The Charlie Kirk Show - We The People Vs. Primetime Hearings with Darren Beattie

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, inflation is a thief.

00:00:01.000 We dive into new inflation numbers and also Darren Beattie to unpack his reaction to the January 6th committee primetime hearing.

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00:00:31.000 Here we go.

00:00:33.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:14.000 We're not going to lead with what happened last night.

00:01:17.000 Front page of the New York Times panel says Trump-led attempted coup.

00:01:22.000 That is not going to be our lead today.

00:01:23.000 We are going to have Darren Beattie to help unpack what we might not be talking about when it comes to this.

00:01:29.000 I encourage you to listen to our sister episode that we posted.

00:01:33.000 Six questions the panel or the January 6th committee will not talk about.

00:01:36.000 But instead, I'm going to talk about something that impacts all of you.

00:01:39.000 We should have prime time hearings about this. 0.54

00:01:41.000 We should have prime time hearings about the fact that Americans are getting poorer despite making good financial decisions.

00:01:51.000 So, one of the moral reasons why inflation is so treacherous, one of the moral reasons why inflation is so bad for a society, is that people's good economic decisions will still get punished.

00:02:05.000 The moral argument for sound money is that you want people who save, people who spend prudently, people who do not live above their lifestyle, to be rewarded for doing that.

00:02:18.000 You see, the West has been built on a principle of delayed gratification.

00:02:24.000 Not every country believes in delayed gratification.

00:02:27.000 Delayed gratification is what built this civilization that we are living through.

00:02:33.000 It means that I am going to work hard today, understand the costs to me and to my time, but tomorrow my children or my grandchildren will be able to enjoy the input, the labor, the risk that I put into a marketplace.

00:02:49.000 Inflation obliterates all of that.

00:02:52.000 So let's just make sure we define our terms.

00:02:54.000 And we've done many shows on inflation.

00:02:56.000 This one will be similar in some sense, but totally different in other ways.

00:03:00.000 So we're going to talk about where inflation is today, what we could do about it.

00:03:05.000 Well, inflation, put simply, is the decline of purchasing power of any given currency over time.

00:03:11.000 It happens when there is more dollar bills than there is value in the economy.

00:03:17.000 Now, for those of us that are conservatives, we do not like centralized power.

00:03:21.000 We do want a small yet strong government.

00:03:24.000 But one thing where I think conservatives have gone wrong over the last 30 or 40 years, and something that I would probably find common cause with libertarians on is monetary policy.

00:03:35.000 My monetary beliefs have changed very little over the last 10 years.

00:03:39.000 There's other things I've changed beliefs on.

00:03:41.000 Of course, everyone's constantly changing.

00:03:42.000 Life is about adaptation.

00:03:44.000 But in fact, I have become more of a monetary hawk over the last 10 years as I realize that central banks are the ones that truly control human behaviors.

00:03:54.000 Now, Austrian economics, from the writings of Murray Rothbard or Ludwig von Mises or F.A. Hayek, I got my start reading the literature from these authors and from these thinkers.

00:04:06.000 Some of what they write about is profound and brilliant.

00:04:08.000 Some of it is, quite honestly, silly and utopian and is never going to happen.

00:04:13.000 But in particular, there is one belief that the Austrian economics, the economists and Austrian economics, I think, gets perfectly.

00:04:21.000 Something that I think deserves our appreciation and our study.

00:04:24.000 Now, this comes to a belief or a school of thought called praxeology, which is essentially the study of human action, which actually was the title of one of Ludwig von Mises' books.

00:04:34.000 One of the arguments of Austrian economics is that interest rates actually determine human behavior.

00:04:41.000 That it's not just some sort of number on a balance sheet.

00:04:44.000 It's not some sort of abstract thing that when you lower interest rates, you're going to get secondary, tertiary, and unlimited amount of other impacts or, let's say, other costs associated that you might not have expected.

00:04:59.000 That interest rates must be taken very seriously.

00:05:02.000 So what isn't it?

00:05:03.000 What is interest rates?

00:05:04.000 Well, interest rate is the price of money.

00:05:06.000 It is the cost that is required to borrow money.

