The Charlie Kirk Show - What Democrats Say In Secret at the DNC

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00:00:02.000 Tyler Boyer joins the program about the proven success of our Super Chase program from Arizona.

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00:01:28.000 Tyler Boyer is with us.

00:01:29.000 He is the General Patton of Turning Point Action. 0.52

00:01:33.000 I just hope it ends better for you than it did for General Patton.

00:01:36.000 So, he is marshalling the ground forces, the Supreme Allied Commander.

00:01:41.000 So, I wanted to say this, that Steve Bannon from federal prison, last evening, sent out a message saying, the posse must focus on two things.

00:01:52.000 Voter turnout and election workers becoming election workers.

00:01:56.000 Tyler, we have this robust turning point action ballot chasing army that we have built.

00:02:03.000 What did we learn in our test case in the Arizona primary and explain it to the audience as if they are like in the nicest way a fifth grader and they don't understand So we put out a tweet, so you retweeted one of our team members, Hannah Toth, who is also a city councilwoman in Fountain Hills, Arizona.

00:02:24.000 So this is not somebody that's just like, just like, you know, random, low-level.

00:02:29.000 She's literally an elected official in the state, works for us full-time, data analyst that we have on the team with with Ben Larrabee that's in our office, who's worked for us for years, actually ran the professor watch list, which is a wonderful thing.

00:02:42.000 And so this we actually went through I wanted to take us through this this tweet that has some really specific data in it.

00:02:49.000 And I like it because it gives some real clear picture as as a comparison between 2024 2020.

00:02:58.000 So I want to start by saying this is that numbers from turnout for the primary were down overall from 2020.

00:03:06.000 From 2020.

00:03:07.000 So 2024's primary in Arizona, that was held just a few weeks ago.

00:03:11.000 Numbers were down.

00:03:12.000 However, where we have ballot chasers on the ground, full-time people, so our team that's on the ground, we saw significant increases in the places where we had the full-time bodies.

00:03:23.000 So I'm going to take you through a couple different places here.

00:03:26.000 Most of these are suburban areas of the Phoenix metro area.

00:03:30.000 So our number one turnout increase was in Surprise, where we saw a 27%.

00:03:35.000 West Valley of Phoenix.

00:03:37.000 West Valley of Phoenix.

00:03:38.000 So this is a statistical increase in Republican turnout was 27%.

00:03:45.000 Fountain Hills, where Hannah's from.

00:03:47.000 East of Scottsdale.

00:03:48.000 East of Scottsdale.

00:03:50.000 Sheriff Joe Land, that's where he's from.

00:03:52.000 That's some of the most conservative country out there.

00:03:53.000 Some of the most conservative country.

00:03:55.000 Superchase Precinct.

00:03:56.000 By the way, beautiful.

00:03:57.000 One of the most underrated parts of Phoenix.

00:03:59.000 Yeah, you got Four Peaks right in the background there.

00:04:01.000 And they literally have a major fountain.

00:04:03.000 They have a massive fountain.

00:04:04.000 I go to Fountain Hills all the time.

00:04:05.000 It's super underrated.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, it's incredible.

00:04:07.000 It's an incredible place.

00:04:09.000 Big retirement community that's turning a little bit more suburban.

00:04:12.000 A lot more families are moving out there.

00:04:16.000 23% increase for Republican turnout.

00:04:18.000 Peoria... Is that one precinct, though?

00:04:20.000 That one precinct.

00:04:20.000 So that's 800 voters-ish, right?

00:04:23.000 Yeah, I mean, there's usually, the average precinct has a couple thousand voters on one side, and so a 23% increase is substantial.

00:04:32.000 We're talking hundreds of voters that should have been the primary.

00:04:35.000 Peoria, same thing, 20% increase.

00:04:38.000 Queen Creek, which is the southeast valley, so we've now hit all four corners of the valley, all had A precinct with almost 20% or more increased turnout.

00:04:49.000 So the reason why this is good, Charlie, is because this is a primary.

00:04:53.000 So in Arizona, we didn't have a ton of competitor primaries.

00:04:57.000 And so having a significant increase with a ballot-chasing team on the ground is really, I think, indicative.

00:05:06.000 And the data that we have also of who we touched tells us that we are doing good.

00:05:11.000 Now, this is a real kicker of a stat.

00:05:14.000 Out of all the, we call them super chase precincts, all the places that we have to win in Maricopa County, 87% of this Chase the Vote staff precincts, our super chase precincts, exceeded Ruben Gallego's vote total.

