churchill, Euclidean geometry.

01:06:07.000 It's a great kind of auxiliary tool to what you guys probably already have, but it's terrific.

01:06:11.000 But if you're out there like, man, homeschooling is not for me.

01:06:14.000 I can't do it.

01:06:15.000 It's too hard.

01:06:16.000 I get it.

01:06:16.000 My parents were that way.

01:06:18.000 Then here's my challenge to you.

01:06:19.000 If you're a grandparent or a parent, this is the most important thing that I'm going to ask you to do here besides getting your kids to love the Lord.

01:06:26.000 Take one hour a week where you turn off all the screens and you teach your kids what you learned that week from one of these Hillsdale courses or something you read.

01:06:36.000 If you're not doing that, then you have given your child over to other people.

01:06:41.000 One hour a week will change your child's life.

01:06:43.000 Where it's dedicated for that.

01:06:45.000 Call it the Liberty Hour.

01:06:46.000 Now, some of you are like, we're already doing that.

01:06:47.000 We do that every night.

01:06:48.000 Great.

01:06:48.000 Then this is not for you.

01:06:49.000 But I bet there's someone here right now where you're like, man, we really could do that.

01:06:53.000 Instead of watching a Netflix series or a Hulu special before the kids run into their video games, say, nope, I'm in charge.

01:07:01.000 Dinner's over.

01:07:01.000 We all sit at the table now.

01:07:02.000 We're going to do an hour about George Washington.

01:07:04.000 You're like, man, I couldn't do five minutes on it.

01:07:07.000 Well, go to charlie at fourhillsdale.com and you could go take one of these courses.

01:07:12.000 And they're easy to go through.

01:07:14.000 Like they're 30 minutes each.

01:07:15.000 And so in your idle time, what are you doing?

01:07:18.000 I want you to take inventory of your idle time.

01:07:20.000 Are you watching movies that really don't make you any wiser?

01:07:25.000 Like, oh, yeah, big action films or whatever.

01:07:27.000 Or are you all of a sudden, like, man, I really want to learn more about the founding of this country.

01:07:32.000 I want to learn more about Abraham Lincoln.

01:07:35.000 If all of you are like, man, I know all that stuff.

01:07:38.000 All right, go learn about the greatest man to live in the 20th century, Winston Churchill.

01:07:41.000 I guarantee you there's something you don't know about Churchill.

01:07:44.000 He was amazing.

01:07:46.000 He was the most incredible leader for a time that God put him in a perfect place to save Western civilization.

01:07:52.000 You want to talk about someone who was hated before and after?

01:07:55.000 He was a leader.

01:07:56.000 Go learn about his prudence, his decision-making.

01:07:59.000 He wrote 50 books.

01:08:00.000 He's a great role model for young people to go after.

01:08:03.000 He was born in a life of luxury, served in several wars.

01:08:06.000 I could go on.

01:08:07.000 The point is this: the most important thing we could do to influence our local area is go influence your kids and your grandkids.

01:08:15.000 And all of you guys now have the power and the tools to do that.

01:08:19.000 And so I encourage all of you to do that Liberty Hour every single week.

01:08:22.000 This is what my parents did for me.

01:08:24.000 People said, Charlie, how'd you get to be so conservative?

01:08:26.000 Were you homeschooled?

01:08:27.000 Nope.

01:08:28.000 Nope.

01:08:28.000 Private school?

01:08:29.000 Public school.

01:08:30.000 But my parents, every single, every, you know, every couple nights would be like, hey, we're going to talk about American history.

01:08:36.000 We're going to talk about geography.

01:08:38.000 We're going to talk about what's right in the world. 0.99

01:08:40.000 And all that nonsense at school would always just be like, yeah, this is all garbage. 0.99

01:08:44.000 Because I know it's true. 0.98

01:08:45.000 One hour a week could change your kids' life.

01:08:48.000 Yeah.

01:08:54.000 You know, another thing to consider about homeschooling, because I homeschooled my daughter. 0.99

01:08:59.000 I never wanted a homeschool.

01:09:01.000 And I kind of, when my kids were growing up, I always thought like the homeschool kids are weird.

