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00:01:16.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:28.000I'm very excited to talk to you about a new book that is coming out this month from my dear friend, a great American, and one of my top mentors, Jim Holden.
00:01:36.000He's a best-selling author, a member of the Turning Point Endowment, and a very clear thinker.
00:01:43.000Selling in an Anxious World is Jim's fifth book on selling strategies and best practices.
00:01:48.000This time, Jim brings together research science and observation to identify the leading cause of declining business-to-business sales, also known as corporate culture.
00:01:58.000I had the great honor of contributing to a chapter of Selling in an Anxious World through my work with Turning Point.
00:02:04.000I'm in a unique position to observe academic culture within our colleges and relate it to the corporate world, particularly its impact on company culture.
00:02:12.000In today's world, good company culture requires vigilant protection, which is why this book is so timely and a must-read for business people, sellers, patriots, and Christians.
00:02:22.000Selling in an Anxious World combines research from extensive deal reviews, examples from Jim's personal life, and Bible references to shine a light on culture, presenting an unconventional guide to solving an unconventional problem.
00:02:35.000You'll get quick access to whatever topics are important to you through chapter summaries and reference guides.
00:02:41.000Jim Holden's book is not like any other business book out there.
00:03:09.000I'm old enough to remember when Donald Trump signed a bunch of executive orders, random judges from Hawaii used to overturn everything he did.
00:03:16.000Where's our random judges from Alabama just saying, nope, you can't do that, can't do that.
00:03:20.000I guess we have to sue and then the judge could intervene.
00:03:23.000But we do have the AG from Texas saying that he issued a statement saying that he was going to stand up against federal overreach, but that's TBD.
00:03:48.000I am a political opponent of yours, and I'll remain a critic of yours.
00:03:53.000I'll praise you if you ever do anything right.
00:03:55.000But you say you want to unify the country.
00:03:58.000And the only thing that we ask out of you is that you both privately and publicly state that those of us that are conservative grassroots organizers that have a different philosophical view of how to bring this country, different political view to bring this country, that we are not people that are worthy of perpetual surveillance, infiltration, and a domestic war on terror against us.
00:04:26.000That would be my complete and total message.
00:04:29.000And mind you, could you imagine if President Trump back in June said that we need a new domestic war on terror against Black Lives Matter, BLM Incorporated?
00:04:44.000Remember what happened to Senator Tom Cotton when he recommended or suggested President Trump sign the Insurrection Act to go against BLM Incorporated rioters, and some would call them, based on the new way we do definitions in this country, domestic terrorists.
00:05:00.000Remember the outrage when President Trump called Antifa domestic terrorists?
00:05:04.000Because right now, they are going after federal court buildings in Seattle and Portland.
00:05:09.000They are going after Democrat Party offices, which, by the way, would be under the definition of terrorism because any violence done politically or for a political objective is under the FBI definition of terrorism.
00:05:26.000Remember when government-funded research studies said the dangers of designating Antifa as a terrorist organization?
00:05:35.000Now, President Trump never did any of that.
00:05:38.000He never recommended a new domestic war on terror.
00:05:48.000In fact, Joe Biden, if he really wants to bring the country together, he should have a monthly meeting called the Civil Discourse or the Heal the Divide meeting, where he brings in once a month different grassroots conservatives that have followings and he listens.
00:06:09.000Now, Barack Obama, to his credit, in the early days of his presidency, actually did this when he was debating health care.
00:06:17.000No one really remembers this, but Barack Obama brought in all the conservatives into the White House, aired it, and Paul Ryan got some clips against Obama, and there was a lot of back and forth.
00:06:27.000That was back in, boy, 2009, 2010, when Obama first became president.
00:06:33.000And so the question is, why won't Biden do that?
00:06:39.000Where's the action on how to unify the country?
00:06:41.000Well, so far, his definition of unity is abolishing thousands of jobs through the Keystone XL pipeline and beating the drums of war in his inaugural address, not giving any sort of distinctions or differences.
00:06:58.000He said, it would be one thing if the Democrats weren't talking so open-ended on this.
00:07:04.000It'd be one thing if the Democrats were using organizational names, membership, plots, plans, locations, and strategy.
00:07:13.000It'd be one thing if it was like, okay, there's 600 armed KKK people in Northwest Arkansas, and we need to probably do something about them.
00:07:22.000Instead, it's these platitudes of just open-ended criticism.
00:07:29.000We need to go after political extremism.
00:07:49.000There's a clip in my head somewhere in this vast, confused library of information where AOC says, if this makes me a radical, then so be it, I'm a radical.
00:07:59.000Yeah, no, I roughly remember what you're talking about.
