The Charlie Kirk Show - What is Wisdom? My Speech to the Turning Point Educator's Summit

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Sunday.

00:00:01.000 My Conversation at Educators Summit in Deerfield, Illinois.

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00:00:36.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:38.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:40.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:43.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:46.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:47.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:48.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:57.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:06.000 That's why we are here.

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00:01:18.000 Hello, everybody.

00:01:19.000 Welcome.

00:01:20.000 Glad you're here.

00:01:20.000 It's good to be home.

00:01:22.000 And there are a few good things and not so good things that have come from Illinois.

00:01:27.000 Jury's out, if I'm one of them, but Turning Point for sure.

00:01:31.000 Thank you for all the amazing work that the Turning Point Academy team has put in to putting together this event.

00:01:38.000 Hutz and Jennifer and Francine and Scott have worked very hard on the whole Turning Point Academy team.

00:01:43.000 For those of you that follow Turning Point, we are a busy bunch.

00:01:46.000 We just had our Young Women's Leadership Summit last weekend where we had 2,500 young women leaders in Dallas, Texas.

00:01:55.000 And if you saw any of the media coverage about it, it's a completely different type of gathering than you would expect.

00:02:03.000 First of all, we said that there's no men pretending to be women allowed at our Young Women's Leadership Summit, which shouldn't be a controversial thing to say.

00:02:12.000 And of course, now we have our Educators Summit.

00:02:15.000 And then coming up in a couple of weeks, our sister organization, Turning Point Action, in West Palm Beach, Florida, we're hosting Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Dan Bongino, and any presidential candidate that wants to show up.

00:02:28.000 And so if you guys are looking for, if you're bored in July, you want to come down to West Palm Beach, Florida, that lineup is going to make some headlines for sure.

00:02:37.000 But this is one of the most important things that we're doing.

00:02:39.000 I'm thrilled with Hutz's leadership and it's full circle.

00:02:42.000 I gave my life to the Lord thanks to Mrs. Weber.

00:02:45.000 I still call her Mrs. Weber.

00:02:47.000 You can't get over that, right?

00:02:49.000 In fifth grade.

00:02:50.000 And really, third, fourth, and fifth grade set me on a trajectory for my life's work.

00:02:56.000 And that's when I was at Christian Heritage Academy.

00:02:58.000 I went to government school after that.

00:03:00.000 So that's a really important note for some of you that are educators or parents.

00:03:04.000 Even if a couple years of strong education can make that foundation more than you could ever imagine.

00:03:10.000 So it was third, fourth, and fifth grade at Christian Heritage Academy.

00:03:13.000 Then I went to MacArthur Middle School.

00:03:14.000 Some of you might be familiar with that.

00:03:15.000 And then Wheeling High School, which some of you are familiar with.

00:03:19.000 And they've disowned me at that school.

00:03:22.000 But I am going to talk about Wheeling in a second because there's a lot of lessons to learn there.

00:03:28.000 I had a great experience there.

00:03:30.000 I really did.

00:03:31.000 I can't say that that school is in a good place anymore, which is too bad because the trends that we are seeing nationally, unfortunately, infected that school.

00:03:39.000 I'll talk about that.

00:03:40.000 But Hutz then took over Christian Heritage Academy after I left, so we kind of crossed paths.

00:03:44.000 And that's how we got reconnected through a local friend of mine, Jack Vita, who's a great kid, and he connected us, super energetic.

00:03:52.000 And the Lord wanted us to work together.

00:03:54.000 And we immediately hit it off.

00:03:55.000 And I mean, our whole vision, our broad vision, everything we do at Turning Point, and I forgot to mention, we just had our pastor summit where we had 1,100 pastors in Nashville, the largest pastor summit of its kind, and we have another one coming up in a few weeks.

00:04:08.000 We're doing all sorts of stuff.

00:04:10.000 Is our big picture vision is we believe firmly that Western civilization is special and unique, rooted in biblical values and ideas, and that we are called through our own obligation to do our part to try to save Western civilization against people that want to destroy it.

00:04:28.000 And this is something that not every Christian agrees with me on.

00:04:31.000 Some people say, Charlie, Western society doesn't matter.

00:04:34.000 It doesn't matter the government that you have.

00:04:36.000 I think that's wrong.

00:04:37.000 Jeremiah 29, 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in.

00:04:40.000 I'm not saying it's the most important thing.

00:04:42.000 The most important thing is spreading the gospel.

00:04:44.000 But the second most important thing is to make sure you can do the first thing.

00:04:47.000 And when we lived during COVID and they deemed the church non-essential and stripped clubs, liquor stores, marijuana dispensaries were essential and the church was not.

00:04:55.000 And Easter and Pentecost was, you weren't even allowed to go to church and you had to wear masks and be socially distanced.

00:05:01.000 I said, no, something here is really, really terribly wrong.

00:05:04.000 And we also must be very honest that, you know, in countries that are less free, totalitarianism is directly at odds with liberty, which is God's idea, not man's idea.

00:05:13.000 And so there is a place, I think, for believers to contest in this and to love the nation that you are in and also have gratitude because we do not live in a country or a civilization like any other.

00:05:23.000 I think this is a, I'll be very blunt, which is kind of my thing, right?

00:05:28.000 I think it's hyper-entitled upper-middle-class Christian talk if you act as if there's nothing special about America.

00:05:35.000 If you kind of just scoff and you're like, oh, this country's like everything else, you know, God doesn't really care about this.

00:05:41.000 I think that is a complete disrespect to the Bible-believing, courageous Christians that founded this nation, that died for this nation, that poured into the form of government, consent to the governed, checks and balances, individual liberty, independent judiciary.

00:05:55.000 These are all biblical principles.

00:05:57.000 The most cited book in the formation of the United States government was Deuteronomy, right?

00:06:02.000 Most kids can't even spell Deuteronomy, right?

00:06:05.000 And in fact, that's going to be something I'm going to talk about in a second.

00:06:07.000 On the Liberty Bell, they put Leviticus on the Liberty Bell, okay?

00:06:11.000 Not Psalms, not Proverbs, not John, Leviticus.

00:06:14.000 Proclaim liberty in the land of which you are in.

00:06:17.000 And so for some people that say, oh, Charlie, there's no place for patriotic elements in Christian education, I disagree completely.

00:06:24.000 I think that we need to contest for liberty because it's something that has an eternal ring to it.

00:06:30.000 And so a couple thoughts that I want to share with you today.

00:06:33.000 Let me talk about Wheeling High School.

00:06:34.000 Then I'm going to talk about something that happened yesterday on Jeopardy, which actually ties into why we are here, which I think is one of the most illuminating pieces.

00:06:42.000 It's a 10-second clip that is one of the most powerful things I have seen and why Turning Point Academy matters.

00:06:48.000 My 10-second clip, Jeopardy, so I'll leave you in suspense there.

00:06:50.000 But first, let me tell you about Wheeling High School.

00:06:53.000 It was a great place to go to school.

00:06:55.000 I say this to reporters all the time.

00:06:57.000 I'm sure there are some reporters that are either, they snuck their way in.

00:07:00.000 Welcome, by the way.

