00:01:01.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:38.000Well, it's kind of a playoff of the Lewis title from C.S. Lewis of Mere Christianity, of understanding that what's really happening today, especially within the Christian faith, but everywhere you can talk about the simulation of elections, right?
00:01:52.000Which is what they're doing in the badly lagging Zoom call.
00:01:57.000In other words, that you have something that is not just a question of it being fake, it's a question of it actually being hyper-reality.
00:02:06.000So, in other words, it's more real than real.
00:02:09.000And so, when you're talking about where someone wants to take things in regards to what their end goals are, you know, when you talk about problem-reaction-solution, solution is always the end, but it's always the thing that they start with.
00:02:20.000So, you begin with the end of where you want to arrive at, and then you re-engineer things backwards.
00:02:30.000Well, think of problem-reaction-solution.
00:02:32.000For instance, within the church in a church context or within all of society, you have the problem of critical race theory, radical subjectivity, intersectionality that comes in through everything, education, faith.
00:02:45.000It comes in through the major sports, it comes into the media, and then you have the reaction or the neore action that comes back strong, but yet it's using the same principles, if you will, from a Hedarian standpoint of what the woke was actually using.
00:03:01.000So, once again, now we're the victims.
00:03:03.000Now, we're going to play the same game that you played back to you.
00:03:07.000So, both ends are played against the middle.
00:03:10.000And the end solution, of course, is a reordering of society itself.
00:03:30.000In other words, where you're trying to move towards when you hear phrases like the new world order or the new liberal world order.
00:03:38.000And it's the misuse of the word liberal in a sense, because really what it is, it's progressive.
00:03:42.000And that is progressing to a point of singularity.
00:03:46.000When we talk about singularity, you're talking about things such as the concept that H.G. Wells would have spoken about in 1923 in his work, The Global Brain, is that if we can be of one mind collectively, as opposed to being fractured all over the place, and be of one singular mind of us all that we think the same things, we have the same opinions on things and so forth, that there won't be war.
00:04:10.000There won't be this selfishness and so forth.
00:04:13.000So, one of the ways that you actually get through to that is by encouraging us all.
00:04:18.000First, you have to break it into a thousand pieces, fracture everything everywhere, all the identities, genders, it doesn't matter, just into a million pieces.
00:04:40.000Well, Wells would talk about a few things, and this is kind of in his stage where he started phasing out of fiction and really into more futurist thought.
00:04:47.000And so, he would write the book in, I think it was 1922 or 23, just after actually the first one to use this title was a Baptist pastor by the name of Samuel Zane Batten, who was from the same school of thought of Walter Rauschenbush, extremely progressive Christianity.
00:05:03.000And the title was The New World Order.
00:05:05.000So, he writes The New World Order as well.
00:05:07.000He also wrote War of the Worlds and Invisible Man.
00:05:23.000So, all of this was happening simultaneously.
00:05:25.000He was in the height of his career when Woodrow Wilson became president.
00:05:29.000And so, this would have been after the League of Nations then.
00:05:33.000This would have been more 1920s, 1930s, if I'm not mistaken, right?
00:05:37.000Which is really when he was most published and respected.
00:05:40.000So, you say it's a new social contract that they want.
00:05:42.000So, the three traditional frameworks for social contracts in the West would either be Hobbesian, Rousseauian, or Lockean, right?
00:05:51.000Within a certain analysis of human nature.
00:05:53.000Hobbesian being one that I'm most sympathetic with, that human nature is nasty, brutish, and short to one another.
00:05:58.000Rousseauian, obviously, valuing the primitive over the civilized, or the infant over the adult, or the romantic lover over the romantic, yes, yeah, over the loyal spouse, or the Lockean, which would be more tabula rasa, like the blank slate, but natural rights.
00:06:12.000Are you trying to say they have either theorized or trying to resurrect a fourth social contract?
00:06:17.000Well, no, I would say that it's still Rousseauian nature.
00:06:20.000So, you know, with Rousseau, you have this concept that somehow the enlightenment and modernity is the thing that has corrupted all things.
00:06:27.000So, there's a return to, and when you talk about Schwab, it's that same concept of returning to somehow somehow more of a primitive cultural, you know, an ethnic, you would call it folkish, if you will.
