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00:02:13.000Talk about the mission statement of your organization first, creating alliances for drug-free youth.
00:02:19.000Yeah, so CAFI came out, grew out of the parent movement in the early 80s, and it was created as an advocacy group to deal with policy that supported youth.
00:02:34.000You know, at the UN, they certainly have a number of treaties, but one of the treaties is the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
00:02:40.000And what that convention says is that children have rights, they have human rights, they have the right not to be sold into slavery, pushed into prostitution, they have the right to an education, health care, all of that stuff.
00:03:57.000But all that's blown away because the concentrates are at, just a few years ago they were at 60%.
00:04:04.000The National Marijuana Initiative out of the high-intensity drug trafficking area just did a conference and they announced it was up to 99% THC content.
00:04:15.000When you look at Dr. Daryl Inaba, he was the co-founder of the Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic, who was against legalization.
00:04:24.000He said, John, in 1985, Before that we didn't have addiction to marijuana.
00:04:30.000By then, which was only five percent, four to five percent average, he said I had a hundred people a month come into my clinic addicted to marijuana.
00:04:41.000But we're told that it's not chemically addictive.
00:04:44.000Oh, it's absolutely chemically addictive, especially as that potency increases.
00:04:50.000Meaning, chemically addictive, they mean it doesn't create bonds like cocaine does, but meaning you still will form an addictive type of attachment to the substance.
00:06:05.000But it's not being treated the same because it's being introduced into states Through corporate greed, through the initiative process, like in Florida currently.
00:07:39.000So, like, for example, a 14-year-old at Scottsdale High School here, down the street, they're still getting marijuana.
00:07:46.000Are they getting it passed down through somebody buying at a dispenser getting to them, or is there another black market that they're getting the marijuana from?
00:09:59.000It actually creates anxiety, it creates depression.
00:10:02.000As a matter of fact, we now have studies that show that marijuana increases early on stage psychosis and schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.
00:10:16.000You get marijuana at that high THC content, you've got some mental health issues.
00:10:20.000Back to the really quick about the lacing.
00:10:23.000So we were told that the lacing market would disappear when legalization occurred, but there's more lacing than ever.
00:10:30.000Well, yes, there's lacing with fentanyl and other drugs.
00:10:33.000Because we were told that legalization will at least make drug usage safe.
00:10:36.000Yes, that hasn't happened because there's no real way to regulate.
00:10:40.000As a matter of fact, they took all of that, the ability for law enforcement to deal with that issue.
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00:11:47.000You've got to check out his website, CADFY.org.
00:11:51.000Just an interesting historical nugget to emphasize for a second here, which is you mentioned prohibition.
00:11:57.000What led to prohibition and what happened during it?
00:12:01.000What led to prohibition was the United States had a problem.
00:14:04.000Let's talk about the actual substance as it is, marijuana, which some people have, as you mentioned, a multi-decade-old view of what pot is, saying, oh, it makes a little high, not a big deal, might as well legalize it.
00:14:19.000What other potential health negative outcomes are we seeing broadly because of the overusage of marijuana?
00:14:27.000Well, first of all, in terms of the plant, we have to recognize that there are over 70 cannabinoids within the marijuana plant, like THC, like CBD, and there's others that we don't know about and what they do.
00:14:39.000Certainly THC has been researched a lot, and CBD, but what do the others do?
00:14:45.000And we are finding out, one of the issues with the World Health Organization, they were trying to take it off the The scheduling and put it into the same level as as vitamins and They were saying CBD is benign.
00:15:02.000Well, it isn't it has a lot of problems in terms of sleep disorders upset stomach dizziness a number of issues but under the FDA in terms of the research of CBD and GW Pharmaceuticals has gone through the FDA to create a medication with the FDA's approval and one of the things that they found out within their clinical trials was there was 10% of their patients were getting toxicity levels within the liver.
00:15:33.000If you're going to a doctor under a clinical situation, that's fine because you can run lab tests and find out and adjust, but you're not going to do that through marijuana as a commodity where you have CBD and in office water that they're selling out in the strip mall.
00:15:53.000There isn't a regulation to that, and there are side effects.
00:15:57.000So what do you have to say to then the people who say, okay, let's legalize it and then create a Bureau of Marijuana Transparency like we do with liquor?
00:16:06.000Well, you're going to have to do that through the federal government.
00:16:08.000You're not going to do that through states because they don't have the research doctors, the lab technicians, the calibrations, the machinery.
00:16:33.000The question then becomes, are we going to treat it like alcohol and tobacco as a commodity, or are we going to treat it like a medication?
00:16:40.000That's the first conversation that we should have.
00:16:43.000They say that states were going to treat it like a medication, and they haven't.
00:16:52.000We have one of the most tightly regulated drug regulation systems in the world, and yet still we've had problems with that, which we're able to resolve, like the opioid crisis, the pill mills and stuff in Florida, but we're not even having those conversations on marijuana.
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00:18:19.000Walk us through the ballot initiatives that we are seeing in these states.
00:18:22.000Yeah, you know, I've been out of that for a while, about six years, but I was asked to go back because Florida was looking at it, and so they have Amendment 3.
00:18:31.000I see the whole ballot initiative process is flawed.
00:20:36.000If you take a look at the tobacco industry, their model was, and through the Master Settlement Agreement, which there was a whistleblower that found out the tobacco industry, they were absolutely targeting youth because the younger you can get somebody to use, the more likely they are to be addicted.
