The Charlie Kirk Show - What Country Are We Living In?: Live with Riley Gaines at Dream City Christian Church

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00:00:12.000 My conversation with Riley Gaines, live from Dream City Christian Church here in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:00:18.000 We talk on stage about her experiences, and then we take some unscripted questions from the audience.

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00:00:38.000 Enjoy this exclusive conversation with Riley Gaines.

00:00:42.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:42.000 Here we go.

00:00:44.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:45.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:48.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:51.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:54.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:55.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:56.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:05.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:13.000 That's why we are here.

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00:01:27.000 What a great turnout tonight.

00:01:28.000 Welcome to the fall, everybody.

00:01:30.000 This is excellent.

00:01:32.000 We have a very special guest tonight, so I'm not going to spend too much time introducing.

00:01:37.000 But first, I just want to say it is so encouraging and heartwarming to see this event grow and grow and grow.

00:01:44.000 We've taken this all across the country.

00:01:46.000 We've done this in Virginia.

00:01:48.000 We've done Freedom Night in America in Albuquerque.

00:01:51.000 We now have an amazing community of local pastors that we meet with before these events where we are growing the movement to talk about the church taking a stand for biblical values, taking a stand against tyranny.

00:02:08.000 I have a couple verses I want to share, but I'm going to just get right to the thing that's on my heart.

00:02:15.000 And I think we can all agree.

00:02:17.000 And Luke, I hope I'm not talking out of turn.

00:02:19.000 If they try to lock us down again, we are not going to comply with the government.

00:02:25.000 We're not going to do the masks.

00:02:27.000 We're not going to shut down the churches.

00:02:29.000 We are not going to comply.

00:02:31.000 Period.

00:02:33.000 Okay, I got that off my chest.

00:02:34.000 Am I good to say that, Luke?

00:02:36.000 Say it again.

00:02:37.000 Dream City Church will not comply if they try to turn, shut down this church.

00:02:43.000 I like, right?

00:02:58.000 And if this is not your church home, then this probably should become your church home.

00:03:02.000 Because how many churches in the valley would say that boldly and clearly?

00:03:07.000 I love the Barnetts.

00:03:08.000 You guys are led so well here.

00:03:10.000 So there's this movement.

00:03:13.000 I've been doing this for 11 years, speaking on college campuses.

00:03:17.000 I've given over 2,000 speeches in the last 11 years, literally in every corner of the country.

00:03:24.000 And about five or six years ago, you started to see this movement that at first seemed on the fringes.

00:03:29.000 And it wasn't anything necessarily new.

00:03:31.000 Many of you remember growing up, this idea of men cross-dressing.

00:03:36.000 We used to call it transvestite, right? 0.85

00:03:38.000 It was kind of on the fringes.

00:03:40.000 It wasn't really something we talked about a lot.

00:03:43.000 But as Ernest Hemingway famously wrote, things happen gradually and then suddenly.

00:03:49.000 It's like we woke up in a different country.

00:03:52.000 And one of the themes that we talk about here a lot is that you are living through a cultural revolution.

00:03:59.000 The same that Mao did in China, where they're trying to actually refound the country.

00:04:05.000 They look at themselves as Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Jay, and George Washington. 0.59

00:04:11.000 They're trying to refound the country into something new, something weird, something not ordinary, something different.

00:04:19.000 And it's hard to always notice that when you're living through it, right?

00:04:22.000 Sometimes you don't notice it because it's so confusing.

00:04:25.000 And I'm sure some of you sometimes look at your TV and say, what country am I living in?

00:04:32.000 Not, I mean, it's 600 years in federal prison for a former president, all of that. 1.00

00:04:37.000 But the one issue I think that is so against our senses, so against the natural law, and dare I say a throbbing middle finger to God is the transgender thing happening in America right now. 0.99

00:04:52.000 Now, some of you, and I was guilty of this for years. 1.00

00:04:58.000 I used to believe in this live and let live thing.

00:05:01.000 I had strong beliefs of what God's design was, but I said, hey, if it's not bothering me, then I'm not going to talk much about it.

00:05:08.000 And I'm sure some of you probably said something similar to that.

00:05:11.000 But it was never about that.

00:05:13.000 It was not about live and let live.

00:05:14.000 It was live and let us rule.

00:05:17.000 And what first went from, well, we have to tolerate.

00:05:24.000 Okay.

00:05:25.000 Then you must accept.

00:05:27.000 Okay.

00:05:29.000 Then you must celebrate.

00:05:31.000 It's like, I don't know if I'm comfortable with that.

00:05:33.000 And then you must participate.

00:05:36.000 And if you can't participate, your kids must participate.

00:05:40.000 And this used to be just kind of on the fringes.

00:05:42.000 And, you know, those of us that do this for a living, we started to speak out more and more, especially three or four years ago.

00:05:47.000 But I was told by the people in charge, oh, this is not, you know, it's just a little thing here, a little thing there.

00:05:53.000 And the next thing you know, a story that shocked the world, those of us that pay attention, was all of a sudden when we saw a biological man win an NCAA championship in female athletics and swimming.

00:06:06.000 And the people that told us that this was on the fringes, this was isolated, you see an institution destroyed in front of our very eyes. 0.53

00:06:14.000 The very same people, by the way, that always are lecturing us about war on women, hashtag me too, were perfectly fine with a deranged neurotic man becoming an NCAA champion.

00:06:28.000 But it didn't stop there.

00:06:29.000 We started to see this in schools, in curriculum, pronoun usage. 0.66

00:06:33.000 And I do not exaggerate to say this is now the new state-run religion of the United States federal government, where they have two LGBTQ alphabet mafia flags at the White House, where they have trans people taking off their clothes, not an exaggeration on the White House lawn, where the CDC, the Center for Disease Control, comes out and says that biological men can give birth and lactate if they take the right drugs.

00:06:59.000 In fact, the Biden regime says they're birthing people. 0.61

00:07:01.000 They are not women. 0.98

00:07:03.000 In fact, if you ever want to just see somebody short circuit, we have to thank the legendary Matt Walsh. 0.62

00:07:09.000 Who I will get here one night.

00:07:11.000 I will.

00:07:11.000 I'll get that done.

00:07:12.000 We will.

00:07:13.000 I will.

00:07:14.000 And I'm not one to cheaply give out comments, but he has done heroes' work.

00:07:19.000 He's really special.

00:07:22.000 Where he just asks the simple question that just breaks the matrix of the trans lobby.

00:07:27.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:07:29.000 Well, tonight, we have a woman speaking to us.

00:07:36.000 And it's actually the first woman ever at Freedom Night in America.

00:07:41.000 That's not intentional, it just so happened this way.

00:07:44.000 And this young lady, she had a national championship robbed from her. 1.00

00:07:50.000 She's been lied about.

00:07:52.000 She has been held hostage by left-wing activists at Turning Point USA campus events.

00:07:57.000 And she's now one of the most important cultural warriors and figures on the landscape right now, arguing for really simple stuff.

00:08:05.000 Stuff that people would have rolled their eyes 10 years ago and said, Okay, why are you saying this?

00:08:10.000 Now it's considered radical.

00:08:10.000 It's normal.

00:08:12.000 We are in a church, and so it's important to remember: Deuteronomy 22:5, a woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak. 0.93

00:08:22.000 For whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God.

00:08:30.000 You hear that, William Thomas? 0.78

00:08:31.000 You're an abomination to God.

00:08:34.000 So God created in his own image in the image of God. 0.98

00:08:37.000 He created a male and female.

00:08:38.000 He created them. 0.99

00:08:39.000 Distinctions keep us free.

00:08:40.000 Men and women are not the same, and that's a beautiful thing. 1.00

00:08:43.000 And tonight, we have one of the most powerful young women in America fighting the transgender mafia. 1.00

00:08:50.000 Join me in welcoming Riley Gaines, everybody. 1.00

00:09:13.000 Riley, welcome to Phoenix, Arizona.

00:09:16.000 I just want to start off by saying I might be the first woman to participate in this event, but is it just as easy as saying, identify as a man?

00:09:27.000 Well, apparently, today you can identify for whatever you want to identify.

00:09:32.000 I guess, Riley, my first question is: What is a woman? 0.97

00:09:35.000 This is an easy answer.

00:09:37.000 It really has been common sense in the 250 years our country has been established.

00:09:41.000 We've never struggled, and of course, much longer than that.

00:09:44.000 A woman is an adult human female.

00:09:47.000 And then we can further define female as someone who has the capabilities to produce egg or ova. 0.99

00:09:56.000 Just so we understand, you're applauding like a biological textbook definition.

00:10:04.000 Country's in a real sad spot, everybody.

00:10:06.000 Yeah! 1.00

00:10:08.000 XY chromosomes. 0.98

00:10:10.000 Never thought I'd see it. 0.99

00:10:11.000 I gotta tell you.

00:10:12.000 Riley, let's take a step back.

00:10:13.000 Tell your story.

00:10:14.000 Here you are, University of Kentucky, ambitious young swimmer, minding your own business, wanting to be a national champion, and somehow now you've been thrust into one of the most consequential, high-stakes culture wars in American history.

00:10:27.000 Tell us your story.

00:10:28.000 I'll take you back even further than that because I think it's important people understand the work that you put in your whole life to get to that point.

00:10:36.000 I started swimming when I was four, and I graduated when I was 22.

00:10:39.000 So this means I spent 18 years of my life.

00:10:44.000 It's impossible to put into words the amount of time and the sacrifices and the dedication that it takes.

00:10:50.000 In college, we were practicing six hours in the water every single day, swimming 10 miles every day.

00:10:56.000 Three of those hours were before 8 a.m.

00:10:59.000 So you practice from 5 a.m. to 8 a.m.

00:11:01.000 You go to class, you come back, you practice from 1:30 to 4:30. 0.96

00:11:05.000 We ate dinner at old people time at 4:45. 0.75

00:11:08.000 We were starving.

00:11:11.000 Did your homework, you iced your shoulders, went to bed, did it all again the next day.