00:05:31.000 So Ruben Gallego is running for Senate against now Carrie Lake, but it was Carrie, Mark Lamb, and Ruben Gallego in this race.

00:05:40.000 87% of those, almost 90% of the entire, of all these important precincts, Republicans won.

00:05:47.000 This is the kicker.

00:05:49.000 In 54% of those precincts, Cary Lake still beat Ruben Gallego.

00:05:54.000 And that's even with Mark Lamb being on the ticket.

00:05:56.000 So even with a spoiler on the ticket, and I'm not calling Mark a spoiler, but saying there's a second candidate splitting the vote, 54% of them still went Carrie Lake in the primary.

00:06:09.000 That's a huge, huge positive.

00:06:13.000 White pill, up and up, like big change.

00:06:17.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats significantly dropped their turnout for the primary.

00:06:21.000 So explain to me though, in every one of these precincts, we have a full-time person assigned to that.

00:06:26.000 What does that person do?

00:06:27.000 So that person is out right now.

00:06:29.000 So we have Literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of full-time representatives who are out right now.

00:06:34.000 In Arizona.

00:06:35.000 Largest force ever been seen.

00:06:37.000 Yes, in Arizona.

00:06:38.000 We also have Wisconsin and Nevada and Michigan.

00:06:42.000 But in Arizona, we have the largest force that we've ever put out.

00:06:45.000 This is... In the history of the movement.

00:06:46.000 In the history of the movement.

00:06:47.000 No, we're going all out in Arizona.

00:06:49.000 I mean, we're talking 20 times the amount of people out on the ground than any previous presidential campaign.

00:06:54.000 These individuals are assigned to their very specific neighborhood.

00:06:59.000 So they're not allowed to leave their neighborhood.

00:07:01.000 And their whole job is to talk to their neighbors, some of whom they already know, just to make sure they turn out votes.

00:07:08.000 So a good example of this is one of our guys was like, hey, you know, I just realized my father-in-law didn't vote for the last 12 years.

00:07:15.000 Got his vote out, right?

00:07:16.000 There's people on my street that I already know.

00:07:18.000 Had no idea that he didn't vote.

00:07:20.000 But it's easy for me to go approach them.

00:07:22.000 So that's what they're doing.

00:07:23.000 That's part of the success formula that we've been able to create.

00:07:26.000 That we've seen this turn out.

00:07:31.000 So when we talk about ballot chasing, this is ballot chasing in practice?

00:07:36.000 Yep.

00:07:37.000 This is actual ballot chasing that's in practice.

00:07:39.000 We now have a legitimate test case in this first primary.

00:07:44.000 This is the first year that Turning Point Action has ever put full-time bodies on the ground.

00:07:49.000 Uh, you know, we were told by a lot of different people in previous elections that they had it covered, had it covered, had it covered.

00:07:56.000 Uh, we weren't satisfied with the coverage.

00:07:58.000 Um, and so we said, you know, we shouldn't be the only ones doing it, but we're going to do it, right?

00:08:02.000 So Charlie's, you know, spending all his extra free time that he doesn't have.

00:08:06.000 Raising money and talking to donors on the phone.

00:08:08.000 Raising money.

00:08:08.000 I'm doing the same thing.

00:08:09.000 And, you know, that's in between media and, you know, managing this.

00:08:13.000 I've been doing back-to-back trainings.

00:08:15.000 And the C3.

00:08:15.000 We have to keep running.

00:08:16.000 Yeah, and I'm doing trainings every week on this.

00:08:21.000 We've now put hundreds and hundreds of people out.

00:08:23.000 But, you know, refocus back on Arizona.

00:08:26.000 You know, you have almost a 250,000 voter lead over the Democrats.

00:08:32.000 You just have a turnout problem at this point, right?

00:08:35.000 A turnout equation, which is we have to go out and turn out more people.

00:08:41.000 One last statistic that's really promising.

00:08:43.000 So out of all the people we talked to, And you're hearing this first because we haven't released this.

00:08:49.000 The people that we talked to at least two times in the neighborhoods, we had almost 40,000 of those people vote for the first time.

00:08:58.000 These are people who don't... Is this in the primary?

00:08:59.000 Yes.

00:09:00.000 So 40,000 first-time voters?

00:09:02.000 So 40,000 people who don't always vote.

00:09:05.000 What percentage of those would you say voted against Stephen Richard?

00:09:10.000 We know for a fact now with the stats and with the feedback that we've received that it's it's that's the reason why Stephen Richard lost.