01:09:07.000 I had the same stigma, to be perfectly honest.

01:09:09.000 That's how I thought, like, oh, man.

01:09:10.000 But what I realized now, we ended up homeschooling her, and it was the best decision we ever made.

01:09:16.000 And I could tell you this: the homeschooled kids, they are going to be the leaders of this next generation.

01:09:21.000 So can I say something?

01:09:22.000 Yeah.

01:09:23.000 And so we have the VisionCast 2050 headline of the New York Times.

01:09:31.000 Surprising right turn in America, attributable to homeschooling explosion during the coronavirus pandemic.

01:09:40.000 That's the America we're fighting for, isn't it?

01:09:43.000 I want all of a sudden the liberals to be like, 10 million families are homeschooling?

01:09:43.000 Right.

01:09:48.000 You understand how much 10 million families are, right?

01:09:51.000 You're talking about 2 million, 2 to 5 kids per family.

01:09:55.000 That's, and by the way, just so you know, like 98% of kids that are homeschooled end up being conservative Republican voters, okay?

01:10:02.000 There's like 2% that are like these weird, hippie liberals in like northern Vermont.

01:10:06.000 But like, look, if you're homeschooling your kids, it's like you're not one of those people, right?

01:10:11.000 And so if we now get home, just so you guys know, and this is another thing you have to be prepared, right?

01:10:17.000 What does it say that Satan is prowling the earth like a lion looking for people to devour and destroy?

01:10:23.000 The next big push is going to be about criminalizing homeschooling.

01:10:26.000 It's coming very soon.

01:10:28.000 And it's already been, it's going to come sooner.

01:10:30.000 I'm telling you right now, because they're going to look a year from now, if we all of a sudden get 12 to 15 million families homeschooling, they're going to do the math.

01:10:38.000 They're going to be like, man, we can't bring in enough Afghan refugees to offset this. 1.00

01:10:45.000 Like, we can't bring in enough Elon Omars that hate the country, right?

01:10:50.000 Where you're looking at all of a sudden in 2035, a voting age, the most conservative generation in American history.

01:10:57.000 And so I want to empower you and encourage you.

01:10:59.000 You might be like, man, what can I do?

01:11:01.000 If you're homeschooling or helping a homeschooling family, you are playing a role in developing a generation that will help save the country.

01:11:09.000 Right.

01:11:10.000 Right.

01:11:14.000 We do have homeschools, groups that meet right here at the church.

01:11:18.000 If you want more information, just go to our webpage, 412marietta.com.

01:11:22.000 You can check it out there.

01:11:23.000 We'd love to have you get your kids into homeschool.

01:11:25.000 It's so important that we do that.

01:11:26.000 Okay, what would you say are, as you look at the public school system, what would you say are the top three issues and how do we get involved in helping to correct it?

01:11:38.000 Yeah, number one is the lack.

01:11:42.000 I mean, it's so obvious.

01:11:43.000 You say public school?

01:11:44.000 Public school.

01:11:45.000 Yeah, I mean, it's the lack of God and the lack of objective truth, but you really wouldn't expect that, would you?

01:11:51.000 But then number two, which is so important, which is how we teach history.

01:11:56.000 I love history.

01:11:57.000 And if you're a Christian, you should love history because the Bible is a historical document.

01:12:03.000 These things happened.

01:12:04.000 Okay, these are real things.

01:12:05.000 There was a King Hezekiah.

01:12:07.000 There was a King David.

01:12:08.000 There was a King Solomon.

01:12:10.000 So you should love history.

01:12:11.000 And history can be a wonderful guide for all of us.

01:12:15.000 The way that we teach American history in our public schools is evil.

01:12:20.000 And I could go toe-to-toe with any one of the scholars on the other side on the 1619 project and the actual founding.

01:12:27.000 You know, the great, the late Harry Jaffa, who actually taught right at the Claremont Institute not far from here at Claremont McKenna College, he said that people can know three things really, really well.

01:12:37.000 I want in 20 years from now to know the American founding really, really well.

01:12:42.000 I spend hours a day learning about Jonathan Mayhew and George Whitfield and Chaucy and the American founders and Hamilton and Madison and Jay and Adams and Monroe.