00:11:16.000 And so, my college experience was nothing short of crazy, anyways.

00:11:21.000 Freshman year, I had accomplished some pretty good things, but I was acclimating, adjusting, and so I knew I could do more my sophomore year.

00:11:30.000 So, sophomore year rolls around.

00:11:32.000 March of 2020 is when we were supposed to leave for our national championships, which is the fastest meat in the world.

00:11:38.000 It's the meat you work all year for.

00:11:41.000 And about three days before we were supposed to leave, our coaches pull us out of the water and say, If you live in the dorm rooms, pack your stuff up.

00:11:47.000 You have to leave tonight.

00:11:49.000 And we never got to go home.

00:11:51.000 That was not a thing we ever did.

00:11:53.000 We were there all summer.

00:11:54.000 You were there over Christmas over Thanksgiving.

00:11:56.000 You literally never got to leave.

00:11:58.000 And so everything was shut down.

00:12:00.000 And so I went home.

00:12:02.000 Even in Tennessee, I can't imagine places like California.

00:12:05.000 There were no pools open.

00:12:06.000 There were no gyms open.

00:12:07.000 And so I had to swim in the lake every single day, put a wetsuit on and swim aimlessly.

00:12:14.000 Came back junior year eventually.

00:12:16.000 And I ended up finishing seventh in the country, which I was pretty proud of.

00:12:20.000 You know, you're top eight, you're an all-American.

00:12:22.000 But it was right then and there that I placed seventh that I knew my senior year, I wanted to become a national champion, which would, of course, mean becoming the fastest female in the country in my respective event.

00:12:34.000 And so senior year starts up, and I'm right on pace to achieve that goal.

00:12:45.000 About midway through my senior season, I'm ranked third in the country, trailing a few one-hundredths of a second behind the girl who's in second, who I knew very well, because like in most sports, you're top-tier athletes, you know of each other, regardless of where you're competing, because you've grown up competing against each other.

00:13:00.000 And so I knew this girl in second very well.

00:13:03.000 But this person who was leading the country was a name I had never heard of.

00:13:10.000 And this is, of course, the first time I became aware of a swimmer named Leah Thomas.

00:13:14.000 And so there was a lot of red flags at the time.

00:13:17.000 This was a senior.

00:13:18.000 They were from the University of Pennsylvania, which is not a school that historically produces fast swimmers.

00:13:24.000 They were leading the country by body links and the 100 freestyle and all of the freestyle events in between until the mile.

00:13:32.000 And if you think about this, 100 is a sprint, and a mile is, of course, long distance.

00:13:38.000 And so, for those of you who don't understand swimming, think about this in terms of your Olympic runners.

00:13:43.000 You don't have your best 200-meter runner be your best marathon runner, but that's what we were seeing in this person.

00:13:50.000 And so I didn't understand it.

00:13:51.000 I'm looking up this name on this database called USA Swimming, where if you were to look up Riley Gaines, you'd see my time progression from when I was eight years old.

00:13:59.000 So I'm looking up this name, Leah Thomas.

00:14:02.000 There's no history of this person.

00:14:04.000 And I continued to head scratch until an article came out disclosing that Leah Thomas was formerly Will Thomas and swam three years on the men's team at University of Pennsylvania before deciding to switch to the women's team.

00:14:18.000 And when I read this, I remember, of course, I felt so shocked, but really I felt a sense of relief because I then went to look up who Will Thomas was on that same database.

00:14:30.000 And I saw that this was a mediocre man at best, ranking 462nd the year prior when competing against the men.

00:14:39.000 But that's really why I say I felt relieved because I thought the NCAA would see it, how I saw it, and how my parents saw it, and my teammates and my coaches, and how anyone with any amount of brain activity would probably comprehend this.

00:14:59.000 You're clapping too soon because the NCAA did not see it that way.

00:15:03.000 They saw absolutely nothing wrong with it.

00:15:04.000 And so they announced that Thomas's swimming with the women was a non-negotiable.

00:15:10.000 That first day of competition, I watched on the side of the pool as Thomas swam to a national title.

00:15:17.000 Guys, these weren't scrubs.

00:15:19.000 These are Olympians Thomas was beating.

00:15:22.000 These are American record holders, the most impressive female swimmers this world has ever seen, again by body lengths, which is significant in swimming.

00:15:31.000 So that was the first day.

00:15:32.000 And then the second day was a 200-freestyle, which is the event that Thomas and I raced in.

00:15:38.000 And so we swam prelims.

00:15:39.000 We both qualified top eight.

00:15:41.000 We came back that evening for finals.

00:15:43.000 We dove in the water.

00:15:44.000 We raced.

00:15:45.000 We touched the wall.

00:15:46.000 And almost impossibly enough, we had tied, meaning we went the exact same time down to the hundredth of a second, which is pretty rare when you're racing for a minute and 40 seconds and not even one 100th separated us, which shows me that God has his hand on this.

00:16:06.000 And so I get out of the water.

00:16:10.000 And let me again reiterate, I of course knew all season what was happening was wrong.

00:16:14.000 We all did.

00:16:15.000 We talked amongst ourselves.

00:16:17.000 We really whispered amongst ourselves.

00:16:19.000 We knew it was wrong.

00:16:21.000 But what really thrusted me over the edge, after we raced, we went behind the awards podium where typically you're handed your little $5 production trophy and you stand on the podium and you're named an all-American.

00:16:34.000 And so we go back there.

00:16:36.000 And the official looks at both Thomas and myself, Thomas, who's 6'4, by the way.

00:16:41.000 Wikipedia will tell you 6'1.

00:16:43.000 And Wikipedia is lying.

00:16:46.000 This official looks at both Thomas and myself and says, great job.

00:16:50.000 But you guys tied.

00:16:52.000 And we only have one trophy.

00:16:53.000 So sorry, Riley, we're giving this trophy to Leah.

00:16:57.000 Great job, though.

00:17:00.000 And I remember just this feeling of, I mean, my heart rate was still high.

00:17:04.000 My adrenaline was high.

00:17:06.000 I was so, I felt so belittled.

00:17:09.000 I felt so betrayed.

00:17:10.000 And I asked the question that no one dared ask all season.

00:17:15.000 And I said, why?

00:17:17.000 I know we tied.

00:17:19.000 I know we don't necessarily account for ties, but why are you adamant on giving this trophy to a man in the women's 200 freestyle?

00:17:34.000 And the official, they didn't give him a script of what to say when this happens.

00:17:39.000 And so he actually appreciated his honesty.

00:17:42.000 And I watched as his face sunk in.

00:17:44.000 He didn't even believe what he was saying.

00:17:47.000 His eyes looked saddened when he told me, well, Riley, we've been advised when pictures are being taken.

00:17:54.000 Leah has to have the trophy. 0.99

00:17:56.000 Again, you can pose with this one, but you give yours back.

00:18:00.000 Leah takes the trophy home.

00:18:02.000 Again, end of story.

00:18:03.000 There's nothing we can do.

00:18:05.000 And again, that's what really pushed me over the edge.

00:18:07.000 When they reduced everything that we, and when I say we, I mean every girl on that pool deck.

00:18:14.000 Everything that we had worked our entire lives for, they reduced that down to a photo op to validate the feelings and the identity of a male at the expense of our own.

00:18:24.000 Not to mention the locker room, not to mention the silencing and all the other different factors that went into this.

00:18:30.000 That's when I knew that I really, up until this point, truthfully, I cowered.

00:18:35.000 I waited for someone else to.

00:18:36.000 I thought surely someone else would.

00:18:38.000 And when I say someone else, I mean a coach.

00:18:41.000 I thought surely someone with political power.

00:18:44.000 I thought surely someone's dad would come down there and yank this man out of our locker room.

00:18:48.000 I thought surely someone who was supposed to be protecting us would protect us.

00:18:53.000 And I remember distinctly, I'm standing on the podium holding this trophy.

00:18:57.000 I know I have to give back.

00:18:59.000 And it hit me.

00:19:01.000 This realization that if we as women, really we as female athletes, if we weren't willing to stick up for ourselves, how could we expect someone else to stick up for us?

00:19:11.000 We're standing on this podium applauding and smiling and we want some hero to step in and save us.

00:19:18.000 No, this has to come from us.

00:19:20.000 And so that's kind of my journey, shall we say.

00:19:24.000 I graduated with my degree in human health sciences and health law.

00:19:27.000 I'd already accepted my seat into dental school and put my deposit down.

00:19:32.000 I thought I was going to do endodontics, which is root canals.

00:19:34.000 And almost weirdly enough, I think this is more painful.

00:19:38.000 Here we are.

00:19:47.000 So, Riley, I just want to talk about a couple details there. 0.98

00:19:51.000 So, Thomas, the biological man, the cheater, he's a cheater. 0.99

00:19:58.000 He's also a freak. 0.97

00:20:00.000 He exposed himself to you and other young ladies, which is a crime. 0.82

00:20:05.000 Should have been arrested.

00:20:06.000 He should be in prison. 1.00

00:20:07.000 He's a pervert. 1.00

00:20:08.000 Tell us about it. 1.00

00:20:11.000 We weren't forewarned we would be sharing a locker room.

00:20:14.000 That was never made aware to us.

00:20:17.000 That was never an arrangement that we knew about.

00:20:20.000 The only time we became aware that we would be undressing inches away from a six-foot-four man who's fully intact with an exposing male genitalia was when we were inches away from a six-foot-four man who was fully intact with an exposing male genitalia.

00:20:39.000 And if we had to see it, you guys at least have to hear about it.

00:20:46.000 Again, it was just feelings of, first of all, let me set the scene of a swimming locker room because it's not a place of modesty. 0.53

00:20:55.000 These suits that you put on, your racing suit, it's skin-tied.

00:20:59.000 It takes about 15 minutes at least to put these suits on. 0.99

00:21:02.000 15 minutes of poking and prodding and tucking.

00:21:06.000 I probably shouldn't say tucking, not the target kind of tucking.