00:09:16.000 That's what I'm getting at is that now we're able to say okay if it wasn't for our ballot chasing operation Stephen Richard would still be in.

00:09:23.000 So you said 40,000 disengaged people you were able to get in the primary?

00:09:29.000 So 40,000 people we know, so the number's even bigger than that.

00:09:33.000 So the impact that came from this, I'm not ready to say online, because I have to fact check and double check.

00:09:39.000 Yeah, you gotta triple check.

00:09:40.000 It's large, but 40,000 people, we had multiple conversations.

00:09:44.000 And some of those people didn't vote in 20?

00:09:45.000 Oh, they didn't vote in 20, they didn't vote in 16, but in general.

00:09:48.000 So we fell 10,000 votes short in the general in 2020, and you have, let's just say, a universe of 40,000-ish people that are now going to be introduced into the system Yeah, very clearly, 40,000 people who did not vote in 16 and or 20 voted in our primary.

00:10:05.000 voted in our primary. Which means they're almost like a 95% chance they're gonna vote.

00:10:11.000 But with chasing almost 100% chance. It's a massive, massive increase.

00:10:15.000 So you went from almost zero, less than 5% to 40%.

00:10:20.000 And again, we fell 10,000 ballots short in 2020.

00:10:23.000 Or 40,000.

00:10:23.000 Yeah.

00:10:24.000 We fell 10,000 ballots short in 2020.

00:10:27.000 You went from a few thousand people to 40,000 people, and that's almost four times that.

00:10:31.000 And that's not volunteers, and that's not even in a general.

00:10:34.000 So we could potentially chase hundreds of thousands of ballots.

00:10:37.000 That's the goal.

00:10:38.000 That's exactly what we're doing.

00:10:39.000 So that was our goal too, Charlie, was to make sure that we did that.

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00:11:57.000 So Tyler, what can everyday people do to get involved to be part of this now proven operation?

00:12:03.000 Well, and we'll take through, I just want to hit this one other data point, Charlie, because this is so exciting.

00:12:10.000 83% of all the precincts that we had full-time people out, beat Steven Richer, and that's with a spoiler candidate

00:12:18.000 in the race.

00:12:19.000 Now imagine it's 1-0-1 with the Democrats.

00:12:21.000 That's just pure turnip.

00:12:22.000 That's just pure turnip.

00:12:23.000 And so it's doable.

00:12:25.000 So going back, this is a proven thing that we now are looking at the data and we're going, oh, OK,

00:12:30.000 we've got a good handle on this.

00:12:32.000 What you can do, come work for us.

00:12:35.000 So the easy go-to kind of home link for everything is tpaction.com slash chase.

00:12:40.000 That takes you to all the different facets of ballot chasing.

00:12:44.000 Explains ballot chasing because a lot of people are like, oh, what is ballot chasing?

00:12:47.000 Well, it's identifying your neighbors, figuring out who's the best people to go target, and then following up with them.

00:12:53.000 But we have basically three different ways that you can get involved.

00:12:55.000 One, Come get a job with us.

00:12:57.000 tpaction.com slash careers.

00:13:01.000 We have full-time jobs.

00:13:02.000 Our second option is we now have part-time jobs open.

00:13:05.000 So we're now hiring extra jobs in Arizona, in Wisconsin.

00:13:09.000 We're putting as many people out into the field as possible.

00:13:11.000 Our team is incredible.

00:13:14.000 Lacey, that's overseeing this. 0.99

00:13:16.000 All of our managers, we have dozens of managers in Arizona, Wisconsin, and Nevada, and Michigan.

00:13:22.000 And so they're kicking butt getting people out into the field and doing this the right way.

00:13:27.000 And we have Donald Trump coming this Friday for a very synergistic event.

00:13:31.000 Talk about that.

00:13:32.000 So it's Donald Trump this Friday in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:13:35.000 So our big thing that we launched last week is Commit 100.

00:13:38.000 So we talked about it on your show quite a bit.

00:13:40.000 You can go to tpaction.com slash 100.

00:13:42.000 So if you're a person that's like, what can I do to get involved?

00:13:45.000 You can go tpaction.com slash 100.

00:13:47.000 Our team is going to assign you a custom list on the Turning Point Action application of 100 voters to contact.

00:13:55.000 Now, you can do that outside the state.

00:13:57.000 You can do that inside the state.

00:13:58.000 So Donald Trump's coming to Phoenix this Friday.

00:14:01.000 We're going to be hosting him.