01:12:52.000 These were brilliant, spirit-filled people, everybody, that gave us a gift of a self-governing, natural law, natural rights-based constitutional republic that is so unique that taking it for granted is something that I believe goes against the biblical commandment to appreciate what has been given to you that is good and noble and true.

01:13:14.000 And so history is number two.

01:13:16.000 And then number three is something that, you know, you've had the courage to speak out on here, but it's the sexual degeneracy stuff that's being taught in the school.

01:13:23.000 I mean, you know, I spoke at a church group, and I won't tell you where, of young kids, they were teenagers, and at a church, and I told them, I said, you know, you got to save yourself for marriage.

01:13:36.000 And it was silent.

01:13:38.000 Like silent.

01:13:40.000 It was like guilty silence.

01:13:42.000 These were like 16, 17, and 18-year-olds of kids that were like looking down and all around.

01:13:47.000 And I was like, whoa, we got a real problem.

01:13:50.000 And this is something that the church needs to continue to speak openly about.

01:13:54.000 The church needs to do a better job.

01:13:56.000 I have a whole list of things the church needs to do a better job of celebrating and creating almost this goal of marriage.

01:14:03.000 I'll be honest, I got married in May.

01:14:05.000 95% of comments I got from Christians about marriage were negative.

01:14:12.000 95%.

01:14:14.000 Like, man, it's hard.

01:14:15.000 It's tough.

01:14:16.000 Like, you're getting ready to put on your death suit.

01:14:19.000 Like, you know, it was like, man, this is awful to hear about.

01:14:22.000 It's actually been amazing, right?

01:14:23.000 I love being married.

01:14:25.000 And the real, you know, my real Christian mentors, like Rob McCoy and others, were so wonderful about it.

01:14:31.000 But so many kids don't look at marriage as the ideal because they see nothing but divorce and brokenness and abuse and all of this.

01:14:39.000 And I'm not saying that there aren't reasons for that.

01:14:42.000 That's not my role.

01:14:43.000 But let's celebrate it a little bit more, right?

01:14:45.000 Like, let's lift it up.

01:14:46.000 Let's say, like, this is what we want young people to strive for, right?

01:14:50.000 And to have a bunch of kids and to want to flourish in your community.

01:14:57.000 And so that's really where a lot of the sexual degeneracy stuff comes from, just so you know, is that a lot of kids fall into it because they're not given the ideal to strive for.

01:15:07.000 And that comes with the transgenderism. 0.98

01:15:09.000 That comes with the outward hedonism that comes into our schools.

01:15:13.000 And look, I've just become more socially conservative in local years.

01:15:16.000 I've always been socially conservative, but I've just become more so because, honestly, it's just the way God wants you to live, which is, you know, one man, one woman marriage, obviously pro-life through and through, but also just the way we talk about these things from a social norm standpoint.

01:15:31.000 And like, this is one of the other reasons why parents shouldn't give your kids phones.

01:15:35.000 Have you looked at Instagram?

01:15:37.000 It is a degenerate platform.

01:15:39.000 And by the way, like, I've got to be really careful the way I say this.

01:15:42.000 See, I'm not always careful, but I got to be careful because I will offend people if I say this.

01:15:46.000 Like, young Christian women, like, what are you posting?

01:15:49.000 Like, you understand what men think of you.

01:15:51.000 You know what?

01:15:52.000 I didn't even say I have to say it, but when men see that, they think so lowly of you.

01:15:56.000 They look at you as an object.

01:15:58.000 I'm just so proud of my wife for what she puts on social media as an incredibly beautiful person and has been so careful about that.

01:16:06.000 And so that's why kids should just get off of social media because you're training your mind to look at people in a way that is so sinful and lustful and terrible.

01:16:16.000 And so you don't have to live in that kind of environment.

01:16:19.000 And so, anyway, I know I'm kind of going over my time on this, but those are the three things I would say: the lack of God, which is obvious.

01:16:24.000 The way we teach American history, which is terrible, and then kind of the sexual degeneracy stuff. 0.75

01:16:28.000 Yeah.

