The Charlie Kirk Show - What It Means to be a Man: Freedom Night in America with Sen. Josh Hawley

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, my conversation with Josh Hawley at Freedom Night in America, and then we take questions from the audience.

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00:00:15.000 Enjoy our conversation with Josh Hawley.

00:00:17.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:18.000 Here we go.

00:00:19.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:01.000 Thanks, Joe.

00:01:02.000 Please take a seat, everybody.

00:01:03.000 Great to see you.

00:01:04.000 We have a very special guest, and so I am going to only give some limited remarks tonight.

00:01:10.000 He traveled all the way from the swamp just for you guys, and he was up very, very early.

00:01:18.000 I just want to give some announcements.

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00:02:09.000 Bring a friend.

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00:02:20.000 Shouldn't be that controversial to say.

00:02:24.000 Keep us in your prayers.

00:02:25.000 We're traveling the country.

00:02:26.000 Did any of you see what happened when I went to Northern Arizona University?

00:02:29.000 It was kind of, that was something, wasn't it?

00:02:32.000 I wish I had that video to queue up.

00:02:34.000 It was really something.

00:02:35.000 I attend campus there and surrounded by hundreds of people that need Jesus.

00:02:41.000 Let's put it that way.

00:02:43.000 But there was a lot of support.

00:02:45.000 And then we did an event also at Arizona State University last week.

00:02:49.000 And I have to tell you, we also just did an event at San Jose State University two nights ago.

00:02:54.000 We are running into the same problem, though, every time we're doing these campus events.

00:02:58.000 We cannot find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend to hear our message.

00:03:04.000 Isn't that amazing?

00:03:07.000 There is hope out there, and it is a perfect segue.

00:03:10.000 So when I'm at Northern Arizona University, surrounded by 100 people screaming at me and yelling at me, and I was looking at the picture that evening, and something very interesting.

00:03:21.000 Every single one of the young ladies that was, people screaming were young ladies or men who thought they were women.

00:03:27.000 And it was really strange.

00:03:29.000 And I'll explain in a second.

00:03:30.000 So then I go to Arizona State University and I set up a card table and I speak out there and I spent about an hour and a half and I there was about 100 people there and I said timeout.

00:03:40.000 Every single one of the people there was a man listening very intently, very respectfully.

00:03:44.000 There's a new poll that shows that Gen Z men, 18 and 19 year olds, are the most conservative young men have been in 50 years.

00:03:56.000 Young ladies, not so much.

00:03:58.000 We have some work to do.

00:03:59.000 But that is a perfect segue.

00:04:01.000 Not only is our guest tonight one of the few courageous voices in the U.S. Senate, which he is, but he also has a very important book.

00:04:09.000 And let me just brag on Senator Hawley because I know you agree.

00:04:13.000 Senator Hawley, even though he's not from technically a border state, he is one of the few people in the Senate that believes we should secure our border instead of sending money to Ukraine while we are being invaded.

00:04:26.000 He deserves a lot of credit for that position because he gets a lot of pushback.

00:04:30.000 But his book, Manhood, The Masculine Virtues America Needs, is all about creating, instilling, and empowering the next generation of men to fight for liberty, fight for Christ, fight for our country.

00:04:45.000 There is a crisis of masculinity in our country.

00:04:48.000 And we are so blessed to welcome here tonight, Freedom Night in America, Senator Josh Hawley to talk about it.

00:04:54.000 Get on your feet and welcome Senator Josh Hawley.

00:05:00.000 Boy, I could tell, I can read the room.

00:05:02.000 I wish we had a senator like Senator Hawley, right?

00:05:05.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:05:08.000 Senator, you deserve a ton of credit and also our gratitude.

00:05:12.000 Eight hours round trip just for this event.

00:05:15.000 And so we're really, we're really touched by that.

00:05:18.000 He's going to be signing books afterwards.

00:05:20.000 We have 200 books out there, gift of any amount.

00:05:23.000 He's being super generous with his time.

00:05:25.000 Senator, welcome to the great state of Arizona.

00:05:26.000 Thank you so much.

00:05:27.000 It's great to be with you.

00:05:28.000 Thank you for having me.

00:05:29.000 So, Senator, let's, there's so much we could talk about with DC and all that, but honestly, talk about your faith.

00:05:36.000 We're here in a house of the Lord, Dream City Church, which is such an amazing job.

00:05:41.000 If this is not your home church, I recommend it should be your home church.

00:05:44.000 They do such a great job and has touched my life immensely.

00:05:48.000 Senator, tell us about your walk with the Lord.

00:05:50.000 Well, I'll just say this.

00:05:52.000 I think that the most important decision that I ever made was the decision to follow Jesus Christ.

00:05:58.000 When I was five years old, I sat on my dad's lap and invited Jesus into my heart.

00:06:05.000 And I often say that, you know, the most important conversation my father ever had with me and the most important thing that he ever gave me was telling me about Jesus and saying to me when I was five, Josh, do you want to pray to accept Jesus in your heart?

00:06:17.000 And I did that again when I was 12, a little bit older, and made a public profession of faith.

00:06:23.000 I was baptized.

00:06:25.000 But, you know, following the Lord, Charlie, has been the great adventure of my life.

00:06:28.000 And now I've got three kids of my own.

00:06:30.000 My wife and I do, a 10-year-old, an eight-year-old.

00:06:33.000 Those are my boys, and a two-year-old.

00:06:34.000 And I just tell my kids, you know what?

00:06:36.000 If you want to have an incredible adventure in your life, give your life to the Lord.

00:06:42.000 Follow Jesus with all your heart.

00:06:44.000 And you never know what will happen, but it'll be amazing because he's an amazing Lord.

00:06:49.000 Christ said, all the laws of the prophets hang on these two things.

00:06:53.000 Love your neighbor as yourself, Leviticus 19, and love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.

00:06:59.000 Senator, how do you follow God in the most godless institution that we have?

00:07:08.000 I'm curious.

00:07:09.000 I mean, how do you keep your spiritual disciplines a priority?

00:07:12.000 How do you stay on the right path?

00:07:15.000 Because a lot of people here probably think, oh, I work at a very godless place, or you work in the U.S. Senate.

00:07:23.000 Share your wisdom.

00:07:25.000 Well, you know, I think that the thing for me is I come home every night to my family.

00:07:30.000 And I was thinking about running for this job when my wife and I were praying about it because it wasn't something we'd intended to do.

00:07:35.000 But when we were praying about it, I sat down to talk with my pastor at home.

00:07:40.000 And he said to me, Josh, I'll tell you something right now.

00:07:43.000 If you do this and you don't keep your family together, then you're making a huge mistake and you're asking for a lot of trouble in your life.

00:07:50.000 He said, you got to remember where your first ministry is.

00:07:52.000 Your first ministry is to your wife and to your children.

00:07:57.000 So thank the Lord.

00:07:59.000 I have a wife who said that she would come along for the ride, that she was forward 100%.

00:08:05.000 So, Charlie, I come home to my family every night.

00:08:07.000 And for me, I come home, I see my kids, we eat dinner together, I put my boys to bed, I read to them, I pray with them. 1.00

00:08:14.000 I'm accountable to a woman in my life who, when I'm being a jerk, says, Josh, you're being a jerk. 0.99

00:08:19.000 And that anchor is critical. 0.99

00:08:21.000 And then the other thing, Charlie, I always say is that there's one thing, the most important part of my day is first thing in the morning when I get up.

00:08:27.000 I get myself up out of bed.

00:08:29.000 I go, I get my Bible.

00:08:30.000 I literally shut myself in a room.

00:08:32.000 We've got three kids, two dogs.

00:08:34.000 My house is a loud house.

00:08:35.000 So I try to get up early, shut myself in a room.

00:08:38.000 I sit down there with the word of God.

00:08:40.000 I read the Bible and I say, Lord, help me.

00:08:42.000 And that is the most important part of my day.

00:08:48.000 Put politics aside.

00:08:50.000 If every U.S. senator did that, the country would be in a much better place.

00:08:55.000 I fundamentally believe that.

00:08:57.000 If they started their day with God and acknowledging that they are not God, that would be a beautiful thing. 0.80

00:09:06.000 Senator, so much happening in D.C.

00:09:07.000 I know we're going to get to that, but this book is profound and it's really important.

00:09:12.000 Manhood, and for those of you watching online, you should check it out.

00:09:15.000 There is a crisis of masculinity.

00:09:18.000 It is unusual, and I mean this in a positive way, for a senator to write a book like this.

00:09:23.000 Typically, when a senator writes a book, it's some ghostwriter.

00:09:27.000 It's a picture of them on a farm they've never visited, with a gun they've never owned, with a new American flag, with some sort of poll-tested one-liner of my American story, right?

00:09:38.000 Vote for me in the future.

00:09:40.000 And honestly, you read it, I call it political popcorn.

00:09:43.000 It's just, you ever read these U.S. senator books?

00:09:45.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:09:46.000 This is different.

