The Charlie Kirk Show - What Makes The New Right Different?

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00:00:04.000 Will Tebow joins the show to talk about the Joint Chiefs of Staff and CQ Brown.

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00:00:28.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:38.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:39.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:40.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

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00:01:26.000 Joining us now is a very smart and good man, Mike Cernovich, filmmaker, author.

00:01:31.000 You can check out his substack, mikecernovich.substack.com.

00:01:34.000 Mike, great to see you, Mike.

00:01:36.000 I just want to get your initial reaction.

00:01:38.000 You're a deep thinker of what we are living through.

00:01:41.000 It's unlike anything we've ever seen before.

00:01:44.000 Yeah, every time I wake up, there's more news that I can't believe.

00:01:48.000 It feels like a hallucination.

00:01:51.000 You're hanging out on a Sunday night.

00:01:54.000 Winded down a little bit with the family.

00:01:57.000 You open up X and, wait, Dan Bongino's deputy director of the FBI? That can't be right.

00:02:04.000 Clearly, I'm on some kind of weird journey.

00:02:08.000 And then, no, no, it is right.

00:02:10.000 Okay.

00:02:11.000 So I find myself checking the news like three times.

00:02:15.000 Even people like you that I trust completely and fully.

00:02:19.000 Even then, it's like, wait a minute, Bongino's deputy director?

00:02:22.000 I better...

00:02:22.000 Better make sure that isn't a screenshot that maybe got passed around.

00:02:27.000 And they go, okay, well, I guess it really is the case.

00:02:31.000 So that is the mood.

00:02:34.000 And the way I've been trying to describe it is there's a new self-confidence on the new right.

00:02:40.000 And that is what a lot of people are struggling with, especially people of good faith.

00:02:46.000 Our people can feel it and understand the energy.

00:02:50.000 But if you're an interloper or someone on the outside, you would go, what are these people?

00:02:54.000 What are they really about?

00:02:56.000 And we have an ideology, of course, and you talk about that often enough.

00:03:01.000 What I'm interested in kind of talking about is the self-confidence that people like J.D. Vance have.

00:03:07.000 So a good example of how this is demonstrated is that the way the National Review and a lot of other so-called conservative media outlets would manipulate the narrative.

00:03:18.000 Is they wouldn't have strong people like you, Posobiec.

00:03:21.000 They wouldn't have the big guns to come on or ban it.

00:03:25.000 They wouldn't have the big guns come on and talk directly.

00:03:27.000 They would use these pass-throughs.

00:03:29.000 Oh, here's Eric Weinstein and Joe Rogan to explain Curtis Jarvin.

00:03:35.000 Well, why don't you just talk to Curtis Jarvin, right?

00:03:38.000 Here's Jordan Peterson to explain Charlie.

00:03:42.000 Well, why don't you just have Charlie Kirk?

00:03:44.000 Why don't you just have Jack Posobiec?

00:03:46.000 Why don't you...

00:03:47.000 Directly talk to them.

00:03:49.000 And what they would do, the game, was to make it look like the narrative was much slimmer than it was.

00:03:58.000 And to not have the real strong advocates put the point of views out there.

00:04:03.000 And now everybody realizes, just bang on X, right?

00:04:07.000 X has always been pugilistic.

00:04:09.000 And now we have a vice president of the United States.

00:04:12.000 Who, when confronted with shaming language by a neocon like Niall Ferguson, says, okay, let's just do this.

00:04:19.000 Let's do it.

00:04:20.000 Let's bang, right?

00:04:21.000 And I mean that in the combative fighting way, not a different context.

00:04:26.000 And everybody has the confidence to do this now because the new right is the party of religion, philosophy, history.

00:04:34.000 If you want to understand obscure historical topics, you can read about...

00:04:40.000 I was red-pilled on the conquistadors and how that was actually far more complicated than we were taught in history, the Spanish Civil War.

00:04:49.000 I know that you and Jack talk about that a lot.

00:04:51.000 So there's an intellectual component to the new right, but there's also a, we don't need your head paps.

00:04:58.000 We don't need your little cookies, right?

00:05:01.000 We don't need the libs to say, oh, these people, the most- Good little gnome.