00:21:11.000 I mean, like your nail beds are bleeding by the end of this, right?

00:21:16.000 And so it's not a place of modesty.

00:21:19.000 But it's also a place of buzzing and chatter.

00:21:22.000 This is the one meet each year you get to see your friends from all around the country.

00:21:25.000 And so it's a loud environment.

00:21:27.000 And so I remember I had my back turn.

00:21:30.000 Again, lots of noise, and all of a sudden it gets dead silent.

00:21:33.000 I'm like, hmm, that's weird.

00:21:34.000 And I turn around and I look up.

00:21:37.000 And again, there's a man undressing out of his women's swimsuit.

00:21:42.000 And it was just, of course, it's awkward.

00:21:45.000 It's embarrassing.

00:21:46.000 It's uncomfortable.

00:21:48.000 But I think the best way to describe this without even being overdramatic is that it was traumatizing.

00:21:56.000 And not even really just traumatizing necessarily because of what we had to see.

00:22:00.000 But for me personally, it was traumatizing to know just how easy it was for these people and these authority figures to totally dismiss our rights to privacy.

00:22:12.000 And so I immediately left the locker room and went up to one of the officials on the pool deck and I said, you know, look, I know the guidelines that allowed Thomas at the meet, which was a mere 12 months of HRT, which is hormone replacement therapy, which there's no amount of HRT that would make a man and woman comparable, but I can promise you 12 months is nothing.

00:22:36.000 I know the guidelines for the meet, but what are the guidelines that allowed a man into our locker room?

00:22:41.000 And so nonchalantly, this official looks at me and says, oh, well, we actually got around this by making the locker rooms unisex.

00:22:49.000 And the first thing that came to my mind, okay, unisex, you realize by admitting you change the rules, you're admitting Thomas isn't a woman, right?

00:23:00.000 You realize that, right?

00:23:05.000 And secondly, unisex.

00:23:07.000 So any man, any coach, any parent, any official, any pervert who wanted to would have had full access to our changing area and bare minimum, we weren't even told about it.

00:23:20.000 It was the most violating experience.

00:23:23.000 And there's one more part about this meet that naturally the media has done a really terrible job of covering.

00:23:30.000 At the same meet where we had Thomas, who is of course a male identifying as a woman, we had another trans athlete who's a female identifying as a man.

00:23:42.000 We were told we had to use he him pronouns referring to this individual.

00:23:46.000 Formerly Izzy, now goes by the name of Isaac, swam only in a speedo.

00:23:52.000 So imagine this: it's the finals of the 100 freestyle.

00:23:56.000 You have a woman in a speedo and a man with a bulge in a women's swimsuit racing next to each other.

00:24:06.000 You guys are laughing, but that's literally what we saw.

00:24:08.000 I mean, it was like the Twilight Zone.

00:24:11.000 And so Izzy now goes by the name of Isaac, ended up finishing fifth in the country in the 100 freestyle, which again is a huge honor.

00:24:19.000 But if we were really basing this off gender identity, why was Izzy now Isaac competing with the women?

00:24:28.000 And I can answer this question.

00:24:31.000 It's because Izzy, now Isaac, would never and will never be able to compete at that same level against the men.

00:24:38.000 But now she is. 0.75

00:24:41.000 Finishes dead last every single time.

00:24:44.000 As a top five in the country female, the one meet I watched of hers this year, she went to Yale also.

00:24:52.000 What's up with these Ivy Leagues?

00:24:53.000 I thought these were supposed to be places of higher education.

00:24:58.000 The one meet I watched of hers this year, the only male swimmer she beat was a male swimmer with one arm.

00:25:06.000 And I don't even say that to be funny.

00:25:09.000 I say that to perfectly highlight what's at jeopardy and who is at stake here.

00:25:17.000 So Riley, you were traumatized by the pervert, and I had you on the show, and we made a lot of headlines, Riley Gaines, and I, because I had her on the podcast.

00:25:26.000 I get a little fired up.

00:25:29.000 Kind of have a reputation.

00:25:33.000 And I asked the question, I'll ask it again, which is in the 1950s, the men would have arrived, then it would have been taken care of.

00:25:40.000 And, you know, the media lost their mind when I said that.

00:25:42.000 So I said it again and again and again, I re-emphasized it.

00:25:46.000 And so, but, Riley, to just say it more simply, it must have driven you and your family because here's this obvious injustice.

00:25:56.000 You had something stolen from you.

00:25:58.000 It's an act of theft.

00:26:00.000 No one stands up and you just have to act as if this is normal.

00:26:04.000 I mean, just talk about how many people allowed evil to happen.

00:26:11.000 This was not just a single person.

00:26:14.000 We're talking about the University of Kentucky, University of Pennsylvania, the NCAA.

00:26:19.000 We're talking about political figures.

00:26:21.000 What I'm getting at, Riley, is this was basically a conspiracy of silence.

00:26:26.000 We were failed by so many, making us the collateral damage in the process.

00:26:33.000 And yeah, make no mistake, it's not just women's sports. 1.00

00:26:36.000 It's academia, it's corporate America, it is the churches.

00:26:40.000 There are so many institutions and places where we're seeing these cultural issues just grab us by the throat, which is a pretty chilling thought, to be totally honest, which I know it's kind of grim to say that.

00:26:54.000 But really, I say it's grim.

00:26:57.000 It's not grim because we know who wins, but it is a grim thought to think about.

00:27:03.000 But I'll talk about the emotional blackmail that we as athletes went through and what kept us silent for so long.

00:27:11.000 Because as you mentioned, we all knew this was wrong.

00:27:15.000 Talking amongst ourselves, and as I said, whispering amongst ourselves, we knew it was wrong.

00:27:21.000 But we were told you can't take a stance because your school has taken your stance for you.

00:27:27.000 We were told you will never get a job.

00:27:30.000 You will never get into grad school.

00:27:32.000 You'll lose your friends.

00:27:33.000 You'll lose your scholarship and your playing time.

00:27:35.000 This will follow you forever.

00:27:37.000 You'll be labeled to transphobe anytime you look up your name if you speak out.

00:27:40.000 And you don't want that.

00:27:42.000 When Thomas's teammates sent an email to their administration, 16 of them, plus their parents, signed on to this email expressing their discomfort in the locker room, their university responded back with, and I swear I have a screenshot of it.

00:27:57.000 If you feel uncomfortable seeing male genitalia, here are some counseling resources that you need to seek.

00:28:04.000 They were forced every week to go to mandatory LGBTQ education meetings to learn about how just by being cisgender, they were oppressing Leah Thomas.

00:28:13.000 They told us that if we did speak out and any harm whatsoever came toward Thomas's way, whether that's physical, mental, emotional, through social media, whatever that harm looked like, then we were solely responsible. 0.55

00:28:29.000 And we would be responsible for a potential death, making you a murderer.

00:28:33.000 And you don't want that, do you?

00:28:35.000 You don't want to have blood on your hands.

00:28:38.000 So I suggest you be quiet and listen to those who know what's best.

00:28:46.000 But make no mistake, again, it's not just the athletes who are silence, it's the coaches.

00:28:52.000 It's the parents who work these corporate jobs who are terrified of defending their own daughters because they feel threatened that they might potentially lose their job.

00:29:03.000 These coaches, I was nominated for NCAA Woman of the Year after this, which is the most prestigious honor.

00:29:15.000 It's the most prestigious honor for collegiate female athletes because it encompasses more than just your athletic achievement.

00:29:22.000 Where I had accomplished incredible things.

00:29:24.000 I'm a 12-time All-American.

00:29:26.000 I'm a five-time SEC champion.

00:29:28.000 I'm actually the SEC record holder in the 200 butterfly, which means I have like really big, manly shoulders.

00:29:34.000 Olympic trials, all those things.

00:29:36.000 And so athletically, I had achieved some great things.

00:29:40.000 But just as much emphasis as I put on my athletics, I put on my academics, where I was also the SEC Scholar Athlete of the Year.

00:29:47.000 I had scored in the top percentile of the dental admissions test to get into dental school.

00:29:53.000 Graduated with very high honors, but also my service, which is something I feel very passionately about.

00:29:59.000 Even still, I'm the Special Olympics swim team coach for Tennessee.

00:30:04.000 I was the SEC Community Service Leader of the Year.

00:30:08.000 And so, all that to say, this award meant a lot to me when I was nominated.

00:30:12.000 Each university gets one nominee.

00:30:13.000 And so at the University of Kentucky, we had the number one WNBA draft pick and Abby Steiner, who's breaking world records in track and field, and a national championship volleyball team and a national championship rifle team. 0.74

00:30:24.000 But they chose me.

00:30:26.000 And so I was so humbled by this until a full list of NCAA women of the year was released.

00:30:36.000 And it was not exclusive to just women because Leah Thomas was the University of Pennsylvania's nominee. 0.90

00:30:42.000 And so when I found this out, first of all, the award was totally devalued and meaningless to me. 0.99

00:30:49.000 I didn't even want the stupid thing anymore. 0.98

00:30:50.000 But the NCAA was having a big conference where they were going to announce their winner. 0.99

00:30:55.000 So I thought, what better place to put myself in front of these people than here?

00:31:01.000 I had tried sending letter after letter and email after email, no response.

00:31:06.000 So I figured I'll go there and I'll hand to hand them a legal demand letter expressing that if they don't stop discriminating on the basis of sex, there will be legal action, which let me inform you they haven't.

00:31:18.000 Just yesterday, in cycling in the NCAA, there was a man who won this honor, stole this honor.

00:31:30.000 I handed them a legal demand letter, but they also had this big convention hall where all the athletic directors would walk around and companies and organizations could buy a booth.

00:31:40.000 And so I figured, I'll buy a booth.

00:31:44.000 And so I applied with my name, Riley Gaines.

00:31:46.000 I'd been outspoken at this point.

00:31:48.000 Denied.

00:31:50.000 I'm like, that's weird.

00:31:51.000 I'm trying to give you $2,000.

00:31:53.000 I applied again, denied.