00:14:02.000 It's going to be a huge packed house in the Coyotes Arena.

00:14:05.000 You need to be there.

00:14:06.000 You have to be there.

00:14:08.000 Anyone that's listening to this, you have to be there.

00:14:10.000 And here's the reason why.

00:14:11.000 At this event, we're not just going to sit and listen.

00:14:14.000 We are going to be engaging people to download the application, get signed up for Commit 100, because when you get assigned those 100 voters, when you come to Phoenix, when you come to Wisconsin, wherever you're at, we're going to make sure we're helping you Reach out to those people and chase those votes.

00:14:32.000 So there's going to be trainings that we're doing every single day in Phoenix at our headquarters.

00:14:37.000 So October 1st and on, every day we're doing two to three hour training for a regular activist to come in and do it.

00:14:44.000 And then sending them out to go chase 100 ballots.

00:14:46.000 Let's start with also the micro.

00:14:48.000 How important is it if you are married to make sure that your spouse mirrors ballots, that you guys are voting in alignment?

00:14:56.000 Yeah, I mean, this is probably the biggest opportunity for us.

00:14:59.000 We are going to so many households where there is a spouse that's just not voting.

00:15:02.000 Not voting, or they might be voting for Kamala, but they could be persuaded.

00:15:06.000 Yeah, they're persuadable, but, or what's happening is the left is coming up and snagging your spouse's ballot and you don't even realize it.

00:15:13.000 So try, if you are a woman or man or whatever, and you're the one that kind of handles that stuff in the house, you need to take ownership of that house. 0.97

00:15:22.000 Yeah, talk to your spouse.

00:15:23.000 Make sure that there's a plan to vote.

00:15:26.000 Make sure that you're voting together.

00:15:27.000 The number one thing that we talk about is if you're not voting with your spouse, that's a problem.

00:15:33.000 So take your spouse to go vote. 0.97

00:15:36.000 Make sure that they are, if it's early, if it's by mail, if it's on election day, that you have said, hey, I'm gonna go with you so we vote together.

00:15:46.000 That's probably the most important thing.

00:15:49.000 A lot of spouses, don't forget this, 10% of America is having a bad day today.

00:15:55.000 You're going to have a bad day on election day.

00:15:56.000 You're going to have a bad day on the day you plan to vote.

00:15:59.000 So the more that you can rely on each other and make a plan, rely on your family too.

00:16:04.000 Your parents, your siblings, your kids even.

00:16:08.000 Work together to make a plan to vote.

00:16:10.000 This is the election where you can create that really good habit.

00:16:14.000 And mail-in is so easy, especially for lower propensity voters.

00:16:18.000 And if you have high school kids that are turning 18 this cycle, get them registered to vote.

00:16:23.000 If you have college kids, you must get them registered to vote.

00:16:27.000 This stacks up votes.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, and remember, you know, in a lot of states you have same-day registration, so it's not too late.

00:16:33.000 Not Arizona, though.

00:16:34.000 Arizona does not.

00:16:35.000 The last state to register is October 6th.

00:16:38.000 You know, it's the last day you got to get it in.

00:16:39.000 Which is probably a good thing, honestly.

00:16:41.000 October 7th is when early ballots drop in Arizona, but many states have same-day registration.

00:16:48.000 Our team will be helpful.

00:16:51.000 You know, we're practical here.

00:16:53.000 Vote the way that you can make a plan, but don't be the person that forgets to vote.

00:16:58.000 This is public record.

00:16:59.000 We have a lot of people who are knocking on their doors and we're saying, Yeah, it looks like you sometimes forget to vote.

00:17:04.000 And they're like, no, I vote every time.

00:17:06.000 Well, the reality is, no, they don't.

00:17:08.000 They think they voted.

00:17:09.000 They think their spouse voted for them.

00:17:11.000 That's right.

00:17:11.000 But they did not.

00:17:12.000 tpaction.com slash chase.

00:17:14.000 There's no hiding from our data.

00:17:15.000 We could tell if you have voted or not.

00:17:17.000 That is tpaction.com slash chase.

00:17:20.000 Tyler, great work.

00:17:20.000 Thank you.

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00:18:52.000 We know that from the RNC that there was a lot of behind-closed-doors politics and maneuvering that happens right before and during a convention.

00:19:00.000 We also know that Democrats had a lot of maneuvering going around, going into this one.

00:19:04.000 What's going on inside the Democrat Party right now that viewers might not be seeing?

00:19:08.000 Charlie, good to join you.

00:19:09.000 Sorry we're not co-located.