00:05:06.000 Good little gremlin.

00:05:07.000 Yeah, they would always do this, oh, well, Charlie Kirk actually makes some good points. 0.99

00:05:12.000 Shut up! 1.00

00:05:13.000 Charlie Kirk makes a lot of great points. 0.98

00:05:15.000 That's why you won't have him on, and that's why you guys try to act like an intermediary between the energy of the modern Christian conservatives, the modern new right, and everybody realizes that we just have to go direct, and also people, of course, go very hard.

00:05:31.000 JD's obviously more civil than other people, so I think that's the biggest...

00:05:35.000 If I had to explain it because somebody from another country was asking me, hey, what's up?

00:05:40.000 And I would go, it's a new self-confidence.

00:05:42.000 It's an American chauvinism.

00:05:43.000 It's a little bit of swagger.

00:05:45.000 Wouldn't you agree?

00:05:46.000 I totally agree.

00:05:48.000 I want to zero in on one thing you said here, which is that our side has a philosophical depth to it that I have not seen in my 13 years of doing this.

00:06:01.000 We get described by our critics as just being power politics and just caring about winning elections.

00:06:07.000 But MAGA has matured in its love of philosophy, of ancient things, to wonder about really what matters, what is good, true, and beautiful, of the great books, the great authors, and the great traditions of the West.

00:06:24.000 Speak about this, Cerno, about how the right gets caricatured as just being You know, a bunch of guys from the back hills of Appalachia, when in reality, it's the leaders that are openly talking about Aquinas, thinking about Montesquieu, Rousseau, Locke, and understanding the implications of these ideas when it comes to politics.

00:06:47.000 Yeah, there's always been a philosophical depth to working class people.

00:06:53.000 That was shrugged around.

00:06:55.000 I remember being in, you know, I grew up with very humble backgrounds.

00:06:58.000 You would see the road to surfdom on somebody's bookshelf.

00:07:01.000 A mechanic, somebody who worked, in my case, I worked on a junkyard.

00:07:05.000 It wasn't unusual to randomly see Hayek somewhere.

00:07:09.000 And that was, we were, but we were always taught like, oh, these people didn't go to college or they weren't fancy university people.

00:07:15.000 Sure.

00:07:16.000 Well, you know, a lot of us didn't have money.

00:07:18.000 Guess what?

00:07:19.000 But as a lot of people from humble backgrounds, You know, the Posobics, a lot of people from different backgrounds where your dad might be a machinist, your dad might have a different kind of factory job. 0.74

00:07:31.000 My dad worked in factories.

00:07:33.000 We grew up now and we have that working class common sense.

00:07:38.000 We can speak every language, which is why so much effort has been made to try to intermediate.

00:07:45.000 I talk like a working class person.

00:07:47.000 You know, they had to remind me, you know, Andrew reminded me before I went on to watch my language, which I should anyway, because we're on national TV, and I should just watch it anyway now, being a father of four children.

00:07:59.000 But we have that aggression.

00:08:01.000 There's a tonality that we have.

00:08:03.000 You have it.

00:08:04.000 JD has it.

00:08:06.000 And it's very much, and I'm not threatening violence, obviously, but within the working class world, there's very much an understanding that you've got to...

00:08:14.000 Watch how you talk to people, right?

00:08:16.000 And these snobs, or they think they're snobs, they always talk down to us. 0.97

00:08:22.000 And we never had our own platforms, a way to respond.

00:08:25.000 Whereas if you went into a small town, if you went to a small town and you talk down to people like the way these guys do, it would be a different situation.

00:08:35.000 So they try to talk down to us.

00:08:37.000 Oh, Neville Chamberlain was a pacifier, and he was responsible for every great evil of World War II, and we can't be like him, and somehow the Ukraine war is just like that, right? 0.86

00:08:50.000 And J.D. goes, no, no, bro.

00:08:52.000 No, this isn't going to work.

00:08:54.000 And that's how everyone is.

00:08:55.000 And the reason that these old-school neocons, these former leftists, as they call themselves, even though they showed that that was always a fake PSYOT thing, They can't handle this.