00:07:01.000 Hope you learned something.

00:07:02.000 Glad you're here.

00:07:03.000 And so I mean that.

00:07:04.000 We've got nothing to hide, right?

00:07:05.000 We're just trying to make sure the next generation loves God and loves the country, right?

00:07:09.000 Not a huge agenda here.

00:07:11.000 So these reporters sometimes challenge me because I'll say this.

00:07:15.000 I said I was a minority in the high school I went to.

00:07:17.000 They don't believe me, right?

00:07:18.000 Because there's kind of this archetype as if I went to New Trier.

00:07:20.000 I didn't.

00:07:21.000 You guys know the difference, right?

00:07:21.000 I went to Wheeling.

00:07:23.000 As if I went to some sort of lily white high school.

00:07:25.000 Nothing wrong with Nutrier, right?

00:07:26.000 But the point is that I was a minority in the high school I went to, 53% Hispanic.

00:07:31.000 English is second language.

00:07:32.000 If you know Wheeling, you know the area.

00:07:34.000 And it was a great place to go to school, right?

00:07:35.000 It was like the United Nations, over 80 countries represented.

00:07:38.000 And when I went to high school, no exaggeration, nobody cared about race.

00:07:41.000 Nobody cared about race, right?

00:07:43.000 We had black kids, we had Polish, we had Vietnamese, we had Japanese, we had South Africans.

00:07:47.000 There was not even like a whisper of racial insensitivity. 0.99

00:07:51.000 Were there like stupid jokes here or there? 0.99

00:07:54.000 16-year-olds being 16-year-olds. 0.99

00:07:55.000 But we all looked at each other at human beings on our sports teams, in our classrooms, in our competitions.

00:08:00.000 And it was a great place to go to school, right?

00:08:02.000 Won state championships on marching band and debate and all this.

00:08:05.000 It was a great place to go to school.

00:08:06.000 And now, 10 years later, that very same school is completely different.

00:08:09.000 District 214 has been taken over by social emotional learning and critical race theory.

00:08:14.000 They're emphasizing race where there was no problem to begin with.

00:08:18.000 Where it was a school where I was always told that race doesn't matter and character matters.

00:08:22.000 Now I see from the outside that race matters and character doesn't matter that much.

00:08:27.000 That is not progress.

00:08:28.000 That is a regression, everybody.

00:08:30.000 And it pains me.

00:08:31.000 I am saddened because I know what education can and should be.

00:08:36.000 Were there problems where I went to high school?

00:08:37.000 Yeah, there were liberal teachers.

00:08:38.000 Now, who cares, right?

00:08:39.000 The point, you're going to get that in government education, right?

00:08:43.000 But I can tell you that there was not the re-tribalization of 17 or 18-year-olds based on the melanin content of people's skin.

00:08:51.000 And I can say from personal experience that it worked and it was beautiful, and that's what education should be.

00:08:59.000 Now you have these academics that see racism where it doesn't exist and create it where it doesn't exist.

00:09:06.000 They're literally creating more racism where these kids otherwise would not be acting in that way.

00:09:12.000 And it's really a tragedy.

00:09:14.000 We're seeing this happen in schools across the country.

00:09:16.000 And so this has personally been a motivation for me to empower HUTS and the Turning Point Academy team because seeing something that once worked and then see it become somewhat largely unrecognizable really pains me.

00:09:30.000 And I'm sure all of you have your own personal experiences of an institution that wants to be great, once was great, and a school that wants to be great.

00:09:36.000 And so I'm personally motivated to try to push back against it.

00:09:40.000 Critical race theory, I believe, is from the pit of hell.

00:09:42.000 It is one of the great evils in our society.

00:09:44.000 There is no compromising with it.

00:09:46.000 It judges people based on the color of their skin, not their content.

00:09:49.000 They do not believe in individual agency.

00:09:52.000 They believe in societal power dynamics.

00:09:54.000 It is a false assumption.

00:09:55.000 It is against exactly what we're called to do in the scriptures, which is look at people with souls.

00:10:00.000 They look at people strictly as what power dynamic group that they're in.

00:10:03.000 And anybody who even entertains it to a slightest degree, I think, either doesn't mean well or they really don't know what they're doing.

00:10:11.000 It could be one of the two.

00:10:11.000 I think there's a lot of people that don't quite understand what they're doing.

00:10:14.000 But we're seeing it happen in society, right?

00:10:16.000 I mean, at Cal Berkeley, they have black-only graduation ceremonies, right?

00:10:20.000 At over 200 campuses now, they have black-only dormitories.

00:10:23.000 And we're told this is progress.

00:10:25.000 Just so you know, the new racial orthodoxy is that whites should have their own areas and blacks should have their own areas.

00:10:32.000 Not exactly a unique take to be like, hey, we tried to get away from that in our country.

00:10:36.000 That is literally what is now being created.

00:10:39.000 And if you challenge it, you're a racist.

00:10:43.000 That is where we are.

00:10:44.000 Okay, second thing, I want to talk about Jeopardy.

00:10:46.000 So somebody asked me the other day, they said, Charlie, what is the goal of Turning Point Academy?

00:10:52.000 I said, well, there's a lot of goals.

00:10:53.000 One of the most important goals is to make sure that kids are wise, not just that they know a bunch of stuff.

00:11:01.000 Big difference.

00:11:03.000 Most Christian education out there will not be able to clearly tell you that.

00:11:09.000 You see, there's a massive contrast between modern John Dewey-centric education and a classical Christian bibliocentric education.

00:11:17.000 There's a philosophical difference.

00:11:18.000 And I'm going to paint some of those contrasts for you.

00:11:21.000 But first, let me tell you about something I saw.

00:11:23.000 If you saw it, it went viral.

00:11:24.000 And if not, it's worth thinking about.

00:11:26.000 So I'm a big fan of Jeopardy.

00:11:28.000 I grew up watching it a lot with my grandmother.

00:11:30.000 I'm okay at it.

00:11:30.000 I'm not that good, right?

00:11:32.000 But I'm above average.

00:11:34.000 And so I was watching this.

00:11:36.000 I was watching this clip.

00:11:38.000 And you got these three brainiacs.

00:11:40.000 And just to even get on Jeopardy, super hard, right?

00:11:42.000 You have to compete.

00:11:43.000 It's not like, hey, we randomly select you.

00:11:45.000 These are very smart, credentialed people, okay?

00:11:47.000 And this was like the introductory question, right?

00:11:49.000 It's like a $200 round, right?

00:11:51.000 And so they give you the answer, so you have to say the question.

00:11:55.000 They basically have the Lord's Prayer, right?

00:12:01.000 And all you had to do was fill in what is hallowed, right?

00:12:04.000 It was a missing thing.

00:12:06.000 Hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come.

00:12:08.000 And you got these three brainiacs that just stare into and they don't know.

00:12:15.000 The most elementary question, right?

00:12:18.000 And then you watch the full episode. 0.88

00:12:19.000 They're not dumb.

00:12:20.000 These are smart people.

00:12:22.000 High IQ, high functioning people.

00:12:24.000 And they could tell you the difference, different Greek gods.

