The Charlie Kirk Show - September 02, 2025


What Gen Z Thinks About Israel — Thoughts From Our SAS Focus Group


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What do young people think about Israel? What do they think about the rise in anti-Israel hate in the media, and what does it mean for the future of the country? We asked Turning Point USA students, and they had some thoughts.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin dot com studio.
00:00:04.000 What do young people think about Israel?
00:00:06.000 Israel has a disproportionate amount of time and attention in our media.
00:00:11.000 So I thought we'd go straight to our Turning Point USA students and ask them what they think about Israel?
00:00:17.000 Are they supportive?
00:00:18.000 Are they against?
00:00:19.000 What do they think of all this rise in this disgusting, repulsive Jew hate? 0.99
00:00:23.000 We moderate a focus group at our Turning Point USA event in Tampa, Florida.
00:00:28.000 I think you'll love it.
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00:00:38.000 We go.
00:00:39.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:40.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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00:00:49.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:50.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:51.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:00:53.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:00.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:09.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:12.000 See, we're going to play a word association test.
00:01:14.000 What's the first word that comes to mind when you hear Israel?
00:01:16.000 Judy is aid Aid. 0.50
00:01:17.000 Netanyahu.
00:01:18.000 Tax dollars.
00:01:19.000 Liability.
00:01:20.000 Sacred.
00:01:20.000 Tax dollars.
00:01:21.000 Conflict.
00:01:22.000 Complex.
00:01:22.000 Controversial.
00:01:23.000 Scary.
00:01:24.000 Strategic.
00:01:24.000 Mossad.
00:01:25.000 So Mossad, of all the different things that would come to mind, why does their intelligence service come to mind?
00:01:32.000 Reminds me of the CIA.
00:01:33.000 You know, it has the CIA, you have the CIA involved with RFK.
00:01:38.000 I mean, there's rumors going around.
00:01:39.000 Maybe Mossad was a part of the EFSA files.
00:01:41.000 Maybe Mossad was a part of things that we don't know about.
00:01:44.000 And they're a, just like the Central Intelligence Agency, they are out there doing things that none of us know about.
00:01:52.000 So to say Mossad first, that would basically imply your first impression is one of doubt.
00:01:58.000 Is that fair to say?
00:01:59.000 Yes.
00:02:00.000 Okay.
00:02:00.000 When you hear like Epstein, right, do you connect the Epstein issue initially, like immediately, like first connection in your mind, that's also connected to Mossad and Israel, or is they feel separate in your mind?
00:02:12.000 I think there's a growing consensus that there's a connection there among Gen Z. Yeah, I think that's definitely gaining velocity. 0.56
00:02:17.000 Who used the word aid?
00:02:19.000 You did.
00:02:19.000 Why did that come to mind first?
00:02:25.000 We're sending a lot of money over there, not really getting, in my opinion, a huge return on investment.
00:02:31.000 And so that's like the first thing that comes to mind, because when people talk about their distrust or disappointment with Israel, that's the first thing that usually comes up, all the money that we're sending them.
00:02:42.000 I think we have a lot bigger issues at home.
00:02:44.000 I think we should be spending most of our tax dollars on securing our border, keeping our home people safe, rather than, I mean, we've seen illegal immigration that Joe Biden let through our southern border come in and we've seen thousands of Americans die because of it.
00:02:57.000 I think we have a much bigger problem on the home front rather than sending money to foreign countries.
00:03:01.000 I think it's critical that we remain friends with them.
00:03:05.000 They remain our ally.
00:03:06.000 I just don't think we should be subsidizing them as much as we are.
00:03:08.000 When you talk about return on investment, I think that's an interesting way to frame it.
00:03:13.000 The supporters of Israel will say they're doing a lot of America's dirty work from intelligence gathering, things like that.
00:03:20.000 Within the Middle East, is that convincing to you?
00:03:23.000 Are you persuaded by that argument?
00:03:25.000 The reason why I'm not super persuaded is especially it's mostly because of here recently, we were kind of droughed into it.
00:03:32.000 We were negotiating, we were having negotiations and then they struck, they killed the people we were negotiating with and it kind of derailed everything and sped up the conflict a little bit.