00:05:09.000 So when interest rates go down, people borrow more money.

00:05:12.000 But what also happens is that people are going to engage in reckless economic behavior.

00:05:17.000 When interest rates go down, people are going to buy things they shouldn't.

00:05:20.000 They're going to borrow more than they probably should.

00:05:24.000 They are going to buy boats or second or third homes.

00:05:27.000 When interest rates go down and money is cheap, let the good times flow.

00:05:33.000 However, when interest rates go up, the opposite happens.

00:05:36.000 All of a sudden, the economy starts to tighten.

00:05:38.000 So as interest rates go down, by definition, the money supply is usually typically going to increase.

00:05:45.000 Inflation is the measurement, is how we measure whether or not the amount of money in the economy is correlated with the goods and services that are already there and also going to be produced.

00:05:59.000 Now, inflation is something that is such a silent killer because everyday Americans have very little they can do about it.

00:06:08.000 Now, there's some things you could do to be defensive about it, certain asset classes you can engage in.

00:06:12.000 We'll talk a little bit about that.

00:06:13.000 But inflation is such an overwhelming villain for most people that they feel as if they're disempowered.

00:06:23.000 Now, this is different than other things that are actually happening in America.

00:06:26.000 For example, when violent crime goes up, there is something you could do about it.

00:06:31.000 You can move to a better neighborhood.

00:06:32.000 You could buy a firearm.

00:06:34.000 You could not go out at night.

00:06:35.000 When crime goes up, you're not totally helpless.

00:06:39.000 When inflation goes up, you are largely helpless.

00:06:42.000 Yes, you could buy gold.

00:06:43.000 You could buy silver.

00:06:44.000 You could buy the VIX.

00:06:46.000 You could buy shorting the market and negative ETFs.

00:06:49.000 You could buy asset classes such as land and real estate.

00:06:53.000 You could buy apartment buildings.

00:06:55.000 But let's be honest, someone earning $55,000 a year right now in Phoenix, Arizona, or in Dallas, Texas, or in Atlanta, they're not going to be able to have the liquidity to be able to diversify in the asset classes that are necessary.

00:07:07.000 They're getting poorer every single day.

00:07:10.000 Inflation is a thief.

00:07:12.000 Inflation is a massive wealth transfer between the workers and the asset class owners.

00:07:17.000 If you really want to stick it to the rich, if you really want to tax the rich, the worst thing you could possibly do is engage in an inflationary cycle.

00:07:26.000 In fact, inflation is a gift to the rich.

00:07:29.000 Inflation is a gift to the people at the top of the income ladder because they'll just move their assets quicker to places where they can adjust their rates.

00:07:36.000 For example, apartment buildings.

00:07:38.000 People that own apartment buildings do okay.

00:07:40.000 In fact, some of them do very well in inflation.

00:07:42.000 Why?

00:07:42.000 Well, the value of their asset will go up and they're able to adjust the rates based on inflation.

00:07:48.000 Oh, rent is now $1,800 a month.

00:07:50.000 Oh, rent is now $2,100 a month.

00:07:52.000 Oh, rent is now $2,400 a month.

00:07:54.000 Oh, rent is now $2,700 a month.

00:07:56.000 They're able to go up the ladder of what they charge based on what inflation is.

00:08:03.000 So when you artificially intervene into the economy, you're going to get disruptions.

00:08:10.000 What did the New York Times have to say about this back in August of 2021?

00:08:15.000 179 reasons.

00:08:17.000 You probably don't need a panic about inflation.

00:08:19.000 Inflation is by far the number one issue in America.

00:08:23.000 Every single poll shows that.

00:08:24.000 You talk to working people, you talk to young people, they are getting crushed by these rising prices.

00:08:30.000 So what brought about inflation?

00:08:31.000 Answer, your government.

00:08:34.000 Your government, some Republicans and all Democrats, Republicans agreed with some of these spending bills, but not all of them, decided to artificially intervene with anywhere between $5 to $7 trillion.

00:08:46.000 Now, one of the great complaints I have is the economic illiteracy that plagues the Republican Party and the conservative movement.