00:12:28.000 They could tell you about sub-Saharan species elimination, right? 1.00

00:12:32.000 They could tell you about climate change trends, right?

00:12:35.000 They were quoting like 60s rock songs, but they couldn't tell you the most, it's the simple question about the Lord's Prayer.

00:12:44.000 And that is a perfect example of modern education.

00:12:47.000 These people are standing up there, and yeah, they know a bunch of facts, but they have no wisdom.

00:12:55.000 And there is a total difference between that.

00:12:57.000 You send your kid to most colleges and most secular institutions.

00:13:01.000 They will be able to recite a bunch of information, but they don't have wisdom.

00:13:08.000 So what is wisdom?

00:13:09.000 Wisdom is the knowledge of the things that never change.

00:13:14.000 Wisdom is being able to tell the difference between good and evil.

00:13:19.000 Wisdom is being able to understand the difference of what is man and God, man and nature, holy and profane.

00:13:27.000 These are questions that you can't answer easily just by memorizing a bunch of stuff.

00:13:32.000 It takes work to get to wisdom.

00:13:34.000 Now, some of you might say, well, Charlie, you know, you can get wisdom through life experience.

00:13:38.000 You can, but there's no guarantee.

00:13:41.000 And usually the only way, but you're basically telling me, is that I want my kid to experience a bunch of pain to get wisdom because that's the only way that you could get wisdom the old-fashioned way is pain.

00:13:51.000 And that's fine.

00:13:52.000 We should not want to shield our kids from pain.

00:13:54.000 But there's a much easier way to get kids wisdom at a younger age, which is make them do the work.

00:14:01.000 Read the good books, spend times in the scriptures, and have meaningful dialogues in the pursuit of truth.

00:14:08.000 That does not happen in 99% of schools.

00:14:10.000 And it doesn't happen in most Christian schools, by the way.

00:14:13.000 In fact, most Christian schools are having an industrial-style, hyper-feminized model of education.

00:14:20.000 Now, you might say, what do you mean hyper-feminized?

00:14:22.000 Having kids sit around all day long and just read books like Little House on the Prairie is a hyper-feminist, failed model of educating young boys.

00:14:30.000 Boys need to move every 20 minutes and need to be involved in learning all the time.

00:14:35.000 Most Christian schools, they're like, never heard of this before.

00:14:37.000 They're like, well, we just have kids sit single file, and that's a really good way to make sure kids suffering from ADD, they get hypermedicated at a young age, young boys especially.

00:14:45.000 It's a failed model.

00:14:47.000 And yet we keep on repeating it.

00:14:49.000 We're wondering, like, well, why is this generation the most suicidal, depressed, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, screen-addicted, and social media generation history?

00:14:57.000 I don't understand.

00:14:58.000 Why is it that they are increasingly believing that there is no God and all this?

00:15:02.000 Well, first of all, the whole premise of how we're doing education is completely flawed.

00:15:07.000 If you look at Woodrow Wilson, who was, I think, America's worst president, and John Dewey, who was a terrible person, and he was the father of modern America, public education, really government education.

00:15:18.000 They decided to turn the page, turn their back, I believe, all-out steamroll, what founded this country, which was classical Christian education. 0.97

00:15:28.000 Every major founding father was classically Christian educated.

00:15:31.000 Now, what does that mean?

00:15:32.000 That means they reasoned from the Bible.

00:15:34.000 They studied Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle.

00:15:37.000 They studied Aurelius.

00:15:38.000 They studied Epietus.

00:15:40.000 They studied Seneca.

00:15:41.000 They studied all the classics.

00:15:43.000 And first and foremost, were educated in a way of you'll eventually can fill yourself with information.

00:15:48.000 Do you know right from wrong and good from evil?

00:15:51.000 And are you going to be able to have the temperance and the prudence to make decisions for the rest of your life?

00:15:57.000 Are you going to be what Aristotle called a well-soul being?

00:16:01.000 That's not a question most education even thinks about asking now.

00:16:05.000 You know what they say is, well, I just want my kid to have a bunch of skills so that he could go get a job.

00:16:10.000 Instead, it should be, I want my kid to be a good person.

00:16:14.000 It's a much different approach.

00:16:17.000 And I could say this right now.

00:16:21.000 When you don't emphasize wisdom, when you don't emphasize diving deep into these ideas, then, yeah, there's a lack of morality, and that's pretty obvious.

00:16:30.000 Creates an unhappy people.

00:16:32.000 It also creates mass societal moral subjectivity.

00:16:37.000 And you get bad politics because of that. 0.87

00:16:39.000 You get real, you get, I mean, you get this pride garbage that we're seeing in our country right now. 0.97

00:16:44.000 Men can give birth, all that. 0.93

00:16:46.000 It starts from a flawed educational premise.

00:16:51.000 And so in modern education, they believe that kids need to be endlessly entertained, right?

00:16:59.000 Videos, movies.

00:17:02.000 Classical education believes learning is an end in itself.

00:17:07.000 That it's not a means, but learning is an end.

00:17:09.000 That it's one of the greatest things a human being can do.

00:17:13.000 Totally different.

00:17:14.000 Where modern education is like learning is an inconvenience to get you to a skill set so you can make money.

00:17:19.000 Whereas classical education believes that you become a joyful person when you learn.

00:17:24.000 And I know that to be true, and you do too.

00:17:26.000 That the deeper you understand, the first line of Aristotle's metaphysics is all men desire to know, yearn to know.

00:17:33.000 In modern education, they say, how many times have you heard that we must equip young people for an ever-changing global economy?

00:17:41.000 How many times have you read that in a silly pamphlet, right? 1.00

00:17:45.000 That nauseating garbage. 1.00

00:17:47.000 How about this? 0.99

00:17:48.000 We must have young people to be able to have the courage and the wisdom to act against evil.

00:17:55.000 That's a big difference, right?

00:17:59.000 So what we're getting at is that it's not even a matter that we have liberal education and conservative education.

00:18:05.000 The form and the process of actually how we're educating kids ourselves needs to be reconsidered.

00:18:12.000 And that's what Turning Point Academy is trying to do.

00:18:14.000 And we're not the only ones.

00:18:15.000 Hillsdale's done a great job of this, right?

00:18:17.000 There's so many great groups that are doing this.

00:18:19.000 But honestly, I think we're barely even touching the surface.

00:18:22.000 Because when I sit down with Christian parents, they say, oh, yeah, you know, I send my kid to a great Christian school.

00:18:29.000 And I say, okay, well, you know, answer, you know, a couple questions.

00:18:32.000 Like, what is the premise of the school?

00:18:34.000 What do they consider to be the end?

00:18:36.000 And it kind of gets a little bit fuzzy at times.

00:18:39.000 And there's some great Christian schools, obviously.

00:18:42.000 However, the amount of Christian schools that try to fit into that modern form is alarming.

00:18:50.000 And I'll give you another example.

00:18:52.000 Is, you know, parents should have to ask the question of, you know, and having a daughter now, you start asking these questions, right?

00:19:01.000 Is when I'm going to choose education, what exactly is the process that I want them to go along?

00:19:10.000 So the word education in Latin literally means to lead forth, right?