00:03:43.000 It was the State Department's declared goal that we were working on negotiations with Iran.
00:03:49.000 You can say they wouldn't have panned out.
00:03:52.000 You can say that maybe they were imminently about to collapse, but we were still in active negotiation, and yet Israel launches Operation Rising Lion to go in and strike Iran while we are mid-negotiation.
00:04:08.000 How many of you guys would say you think Israel got us into that conflict?
00:04:13.000 You would say yes.
00:04:14.000 You would not say so much?
00:04:16.000 I think we were willing to join that conflict.
00:04:17.000 I don't think we were pulled in unwantingly as if we were dragged by a leash, you know, in more uncertain terms.
00:04:23.000 I think we have the authority and the say of whether or not we want to be involved in that conflict.
00:04:27.000 And I think we saw the prosperity that we would unleash if we joined the conflict.
00:04:31.000 When you think about Israel's history in the region and even with Hamas or Iran, these nations have sworn to destroy and annihilate the nation of Israel, right? 0.89
00:04:43.000 At what point does it become, given the context, at what point are you going to be okay or would you never be okay with the U.S. defending Israel's right to exist and essentially saving the country?
00:04:54.000 I think they absolutely, I mean, first and foremost, they have a right to exist.
00:04:58.000 They have a right to defend themselves.
00:05:00.000 That's not my issue with it.
00:05:03.000 I can kind of give an analogy is that our house is burning down.
00:05:08.000 And so is our neighbors, and we're trying to put their fire out before we put ours out.
00:05:12.000 That's kind of how I view it.
00:05:14.000 So when you guys find out, and I don't know if you're aware of this, but when you find out that we're basically every year we send about almost $4 billion to Israel, does that make you upset, or do you understand it given that they're under sort of crisis?
00:05:27.000 ongoing.
00:05:28.000 I would say upset and the amount over since 1948, it amounts to $319 billion adjusted to inflation.
00:05:35.000 And I'd say that I can think of multiple things that we could have spent at home that would have been a better allocation of our taxpayer dollars.
00:05:42.000 And I feel like this money could have been well spent in supporting an economy that would support our generation being able to afford homes rather than military strikes for Israel.
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00:06:55.000 What else?
00:06:56.000 What would you want to see from their government?
00:06:59.000 If their government came out and said, we have a five-year plan to decouple.
00:07:03.000 from USAID.
00:07:04.000 Would that help people's view of Israel if they said, hey, we want to be self-reliant?
00:07:08.000 Yes.
00:07:09.000 Absolutely.
00:07:10.000 Do you think that would help?
00:07:10.000 Yes.
00:07:11.000 If they're like, thank you for the help since 1948.
00:07:13.000 We're a rich country.
00:07:14.000 We've balanced our budget.
00:07:16.000 We have money in our sovereign wealth fund, which they actually do.
00:07:19.000 Thank you.
00:07:20.000 We're now going to decouple over the next five years and basically transition.
00:07:24.000 Do you think that people would think higher of Israel?
00:07:26.000 At least we stopped talking about it so much.
00:07:29.000 Would you put that like as a primary?
00:07:31.000 Yes.
00:07:31.000 Yeah.
00:07:32.000 I would say like that can kind of follow up with a lot of other things.
00:07:34.000 Like a lot of other like even European nations, like I feel like they were kind of like even Trump had to like kind of even out NATO so that everyone was kind of paying the same, not the same amount, obviously, five percent.
00:07:45.000 Yeah.
00:07:45.000 But it just because like nobody wants a, no, a lot of Americans do not want people freeloading off the United States.
00:07:51.000 And as you said, 319 billion being sent to Israel over all these years, that's comparable to the amount we've sent to Ukraine.
00:07:57.000 And there's been a lot of controversy over that, and yet not as much over Israel.
00:08:01.000 And people are judged very heavily if they critique that aid that is given to Israel.
00:08:05.000 I think I'm pro Israel, I support them.
00:08:08.000 I believe Israel has a right to exist.
00:08:10.000 I believe that they are the only state in that region with the right to exist.
00:08:13.000 But why are we treating them differently than any other ally?