00:31:55.000 Came up with an alias and applied and they were like, of course we'll take your money.

00:31:59.000 So I get into this convention center and I have these little bracelets made talking about Title IX and pamphlets.

00:32:07.000 And every single athletic director who walked by, I shared what we went through.

00:32:11.000 And I told them about the locker room.

00:32:13.000 And I told them about the silencing.

00:32:15.000 And I told them about the unfair competition.

00:32:17.000 And every single one of them, every single one, said, thank you for doing what you're doing.

00:32:23.000 Keep going.

00:32:25.000 And at first, you know, the first 60 or so, I was like, this is great.

00:32:28.000 You know, we're garnering support.

00:32:29.000 This is huge.

00:32:31.000 But then as it continued, I began to feel so frustrated.

00:32:35.000 If we're all on the same page, where's the discrepancy?

00:32:39.000 And so I began asking, you know, that's great.

00:32:41.000 You say you support this, but would you put your name to it?

00:32:44.000 Oh, no.

00:32:46.000 You see, we really can't have lawsuits.

00:32:49.000 You know, I'm the breadwinner for my family, and I really can't risk losing my job and very quickly turn and alleviate themselves from the situation entirely.

00:32:57.000 Even the president of the NCAA, who publicly released a statement in the days following that national championships, and I remember it word for word because it's so funny.

00:33:09.000 He says, I unequivocally stand in my decision to allow Leah Thomas to swim with the women because it's based in evolving science.

00:33:16.000 That's what he says publicly.

00:33:19.000 But privately, at this same conference, I see him and I'm like, I'm not letting you get away.

00:33:28.000 And so I go up to him and he says, keep going.

00:33:31.000 Keep fighting.

00:33:32.000 Thank you for doing what you're doing.

00:33:34.000 But the irony of him saying that as if he's not the one we're fighting.

00:33:39.000 So all of that to say, the people who are enforcing this don't even believe it.

00:33:46.000 How could someone believe this? 0.99

00:33:49.000 They're cowards, they're spineless, and they have no backbone. 1.00

00:33:52.000 Well, and that's exactly right. 1.00

00:33:58.000 In a minute, Riley, we're going to do questions.

00:34:00.000 There's two things I want to cover, though.

00:34:02.000 The first thing I want to mention on that, though, this is why I call them a mafia.

00:34:06.000 It is an alphabet mafia.

00:34:09.000 They extort. 0.98

00:34:11.000 They blackmail.

00:34:12.000 They threaten.

00:34:13.000 I'm a big fan of the movie Godfather.

00:34:15.000 Anybody else, Godfather?

00:34:17.000 You wake up with the horse's head in your bed.

00:34:19.000 It's not a joke.

00:34:21.000 You wake up with a rainbow flag on your mailbox. 1.00

00:34:24.000 You're marked for extermination. 0.94

00:34:26.000 These people are zealots. 1.00

00:34:29.000 They'll hunt your family down.

00:34:30.000 I'm not joking. 0.99

00:34:32.000 I have full-time security because the trans zealots want to murder me. 0.99

00:34:36.000 Right, Riley? 0.93

00:34:38.000 They took her hostage at a turning point event.

00:34:40.000 These are not peaceful people.

00:34:41.000 These are not polite people. 0.96

00:34:43.000 A lot of them are pharmaceutically deranged. 0.94

00:34:46.000 Okay? 0.95

00:34:47.000 They're mentally disturbed people, and we give them these unbelievably powerful pharmacological compounds, which, by the way, they go on to shoot up schools like in Nashville or attempt to shoot them up in Colorado. 0.92

00:34:57.000 By the way, where's the trans manifesto in Nashville of the shooter that killed a bunch of young Christian kids? 0.85

00:35:03.000 Where'd that manifesto go?

00:35:04.000 It's weird how that disappeared.

00:35:06.000 These people are zealots.

00:35:08.000 They're not live and let live. 1.00

00:35:11.000 They're mentally disturbed people that want to murder many of us. 0.99

00:35:15.000 Okay? 0.99

00:35:17.000 And we act as if this is some sort of a debate, like, oh, we can win them over.

00:35:22.000 And we must prevent them from being able to participate in these athletics, from going into locker rooms, and stop cowering to the mafia.

00:35:32.000 Stop giving these terrorists what they want.

00:35:35.000 They're holding our entire country hostage.

00:35:39.000 Okay, so Riley, two things.

00:35:41.000 Number one, talk about how this is your story, the accusation or the criticism that some of these people would say, oh, that's bad, but it's just isolated.

00:35:49.000 But, Riley, weightlifting in Canada, track championships in Connecticut.

00:35:54.000 I hope, and Riley will do a much better job than I am riffing.

00:35:57.000 This is widespread in sports of all ages, all different athletics, Riley Gaines.

00:36:04.000 To believe the narrative that it's a non-issue and that it's not happening, just as you mentioned in your opening, that's how we got here, is because we believed that for too long.

00:36:16.000 That could not be further from the truth.

00:36:19.000 It's happening in every sport, every state, every level, every division.

00:36:23.000 And I know this because I get the messages.

00:36:27.000 I get the messages from the young girls who are dealing with this.

00:36:30.000 They're in sixth grade.

00:36:31.000 They're playing basketball, yet they have boys on their middle school basketball team.

00:36:36.000 They don't know what to do.

00:36:38.000 I get the messages from the parents who literally will call me crying watching their daughters get obliterated in their sport, knowing their daughter is being exploited in a locker room.

00:36:48.000 I get the calls from the coaches who don't know what to do, who don't know how to defend their athletes.

00:36:56.000 I get them all the time, daily, daily.

00:37:00.000 And it would break your all's heart if you read these messages, just like it does mine, which is why I feel so passionately about fighting for this.

00:37:09.000 Because again, I see what's at stake if we don't.

00:37:13.000 For too long, we've been kept in the dark, and for too long, we didn't have someone to defend us, to really act as a megaphone for us.

00:37:23.000 I could list a hundred examples, seriously, off the top of my head right now.

00:37:30.000 I won't bore you.

00:37:32.000 I promise you, they're there.

00:37:34.000 It's happening constantly.

00:37:37.000 And to believe the lie that I see all the time, I travel state to state, and I testify on behalf of these fairness and women's sports bills being put forward.

00:37:46.000 And that's the argument every time.

00:37:48.000 Oh, we're just Nebraska.

00:37:50.000 We only have four trans athletes in this state.

00:37:53.000 No, that's a lie.

00:37:54.000 You have four recorded trans athletes.

00:37:56.000 Same thing with the NCAA.

00:37:58.000 They say there's only 32 trans athletes in the NCAA.

00:38:01.000 That's a lie.

00:38:03.000 There's a D3 diver who I just heard about.

00:38:07.000 There's a male on the lacrosse team at Syracuse and all of these other schools.

00:38:14.000 To believe that it's not happening is to totally fall right into their hand.

00:38:20.000 And I wanted to speak to the men here.

00:38:23.000 We as men can't put up with this. 0.56

00:38:25.000 We need to stand up against these psychopaths.

00:38:30.000 I truly, I think there's two things happening here.

00:38:33.000 And then I want to talk about your faith, Riley, and we'll do some questions.

00:38:35.000 Number one, I think that feminism has for so long been trying to make women into men. 1.00

00:38:41.000 And the next extension of that is just women, quote unquote, becoming men.

00:38:45.000 And feminism wants men to become women. 1.00

00:38:48.000 And they've done a good job of that.

00:38:50.000 Because in a properly structured society, it's the man's job to say no.

00:38:55.000 It's the man's job to enforce rules, order, discipline, boundaries.

00:39:02.000 This should not happen in America.

00:39:04.000 And it's happening because we have become a less masculine country.

00:39:11.000 This should not.

00:39:12.000 And by the way, we have some amazing pastors here.

00:39:15.000 I'm so glad.

00:39:16.000 How many times I hear from pastors, oh, oh, Charlie, I don't want to get political.

00:39:20.000 I'm not going to mention this. 0.90

00:39:21.000 If you do not mention the trans zealotry as a pastor, resign from the ministry. 0.96

00:39:26.000 You must resign from the ministry. 0.87

00:39:30.000 This is one of the biggest issues happening in America.

00:39:33.000 Riley, we'll do questions in a second here.

00:39:35.000 Talk about your faith, how important it is for you.

00:39:38.000 And what I want you all to understand: three years ago, Riley Gaines was a college student and was an NCAA athlete.

00:39:46.000 And now she's been thrust into the culture war. 1.00

00:39:49.000 Many of you say, Charlie, I'm just this, I'm just that.

00:39:53.000 If you pursue excellence, you have no idea what God has in store for you for a fight for righteousness and goodness.

00:39:59.000 Talk about your faith, Riley, and we'll do some questions.

00:40:02.000 I'm very fortunate to have had a strong family foundation, which I think is a very important piece to this: having two parents who love each other, who have stayed together.

00:40:13.000 I have an amazing three siblings, all my grandparents.

00:40:17.000 I'm very fortunate to have a very strong family foundation.

00:40:19.000 That being said, my parents raised me in the church.

00:40:23.000 So I grew up with a spiritual foundation.

00:40:26.000 But I will tell you, this past year, I have been spiritually awakened.

00:40:33.000 I have seen just so clearly how God works and how he moves and how he has his hand on me.

00:40:40.000 But just as clearly, just as clearly, I have seen how his opposition works and how he moves and how he deceives and how he manipulates and how he lies.

00:40:56.000 And I know this.

00:40:57.000 It's really no longer a battle of right versus wrong or good versus bad.

00:41:00.000 This really is moral versus evil.

00:41:03.000 And I looked that evil in the eyes in San Francisco.

00:41:05.000 And let me tell you, it's soulless.

00:41:08.000 It is vengeful.

00:41:09.000 It is violent.

00:41:10.000 It is hateful.

00:41:11.000 And they do it in the name of love and inclusion and tolerance and acceptance and welcoming and all those different things.

00:41:19.000 But let's not forget what love is.