00:19:13.000 And actually comes from the allegory of the cave, to leave forth from darkness into light.

00:19:18.000 Modern education believes all viewpoints are equal.

00:19:23.000 Okay?

00:19:24.000 And so does some Christian schools, by the way.

00:19:26.000 If you dive in, it's like, well, we don't want to offend people, and there's a lot of good ideas out there.

00:19:31.000 Properly rooted Western Christian education believes that there is a truth and you should love the child enough to lead them on the path and the journey to get to that truth.

00:19:43.000 That's completely different than believing that everybody has, you know, similar type, equal footing ideas, egalitarianism of ideas.

00:19:54.000 That's really bad.

00:19:55.000 And that's where you get this new modern educational model where a first-grade teacher will sit around and ask, okay, I want to hear what all of you think about what's going on in the news.

00:20:03.000 Who cares what the kids have to say?

00:20:06.000 Teach them something.

00:20:09.000 Modern education believes old is bad.

00:20:12.000 This is a built.

00:20:15.000 This is one of the great cancers of our society.

00:20:18.000 I fight it every day on these campuses, right?

00:20:20.000 That old is bad. 1.00

00:20:22.000 It's like, oh, they didn't have airplanes when Socrates wrote, so they must have been really dumb. 0.96

00:20:28.000 Or that Bible is so old. 0.81

00:20:29.000 I like flipping things.

00:20:30.000 I think flipping is actually one of the coolest things we have to be able to do with our reason, which is a gift from the Lord.

00:20:37.000 So they say old is bad.

00:20:38.000 They say, oh, it's so old, it's outdated.

00:20:40.000 You could flip it into the opposite, which is true.

00:20:42.000 Hey, maybe if something old is still as popular as it is, it's probably true. 0.81

00:20:47.000 It's like the exact opposite, right?

00:20:49.000 Maybe the thing that is thousands of years old is still the most quoted, most sourced, most foundational text.

00:20:57.000 There's probably some staying power to this document.

00:20:59.000 You should have humility before you dismiss it because we have Twitter and Advil and Paul the Apostle didn't, right?

00:21:08.000 Like, oh, wow, he wasn't very advanced, which gets down to an even more fundamental thing.

00:21:12.000 And I'm happy to say that at most turning point training events, I think 90% of our kids get this question right, but we're not at 100%.

00:21:20.000 We just had a Texas training, and most kids got the question right, some didn't.

00:21:24.000 And the kids that didn't were Christian educated, right?

00:21:27.000 And it was a very simple question, which is, are human beings naturally good or are they naturally bad, right?

00:21:31.000 And the Christian kids thought they were naturally good, which goes to show that whatever school they go to should be shut down and burned to the ground, right? 1.00

00:21:40.000 Not a hard question to answer, right?

00:21:42.000 And they meant well.

00:21:43.000 They said, their reasoning was like, well, God is good and God made us.

00:21:48.000 Not good theology, right, at all.

00:21:51.000 Missing a big part of the story, including everything after the fall, which is basically a flaming tragedy till Christ comes, right?

00:22:00.000 Lying, rebellion, cheating, stealing, arson, war, lying, rebellion, cheating, stealing, arson, ward, Christ, right?

00:22:06.000 It's just after the other.

00:22:07.000 So are human beings naturally good or naturally bad?

00:22:12.000 This is an incredibly important question. 0.93

00:22:14.000 Classical education believes human beings are rotten.

00:22:17.000 Modern education believes human beings are great.

00:22:21.000 Why does that matter?

00:22:22.000 Because if you believe human beings are great, then what do you have to teach them?

00:22:27.000 Just some skills, but you also then have to motivate them to be activists against what is bad, which is the system.

00:22:33.000 Because then they have to explain evil.

00:22:34.000 And the way that modern educators explain evil is racism, sexism, homophobia, colonialism, climate change.

00:22:40.000 External, external, external, not you.

00:22:43.000 External, not you.

00:22:45.000 Classical education believes that, no, no, you're the problem.

00:22:48.000 And you got a lot of work to do.

00:22:50.000 You got to learn self-control.

00:22:51.000 You got to learn gratitude.

00:22:53.000 You got to learn humility.

00:22:54.000 You got to learn temperance.

00:22:56.000 And you got to do it over and over and over and over and over again.

00:22:59.000 The way education should operate is education used to be where we used to tell young people, you're the problem and America is great.

00:23:09.000 Now in modern education, we say that you're great and America's the problem. 0.94

00:23:15.000 The self-esteem thing is a pile of anti-biblical garbage that has come into our schools. 0.99

00:23:20.000 And most Christians don't have the courage to say it because they want to be nice. 0.99

00:23:24.000 I don't care about being nice.

00:23:25.000 I care about being true.

00:23:26.000 And so, or telling the truth.

00:23:28.000 And I think self-esteem actually increases suicide.

00:23:30.000 I think self-esteem actually creates really bad behavior.

00:23:33.000 And I'll prove it to you.

00:23:34.000 If, there's this poster at Wheeling High School, and this is one of my big debates I had, you're perfect the way you are.

00:23:39.000 And I remember going up to a teacher, I said, if I'm perfect the way I am, why are we in school?

00:23:43.000 Why are we doing homework?

00:23:46.000 Instead, the proper message should be, you're not all yet, you could be.

00:23:49.000 Completely different.

00:23:51.000 One is about a journey of eventually reaching a destination through hard work, sacrifice, and discipline.

00:23:58.000 The other one is this affirmation as if you've completed your path in the ninth grade.

00:24:05.000 That's not even fair to the kid, right?

00:24:07.000 It puts all this pressure on them.

00:24:10.000 And so the question of is a human being naturally good or naturally bad is one of the most important questions an educator can ask.

00:24:17.000 Because then, as a society, you must explain why is there all this crumminess happening?

00:24:23.000 I think the answer is pretty simple because you believe the raw material we're dealing with post-the fall is pretty awful.

00:24:32.000 So you must teach goodness.

00:24:35.000 You must teach right and wrong.

00:24:36.000 And you must do it repeatedly.

00:24:39.000 And when challenged, the postmodernists who control the education system, you could tell that most of them don't have kids.

00:24:48.000 Because when you have kids, you realize that they're very sweet, but they do things you did not teach them that they got from somewhere, such as it's about me.

00:25:02.000 And I asked this to parents: we haven't had this phenomenon yet, but I can't wait.

00:25:04.000 It's going to be great.

00:25:06.000 Of a kid turning one parent against the other.

00:25:09.000 Manipulation.

00:25:11.000 Was there like a manipulation seminar where you sat that kid down?

00:25:14.000 Here's how you do it.

00:25:15.000 You game them here and you do it here.

00:25:18.000 Or is it kind of just like instinctive?

00:25:21.000 Is it automatic for a two-year-old absent education to say thank you?

00:25:27.000 No.

00:25:28.000 Gratitude has to be repeatedly reminded, incentivized, and then demanded.

00:25:36.000 Because you're not naturally grateful people.

00:25:38.000 And I'll prove it to you further.

00:25:40.000 Again, they reject the scriptures, the modernists. 0.96

00:25:42.000 But I love the book of Exodus, one of my favorite books of the Bible.