00:06:40.000That's what Herder and Hegel would refer to it as well.
00:06:43.000Is we need to kind of have a, once again, a society that is based upon a religious nature.
00:06:50.000So, it isn't secularism that we're heading to.
00:06:59.000Well, it's basically, if you really want to get down to it, it's a kind of a formulation or a dialectical formulation of Hermeticism and Gnosticism.
00:07:07.000You know, Gnosticism basically looking at the physical as evil.
00:07:12.000Well, Gnosticism basically proposes that the physical world, that's what you see, can touch, and so forth, is evil, and the spiritual is the good.
00:07:21.000Now, for many years, and of course, back when you look at how Gnosticism influenced Christianity and failed mainly because of Irenaeus and his against heresies and how he really took apart Valentinian Gnosticism.
00:07:35.000But when you look at Gnosticism, it didn't have that spiritual realm that it could create and so forth.
00:07:56.000You can live in this digital world and never actually be able to interact within the physical realm, physical friends, having relationships with people, having to get along with folks.
00:08:08.000And so, what happens is that you have people that begin to then be a part of different affinity groups or tribes within the digital space itself.
00:08:16.000And so, in the physical nature of what's happening around us, all of this becomes chaos.
00:08:24.000So, Gnosticism has some Eastern roots, obviously, for lack of a better term, very Buddhist or Taoist, where the material is temporary and fades away, and it really is the internal soul that matters more than whatever is happening around you.
00:08:42.000You extrapolate that, though, to the World Economic Forum.
00:08:45.000I think people are going to struggle to say, I don't understand how Klaus Schwab could possibly be a Gnostic.
00:08:50.000Like, that's where people think we're going to have to explore that a little bit more.
00:08:56.000You're going to have to make that make sense for me to be okay.
00:09:34.000So, what he says is that the scientific method is after objective facts.
00:09:39.000He says, but alchemy is after operational success.
00:09:44.000So, their use of alchemy in a social sense is to make things the way that we want them to be, even though it's false and it's not provable.
00:09:53.000But we're going to simply tell you that this is the way that things should be for everyone's common good.
00:09:58.000So, it's social alchemy that's being used.
00:10:30.000Sovereign Nations, Michael O'Fallon, this is so important because I at times will say, Oh, Schwab is an atheist, which might be technically true metaphysically, but there is a theology, a Gnostic theology that is driving the most evil people on the planet.
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00:11:50.000So a new social contract they want to usher in.
00:11:53.000It's interesting that you say, so they, let's say they be Klaus Schwab.
00:11:56.000Is that a fair they that we could play with right now?
00:12:03.000Yeah, Schwab represents many of the ideas, many of the goals that so many have right now.
00:12:10.000And of course, this has been built up around him.
00:12:13.000So that's why you had the young global leaders and so forth that would come to Geneva, that would come to Davos and so forth and be indoctrinated with, here is what the future is going to look like.
00:12:22.000You can be that bridge to help us to get to that future.
00:12:26.000And so we all need to be dedicated to the same thing.
00:12:28.000Now, it wasn't just Democrats that were there.
00:12:31.000And there were plenty of Republicans that we currently have serving that were there.
00:12:36.000We have mayors that are Republican mayors that we all look at and go, oh, great.
00:12:39.000He's the mayor of, well, I don't want to say the city, but those folks are actually part of this entire transition as well.
00:12:46.000So you have a transition happening both from the left and the right.
00:12:50.000So where you would say, you know, what we need, let's say if you're in the UK, you know, what we need is we need to make sure that we have a Tory in office.
00:12:58.000So you end up having a Tory in office like Boris Johnson, who basically goes so much further left than anyone that has ever been labor in the previous history of the UK.
00:13:10.000And so all of a sudden you start to move that Overton window within the party itself to where conservatism is not conservatism anymore.
00:13:17.000So what is it you're actually conserving?
00:13:19.000Yeah, and that's important to re-emphasize.
00:13:22.000So to emphasize, we'll talk more about that in the hour.
00:13:25.000I find it curious because a lot of people, they say all that the World Economic Forum wants is control and power and money.
00:13:34.000What you are arguing is that there is an intellectual and philosophical endpoint here.