00:41:23.000 Myself, I constantly refer back to this term of true love.

00:41:27.000 And those terms, truth and love, they're synonymous.

00:41:31.000 It is loving to say the truth.

00:41:34.000 That is what love is.

00:41:36.000 Anything else, that's not compassionate to lie, to affirm someone's delusions.

00:41:43.000 In the past, would we ever tell an anorexic person who believes they're fat, that they're actually fat?

00:41:49.000 Would we tell someone with schizophrenia that these voices they hear talking to them, would we tell them that those voices are real and that they're there?

00:41:57.000 Same thing with a manic episode.

00:41:58.000 We don't do that, but that's what we're seeing happen now.

00:42:03.000 Back to the faith piece, though.

00:42:05.000 I struggled with this at first because before anything, I want to live a Christ-like life.

00:42:10.000 That's what we're here as Christians on this earth to do is to spread his word, his message, his gospel.

00:42:15.000 And so I'd have people telling me, you know, you say you're a Christian, but this isn't what God would do.

00:42:20.000 Our God loves all.

00:42:22.000 And while I, of course, knew that, I struggled.

00:42:26.000 Am I doing the right thing?

00:42:28.000 I would talk to my people around me who were strong in their faith, my youth pastors, different people.

00:42:35.000 And they reassured me, Riley, of course we have a God who loves, but we have a God who hates sin.

00:42:42.000 And we have a God who holds people accountable.

00:42:46.000 These people, they're desperately looking to put their identity into something.

00:42:52.000 But as Christians, as humans, the only place we will find satisfaction is putting our identity in Christ.

00:43:05.000 Amen.

00:43:07.000 John 10, 10, the enemy comes to lie, steal, and destroy, but I, Jesus, have come to give life and life more abundantly.

00:43:16.000 Let's line up for some questions, everybody.

00:43:18.000 And I know that some of you might have a lot of questions for me politically and stuff.

00:43:22.000 I'm not interested in that tonight.

00:43:24.000 Keep your topics for Riley, for the trans thing, for sports, athletics, education.

00:43:29.000 If you guys have, you guys can call into my radio show or email my radio show.

00:43:34.000 We are blessed to have Riley here tonight.

00:43:36.000 So let's keep that around that topic and that genre and maximize our time together.

00:43:40.000 We'll start right over there.

00:43:42.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:43:42.000 All right.

00:43:43.000 Oh, thank you.

00:43:44.000 Thank you, Riley, for coming and for just being so outspoken.

00:43:47.000 My name is Kim Miller.

00:43:49.000 I'm the founder of Arizona Women of Action.

00:43:51.000 And we have been fighting this issue.

00:43:55.000 In fact, we have joined with our state superintendent of public instruction, Tom Horn, to fight and defend the Save Women Sports Act in Arizona.

00:44:04.000 So we are right there with you.

00:44:08.000 And we've been on media trying to stand up.

00:44:11.000 The women who are behind us in this group of women of action have all said, we're all in.

00:44:16.000 We don't care if we get bullied.

00:44:18.000 We don't care if we get hated.

00:44:19.000 We have to stand up.

00:44:20.000 And so just like you did, we're trying to do that.

00:44:23.000 But my question is, when we go and talk to people, so often it's women who are the ones fighting against us to defend women.

00:44:32.000 And our message has always been, just like you said, that you can't have compassion without reality.

00:44:39.000 And so how do we, if this law gets overturned or if we lose this court case and these boys who are, they're saying, are prepubescent or they've been on, you know, gender hormones, that they're okay to compete against girls, as if hormones are the only difference between men and women that, if that happens, what do we do to say, how do we instruct women to fight? 0.58

00:45:05.000 Do we tell them to just keep their girls off the teams? 1.00

00:45:09.000 I think it's a really important and interesting point.

00:45:12.000 How you bring up it, it tends to be women fighting women. 1.00

00:45:16.000 Don't even get me started on Megan Rapino or the stupid press secretary or any of these women who claim to to really pride themselves on advocating and fighting for women, yet they're the ones. 1.00

00:45:28.000 But I think that speaks to our innate differences. 0.99

00:45:32.000 Women tend to be more agreeable, we tend to be more emotionally involved, we tend to be more apologetic, which only furthers our point that men and women are different. 0.54

00:45:43.000 But I think it's important to to continue, of course, raising awareness, because now more than ever and we're seeing this happen where we saw it with BUD Light, we've seen it with Target people, now more than ever, are looking for alternatives.

00:45:58.000 They're looking for ways to show that enough is enough without publicly being outspoken, because I understand not everyone can, can take, do what we do stand on the stage and for other reasons other than just feeling, you know, like they don't want to be ostracized some people don't.

00:46:17.000 It's, it's nerve-wracking to be on the stage in different things, but people, now more than ever, are looking for alternatives, and so I think, continuing to spread awareness for the longest time I didn't think a boycott was the way forward.

00:46:30.000 I thought, you know, no, we shouldn't have to compromise.

00:46:33.000 But I'll tell you when my perspective on that changed.

00:46:37.000 When this bill was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives and it fell entirely on party lines, meaning 219 Republicans voted in favor of protecting women's sports and 203 Democrats voted in opposition of protecting women's sports.

00:46:53.000 Entirely on party lines.

00:46:55.000 And that's when I realized, okay, it's not legislation that's going to make this change.

00:46:59.000 Or if it is, it's going to be, it's going to involve too many girls getting exploited in locker rooms or hurt or missing out on opportunities before change is really made. 1.00

00:47:09.000 It will take a boycott.

00:47:11.000 We've seen boycotts in the past be effective and we need that now.

00:47:16.000 Like the NCAA, they're not following the red or the blue.

00:47:21.000 They follow the green.

00:47:24.000 We have to hit them where it hurts, which is the pockets.

00:47:26.000 And so a lot of the times that means withdrawing your participation or funds or whatever that looks like.

00:47:33.000 But I think Mr. Horn is incredible.

00:47:37.000 And the work you guys, I followed y'all's work, and it's really awesome.

00:47:40.000 And so I will be, anytime you need me here, I'm here.

00:47:53.000 Hey, Charlie. 1.00

00:47:54.000 I was just asking, should we forgive gays if they have gone back and forgiven, like ask God forgive them? 0.99

00:48:06.000 So should we forgive homosexuals that have left the homosexual lifestyle? 0.99

00:48:10.000 Absolutely, yes. 1.00

00:48:12.000 More importantly, God forgives them. 1.00

00:48:13.000 And in fact, we should, we must understand homosexuality is a behavior. 0.73

00:48:17.000 It's not an identity. 0.95

00:48:19.000 This is where our culture, and this is a thought crime.

00:48:22.000 You are not gay. 0.97

00:48:23.000 You act gay. 1.00

00:48:27.000 Okay? 1.00

00:48:29.000 You act homosexual. 0.99

00:48:31.000 You act gay. 0.82

00:48:32.000 And so when someone ceases to act on a same-sex attraction, which some people have and some people don't, we should, of course, welcome them with open arms. 0.97

00:48:41.000 And there's rejoicing in heaven when anybody repents.

00:48:44.000 In fact, repentance is one of the most beautiful things a believer can do.

00:48:48.000 In fact, we should celebrate that and we should say your sins are completely and totally forgiven.

00:48:53.000 But I just want to re-emphasize this, is that your identity is not in your sexual attraction.

00:48:59.000 Your identity is in who is your savior.

00:49:02.000 That is your identity in Christ alone.

00:49:07.000 Okay, thank you so much.

00:49:10.000 Okay, I just want to pray to God, the Holy Spirit, and Lord Jesus to give me the right words to say.

00:49:15.000 Okay, so people ask me all the time, what's my pronoun?

00:49:18.000 You know, like, do I think I was born the wrong gender?

00:49:21.000 And no, you know, I was born a female, like you said earlier.

00:49:23.000 There's no amount of pills, no amount of surgeries that I could take that's going to make me a man at the end of the day.

00:49:30.000 Now, as far as, you know, who I love, and that's just people, like all people.

00:49:34.000 I don't know if you guys have watched the service from about four weeks ago.

00:49:37.000 What did Jesus say about transgenderism?

00:49:40.000 But if anybody didn't, I highly, highly suggest you go back and watch that beautiful service.

00:49:47.000 So I don't think this has anything to do with like equality.

00:49:50.000 I feel like something behind the scenes has to do with just further discord in America.

00:49:54.000 And if you agree with that or what, because I think all of America could see, you know, you're the winner, you know, like there's like bar none.

00:50:02.000 And as a solution, do you think maybe there'd be a women's, a men's, and then that community, you know, have their own?

00:50:11.000 Because, you know, there needs to be a solution to every problem instead of just talking about the problem.

00:50:16.000 So if that would be a good suggestion, maybe.

00:50:19.000 I have some strong thoughts for you at first.

00:50:22.000 This one is interesting because If we create a third category, it's really just another place for men to win.

00:50:31.000 It will be a male who identifies as a woman beating out the females who identify as men. 0.57

00:50:39.000 And I also think, again, with this whole thing, and we've seen it, we've seen it progress. 0.56

00:50:46.000 I think, especially since COVID, we came back and a lot of things were really different.

00:50:51.000 And what I realized is if you give an inch, they take a mile.

00:50:55.000 We have never in our history needed to do that.

00:51:00.000 And we still don't need to do that. 0.51

00:51:02.000 There are only two options: male and female.

00:51:10.000 Everyone falls into one of those categories.

00:51:14.000 Even if I hear the argument all the time: okay, what about intersex?

00:51:18.000 If you have a Y chromosome, you've gone through male puberty.

00:51:21.000 Therefore, biologically, you're a male. 0.71

00:51:24.000 Everyone is male or female.

00:51:26.000 We don't have to, and we shouldn't create a third category, I believe.

00:51:31.000 Plus, there's how do you raise funds?

00:51:34.000 How do you get enough people to play?

00:51:35.000 How do you get enough people to watch?

00:51:37.000 I certainly wouldn't watch.

00:51:39.000 No third category.