00:25:47.000 Incredibly wise for a variety of reasons.

00:25:50.000 And I think there's so much to learn from Sinai and from human nature and tyranny, which I think a lot of what we're living through right now, actually, Exodus speaks to.

00:25:58.000 So God delivers his chosen people after incredible intervention, right?

00:26:01.000 10 plagues, the whole thing.

00:26:03.000 They're in the desert for like a couple days, mind you.

00:26:05.000 This is not even like years, okay?

00:26:09.000 Blows coil off course, man and from heaven, the whole deal, right?

00:26:11.000 They wanted for nothing is what the scriptures were.

00:26:13.000 They weren't hungry.

00:26:14.000 They weren't all this.

00:26:15.000 And then they start yammering.

00:26:18.000 Send me back to Egypt. 0.97

00:26:19.000 Who is this Moses guy? 0.97

00:26:19.000 We want to go. 0.97

00:26:21.000 Who does he think he is?

00:26:23.000 We want to go back to Egypt where we were slaves because at least we had meat. 0.97

00:26:34.000 Ungrateful.

00:26:36.000 Another favorite line in the book of Exodus, which is everything we are living through.

00:26:39.000 It's the turning point of the whole, get it, turning point of the whole book of Exodus, which is great.

00:26:44.000 Because everything is going in kind of this post-Genesis, Genesis 12, you know, history starts. 0.98

00:26:48.000 Abram, you're a bum. 0.97

00:26:49.000 Get up, leave your dad's house, right? 1.00

00:26:50.000 Boom.

00:26:51.000 All of a sudden, history starts, right?

00:26:53.000 And we get all the way to Joseph.

00:26:56.000 And then Genesis ends, Exodus begins, and there's this incredible line where everything changes.

00:27:05.000 And then there was a king, it says king, but Pharaoh is fine, who rose to power who did not know Joseph.

00:27:12.000 And that was, all of a sudden, everything changed.

00:27:14.000 So what did he mean?

00:27:15.000 Joseph saved Egypt from annihilation.

00:27:18.000 Well, God did, but he interpreted the dreams.

00:27:20.000 And that's very important.

00:27:21.000 Joseph never took credit for it.

00:27:22.000 He said it's God who's giving him the power.

00:27:24.000 Pharaoh is like, yeah, I have no memory of that. 0.92

00:27:27.000 And he became a tyrannical maniac.

00:27:30.000 I could replace it by saying, and then came a generation who did not know George Washington.

00:27:36.000 And then came a generation who did not know Abraham Lincoln.

00:27:40.000 That's what you're living through.

00:27:42.000 Whole book of Exodus, the tyranny, God's, started with a Pharaoh, a king, being like, meh, who cares if we, or I don't know, who's the Joseph guy? 0.91

00:27:52.000 Why do we have all these people here again?

00:27:54.000 Like, who are these Hebrews? 1.00

00:27:55.000 Like, why do they take Saturdays off?

00:27:56.000 Like, it's really weird.

00:27:59.000 Turn them into slaves.

00:28:01.000 Just like that.

00:28:02.000 If you do not have a memory of what came before, tyranny is going to come.

00:28:08.000 And then you get into Exodus 20, right?

00:28:11.000 God's covenant with his people continues, Ten Commandments, which if everybody has to follow the Ten Commandments, it's actually more than Ten Commandments.

00:28:18.000 That's a separate issue.

00:28:18.000 But because it really is.

00:28:21.000 There's a lot.

00:28:22.000 For example, you need to work six days, not just, there's a lot there.

00:28:25.000 It could be anywhere between 12 to 14, depending on how you read it.

00:28:29.000 But the first is, the first sentence is super important, right?

00:28:33.000 For I am the Lord, remember, I am the Lord your God who delivered you from Egypt. 0.99

00:28:36.000 In case you morons forgot. 0.98

00:28:40.000 You know, when I parted the sea and kwail off course and the manna thing and all this, I'm the God that delivered you from slavery. 0.99

00:28:49.000 And of course, they do forget and they do the golden calf because that's human nature, which is rebellion and ingratitude.

00:28:55.000 And that's who we are.

00:28:56.000 But the one that I do want to make sure I emphasize of the Ten Commandments is the only one that involves our nation and involves a promise.

00:29:03.000 The only one.

00:29:04.000 Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.

00:29:09.000 And everything that modern secular education aims to do, intentionally or unintentionally, is to break the bond between a parent and a child.

00:29:19.000 Everything.

00:29:20.000 It is directly against that commandment.

00:29:23.000 Totalitarians need to make families strangers. 0.95

00:29:29.000 They need to make moms and kids foreign to one another. 0.99

00:29:33.000 Strong families are the greatest threat to totalitarianism.

00:29:39.000 When Stalin took power in Russia, he taught everyone that your true mother is Mother Russia, the Russian government.

00:29:45.000 In Mao's China, the first thing he did was enlist Little Red Guard and pay kids and reward kids with candy to turn in parents to the gulag.

00:29:56.000 And that same generation is now running the Chinese Communist Party in China.

00:30:00.000 What do parents also do?

00:30:01.000 Parents have a memory of things before.

00:30:04.000 That's why it says, honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.

00:30:11.000 And that word honor literally means heavy, to treat your parents heavily, to treat that relationship not lightly.

00:30:18.000 So the word in Hebrew, heavily and honor, are the same word, and light and curse is the same word.

00:30:23.000 So if you were to treat them lightly, you were to curse them.

00:30:25.000 It's the same root in Biblical Hebrew.

00:30:29.000 And if you send your kid to Deerfield High School, no offense, there will be an overt or subversive campaign to ruin that bond.

00:30:42.000 So that's why we're here.

00:30:43.000 We're here because you're educators, because you guys have roles that have influence.

00:30:47.000 Some of you are in government schools, some of you are in private schools, some of you guys are in home schools.

00:30:52.000 We need to continue this education revolution.

00:30:54.000 We're here to partner with, there's so many organizations doing great work.

00:30:58.000 We need more.

00:30:59.000 More is more is more.

00:31:01.000 And I could tell you that we need to go on a rescue mission right now for the kids of this country that are currently being held hostage by this godless, secular situation that we find ourselves in.

00:31:13.000 We need to rescue those kids because there are so many great kids out there and parents that might mean well that have them in these just terrible institutions.

00:31:22.000 And we see the result, right?

00:31:24.000 The result is just terrible.

00:31:25.000 But there's a better, deeper way to educate the next generation.

00:31:31.000 We know it works.

00:31:32.000 When you do it right, you get leaders that you make statues to.

00:31:36.000 When you do it wrong, you get people that want to take statues down.

00:31:43.000 In the founding generation, there were about what we called 15 to 20 game changers, right?

00:31:48.000 John Jay, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, Gubin or Morris.

00:31:53.000 You could go through the whole list, right?

00:31:54.000 George Mason.

00:31:55.000 All classically Christian educated, every single one of them.

00:31:58.000 The question is, where are the game changers right now in America?

00:32:02.000 You have to be sowing into that. 0.64

00:32:04.000 And I know some of you as Christians, you say, sorry, it seems so overwhelming.