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00:19:18.000 Well, what's going on is they're trying to correct the record from last night where they went too long.

00:19:24.000 So they're looking at the schedule and making sure they don't run over.

00:19:27.000 And in terms of politics, they're trying to take the energy, and there's no denying there's energy around this new ticket, and trying to figure out how do we turn that into votes in the seven battleground states.

00:19:38.000 It's easy to get caught up in the gauzyness of favorable press coverage and magazine covers and the media going gaga.

00:19:48.000 But they're trying to figure out, all right, how do we take the delegates here?

00:19:50.000 How do we take the media here and turn that into actual votes in the battleground states?

00:19:54.000 Yeah, and translating the enthusiasm and the energy into a swing voter in Western Pennsylvania are two separate things.

00:20:02.000 Looking at last night and the programming, do you think last night was more about kind of just getting the Biden thing out of the way, in the sense where he's not necessarily a popular president?

00:20:12.000 Or do you think that there was some swing voter outreach last evening?

00:20:16.000 What was your analysis of how last evening went?

00:20:19.000 Yeah, so it's kind of like the Wizard of Oz.

00:20:21.000 You can't just pay attention to the man in front of the camera.

00:20:24.000 You gotta look behind the curtain.

00:20:26.000 The Biden thing had to be done.

00:20:27.000 They had to figure out a way to honor him enough so that his nose wasn't out of joint.

00:20:31.000 His supporters were happy.

00:20:33.000 But then to usher him off the stage.

00:20:34.000 But look earlier in the evening.

00:20:36.000 When you had labor leaders, you had abortion rights activists, those folks were on the stage, but they're also being sliced and diced for social media and for local news interviews.

00:20:47.000 And what you don't see if you're just watching the TV coverage is there's a factory behind the scenes here.

00:20:53.000 Republicans do the same thing, where they're taking those folks to satellite interviews, to social media creation, to local news, to try to figure out, as much as they can, how to take the message from the big stage and target it to, as you said, those undecided voters in Western PA and the other battleground areas.

00:21:12.000 But it's not just the undecided, right?

00:21:13.000 It's also about energizing the base.

00:21:15.000 Every election involves both, and so it's also taking those same folks and packaging them in a slightly different way.

00:21:21.000 To get the bass energized as well.

00:21:24.000 So, can you help the audience understand, because I'm sure it's been reported on, but for an organization that is run by Hollywood, that's used to Oscars and Emmy ceremonies, how on earth did they go so over time yesterday?

00:21:40.000 What was the reason for that?

00:21:41.000 You said there were some adjustments being made there, and it wasn't exactly the most, let's just say, honoring of Joe Biden, the fact that he ended up finishing his speech around, literally, You know, I came back to my room to watch the speech and I was so tired.

00:21:59.000 The only way I could stay awake was to stand up, put my shoes back on, and eat chocolate while I watched the end of the speech.

00:22:06.000 That's an unorthodox manner that probably most Americans didn't resort to because they didn't have a professional obligation to see it.

00:22:13.000 Why do Democrats run over? 0.97

00:22:14.000 First of all, they have a harder time than Republicans saying no.

00:22:18.000 And so they put a bunch of people in the schedule who really aren't essential, but that fattens

00:22:22.000 things up.

00:22:23.000 Second, they don't really police the timing.

00:22:27.000 So if somebody runs over, they let them run over.

00:22:30.000 And it's very hard to get the time back.

00:22:31.000 Eventually, they killed out two speakers and James Taylor, the pop artist, and they still

00:22:40.000 It was a disaster from that respect.

00:22:44.000 It still got covered, but obviously on the East Coast, fewer people are going to see it.

00:22:48.000 And so they're trying to avoid a repeat of that by tightening up the schedule.

00:22:51.000 And they're going to try to enforce the speaker's time.

00:22:54.000 And if somebody's in for three minutes, you got to get them off the stage after three minutes.

00:22:57.000 And there's different techniques to use that.

00:22:59.000 You're right about Hollywood.

00:23:01.000 The problem is the Hollywood rules don't apply here.

00:23:03.000 This is the rules of the Democratic Party, which basically are no rules at all.

00:23:08.000 Yeah, it's just such a contrast.

00:23:09.000 I mean, I had spoken at a couple RNCs previous, and at the RNC, the number one rule is you do not go overtime.

00:23:15.000 You do not go overtime.

00:23:17.000 You just read the words.

00:23:18.000 You do it.

00:23:19.000 It was so strict, and it's a made-for-television event.