01:16:29.000 Yeah, you know, my daughter always said, modest is hottest.

01:16:32.000 And that's true.

01:16:35.000 I agree.

01:16:38.000 I want more Christians to believe that.

01:16:40.000 Yeah.

01:16:40.000 You know, we as Christians, we have to come to the determination: do we believe that what is in here is true?

01:16:48.000 And that's the thing: if we believe that what is in here is true, and that God is not a liar, Psalm 127 talks about our kids.

01:16:55.000 It says that our kids are like arrows in the hands of a warrior.

01:16:59.000 And happy is a man who has a quiver with one or two in there.

01:17:04.000 It's not what it says, is it?

01:17:06.000 Full.

01:17:07.000 I'm the oldest.

01:17:08.000 I'm the oldest of my mother's eight children.

01:17:10.000 It's amazing.

01:17:11.000 Eight.

01:17:12.000 And I can tell you, my dad said, because there's four boys, four girls.

01:17:14.000 My dad said, you know what, Tim?

01:17:16.000 We get older, something happens.

01:17:18.000 And we all live local.

01:17:19.000 We all love each other.

01:17:20.000 We all vote the same.

01:17:20.000 We all actually enjoy Thanksgiving together.

01:17:23.000 Like, this is family is awesome to us.

01:17:26.000 And my dad said, you know, when we get older, something happens to me.

01:17:29.000 I got my boys.

01:17:30.000 Something happens to mom, she's got the girls. 0.80

01:17:32.000 And you know what, Tim?

01:17:33.000 I will never, ever be lonely.

01:17:35.000 And so I got to tell you a story, and it's from someone that you would all recognize, but I won't breach his confidence.

01:17:40.000 And it's a story that he told me firsthand that has always resonated with me.

01:17:45.000 And so he was hunting on Thanksgiving Day in Florida with his son.

01:17:53.000 And they went off the side of the road to go to a convenience store or something.

01:17:56.000 I want to think working on Thanksgiving Day to go to a convenience store.

01:17:59.000 And he checks out and he's starting to talk to the woman who's kind of scanning all of the good, you know, everything that's going on.

01:18:06.000 And he says, how's your day going?

01:18:08.000 She says, oh, she's like, you know, later I'm having Thanksgiving.

01:18:11.000 And, you know, I got nine kids.

01:18:14.000 And you know, I got you know, one of them's in prison, and like, you know, one of them's got a baby mama here, one of them's got here, and like, you know, all this all over here.

01:18:22.000 He's like, wow.

01:18:22.000 And he's like, you're working on Thanksgiving.

01:18:24.000 And she goes on and on and on.

01:18:25.000 She's like, I know.

01:18:27.000 I know.

01:18:28.000 I'm super blessed.

01:18:30.000 I know.

01:18:30.000 Nine kids.

01:18:31.000 I'm the luckiest person in the world.

01:18:32.000 He's like, oh my gosh, I've been looking at the world all wrong.

01:18:35.000 It's like, that's the real earthly prize we have, which is like have major families and be able to be fruitful and multiply.

01:18:44.000 Like, no one cares how many houses you have. 0.59

01:18:46.000 Like, those people are miserable. 0.92

01:18:47.000 I know a lot of them. 0.76

01:18:49.000 The people with the largest families are the happiest people that I know.

01:18:52.000 And we lost this.

01:18:53.000 Like, that used to be America in the 1960s and 1970s, which is a country that had lots of children and valued things that were eternal and that mattered.

01:19:02.000 And instead, we made a bargain.

01:19:04.000 We're like, okay, we're going to have like one of each.

01:19:06.000 Like, we're picking out like, you know, tiling or something.

01:19:10.000 I don't know.

01:19:11.000 Like, oh, yeah, I'm going to have one of each.

01:19:12.000 Like, okay, that's weird.

01:19:14.000 And it's like, and by the way, you know, I come from a two-kid family.

01:19:16.000 It's fine.

01:19:17.000 But like, we're going to bring in a bunch of immigrants to do the jobs because that we don't want to do, right? 1.00

01:19:22.000 Because that's the way we're going to design society because we're not going to have enough kids to be able to live the luxury we want.