00:13:43.000Because what you're looking at, again, first of all, is there is a public-private partnership.
00:13:48.000So the World Economic Forum, in many ways, represents that private portion of that whole deal.
00:13:53.000So when you take a look at all the different corporations that are partnering with the World Economic Forum, you know, all the major corporations that you can think of for the most part, there's a few that aren't, that have been a part of this thing.
00:14:04.000Major car manufacturers, BlackRock, Vanguard, Disney, and so forth, are all part of the World Economic Forum.
00:14:14.000The public part would be the governance of the world, which there is a public-private partnership between the United Nations and the World Economic Forum.
00:14:22.000So you have that marrying together public-private, which is what?
00:14:43.000So what you want to do is try to make basically an ecumenical pathway for those faiths to have agreement on certain things as you continue this process of the dialectic within all of global faith together.
00:14:56.000So whether you're Roman Catholic, whether you're evangelical Protestant, whether you're a Buddhist, whether you're Shinto, whether you're Baha'i faith or whatever, you're all moving with the same concerns of how we can help to, let's say, forge a path forward and take care of systemic global challenges.
00:15:14.000Here's a clip of Rick Warren, who is the former pastor at Saddleback Church.
00:15:20.000Full disclosure, I texted with Rick Warren about this a couple weeks ago.
00:15:24.000I don't think I told you about this, Michael.
00:16:40.000Well, basically, you have someone who's almost representing a corporation or a family of corporations that say, look, we're actually the best distribution model.
00:16:52.000We have our churches, we have our synagogues, we have our temples everywhere around the world.
00:16:56.000And we're the ones that really need to be a part of making sure that whatever the ideas are that are coming from Davos are then, of course, sprinkled throughout the world.
00:18:56.000I want to play a piece of tape here of the World Economic Forum talking about faith and modernity coexisting.
00:19:03.000This is something Michael O'Fallon, who's with us from Sovereign Nations, has been focused on.
00:19:10.000Unfortunately, it's people of faith and pastors that are some of the biggest cheerleaders for the World Economic Forum, Play Cut 54.
00:19:18.000And so we continue after thousands of years to struggle over how to achieve a better world.
00:19:27.000I believe that for faith and modernity to coexist and to draw out the best in each other, one, societies need to defend freedom of faith.
00:19:40.000Not for some, not hierarchically, but for all and equally.
00:19:46.000And in this respect, I must say, while the United States may be an imperfect society, a permanent work in progress, I think that the fact that religion flourishes as it does in the United States is in no small measure due to this protection of freedom of faith and the avoidance of hierarchy in the construction of the relationship between religion and society.
00:20:12.000But secondly, in order for faith and modernity to coexist, I believe, one also needs freedom from faith.
00:20:22.000So he started off pretty benign, and then he got rather malignant towards the end.
00:20:30.000Well, this is again, and I can't remember his name actually off the top of my head, but the idea is that you want to keep them separated, you know, more or less like in Singapore.
00:20:40.000And the Singaporean model that you have is that, yes, you have the right to your faith, but you're not allowed to proselytize.
00:20:47.000So what you want to do is you want to make sure that those faiths stay in their camps, in their tribes, but they don't actually venture outside of those tribes and begin to affect others.
00:20:58.000Unless they could be used for the WEF agenda.
00:21:01.000So there has to be some sort of agreement within all the tribal factions of faith and so forth that we actually have a common good that we're moving towards.
00:21:19.000If you take people of faith out of the equation, you've ruled out five-sixths of the world.
00:21:25.000And if we only leave it up to secular people to solve these major problems, it isn't going to happen.
00:21:31.000When we talk about partnerships at Davos, we basically talk about public and private, or public being government and non-government organizations and private being the for-profit organizations.
00:22:04.000I appreciate him speaking into this community.
00:22:06.000Why is that listener misguided in that?
00:22:09.000Well, it's not that he's speaking into the community in terms of, hey, let me help to bring the love of Jesus and the grace of Jesus Christ and the gospel into the World Economic Forum.
00:22:16.000What he's doing with the World Economic Forum, he's saying, hey, look, we have a great distribution model.
00:22:20.000This is how you can use this because you only have two legs.
00:22:23.000We can be that third leg to help solve this.
00:22:26.000And what that's actually called is integralism.