00:32:08.000 You know, the odds are stacked against us.

00:32:11.000 You cannot engage.

00:32:12.000 You have to do your duty to the divine as an obligation, as a form of worship, regardless of how the odds are stacked against you.

00:32:23.000 And so I'm incredibly hopeful.

00:32:24.000 I'm hopeful because homeschooling has multiplied in recent years.

00:32:28.000 Look at this appendance here.

00:32:29.000 This is beyond anything we could have imagined.

00:32:31.000 It's really beautiful.

00:32:32.000 And we're going to keep on doing this.

00:32:35.000 I'm hopeful because I really think people are finally starting to wake up in a very serious way.

00:32:39.000 I think Christians are really starting to see the spiritual dimension of what's going on.

00:32:43.000 I certainly pray that's the case.

00:32:46.000 And we're seeing a hunger, an appetite, a desire to educate kids in the proper way, in the way that is proven and biblical, not in this secular, industrialized model that does not enrich the soul of the student.

00:33:03.000 So that's what we're here to do.

00:33:05.000 And thank you guys for partnering.

00:33:06.000 And we'll do some questions with the time I have remaining.

00:33:08.000 So thank you.

00:33:18.000 So with questions, you can line up right in the middle row right here.

00:33:23.000 I definitely want to hear from some teachers or educators.

00:33:26.000 So anybody have a question?

00:33:29.000 Step one up.

00:33:33.000 Okay.

00:33:35.000 Yeah.

00:33:36.000 Thank you.

00:33:37.000 Good evening.

00:33:38.000 I just came from a conference where in my method of teaching, they changed the American flag for the rainbow flag.

00:33:47.000 My question to you is, you know, as a Christian person, someone too good, do you come in there and then? 1.00

00:33:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:52.000 Do you wait?

00:33:54.000 What would be the answer for that?

00:33:55.000 What do we do when we see things going on wrong?

00:33:56.000 Do you just make it pass?

00:33:58.000 So that's my point.

00:33:59.000 So you went to a conference and they replaced the American flag with the rainbow flag?

00:34:03.000 Yeah.

00:34:04.000 Okay.

00:34:05.000 Can I ask where you teach?

00:34:07.000 Look, I'm a Montessori teacher.

00:34:09.000 I think it's a beautiful system, but we're taking a thing by the wrong mentalities.

00:34:13.000 Okay.

00:34:13.000 Yeah.

00:34:15.000 So I can't quite, I'm going to stop short of giving you specific advice because I probably want you to still have a job, right?

00:34:23.000 But I would prayerfully consider how to navigate that.

00:34:27.000 I mean, they're not going to stop, right?

00:34:29.000 I get in trouble for saying this, but from people I don't respect, so I'm going to say it because I respect all of you.

00:34:34.000 There is an all-out agenda to groom kids in an LGBT agenda. 0.84

00:34:38.000 These people are groomers, okay? 0.67

00:34:40.000 And they don't like it when you say that, but why on earth do you need a flag that celebrates people's sexual activity to children? 0.98

00:34:49.000 That's what it is, period.

00:34:52.000 I don't think that would go over very well if you say that, but I'm just giving you my honest thought.

00:34:55.000 Let me tell you something more broadly as a Christian thing, right?

00:35:00.000 I love the Old Testament, as you may or can tell.

00:35:02.000 I spent a lot of time in Genesis, X, this, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

00:35:05.000 I think it's, thank you.

00:35:07.000 It's really forgotten.

00:35:08.000 Jesus loved the Old Testament too, regardless of what your skinny G pastor might tell you.

00:35:17.000 Jesus quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book.

00:35:19.000 So do the founding fathers.

00:35:20.000 They had that in common.

00:35:25.000 Someone said the Talmud?

00:35:28.000 Oh, he's Psalms more than Deuteronomy?

00:35:30.000 Okay.

00:35:30.000 I got to correct John MacArthur then.

00:35:35.000 So Then the Torah, the first five books of Moses, were written as a refutation of paganism.

00:35:46.000 It's at war with paganism.

00:35:48.000 We're living through outright paganism right now.

00:35:51.000 There is no, I use the word secular, and I have to stop using that word because it's actually not true.

00:35:56.000 There is no such thing as a secular society.

00:35:59.000 You're going to have some form of belief.

00:36:02.000 So you might not have Christian belief, but you know, when you study Leviticus 1, 2, and 3, and they have all these very complex rituals, you're like, oh, that doesn't apply to us, right?

00:36:14.000 Like how you kill an animal and how and then all of a sudden you read all the rules of the woke and you're like, they just take biblical practices and reappropriate it through whatever new lens.

00:36:27.000 Human beings, as we are made by God, need attachment to something.

00:36:31.000 We need symbols.

00:36:32.000 We need flags.

00:36:33.000 We need songs.

00:36:34.000 We need something that we can say that we're part of.

00:36:38.000 And the LGBTQ mafia, they take that flag and it has a religious attachment to it for some people. 0.94

00:36:47.000 And I mean, I say this, and I love saying it, pride is a sin, and why we have a whole month dedicated to a sin is very strange to me and doesn't make any sense.

00:36:59.000 Well, it does if you study it.

00:37:01.000 But that there, whether it be the earth worship or the religion of tolerance, these are all just repurposed old river civilization pagan beliefs that is nothing new.

00:37:14.000 It's the same spiritual battles that remanifest themselves.

00:37:20.000 And in some ways, it is polytheism versus monotheism.

00:37:25.000 And one of the great dangers of polytheism is if there's multiple gods and there's multiple moralities.

00:37:30.000 If there's one God, there's only one morality.

00:37:33.000 Every founding father was an ethical monotheist, every single one.

00:37:37.000 An argument that needs to be made and kids need to learn is the Declaration of Independence was the clearest document ever written for ethical monotheism in the history of the world.

00:37:47.000 And by the way, God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence.

00:37:50.000 And in fact, the last paragraph of the Declaration of Independence is literally a prayer.

00:37:56.000 We appeal to the supreme judge of the world.

00:37:59.000 That's a prayer.

00:38:00.000 That's how they used to pray in the 1770s.

00:38:03.000 And so to answer, I know there's a lot there, but is Montessori Christian or used to be or is?

00:38:10.000 Used to be, yeah.

00:38:12.000 I can't speak much more to that.

00:38:14.000 I mean, we're here to support you and pray for you, but I know me.

00:38:18.000 I would personally not be able to be part of an organization that raised the pride flag at all.

00:38:23.000 I personally would find somewhere else to spend my time.

00:38:27.000 So thank you.

00:38:29.000 What books are you recommending these days?

00:38:32.000 Yeah, so I prefer books that are future focused, like 1984 and Brave New World.

00:38:39.000 Yeah, you guys got the joke.

00:38:40.000 You guys are an educated bunch.

00:38:42.000 So, yeah.

00:38:45.000 So, a couple books I'd love to share with you guys.

00:38:50.000 I love our podcast audience.

00:38:52.000 They are the most brutally honest people on the planet.