00:08:54.000 Milton Friedman said there should be two requirements for a politician, that every politician takes an economic course and that every politician passes the economics course.

00:09:04.000 The lack of economic literacy is destroying the country.

00:09:10.000 Now, some people in leadership understand what they're doing.

00:09:14.000 They want to do it anyway because they want to usher in a great reset and a currency obliteration agenda.

00:09:20.000 So right now, today, inflation, the latest inflation numbers, 8.6%.

00:09:26.000 That is way lower than what it actually is.

00:09:29.000 The real inflation rate in America is probably between 25 to 30%.

00:09:33.000 It's definitely 35% here in Phoenix.

00:09:35.000 It's definitely 35% in Denver.

00:09:37.000 It's definitely 35% in Atlanta.

00:09:39.000 As we've talked about in a previous show, it's actually good the government is lying to us about this because local governments have to adjust their salaries and adjust their benefits based on the national inflation rate, which would bankrupt local governments and local communities.

00:09:54.000 So actually, there's a benefit to the fact the government is so dishonest when it comes to inflation, but don't believe that number.

00:09:59.000 The true inflation rate is 25 to 30%.

00:10:02.000 Why did we do this?

00:10:06.000 Hello, everybody.

00:10:07.000 Charlie Kirk here.

00:10:08.000 Court packing is the real danger to our country.

00:10:11.000 Make no mistake, court packing is a coup.

00:10:13.000 And the usual suspects, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, are working overtime on new radical plans to pack the Supreme Court.

00:10:19.000 Look, if we do not stop them from installing four more justices, they can rig the system in their favor.

00:10:24.000 We know it will be catastrophic for our court, our country, and the American way of life.

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00:11:09.000 Do we have 87, Janet Yellen saying she was wrong?

00:11:13.000 Let's play that.

00:11:14.000 Thank you.

00:11:15.000 I think I was wrong then about the path that inflation would take.

00:11:21.000 As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks that have affected our economy badly that I at the time didn't fully understand.

00:11:41.000 Yeah, there's not much you do understand, Janet Yellen.

00:11:46.000 Janet Yellen has been a lifelong academic.

00:11:50.000 She thinks you can master plan an economy from her perch in Ivory Tower. 0.97

00:11:57.000 She was a member on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors from 1994 to 1997.

00:12:02.000 It's a really interesting thing studying Janet Yellen.

00:12:06.000 Janet Yellen has never had to make payroll for a business. 0.88

00:12:09.000 Janet Yellen has not ever been in the weeds of what it takes to actually take a massive risk with capital overlays.

00:12:16.000 No, this is her biography.

00:12:18.000 It sounds really good, doesn't it?

00:12:20.000 Graduated from Brown University, earned her Ph.D. in economics from Yale, taught as an assistant professor in Harvard.

00:12:27.000 She began working at the Federal Reserve Board as an economist from 77 to 78 before joining the faculty at the London School of Economics.

00:12:35.000 She then became professor emeritus at the Haas School of Business at the University of California, Berkeley.

00:12:41.000 She then became a board member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, chair of the Council of Economic Advisors, executive officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.

00:12:51.000 And then Obama put her as the vice chair of the Federal Reserve.

00:12:55.000 And then eventually, one term, she succeeded Jerome Powell.

00:13:00.000 And now she is the Treasury Secretary of the United States.

00:13:04.000 She's done nothing useful in her entire life.

00:13:08.000 Professor, PhD in economics.

00:13:11.000 Okay, what have you actually done where you understand how the economy works?

00:13:14.000 You ever signed a paycheck for somebody?

00:13:15.000 Seriously.

00:13:16.000 Do you know what it's like to go raise capital to go start a business?

00:13:18.000 No, you don't.

00:13:20.000 Do you know what it's like to actually get in the weeds of having to hire or fire somebody?

00:13:24.000 Professor, board member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.

00:13:29.000 This is part of the problem.

00:13:30.000 She has no idea how the economy actually works.

00:13:34.000 She thinks she knows how macroeconomics works.

00:13:36.000 Obviously, she doesn't.