00:09:47.000 This is a profound and provocative and adventurous analysis of what's happening with men.

00:09:56.000 Tell us why you as a senator didn't write that kind of typical legislative book and what made you get into this genre and this topic.

00:10:03.000 Well, it's actually really simple.

00:10:05.000 I've got two boys at home.

00:10:07.000 My 10-year-old, Elijah.

00:10:09.000 My eight-year-old is named Blaise.

00:10:11.000 And then my two-year-old baby girls, Abigail.

00:10:13.000 By the way, if you want to know who's in charge of the household, it's Abigail. 0.91

00:10:16.000 She runs the house, including beginning with her daddy.

00:10:19.000 But, you know, my boys, Charlie, they're at an age when we're starting to think about together, what does it look like for them to become a man?

00:10:28.000 And, you know, as I'm talking to them about, okay, what does it look like?

00:10:31.000 What does a godly man look like?

00:10:32.000 What's it look like to follow the Lord?

00:10:33.000 What's it look like to take on responsibility?

00:10:35.000 I started asking myself, what are my responsibilities as a dad to help them grow into the men that God has called them to be?

00:10:43.000 And that's really where the book started.

00:10:44.000 And I can boil it down real simple.

00:10:46.000 Here's the message.

00:10:48.000 God has a call on each of our lives.

00:10:52.000 He designed you the way you are.

00:10:54.000 There aren't 100 genders.

00:10:55.000 There aren't a thousand genders.

00:10:56.000 There are two genders.

00:10:57.000 It's a good thing to be a man.

00:10:59.000 And we need more men in America who will stand up and take responsibility and lead.

00:11:05.000 That's their job.

00:11:06.000 Provide, protect, lead.

00:11:10.000 Serve those in your care. 0.65

00:11:11.000 It's a good thing to be a woman.

00:11:12.000 And this idea that if you're a woman and want to be, there's something wrong with you is insanity.

00:11:17.000 It's total insanity.

00:11:19.000 So the book is very simple.

00:11:20.000 It's just to look at what God says about what it means to be a man.

00:11:24.000 The book just tells stories from the Bible.

00:11:26.000 And I tell you, Charlie, of all the different reviews, none of which did I read, but of all the reviews that folks around me told me about, the one I love the most is apparently some Washington Post writer wrote, I can't understand this book at all.

00:11:38.000 It's totally incomprehensible.

00:11:42.000 I said, it's just stories from the Bible.

00:11:44.000 I mean, how hard is it to follow?

00:11:46.000 But this tells you to them, to the left, the Bible is incomprehensible.

00:11:50.000 And that's why we need the wisdom of the Bible more than ever today.

00:11:54.000 And we shouldn't be shy about saying it.

00:11:57.000 I find the Washington Post to be incomprehensible.

00:12:00.000 So I, anyway, so the Bible is the answer to every problem.

00:12:06.000 It's not a book.

00:12:07.000 It is the word of God.

00:12:08.000 It never returns void for those of us that study it and read it.

00:12:12.000 It can and should change your life the moment that you treat it that way.

00:12:17.000 Talk about some of the Bible truths that speak to manhood.

00:12:20.000 Genesis 12 comes to mind.

00:12:22.000 There you go.

00:12:23.000 Genesis 12, God calls Abraham.

00:12:25.000 What does he call him to do?

00:12:26.000 He says, Abraham, leave the comfort of your father's house. 0.99

00:12:33.000 Go out to a new place that I will show you and become the father of many nations.

00:12:38.000 Now, there's a couple things I take from that.

00:12:40.000 Number one is: if you want to have true significance of your life, if you want your life to matter, if you want it to mean something, answer the call of God on your life.

00:12:48.000 God calls to you, He has a purpose for you, He has a plan for you, and that plan is to join Him in the incredible work that He's doing in the world.

00:12:56.000 You want to matter for eternity?

00:12:57.000 Follow Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:13:00.000 Number one.

00:13:01.000 Number two, what is it do you notice that when God calls Abraham, Abram then, later Abraham, what is it that he tells him, he calls him to do?

00:13:11.000 He calls him to be a father.

00:13:13.000 Abram's not a father at that point.

00:13:15.000 He calls him and he says, I will make you a father.

00:13:18.000 I think there's a message in here for men, which is that what the world tells us to do, men, which is live for yourself, entertain yourself, and then do as you're told, right?

00:13:30.000 You know, is be compliant.

00:13:32.000 Don't rock the boat, don't cause any trouble, entertain yourself.

00:13:36.000 That's exactly the wrong message.

00:13:38.000 If you want your life to matter, follow the Lord Jesus Christ with all your heart, soul, strength, and go give yourself to other people.

00:13:46.000 Go become a husband.

00:13:47.000 Go become a father.

00:13:49.000 Go invest in other people.

00:13:50.000 Go carry the kingdom of God out into the world.

00:13:53.000 That's how you matter in life.

00:13:54.000 That's what God called Abram to do.

00:13:57.000 And Abram, which then became Abraham, which literally means father of all nations in Hebrew, he lived a very complicated life.

00:14:06.000 It wasn't easy at all.

00:14:08.000 Binding of Isaac, going to Egypt with Sarah didn't exactly handle that well.

00:14:14.000 But it was a deep life and it was a fulfilling life.

00:14:18.000 He was the first Jew and started this unbelievable story of cause set in motion.

00:14:22.000 Really is that Genesis 12 is almost a new start to the Bible.

00:14:26.000 What other truths, what other stories of the Bible stand out as men that are courageous, that are bold, that have purpose?

00:14:33.000 That is a word that you use repeatedly here in this book, purpose.

00:14:36.000 The Greeks would call that telos.

00:14:38.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:14:39.000 Because I think what so many men, maybe especially young men in our culture, and you all know this, fathers, husbands, grandfathers, what so many young men in our culture are suffering from is a total lack of purpose.

00:14:49.000 I mean, just look at the statistics.

00:14:52.000 More men are in depression, addicted, committing suicide than at any time in our country's history.

00:14:59.000 It is an epidemic in our culture.

00:15:02.000 We're also suffering from an epidemic of fatherlessness in our culture.

00:15:05.000 We've now had generations of men in America who do not have a father or even a father figure, which is why I say again to young men, you want to change your destiny?

00:15:15.000 You want to change the destiny of this nation?

00:15:17.000 Become a father.

00:15:18.000 But you asked Charlie about other men in the Bible we can learn from.

00:15:22.000 Take Joshua, for example.

00:15:24.000 Great warrior.

00:15:25.000 Joshua called to be courageous.

00:15:29.000 You know, what is it that we think most about with Joshua?

00:15:32.000 The Lord says to him, be strong and courageous.

00:15:36.000 Go and confront the things that are evil.

00:15:39.000 Go stand up to those who are condemning the Lord, working against the Lord, those who are standing in the way of the Lord.

00:15:45.000 Go and put your own life on the line.

00:15:47.000 And I think the lesson for men there is that, you know what?

00:15:51.000 At the end of the day, we're not called to preserve ourselves.

00:15:54.000 We're called to make ourselves expendable so that the Lord can be exalted, so that other people can live and flourish.

00:16:00.000 And I think there's something in that.

00:16:02.000 Every man wants that purpose.

00:16:04.000 And you know what, man?

00:16:05.000 We have it in us because that's how God made us.

00:16:08.000 We were made to matter.

00:16:09.000 We were made to sacrifice ourselves for others.

00:16:11.000 We were made to empower others to live and be all that they could be.

00:16:16.000 God has written that into our hearts as who He is.

00:16:18.000 And I think when you call men to that, that's why they respond and say, Yeah, that's what I want.

00:16:22.000 And we're starting to see that politically.

00:16:24.000 We're seeing it culturally of men that are starting to resist, just to say, the excesses of modernity.

00:16:31.000 And there's an entire portion of this book that focuses on a third rail topic, but that needs to be addressed in the church and more broadly, which is pornography.

00:16:42.000 Pornography is destroying marriages.

00:16:43.000 It's destroying young men. 0.78

00:16:45.000 And if you are a parent and you have a young man and you say, Oh, my kid doesn't watch pornography, you're probably lying to yourself.

00:16:51.000 I'm not saying this as any sort of cute way.

00:16:53.000 It is so ubiquitous.

00:16:55.000 It's so widespread.

00:16:56.000 It's so addictive.

00:16:57.000 It's so corrosive.

00:16:58.000 Talk about that.

00:16:59.000 You have an entire portion of this dedicated, and the media has gone after you because of that.

00:17:05.000 They hate this topic.

00:17:06.000 They hate it because they know that we're right about it.

00:17:09.000 I mean, listen, if you're a man, I don't think I have to explain this to you.

00:17:12.000 I mean, the numbers are astounding.

00:17:14.000 And in researching the book, I didn't even realize the extent of it.

00:17:18.000 The availability of porn, it is everywhere.

00:17:22.000 It is on every platform.

00:17:24.000 It is available at the touch of a button.