00:38:55.000 I recommend in 1984, like a year and a half ago, I posted a podcast and I got this screeching letter in the mail because I didn't do the proper disclaimers that there was a sex scene in there.

00:39:04.000 So, if you're going to teach 1984, yes, there is a adult scene there.

00:39:09.000 You could skip over it.

00:39:10.000 It's actually not important to the story.

00:39:12.000 So, just want to let you know.

00:39:13.000 It is unbelievably important, though, I think, to teach 1984, okay?

00:39:18.000 I say this as somebody who has read hundreds of books on the topic of politics and dystopianism.

00:39:23.000 He hits it perfectly.

00:39:24.000 However, there's an equally as good book, Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

00:39:29.000 Okay, now, that's X-rated, okay?

00:39:31.000 That one is even worse than 84, okay?

00:39:34.000 When your kids are mature enough, or if you can think you could teach it in a way, people talk about Orwellian, they don't talk about Huxleyan.

00:39:41.000 Aldous Huxley was actually a contemporary of George Orwell, and he talked about totalitarianism in a different way.

00:39:48.000 He said, What would happen if all sexual privacy and norms go away, if everybody belonged to everybody?

00:39:55.000 Basically, he talked about widespread orgies.

00:39:56.000 He also talks about in the book something called Soma, a perfectly designed pharmaceutical that anybody could take at any time and have a pleasurable disconnection from reality.

00:40:06.000 Now, we would know nothing about that in today's time, right?

00:40:08.000 Far-off concept about taking a pill or a substance that can make us not attached with reality.

00:40:14.000 It is so spot-on because what he talks about is what if you were to distill it, 1984 with Orwell is: here's the danger of mass government surveillance and how privacy and freedom are linked together.

00:40:27.000 Orwell also talked about why truth matters and this dynamic between power and truth and kind of how they have a tension.

00:40:35.000 If you were to go to Huxley, though, in Brave New World, he says, What happens if there is no family?

00:40:42.000 And do tyrants benefit if people are able to get pleasure whenever they want?

00:40:50.000 And he actually argues that bad people are able to stay in power longer if you have no ability to control your carnal impulses.

00:41:01.000 That's not an argument made very often.

00:41:03.000 So, that's a whole book called Brave New World.

00:41:05.000 And the whole first chapter, by the way, is what would happen if you could actually artificially create human beings.

00:41:11.000 Yesterday, scientists exclaim they've created the first ever human embryo without an egg or a sperm.

00:41:18.000 Aldous Huxley, 1947 or 48, I think he published, I'm not mistaken, 51, predicted that that would happen in his lifetime.

00:41:25.000 He was a little bit behind the earth, literally.

00:41:26.000 So, it's very prophetic.

00:41:28.000 Okay, other books I love.

00:41:29.000 Someone who's actually had this book out in the lobby.

00:41:31.000 I saw it by Vashal Mengel Waldi.

00:41:33.000 It's unbelievably good.

00:41:34.000 The book that Built Your World.

00:41:36.000 It's an excellent book written by an Indian American who's amazing, and it talks about the Bible's significance in our culture, in our society.

00:41:48.000 Yeah, boy, what other books would be really important to share?

00:41:53.000 Oh, yeah, anything by C.S. Lewis.

00:41:55.000 Thank you for reminding me.

00:41:55.000 Yeah, so Abolition of Man, which is like my favorite education book, super short, easy.

00:42:00.000 And Pete Hegset's Battle for the American Mind.

00:42:03.000 I'm a huge C.S. Lewis fan.

00:42:05.000 I think C.S. Lewis is one of the most underrated apologists of the last hundred years.

00:42:10.000 And quite honestly, I think he's undercelebrated in Christian circles.

00:42:13.000 I know that might sound like quite a statement, but considering I think the weight and the accomplishment of his work and quite honestly, the spirit-filled prophecy, I think C.S. Lewis should be held at a very, very high celebratory standard in Protestant evangelical circles.

00:42:29.000 If you read Abolition of Man, he saw the entire problem of Western education and before anybody else.

00:42:36.000 And it's this whole idea of subjectivity and objectivity.

00:42:39.000 Okay, next question.

00:42:43.000 Hi, I'm Steve Fratt.

00:42:44.000 I'm Professor Emeritus here at Trinity.

00:42:47.000 Welcome.

00:42:48.000 That used to be 30 years.

00:42:51.000 And I taught intellectual history, world views.

00:42:55.000 I'm also a historian of science.

00:42:57.000 And so one of the frustrations I've had is that it seems to me, I know, I want to know what you think about this.

00:43:05.000 Besides the classics, what about the scientific revolution done within a Christian context?

00:43:11.000 You know, Copernicus, Brahe, Kepler, Galilei, and especially Bacon.

00:43:19.000 Yeah, Bacon.

00:43:20.000 Thoughts on the scientific revolution as a good as the start of modern, fair evidence and logic thinking, but also what people are afraid of since it's science.

00:43:34.000 Oh, it's science, but it's in a Christian context. 0.81

00:43:39.000 So I'd be interested in your thoughts.

00:43:40.000 And one other thing: animal farm.

00:43:43.000 Oh, animal, yeah, that Orwell's second greatest work.

00:43:46.000 Great question, sir.

00:43:47.000 Thank you.

00:43:48.000 So I'm going to do this as quick as I can.

00:43:53.000 So modern science, as we know it, was actually a Christian phenomenon.

00:43:57.000 So if you, before Christians, there were really no scientific breakthroughs. 0.89

00:44:02.000 Why would that be?

00:44:03.000 There were a couple of discoveries here or there.

00:44:05.000 Because if you believe that there is a creator who designed the world with intentionality and you go into the world to discover it because there's purpose behind it, then that gives you a reason to know and to understand.

00:44:18.000 Now, sir, I prefer Sir Isaac Newton.

00:44:21.000 He wrote more about Isaiah biblical prophecy than even Sir Francis Bacon had some problems, including the cover of his book, I always mispronounce it, the great instronation, instronation, where it actually shows two Roman pillars and a boat going right through it, as if he's saying we're trying to pierce antiquity into modernity.

00:44:41.000 But your point is really important.

00:44:43.000 So science, we as Christians should own, but it's totally different than what we're living through.

00:44:48.000 Because the Germans, who have a tendency to really mess things up, okay? 1.00

00:44:53.000 When you get a bunch of German intellectuals in a room, run, okay? 1.00

00:44:57.000 The Germans in the 1800s, they had a totally different approach to science, where Christian scientists in the 1600s and 1700s had humility and understanding of the hierarchy of nature.

00:45:10.000 There is a God and I am not him.

00:45:12.000 They sought to know, understand, and comprehend.

00:45:16.000 And the most important word that scientists do not have in their vocabulary, to wonder.

00:45:24.000 To wonder.

00:45:26.000 Scientists who came up with the scientific method were in awe and wonder of the complexity, the harmony, the design of our universe, from physics to biology.

00:45:37.000 They were, wow, that is amazing.

00:45:40.000 Then the Germans come along, those pesky little Germans, right? 1.00

00:45:44.000 And they had a totally different approach.

00:45:46.000 Part of it was Hegel and they drew from Rousseau.