00:23:23.000 So, I want to now go to this story here.

00:23:25.000 It was kind of an underplayed story yesterday.

00:23:27.000 Reuters reported it, that Kamala Harris' Super PAC decided to speak outwardly and publicly, saying that the polling that they are seeing is far tighter and less rosy than, say, the New York Times Siena poll that had Kamala Harris up five in Arizona, which is awfully ambitious.

00:23:46.000 Why on earth would a Super PAC speak out publicly, especially given the new FEC guidelines that Super PACs are now allowed to speak to campaigns?

00:23:55.000 So if the Super PAC was getting data that they found that was not consistent, they could have picked up the phone legally now because new FEC guidelines and just said, hey, David Plouffe, this is not, you know, we're on the same page.

00:24:07.000 Yeah, got it.

00:24:08.000 Instead, the Super PAC decided to go to the press.

00:24:10.000 What's going on here?

00:24:12.000 Excuse me.

00:24:12.000 So there are three reasons to do that.

00:24:15.000 And they have to do with the expectations game that campaigns always play, right?

00:24:18.000 On the one hand, you want to say, things are going great, have the bandwagon effect, and kind of intimidate and demoralize the other side.

00:24:26.000 And to get people to say, yeah, I want to vote for that group because they're doing great, and I want to be on the winning team.

00:24:31.000 The other balance to that is you don't want to be overconfident.

00:24:34.000 And what's the super PAC in the business of?

00:24:37.000 Getting rich people to write checks.

00:24:39.000 It's harder to get some rich people to write checks if things are going so well, they don't think they need them.

00:24:43.000 So that's number one is to get checks.

00:24:45.000 Number two is they don't want to appear overconfident.

00:24:48.000 If you look at the coverage of Kamala Harris by her allies in the media, You'd say she's going to win this thing easily. 0.96

00:24:54.000 What does she say all the time? 0.99

00:24:56.000 We're the underdogs.

00:24:57.000 Why does she do that? 1.00

00:24:58.000 She doesn't want people to not volunteer.

00:25:01.000 She doesn't want people to forget to vote early. 1.00

00:25:03.000 She doesn't want people to fail to make small dollar contributions, which is different than the Super PAC.

00:25:09.000 And the last reason to say it is about expectations here.

00:25:12.000 Some of these public polls, like that New York Times poll with Charlize, you know, gets so much attention because it's the New York Times, are creating a sense that Harris has got a lead of outside or close to outside the margin of error and that it's growing.

00:25:25.000 And what they're worried about is we get to the September after Labor Day, and maybe she doesn't do well in the debate.

00:25:31.000 And then all of a sudden, when momentum matters even more in August, right, it's like a basketball game.

00:25:37.000 If you have momentum in the first quarter, that's great.

00:25:39.000 But when do you want momentum?

00:25:40.000 You want it in the fourth quarter.

00:25:41.000 And what they're worried about is if their polling is right, and most of the private polling I've seen is tighter than the public polling, like the New York Times set of data.

00:25:50.000 What you don't want is to get to September and to have the perception out there that Harris lost the lead from five down to one, or five down to even.

00:25:59.000 And at that point, you're not the momentum candidate.

00:26:02.000 You're going in reverse.

00:26:03.000 So I think those are probably amongst the reasons why that super PAC did what it did publicly, as opposed to, as you pointed out, just conveying it privately.

00:26:11.000 So, there's been a lot of questioning, and in conservative circles, there was a lot of relief when Kamala Harris decided to go with Walls over Shapiro.

00:26:20.000 I think Shapiro would have been a much harder pick.

00:26:22.000 But maybe I'm wrong, and you came on our program and said, hey, you know, VPs don't move the dial nearly as much as some people believe they do.

00:26:30.000 Within the Democrat circles and the sourcing of the conversations you've been having, has the Walls pick been working for them?

00:26:37.000 Are they satisfied with his performance and the reception so far?

00:26:41.000 They are.

00:26:41.000 And Charlie, again, it's a very tribal thing, right?

00:26:44.000 They don't care that people have questioned his veracity on his DWI, on his military record.

00:26:51.000 They don't care because they feel impervious to that because the press is largely on their side on those things.

00:26:56.000 What they like about him is that he brings some of this cultural stuff.

00:27:01.000 You know, I can't remember if you and I talked about this last time, but if you just take some aspects of his bio, you know, a rural background from Nebraska, a coach, served a distinguished career in the military for a long period of time.

00:27:14.000 Those are biographical facts that not every Democrat has, right?

