The Charlie Kirk Show - What is Gnostic Globalism? With Michael O’Fallon

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00:01:24.000 Michael O'Fallon is here from Sovereign Nations.

00:01:27.000 You had a fabulous event last week that I was able to stop by at.

00:01:32.000 Right, right.

00:01:32.000 And what was the name of the event?

00:01:34.000 Was Mere Simulocrity.

00:01:37.000 What does that mean?

00:01:38.000 Well, it's kind of a playoff of the Lewis title from C.S. Lewis of Mere Christianity, of understanding that what's really happening today, especially within the Christian faith, but everywhere you can talk about the simulation of elections, right?

00:01:52.000 Which is what they're doing in the badly lagging Zoom call.

00:01:55.000 Simultaneously, right now.

00:01:56.000 Correct.

00:01:56.000 That's right.

00:01:57.000 In other words, that you have something that is not just a question of it being fake, it's a question of it actually being hyper-reality.

00:02:06.000 So, in other words, it's more real than real.

00:02:09.000 And so, when you're talking about where someone wants to take things in regards to what their end goals are, you know, when you talk about problem-reaction-solution, solution is always the end, but it's always the thing that they start with.

00:02:20.000 So, you begin with the end of where you want to arrive at, and then you re-engineer things backwards.

00:02:27.000 Give us an example of that process.

00:02:29.000 Sure.

00:02:30.000 Well, think of problem-reaction-solution.

00:02:32.000 For instance, within the church in a church context or within all of society, you have the problem of critical race theory, radical subjectivity, intersectionality that comes in through everything, education, faith.

00:02:45.000 It comes in through the major sports, it comes into the media, and then you have the reaction or the neore action that comes back strong, but yet it's using the same principles, if you will, from a Hedarian standpoint of what the woke was actually using. 0.53

00:03:01.000 So, once again, now we're the victims.

00:03:03.000 Now, we're going to play the same game that you played back to you.

00:03:07.000 So, both ends are played against the middle.

00:03:10.000 And the end solution, of course, is a reordering of society itself.

00:03:14.000 Yeah, so let's talk about that.

00:03:15.000 I think that's fascinating.

00:03:17.000 The Klaus Schwab types, the World Economic Forum types.

00:03:22.000 I get the question a lot from people: what do they want?

00:03:25.000 You say reordering of society.

00:03:27.000 What do you mean by that?

00:03:28.000 A complete new social contract.

00:03:30.000 In other words, where you're trying to move towards when you hear phrases like the new world order or the new liberal world order.

00:03:38.000 And it's the misuse of the word liberal in a sense, because really what it is, it's progressive.

00:03:42.000 And that is progressing to a point of singularity.

00:03:46.000 When we talk about singularity, you're talking about things such as the concept that H.G. Wells would have spoken about in 1923 in his work, The Global Brain, is that if we can be of one mind collectively, as opposed to being fractured all over the place, and be of one singular mind of us all that we think the same things, we have the same opinions on things and so forth, that there won't be war.

00:04:10.000 There won't be this selfishness and so forth.

00:04:13.000 So, one of the ways that you actually get through to that is by encouraging us all.

00:04:18.000 First, you have to break it into a thousand pieces, fracture everything everywhere, all the identities, genders, it doesn't matter, just into a million pieces. 1.00

00:04:27.000 Blur the distinctions.

00:04:28.000 Blur the distinctions.

00:04:29.000 And then what you do is you take everything and you put it into a smelting pot, basically, and you melt it all together.

00:04:35.000 So, tell us what did H.G. Wells talk about the global brain.

00:04:39.000 That's really interesting.

00:04:40.000 Well, Wells would talk about a few things, and this is kind of in his stage where he started phasing out of fiction and really into more futurist thought.

00:04:47.000 And so, he would write the book in, I think it was 1922 or 23, just after actually the first one to use this title was a Baptist pastor by the name of Samuel Zane Batten, who was from the same school of thought of Walter Rauschenbush, extremely progressive Christianity.

00:05:03.000 And the title was The New World Order.

00:05:05.000 So, he writes The New World Order as well.

00:05:07.000 He also wrote War of the Worlds and Invisible Man.

00:05:10.000 Yes, that's what he's best known for.

00:05:12.000 That's the fiction side of things as he starts transitioning into this futurist thought.

00:05:17.000 And remember that he's the one that wrote basically the foundational documents for the United Nations as well.