00:45:48.000 They said, well, instead of understanding, why don't we seek to change nature to fit our image?

00:45:54.000 Why don't we try to exert power over the natural order?

00:46:00.000 And you then saw this totally change with, you saw Woodrow Wilson talked about in politics, where he said we should have an Founding Fathers had a Newtonian view of politics, but we should have a Darwinian view of politics.

00:46:13.000 I am not an expert on this, but I could play toe-to-toe with most people on it. 0.96

00:46:17.000 Darwin is trash, okay? 0.97

00:46:19.000 And you should have the courage to say that out loud and read Doubting Darwin. 0.99

00:46:24.000 It's an excellent book by secular intellectuals that just take Darwin to the woodshed for his guessing and his fake propositions. 0.85

00:46:33.000 And so Darwin changed everything.

00:46:35.000 But now modern science is not science.

00:46:37.000 It's not the science we know.

00:46:39.000 It is scientism.

00:46:41.000 It is a belief in changing the natural order to fit and accommodate our wishes.

00:46:46.000 I'm going to change the man to be a woman. 1.00

00:46:49.000 I'm going to crush the fetus, the baby, because I want to, not seek to understand or seek to know. 0.96

00:46:56.000 And that is the great tension because many of you say, wow, there's so much in science that I am in wonder or in awe or respect of.

00:47:03.000 But the German historicist view is, why wouldn't we try to exert our own power over humanity?

00:47:11.000 And you saw this during COVID, didn't you?

00:47:13.000 And this is why there's no, when you have no wisdom, what are you supposed to do with all these scientific breakthroughs?

00:47:19.000 With no wisdom, they can't answer the question, should we lock down schools?

00:47:24.000 With no wisdom, they can't answer the question, should we put masks on kids?

00:47:28.000 Because they have no basis to be able to determine good versus evil and no compass, no lens to answer those deeper questions.

00:47:35.000 So instead, they're not even talking about trust the science, right?

00:47:40.000 Force equal mass times acceleration, object restaurant, stay at rest.

00:47:43.000 They care more about trusting the scientists.

00:47:46.000 And I think a big Christian movement needs to be to reclaim science away from the secularists who do not, they look at nature not in awe and wonder.

00:47:57.000 They look at nature with contempt and for revenge.

00:48:02.000 They do not see the order of the logos and the cosmos and say there must be a creator.

00:48:07.000 They see it and say, I could have done it better.

00:48:12.000 And that is the divide in science in America today.

00:48:14.000 All right.

00:48:15.000 Thank you.

00:48:16.000 I do see my friend here.

00:48:17.000 Is that you, Chris, from Dream City?

00:48:19.000 Hey, Chris.

00:48:20.000 We have a great friend partner in Phoenix, by the way.

00:48:23.000 If any of you guys are there, a Dream City Christian, I just wanted to shout Chris out.

00:48:26.000 I thought that was you, man.

00:48:27.000 Good to see you.

00:48:28.000 So I'll take the last question before I get yanked off stage completely and because I have to actually run to another event.

00:48:33.000 Yes?

00:48:34.000 I'll try to make it quick.

00:48:35.000 So first, I just want to thank you.

00:48:36.000 I, two years ago, resigned my position as a professor of nursing and department chair to homeschool our girls.

00:48:42.000 Well, praise God.

00:48:42.000 That's the best decision ever on so many fronts.

00:48:45.000 They're here with me today.

00:48:48.000 And they actually, part of me homeschooling them was my husband and I said, you've got to find something extracurricular to do.

00:48:54.000 And so they started a Turning Point Activism Hub in our county.

00:48:57.000 Praise God.

00:48:58.000 They've done amazing with it.

00:48:59.000 They just got back from WYAT.

00:49:01.000 Why WYT? 0.99

00:49:02.000 Young women's. 0.62

00:49:02.000 Thank you. 0.62

00:49:03.000 Did they enjoy it?

00:49:04.000 They loved it.

00:49:05.000 I watched most of it online.

00:49:06.000 So when they got home, I was like, oh, and so-and-so, and they said this part.

00:49:09.000 And I was just amazing.

00:49:11.000 So thank you.

00:49:12.000 Thank you.

00:49:13.000 It's such a positive influence on them and so many other of our youth.

00:49:17.000 Second, how soon are you going to expand Turning Point Academy?

00:49:21.000 So maybe there's some more career opportunities.

00:49:24.000 We're in growth mode, right, Hutz?

00:49:26.000 I don't care.

00:49:27.000 I'm not so, I'm a little frustrated with healthcare these days.

00:49:31.000 I mean, that's the flawed approach of science now, right?

00:49:34.000 I mean, we are expanding.

00:49:36.000 We'd love to chat with you.

00:49:38.000 And having events like this means a lot.

00:49:41.000 I do want to mention something that there's this massive homeschooling revolution happening.

00:49:46.000 And I think it's one of the most positive developments in an ever negative news cycle, isn't it?

00:49:52.000 The amount of parents that want to take that control.

00:49:54.000 So thank you for saying that.

00:49:56.000 I'll close with this.

00:49:57.000 You guys are going to hear from some amazing speakers.

00:49:59.000 Please ask questions.

00:50:01.000 You know, we want you to be part of Turning Point Academy.

00:50:03.000 If we can give you resources, if we can give you training, if we can give you prayer and support, here's our crazy vision.

00:50:10.000 And we have a tendency of pulling them off because somebody laughed when I said we're going to have thousands of young ladies.

00:50:16.000 A couple years ago, I said, he'll never do that. 0.56

00:50:17.000 And you'll, oh, we'll have thousands of students.

00:50:18.000 He'll never do that.

00:50:20.000 I really believe that there can be a counter to these massive teachers' conferences that are out there that are done by the secular unions.

00:50:29.000 I'm sure you've seen them where they're pushing CRT and pushing DEI.

00:50:34.000 And so our vision one day would be to have 3,000, 4,000 teachers.

00:50:38.000 But this is where you guys are going to come in handy.

00:50:41.000 If we bless you these next couple days and you find this to be valuable, please get more teachers with you to come next time and bring them along.

00:50:50.000 Because this is going to be a word of mouth type revolution.

00:50:52.000 We're going to keep getting the word out.

00:50:53.000 But imagine 3,000, 4,000.

00:50:55.000 Hutz told me that this room directly touches 35,000 kids.

00:51:02.000 Is that not amazing?

00:51:03.000 35,000 kids.

00:51:05.000 So imagine if we get to 2,000 or 3,000.

00:51:08.000 And you're going to be such an important part to that.

00:51:10.000 Please keep turning point in your prayers.

00:51:12.000 We're working really hard.

00:51:14.000 I believe that we're in a really special time and moment.

00:51:18.000 I'm honored to be fighting alongside of all of you and be encouraged.

00:51:22.000 What you are doing is the most important thing to happen right now in the nation.

00:51:26.000 And we're here to help you and support you.

00:51:28.000 So, God bless you guys.

00:51:29.000 Thank you so much.

00:51:35.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:51:37.000 Email us your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:51:40.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

00:51:46.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 02, 2023

What is Wisdom? My Speech to the Turning Point Educator's Summit

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