00:27:18.000 It's not a San Francisco Democrat or a Madison, Wisconsin or Brooklyn Democrat.

00:27:23.000 And so they like all that because they know that the party's maybe their biggest single challenge is to not be defined as super left-wing.

00:27:30.000 He does have a very liberal governing record, but those cultural things matter.

00:27:34.000 And the energy that the two of them have together, kind of like a buddy picture, Again, the Democrats are pretty enthusiastic about it.

00:27:41.000 I expect him to get a very big reception here in Chicago when he gives his speech, and on the road when he's done that solo event he did in Nebraska, for instance, and out in California, he's gotten a good reception.

00:27:51.000 So I think if you look at both the polling for the broader public and you look at the elites of the party, it's safe to say Democrats are at least as happy with Walz of the Ticket as Republicans are with J.D.

00:28:04.000 Vance, and it doesn't matter all that much, but it doesn't matter zero.

00:28:09.000 It's a fascinating world we live in, where we look at this as an outsider.

00:28:13.000 We say, boy, from the military service to the misleading about even the IVF thing that came out today.

00:28:20.000 But I guess they're digging in.

00:28:22.000 It's the new era of tribal politics, I assume.

00:28:26.000 So let me just, final question here, Mark, which I think is important.

00:28:29.000 I also want to tell the audience, please check out Two Way.

00:28:32.000 It's really great.

00:28:33.000 Two Way TV.

00:28:33.000 It's Two Way TV.

00:28:34.000 I ask this question of every person I see here that will talk to me, I'm not exactly a fan favorite here in Chicago, is do the Democrats in their own private discussions think they are going to win?

00:28:47.000 Charlie, I ask folks all the time and I don't have the highest level of human intelligence in the world, but after doing this for a while I have a pretty good sense.

00:28:55.000 I would say they are one notch above cautiously optimist.

00:28:59.000 It's not a sure thing from their point of view, but they're pretty confident.

00:29:03.000 And I'll tell you, if you're a student of Donald Trump, as you are and as I am, we don't agree with the Democratic analysis—I suspect you don't—that this is some new discombobulated version of Donald Trump, that he's lost his mind, that he's lost his bearings, that he's lost his capacity.

00:29:19.000 There are even some Democrats who go around saying he doesn't even want to win anymore.

00:29:23.000 I think they're misreading Trump and forgetting what Trump was like when he won in 2016.

00:29:27.000 But that's a big part of what's giving them confidence.

00:29:29.000 They really believe that the thing they've sort of talked about and wished for and speculated on for almost 10 years now—that Donald Trump's jig was going to be up—they really believe that's happened.

00:29:41.000 And that, I think, gives them as much confidence as anything, including the performance of Kamala Harris or the media support of Kamala Harris or anything else that they look to to be so optimistic.

00:29:52.000 They're pretty optimistic, and I would say again today, just objectively, talking as I do every day to people in both parties, they're the more optimistic side right now than the Republicans are.

00:30:03.000 Not by a lot, But sort of person to person, and you see this on my two-way platform talking to supporters of both sides, they've got a little bit more of the confidence right now.

00:30:11.000 And that's understandable because of the flow of the media coverage over the last couple weeks.

00:30:15.000 And I think President Trump is going to have his project clear coming out of this convention, headed into Labor Day.

00:30:22.000 And the debate is, he's got to get people back to thinking that he's the candidate and not her.

00:30:28.000 That's smart analysis.

00:30:29.000 Hard to disagree.

00:30:30.000 Almost every Democrat I've talked to said that.

00:30:32.000 We're gonna win and you guys are gonna lose.

00:30:33.000 I said, you might be right.

00:30:35.000 I'm not debating that part.

00:30:37.000 Mark, excellent work.

00:30:38.000 Check out Two Way TV.

00:30:39.000 Thank you so much.

00:30:41.000 Charlie, really appreciate it.

00:30:42.000 Great to see you.

00:30:42.000 And I'll see you in the hall.

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00:31:48.000 I'm gonna say this.

00:31:49.000 Ignore and make fun of AOC at your own peril.

00:31:53.000 I'm gonna say this right now.

00:31:54.000 In the next decade, she could be the presidential nominee for the Democrat Party. 0.75

00:32:00.000 Do you disagree with me, Jack?

00:32:05.000 They can't hear you, so just yes or no.

00:32:07.000 Okay.

00:32:09.000 AOC, I'm telling you, the base of the Democrat Party loves Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:32:16.000 Discount her at your own peril.