01:19:27.000 And now we're reaping the benefits of that.

01:19:29.000 And so, look, they're conservative movement.

01:19:30.000 We need to be the big family movement.

01:19:32.000 We need to be like, you know what?

01:19:33.000 No, we're going to pay you to have children, lots of children, because that's an objective moral good.

01:19:38.000 Yeah, there's one thing.

01:19:39.000 Chiara Mapp, when we did her interview, she wants, how many kids, Kiara?

01:19:42.000 How many kids do you want to have? 0.56

01:19:45.000 Five.

01:19:46.000 There you go.

01:19:46.000 You got to love that.

01:19:48.000 That is awesome.

01:19:49.000 We need more young people to have that mentality.

01:19:52.000 I want big family.

01:19:53.000 And I'm telling you, as the oldest of eight kids, big family is awesome.

01:19:58.000 And I just love seeing parents with tons of kids and the chaos and the whole thing.

01:20:02.000 And I know you're all like, oh, Charlie, no, no, it's your parent.

01:20:04.000 You're like, you're probably right.

01:20:05.000 Yeah.

01:20:06.000 But you know what I know when I see that?

01:20:07.000 I see a parent that's taking responsibility.

01:20:09.000 I see intergenerational love.

01:20:11.000 I see things being passed down.

01:20:12.000 I see things that are going to last.

01:20:14.000 I see the God, God, God wants you to live that way.

01:20:17.000 And I see something that is beautiful.

01:20:19.000 And I don't feel that way when I see like a 38-year-old that's like some like pharmaceutical executive that works for Pfizer that pulls up with like a big car. 1.00

01:20:25.000 I'm like, you're a jerk. 0.99

01:20:26.000 Like, you know, like, seriously, I'm like, I think so lowly of you. 1.00

01:20:30.000 Like, go, you know, where's the guy with seven kids?

01:20:32.000 Like, that guy's a hero in my book.

01:20:33.000 Yeah.

01:20:34.000 Yeah.

01:20:36.000 Couldn't bring it, couldn't agree more because that describes my dad and he is my hero.

01:20:41.000 All right.

01:20:41.000 So people want to connect well with you.

01:20:45.000 You've got a podcast.

01:20:46.000 Like, how can people subscribe to that and hear more from you every day?

01:20:51.000 So for those of you that have heard me speak before, you kind of know that I do one shameless plug every single speech.

01:20:58.000 So look, big tech censorship is a major issue. 0.98

01:21:01.000 As you well know, Google just came out today, by the way, with their new anti-racist equity guidelines of what they're teaching all their employees, that white people are the worst thing ever. 0.91

01:21:11.000 And these companies have way too much power, right?

01:21:14.000 So they have slated me and our show, not just Google, but many others, for potential cancellation.

01:21:21.000 But the way that that could be pushed back against is when people independently, especially at gatherings like this, subscribe to our program.

01:21:30.000 It's free of charge.

01:21:31.000 I know it sounds silly and super self-promotional.

01:21:33.000 So everyone has a phone.

01:21:34.000 And if you have an Apple smartphone, there's a podcast app.

01:21:37.000 And you take it out and you just type in Charlie Kirk Show and you hit subscribe.

01:21:41.000 You're right there.

01:21:41.000 You're subscribed.

01:21:42.000 Thank you.

01:21:42.000 Go ahead and do it right now.

01:21:44.000 If you guys would thank you so much.

01:21:45.000 I know some of you already subscribed.

01:21:47.000 We do two podcasts a day.

01:21:48.000 So let me try to get your, let me try to pique your curiosity if I haven't already.

01:21:52.000 We have Dr. Lee Merritt on our podcast that talks about the vaccine, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.

01:21:58.000 By the way, we are one of the few podcasts.

01:22:00.000 We didn't get into the vaccine thing.

01:22:01.000 I know you're on YouTube, so I got to be careful, but like, we talk, I'm not getting vaccinated, and I will not get vaccinated at gunpoint.

01:22:12.000 And we're one of the few podcasts to talk about that.