00:09:05.000 We can talk Aristotelian virtue ethics.

00:09:08.000 We can talk Platonism.

00:09:09.000 We can talk Nietzscheism.

00:09:12.000 We can talk Aquinas.

00:09:13.000 We can talk about the jurisprudence and the paths of the law.

00:09:17.000 And it terrifies them because they can't.

00:09:20.000 They're so philosophically glib.

00:09:22.000 I know because I would watch them and I would think, you haven't done any of the reading, but you can always tell who has or hasn't done the reading.

00:09:30.000 And there's a glibness.

00:09:33.000 Yeah, there's a glibness to these people.

00:09:35.000 And so, for example, I would just, you know, because now they're all like, oh, all these guys care about power.

00:09:40.000 It's like, no, actually, we care about virtue.

00:09:42.000 The conservative movement, especially the Christian conservative movement, even people who aren't necessarily Christian but are in that Western value, no, no, it's more Aristotelian.

00:09:51.000 It's virtue ethics.

00:09:52.000 It's the way you lead.

00:09:54.000 It's showing moral courage.

00:09:56.000 It's conducting yourself in a courageous way because chief of all virtues is courage.

00:10:02.000 They don't have any understanding of this, and they claim they understand Hegel, even though I've read Hegel, and it's a bit laughable that they haven't done that.

00:10:10.000 The phenomenology of spirit.

00:10:12.000 Hegel made the simple complex when good thinkers make the complex simple.

00:10:18.000 Not to say I'm an expert of Hegel, but there's three or four takeaways and not something worth centering your life around.

00:10:26.000 I would say that the word I would use is poise.

00:10:31.000 I think the new right has a poise to itself, that's assured of our abilities.

00:10:38.000 It has a courage element to it, but very centered, not scattered, not distracted, but grounded, and a quiet confidence.

00:10:49.000 And I believe it comes from, of course, our love of philosophy, which you've articulated very well, but also what we've been through.

00:10:57.000 When you get through...

00:10:59.000 A failed color revolution that was COVID woke January 6th.

00:11:05.000 One, two, three.

00:11:07.000 And all of a sudden they're mad because a bunch of federal workers get an email.

00:11:10.000 I'm sorry.

00:11:11.000 We went through COVID woke January 6th.

00:11:17.000 You get through that, you have a baptism by fire.

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00:12:05.000 That is 1-800-4-RELIEF, 1-800-4-RELIEF. So let me ask you, Mike, what pitfalls can we avoid of what you saw in Trump 1 that we have to make sure we do not repeat here during Trump 2?

00:12:20.000 Yeah.

00:12:21.000 The professionalism of staffing is so well handled that I barely, even other than the big hits, I barely see that as my duty anymore.

00:12:31.000 The first term, remember, a lot of people become frustrated with me because I would report about staffing that ended up, unfortunately, being right.

00:12:39.000 And there was a lot of saboteurs.

00:12:40.000 I don't see a lot of sabotage.

00:12:42.000 I think that the, and I see this already happening, the big weakness that the conservative movement has.

00:12:50.000 And I say this with great love is, you know, when someone converts to Christianity, there's always like, welcome to church.

00:12:56.000 There's this welcoming spirit amongst Christian conservatives.

00:13:00.000 And what happens is a lot of people who call themselves, oh, I was a former liberal.

00:13:04.000 I used to be a hardcore leftist.

00:13:06.000 But now I agree with you.

00:13:08.000 And then everybody says, welcome.

00:13:09.000 You know, welcome.

00:13:10.000 And the next thing you know, a year later, they're calling you Nazis or they're claiming that you're woke.

00:13:16.000 They're claiming that you're throwing Roman salutes when you're waving at people.

00:13:20.000 And I really want the bulwark to be up against that, to tell people it's good for people to change their minds, and you don't want to be mean to people who claim they're a former leftist, but you don't have to promote them, right?

00:13:34.000 You don't have to pop them up, because 99 out of 100 times, this is an act, right?

00:13:41.000 You have to be gentle as doves, but people forget wise as discernment.

00:13:44.000 Everybody forgets that verse.

00:13:46.000 I find it interesting.