00:17:26.000 And particularly to our young men who have grown up with these phones, you know, where it is available at an instant.

00:17:33.000 And what we're seeing is, again, an entire generation of young men who now more and more have fewer and fewer relationships with real women and are sucked into the addiction of this virtual fake reality on their screens, on their phones.

00:17:51.000 And I just think we've got to be honest about it.

00:17:53.000 I mean, this is something that's happening all across our country, all across age groups, but especially with younger men.

00:17:59.000 And Charlie, we've got to, number one, say that for men who are struggling with this, and particularly if you are a believer, man, there is hope for you in Jesus.

00:18:07.000 I mean, this is not something you have to struggle with on your own.

00:18:10.000 The Lord is there.

00:18:11.000 His power can deliver you from this.

00:18:13.000 And if you want to know the true power of love and deliverance in your life, that is what Jesus can bring you.

00:18:20.000 So ultimately, the first answer to that need that drives men to look at porn and become addicted to porn is to know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:18:28.000 I mean, that is the key thing, number one.

00:18:30.000 But number two, we've got to be bold in saying to the rest of the culture that thinks that porn is perfectly fine and the media is saying that all the time.

00:18:38.000 No, it's not.

00:18:39.000 We've got to say it is not good.

00:18:41.000 It is not acceptable.

00:18:43.000 It is not healthy.

00:18:44.000 And to the young men, I just say again, our message has got to be: turn off the porn, come up out of your parents' basement, go take a real woman out on a date, and go get a job, you know?

00:18:54.000 And if you do that, your life will be a lot better.

00:19:01.000 Let's talk about, there's another part of this book where you say, king, meaning a man is called to be a king.

00:19:09.000 What do you mean by that in the book?

00:19:11.000 You know, every man is called to exercise the body.

00:19:15.000 The word the Bible uses is dominion.

00:19:18.000 That's the authority that God chooses to give us to help accomplish his purposes in the world.

00:19:27.000 This blows my mind every time.

00:19:27.000 Just think about this.

00:19:29.000 You know, it's not as if God needs any of us, right?

00:19:32.000 I mean, the Lord can do whatever he wants to do.

00:19:35.000 He does not need any of us, but he chooses to partner with us.

00:19:42.000 And I just think of this.

00:19:43.000 I told you I have three kids.

00:19:46.000 You know, my two little boys, 10 and 8, they love to help me do stuff around the house.

00:19:52.000 And I'll be honest with you, sometimes when I say, whether it's changing a light bulb or whether it's, you know, the other day we had to change all our door handles out.

00:20:00.000 And so I, you know, I was doing that.

00:20:02.000 And my kids are like, oh, Daddy, can I help?

00:20:04.000 Can I help?

00:20:04.000 And what I'm really thinking, just being honest with you now, is if they help me, it's going to take three times as long.

00:20:10.000 You know, the help doesn't exactly expedite things.

00:20:14.000 But in the moment, in this particular project, when we were changing all these door handles, I had just enough sense to say, absolutely, boys, I would love your help.

00:20:25.000 Why?

00:20:26.000 Because they're my sons.

00:20:28.000 And spending time with them is more important than any particular task.

00:20:32.000 I tell you that story because I think that's how God thinks of us.

00:20:35.000 Does he need us?

00:20:37.000 No.

00:20:38.000 Does he want to do things with us?

00:20:41.000 Yes.

00:20:42.000 So, men, he gives us authority to use that he delegates to us.

00:20:47.000 He does it for you too, women.

00:20:49.000 But I'll let the women speak to that. 0.96

00:20:50.000 For men, he gives us authority to use because he wants you to be his son. 0.86

00:20:56.000 He wants to know you as a son.

00:20:59.000 He wants to be your father.

00:21:00.000 He wants to bring you into his purposes in the world.

00:21:03.000 And part of what he wants to do is he wants you to be a king.

00:21:05.000 He wants you to exercise authority and to make your part of the world to bring order to it, to bring beauty to it, to make it something that glorifies God and to empower other people in your life.

00:21:17.000 That's who he is as a father.

00:21:18.000 That's what he wants you to be as his son.

00:21:21.000 And he gives you his authority to do it.

00:21:23.000 Charlie, it's an amazing thing.

00:21:24.000 We could talk for hours about it.

00:21:25.000 But I think for men, man, this idea that God is my father, he's calling me to be like him and he wants to partner with me, it's amazing.

00:21:32.000 Yeah, and in the New Testament, this drives some rabbis nuts: God is not just uses Jehovah or Adonai.

00:21:39.000 It is the word Abba in Greek, which is a personal father, that is a relationship that you are, it's a two-way street.

00:21:48.000 It's a completely different framing of how we view God, not just one that is as articulated in the Old Testament.

00:21:58.000 So it's a really interesting component of this.

00:22:01.000 You also have priest, which the idea of a priest goes all the way back to the Old Testament.

00:22:06.000 There's a whole book written about priests.

00:22:08.000 Leviticus is basically focused on this.

00:22:11.000 One of the most quoted now verses, which is a song that you've probably heard, the blessing, may the Lord keep you and let his grace shine upon you, is the priestly blessing in Numbers 6.

00:22:24.000 What do you mean by men need to be a priest?

00:22:27.000 I just mean that as men, we are called to bring the presence of God into every place that we go.

00:22:33.000 So your workplace, you're called to bring the presence of the living God into the place where you work.

00:22:40.000 And if you do that, you will transform it.

00:22:42.000 You're called to bring the presence of the living God to your family.

00:22:45.000 You're called to bring the presence of the living God to the little league team that you coach.

00:22:49.000 You're called to bring the presence of the living God into your family reunion everywhere you go.

00:22:53.000 You could put it like this: you owe the world an encounter with the living God.

00:22:58.000 And he wants to work through you to bring it.

00:23:00.000 That's what's amazing about it.

00:23:02.000 That's what's amazing about it.

00:23:03.000 And I just think that that reality is incredible, Charlie.

00:23:07.000 And again, that God would, you know, would ask me to help reveal him to the world, it's crazy.

00:23:12.000 It's like, has he met me?

00:23:13.000 I mean, you know, it's crazy.

00:23:15.000 But he works with us and through us.

00:23:18.000 He calls us to be his sons and he calls us to bring that encounter and that life-changing power everywhere that we go.

00:23:25.000 And I just think, man, there's no higher calling than that.

00:23:27.000 I love it.

00:23:28.000 So now let's connect it as we segue here before we take some questions.

00:23:33.000 You write this beautifully on the back of the book.

00:23:35.000 It has been a perennial question of political philosophy since the first republics were formed, whether a free nation could survive without soundness of character in its people.

00:23:47.000 The old-fashioned word for that is virtue, meaning not just moral uprightness, but the personal fortitude and vision such uprightness produces strength, in other words.

00:23:57.000 Senator, walk us through what this means for us politically as if we have grown boys masquerading as men.

00:24:07.000 What does that mean for our politic?

00:24:09.000 Because that's something that we talk about here at Freedom Night.

00:24:12.000 We talk about the faith component.

00:24:14.000 We talk about the cultural component.

00:24:16.000 What does it mean for the nation?

00:24:17.000 Jeremiah 29, 7, seek the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

00:24:24.000 If we're trying to seek the shalom of the nation, what does that mean if we do not rise up a new generation of strong men?

00:24:32.000 Well, let me just put it this way.

00:24:35.000 You can elect all the people to Congress and the White House that you want, and we should do that.

00:24:41.000 You could try to pass all the good legislation that you want, and boy, we should try to do that.

00:24:45.000 But if you want to change the direction of this nation, change the men in this nation. 0.95

00:24:51.000 If you want to change the future of America, put men back in the home. 1.00

00:24:56.000 You know, you want to deal with the youth violence epidemic?

00:24:58.000 Put a father in the home. 0.98

00:25:00.000 You want to deal with youth poverty?

00:25:01.000 Put a father in the home. 0.98

00:25:03.000 You want to stop violence against women, women, put a husband in the home. 0.52

00:25:07.000 So it's just, I think it's an affirmative call to men.

00:25:10.000 Listen, what we do in the next four or five years, I firmly believe this is the moment in history we're in.

00:25:17.000 What we do in the next four or five years will determine whether there is an America in 50 years.

00:25:22.000 That's where we're at.

00:25:24.000 And men, it's a turning point, you might say.

00:25:27.000 And men, I just want to say that what we as men do in the next four or five years will determine whether there's an America in 50 years.

00:25:35.000 That's where we're at.

00:25:36.000 So character matters and the character of men in this country matters.

00:25:41.000 And we need men who are willing to step up, take that responsibility, take on the burden, shoulder the load, and say, I'm going to lead my family.

00:25:49.000 I'm going to provide.

00:25:50.000 I'm going to protect.

00:25:52.000 Well, and also, so God's heart for his people is not to live under tyranny.

00:25:57.000 This is a repeated theme.

00:25:58.000 John 10, 10, the enemy comes to lie, steal, cheat, and destroy.