00:51:40.000 So, Mr. Thomas, William Thomas, could have had a delusion in his head that he's a woman while competing against other men and finishing 462nd.

00:51:50.000 Instead, we had to reconfigure all of our systems.

00:51:55.000 So, Riley with XX chromosomes had to compete against Delusional Freak with XY chromosomes. 0.52

00:52:01.000 So, then she had to tie. 1.00

00:52:03.000 Here's the problem with the trans thing: why do we have to change our systems for your mental problem? 0.88

00:52:10.000 We don't compete in the chromosomal category that you were born into. 0.99

00:52:17.000 This is one of the big problems: we should not have to redesign society just because you're tormented.

00:52:24.000 We will love on you if you're tormented.

00:52:27.000 We're going to find you healing through Christ if you're tormented.

00:52:30.000 But do not inflict your torment on others. 0.98

00:52:34.000 And that's what's at the root of the trans thing: hurt people, hurting people, broken people, breaking people. 0.59

00:52:40.000 Mr. Thomas is a broken person. 1.00

00:52:42.000 Only Jesus can heal Mr. Thomas. 1.00

00:52:45.000 And we actually did him a disservice by furthering his campaign of brokenness into the female category. 1.00

00:52:54.000 A properly configured society says, bro, you got problems. 1.00

00:52:57.000 Let's help you.

00:52:58.000 But we're not going to have you go create more chaos and confusion and be a thief against women that competed their whole lives to become NCAA champions. 1.00

00:53:07.000 Thank you.

00:53:13.000 Hey, Riley, I'm a swimming official for NC2A Meets.

00:53:19.000 And this year we've been asked to kind of overlook or not comment on the gender issue with a little bit of a hint that we may not be asked to officiate if we do or do something at the meet.

00:53:34.000 That being said, there's a new rule that just came out that I was reading about this year about swimsuits at NC2A meets.

00:53:42.000 The rule basically states that an athlete swimming in an event should wear the swimsuit that is for that event, suggesting, of course, that a male identifying as a female would have to wear a female suit, and then a female identifying as a male would have to wear a male suit.

00:54:04.000 I don't know if you're familiar with that new rule, but I'd like to hear your comment.

00:54:10.000 Well, at least they're fully going into it.

00:54:13.000 If they're going to believe it, I mean, they're going all the way.

00:54:17.000 But I'll tell you, this meet, this Leah Thomas thing happened at Georgia Tech.

00:54:23.000 I had the host rep of Georgia Tech at the meet send me a screenshot of what the NCAA had messaged them prior to allowing them to host the meet.

00:54:33.000 They said, you're not allowed to speak out in opposition of this meet being here.

00:54:37.000 And if you do, there will be consequences.

00:54:40.000 And it sounds like the same thing.

00:54:44.000 And it's discreet.

00:54:46.000 They do it in this sneaky way.

00:54:49.000 These rules.

00:54:51.000 You know, the only rule the NCAA came up with after the tie between Thomas and I was now they have a rule of what to do during a tie and they give the trophy to whoever is older.

00:55:04.000 That's how they saved their own butts. 1.00

00:55:06.000 That's how they justified their actions because Thomas is in fact older than me.

00:55:13.000 Not banning men from women's sports.

00:55:15.000 Now they have a rule of what to do during a tie.

00:55:18.000 And so this whole swimsuit thing, again, it's literally what we saw.

00:55:21.000 And it sounds like the Twilight Zone, but we're living in it.

00:55:26.000 It's like a Babylon B headline, but like real life.

00:55:30.000 I truly find myself now, I'm reading something, I'm like, wait, is this like the onion or whatever it's called?

00:55:35.000 Or is this real life?

00:55:36.000 And majority of the time, it's real life.

00:55:39.000 I want to thank you for being here.

00:55:40.000 I want you to pray about something.

00:55:42.000 You as a referee, if you were to ever referee over a meet like Riley, I would encourage you not to do that, to walk away as a referee.

00:55:50.000 I'm not telling you to do that, but if referees refused to sign on to these venues, we could kill this thing.

00:56:01.000 So just pray about that.

00:56:09.000 Hi, Charlie Riley.

00:56:10.000 My name is Jeff, and I'm a husband, and I'm a father of two kids.

00:56:14.000 One's a 13-year-old daughter who competes somewhat in gymnastics.

00:56:19.000 And I guess my question for you is you talk about your frustration, kind of feeling like you and other women are going at it alone.

00:56:26.000 And I can tell you, us men, many of us, don't want to have you be in that situation.

00:56:32.000 We want to stand by you and we want to reach out and step out when called to.

00:56:38.000 I have not butted up against my kids competing against people who are trans or anything like that.

00:56:44.000 I haven't come into that situation.

00:56:46.000 But just as the average citizen like myself, aside from being involved in school board meetings, which I am, and being involved politically, I've befriended elected officials and so forth.

00:56:55.000 What suggestions do you have just in everyday life for us to come to defense in this type of situation?

00:57:02.000 What can we do?

00:57:03.000 One, before anything, always stand firm in the truth.

00:57:07.000 I know we've said this a few times, but we can't pander when it comes to reality.

00:57:12.000 Secondly, be willing to defend your daughters.

00:57:17.000 Too many times, again, I hear from parents who aren't willing to do so, and that like breaks my heart.

00:57:26.000 Even these Democrat representatives who are voting in opposition of these things who have young daughters, they're sellouts.

00:57:35.000 We often ask ourselves the question of where are the feminists, right? 1.00

00:57:38.000 Which is a very valid question because where are the feminists? 1.00

00:57:42.000 But as Charlie mentioned, I think just as much as this conversation gets centered around girls and women, we need strong men.

00:57:51.000 And so while you should be willing to defend your daughters, teach your sons masculinity.

00:57:57.000 There's this saying, and it's hard times create strong men.

00:57:59.000 Strong men create good times.

00:58:01.000 Good times create weak men.

00:58:02.000 Weak men create hard times.

00:58:04.000 And it's incredibly interesting because you can see this cycle play out throughout history.

00:58:09.000 I think the last time we had a society full of strong men was in the 1940s during World War II.

00:58:15.000 I saw this tweet the other day that said in the 1940s we had men lying about their age so they could enlist in the draft and now we have men lying about their sex so they can get into women's sports, which I just thought was pretty funny and pretty telling. 0.93

00:58:30.000 And it shows how that cycle remains true. 0.67

00:58:33.000 And so be willing to defend your daughters and teach your sons masculinity.

00:58:38.000 And I appreciate the work you do and being involved in the way that you are.

00:58:40.000 I think everyone needs to get more involved.

00:58:44.000 Yeah, and I would just add, one of the great tactics that I think we as conservatives have underutilized is civil disobedience.

00:58:54.000 Civil disobedience is biblical.

00:58:55.000 Daniel participated in civil disobedience in Daniel 6.

00:58:59.000 There's rules of civil disobedience.

00:59:01.000 You must do it when there's an injustice from a tyrant, an autocrat.

00:59:05.000 You must be willing to accept the punishment, and you must be able to win over other people while doing it.

00:59:11.000 Some of the great societal changes occur in civil disobedience, and it's always peaceful, right?

00:59:17.000 So what does civil disobedience look like?

00:59:19.000 You know, for example, let's say that your daughter's on a basketball team and you have to compete against a man.

00:59:23.000 You just go sit on the court, sit down on the court, and you don't play.

00:59:26.000 And you film it and you put it on Twitter.

00:59:29.000 I would retweet that, right?

00:59:30.000 Girls, you know, basketball team in Mesa, Arizona refuses to play and sits on the court and cancels the game. 1.00

00:59:36.000 Like, we need to come up with creative, peaceful ways to be able to send messages when there are these injustices.

00:59:45.000 Thank you.

00:59:47.000 Hi, my name is Dr. Courtney Phoenix.

00:59:50.000 I teach at amazing, wonderful university here in the Valley, Arizona Christian University.

00:59:57.000 And our foundation that we speak upon is transforming culture with truth.

01:00:02.000 And that has never been more true than the last 10 years.

01:00:06.000 And I have the honor of teaching pastors in Christian ministry capstone classes.

01:00:12.000 And we talk about these issues.

01:00:14.000 But what would, and this question is for either of you or both.

01:00:17.000 What would you say to these upcoming pastors of how can they transform culture with truth in midst of everything going on?

01:00:27.000 So that word transform is metamoufe in Greek, which in concordance comes up only a few times.

01:00:34.000 So in Romans 12, 2, it's the most famous verse that involves transform, and it's a do not, which is one of Paul's favorite.

01:00:41.000 So Romans is basically the Christian's constitution, right?

01:00:45.000 If you want to know the gospel, just read Romans.

01:00:47.000 It's really, really deep and you could spend a whole lifetime.

01:00:50.000 Romans 12, 2.

01:00:51.000 Do not conform to the ways of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

01:01:00.000 And so that's the first way: you tell these young pastors, do not conform to the way of this world.

01:01:05.000 Don't conform to the transeleatory.

01:01:07.000 You don't conform to hookup culture. 0.82

01:01:09.000 You don't conform to all these different things.

01:01:11.000 But then you allow yourself to be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

01:01:14.000 It goes on to say, and then testing it to God's perfect and pleasing will.

01:01:18.000 And so, yeah, if you want to transform culture, you must first reject it, not conforming to it.

01:01:23.000 And then finally, if you look at Jesus, you know, in Matthew, Mark, and John, it talks about being salt and light.

01:01:29.000 Salt and light are transforming agents.

01:01:31.000 By definition, they change that what they come in contact with.

01:01:34.000 So Jesus does not want us to keep the environment the same.

01:01:37.000 He wants us to go into something and make it either saltier or lighter.

01:01:41.000 And so you have to find environments that need work, and you have to be active agents to transform them for goodness and righteousness.

01:01:53.000 Anderson.

01:01:53.000 Hey, Anderson.

01:01:54.000 Hi.

01:01:56.000 Hey, Riley.

01:01:56.000 Thank you for coming out.