00:05:22.000 H.G. Wells.

00:05:23.000 So, all of this was happening simultaneously.

00:05:25.000 He was in the height of his career when Woodrow Wilson became president.

00:05:29.000 And so, this would have been after the League of Nations then.

00:05:33.000 This would have been more 1920s, 1930s, if I'm not mistaken, right?

00:05:37.000 Which is really when he was most published and respected.

00:05:40.000 So, you say it's a new social contract that they want.

00:05:42.000 So, the three traditional frameworks for social contracts in the West would either be Hobbesian, Rousseauian, or Lockean, right?

00:05:51.000 Within a certain analysis of human nature.

00:05:53.000 Hobbesian being one that I'm most sympathetic with, that human nature is nasty, brutish, and short to one another. 1.00

00:05:58.000 Rousseauian, obviously, valuing the primitive over the civilized, or the infant over the adult, or the romantic lover over the romantic, yes, yeah, over the loyal spouse, or the Lockean, which would be more tabula rasa, like the blank slate, but natural rights.

00:06:12.000 Are you trying to say they have either theorized or trying to resurrect a fourth social contract?

00:06:17.000 Well, no, I would say that it's still Rousseauian nature.

00:06:20.000 So, you know, with Rousseau, you have this concept that somehow the enlightenment and modernity is the thing that has corrupted all things.

00:06:27.000 So, there's a return to, and when you talk about Schwab, it's that same concept of returning to somehow somehow more of a primitive cultural, you know, an ethnic, you would call it folkish, if you will.

00:06:40.000 That's what Herder and Hegel would refer to it as well.

00:06:43.000 Is we need to kind of have a, once again, a society that is based upon a religious nature.

00:06:50.000 So, it isn't secularism that we're heading to.

00:06:52.000 That's not where all of this goes.

00:06:54.000 This is all very religious in nature.

00:06:56.000 It's like, but who's theology, right?

00:06:58.000 Or who's God or who's religion?

00:06:59.000 Well, it's basically, if you really want to get down to it, it's a kind of a formulation or a dialectical formulation of Hermeticism and Gnosticism.

00:07:07.000 You know, Gnosticism basically looking at the physical as evil.

00:07:10.000 Yeah, tell us what Gnosticism is.

00:07:12.000 Well, Gnosticism basically proposes that the physical world, that's what you see, can touch, and so forth, is evil, and the spiritual is the good.

00:07:21.000 Now, for many years, and of course, back when you look at how Gnosticism influenced Christianity and failed mainly because of Irenaeus and his against heresies and how he really took apart Valentinian Gnosticism.

00:07:35.000 But when you look at Gnosticism, it didn't have that spiritual realm that it could create and so forth.

00:07:40.000 It was only in your mind, right?

00:07:42.000 Well, now we have that spiritual mind in the digital.

00:07:46.000 Okay, continue.

00:07:48.000 So, in the digital, you have another world that you can actually create where you can make the world the way that you want it.

00:07:53.000 You can avatar yourself.

00:07:55.000 You can LARP all day long.

00:07:56.000 You can live in this digital world and never actually be able to interact within the physical realm, physical friends, having relationships with people, having to get along with folks.

00:08:08.000 And so, what happens is that you have people that begin to then be a part of different affinity groups or tribes within the digital space itself.

00:08:16.000 And so, in the physical nature of what's happening around us, all of this becomes chaos.

00:08:22.000 That's so interesting.

00:08:24.000 So, Gnosticism has some Eastern roots, obviously, for lack of a better term, very Buddhist or Taoist, where the material is temporary and fades away, and it really is the internal soul that matters more than whatever is happening around you.

00:08:42.000 You extrapolate that, though, to the World Economic Forum.

00:08:45.000 I think people are going to struggle to say, I don't understand how Klaus Schwab could possibly be a Gnostic.

00:08:50.000 Like, that's where people think we're going to have to explore that a little bit more.

00:08:56.000 You're going to have to make that make sense for me to be okay.

00:08:58.000 Sure.

00:08:59.000 So, with this kind of secret knowledge, if you will, that only those that are the illuminated ones can actually understand.

00:09:07.000 So, it's like there's a second higher level of understanding things.

00:09:11.000 And this is where the hermetic part as well.

00:09:13.000 What does hermetic mean?