00:26:01.000 I have come to give life and life more abundantly, right?

00:26:04.000 That is the scriptures as accurately and succinctly portrayed in one verse that you could possibly imagine.

00:26:10.000 Talk about in our fight against tyranny.

00:26:13.000 I firmly believe that one of the reasons we are living in this totalitarian moment is because we have overly feminized the American society. 0.75

00:26:22.000 We are too feeling-based, too emotion-based.

00:26:24.000 And before people start screaming at me, you're going to prove my point if you disagree.

00:26:28.000 Like, no, I'm not that emotional.

00:26:30.000 Okay.

00:26:33.000 Let's just say everyone can be emotional, but we are way too emotion-based in our country right now.

00:26:38.000 Do you agree?

00:26:39.000 We have lost reason and we are too feeling-based.

00:26:42.000 That's a fact.

00:26:43.000 Now, you can get too masculine as a society, Mussolini, but you can get way too feminine.

00:26:48.000 We are living through it right now.

00:26:51.000 Senator, talk about that in our fight against tyranny.

00:26:55.000 This is the missing ingredient.

00:26:56.000 The missing ingredient are the tens of millions of young boys that have been told that you're toxically masculine, that are not living their ultimate purpose.

00:27:06.000 It's not a good sign, everybody, when, again, I'm not a big fan of college.

00:27:12.000 Let me be very clear.

00:27:13.000 But, you know, 62% of all people that are in college are women. 0.71

00:27:18.000 62%. 0.76

00:27:20.000 That's not a good sign.

00:27:22.000 It's not.

00:27:24.000 And you might say, well, where are the men going?

00:27:26.000 They're not really going anywhere.

00:27:27.000 It's actually called, we're literally living in Peter Pan, the lost boys.

00:27:32.000 No, it's not a joke.

00:27:34.000 There's literally right now 15 million lost boys in America.

00:27:37.000 And they're not, they don't go to college, which again is fine, but they're not even necessarily working or doing part-time jobs.

00:27:43.000 Senators, the numbers are unbelievable.

00:27:45.000 While their female counterparts get more master's degrees, more college diplomas, more PhDs, buying more homes, young women in America are less likely to commit suicide. 0.77

00:27:58.000 They're less likely to die at work.

00:27:59.000 They're less likely to die of a drug overdose.

00:28:01.000 I mean, the numbers are so startling, right?

00:28:03.000 And you have these 15 million lost boys that have no direction, no purpose.

00:28:09.000 And that's really bad if we're trying to fight tyranny because those are the ones that should be at the school board meetings.

00:28:16.000 Those are the ones that should be running for state representative. 0.98

00:28:19.000 Those are the ones that should be pushing back against this authoritarian garbage and nonsense. 0.98

00:28:24.000 Connect those dots for us, Senator. 0.97

00:28:25.000 Well, I just think of what Benjamin Franklin said, you know, famously coming out of the Constitutional Convention.

00:28:30.000 You all remember this story?

00:28:31.000 Somebody asked Franklin, an onlooker, you know, Dr. Franklin, what have you given us?

00:28:36.000 And he says, a republic, if you can keep it.

00:28:39.000 If you can keep it.

00:28:40.000 And what do you have to, what do you need to keep a republic, a self-governing republic?

00:28:45.000 You need strong, independent citizens.

00:28:48.000 And I have to say, that begins with the men.

00:28:49.000 You know, you have to be able to provide for yourself and to provide for your family and to hold down a job.

00:28:56.000 If you can't do that, then government will do those things, right?

00:28:59.000 And so what we're seeing is we're seeing where men aren't, government is. 0.87

00:29:04.000 So the weaker the men get, the stronger the government gets. 0.93

00:29:08.000 So now we've got government completely running the schools.

00:29:10.000 We've got government trying to take over the family.

00:29:12.000 We've got government now telling our kids that there is no such thing as male and female. 0.89

00:29:16.000 So fewer strong men, bigger and bigger government.

00:29:20.000 And Charlie, at the end of the day, I mean, you know, we know what the Lord's will is.

00:29:23.000 You look at what did he call the people of Israel to do?

00:29:25.000 The people of Israel were to serve the Lord and have no other king before him, right?

00:29:30.000 That was the Lord's heart when he called him out of slavery.

00:29:33.000 You'll have no kings before me.

00:29:36.000 He gave them a king later.

00:29:37.000 That was a concession to their weakness.

00:29:39.000 That wasn't his plan originally.

00:29:41.000 So I think it's the same for us.

00:29:43.000 What does he want?

00:29:44.000 He wants us to acknowledge no king but Jesus, to have no tyrant, nobody lords it over us.

00:29:51.000 This is why we govern ourselves because the Lord has given us the strength to do that.

00:29:54.000 But we've got to be able to provide for ourselves.

00:29:57.000 And then we've got to be able to provide for our families and those in our care.

00:30:01.000 If we can't do that, it's going to be impossible to be a free people.

00:30:06.000 And that's what's so incredibly important.

00:30:08.000 The Old Testament scriptures teach us freedom is not natural.

00:30:12.000 It's not automatic.

00:30:13.000 Remember, this is a recurring theme we talk about.

00:30:16.000 God delivers his chosen people out of Egypt, unbelievable miracles, parts of the Red Sea.

00:30:21.000 72 hours later, the Jews are complaining and saying, Who's this Moses guy? 0.76

00:30:26.000 Bring us back to Egypt because at least we had meat, cucumbers, melons, and we were safe. 1.00

00:30:32.000 They wanted to go back to slavery and not live in freedom, despite the fact that God blew quail off course and manna from heaven.

00:30:39.000 Complaining nonstop.

00:30:41.000 Freedom is a value.

00:30:42.000 It must be fought for.

00:30:44.000 We are not, we as human beings have original sin.

00:30:48.000 We are not good naturally.

00:30:50.000 That is a Christian teaching, by the way. 0.57

00:30:52.000 If there's this, if there's something that you can make sure your kid knows for the rest of their life is that human beings are automatically pretty crummy.

00:31:00.000 Most of American colleges will teach the opposite.

00:31:04.000 They'll say human beings are wonderful and evil is because of racism and homophobia and capitalism and lack of goods and services and all this stuff.

00:31:13.000 It's a hard issue.

00:31:15.000 We need Jesus.

00:31:17.000 We're broken from our birth and only Christ can redeem that.

00:31:21.000 But if you have only one side of the equation, and here, and Senator, we'll close with this.

00:31:25.000 We'll do some questions. 0.98

00:31:27.000 The tragedy is young women then have to act like men. 0.97

00:31:32.000 And I don't mean it just as the trans thing because that's bad enough as it is. 1.00

00:31:36.000 Tens of thousands of young women that are medically mutilating themselves and are on drugs that will irreversibly do damage to themselves.

00:31:43.000 I mean young women that are feeling unnecessary pressure to go in the workforce when in reality they want to do the heroically biblical thing.

00:31:52.000 They wish that there was a masculine man that they could marry and have kids with.

00:31:57.000 And they want a culture to tell them that that's a good thing.

00:32:00.000 And instead they say, ah, and it's amazing when I go to these campuses because when I talk to some of the young ladies, say, oh, what do you want to do with their life?

00:32:08.000 You could tell immediately, well, I guess I'm here to study 13th century lesbian theory. 0.83

00:32:19.000 Oh, really?

00:32:20.000 What are you going to do with that?

00:32:22.000 I don't know.

00:32:23.000 My parents told me I have to be here.

00:32:25.000 And I say, what do you really want to do?

00:32:28.000 And they say, well, I want to do the one thing that I'm not allowed to do.

00:32:31.000 I said, oh, what's that?

00:32:33.000 I wish that there was a man worth marrying and I want to have kids, but can't do that in today's culture.

00:32:39.000 She said, at least until early 30s.

00:32:41.000 I was like, you are being so lied to.

00:32:44.000 You are being so deceived.

00:32:47.000 Not only is it okay, it is necessary and it is beautiful for young women to do that.

00:32:54.000 But the thing that they say is they can't find strong men.

00:32:58.000 Final thoughts, Senator.

00:32:59.000 Well, and I would just say to the men out there, you know, our side of the bargain there is we've got to be willing to be the ones who step up and who provide and take on the responsibility.

00:33:13.000 I mean, I can't do better than just quote my wife, who is both the beauty and the brains of our operation, I'd like to say for the record. 0.87

00:33:21.000 But my wife has often said, she's like, you know, Josh, women aren't stupid. 0.96

00:33:25.000 You know, I mean, how has the human race survived? 1.00

00:33:27.000 She's like, women are not dumb. 0.96

00:33:29.000 It's like, women don't want to marry men who are just another child, you know, particularly if they have children. 0.99

00:33:35.000 It's like, I want to have children.

00:33:36.000 I don't want my husband to be one of them.

00:33:38.000 You know?

00:33:39.000 So they want somebody who's actually going to provide and be part, contribute to the family.

00:33:44.000 And I just think, you know, men, that is straight truth.