01:01:58.000 So basically, I've been a swimmer for the past seven years, and this is my senior year.

01:02:03.000 And I've also decided to take up the role of leading FCA, which is Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

01:02:09.000 And so for those past seven years, we've always had it on campus.

01:02:12.000 But last year, the school decided that we're not allowed to have it on campus and we need to have it outside because other students of other religions, they wanted to have their own study of their religious texts.

01:02:25.000 And I just wanted to ask you, what words of advice or tips do you think I can do to help the school have us back beyond campus?

01:02:36.000 It always seems to be an attack on Christianity, which is, again, if we're looking at the breakdown of faith, if we're looking at the different pieces of this, like the silencing, the denying of truth, the changing of the language, it really is Marxism.

01:02:53.000 In terms of what to do, I think it's important to garner support.

01:02:57.000 Make it public.

01:02:58.000 Let it be known that what your school is doing.

01:03:01.000 I don't imagine the people of Arizona would stand for this.

01:03:05.000 And so if you have public opinion on your side, your school will cave.

01:03:08.000 Charlie and I were just talking back here before this, that every institution wants something.

01:03:14.000 Always.

01:03:15.000 Finding out how you can hinder them, what you can use to really hold and hold it above their head.

01:03:25.000 Because again, I really think public opinion is important and you certainly would have it on your side on this.

01:03:31.000 And so I think that would be useful to garner and show to your school: look, we want this.

01:03:38.000 And when I say we, I mean the people of this state.

01:03:42.000 Isn't it interesting that they never tell the gay club to go off campus?

01:03:46.000 So you get gay flags and all this. 0.95

01:03:48.000 I will say to Anderson, I'd be happy to talk to you privately, but I would say this about this. 0.99

01:03:54.000 There was a great lesson the last couple weeks.

01:03:56.000 These schools are way weaker than they purport.

01:03:58.000 They're straw man.

01:03:59.000 One of my favorite stories, and we helped pour gasoline on it, was young Jaden in Colorado with the don't tread on me flag and his mom at the wherewithal to film that meeting goes viral and the whole school backs off.

01:04:15.000 Sometimes it's a little bit of exposure, a little bit of sunlight, a little bit of pressure, and these institutions can break.

01:04:21.000 And so I would hold the line and I would call them out and find the hypocrisy and don't give in.

01:04:27.000 Thanks, Anderson.

01:04:32.000 Hi, my name is Roy.

01:04:34.000 I've worked in the mental health field for years and I'm seeing what has been contained into that spill over into trying to be societal norms.

01:04:44.000 And this is a good example.

01:04:47.000 But I want to say thanks for your bravery and your courage.

01:04:51.000 Keep it up.

01:04:52.000 But also, I was wondering, has anyone thought of legislating for mandatory blood tests for hormonal levels to match the norm of the gender that you're competing against?

01:05:07.000 You know, so that like say Leah Thomas, his testosterone level should have been checked, you know, because that's unfair. 1.00

01:05:17.000 Women's are lower. 1.00

01:05:20.000 So that should be mandatory as far as I'm concerned. 1.00

01:05:22.000 Anyone thought of that?

01:05:23.000 So that's like what the IOC has implemented, which is the International Olympic Committee. 0.86

01:05:28.000 I believe their level is five nanomoles per liter of testosterone to compete in the opposite sex. 0.96

01:05:36.000 That's not computable still to a woman's testosterone level. 1.00

01:05:40.000 Men on average have 20 times more testosterone. 0.89

01:05:44.000 So asking them to get to the average woman's level, which is anywhere from 0.8 to 2.5 or so. 0.96

01:05:51.000 So around one nanomole per liter, that would be incredibly dangerous for a man first and foremost. 0.93

01:05:59.000 Secondly, there are differences outside of just testosterone level that contribute to success, especially in something that requires athleticism or sheer strength, like lung capacity, like the obvious things such as height and limb size and foot size, your heart size.

01:06:17.000 Those things aren't changing even with testosterone suppression.

01:06:21.000 So I don't believe that regulating hormone levels and only hormone levels is a way to make competition fair.

01:06:30.000 And also bone density, muscle mass, in addition.

01:06:33.000 I will just say this, just you said something that I wanted to make sure I mentioned earlier. 0.99

01:06:38.000 Gender does not exist. 0.91

01:06:39.000 Only sex exists. 1.00

01:06:41.000 I encourage all of us to change our language. 1.00

01:06:43.000 Gender does not exist. 1.00

01:06:44.000 It is a fake construct.

01:06:46.000 So people say, what gender are you? 0.82

01:06:47.000 That is not how people talked 100 years ago. 0.60

01:06:49.000 There's only two sexes. 1.00

01:06:50.000 There are zero genders. 0.87

01:06:51.000 It is a made-up academic term to get us to believe that you could change your God-given identity.

01:06:57.000 We have to change our language and reject it completely.

01:07:00.000 Sex exists. 1.00

01:07:01.000 Gender does not. 1.00

01:07:02.000 Now, you might have a horoscope.

01:07:04.000 You might have personality. 0.82

01:07:05.000 You might have, you know, certain, let's just say leanings one way, but gender is a made-up construct. 1.00

01:07:11.000 We must reject it. 1.00

01:07:12.000 As soon as we yield that ground, we're already losing.

01:07:14.000 All right, next question.

01:07:15.000 Thank you.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, are you going to hold it for me?

01:07:19.000 Riley, my name's Howard Sauter.

01:07:20.000 A little bit of a preamble before the question.

01:07:23.000 I got out of the Army in the late 50s, soon found myself a police officer, refereeing the riots that came out of the Vietnam Arrow.

01:07:33.000 One thing that stuck in my mind was a particular saying that the rioters had that I thought very poignant, although impractical.

01:07:42.000 And that was, what if they gave a war and nobody king?

01:07:45.000 So my question to you is, what if they gave a swimming that was trans related and nobody showed up? 0.84

01:07:55.000 That's what needs to happen. 0.96

01:07:58.000 It would just take one time that way.

01:08:02.000 It would take one time to make an effective statement that would say, we've rolled up our sleeves and we're saying enough is enough.

01:08:11.000 It would take one time.

01:08:13.000 So that needs to happen. 0.67

01:08:16.000 I will say, when I was in the situation that I was in competing against Thomas, I tried talking with the other girls, asking them, what happens if we wouldn't race? 0.59

01:08:29.000 And no one was willing to do it.

01:08:31.000 Everyone was scared.

01:08:32.000 You know, it's my last swim meet.

01:08:34.000 And I fell into this boat.

01:08:36.000 I didn't feel like I should have to give anything up.

01:08:39.000 I was like, no, I worked for this.

01:08:41.000 I deserve to compete.

01:08:42.000 It was my last swim meet as well of my whole 18-year career.

01:08:48.000 But looking back now, I think it happened in the way that it did for a reason.

01:08:53.000 But looking back now, I wish I would have tried harder to get us to not compete.

01:09:00.000 Yeah, and to add on, this is the, you know, Riley, you're a difference with here, but men, we wouldn't put up with this.

01:09:07.000 If there was somebody actively cheating in our athletics, we would either boycott or we would just fight them.

01:09:11.000 Like this, we would not put up with it.

01:09:13.000 No, we're just different.

01:09:14.000 I'm not saying that's a good thing, but you're trying to, if I was in high school and there was like, for example, a 35-year-old NFL player going up against, we wouldn't put up with it.

01:09:22.000 We would yell so loud, we would get so intense, we would rally the troops, we would boycott, and it's just men or women are different.

01:09:29.000 You're right. 0.80

01:09:29.000 Women are more agreeable, and women right now are just being bulldozed by men, which was always the argument of feminism, which is hilarious. 0.80

01:09:37.000 We don't want to be dominated by men, so let's be dominated by men. 0.99

01:09:41.000 Next question.

01:09:43.000 Ms. Gaines, what has been the best part of being courageous?

01:09:48.000 I have gotten to meet so many amazing people.

01:09:52.000 And being in environments like tonight and looking out and seeing so many people who are really ready to take action, you might think I'm here inspiring you guys, but it's this that inspires me.

01:10:05.000 I have gotten to meet so many amazing people, go to so many amazing places, and really make impact, which is what I knew when I began to speak out.

01:10:14.000 What I wanted to do is make impact.

01:10:17.000 Whether that's traveling state to state, whether that's testifying in front of Congress or the Senate or whatever that looks like, these different policy changes I've been involved in.

01:10:29.000 I have been involved in disc golf policy changes.

01:10:33.000 I know nothing about disc golf, yet here I am advocating for these women. 1.00

01:10:38.000 So it's kind of just this empowering feeling.

01:10:42.000 And myself, I have a younger sister who's a phenomenal athlete.

01:10:46.000 She's a state champion, gymnast.

01:10:49.000 She's really incredible.

01:10:51.000 And being just married myself and hoping one day that I get to be fortunate enough to have a daughter of my own, I can imagine being in the position that I'm in, really seeing what we saw, experiencing what we did, and not fighting for her.

01:11:07.000 I don't know.

01:11:08.000 It's just, it's things like this that I know that's a pretty cliche answer, but truthfully, it revitalizes me and helps me further go on, if that makes sense.

01:11:20.000 I want to make sure I mention before we get to the next question, there was a recent piece in news that goes to show this is deeper than sports to that other question.

01:11:29.000 So there is one institution that has banned men who think they are women and women who think they are men from crossing over.

01:11:38.000 And it's not basketball, it's not football.

01:11:40.000 It's the International Chess Association.

01:11:46.000 Now, I did a whole hour of radio on this.

01:11:51.000 And the media did not like what I had to say.

01:11:54.000 Now, you would think, why would men be better at chess than women?

01:11:59.000 Now, some people say, oh, Charlie, are you trying to say they're smarter?

01:12:02.000 No, no, no, no.

01:12:03.000 Hear me out.

01:12:04.000 This shows that you can take all the drugs you want.

01:12:07.000 Our brains are different.

01:12:08.000 And I'll prove it to you.