00:08:16.000 Shouldn't we be judging them, holding them to the same standard.
00:08:19.000 Your view is articulated by a lot of young people and held by a lot of young people.
00:08:23.000 Because let's now take a step back and let's now broaden it.
00:08:27.000 How many of you guys think when a lawmaker and a man I respect like Ted Cruz uses the Bible to justify aid to Israel doesn't even know the verse, do you guys think that's like not the best way to approach this?
00:08:41.000 Raise your hand.
00:08:42.000 Okay.
00:08:42.000 I think Ted Cruz used Genesis 12:3.
00:08:44.000 I think a lot of people see that as off-putting when you look at the New Testament.
00:08:47.000 Why?
00:08:48.000 Because I think a lot of people, they look especially at the writings of Paul where he talks about how the new flesh is not the same as the people in the old covenant.
00:08:55.000 The new flesh is everybody, is everyone thinking about Romans 9.
00:08:59.000 Yes.
00:08:59.000 96.
00:09:00.000 Are you Catholic?
00:09:01.000 Converting to Catholic from that point of view.
00:09:03.000 This is my next question.
00:09:04.000 Oh, from Judaism? 0.97
00:09:04.000 Yes. 0.97
00:09:05.000 Oh, wow.
00:09:06.000 So you're Jew, you're ethnically Jewish.
00:09:08.000 Ethnically Jewish, yes.
00:09:09.000 And you have concerns about APAC.
00:09:10.000 Yes, I do.
00:09:11.000 I'm told that by some people, that if I criticize APAC, I'm anti-Semitic.
00:09:16.000 I think it's ridiculous.
00:09:18.000 I feel like it's great to have a concern for your country.
00:09:20.000 Do you think that APAC represents Again, I'm not saying I believe this, but I think this is what you're saying, that it represents a kind of cutting in line of prioritization away from the American people.
00:09:35.000 Yes.
00:09:35.000 Would you guys say that's a fair summary?
00:09:37.000 100%.
00:09:37.000 Meaning that, like, okay, we vote, we're citizens, but a separate group gets higher priority because of whatever reasons.
00:09:47.000 You look like you want to chime in.
00:09:49.000 That the entirety of the idea of a PAC is to represent a group, but the fact that we're having, we're allowing a group that doesn't even represent American interests to influence the people who are supposed to be representing us, I have a huge problem with.
00:10:02.000 And that's why I've said this before, and a lot of people don't like when I say it.
00:10:05.000 I actually think there's probably like twenty representatives between Senate and House who I think are actually fully doing the work of the American people and don't have the interests of some group holding their side.
00:10:17.000 But when you hear that lots of other countries also are lobbying, do you think, I mean, that you probably don't know the names of those countries, but it's happening.
00:10:27.000 Does that upset you equally or is APAC just getting all the press because it's so top of mind?
00:10:33.000 If those other ones are doing the same thing, of course, I do not think that other countries should be telling us how to spend, you know, the telling our representatives and people who are here to represent all of us that they should be focusing outside of the United States.
00:10:49.000 America first.
00:10:50.000 Thank you.
00:10:51.000 I find prophecy as policy generally to be the to be theologically problematic.
00:10:56.000 I mean, there's plenty of things that the Bible says that have been done throughout parts of history that certainly a nation state doing today, we would see as a bit of a problem.
00:11:04.000 When it comes to sending these, what you said, $300 billion to any foreign country, all I can think about is across our own southern border, we have a real military in the form of the cartel that kill thousands of people, and that's leaving out the hundreds of thousands of Americans that have died to drug overdoses due to drugs that have come across our southern border.
00:11:28.000 And it's insulting that that money goes anywhere else because we have such a huge problem here.
00:11:31.000 Yeah, I want to kind of flip this word association game around just slightly because we haven't done it yet.
00:11:37.000 When I bring up Gaza, Gazans, Hamas, let's just keep Hamas out of it. 0.93
00:11:43.000 Gaza and Gaza.
00:11:45.000 What comes to mind?
00:11:46.000 Complicated.
00:11:48.000 Life.
00:11:48.000 Destruction.
00:11:49.000 I'd say differences.
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00:12:53.000 What is the impression that you guys have of what's been happening in Gaza?