00:08:02.000Yeah, and it's and it's before, you know, there was this siege on the think about all the things that have happened in the wake of the Capitol violent, right?
00:08:15.000Now they now they say, oh, conservatives, you say 1776, that means you want an armed militia to lead an insurrection over the government.
00:08:23.000If you used the word fight in politics, like we want to fight for our country and we're going to fight for what's right.
00:08:29.000Now they take that to mean, that's the new F-word.
00:08:32.000They take it to mean armed fighting to violence in the streets.
00:08:36.000And it's like, well, no, actually, what is being exposed here and what you're really getting at, Charlie, is that sort of charged political language is just part and parcel of the American political experience.
00:08:49.000And AOC and Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib embrace it just as much as a Ted Cruz or Senator Hawley ever have.
00:08:56.000The question is this: Is Joe Biden the president of the Democrat Party or is he the president of the country?
00:09:30.000Look, cancel culture is a very big problem.
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00:12:23.000And so if he were to actually try to heal the country, mind you, he's only 24 hours into the job right now, but he would announce a healing commission, a conversation commission, because they're always talking about having conversations, right?
00:14:07.000Because if you disagree with the Democrats and the left and the establishment media right now, they look at it as spreading disinformation.
00:14:15.000And they look at it as spreading lies.
00:14:35.000Let's go to Cut 96, where Peter Doocy says, well, how are you going to impeach a president while also doing this unity thing, Cut 96?
00:14:44.000Does he think that Nancy Plosi and Chuck Schumer should drop a potentially divisive Senate impeachment trial?
00:14:52.000Well, he spoke today, as you all saw, about unity in his inaugural address.
00:14:58.000Just like the American people can, the Senate can also multitask and they can do their constitutional duty while continuing to conduct the business of the American people.
00:15:10.000And he's going to leave the mechanics, the timing, and the specifics of how Congress moves forward on impeachment to them.
00:15:48.000I mean, you know, listen, there was, again, one person asked a question about abortion, and she goes, oh, Joe Biden's a devout Catholic, and he went to Mass this morning.
00:15:56.000Like, as if that answered the question.
00:15:58.000Does not answer the question about how he supports the abortion.
00:18:03.000The greatest threat to his administration won't be Republicans in Congress to Donald Trump, loyalists, or loyalists outside of Washington.
00:18:10.000It will be from the hard left pushing him into an illiberal policy after another.
00:18:14.000They are loud and influential, yes, but a whole lot of centrist liberals who abhor Trump are queasy as they watch BLM and other militants bullying corporations, university banks, and stores to go all out anti-racist and purge the right.
00:19:07.000Rebuild a shared reality, which means that we must have fact checkers in every single form of American society.
00:19:16.000A new Voting Rights Act, because the last one has been so terrible, saying that we need a new compromise and commission that will change the way we vote in this country.
00:19:24.000Basically, arguing for universal voting, vote by mail.
00:19:27.000A truth and reconciliation commission, not the one that you might think, but one that can help us heal through our wounds of racial injustice.
00:19:36.000There is increase access to affordable housing.
00:20:55.000But it's a politician's calculated public repudiation of an extremist person statement or group that is perceived to have some association with the politicians' own party.
00:22:22.000But I think what you'll have is a bunch of Republicans that give anti-Trump speeches, but they say the fact we're even doing impeachment is wrong, so we're voting against the props.
00:22:29.000They're going to try and split the baby, which is going to upset the base.
00:22:32.000And frankly, it's going to put a target on their back.
00:22:34.000You want to divide the country, go and peach a guy who's on the back nine in Mar-a-Lago or Trump National.
00:22:39.000By the way, his popularity is still extraordinarily high.
00:23:41.000So, Brad Schneider is trying to put forward this new Patriot Act.
00:23:46.000And so, here's Joe Biden saying on Cut 72: If you're ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect, talk down to someone.
00:23:53.000I promise I will fire you on the spot, on the spot.
00:24:51.000Just the same nuance, by the way, that President Donald Trump afforded to the people over the summer when President Donald Trump said, a lot of people are peacefully protesting, and I honor your right to peacefully protest, but violence will never be tolerated.
00:26:10.000We've heard that Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago, is saying, because you guys are all breaking the rules, we need to make it legal again to eat indoors in Chicago so that we can actually have some mitigation efforts in place.
00:26:22.000You guys are breaking the law anyways, essentially.
00:26:24.000We're going to make you come out in the open.
00:26:26.000What did you hear from Governor Cuomo, New York?
00:26:29.000That we have to do this so we have something to return to.
00:26:33.000Rumor has it that the same thing you're going to hear out of California.
00:26:36.000Listen, we hope that life does go back to normal, but this is so transparently politically motivated.