00:09:14.000 Hermeticism is an ancient religion, once again, where you're talking about the process of alchemy.

00:09:20.000 So, changing things to gold?

00:09:22.000 Well, the alchemy doesn't have to be gold.

00:09:25.000 Okay, sure.

00:09:26.000 So, like, you would have like George Soros that would have the alchemy of finance.

00:09:28.000 He wrote that in 1992.

00:09:30.000 And what he says is changing of state, basically.

00:09:33.000 Well, of anything.

00:09:34.000 So, what he says is that the scientific method is after objective facts.

00:09:39.000 He says, but alchemy is after operational success.

00:09:44.000 So, their use of alchemy in a social sense is to make things the way that we want them to be, even though it's false and it's not provable.

00:09:53.000 But we're going to simply tell you that this is the way that things should be for everyone's common good.

00:09:58.000 So, it's social alchemy that's being used.

00:10:00.000 Let's say, like an election.

00:10:02.000 Like, you decide ahead of time what the operational success looks like. 0.89

00:10:06.000 Katie Hobbes, you know, becoming problem-reaction solution.

00:10:09.000 So, you know the solution you want to get to.

00:10:11.000 And so, what you do is you create the situation around it that is not objectively observable.

00:10:18.000 Let's say like actual votes that are somehow attached to actual legal citizens.

00:10:25.000 So, instead, you start counting ballots.

00:10:27.000 Yeah, and you change the game completely.

00:10:29.000 Correct.

00:10:30.000 Sovereign Nations, Michael O'Fallon, this is so important because I at times will say, Oh, Schwab is an atheist, which might be technically true metaphysically, but there is a theology, a Gnostic theology that is driving the most evil people on the planet.

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00:11:50.000 So a new social contract they want to usher in.

00:11:53.000 It's interesting that you say, so they, let's say they be Klaus Schwab.

00:11:56.000 Is that a fair they that we could play with right now?

00:11:59.000 Well, I think Professor Schwab.

00:12:02.000 Schwabism. 0.57

00:12:03.000 Yeah, Schwab represents many of the ideas, many of the goals that so many have right now.

00:12:10.000 And of course, this has been built up around him.

00:12:13.000 So that's why you had the young global leaders and so forth that would come to Geneva, that would come to Davos and so forth and be indoctrinated with, here is what the future is going to look like.

00:12:22.000 You can be that bridge to help us to get to that future.

00:12:26.000 And so we all need to be dedicated to the same thing.

00:12:28.000 Now, it wasn't just Democrats that were there.

00:12:31.000 And there were plenty of Republicans that we currently have serving that were there.

00:12:36.000 We have mayors that are Republican mayors that we all look at and go, oh, great.

00:12:39.000 He's the mayor of, well, I don't want to say the city, but those folks are actually part of this entire transition as well.

00:12:46.000 So you have a transition happening both from the left and the right.

00:12:50.000 So where you would say, you know, what we need, let's say if you're in the UK, you know, what we need is we need to make sure that we have a Tory in office.

00:12:58.000 So you end up having a Tory in office like Boris Johnson, who basically goes so much further left than anyone that has ever been labor in the previous history of the UK.

00:13:10.000 And so all of a sudden you start to move that Overton window within the party itself to where conservatism is not conservatism anymore.

00:13:17.000 So what is it you're actually conserving?

00:13:19.000 Yeah, and that's important to re-emphasize.

00:13:22.000 So to emphasize, we'll talk more about that in the hour.

00:13:25.000 I find it curious because a lot of people, they say all that the World Economic Forum wants is control and power and money.

00:13:34.000 What you are arguing is that there is an intellectual and philosophical endpoint here.

00:13:42.000 Absolutely.

00:13:43.000 Because what you're looking at, again, first of all, is there is a public-private partnership.

00:13:48.000 So the World Economic Forum, in many ways, represents that private portion of that whole deal.

00:13:53.000 So when you take a look at all the different corporations that are partnering with the World Economic Forum, you know, all the major corporations that you can think of for the most part, there's a few that aren't, that have been a part of this thing.

00:14:04.000 Major car manufacturers, BlackRock, Vanguard, Disney, and so forth, are all part of the World Economic Forum.

00:14:13.000 So that's the private part.

00:14:14.000 The public part would be the governance of the world, which there is a public-private partnership between the United Nations and the World Economic Forum.

00:14:22.000 So you have that marrying together public-private, which is what?