00:13:47.000 They only use the gentleness part.

00:13:49.000 No, you have to be wise like a serpent.

00:13:51.000 You have to recognize that there's a lot of shenanigans happening.

00:13:56.000 You must be wise as a serpent, but gentle as a dove.

00:14:00.000 So let me ask you, as we are proceeding, do we possibly have a threat of being too cocky, too confident, where we become a little too uppity, a little too high on our own supply?

00:14:14.000 I love that you said that because I've been feeling, even within myself, because there's all this masculine energy.

00:14:21.000 It's almost like football energy or fighting energy where you're a little bit too wound up.

00:14:26.000 And that's something that I'm trying to be mindful of in myself and others.

00:14:32.000 Logos is rationality, but also there's a component of we broke free from the COVID longhouse.

00:14:38.000 We broke free from the moral skulls, but we don't want to lose our morality either.

00:14:43.000 Right.

00:14:44.000 And that energy, which is great, needs to be channeled in a productive way.

00:14:49.000 So there's something that I check within myself every day is we don't want to let people lecture us.

00:14:55.000 Don't use power.

00:14:57.000 Slow down.

00:14:58.000 Slow down.

00:14:59.000 Because that's sabotage.

00:15:01.000 But we do want to recognize that we won the popular vote and we have to focus on the real coalition.

00:15:07.000 So my...

00:15:07.000 North Star, the new coalition, is not these people who claim to be former leftists.

00:15:11.000 I think that is all the psyop and it's obviously been exposed.

00:15:14.000 It's the Maha Moms. 0.98

00:15:16.000 So as I conduct myself in a certain way, even though people know I can be a little crass and whatever, don't post anything that the Maha Moms, that could turn away the Maha Moms, right? 1.00

00:15:29.000 So we need to, as we recalibrate this new line.

00:15:32.000 I think that is a centerpiece.

00:15:34.000 I would say...

00:15:35.000 Sorry to interrupt, Mike, but I think Maha Moms is number one. 1.00

00:15:38.000 I think skeptical of foreign wars, younger crypto bros, kind of the people I represent, we can't do anything to kind of necessarily turn them off.

00:15:46.000 What would you say is the third pillar of this new coalition we must care about?

00:15:50.000 The people who are like, there's this wonderful woman, I think her name is Katie, she works for Andreessen Horowitz.

00:15:56.000 There's people who are kind of moderate, they're sort of watching and trying to figure things out.

00:16:02.000 So I do think, and I think everybody is, So far, behaving themselves well.

00:16:06.000 But I do think we need to be mindful of our P's and Q's and do our best to let people know that there is a depth to what we talk about.

00:16:14.000 It isn't just raw animalistic energy.

00:16:16.000 The raw energy is about putting forth a better vision of America.

00:16:21.000 And frankly, myself included, sometimes I think, you know, I'm 47 years old.

00:16:26.000 I got four kids.

00:16:27.000 I try to be a little bit more mature, I guess.

00:16:29.000 That's just me.

00:16:30.000 I try to be a little bit more mature.

00:16:32.000 I'm not flipping off the cameras or maybe...

00:16:35.000 Doing those pro-wrestling antics of the first term.

00:16:37.000 Cerno, please plug your Substack and give our audience a little bit of a pitch.

00:16:42.000 Yeah, I do.

00:16:43.000 I do long-form writing, less political, although there's some politics at the Substack, mikesnervich.substack.com.

00:16:49.000 Parenting topics, life topics.

00:16:52.000 I try to show some dimension, and I think other people do, and I still think the biggest...

00:16:58.000 Weakness or blind spot.

00:17:00.000 Although, Alex, who came up from, you know, the farm system at Turning Point, which doesn't get enough credit for Anna Paulina.

00:17:06.000 There's all these people who, I watched them start off at a Turning Point action thing, and now you're like, oh, wow.

00:17:11.000 They're, wow, this is amazing.

00:17:13.000 So, we should show depth.

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00:18:23.000 Joining us now is Will Thibodeau, Army veteran, director of the American Military Project, the Claremont Institute.

00:18:30.000 On Friday evening, by the way, Fridays are becoming fire days.