00:32:19.000 AOC yelling here, but again, it's easy to make fun of her. 0.83

00:32:22.000 She's got talent.

00:32:24.000 She's got talent.

00:32:24.000 She's got sass.

00:32:25.000 She understands the internet.

00:32:28.000 Let's play Cut 25.

00:32:31.000 And I, for one, am tired of hearing about how a two-bit union buster thinks of himself as more of a patriot than the woman who fights every single day to lift working people out from under the boots of greed, traveling on our way of life.

00:32:52.000 She had that place roaring. 0.97

00:32:54.000 Ignore her at your own peril.

00:32:56.000 She has real talent.

00:32:58.000 She brought that place to their feet. 0.99

00:33:00.000 Again, she's a communist.

00:33:02.000 I don't think she's particularly bright, but that doesn't mean anything.

00:33:05.000 You don't have to think deeply about issues to be good at politics.

00:33:08.000 And by the way, if the machine were to ever coalesce around Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, watch out.

00:33:13.000 Let's play cut 24 here.

00:33:16.000 AOC continues.

00:33:17.000 Play cut 24.

00:33:18.000 In Kamala Harris, we have a chance to elect a president who is for the middle class because she is from the middle class. 0.99

00:33:30.000 She understands the urgency of rent checks and groceries and prescriptions.

00:33:37.000 She is as committed to our reproductive and civil rights as she is to taking on corporate greed. 1.00

00:33:48.000 And she is working tirelessly to secure a ceasefire in Gaza and bringing hostages home.

00:33:57.000 I'm telling you, she could be the nominee.

00:34:00.000 In eight years, we could be seeing the AOC convention.

00:34:06.000 And as soon as Chuck U. Schumer steps down or Gillibrand, she will be a frontrunner for that Senate seat in New York. 0.93

00:34:12.000 J.D.

00:34:12.000 Vance was asked at a press conference today how he's prepping to debate Tim Walz.

00:34:17.000 Play Cut 55.

00:34:17.000 I'd like to know how you were prepping for a debate with Tim Walz, who has described himself as a bad debater.

00:34:24.000 Who's helping you, and how are you prepping?

00:34:27.000 Well, I found a good friend from back home who embellishes and lies a lot, and I'm having him stand in for Tim Walz.

00:34:32.000 That's what we're doing during our debate.

00:34:34.000 But look, all kidding aside, what we're going to do is we're going to focus a lot on policy.

00:34:41.000 The way that I'm trying to prepare is to try to make sure that we're prepared to answer the American people's questions on how we're going to make their lives better, how we're going to make their communities safer, how we're going to bring back prosperity and low prices to the American economy.

00:34:56.000 Perfect answer.

00:34:58.000 I'm telling you, that J.D.

00:34:59.000 Vance Walls debate is going to be very, very important.

00:35:02.000 He's got a great sense of humor.

00:35:03.000 He's quick on his feet.

00:35:04.000 He's sharp.

00:35:05.000 I want to play another piece of tape from last evening.

00:35:08.000 Do you notice?

00:35:09.000 Hillary did not get that many headlines.

00:35:12.000 Hillary, she got a couple things here and there.

00:35:15.000 She got more right-wing headlines than on the left.

00:35:19.000 You know that last night was about upholding the rule of law and they have Hillary Clinton speak? 1.00

00:35:23.000 No, they're just trolling us at this point.

00:35:25.000 Play cut 36.

00:35:27.000 By the way, before I play cut 36, President Trump should go down on Mount Rushmore for preventing this monster from becoming President of the United States.

00:35:37.000 Anytime you get mad at Donald Trump, anytime you want to say, oh, I wish he wouldn't, just say, ah, nope!

00:35:43.000 He's immune to criticism because he prevented this beast from becoming President.

00:35:48.000 Play cut 36.

00:35:48.000 The Constitution says the President's job is to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

00:36:00.000 Kamala cares.

00:36:02.000 Cares about kids and families.

00:36:04.000 Cares about America.

00:36:06.000 Donald only cares about himself.

00:36:09.000 So it is no surprise, is it, that he is lying about Kamala's record?

00:36:15.000 He's mocking her name and her laugh.

00:36:18.000 Sounds familiar.

00:36:20.000 But we have him on the run now.

00:36:24.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:26.000 Third hour coming up.

00:36:27.000 Again, praise God that Donald Trump prevented Hildebeest from becoming President of the United States.

00:36:35.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:36.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 20, 2024

What Democrats Say In Secret at the DNC

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