01:12:10.000 Men are better at macro, military strategy, planning, offensive coordinating of football.

01:12:17.000 You sit down at a party, and if I don't know if I'm sitting next to a man or a woman, if they start talking about politics, the stock market, or macro events, it's a man. 0.93

01:12:28.000 If they're talking about their kids, the sicknesses in the neighborhood, it's a woman. 0.92

01:12:33.000 Very micro. 1.00

01:12:35.000 Women are masters of the micro. 1.00

01:12:38.000 Men are much better at macro. 0.77

01:12:40.000 This is why you'll see a man with untied shoes talking about how we have to save us from some sort of existential evil.

01:12:47.000 By the way, we need both the macro and the micro. 0.79

01:12:49.000 But the chess thing is so interesting because the International Chess Foundation says we cannot allow men who think they are women to compete in women categories.

01:12:57.000 It's not fair.

01:12:59.000 This has nothing to do with testosterone, nothing to do with estrogen, nothing to do with lung capacity.

01:13:03.000 Our brains are different, everybody.

01:13:06.000 So different.

01:13:07.000 All right, I had to get that off my chest.

01:13:09.000 Next question.

01:13:10.000 Hi there, Riley.

01:13:11.000 My name is Kayla.

01:13:12.000 I'm actually a Dream City College student.

01:13:14.000 Woo! 0.99

01:13:15.000 Yeah, that's fun.

01:13:18.000 So my question is, about a year ago, I decided that I wanted to go into education because I felt that there weren't a lot of educators who truly love children and wanted to see them thrive in California.

01:13:29.000 About a year ago, I ended up calling the state board of California to see what the requirements were for K through A education.

01:13:35.000 And right now, the state is mandating that for kindergartners, so five, four, five, possibly six-year-olds, they are teaching gender studies in the state of California.

01:13:45.000 My predominantly Republican county is having a really hard time fighting this.

01:13:49.000 They're trying to stay back from it.

01:13:51.000 School boards are pushing back, but they can only push back so far.

01:13:55.000 I ended up leaving California to move here because I decided I wouldn't teach gender studies in school. 0.96

01:14:01.000 School is not a place to teach about gender. 1.00

01:14:04.000 So I believe that there are plenty, plenty of good Californian educators that really do want to see kids thrive and want to see them grow and don't want to be teaching gender studies.

01:14:15.000 So my question is: how would you encourage the people in California, the educators in California who are standing up for all the right things to continue doing that? 0.92

01:14:25.000 This is why they're all moving to my home of Nashville, Tennessee.

01:14:30.000 But seriously, it goes back to the same thing.

01:14:34.000 You have to create a coalition of these educators who know this is nonsense.

01:14:39.000 And it's hard to create that coalition because, again, I was in that same boat.

01:14:45.000 And it's hard to get everyone on the same page.

01:14:47.000 It's hard to have these conversations, but you're exactly right.

01:14:50.000 There are more people than just yourself who know this is wrong and goes against their moral compass.

01:14:55.000 But creating this coalition and the same premise of holding the line, saying we won't teach this, or what happens if we don't teach this.

01:15:07.000 We will not comply to this.

01:15:11.000 It's hard because there are so many who do.

01:15:15.000 At any cost, they will.

01:15:17.000 But having enough people who won't is just powerful in its ends a statement.

01:15:25.000 Thank you.

01:15:26.000 And I would just say, you know, for those of you that are in the classroom, just say, you're going to have to fire me.

01:15:30.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:15:31.000 It's that simple.

01:15:32.000 Just do not actively do something that is evil against your values.

01:15:36.000 There's worse things than losing your job, everybody.

01:15:38.000 There's worse things than losing your job.

01:15:41.000 All right, two more.

01:15:42.000 We'll go here and then here.

01:15:43.000 Yes.

01:15:44.000 Yes, sir.

01:15:45.000 First of all, I want to say, where are my CC people at?

01:15:51.000 And then my question is for Riley.

01:15:52.000 What was your mindset training and how did you cultivate that mindset to be an incredible athlete?

01:15:58.000 That's really sweet.

01:15:59.000 And I feel like that often gets lost in the mix of all of this.

01:16:02.000 But my mindset to training was to develop a sense of consistency, which I actually think is really applicable to life outside of even training.

01:16:13.000 Come in every day and be consistent, whether that's in your diet, whether that's in your sleep schedule, whether that's in your studies, your training, your weightlifting, whatever that looks like.

01:16:23.000 I think consistency is the most important thing.

01:16:26.000 And that's something I really tried to develop myself.

01:16:29.000 And I actually felt like my junior and senior year, once I had kind of acclimated to the training and all of the lifting of the weights and stuff, which was new to me upon getting to college, I'd finally develop that sense of consistency, even among my attitude.

01:16:45.000 Every day I came in with an attitude of I'm here for two and a half hours, three hours.

01:16:50.000 While I'm here, I'm going to give it everything I have.

01:16:53.000 And when I leave, I'm not going to think about it, whether it was good or bad.

01:16:56.000 And so consistency to me is the most important thing.

01:17:00.000 And again, that transcends far beyond just athletics.

01:17:04.000 Do you play sports?

01:17:05.000 What do you play?

01:17:07.000 I play, I do jiu-jitsu right now.

01:17:08.000 Oh, nice.

01:17:09.000 Yeah.

01:17:14.000 This is for Riley.

01:17:15.000 So I'm going to end it off with his proffers from Proverbs 31 to 8.

01:17:20.000 Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves and for the rights who are district.

01:17:24.000 So recently, I'm part of the men's Bible study group from my church from Highlands.

01:17:30.000 And we just recently just got back through tender word from Santa Sweber, which actually kind of reading from the book, which has literally been a year ago, like, and now I'm kind of seeing all this stuff happening in all the corporate world, which kind of speaking of which, I just started to get back for the whole legislative thing in the legal world.

01:17:47.000 I just got back from the training video. 0.61

01:17:48.000 Was a transgender person in the whole video, and I was like, Is this the direction where this country is going? 1.00

01:17:54.000 Like, affecting with our own churches, which I think that's kind of against everything where we're going for and corporate things.

01:18:01.000 So, this is as someone who is also a blog writer and actually do a very devout Christian.

01:18:06.000 What could we do as Christians how we can actually speak up against those who actually go against everything with the Bible's doing for?

01:18:14.000 Well, lucky for us, we have a beautiful handbook of what to do when this is when these issues, again, these cultural issues are happening.

01:18:24.000 And you just read it.

01:18:27.000 We cannot continue to throw our moral compass out of the window because we're on this earth for a blink of an eye.

01:18:35.000 This is no amount of time when you're looking at eternity and what eternity means and how we can reach that eternity in heaven.

01:18:44.000 And we reach that eternity in heaven by standing firm for what God and Jesus stood firm for.

01:18:54.000 How to have grace, but say truth.

01:18:57.000 And I think it needs to be a balance, right?

01:18:59.000 Because if you're all truth, no grace, you're self-righteous. 0.58

01:19:01.000 And if you're all grace with no truth, you're just incompetent.

01:19:08.000 And so, we have to be able to hold all of those things that Jesus held close to his heart to our own heart.

01:19:16.000 Again, we have to live a Christ-like life before anything.

01:19:20.000 Thank you.

01:19:24.000 So, before closing thoughts, mark your calendars.

01:19:28.000 We have Senator Josh Hawley coming next month.

01:19:31.000 Very exciting.

01:19:33.000 That will be October 4th.

01:19:36.000 So, October 4th, right, Matt?

01:19:39.000 We have Senator Josh Hawley, who will be speaking about his new book on masculinity.

01:19:44.000 And so, it's a perfect kind of pairing with this.

01:19:47.000 Riley, final thoughts?

01:19:49.000 I'm just grateful.

01:19:52.000 As I mentioned, my heart just feels kind of overjoyed with gratitude and different things being here, seeing so many people who are really ready to do something, to get involved, to be proactive.

01:20:08.000 Because again, for too long, I think we've been reactive rather than proactive.

01:20:13.000 And seeing you all, it just kind of fills my cup.

01:20:18.000 And I'll say, Senator Hawley, he's amazing.

01:20:20.000 He was on a couple of the Senate judiciary hearings I was on.

01:20:24.000 Asked some pretty funny questions.

01:20:28.000 That one hearing where it was, what's his name?

01:20:33.000 The guy from Louisiana, the senator from Louisiana.

01:20:35.000 Senator Kennedy.

01:20:36.000 Oh, my God, Senator Kennedy.

01:20:38.000 And he's, well, Riley, now what do you know about this whole thing?

01:20:44.000 And I had this human rights campaign president sitting next to me.

01:20:48.000 And she looks at him and she says, Well, Serena can beat men in tennis. 0.94

01:20:54.000 Serena Williams can beat men in tennis. 0.81

01:20:56.000 And so that's when Senator Kennedy looks at me and he's like, Well, Riley, what do you know?

01:21:00.000 And it's like, Serena and Venus Williams lost to the 203rd ranked male player in a blowout while he was smoking and drinking in between sets.

01:21:11.000 So that's what I know.

01:21:19.000 But just really grateful.

01:21:22.000 And if I can be of any encouragement to you guys, please know that we are in the overwhelming majority.

01:21:28.000 Not just the overwhelming majority of Republicans or Christians.

01:21:31.000 The overwhelming majority of the general public has acknowledged that we have gone too far.

01:21:37.000 The pendulum has swung too far.

01:21:41.000 And know that.

01:21:42.000 That's important to know, really.

01:21:44.000 And again, know it's liberating to speak the truth.

01:21:46.000 You feel like a weight is off of your shoulders.

01:21:48.000 And once you do, you won't go back.

01:21:50.000 So I appreciate you guys.

01:21:52.000 We must speak the truth.

01:21:53.000 Give it up one more time for Riley Gaines, everybody.

01:22:00.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:22:01.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:22:04.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

01:22:10.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 20, 2023

What Country Are We Living In?: Live with Riley Gaines at Dream City Christian Church

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