00:22:28.000So integalismo is where a lot of these concepts were created.
00:22:32.000Then through Dom Helder Camara, who was from Recife, Brazil, who basically became Klaus Schwab's mentor.
00:22:39.000And he spoke, I believe, at the third gathering of the World Economic Forum under Great Duress and so forth.
00:22:44.000But to try to create this pace, this path, where both faith, the corporate world, and as well the world of governance can understand that there needs to be some sort of relationship there, that you can have the faithful side to where you have that in terms of an authority that never ends.
00:23:01.000It's not like someone's going to get voted in and out of office that's in faith.
00:23:05.000They can remain there for years or until they die in some cases.
00:23:08.000So where you might have changes of CEOs or of governance where presidents or prime ministers come in and out, the faith will remain the same, but you now have to have a faith that is in agreement with the new global agenda and order.
00:23:23.000So Rick Warren's defense is that I'll go speak to any people at any time.
00:23:27.000What you're saying, though, is that he was actually offering help, assistance, and a model for the World Economic Forum.
00:23:36.000And there was another paper that was written in 2016, a white paper delivered at Davos.
00:23:41.000I believe it's called the Role of Faith in Global Systemic Challenges.
00:23:47.000And that was done, of course, Rick would have been a part of these things and so forth, but it was done through Lippo Group.
00:23:53.000Lipo Group was one of the main ones that helped to bring it together.
00:23:57.000Lipo Group is a company that was in Asia.
00:24:00.000It's headed by a man by the name of James Riotti, who was involved with the Clinton Bank scandal, was kicked out of the United States for many years and so forth.
00:24:09.000But he's become one of the great funders, especially of reformed evangelical Christianity.
00:24:14.000And so in this, what they do is they do the public reaction, problem reaction solution game all the way through the document in terms of here's how faith can help the faithful be able to start accepting ideas like, I don't know collectivism socialism, responses to pandemic maybe abortion isn't so bad transhumanism yeah sure yes, exactly so that this can be overwhelming to a lot of Christians and just people listening to this in general.
00:24:44.000Well, how we win is by speaking truth into the error, and one of the problems is when you have we're talking about communities, you know, affinity groups and so forth, whether it be political, faith-based is that if you start to tell the truth about what's happening, all of a sudden you can be quote kicked out of the tribe right disfellowshipped, or whatever the case may be.
00:25:04.000You have to be willing to stand and ask the right questions and not just wait for a half-hearted answer or an answer that doesn't really solve the problem itself.
00:25:14.000But we want people that we can trust um, especially in terms of faith.
00:25:19.000But when those men begin to veer off and be a part of something that's actually disrupting and dismantling our world, disrupting and dismantling the church, disrupting and dismantling your faith itself.
00:25:31.000Yes, in the end, in other, in other words, to try to reach a certain goal.
00:26:11.000So Elon has done something to where basically basically, he's become a savior in many ways of social media in terms of communication.
00:26:20.000The problem is is that you don't want to ever consider somebody a complete savior um, especially when uh, you know that person and again, I respect Elon, I appreciate what he's done, but he's also dedicated to transhumanism.
00:26:36.000Yeah, let's wait, let's have some questions.
00:26:38.000I know that Jordan Peterson has tried to dialogue with him a little bit on this and so forth, on Neuralink in particular.
00:26:42.000Well, Neuralink would be one of those things and that debuted in terms of the company a few years ago and now they apparently are ready for Human trials now.
00:26:52.000Just for some of our listeners that aren't familiar with the term.
00:26:54.000It's transitioning humanity into something else.
00:26:58.000So, as opposed to like waiting for what they would say millions of years of evolution, is beginning to be a part of making man better or transitioning us into something that is both digitally connectable as well as, and I'm sorry, I don't want to freak anybody out here, but basically, what you're doing is you're creating God in the image of man.
00:27:18.000So, when you talk about artificial intelligence, you're talking about an omniscient, omniscient, omnipresent being, and you're talking about rule by algorithm.
00:27:27.000But if you're able to, almost like how the Holy Spirit indwells us in Christianity, if somehow that indwelling of artificial intelligence is now within you, both to help you to grow more in terms of your understanding of things, but not only that, but to take a lot of your bad ideas and replace them with good ideas.