00:14:25.000 Corporate?

00:14:26.000 Fascism.

00:14:27.000 It's fascism.

00:14:28.000 So there is, though, then a third leg of the stool because a two-legged stool cannot stand on its own.

00:14:34.000 It'll fall over.

00:14:35.000 So the third leg of the school, the stool, would be faith.

00:14:39.000 Now, we're not just talking about the Christian faith.

00:14:41.000 We're talking about all faiths.

00:14:43.000 So what you want to do is try to make basically an ecumenical pathway for those faiths to have agreement on certain things as you continue this process of the dialectic within all of global faith together.

00:14:56.000 So whether you're Roman Catholic, whether you're evangelical Protestant, whether you're a Buddhist, whether you're Shinto, whether you're Baha'i faith or whatever, you're all moving with the same concerns of how we can help to, let's say, forge a path forward and take care of systemic global challenges.

00:15:14.000 Here's a clip of Rick Warren, who is the former pastor at Saddleback Church.

00:15:20.000 Full disclosure, I texted with Rick Warren about this a couple weeks ago.

00:15:24.000 I don't think I told you about this, Michael.

00:15:26.000 No, you didn't.

00:15:26.000 And he objected to the categorization that I gave that he was hanging around the people of Davos.

00:15:33.000 I'll let you guys decide for yourself, but I thought he was very sweet in the discourse.

00:15:37.000 And then he had to go to the hospital after that.

00:15:38.000 So I hope everything ended up okay.

00:15:41.000 He's also the author of A Purpose-Driven Life.

00:15:43.000 I think that what he says here, you be the judge.

00:15:46.000 Play Cut 52.

00:15:49.000 The church was global 200 years before Davos ever talked about globalization.

00:15:54.000 I could take you to 10 million villages around the world.

00:15:56.000 The only thing in it is the church.

00:15:58.000 And we are in more locations in the United Nations.

00:16:01.000 We speak more languages than the United Nations.

00:16:03.000 We're in a thousand more people groups in the United Nations.

00:16:06.000 So we have to mobilize these faith groups to take work together on these issues that have been unsolvable.

00:16:17.000 And the church has, of course, the greatest distribution.

00:16:19.000 They also have the biggest manpower with big 2.3 billion people.

00:16:23.000 They have local credibility.

00:16:24.000 At the local level, people trust that priest or that pastor or for that matter, an imam or a rabbi.

00:16:31.000 When the crisis comes, NGOs come and go.

00:16:33.000 Nations come and go.

00:16:34.000 But, for instance, the church has a 2,000-year track record.

00:16:38.000 That's Rick Warren.

00:16:39.000 Give us some context on that.

00:16:40.000 Well, basically, you have someone who's almost representing a corporation or a family of corporations that say, look, we're actually the best distribution model.

00:16:47.000 We speak more languages.

00:16:49.000 We have more people.

00:16:50.000 We have the trust of the people.

00:16:52.000 We have our churches, we have our synagogues, we have our temples everywhere around the world.

00:16:56.000 And we're the ones that really need to be a part of making sure that whatever the ideas are that are coming from Davos are then, of course, sprinkled throughout the world.

00:17:05.000 And it's almost like franchising.

00:17:06.000 Yeah, the church will be a happy partner for your distribution.

00:17:09.000 Exactly.

00:17:10.000 Is that a fair summary of what he was saying there?

00:17:13.000 That's a fair summary.

00:17:14.000 And actually, he consistently says that in many other ways.

00:17:16.000 Unfortunately, too many churches are helping the World Economic Forum get their agenda implemented.

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00:18:56.000 I want to play a piece of tape here of the World Economic Forum talking about faith and modernity coexisting.

00:19:03.000 This is something Michael O'Fallon, who's with us from Sovereign Nations, has been focused on.

00:19:10.000 Unfortunately, it's people of faith and pastors that are some of the biggest cheerleaders for the World Economic Forum, Play Cut 54.

00:19:18.000 And so we continue after thousands of years to struggle over how to achieve a better world.

00:19:27.000 I believe that for faith and modernity to coexist and to draw out the best in each other, one, societies need to defend freedom of faith.

00:19:40.000 Not for some, not hierarchically, but for all and equally.

00:19:46.000 And in this respect, I must say, while the United States may be an imperfect society, a permanent work in progress, I think that the fact that religion flourishes as it does in the United States is in no small measure due to this protection of freedom of faith and the avoidance of hierarchy in the construction of the relationship between religion and society.