00:33:50.000 And it is also gospel truth.

00:33:51.000 That's what we're called to do.

00:33:52.000 And there's a great satisfaction.

00:33:53.000 I'll just, I'll finish with this.

00:33:55.000 Every man who knows this, who is a husband or father, man, there's nothing better in being able to say, I am providing for my wife and my children.

00:34:05.000 I am investing in their lives.

00:34:07.000 And, you know, seeing my, I can just say as a dad, seeing my boys, and I make so many mistakes as a father.

00:34:11.000 You know, you want to talk to me, you want to talk to me later about what it looks like to repent every day of all the mistakes you make?

00:34:17.000 I'm here for that talk.

00:34:18.000 I can give that talk.

00:34:19.000 You know, I mean, every day I got to ask the Lord forgiveness.

00:34:21.000 I didn't do that right as a dad.

00:34:22.000 I shouldn't have said that to my wife.

00:34:24.000 So listen, I'm not claiming perfection here.

00:34:27.000 I'm just saying this.

00:34:28.000 It is an incredible privilege to look at my little boys and to think, man, the Lord has entrusted these guys to me.

00:34:36.000 I've got a role to play in their life that could matter for eternity.

00:34:40.000 That's incredible.

00:34:41.000 That's incredible.

00:34:42.000 Every man should have that.

00:34:44.000 I love that.

00:34:46.000 Let's start lining up for some questions, everybody, please.

00:34:49.000 We have a fair amount of time.

00:34:51.000 So, look, the senator can ask stuff about Washington, D.C. and all that.

00:34:55.000 Keep the questions.

00:34:56.000 Let's get to as many as possible.

00:34:58.000 If I could be honest with you, it pains me because sometimes we take too long on the questions.

00:35:03.000 Let's get straight to the questions so we can get to more questions.

00:35:05.000 Okay.

00:35:06.000 We're all in agreement.

00:35:07.000 And then afterwards, we have 200 books.

00:35:09.000 The senator is generously going to sign as many of it as you want, Senator.

00:35:14.000 I know you got to get back to D.C. and figure out what they're doing there.

00:35:20.000 I'll just stay right here with y'all.

00:35:21.000 Yeah, seriously.

00:35:22.000 Everybody be happier.

00:35:23.000 You know, I get asked all the time, Charlie, you're going to run for office.

00:35:27.000 And I say, every time I meet someone from D.C., they don't want to go back.

00:35:30.000 And that's not a good sign.

00:35:31.000 So I was like, no, I'm not running for anything.

00:35:33.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:35:34.000 We'll start with you.

00:35:35.000 Hi, Senator.

00:35:36.000 Thanks for being with us.

00:35:38.000 So I heard KJP, I call her Coringe John Pierre, say yesterday or today that it was the Republicans' fault that we have this mess at the border.

00:35:50.000 And I also heard Senator Representative Jordan yesterday say that the House passed a very comprehensive immigration bill.

00:36:00.000 Can you get us up to speed as to why that didn't go anywhere in the Senate?

00:36:07.000 Absolutely, I can.

00:36:08.000 The Chuck Schumer, who runs the Senate, has absolutely no interest in securing the border.

00:36:13.000 None of the Democrats do.

00:36:15.000 I mean, they're just not interested in it.

00:36:17.000 I just actually introduced legislation myself a couple days ago.

00:36:21.000 I guess it was yesterday.

00:36:22.000 And it's a very simple piece of legislation.

00:36:24.000 It just says this: if Joe Biden and the federal government are not going to enforce their immigration laws, then let's let the states do it.

00:36:30.000 Somebody should do it.

00:36:33.000 So clearly, our government's not going to.

00:36:36.000 So my bill is real simple.

00:36:37.000 It just says, states, you can go out and enforce the immigration laws, federal immigration laws.

00:36:41.000 You can do deportation.

00:36:42.000 You can do it.

00:36:43.000 Somebody's got to do it.

00:36:44.000 And I just, you know, I don't want to belabor this point because I suspect we agree, but I'll just say this.

00:36:50.000 There have been over 300,000, I believe it is, 300,000 children trafficked across the border and sold into sex slavery and labor trafficking slavery in this country just in the last two years.

00:37:05.000 It is the biggest human trafficking operation in the history of this nation.

00:37:09.000 It is right across the southern border.

00:37:11.000 This administration is enabling it.

00:37:14.000 They are facilitating it.

00:37:15.000 It is evil.

00:37:17.000 It's not just bad or wrong or unfortunate.

00:37:19.000 It is evil and it has to stop.

00:37:24.000 It is the largest, I'm going to call it slavery operation in the modern era. 0.96

00:37:30.000 Meanwhile, they are lecturing us about slavery that happened 200 years ago and facilitating slavery happening with children today.

00:37:38.000 It's not an exaggeration.

00:37:40.000 It is not hyperbole.

00:37:41.000 My man.

00:37:43.000 Hi, Senator.

00:37:46.000 Since you know these people in the Senate, do you think that the Democrats are going to change their ways?

00:37:52.000 Because I think it's sick of what they're doing.

00:37:56.000 Well, that makes two of us.

00:38:01.000 I will just say this about the Democrats.

00:38:04.000 You know, I think I work with a lot of these folks.

00:38:06.000 And listen, I think that most of them, most of them, really sincerely believe in what they're doing.

00:38:13.000 And so I don't think it's that they're insincere.

00:38:14.000 I just think it's that they're dead wrong.

00:38:16.000 You know, I mean, they're just completely wrong.

00:38:19.000 They're wrong about, you know, let me put it to you this way.

00:38:22.000 Our president says all the time, President Biden, he says all the time that we are in a struggle for the soul of America.

00:38:30.000 He's right about that.

00:38:32.000 It's about the only thing I agree with him on, but he's right about that.

00:38:34.000 The problem is that he's totally wrong about America's soul.

00:38:38.000 He thinks that our soul, our history, our nation is fundamentally oppressive and evil, and that's why they need to deconstruct it and tear it all down and completely remake it.

00:38:48.000 And you and I know just the opposite is true.

00:38:51.000 This nation was founded on the principles of the Bible.

00:38:54.000 It is the best nation in the history of the world.

00:38:59.000 And we need to reclaim it, revitalize it, re-empower it.

00:39:04.000 Amen.

00:39:04.000 That's the best I can do.

00:39:06.000 God bless you, my man.

00:39:07.000 Yes, sir.

00:39:09.000 Big fan, Charlie.

00:39:10.000 And Senator, oh, it's a pleasure being here and just listening to you today.

00:39:14.000 My question is: I had an original question, but I'm going to change it right now.

00:39:18.000 It seems like it's a money scheme, pretty much working on kids' feelings as opposed to the mental disorder, right?

00:39:26.000 And I see that there's a lot of doctors and also some pharmaceutical companies are making millions, millions of dollars off of kids' feelings and affirming them as if affirming them by cutting their generos or their breasts is going to make things better.

00:39:42.000 And then obviously they're being put on drugs that are not FDA approved.

00:39:46.000 And I'm not sure how that's even, it's incomprehensible for me to even understand how that is even going.

00:39:51.000 But my question to you, is there anything that we can do to come after these doctors that are performing these surgeries that are underage kids?

00:39:59.000 And also these pharmaceutical companies are making millions of dollars.

00:40:03.000 Did you get all that?

00:40:04.000 Yeah, I think I did.

00:40:04.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:40:05.000 The answer is that we ought to be able to sue them.

00:40:08.000 Is that the doctors who have carried out this form of child abuse should be liable in court?

00:40:13.000 And the pharmaceutical companies ought to be liable in court.

00:40:17.000 Let me just say something about, because you really put your finger on it.

00:40:21.000 You know, one of the things that I always ask myself in Washington is, where's the money coming from?

00:40:26.000 You know, follow the money.

00:40:27.000 We got these gender clinics that are springing up all over the United States.

00:40:31.000 By the way, even in Europe, Europe, not conservatives, Europe, they have shut down these gender clinics because they're so terrible for kids. 0.73

00:40:39.000 But here in the United States, they're popping up everywhere.

00:40:41.000 And the question's got to be, where's the money coming from?

00:40:43.000 I tell you where the lot of money is coming from.

00:40:45.000 It's coming from the pharmaceutical companies who are making billions of dollars, destroying our children.

00:40:52.000 So people sometimes ask me, are you a fan of big pharma?

00:40:55.000 Absolutely not.

00:40:56.000 They are some of the worst people in this country, let's be honest.

00:41:00.000 And we ought to be able to go to court and sue them.

00:41:03.000 I tell you something these companies fear.

00:41:05.000 They fear a lawsuit with a jury award for a billion dollars.

00:41:09.000 That's what they fear.

00:41:10.000 And that's what the victims, these kids who have had their future stolen from them by these pharma companies and by these so-called doctors, they ought to be able to go and sue the socks off these folks.

00:41:21.000 And I tell you what, that would put a stop to it.