00:13:37.000 If you missed inflation, you should resign in disgrace.

00:13:40.000 These people have no shame whatsoever missing inflation.

00:13:43.000 You created it.

00:13:46.000 Senator Yellen has been confirmed by the United States Senate on five separate occasions.

00:13:50.000 What does that tell you about our ruling class?

00:13:53.000 For five times, they've gotten it wrong.

00:13:56.000 New York Times, 179 reasons.

00:13:57.000 You probably don't need to panic about inflation.

00:14:00.000 CNBC: inflation is hotter than expected, but looks temporary and likely won't affect the Fed policy.

00:14:05.000 One article after the other in 2021.

00:14:09.000 Why Feds Jerome Powell still thinks high inflation is temporary?

00:14:12.000 Feds Powell says high inflation temporary will wane.

00:14:15.000 What is Jerome Powell's background?

00:14:19.000 Probably a banker.

00:14:22.000 Makes him more qualified, then I have to say, than Janet Yellen.

00:14:26.000 He was the under-tressure, under domestic treasury secretary for domestic finance under George H.W. Bush, was a visiting scholar at the bipartisan policy center, member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.

00:14:40.000 You kind of have another lifelong academic and government bureaucrat.

00:14:44.000 Cut 86.

00:14:46.000 Play tape.

00:14:48.000 8.6, 8.6, a new cycle-high usurping march, which was 8.5.

00:14:55.000 That was the highest since 1981.

00:14:59.000 And they're all like surprised by this?

00:15:01.000 What economic data are they looking at?

00:15:03.000 No one should be surprised by inflation.

00:15:05.000 We've been warning about it since literally two years ago.

00:15:08.000 The only people surprised by inflation are people that are not involved in regular everyday businesses.

00:15:13.000 They have no idea what it actually costs to live in America right now.

00:15:16.000 You want to know why the birth rate is going down?

00:15:18.000 The birth rate is going down because people can't afford children.

00:15:22.000 It takes 57 weeks of work to sustain a family of four in America.

00:15:27.000 You have to go into debt to sustain a family of four, largely because of the policies of our central federalized government.

00:15:35.000 Inflation is a killer.

00:15:37.000 Inflation is a thief, and you did not consent to it.

00:15:40.000 That's the moral issue when it comes to inflation.

00:15:44.000 You did not vote for it.

00:15:45.000 You did not canvass for it.

00:15:46.000 It just gets done by your leaders and you're supposed to take it.

00:15:50.000 It's a massive wealth redistribution scheme between the asset holders and the workers.

00:15:55.000 Every day you work, you are getting poorer.

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00:16:59.000 We are focused on inflation.

00:17:01.000 You should be focused on inflation.

00:17:03.000 We're focused on the southern border as well.

00:17:05.000 You should be focused on these things.

00:17:07.000 But your leaders are not.

00:17:10.000 I don't know if you watched the cable television program last night, the January 6th committee hearings.

00:17:17.000 I watched about three minutes' worth and stopped watching.

00:17:20.000 Everyone has different opinions on how we should respond to this.

00:17:24.000 But someone who has done probably the most significant work in regards to investigative journalism alongside Julie Kelly is Darren Beattie.

00:17:34.000 Darren Beattie has done the tough stuff of going deep into these stories and trying to find out what was the federal government's involvement on January the 6th, if at all.

00:17:43.000 This is a question that everyone should want answered, by the way, regardless of your political affiliation.

00:17:48.000 With us right now is Darren Beattie.

00:17:49.000 Darren, welcome back to the program.

00:17:51.000 Great to be here, Charlie.

00:17:52.000 Thanks for having me.

00:17:53.000 So I'll be honest, my instinct is just to ignore these hearings and to kind of just gloss over it.

00:17:59.000 I don't know if you see that the same way.

00:18:02.000 Maybe you do, maybe you don't.

00:18:04.000 What do you think our approach to this should be?

00:18:08.000 That's an excellent question.

00:18:10.000 And there's really no easy answer to that.

00:18:14.000 I actually talked about this the other day.

00:18:17.000 And my position is essentially that most people should ignore it.