00:18:34.000 Do you guys notice that?

00:18:34.000 That on Friday evenings we get Kennedy Center news, we get all sorts of stuff.

00:18:39.000 The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, C.Q. Brown, fired!

00:18:45.000 And joining us is Will Thibodeau to discuss first, what is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and why should it even exist in the first place, Will?

00:18:52.000 Two great questions, Charlie.

00:18:53.000 The chairman of the Joint Chiefs is the senior ranking military, uniformed military officer in the armed forces.

00:19:02.000 He sits atop what's called the Joint Staff, which is an organization that by statute gives advice and consent to the president on matters of military affairs.

00:19:12.000 Now, importantly, what did I leave out?

00:19:14.000 The Joint Staff does not control troops in the battlefield or aircraft carriers on the sea.

00:19:19.000 He doesn't make decisions about the budget or where troops go.

00:19:22.000 That's the Department of the Secretary of Defense.

00:19:25.000 The Joint Staff provides advice and consent to the president.

00:19:30.000 And therefore, I think that says a lot about why the president should have ultimate prerogative.

00:19:36.000 Over who serves as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and which generals serve on the joint staff from the respective services.

00:19:43.000 But the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, in part because of Mark Milley, has become this godlike figure who controls all matters of military affairs, and that's not true.

00:19:53.000 Yeah, and so I want to understand why this institution exists in the first place, and I'm open either way.

00:20:00.000 I don't have that strong of opinions, but I tend to ask the question of first principles.

00:20:05.000 It feels as if it's another layer of kind of oligarchic bureaucracy in the Department of Defense that is neither constitutional nor essential.

00:20:15.000 Help me understand.

00:20:16.000 Well, yeah, to steel man the case for the Joint Staff.

00:20:19.000 Please.

00:20:20.000 The president...

00:20:21.000 Should have good military advice from competent leaders who are combat proven and can help the president make decisions that help us win the next war and help the president make foreign policy decisions because the military also should not make foreign policy decisions.

00:20:39.000 The Goldwater-Nichols Act of 1986 was also a key statute in this formation.

00:20:44.000 But again, the Joint Staff only provides advice and consent.

00:20:47.000 I'll say it again.

00:20:48.000 Again, it doesn't own resources or operational decisions in the field.

00:20:52.000 There are almost no political appointees in the joint staff, even though it is now about 4,000 large when you include contractors.

00:21:03.000 There's a joke in the Pentagon that you can't plan a unit barbecue without joint staff concurrence.

00:21:09.000 Even though these people in the joint staff, these generals have no, again, authority, they have somehow weaseled their way into every decision that the military makes, and they are immune from political accountability.

00:21:24.000 If there is a deep state in the Pentagon, it is the joint staff.

00:21:28.000 We've convinced ourselves that these leaders and the staff...

00:21:32.000 Persist throughout time in administrations, immune from political accountability, and it's time for change.

00:21:38.000 I think firing C.Q. Brown is a really good start, but let's consider some other things.

00:21:44.000 Why is the joint staff so big?

00:21:46.000 Why do they work in the Pentagon if they work directly for the president?

00:21:50.000 We always were afraid of being close to the flagpole when I was in the military because we were then under the watchful eye of our boss.

00:21:56.000 Well, let's bring them closer to the flagpole. 0.64

00:21:59.000 I think there's empty office space in USAID and D.C. and probably some offices in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, too, where we could retask these joint staff from bureaucratic malaise and actually towards the proper advice that they should focus on giving President Trump.

00:22:14.000 Fascinating question, I think worthy of examination, and I've heard a lot of complaints that that is the deep state of the leadership of the DOD. So on Friday evening, President Trump terminated C.Q. Brown.

00:22:25.000 Let's put up a picture of C.Q. Brown, please, on screen.

00:22:28.000 The termination of C.Q. Brown was met with a lot of media fury.

00:22:33.000 So if you can see there, C.Q. Brown is sitting.

00:22:36.000 You look at all those medals.

00:22:38.000 Help me understand, what war or civilization did he conquer to get the medals that make it look as if he won World War II? What on earth did he do to do that?

00:22:53.000 And that's somewhat of a sarcastic question, but...