00:41:26.000 Hello, my name's Oliver.

00:41:28.000 I'm 15 years old and I'm the president of a chapter.

00:41:31.000 And also I work at our church, the Trinity Church.

00:41:35.000 And I was wondering what can people my age do, I'm 15, to like, you know, change the course of America and see what it can be in 50 years and make it so there is an American in 50 years.

00:41:48.000 So what advice would you give to people my age, my generation who are getting better?

00:41:53.000 But what would you give?

00:41:56.000 Man, I would just, first of all, you are an inspiration just being here tonight.

00:42:00.000 So thank you for being who you are.

00:42:02.000 That's amazing.

00:42:05.000 I would just say this, being who you are is what's going to change this country.

00:42:10.000 Being someone who is willing to, number one, who follows the Lord, number two, who's willing to go out and be bold in your faith and say, this is what I believe.

00:42:16.000 This is what is true.

00:42:17.000 I'm not going to back down.

00:42:19.000 In the face of opposition, I'm not going to be cowed.

00:42:21.000 I'm not going to be silent.

00:42:23.000 And then, you know, going out and listen, getting a job.

00:42:27.000 If you, at your age, if you get up in the morning, you know, put on your clothes, go to school, then go get a job, you're ahead of like 98% of all of your cohort.

00:42:37.000 You know what I mean?

00:42:38.000 So we need more of that in America.

00:42:40.000 And one day I would say, man, when the time comes, get married, start a family, and be a good man.

00:42:46.000 If you will live as a good man, as a bold man, as a strong man, God will use you in a powerful way.

00:42:52.000 And that is the key to our destiny.

00:42:54.000 I'm 100% convinced.

00:42:56.000 Thank you for being here.

00:42:57.000 Stay involved with Turning Point USA.

00:42:59.000 God bless you, men.

00:43:01.000 Thank you, Senator, for speaking to young men.

00:43:04.000 My question is, how can I encourage the young men around me?

00:43:07.000 Thank you, and God bless you both.

00:43:08.000 Oh, that's a great question.

00:43:09.000 How can I encourage the young men around me is the question.

00:43:12.000 I think what you can say is to the young men is that, hey, listen, there's nothing that is awesome or attractive or interesting about a man who is only interested in entertaining himself.

00:43:25.000 You know, because what the culture, the message that the culture is sending to young men right now is just entertain yourself.

00:43:31.000 Just spend your life on entertainment and then do as you're told.

00:43:35.000 And I think that the message we need to send is quit entertaining yourself and start giving your life to other people.

00:43:41.000 Start living your life for others.

00:43:44.000 Be willing to take a risk.

00:43:46.000 Be willing to make a sacrifice.

00:43:50.000 Be willing to give yourself away.

00:43:52.000 That's what being a husband is.

00:43:53.000 That's what being a father is.

00:43:54.000 That's what everything in life worth doing is, is giving yourself away for somebody else.

00:43:59.000 I think that if young men in your life hear that from you, it would make a huge difference, a huge, huge difference.

00:44:05.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:44:08.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:44:09.000 Thank you for doing everything you do.

00:44:12.000 We appreciate you.

00:44:13.000 And Josh, my question for you is: how do you keep the strong faith that you have going to that circus every day?

00:44:23.000 I don't know.

00:44:24.000 I just can't understand it.

00:44:27.000 You know, I guess it's just this.

00:44:31.000 I guess that when I look at the scripture, when I look at the Bible, and I look at Joseph, who was in a pretty tough place and who served in a pretty tough place, and I look at Daniel, heck, when I look at David, what I see is not so much extraordinary men, although those guys were extraordinary.

00:44:49.000 What I see is an extraordinary God who will sustain the people that he calls.

00:44:55.000 So I am a very ordinary person, as my wife and children will tell you.

00:44:59.000 You know, I mean, as any of you, you spend five minutes with me.

00:45:02.000 Just ask my team.

00:45:03.000 They're over here.

00:45:04.000 They'll be like, you know, let us tell you about Josh.

00:45:06.000 I'm a very ordinary person, but we serve an extraordinary Lord.

00:45:10.000 And so the only thing I know to do is just try to keep my eyes on the Lord and say, Lord, if you send me, I will go.

00:45:17.000 And if you will go with me, it's what Moses prayed, right?

00:45:20.000 Lord, don't send me unless you're going to go with me.

00:45:22.000 But if you go, then I will go.

00:45:24.000 And that's how I have hope for the future: is because, listen, you think about this country.

00:45:29.000 There's been all kinds of times in our country's history when you would have said, man, how is the United States ever going to make it?

00:45:35.000 But I don't think God is done with this country yet.

00:45:37.000 I think God has a future for this nation.

00:45:40.000 And because I believe in him and have hope in him, I have hope for our future.

00:45:43.000 And that's what keeps me going.

00:45:50.000 Praise the Lord.

00:45:52.000 Thank you, Senator Josh and Charlie, for your fruitful work for the Lord and the country.

00:45:59.000 My name is John Savona.

00:46:00.000 I wanted to know: what can all of us do to help ensure election integrity in the next cycle?

00:46:09.000 Oh, great question.

00:46:12.000 Great question.

00:46:13.000 And, you know, listen, in states like this one, where we're sitting right now with the, I mean, you guys vote for like three months, right?

00:46:22.000 I mean, it's a long, it's election day.

00:46:24.000 We don't do it that way in Missouri.

00:46:26.000 I will just say this.

00:46:27.000 I just think that every place where we have, where we have a conservative majority, we've got to do everything we can to make sure that I think ballot harvesting ought to be banned.

00:46:39.000 I think that we ought to say you've got to have the voter ID 100%.

00:46:43.000 We should have federal voter ID.

00:46:46.000 You know, you ought to have, if you're going to do absentee ballots, they ought to have to be notarized and signed.

00:46:50.000 Now, in this state, for example, where you have none of those laws, I think that the answer here is that I'm Republican.

00:46:58.000 Republicans are going to have to, we're going to have to legally, we're going to have to stand up and compete on the same terms as everybody else.

00:47:05.000 So I just think that we can't anymore say as Republicans that, well, we'll only just vote on Election Day and we won't do any of the mail-in balloting.

00:47:12.000 I just think we're not going to be able to do that anymore.

00:47:14.000 In states like this one, where the laws are what they are, I can't change them.

00:47:18.000 All the voters of the state, I hope maybe you change them one day, but we can't change them.

00:47:22.000 We've got to stand up an operation legally to compete on the same terrain and to go out there and to get the vote and to bank the vote and to go and recruit folks all across the state.

00:47:33.000 Yeah, a couple thoughts.

00:47:34.000 There's so many issues with this state right now that's just beyond frustrating.

00:47:40.000 If we just tell everyone to vote again on election day, we do not have the infrastructure to facilitate that.

00:47:45.000 Stephen Richer is not going to change that.

00:47:47.000 We have voting centers.

00:47:49.000 We never should have had voting centers here in Maricopa County.

00:47:52.000 Voting centers is code for people who vote on election day are going to have to wait in a long line.

00:47:59.000 And so here's how I personally am going to vote.

00:48:02.000 I'm live right down the street, right?

00:48:05.000 It's not going to be by mail.

00:48:06.000 It will be in-person early voting the Friday or Saturday before election day.

00:48:10.000 That is not 100% secure, but it's better than not voting at all.

00:48:14.000 I'm just going to be honest, okay?

00:48:16.000 And it's better than getting when I showed up to go vote for Kerry Lake at the Scottsdale voting center.

00:48:23.000 I had a two and a half hour waiting list and a Chinese fire drill.

00:48:27.000 And people, I mean, how many of you experienced that?

00:48:29.000 On, yeah, exactly.

00:48:31.000 That is a sabotage.

00:48:33.000 They sabotaged us.

00:48:36.000 And so I'm with Josh on this.

00:48:38.000 We have nothing but bad choices.

00:48:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:48:40.000 I wish I had a better answer.

00:48:41.000 We have to figure it out of what is the best bad option we have.

00:48:46.000 The worst decision is to not vote at all.

00:48:49.000 I'm not a big fan of mailing in a ballot.

00:48:51.000 I'll be very honest with you.

00:48:53.000 If there are people that are comfortable with that, it's better for them to mail in than for them not to vote at all.

00:48:58.000 But in-person early voting has been underutilized in Maricopa County.

00:49:04.000 It has been significantly underutilized, okay?

00:49:08.000 Again, not going to say it's the most secure, but you might say, well, Charlie, how do we fix it?

00:49:13.000 They got us between a rock and a hard place, guys.

00:49:15.000 They have the governor's mansion, they have the AG's office, and the Secretary of State.

00:49:20.000 And so we have nothing but pretty poor options.

00:49:23.000 So this is the final thing that does need to happen: I wish we had a National Republican Party that would spend the necessary millions of dollars for the lawsuits that need to happen here because we can win some lawsuits here.

00:49:37.000 That can change stuff.