00:18:24.000 Most people should ignore this precisely because a large part of this is simply distracting from things that the regime would rather we not think about and talk about and occupy real estate in our consciousness, largely pertaining to the manifest failure of the Biden regime across a number of dimensions.

00:18:46.000 And so I do think we should be very aware of the diversionary component of all of this and get our priorities in order and understand, look, this is not worth talking about compared to a lot of other things.

00:19:02.000 However.

00:19:03.000 Yeah, continue with the however.

00:19:05.000 No, that's the most, that's what I want to hear.

00:19:07.000 The however is very important.

00:19:10.000 And the however is for the handful of people who are well informed on this issue, I think it's critical to speak out because we're not going to hear anything of importance from the committee, for instance.

00:19:25.000 But I do think that getting to the heart of January 6 is not only explosive, it is really a precondition for reoriented, reorienting our political position in a way that we can win.

00:19:42.000 And the reason for this is it's no secret from Revolver.news' reporting.

00:19:47.000 If people have heard the thesis that the feds were involved in this, that comes from us.

00:19:54.000 The revolvers reporting is the reason that this is part of the national conversation.

00:19:58.000 And so I understand that just to suggest this is shocking and even offensive to people, including a lot of conservatives who don't want to go that far and entertain the possibility that their own government could be that really evil and malicious.

00:20:18.000 And to make the full case would run outside the scope of our time here.

00:20:24.000 But I'd encourage everyone, especially those who are kind of scandalized by the mere suggestion here.

00:20:31.000 As I said on Tucker last night, take the challenge.

00:20:34.000 If you're skeptical, that's fine.

00:20:36.000 If people you know are skeptical, that's fine.

00:20:38.000 Don't take my word for it.

00:20:40.000 Go to revolver.news, read the top story there, and most importantly, watch the video.

00:20:48.000 The videos that we've compiled speak for themselves.

00:20:51.000 And if you read that report and if you've watched the video, there will be no way that you can look me in the eye or look other people in the eye and say there's no federal involvement here.

00:21:05.000 It simply can't be done.

00:21:07.000 And so I think for this reason, focus on that specific component is crucial.

00:21:13.000 And of course, it's no accident.

00:21:15.000 The regime's reaction to the suggestion of federal involvement has been so intense.

00:21:21.000 I've got so much incoming from this, as is Tucker and the other people who have brought this thesis forward to the public.

00:21:30.000 It's the most subversive narrative, and the regime would do anything to shut it up.

00:21:36.000 And that's for a reason, because there's so much at stake here pertaining to January 6th.

00:21:42.000 The story might be boring.

00:21:44.000 It might seem like a nothing burger, but this is a major pretext that our government is using upon which to reorient and reconfigure its entire national security apparatus against the American people to treat people as domestic terrorists simply for being Trump supporters or even for objecting to the regime in a variety of ways.

00:22:08.000 This is the reason we have the ill-fated and now at least temporarily defunct disinformation governance board.

00:22:16.000 It was to address disinformation pertaining to the election because it led to so-called insurrection like January 6th.

00:22:24.000 So there's so much at stake here as far as what the regime is trying to do on the basis of this narrative that right-wing domestic terrorism is the number one national security threat.

00:22:35.000 And I think given the magnitude of the stakes, as much as we'd like to ignore it and much as we'd like to focus on other things that have more immediate relevance to our lives, I think doing so completely, ignoring it completely would be a severe mistake.

00:22:51.000 But the people who should be talking about it are the people who are really informed and prepared to do so.

00:22:58.000 So I think most people on the GOP should probably just move on and not say that.

00:23:02.000 They just talk about inflation.

00:23:03.000 Yeah, and I think this also has a boomerang effect for them.

00:23:08.000 I don't think normal everyday people want to watch this, these hearings, and they can't even afford to drive across town, let alone have to hear from their leaders on this.

00:23:20.000 But, Darren, I want you to build out kind of what you talked about, how this is a potential pretext for other, let's just say, the reorientation of American politics.

00:23:32.000 That if they are able to make this argument successfully, that half the country are indeed domestic terrorists, what does that mean?