00:12:57.000 It doesn't have to be a singular word.
00:12:58.000 I would say like a severe loss of life.
00:13:00.000 I feel like that's always a bad thing, no matter which way you look at it, no matter who's, I mean, yeah, basically no matter who's dying, it's never really a good thing.
00:13:06.000 It's not good.
00:13:08.000 It's not good.
00:13:08.000 It's good.
00:13:14.000 or death and destruction, you're... 0.55
00:13:17.000 Is that getting fed into your algorithms a lot?
00:13:19.000 Yes.
00:13:19.000 And actually on our school's campus, they'll have these little missing kid posters and in those posters, they, you'll read about these kids who have died, to, You know, they try to have us to have more sympathy for them.
00:13:33.000 And it's like, at the end of the day, as you had mentioned, you know, they are humans.
00:13:37.000 We already have sympathy for them.
00:13:38.000 So on campus, now let's do something we haven't done.
00:13:41.000 Has there been any awareness for the Israeli hostages?
00:13:44.000 Is that no.
00:13:46.000 I think that's also important to talk about, right?
00:13:48.000 Or the 1200 plus that were massacred that day.
00:13:51.000 Yeah, the 1200, I mean, nearly 1300.
00:13:53.000 So that's a factor because I think we need to have a balanced conversation about it.
00:13:58.000 Word Association game.
00:14:00.000 One issue you wish we were focused on instead of Israel, what would it be?
00:14:04.000 I have to say, continue on the border.
00:14:06.000 Border.
00:14:07.000 Deportations.
00:14:08.000 Housing.
00:14:10.000 Families.
00:14:11.000 How many of you guys at least get the impression that Israel matters more than having young people be able to own homes?
00:14:19.000 Raise your hand.
00:14:20.000 It's divide and conquer.
00:14:22.000 We can do a lot of things.
00:14:22.000 This is why there's so many cabinet secretaries.
00:14:25.000 This is why we have a government that can do a lot of things.
00:14:28.000 It's because we can focus on foreign stuff and we can also focus on domestic stuff.
00:14:32.000 I personally am pretty all right with a lot of what we have been doing, but I do understand where a lot of Gen Z is coming from with a lot of this because, like I said, we can't buy homes. 0.98
00:14:41.000 We can't afford anything.
00:14:43.000 We can't really afford anything.
00:14:44.000 Do you guys see Jew hate increasing amongst your generation?
00:14:48.000 I think that there's a lot of collusion between criticism and hate.
00:14:52.000 I think that there is legitimate hate out there, but a lot of criticism is being framed as hatred or you don't support this because you're criticizing it.
00:15:01.000 And that's like, I think that's a little inseparable from what the Jewish hate is.
00:15:06.000 Do you guys think it's anti Semitic to say you don't like BB Netanyahu?
00:15:10.000 No.
00:15:11.000 No, I don't believe so.
00:15:13.000 There is a rise of Jew hate, but it's not the majority mover.
00:15:16.000 I think the majority mover of Gen Z and Gen Z conservatives is exhaustion.
00:15:21.000 Precisely.
00:15:21.000 Would you guys think that's a fair categorization?
00:15:24.000 Yes, for sure.
00:15:25.000 Again, there is like an isolated, like, weirdo, I hate Jews. 1.00
00:15:28.000 We don't like that.
00:15:30.000 No one in decent society wants that.
00:15:32.000 But instead, it's kind of like, can we just, I don't know, make it so I can buy a home?
00:15:36.000 Or like, deport people?
00:15:38.000 Yeah.
00:15:40.000 Does that resonate with you?
00:15:41.000 Oh, yeah, exactly.
00:15:42.000 You're not anti-Israel.
00:15:43.000 You don't wish them harm.
00:15:45.000 You're not, you know, like cheering on Iran.
00:15:47.000 No, I support Israel.
00:15:49.000 I think they're our ally.
00:15:50.000 I want them.
00:15:50.000 But you would be called an anti-Semite by some people for saying this.
00:15:54.000 And I think that's ridiculous.
00:15:55.000 I don't hate Jews because I think a nation should defend themselves.