00:20:12.000 But secondly, in order for faith and modernity to coexist, I believe, one also needs freedom from faith.

00:20:22.000 So he started off pretty benign, and then he got rather malignant towards the end.

00:20:28.000 What was that all about?

00:20:29.000 Who is this guy?

00:20:30.000 Well, this is again, and I can't remember his name actually off the top of my head, but the idea is that you want to keep them separated, you know, more or less like in Singapore.

00:20:40.000 And the Singaporean model that you have is that, yes, you have the right to your faith, but you're not allowed to proselytize.

00:20:47.000 So what you want to do is you want to make sure that those faiths stay in their camps, in their tribes, but they don't actually venture outside of those tribes and begin to affect others. 0.98

00:20:58.000 Unless they could be used for the WEF agenda.

00:21:00.000 Correct.

00:21:01.000 So there has to be some sort of agreement within all the tribal factions of faith and so forth that we actually have a common good that we're moving towards.

00:21:10.000 So then this is Cut 55.

00:21:12.000 If you take out people of faith out of the equation, you've ruled out five-sixths of the world. 0.99

00:21:16.000 Play cut 55.

00:21:19.000 If you take people of faith out of the equation, you've ruled out five-sixths of the world. 0.99

00:21:25.000 And if we only leave it up to secular people to solve these major problems, it isn't going to happen. 0.91

00:21:31.000 When we talk about partnerships at Davos, we basically talk about public and private, or public being government and non-government organizations and private being the for-profit organizations.

00:21:44.000 A one-legged stool will fall over.

00:21:46.000 There you go.

00:21:47.000 And a two-legged stool will fall over. 0.97

00:21:49.000 You have to have three legs.

00:21:51.000 And the third leg of the stool are the people representing faiths on this stage and others.

00:21:58.000 So that's Rick Warren speaking at the World Economic Forum.

00:22:00.000 We got an email from one of our listeners.

00:22:02.000 Charlie, I don't know.

00:22:03.000 I like Rick Warren.

00:22:04.000 I appreciate him speaking into this community.

00:22:06.000 Why is that listener misguided in that?

00:22:09.000 Well, it's not that he's speaking into the community in terms of, hey, let me help to bring the love of Jesus and the grace of Jesus Christ and the gospel into the World Economic Forum.

00:22:16.000 What he's doing with the World Economic Forum, he's saying, hey, look, we have a great distribution model.

00:22:20.000 This is how you can use this because you only have two legs.

00:22:23.000 We can be that third leg to help solve this.

00:22:26.000 And what that's actually called is integralism.

00:22:28.000 So integalismo is where a lot of these concepts were created.

00:22:32.000 Then through Dom Helder Camara, who was from Recife, Brazil, who basically became Klaus Schwab's mentor.

00:22:39.000 And he spoke, I believe, at the third gathering of the World Economic Forum under Great Duress and so forth.

00:22:44.000 But to try to create this pace, this path, where both faith, the corporate world, and as well the world of governance can understand that there needs to be some sort of relationship there, that you can have the faithful side to where you have that in terms of an authority that never ends.

00:23:01.000 It's not like someone's going to get voted in and out of office that's in faith.

00:23:05.000 They can remain there for years or until they die in some cases.

00:23:08.000 So where you might have changes of CEOs or of governance where presidents or prime ministers come in and out, the faith will remain the same, but you now have to have a faith that is in agreement with the new global agenda and order.

00:23:23.000 So Rick Warren's defense is that I'll go speak to any people at any time.

00:23:27.000 What you're saying, though, is that he was actually offering help, assistance, and a model for the World Economic Forum.

00:23:34.000 Yes, and that's what they've done.

00:23:36.000 And there was another paper that was written in 2016, a white paper delivered at Davos.

00:23:41.000 I believe it's called the Role of Faith in Global Systemic Challenges.

00:23:47.000 And that was done, of course, Rick would have been a part of these things and so forth, but it was done through Lippo Group.

00:23:53.000 Lipo Group was one of the main ones that helped to bring it together.

00:23:57.000 Lipo Group is a company that was in Asia.

00:24:00.000 It's headed by a man by the name of James Riotti, who was involved with the Clinton Bank scandal, was kicked out of the United States for many years and so forth.