00:22:56.000 We overly reward failure in the military, number one.

00:23:01.000 Secondly, what do you make of the firing of him as an individual C.Q. Brown?

00:23:06.000 Sadly, Charlie, you could argue that the civilization that he helped conquer was our own.

00:23:11.000 The class of C.Q. Brown were the class of military leaders who presided.

00:23:19.000 At key points in their career over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:23:23.000 We know how those ended.

00:23:25.000 And then it was C.Q. Brown and his cohort who presided over our military engagement in Eastern Europe with the Ukraine.

00:23:34.000 That's clearly a problem, and you do have to wonder what that healthy stack...

00:23:41.000 Of awards actually means.

00:23:44.000 You know, it's not just a trite online meme to, you know, juxtapose a picture of Mark Milley or C.Q. Brown with Dwight Eisenhower, the Supreme Allied Commander, you know, who won World War II with fewer generals, smaller bureaucracy in the Pentagon.

00:24:03.000 He figured out a way to do it, and it seemed like he didn't at least need to wear all the medals he won on his way.

00:24:11.000 But C.Q. Brown was fired because he's not the man who should provide advice and consent to President Trump, and President Trump wanted someone else.

00:24:19.000 That's reason enough as far as I'm concerned, but let's examine C.Q. Brown's career as a four-star general.

00:24:26.000 Totally.

00:24:26.000 I just have to interrupt.

00:24:27.000 Let's keep that up on screen.

00:24:28.000 That is the...

00:24:29.000 Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces.

00:24:31.000 I think that was his actual title, if I'm not mistaken.

00:24:33.000 Dwight D. Eisenhower.

00:24:35.000 Am I right, Will?

00:24:37.000 Yes, Supreme Allied Commander of the Forces, yes.

00:24:39.000 Ended up becoming President of the United States.

00:24:41.000 Amazing person.

00:24:42.000 Look, he has like three medals.

00:24:44.000 A humble servant.

00:24:45.000 I think we way over-aesthetically award these people.

00:24:49.000 I think it adds to their ego.

00:24:51.000 And what war have we won in the last 40 years?

00:24:55.000 Right.

00:24:56.000 And we haven't won any.

00:24:58.000 And generally, our military is less ready for any future conflict.

00:25:04.000 And I think we're under this impression that we're able to compete on a strategic scale.

00:25:12.000 And we're hoping that our adversaries, small or large, don't call our bluff at this point.

00:25:18.000 Serious people in and out of the military understand that America, even...

00:25:23.000 Today, in February of 2025, would have real problems if you just swapped us out with the Ukrainian army in... 0.61

00:25:31.000 In Ukraine fighting the Russians.

00:25:34.000 It wouldn't be as if that's the key to defeating Russia.

00:25:37.000 There would be carnage because we are not ready technologically or with the necessary leadership in place to fight in the 21st century.

00:25:48.000 That's why C.Q. Brown needed to go.

00:25:51.000 It's not necessarily to disparage the man, but there's a lot about his career before he was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs that should...

00:25:57.000 That should bring into question his ability to be an objective leader during President Trump's agenda.

00:26:04.000 And that begins with DEI and how he established race quotas for the Air Force.

00:26:11.000 He said as commander of Air Force's Pacific that the Air Force would remedy racial...

00:26:18.000 Systemic racism in America, which is troubling if you really think about that statement.

00:26:23.000 He also made an effort in just one example to make flight school in the Air Force look like America.

00:26:29.000 Who got selected to be pilots in the Air Force was not based on your...

00:26:35.000 They wanted to make sure the race and sex composition looked a certain way. 0.95

00:26:40.000 And guess what happened?

00:26:41.000 We didn't graduate enough pilots during that experiment of General C.Q. Brown.

00:26:47.000 Again, he may be, by all accounts, is a good man, but we can't forget the extent to which he politicized the military himself as an Air Force general.

00:26:58.000 And it's time to move on.

00:27:00.000 It's not crazy.

00:27:02.000 In closing here, Will, How are we doing?

00:27:05.000 How are we doing removing the tumor that metastasized cancer cells, that is wokeism and DEI? How is Pete Hegseth doing?