00:15:58.000 Exactly.
00:15:59.000 Like, I think that's the most becoming like the word racism.
00:16:04.000 Like we just disagree with them, so we just have to call them a name.
00:16:08.000 I don't think they're actually anti-Semitic.
00:16:10.000 I think people just can't agree with them and they can't prove them wrong.
00:16:13.000 So they just throw a word out and be like, you're anti-Semitic because you think that we should stop sending our money there.
00:16:19.000 Something that I see amongst the people around, I do see more like general disdain towards, I mean, just being honest, Jewish people.
00:16:25.000 That's correct.
00:16:26.000 Just because...
00:16:30.000 And it's like, fine.
00:16:31.000 If you're going to say I hate Jews over and over and over again, like if I'm going to be convicted of the crime, I might as well do the crime. 0.97
00:16:37.000 I fear the same thing happens with all the talk of race.
00:16:40.000 The more we talk about it, the more racism actually happens.
00:16:45.000 This is like I try to tell.
00:16:46.000 Thank you for saying this.
00:16:47.000 Because like this is I try to tell these people and they're like, we must get more aggressive.
00:16:52.000 And so, like, let me ask a question.
00:16:54.000 If we were to say if we were to remove like if people said what Tucker said is anti-Semitic, I don't hold that view.
00:17:00.000 But it's like a lot of people on Twitter are like calling us out and like whatever.
00:17:04.000 That's not going to happen.
00:17:06.000 um if we were to cancel tucker would antisemitism increase or decrease?
00:17:12.000 I think increase because that means any supporter of Tucker Carlson's statement therefore makes them antisemitic.
00:17:18.000 It is.
00:17:18.000 I said, like, I said, association, 100%.
00:17:21.000 But the binary that's presented is that if you don't passionately talk about it, you are a hater.
00:17:29.000 That's probably destructive for everybody involved.
00:17:32.000 So for me, I'm trying to find this new path, which is I love Israel.
00:17:36.000 I visited there.
00:17:37.000 My wife and I had the best experiences ever.
00:17:39.000 I saw where Jesus rose from the dead and he walked on water.
00:17:41.000 But also, I'm an American and I represent a generation that can't afford anything and that we are like flooded with illegals and no one speaks English and our hospitals are clogged. 1.00
00:17:53.000 I think we need to have the prudence to reject the Jew hate like okay we're not going to put up with that that's dumb but also if you call everyone an antisemite if they don't take a puritanical view of the Netanyahu government then I think that's it's bad for everybody If you guys have private student loan debt, this is the best way out.
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00:19:13.000 So would you guys all basically safe to say, wel, welcome us not talking about Israel nearly as much.
00:19:19.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:19:20.000 100%.
00:19:21.000 A cope that is often found in broken institutions.
00:19:25.000 And I've found this now over thirteen years.
00:19:26.000 It's a great truism.
00:19:27.000 You guys will learn it for the rest of your life.
00:19:29.000 Anyone that tells you we have a messaging problem, you should go a step deeper and ask another question.
00:19:37.000 Being like, what are you actually doing something wrong or are you bad at messaging it?
00:19:42.000 Because people that are doing bad stuff will sometimes be like, well, we're just not presenting it correctly.
00:19:46.000 Sometimes that's true.
00:19:48.000 Or sometimes there actually might be something beneath the surface that you're not doing well.
00:19:52.000 So do you guys think that it's a messaging problem?
00:19:54.000 problem or that it's a like an actual material concept problem it's a values and priorities problem yeah it's definitely a messaging problem these politicians they don't need to be car salesmen you know we need we need the truth we need the direct truth and nothing but the truth but these politicians they're not they're not truthful you know they're digging gen z down in the dirt who represents you best outside of trump Well, thank you.
00:20:17.000 That's great.
00:20:18.000 And I don't do that just for the sake of it either.
00:20:20.000 I mean, you're here involving us for a reason because we are the important group.
00:20:24.000 We're going to inherit all of these issues.
00:20:26.000 So.
00:20:27.000 No, again, again, the reason I'm doing this is that the reason we're doing this focus group, and Andrew will attest., I have been trying to tell them that there is an earthquake coming on this issue and in the country, and they don't believe me.