00:24:09.000 But he's become one of the great funders, especially of reformed evangelical Christianity.

00:24:14.000 And so in this, what they do is they do the public reaction, problem reaction solution game all the way through the document in terms of here's how faith can help the faithful be able to start accepting ideas like, I don't know collectivism socialism, responses to pandemic maybe abortion isn't so bad transhumanism yeah sure yes, exactly so that this can be overwhelming to a lot of Christians and just people listening to this in general.

00:24:41.000 Yeah, how do we win?

00:24:44.000 Well, how we win is by speaking truth into the error, and one of the problems is when you have we're talking about communities, you know, affinity groups and so forth, whether it be political, faith-based is that if you start to tell the truth about what's happening, all of a sudden you can be quote kicked out of the tribe right disfellowshipped, or whatever the case may be.

00:25:04.000 You have to be willing to stand and ask the right questions and not just wait for a half-hearted answer or an answer that doesn't really solve the problem itself.

00:25:14.000 But we want people that we can trust um, especially in terms of faith.

00:25:19.000 But when those men begin to veer off and be a part of something that's actually disrupting and dismantling our world, disrupting and dismantling the church, disrupting and dismantling your faith itself.

00:25:31.000 Yes, in the end, in other, in other words, to try to reach a certain goal.

00:25:34.000 That's not a good thing.

00:25:35.000 So, speaking truth, I totally agree and i'm not sure where you fall down on this.

00:25:38.000 Maybe probably in the middle, with some good, some bad, Elon purchasing Twitter in the calendar of 2022.

00:25:44.000 Does that make us make it easier, more likely, or is it just kind of a a distraction?

00:25:52.000 Well uh, we love the fact that so much is being revealed.

00:25:56.000 A lot's been revealed about you personally, that's correct, and how you were suppressed.

00:26:00.000 Yeah, I was patient, zero in some ways of the do not amplify regime.

00:26:04.000 Yeah, i'm one of those as well.

00:26:05.000 And but James Lindsay, our friend as well, was back on twitter and now he's back.

00:26:10.000 Right it's, it's huge.

00:26:11.000 So Elon has done something to where basically basically, he's become a savior in many ways of social media in terms of communication.

00:26:20.000 The problem is is that you don't want to ever consider somebody a complete savior um, especially when uh, you know that person and again, I respect Elon, I appreciate what he's done, but he's also dedicated to transhumanism.

00:26:34.000 So there's a little bit.

00:26:36.000 Yeah, let's wait, let's have some questions.

00:26:38.000 I know that Jordan Peterson has tried to dialogue with him a little bit on this and so forth, on Neuralink in particular.

00:26:42.000 Well, Neuralink would be one of those things and that debuted in terms of the company a few years ago and now they apparently are ready for Human trials now.

00:26:49.000 So, what is transhumanism?

00:26:52.000 Just for some of our listeners that aren't familiar with the term.

00:26:54.000 It's transitioning humanity into something else.

00:26:58.000 So, as opposed to like waiting for what they would say millions of years of evolution, is beginning to be a part of making man better or transitioning us into something that is both digitally connectable as well as, and I'm sorry, I don't want to freak anybody out here, but basically, what you're doing is you're creating God in the image of man.

00:27:18.000 So, when you talk about artificial intelligence, you're talking about an omniscient, omniscient, omnipresent being, and you're talking about rule by algorithm.

00:27:27.000 But if you're able to, almost like how the Holy Spirit indwells us in Christianity, if somehow that indwelling of artificial intelligence is now within you, both to help you to grow more in terms of your understanding of things, but not only that, but to take a lot of your bad ideas and replace them with good ideas.

00:27:44.000 Take away your bad memories and replace them with good memories.

00:27:48.000 That's where we end up, and we're not far from that.

00:27:52.000 We end up getting in a lot of trouble if we start going down there.

00:27:54.000 It's the merging of man and machine, but even more than that, it's the creation of a new species.

00:27:59.000 Correct.

00:28:00.000 And as well, there's the other concepts of basically being able to, and there's a lot of already a lot of research, a lot of development in terms of ending the aging process and so forth.

00:28:12.000 So, there's a lot of benefits that are to be talked about.

00:28:15.000 The problem is that we might lose humanity itself.

00:28:18.000 But they want that.

00:28:19.000 I mean, they think humanity is, in their own words, an inefficient species.