00:23:43.000 Well, that means a lot of things.

00:23:45.000 If the number one national security threat to the country is domestic terrorism, and by that, they don't mean BLM. 0.89

00:23:52.000 They don't mean any of these groups that have been burning down cities.

00:23:55.000 No, by domestic terrorism, they mean quote-unquote white supremacists.

00:24:00.000 And by that, they mean normal, everyday people who may have supported Trump, may not even be a big Trump supporter, but maybe you're concerned about the disaster that's going on at our border.

00:24:13.000 The disaster, which, by the way, has been propelled by the Department of Homeland Security.

00:24:19.000 And the Department of Homeland Security set up its disinformation board to address disinformation related, among other things, to immigration.

00:24:29.000 And so people who just have anything critical to say about the regime, in fact, the Department of Homeland Security, there are amazing leaked documents that came out that Josh Hawley and I think Grassley is another senator called attention to.

00:24:46.000 And it said, look, our disinformation governance board is interested in suppressing disinformation related to anti-government narratives.

00:24:56.000 So basically, any critique of the government whatsoever is now tantamount to domestic extremism, domestic terrorism.

00:25:05.000 And among other things, the government is marshaling its national security apparatus to suppress any information pertaining to these things that embarrass them.

00:25:15.000 It's really, it's quite amazing.

00:25:17.000 And this is part of what's at stake here.

00:25:21.000 What's at stake in this narrative?

00:25:23.000 So, Darren, there's some, you know, facts can be pesky things, right?

00:25:27.000 So there are some facts that just kind of stick out like a sore thumb.

00:25:30.000 So if the premise is that we're going to have multiple prime time hearings to try to tell the country what happened on January 6th, I imagine the answer is no to my question, which is, are we going to hear anything about Ray Epps?

00:25:44.000 Who planted the pipe bombs?

00:25:46.000 Why was security help ignored?

00:25:48.000 How many potential federal agents were involved?

00:25:50.000 Can you talk about how actually the more that this story actually becomes central focus, these other questions start to really stick out, and it actually might backfire on them if all of a sudden they want to make this the most important issue in the summer, because they just conveniently ignore all these other fundamentals to the entire narrative.

00:26:11.000 No, it's so true, Charlie.

00:26:13.000 And look, like the most important thing about this committee is that the questions that they're not asking, because there are, as you brought up some of them, there are four or five absolutely dispositive, decisive questions, questions that get to the heart of what really happened about January 6th and questions that anyone, forget about the politics of it, any detective, shall we say,

00:26:38.000 who is objectively interested in understanding how this whole thing happened and what was going on would ask.

00:26:45.000 And, you know, the case of Ray Epps is one of the most egregious ones, and we've done multiple incredibly detailed reports on it, but it's just, it beggars belief.

00:26:54.000 It beggars belief because the people running this investigative show pretend like every grandma standing around the Capitol was some kind of domestic terrorist.

00:27:05.000 You have this individual, Ray Epps, caught on tape multiple times saying, go into the Capitol.

00:27:11.000 You see him conducting essentially that first and decisive breach of the Capitol.

00:27:17.000 And without that decisive breach around 1 p.m. on January 6th, the whole rally could not have turned into the riot.

00:27:26.000 And so it's not just Epps, by the way.

00:27:28.000 You look at the Revolver.news report, there are five or six key individuals that really played a decisive role in allowing the riot, the rally to turn into a riot by removing the barriers and fencing before the speech was done.

00:27:45.000 So when the rallygoers moved to the Capitol, there was no fencing, and so they didn't even know they were entering restricted grounds.

00:27:52.000 So they get into close proximity to the Capitol to people who were holding bullhorns and in a controlled and calm and very professional manner, directing people to move forward.

00:28:03.000 And then when they were close enough, directing them to move into the Capitol, there's one key individual called Scaffold Commander who hasn't even been identified yet.

00:28:14.000 He's not even on the most wanted list.

00:28:16.000 Ray Eps was on the most wanted list briefly.

00:28:18.000 And then when Revolver started talking about federal involvement, he was taken off literally the next day.

00:28:24.000 And so there are all these questions.