00:20:40.000 So I'm like, why don't you just hear it from people themselves?
00:20:44.000 If we don't get young conservatives in, we're going to end up losing to the Democratic Party because they're starting to get the younger generation involved within their representation.
00:20:53.000 And it's just, if we don't start getting these young people from our generation or the next generation above us into Congress, then we're going to start losing.
00:21:03.000 When this debate pops up on your social media feed or on campus, what is the most persuasive pro-Israel point that you have seen or heard.
00:21:14.000 Talk about more about how they help us with intelligence, especially with this new conflict with Iran.
00:21:19.000 If you want to use that, say like, Hey, Israel is very helpful in us deflecting with Iran and giving us influence over them because we can have more intelligence. 0.93
00:21:27.000 Do you find it persuasive when the Israeli tourism board is bragging about how many gay pride parades they have in Tel Aviv?
00:21:35.000 No.
00:21:35.000 Does that make you more pro-Israel?
00:21:38.000 No.
00:21:38.000 So what else is persuasive for you?
00:21:41.000 I would try to educate about Islamic terrorism.
00:21:45.000 I think that's major, especially with the fact that we lived through 911, I think a lot of people in my generation don't understand how big of a situation it was.
00:21:55.000 We know nothing about it, for the most part.
00:21:58.000 I think maybe one other point maybe is about the Holy Land as well.
00:22:01.000 You could make a point going to the Holy Land, filming videos and saying, Israel is a better protector of the Holy Land than if there was a Palestinian state. 0.86
00:22:06.000 The argument I make more than anything else.
00:22:08.000 You're going to follow up on that.
00:22:10.000 That's my biggest argument.
00:22:11.000 Keep on.
00:22:11.000 When the United States is like a mostly Christian country, not all Christian obviously, but a mostly Christian country, a lot of people can sympathize that that is the Holy Land.
00:22:19.000 That is where Jesus Christ lived and was crucified.
00:22:21.000 And rose from the dead.
00:22:22.000 Yes, sir.
00:22:23.000 Islamic terrorism is that's a better messaging because it kind of connects Israel. 0.55
00:22:28.000 It's a threat to Israel and the United States together at the same time. 0.99
00:22:33.000 So it brings it home to people.
00:22:35.000 One of the conversations we've had is that this holy land thing, there is a hunger for the holy land, for the old things.
00:22:43.000 the old things, the ancient things.
00:22:44.000 I think so much of modern life feels very transient, new.
00:22:48.000 And also just the stability of it for being there for two thousand years.
00:22:51.000 And also the fact that it's really just been the bedrock of traditionalism.
00:22:54.000 And I think you talked about in your speech about how there's a lot of liberal evangelical churches.
00:22:57.000 So it's like, how can I get to a more traditional style of life?
00:23:01.000 I mean, I'm Catholic tooholic.
00:23:04.000 And one of the biggest things that I do like is that Israel holds the roots of a lot of Western religion.
00:23:12.000 And that it is critical for us as Americans to keep them.
00:23:18.000 So this is very important, and we're going to have to close here, is that American evangelicals tend to be very pro-Israel.
00:23:24.000 Younger Catholics tend to not be.
00:23:26.000 But what you're both doing, you know, soon to be Catholic, current Catholic, you're saying that, hey, if you talked more about the Holy Land, the place.
00:23:36.000 reality, the artefacts, right, the discoveries, the where Christ our Lord bled on, you know, on, you know, in the Catholic Church, the Villa de la Rosa is a big deal, right?
00:23:48.000 It's huge.
00:23:49.000 The Stations of the Cross, Catholicism is a very tactile religion.
00:23:53.000 You would think that that actually is more persuasive than any theological argument being like, this holy land must be protected so that we can access it, that we can worship it, that we can prove, and we don't want a bunch of Muslims taking this place over like they did with Bethlehem. 1.00
00:24:07.000 Do you think that is a winning argument for evangelicals, for Christians, more so than gay pride parades in Haifa?
00:24:16.000 Absolutely, absolutely.
00:24:17.000 100%.
00:24:18.000 Thank you guys for your time.
00:24:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:24:25.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:24:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.