00:28:24.000 You have to use the rest of them all the time.

00:28:25.000 You got to keep feeding them, prone to commit crime, super lazy.

00:28:28.000 This is what they say in their own literature.

00:28:30.000 Right.

00:28:31.000 And so, why wouldn't we try to improve it?

00:28:33.000 Is what their argument is.

00:28:34.000 Well, yeah, why wouldn't you?

00:28:36.000 Well, that should be up to you or me.

00:28:39.000 So, what you're doing is you're taking away individualism.

00:28:41.000 You're taking away the choice of someone saying, I live this way.

00:28:47.000 I am guaranteed these rights.

00:28:49.000 They're inalienable in nature and so forth.

00:28:51.000 What you're doing is replacing with a collective notion that we all are in this together for the common good.

00:28:58.000 And so, their goal, which I think is super creepy, weird, demonic, and wrong, is through using computer technology, artificial intelligence into your brain, into you.

00:29:10.000 This is where Neuralink, on the surface, Neuralink says they're just trying to solve people that are paralyzed or TBI, traumatic brain injury, right?

00:29:20.000 Right.

00:29:20.000 So, then, how would that be viewed differently than just medical assistance?

00:29:23.000 I guess in that micro-dosed example, it's not necessarily alarming, right?

00:29:29.000 Well, no, and I mean, what you're going to see, I think, right away with Neuralink is you're going to see people that have been paralyzed or that have cognitive issues.

00:29:35.000 That's going to be able to be repaired.

00:29:37.000 I mean, it's going to be a miracle in many ways.

00:29:39.000 Which we're okay with morally, right?

00:29:41.000 Because that's what I mean.

00:29:42.000 That's prosthetic leg, right?

00:29:43.000 I mean, and what's so crazy is that we got all this cool technology.

00:29:46.000 The problem is that it's being misused by people that are totalitarian.

00:29:50.000 So, but they look at this as a way to almost go full minority report, basically.

00:29:55.000 Possibly.

00:29:56.000 Yeah.

00:29:56.000 If you don't know the movie Minority Report, it's a good one.

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00:31:03.000 If this conversation has piqued your curiosity, get tickets to Amfest, A-M-F-E-S-T.com.

00:31:09.000 Michael O'Fallon will be there.

00:31:10.000 James Lindsay is speaking.

00:31:11.000 Yes.

00:31:12.000 It's just going to be terrific.

00:31:13.000 I think you guys have a booth, right?

00:31:15.000 We do something like that.

00:31:16.000 Great.

00:31:16.000 James will be there.

00:31:17.000 I'll be there.

00:31:17.000 I'm really excited about that.

00:31:19.000 So I was talking about this in the break.

00:31:20.000 I think it'd be fun to talk about this publicly.

00:31:23.000 I think that the technology, the advancement and the acceleration of technology is actually behind their plans and their dreams and their ambitions.

00:31:31.000 The metaverse is a total failure.

00:31:33.000 Oculus is not as popular as they would like it to be.

00:31:36.000 Do you agree with that, Michael?

00:31:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:31:39.000 You know, I think that obviously technology has come a long, long way, but it's not where they want it to be in terms of really trying to create this algorithmic society.

00:31:48.000 And I think the amount of citizen pushback has been far overwhelming in regards to what they expected it to be.

00:31:54.000 So I think one of the issues is that they're still going to try to push us.

00:31:58.000 The question is, is how much we push back?

00:32:01.000 Because one thing that they don't want to see is they don't want to see bloodshed and so forth.

00:32:05.000 No, no, no.

00:32:06.000 And we don't want that.

00:32:07.000 We don't want that either.

00:32:08.000 Very clearly, we don't want that.

00:32:09.000 So, but Michael, what I'm getting at here, and I think this is a sign of hope, is they have all these ambitions and these dreams.

00:32:17.000 Some would say, I would say they're rather dystopian, but the equivalent would be, you know, Huxley predicting human beings could be, you know, manufactured and boring, and then you just still can't do that.

00:32:29.000 There are some dystopian, rather tyrannical things they've been able to get done.

00:32:33.000 The iPhone has been, I think, wildly and magically more successful over the last decade than they could have imagined.

00:32:41.000 But there are some missing widgets here in their machinery where artificial intelligence, that's right, not the right word, but virtual reality, let's use it that way, is not catching on the way I think they would have liked so far.