00:27:44.000Take away your bad memories and replace them with good memories.
00:27:48.000That's where we end up, and we're not far from that.
00:27:52.000We end up getting in a lot of trouble if we start going down there.
00:27:54.000It's the merging of man and machine, but even more than that, it's the creation of a new species.
00:28:00.000And as well, there's the other concepts of basically being able to, and there's a lot of already a lot of research, a lot of development in terms of ending the aging process and so forth.
00:28:12.000So, there's a lot of benefits that are to be talked about.
00:28:15.000The problem is that we might lose humanity itself.
00:28:49.000They're inalienable in nature and so forth.
00:28:51.000What you're doing is replacing with a collective notion that we all are in this together for the common good.
00:28:58.000And so, their goal, which I think is super creepy, weird, demonic, and wrong, is through using computer technology, artificial intelligence into your brain, into you.
00:29:10.000This is where Neuralink, on the surface, Neuralink says they're just trying to solve people that are paralyzed or TBI, traumatic brain injury, right?
00:29:20.000So, then, how would that be viewed differently than just medical assistance?
00:29:23.000I guess in that micro-dosed example, it's not necessarily alarming, right?
00:29:29.000Well, no, and I mean, what you're going to see, I think, right away with Neuralink is you're going to see people that have been paralyzed or that have cognitive issues.
00:29:35.000That's going to be able to be repaired.
00:29:37.000I mean, it's going to be a miracle in many ways.
00:29:56.000If you don't know the movie Minority Report, it's a good one.
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00:31:19.000So I was talking about this in the break.
00:31:20.000I think it'd be fun to talk about this publicly.
00:31:23.000I think that the technology, the advancement and the acceleration of technology is actually behind their plans and their dreams and their ambitions.
00:31:39.000You know, I think that obviously technology has come a long, long way, but it's not where they want it to be in terms of really trying to create this algorithmic society.
00:31:48.000And I think the amount of citizen pushback has been far overwhelming in regards to what they expected it to be.
00:31:54.000So I think one of the issues is that they're still going to try to push us.
00:31:58.000The question is, is how much we push back?
00:32:01.000Because one thing that they don't want to see is they don't want to see bloodshed and so forth.
00:32:09.000So, but Michael, what I'm getting at here, and I think this is a sign of hope, is they have all these ambitions and these dreams.
00:32:17.000Some would say, I would say they're rather dystopian, but the equivalent would be, you know, Huxley predicting human beings could be, you know, manufactured and boring, and then you just still can't do that.
00:32:29.000There are some dystopian, rather tyrannical things they've been able to get done.
00:32:33.000The iPhone has been, I think, wildly and magically more successful over the last decade than they could have imagined.
00:32:41.000But there are some missing widgets here in their machinery where artificial intelligence, that's right, not the right word, but virtual reality, let's use it that way, is not catching on the way I think they would have liked so far.
00:33:00.000And I think it's really hurt meta's entire business.
00:33:04.000You know, so yeah, there's, I think, going to be continued offering to try to take people out of completely out of the physical world and into this kind of digital spiritual world, this hyper-reality.
00:33:33.000And that's the thing, the objective real world with, you know, and it's not objective real life too, to where, you know, you have people that are basically LARPing their entire lives now.
00:33:45.000What is LARPing for its live action role?
00:33:47.000And look, when you see all these photographs of people that are in the military with dog faces on, or, you know, you see them, you know, women dressed up as kind of this, you know, anime or whatever it is, you know, is that as opposed to someone being a man or a woman, they are now being a part of whatever little thing that they're really into.
00:34:09.000And so just like how you put up, you know, some sort of picture that you have on your Twitter handle is that they're doing that in real life.
00:34:40.000You know, where do you turn to then for that real and for those real relationships, even when your pastors are involved in this?
00:34:47.000Yes, they turn to some portal that only makes them more miserable, confused, hopeless, and aimless.
00:34:52.000And I think that that's where like TPUSA has become a place where people are like, you know, I just want to connect with something that's real.
00:35:00.000I want to talk about the things that I see around me that are falling apart and just to be with other people that agree with that and are willing to even argue about it.
00:35:08.000And I think that's part of what our event this weekend hopes to accomplish.