00:20:55.000If you can get them to not use up until age 25, where the brain is fully formed, you have a 95% chance that they'll never be addicted because they'll never use.
00:21:07.000So that's the model from the tobacco industry.
00:21:09.000The model from the alcohol industry is, for example, there's eight times the liquor stores in minority communities, in African-American communities, and in white communities.
00:22:16.000There were a number of agents that came down, did certain classes while I was at the Haida.
00:22:20.000I'm still there, but not in that capacity.
00:22:22.000But they were, in Washington State and in Oregon, that they were pushing for that and also the And there was one person that was there that he had a grow there.
00:23:08.000So he became a target of that as well as people who've had farms up in the Green Triangle up in California.
00:23:20.000People come in and say, hey, you know, we want to give you six figures to grow marijuana.
00:23:24.000They're all in suits, but the people that come to grow is not.
00:23:28.000And they're pushing people, people five generations in their farm, they're leaving.
00:23:32.000It's changing the very nature of that.
00:23:35.000And the farmers, you know, that have kids on there, they're coming to school laced with THC.
00:23:45.000And one of the clinical child psychiatrists had to go to the school to come up with a system where they had to keep their winter parkas and their backpacks outside so that they didn't come into the classroom.
00:24:03.000So, you've been in this space for a while.
00:24:05.000Just remind our audience your biography and why you're such an advocate for kids not getting addicted to drugs.
00:24:12.000Yeah, I was in the entertainment business for 20 years and the more and more that I was moving up the ladder and producing, I wasn't with my family and I just answered an ad and it was for this coalition dealing with drug prevention and it was housed at the high-intensity drug trafficking area.
00:24:35.000And they had a small part, 5% of what they did was in that HIDTA.
00:24:41.000Each HIDTA, there are 32 HIDTAs in the country.
00:24:44.000It's out of the Federal Government Office of National Drug Control Policy, a program out of that.
00:24:50.000And they asked me to take over their program, so I did.
00:24:53.000And then, you know, it started to expand.
00:24:57.000The drug czar at the time came through and saw what we were doing and at the National Haida meeting he said, I want everyone to do what John's doing in San Diego.
00:25:06.000So it just kind of expanded in that way.
00:25:11.000We were bringing in unlikely partners that normally law enforcement didn't bring in.
00:25:18.000We were bringing in the African-American community, African-American bishops that had problems and having them sit down with law enforcement.
00:25:26.000In a way that they had never talked before.
00:25:28.000You know, medical doctors, schools, communities.
00:25:33.000That's what the Safe and Drug-Free Schools and Communities Act was all about.
00:25:38.000That Joe Biden signed, but I haven't seen any care about that since.
00:25:44.000Out of his administration, I think that we need to get back to that coalition, that community work that we can bring people together and partner them with law enforcement and really make a difference.
00:25:56.000You say here we have a profound responsibility to support sound drug policy that will explicitly protect our youth.
00:26:21.000That went away in the 80s, and today it's certainly not true.
00:26:25.000And the facts about it I don't think are being put out very well and that's why I get on as many shows as possible to let people know this is the reality.
00:26:37.000So why is it, is this also a failure of parenting too?
00:26:41.000It seems parents are completely indifferent about their kids doing drugs.
00:26:45.000You know, I certainly think that parents need to be more involved in their kids.
00:26:50.000I have two girls, and I was very involved in their lives.
00:26:56.000And there's always a time, usually around middle school, where they start to talk, and they want to push you away, but that's when you've got to be closer.
00:27:05.000So, yeah, I think parents need to be more involved.
00:27:07.000But also, you know, remember, they're at school eight hours a day, and then we get them four hours in the evening.
00:27:43.000In an ideal world, what laws would you like to see passed to help solve this?
00:27:49.000I'd like to see the commodity part, treating marijuana as a commodity, pulled back to the beginning.
00:27:59.000Whether that's possible or not, I think that's what it should do.
00:28:04.000We'll continue to look at some pretty profound possibilities in terms of the FDA-regulated cannabis medications.
00:28:15.000There's some real good things that are coming out in terms of neurological disorders and may go on to muscular dystrophy or multiple sclerosis.
00:28:27.000Certainly Dravet syndrome, epilepsy in youth.
00:28:30.000I'm very excited about that, but then handling it and turning it over to corporations that are actually sitting at the table creating the regulations and the policies once those policies are passed.
00:28:45.000That doesn't happen in the alcohol industry or the tobacco industry.
00:28:48.000It certainly happens now because we're not having those nuanced conversations.
00:28:53.000Yeah, because we're legislating by bumper sticker.
00:31:10.000Well, you know, I was looking to scale down as I got older and some of the work that I was doing.
00:31:19.000And I thought in 2017 I wasn't going to do the UN stuff anymore.
00:31:25.000And someone called me up and said, John, in 2016 they're looking to do something.
00:31:30.000I don't know what it is, but we need you to go there.
00:31:32.000And I'm like, I'm not doing that anymore.
00:31:34.000But I went ahead and then I saw, I heard some rumbles and then it came out that the UN was taking a look and trying to review marijuana as how it matched to the drug conventions.
00:31:51.000And one of the things they said was they did six issues that they were putting out.
00:31:58.000None of them were very good, but the fifth issue was to take CBD, move it out of the schedule, and put it on the shelves just like vitamins, but allow 2% THC as an adulterant in there.
00:32:16.000And they said that that was because of the research that GW Pharmaceuticals was doing.