00:49:39.000 For example, one of the most incredible revelations from Kerry Lake's lawsuit, which I supported 100%, that got glossed over by a judge, was that the average time that the signature was verified was half of a second.

00:49:54.000 So that might seem insane.

00:49:56.000 The judge said, oh, that's not a big deal.

00:49:57.000 That means someone's just there clicking a button.

00:49:59.000 They're not doing their job.

00:50:02.000 No one's verifying signatures.

00:50:03.000 They're just approving every single ballot.

00:50:06.000 That's a really good attack vector for a well-funded law effort to come in and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, this needs to be looked at by a fair judge, which there are still some very fair judges in the state, thankfully, not all of them, but some that can say it should be a minimum of five to ten seconds per signature, right?

00:50:25.000 I could list a thousand things like that.

00:50:27.000 The problem is it's super expensive.

00:50:30.000 And I don't know.

00:50:31.000 Josh could tell you what the Republican Party is too busy spending their money on right now.

00:50:36.000 Not that.

00:50:36.000 So that's our answer.

00:50:39.000 I wish we were in a better spot, to be honest.

00:50:41.000 Thank you.

00:50:45.000 Hello, my fellow brother in Christ.

00:50:47.000 My name is Jesus Rodriguez.

00:50:48.000 And just the question I have for you today is: you know, as you were saying earlier in today's presentation, a lot of us didn't really grow up a generation.

00:50:59.000 Like there's generations that didn't grow up with a father.

00:51:02.000 And not only am I a part of that generation, I didn't grow up with a mother.

00:51:06.000 I would really appreciate it if you would like just give some words of guidance and like share your moment of deliverance and what it would, what us as a generation of young men should do in just being trendsetters of Christ and our Lord and Savior, you know?

00:51:24.000 Man, first of all, thank you for being here tonight.

00:51:26.000 That's an awesome question.

00:51:30.000 I think part of the hope that we have in Jesus Christ is that for those of us who either didn't grow up with a dad or for many men, your relationship with your dad was not a good one, not a good experience.

00:51:42.000 Part of the incredible hope we have in Christ is God is our Father.

00:51:46.000 He will supply all of our needs.

00:51:48.000 So He will be the Father more than the Father that we have never had.

00:51:52.000 Number one.

00:51:52.000 Number two, this is where we really need the church.

00:51:56.000 Men, can I just talk to the older men in the room?

00:51:58.000 Older men, we need you. 0.97

00:52:01.000 Young men need you.

00:52:02.000 You know, when you get to your retirement age and you put in your time and you're, you know, that's wonderful.

00:52:08.000 But you know what?

00:52:09.000 We need you to do more than go to the golf course.

00:52:11.000 I don't mean to offend you.

00:52:12.000 But we need you to do more than just that.

00:52:14.000 You want to go get in and around?

00:52:15.000 That's fine.

00:52:16.000 But we need you to turn to the young men all around you who do not have fathers and do not have mentors.

00:52:22.000 And we need you to mentor them.

00:52:25.000 To give to them what the Lord has given to you.

00:52:29.000 And I got to tell you, I had, I think about now, I grew up with a dad who was there for me and loved me and invested me.

00:52:34.000 But you know what?

00:52:35.000 I also had coaches who poured into me.

00:52:38.000 I tell some of these stories in the book, actually.

00:52:39.000 Some of the most significant men in my life are the men who coach me, volunteer to take time to coach me.

00:52:44.000 They changed my life.

00:52:46.000 So men, grown men, older men, that could be you.

00:52:50.000 You could change, you don't, it doesn't even have to be your own kid or grandkid.

00:52:53.000 You can change the destiny of somebody's life.

00:52:56.000 And finally, I just say to you, man, you know what?

00:53:00.000 The destiny that you inherit does not have to be the destiny that you contribute.

00:53:04.000 It does not have to be your future.

00:53:07.000 And so when you choose to follow the Lord, you choose to step out.

00:53:11.000 You can change your destiny and you can change the destiny of the people around you by being the kind of man who you never had in your life.

00:53:18.000 So, man, I just bless you in the name of the Lord.

00:53:21.000 Thank you for being who you are.

00:53:22.000 You know, I mean, why don't we just, I see some men extending our hands to him.

00:53:26.000 Why don't we just do this?

00:53:27.000 Why don't we just, man, why don't we just bless this guy?

00:53:29.000 Can we just bless you, Lord?

00:53:30.000 Thank you for this young man.

00:53:31.000 Thank you for who he is.

00:53:33.000 Thank you for who you called him to be.

00:53:35.000 Lord, thank you for the incredible plan you have for his life.

00:53:39.000 Lord, would you reveal yourself to him as father in a way that he's never experienced before?

00:53:43.000 Would you fill him with your spirit in a new and powerful way?

00:53:46.000 And would you make him a leader of men?

00:53:49.000 Would you help other him?

00:53:50.000 Would you help him to lead other men and for other men to discover you through him by the power of the spirit for the glory of you?

00:53:59.000 Lord Jesus, amen.

00:54:01.000 Thank you, sir.

00:54:01.000 Beautiful.

00:54:02.000 Thank you.

00:54:03.000 I'll just add to this.

00:54:05.000 This goes for men or women, men or women.

00:54:08.000 If you're out there and you have a lot of time, we underutilize, we bash technology a lot, but we could also use it for our good.

00:54:14.000 Every day, try to find five to seven young people that you're texting, encouraging Bible verses to, that you're lifting up, right?

00:54:20.000 That doesn't require any money.

00:54:22.000 It doesn't require you even to take them out to dinner or lunch.

00:54:25.000 Find those people in your life, youth people that are here, teams that you're coaching.

00:54:29.000 I could tell you, you know, some people in this audience do that, especially for those of you that are in the fire, in the fire, in the fight, when I get text messages, Charlie, keep going.

00:54:37.000 We love that you're doing.

00:54:38.000 It means the world, especially for a young man or a young woman that might feel like the whole world is against them.

00:54:44.000 That's an action item, right?

00:54:46.000 So if you have more time than you know what to do with, find those five to seven people, create that text prayer list, and text them every day, praying for you.

00:54:54.000 You know, let me know how I can help you.

00:54:56.000 That could change somebody's life.

00:54:58.000 That's a good action item to come out of tonight.

00:55:01.000 Hi, Angela.

00:55:04.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:55:05.000 Hi, Senator.

00:55:06.000 I'm so thankful that you're here.

00:55:08.000 My question is about freedom of speech.

00:55:11.000 So shortly after Biden occupied the White House, he gave a live speech where he said that African Americans don't have government issued IDs.

00:55:25.000 And that's why it's racist to, you know, require voter ID.

00:55:32.000 I walked away from my television.

00:55:34.000 got my purse with my voter ID in my wallet and drove in my car.

00:55:39.000 But recently I was banned from posting on the White House Instagram because I commented on Senator, or not Senator, sorry, Buddha Judge's comment about extremist Republicans and the shutdown and how dangerous it was.

00:55:55.000 And so my comment were my opinions that we should stop sending money to Ukraine, that we should stop the invasion of the southern border.

00:56:03.000 And Instagram slapped me with a label and said I'm no longer able to post on the White House Instagram until December.

00:56:11.000 I don't care.

00:56:12.000 But my question to you is, how is our current president able to flat out lie as if they're facts and his cult followers, how are they able to lie with freedom of speech, but they're not slapped with a label.

00:56:28.000 They're not fact checked or anything like that.

00:56:32.000 That is such an important question.

00:56:36.000 Thank you for being here for your boldness in asking it.

00:56:38.000 And let me just agree with you by saying this, that recently, for the first time in American history, a federal court actually found that this president, he's the first president in American history from whom this is true, violated the First Amendment of the United States by directing the biggest social media companies in America to censor people like you.

00:57:01.000 It was systematic.

00:57:02.000 It was deliberate.

00:57:04.000 It was political targeting.

00:57:05.000 And it wasn't.

00:57:06.000 Charlie's been shadow banned.

00:57:08.000 I bet many of you have.

00:57:10.000 You know, Charlie's a public figure.

00:57:11.000 I'm not saying it's okay.

00:57:12.000 It's not okay, Charlie.

00:57:14.000 But Charlie's a public figure.

00:57:15.000 But this White House, they've done this to you and they've done it to probably millions of Americans.

00:57:20.000 And it's the first time in our history that the president, the White House, has used the biggest companies in America to do this.

00:57:29.000 And it is flatly unconstitutional.

00:57:31.000 The answer to your question is they don't have the power to do it.

00:57:34.000 It is absolutely unconstitutional.

00:57:36.000 It is a violation of the First Amendment.

00:57:39.000 And we just have to call this out for what it is.

00:57:42.000 You know, the Senate recently had a hearing on book banning.

00:57:48.000 Is what they called it?

00:57:50.000 You know, who knows?

00:57:50.000 The Democrats called it, of course.