00:32:59.000 Right, right.

00:33:00.000 And I think it's really hurt meta's entire business.

00:33:04.000 You know, so yeah, there's, I think, going to be continued offering to try to take people out of completely out of the physical world and into this kind of digital spiritual world, this hyper-reality.

00:33:04.000 Yes.

00:33:16.000 But I think that if enough people can say, look, I just want to get back to the real.

00:33:21.000 You know, I want real relationships.

00:33:22.000 I want to live in the real world, eat real food, not necessarily whatever it is they're trying to shove down our throats right now.

00:33:29.000 I totally agree with this.

00:33:31.000 The real is the future.

00:33:32.000 It is.

00:33:33.000 And that's the thing, the objective real world with, you know, and it's not objective real life too, to where, you know, you have people that are basically LARPing their entire lives now.

00:33:45.000 What is LARPing for its live action role?

00:33:46.000 Live act role-playing.

00:33:47.000 And look, when you see all these photographs of people that are in the military with dog faces on, or, you know, you see them, you know, women dressed up as kind of this, you know, anime or whatever it is, you know, is that as opposed to someone being a man or a woman, they are now being a part of whatever little thing that they're really into.

00:34:09.000 And so just like how you put up, you know, some sort of picture that you have on your Twitter handle is that they're doing that in real life.

00:34:09.000 Right.

00:34:15.000 So it's crossing over.

00:34:17.000 I think you hit it perfectly.

00:34:18.000 I've been saying this for a while.

00:34:20.000 There is a soul yearning for the real.

00:34:23.000 Yes.

00:34:23.000 And it was one of the reasons why this generation is the most depressed, suicidal, alcohol, and drug-addicted generation in history.

00:34:30.000 They are so disconnected from the real, which also means suffering, difficulty, adversity.

00:34:37.000 Right.

00:34:38.000 That's part of the real.

00:34:39.000 Where do you turn to?

00:34:40.000 You know, where do you turn to then for that real and for those real relationships, even when your pastors are involved in this?

00:34:47.000 Yes, they turn to some portal that only makes them more miserable, confused, hopeless, and aimless.

00:34:52.000 And I think that that's where like TPUSA has become a place where people are like, you know, I just want to connect with something that's real.

00:34:52.000 Right.

00:35:00.000 I want to talk about the things that I see around me that are falling apart and just to be with other people that agree with that and are willing to even argue about it.

00:35:08.000 And I think that's part of what our event this weekend hopes to accomplish.

00:35:12.000 Yes.

00:35:13.000 And this is much bigger than politics.

00:35:15.000 I hope everyone understands that.

00:35:16.000 This is existence as we know it.

00:35:18.000 Right.

00:35:19.000 It's the species that we're talking about.

00:35:21.000 But you just hit on something.

00:35:22.000 It's not just about humanity, it's actually existence itself.

00:35:27.000 Yes.

00:35:27.000 You know, as we know it on this planet.

00:35:29.000 I mean, it's existential.

00:35:30.000 Yeah, it is correct.

00:35:32.000 We hear that word so often.

00:35:34.000 It's just not overused here.

00:35:37.000 That's really what we're talking about.

00:35:39.000 It is the closest, most clear existential crisis.

00:35:43.000 Correct.

00:35:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:44.000 That one could possibly think of.

00:35:45.000 Tell people about your podcast, your website, all that good stuff.

00:35:48.000 Sure.

00:35:49.000 A website is sovereignnations.com.

00:35:51.000 I have two podcasts that I do.

00:35:52.000 One's called Public Occurrences, both foreign and domestic, and as well, The Causes of Things.

00:35:58.000 I love that.

00:35:59.000 And you're going to be at AmericaFest.

00:36:01.000 You guys will have a booth.

00:36:02.000 People can come by and say hello.

00:36:04.000 One of my goals for 2023 is just to do more of this type of long-form content with you and James.

00:36:09.000 I think it's important.

00:36:11.000 And you were one of the pioneers of these conversations with Bogogian and James years ago.

00:36:16.000 But it is the species, and you and I both actually love human beings.

00:36:19.000 Amen.

00:36:20.000 Unlike some of the masters of the universe.

00:36:22.000 Yes.

00:36:23.000 All right, Michael, thank you so much.

00:36:24.000 Thank you.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 14, 2022

What is Gnostic Globalism? With Michael O’Fallon

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