00:28:26.000 Another thing, a huge thing, in fact, one of the maybe the most dark, the darkest and most disturbing aspect of this is the pipe bombs.

00:28:35.000 So the timing of the pipe bombs is such that the pipe bombs were discovered just 10 minutes before the initial breach.

00:28:43.000 And just conveniently, a lot of the Capitol police had to go there and they say, oh, it's a diversionary tactic.

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00:29:40.000 A couple of months ago, I had the opportunity to question then DC National Guard commander, General Walker.

00:29:48.000 Now he is the House Sergeant at Arms.

00:29:51.000 I asked General Walker, I said, General, if the National Guard would have been on our nation's Capitol on January 4th, as the intelligence called for, would January 6th have ever happened?

00:30:05.000 And he said no.

00:30:07.000 Congressman there makes an excellent point.

00:30:10.000 And it's a subset of really the more general point, which is how do we account for the fact that the Capitol had basically uniquely poor security on a day that was that politically charged and that anyone with any kind of knowledge of anything would have known that.

00:30:30.000 That in itself, I think, is extremely suspicious.

00:30:33.000 And there are a lot of data points within that general observation that I think are quite damning.

00:30:40.000 The point that I wanted to finish for the pipe bomb, just really quickly, is that it came out that then Vice President-elect Kamala Harris was in the DNC building.

00:30:50.000 And so somehow her Secret Service overlooked this pipe bomb that was outside of the DNC building to allow some random passerby to discover the pipe bombs later at a time that perfectly coincided with the first breach.

00:31:06.000 The Secret Service happens to be overseen by the Department of Homeland Security.

00:31:11.000 And who is the Department of Homeland Security's main stooge in Congress?

00:31:15.000 That is none other than Benny Thompson, the chair of the January 6th Committee.

00:31:20.000 So this is leave that as another interesting question to investigate that the committee won't talk about at all.

00:31:28.000 I don't think we're going to hear much about that.

00:31:29.000 The curious case of the pipe bombs is one that I think is worthy of repeating.

00:31:34.000 I mean, you have potential domestic terrorism against two American political parties that should be taken very seriously.

00:31:40.000 And it's both parties, right?

00:31:42.000 So it's also the Democrat Party.

00:31:44.000 And why have the Democrats not been playing, like not playing the victim, but like they haven't been drumming that up, right?

00:31:51.000 Like they, someone tried, someone tried to bomb the DNC.

00:31:55.000 Like, where is the montage of that?

00:31:59.000 Not only that, but it's only much later, and the DOJ had to amend its charging documents to reflect the latest revelation that the vice president-elect was in the DNC.

00:32:13.000 Think of what the media could have done to blow that up: to say, oh, the insurrectionists almost killed the vice president-elect, but nothing about it because there's so many extremely bizarre questions surrounding it.

00:32:27.000 For instance, how did the Secret Service miss the pipe bomb?

00:32:30.000 And if the pipe bomb, as they say, were diversionary, that would require people to find it.

00:32:36.000 Well, then, how, you know, they were counting on some random passerby to find it, and which someone does, but it happens to be just 10 minutes before the initial breach.

00:32:47.000 And they use that to blame, you know, they can say, okay, the breach happened because we were understaffed because we were addressing this pipe bomb issue.

00:32:55.000 There are just so many weird things surrounding the pipe bomb issue.

00:32:58.000 We can't get into the whole thing.

00:33:00.000 Revolver has covered it very extensively, but I think it deserves further coverage as this could be one of the main keys to unlock the entire sorry and sordid episode.

00:33:12.000 I just, we just want the truth.

00:33:13.000 Who planted the pipe bombs?

00:33:15.000 A potential Timothy McVay situation could have happened at two political parties, and yet we don't talk about it.

00:33:23.000 Darren, we're out of time.

00:33:24.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:33:25.000 Revolver.news.

00:33:26.000 Thank you.

00:33:27.000 Thank you.

00:33:30.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:32.000 Email me your thoughts is always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:34.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:33:36.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 10, 2022

We The People Vs. Primetime Hearings with Darren Beattie

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