00:26:42.000They've been using the pandemic in 10 different ways to hurt the American people.
00:27:06.000They're like, well, I'm not a racist, therefore I'm a Democrat, which is the opposite of the roots of the Democrat Party and opposite of actually their viewpoints on race.
00:27:13.000Jason Whitlock has talked about this and he compared BLM Incorporated to KKK, Cut 80.
00:27:18.000Well, I compare Black Lives Matter to the KKK.
00:27:26.000But if you go back to the 1860s, after the Emancipation Proclamation, the KKK was started and it was the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party.
00:27:38.000And what's the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party right now?
00:27:53.000If you do not subscribe to every single Democrat policy and allow them to be in control and in charge of everything forever, we are going to ruin your life.
00:28:02.000Yeah, and what I love about this segment is that it takes a guy like Whitlock to speak that kind of truth because it's a bold thing to say, especially on national television.
00:28:10.000But I love how fearless he was in saying it.
00:28:13.000And in the segment just before, you hear them talking about faith and how it's actually our faith.
00:28:19.000And as you and I, Charlie, are evangelical Christians.
00:28:22.000It's our faith that informs the fact that we see human beings for their decisions, for their character.
00:28:30.000We do not look at immutable characteristics and judge that person for their worth.
00:28:36.000It's just not something our faith would allow us to do because all are made in the image and likeness of God.
00:28:43.000And what Jason Whitlock and Tucker were talking about is how it's actually a secularist, anti-theist view that would look at somebody and then create this construct of value based on skin color.
00:29:13.000And so Joe Biden has an opportunity in front of him.
00:29:17.000Joe Biden could be the president of the country or he could be the president of the Democrat Party.
00:29:20.000To be the president of the country, he has to start courting and talking to Trump voters.
00:29:26.000He has to start courting and talking to grassroots conservatives.
00:29:29.000And he can disarm a lot of the opposition if he does that.
00:29:32.000And actually, it's in his political interest to do that.
00:29:34.000But if he decides to dig in and say, no, half the country is mine, half the country is not, that is one of the most divisive, not unifying things a president could possibly do.
00:30:11.000The difference between equality and equity is that although both promote fairness, equality achieves this through treating everybody the same, regardless of need.
00:30:31.000Equity, on the other hand, achieves this through treating people differently dependent on need.
00:30:36.000So equality is treating people the same.
00:30:39.000Equity is treating people differently based on need.
00:30:42.000And so there's a couple different ways to look at this.
00:30:44.000And we'll get a picture up on the live stream of how the left tries to frame equity versus equality.
00:30:49.000And one of the, look, there's equality under the law, which is moral and is necessary.
00:30:54.000Then there's equality of opportunity, which is moral and admirable, hard to achieve, but we should always try to get towards it.
00:31:00.000Then there is equity, which is equal outcome, or try to redistribute outcomes to try to make everyone's outcome the same.
00:31:07.000That is immoral and impossible to achieve.
00:31:10.000And this is an important distinction because equality under the law, first and foremost, is the most important thing that we have in a civil and free society.
00:31:18.000That the law should treat everyone the same, regardless of your skin color, regardless where you come from, regardless of your political views or your religious views.
00:31:27.000That everyone should have the same experience through the judicial system or through at least the application of the law.
00:31:40.000Sometimes people that don't have as much money do not have the same experience in the judicial system as someone that does.
00:31:45.000However, equality of the law, the pursuit of that ideal has always made America a different country, a better country, and a more moral country.
00:31:54.000Equality of opportunity would be trying to advocate for school choice programs, trying to rebuild the American family, trying to say we want people to have a more equal starting point.
00:32:03.000Equity, though, would be redistributing people's goods, services, and wealth to try to have a desired outcome.
00:32:10.000So, for example, they would say, you know, the average black income in the country is less than the average white income.
00:32:16.000The only thing that could possibly explain that is bitter, awful southern-style segregation racism.
00:32:22.000Therefore, we must redistribute via reparations or some other programs to try to make that right, try to right that wrong.
00:32:30.000Never even talking about reconstructing the American family, any of these different sorts of aspects.
00:32:34.000And the problem with equity is that you'll never end.
00:32:38.000There'll be a never-ending list of trying to redistribute and trying to, quite honestly, find a group that believes that they are in need of somebody else's stuff and wealth.
00:32:51.000Yeah, it fuels grievance, the grievance industry.
00:32:54.000The mobilization of grievances is what the left does today.
00:34:32.000And if you want the complete and total redistribution of outcomes, you are going to live in a very dark and quite honestly boring society where no one is incentivized to create, take risks, or aspire to be a better person.
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