00:57:52.000 And I went to the hearing and I said, I'm so glad that we're here today to talk about censorship because we have the biggest book banner, book burner in American history sitting in the White House who's trying to shut down all of our speech, such that if you post on his website or you want to circulate a petition about your school, your kids' school, that we don't think we should wear masks or be taught CRT, this White House will have you banned.

00:58:16.000 So all I know to do is we have to continue to expose this at every turn and to do what the states are doing, some of them, including my home state of Missouri, which is to take these people to court.

00:58:28.000 And in that lawsuit, I'll close with this.

00:58:30.000 In that lawsuit, the reason it's so important, the state of Missouri brought the lawsuit.

00:58:34.000 The court actually slapped an order on Joe Biden's White House and said, you can't meet anymore with these social media companies because you are using them to do illegal stuff.

00:58:44.000 That's the point we're at in America.

00:58:46.000 It's a sad point, but we've got to continue fighting.

00:58:49.000 So thank you for being bold.

00:58:50.000 I want to try to answer a couple more, but also be respectful.

00:58:53.000 It's 1050 your time, Senator.

00:58:55.000 So we're pushing that, we're pushing the boundary here.

00:58:57.000 Yes.

00:58:59.000 Okay, so I guess that would have been election interference, which I guess is an impeachable offense, right?

00:59:08.000 That's what I've been saying.

00:59:09.000 But around the world, his whole presidency is an impeachable offense.

00:59:12.000 Those things, and it just doesn't seem to go anywhere, but that's not my question.

00:59:16.000 My question was how to encourage young men.

00:59:21.000 I do have a son who luckily is a junior in college right now, but I can kind of see him struggling still.

00:59:29.000 He's just kind of going through the motions.

00:59:30.000 And so many of his friends are the same way.

00:59:34.000 I'm an Army brat.

00:59:36.000 And by the way, thank you for being here, Mr. Holly.

00:59:38.000 My name is Holly, H-O-L-L-Y.

00:59:41.000 I can remember that.

00:59:43.000 But my grandfather and my father are both military.

00:59:49.000 And if my son had shown any inling to want to go in the military, I really would have had second thoughts about it because the embarrassing withdrawal from Afghanistan was just shameful.

01:00:08.000 Those families that are still suffering to this day with a commander-in-chief that just doesn't care.

01:00:14.000 So how do you encourage boys to want to step into a position when they're going to put their lives on the line just to be disrespected?

01:00:24.000 Same with the men and women in blue and first responders, all of them.

01:00:29.000 They're being so disrespected.

01:00:31.000 Thank you, Senator.

01:00:34.000 Try to keep it for two minutes and then we'll get together.

01:00:36.000 Okay.

01:00:39.000 Let me just say this.

01:00:41.000 Let me first just say something more generally about maybe your son and this young man in particular or young men in general.

01:00:48.000 And I think it's this.

01:00:49.000 I think young men need to hear from us that they are needed. 0.96

01:00:55.000 Because what they're told all the time by the culture is they're useless. 0.96

01:01:01.000 They're told that they're the problem. 0.94

01:01:03.000 You know, young men are told by being a man, you contribute to systemic oppression and racial injustice and climate change and da-da-da-da-da.

01:01:15.000 Fill it in, right?

01:01:16.000 Just by being a man, you're responsible for all of these things.

01:01:20.000 And I think what we need to say to young men is just the opposite.

01:01:23.000 That, again, being a man is a good thing and we need you.

01:01:27.000 This country needs you.

01:01:29.000 Your family needs you.

01:01:31.000 The people in your life need you.

01:01:33.000 And God has chosen to work with you.

01:01:36.000 There are things that will not happen in this world, men, unless you stand up and take on responsibility and go out there into the world.

01:01:45.000 I mean, it is an awesome, awesome calling and an awesome responsibility.

01:01:48.000 And I think men need to hear that.

01:01:50.000 And I think as we call men to that, then many of them will say, you know what?

01:01:55.000 I do want to go put my life on the line and serve my community by wearing blue, serve my country by wearing the uniform of my country.

01:02:01.000 And I just think that whether it's in uniform for the United States or whether it's serving in the police force, living or being a first responder, whatever it is, living a life of sacrifice is a praiseworthy thing.

01:02:14.000 And I think that we should say to young men, there is nothing higher you can be doing with your life than living a life of sacrifice for your community, for your country, for your family.

01:02:24.000 This will be the final question.

01:02:26.000 Last question, my man.

01:02:28.000 So the question is, see, kids don't get Bibles, get the Bibles daily, kids don't, and schools don't.

01:02:37.000 What are we going to do about putting the Bible and the Bible reading back in the school so that way kids like me, I'm 25 years old, my name is Elijah.

01:02:48.000 Kids like me putting the Bible back into like elementary schools, middle schools, high schools, and get the faith built back inside the schools.

01:02:58.000 Great question.

01:03:01.000 Well, listen, you know, I think all those years ago when the Supreme Court said, our Supreme Court said that you can't read the Bible in school and kids can't pray in school and heck, you can't even pray before football games. 0.88

01:03:11.000 That was just ridiculous and is totally wrong. 0.52

01:03:13.000 You know, we should be able to read the Bible. 0.97

01:03:16.000 People should be able to pray before football games for heaven's sake.

01:03:20.000 And here's the broader point.

01:03:21.000 Let's just be honest.

01:03:22.000 This nation was founded on the principles of the Bible.

01:03:26.000 And we should be able to acknowledge that.

01:03:28.000 We shouldn't be shy about it.

01:03:30.000 We should teach it as part of our history.

01:03:32.000 That is who we are.

01:03:33.000 And that's what makes us an exceptional nation, is that we're founded on the principles of the gospel.

01:03:39.000 And I just think this is, as Christians, I just think that now more than ever, man, we have got to teach the Bible to our children, but we also need, we need Christian schools.

01:03:52.000 So can I just say that, can I make a plea to the pastors out there?

01:03:55.000 We need you to start schools.

01:03:57.000 We need schools, schools, schools.

01:04:01.000 We have got to make available.

01:04:03.000 If COVID didn't teach us that, nothing will.

01:04:05.000 And we really, we need the church to step up.

01:04:07.000 I mean, we are in a desperate way here.

01:04:09.000 We need the churches all across this country to open up schools and to teach our kids and to take kids from every background and every walk of life and teach them about Jesus and teach them about the Bible and also teach them how to read and write because they're not learning anywhere else.

01:04:24.000 So as you guys know, we have Dream City Christian, a turning point academy that we have here locally.

01:04:30.000 I also, I was just made aware of this, Senator.

01:04:33.000 There's an organization out of Ohio that's really started small called LifeWise.

01:04:38.000 And they reread the 1950s Supreme Court ruling on prayer.

01:04:42.000 I don't know if, you know, many people don't know this.

01:04:45.000 The Supreme Court said no prayer in school, no Bible in school, but they made three exceptions, which is they said that the school actually has to allow one hour a week during school hours for a kid to be able to have religious instruction, but it has to be off campus.

01:05:00.000 The parents have to sign a waiver and no money of the school can be used.

01:05:04.000 So this nonprofit called LifeWise in Ohio said, okay, we'll raise the money, find the space, and the school has to allow one hour of religious instruction.

01:05:15.000 And no one's ever thought to build a charity around this.

01:05:18.000 I just learned about this a couple days ago.

01:05:20.000 This could be a revolution in government schools across the country.

01:05:24.000 And we're going to talk Luke about this to get one at every single Scottsdale school where during school hours, one hour of Christian education could occur.

01:05:34.000 And so I love the question.

01:05:36.000 So in closing, everybody, I know you agree with me.

01:05:39.000 How impressive is Senator Hawley?

01:05:40.000 Isn't he just something else?

01:05:44.000 He really is.

01:05:45.000 And so I want, everyone, please stand.

01:05:47.000 I want us to pray for Senator here.

01:05:50.000 And he's going to be signing books.

01:05:52.000 And we're probably going to run out of books.

01:05:54.000 So when you go at home, try to buy it anyway.

01:05:56.000 Manhood, you know, it's whatever, 15, 20 bucks.

01:05:59.000 But we need leaders like Senator Hawley.

01:06:01.000 Join me in praying for Senator Hawley.

01:06:03.000 Lord, we pray for Senator Hawley.

01:06:06.000 We pray for everyone in D.C.

01:06:07.000 We pray for our leaders and those in authority.

01:06:09.000 As you say in 1 Timothy, we pray for wisdom and guidance and courage and boldness for the senator as he continues to fight for what is good, true, and beautiful.

01:06:17.000 And we pray for our country.

01:06:19.000 We are in trouble.

01:06:21.000 And we need you.

01:06:22.000 In your name we pray.

01:06:23.000 Amen.

01:06:23.000 Everybody, thank you so much.

01:06:25.000 And the senator will be signing books.

01:06:26.000 Thank you.

01:06:30.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:06:31.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:06:34.000 Thanks so much for listening.

01:06:35.000 God bless.

01:06:39.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 11, 2023

What It Means to be a Man: Freedom Night in America with Sen. Josh Hawley

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