01:22:14.000 We talk about what's going on with school choice and with school boards.

01:22:18.000 We talk about what's going on in Afghanistan.

01:22:19.000 So, if you guys, that piques your interest.

01:22:21.000 We are a daily news source.

01:22:22.000 It is family friendly.

01:22:24.000 We never swear.

01:22:25.000 We are never unseemly in any way whatsoever.

01:22:27.000 Now, we are, we do mock the left a little bit, but I think you guys will make some allowances for that.

01:22:32.000 But, no, if you guys would do that, that's great.

01:22:34.000 And in closing, with that, if you don't know how to subscribe, you're like, man, I don't know how to subscribe to this podcast.

01:22:40.000 I see an eight-year-old somewhere that would be able to guide you through that entire process.

01:22:44.000 It would bless us a lot.

01:22:46.000 And so, thank you guys.

01:22:47.000 It really does help us.

01:22:52.000 Well, Charlie, I want to thank you for coming out.

01:22:54.000 I know you've got a busy schedule.

01:22:55.000 You got a lot to do.

01:22:56.000 You're actually here in California.

01:22:57.000 You're going to be doing a lot of things.

01:22:59.000 Yeah, we're doing a recall Gavin Newsom rally tomorrow, which is great.

01:23:05.000 And we're all over the place.

01:23:07.000 I'm going back and forth to your Belinda tomorrow, which Homer Richard Nixon. 0.97

01:23:13.000 And then back to Rancho Santa Fe.

01:23:16.000 And then we're going, I'll have an event in Anaheim on Sunday with Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, and Larry Elder.

01:23:21.000 That's going to be a lot of fun.

01:23:22.000 So we're all over the place.

01:23:24.000 And I want to say, I'll just say this in closing.

01:23:26.000 I live in Arizona, but I love California.

01:23:29.000 I love you guys.

01:23:30.000 I come here a lot.

01:23:31.000 I pay way too much in California income tax because I come here so often.

01:23:36.000 And it's kind of funny.

01:23:37.000 So this is how tyrannical the California Franchise Tax Board is.

01:23:40.000 They come and send us a letter, and they're like, okay, we're going to tax you as a percentage of what your podcast listenership is.

01:23:46.000 And so, since we're, so popular in California, I have to pay 25% of all of our net proceeds because 25% of our listeners are Californians that they send us a bill based on our that's.

01:23:58.000 That's literally what we have to do.

01:23:59.000 So, as a California resident, I pay a lot in California taxes.

01:24:02.000 So please don't give up on California.

01:24:04.000 You guys have probably already voted, and you voted correctly, obviously yes on all the ballots right, but more importantly than that, let's double that homeschooling population again.

01:24:13.000 Do reject this idea of nihilism and cynicism.

01:24:18.000 I'm telling you everybody, we're about to turn a spiritual corner.

01:24:21.000 We are turning a corner in our country right now and you are all leaders in that, and I am so blessed to fight alongside of you every single day to show up to school board meetings.

01:24:31.000 I'm going on a college campus tour ready for this.

01:24:34.000 University OF Oregon, pray for me.

01:24:36.000 Boise State University.

01:24:37.000 University OF Vermont, intercessory prayer meeting that night.

01:24:40.000 I'm going to send you the date okay Vermont like like, it's going to be something else.

01:24:44.000 Uh, we're going to University Minnesota.

01:24:46.000 University OF Michigan.

01:24:47.000 We're going to Clemson.

01:24:49.000 We're going to Alabama, not to mention, I am doing, from now to the end of the year, 125 other speeches in addition to all of our podcasts and our radio shows.

01:24:58.000 We are not slowing down everybody, because we have a country to save and i'm honored to be fighting alongside all of you.

01:25:04.000 Go bless you guys.

01:25:05.000 Thank you so much.

01:25:09.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:25:10.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:25:13.000 And if you want to support our program, you can do so at charliekirk.com/slash support.

01:25:18.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:25:19.000 God bless.

01:25:20.000 Speak to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - September 19, 2021

'We're Turning a Spiritual Corner in Our Country'—LIVE From 412 Murrieta Church with Pastor Tim Thompson

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