00:27:13.000 How is our military progressing on this?

00:27:16.000 Secretary Hegseth gets it.

00:27:17.000 On his first day in the job, he signed a memo.

00:27:21.000 That importantly ended race and sex as a consideration for personnel and programs. 0.84

00:27:27.000 What most Republican senators urge and even past secretaries of defense and Republican administrations, they'll reemphasize the importance of merit.

00:27:36.000 And sure enough, the...

00:27:38.000 Bureaucracy of the Pentagon will go about with service-wide race quotas and diversity programs because they fulfill this McKinsey and Company-backed lie that our diversity is our strength.

00:27:52.000 So this is a great start.

00:27:54.000 And, you know, sure enough, accountability for certain senior military officers, including the top service JAGs.

00:28:02.000 Including other members of the Joint Staff is a key part of it because it was senior uniformed military officers who propagated this ideology.

00:28:12.000 They violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice countless times by advocating and speaking on behalf of a political cause, that being DEI, while in uniform.

00:28:23.000 It's not following orders to speak at a Women's Equality Day event. 0.99

00:28:30.000 It's not just following orders to make absurd comparisons between Christian Americans and Hamas on Twitter.

00:28:40.000 These are real problems that compromise the trust of the American people and the military leadership class.

00:28:46.000 So I think, frankly, there's more to go.

00:28:49.000 There are more people who need to go and more vigilance to be paid.

00:28:54.000 But all signs show that the political leadership at the...

00:28:57.000 The Pentagon understands this, and it's a question of making sure they follow through with it, and we can help them.

00:29:04.000 Will Tebow, thank you so much.

00:29:05.000 Excellent.

00:29:06.000 Come back anytime.

00:29:06.000 Thank you so much.

00:29:07.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:30:06.000 So the NSA, the National Security Agency, we know that they spy on us.

00:30:15.000 They spied on Tucker Carlson.

00:30:17.000 They leaked his emails.

00:30:19.000 But now we know, due to leaked chats on company time, not company time, taxpayer time, government time, these are the people that are spying on you.

00:30:30.000 These are the people that are watching your messages, watching your emails, watching what you have to say.

00:30:37.000 Jesse Waters breaks the story.

00:30:39.000 Let's start there.

00:30:39.000 Playcut 120. Here's a taste.

00:30:42.000 Viewer warning.

00:30:44.000 This one guy had just said his manhood surgically removed.

00:30:48.000 One of the weirdest things that gives me euphoria is when I pee.

00:30:52.000 I don't have to push anything down to make sure it aims right.

00:30:57.000 Here's another.

00:30:58.000 Getting my blank zapped by a laser was shocking.

00:31:05.000 Fine, I'll just do one more.

00:31:06.000 This one guy is talking about how excited he is that the bulge is gone.

00:31:12.000 And he can wear bikinis after his sex change surgeries.

00:31:15.000 I know.

00:31:16.000 These are the people that are in charge of your intel agencies. 0.97

00:31:19.000 So when we criticize the intel agencies, it turns out that mentally deranged and perverse trans people are talking on government servers. 1.00

00:31:29.000 About their attempted sex changes. 0.98

00:31:31.000 I'm going to read more of these.

00:31:33.000 Chats. 0.99

00:31:34.000 On hair removal and estrogen treatments.

00:31:37.000 Or even gender reassignment surgery.

00:31:39.000 Mine is everything.

00:31:40.000 I found it that I like being penetrated, but all the rest is just as important as well.

00:31:46.000 These are the people that are running your intel agencies, that are running your government, that are in charge of keeping the nation safe.

00:31:53.000 One of the weirdest things that gave me euphoria.

00:31:56.000 Jesse Waters went through that one.

00:31:58.000 Is when I pee.

00:32:00.000 The NSA, your government, maintains this chat system for the intelligence community.

00:32:07.000 It's called Intelink.

00:32:08.000 The servers are supposed to be for government work, but gender activists have hijacked at least two of the channels for LGBTQA and ICPrideTWG.

00:32:17.000 I've said that I do not think that trans people should be in the U.S. military. 1.00

00:32:21.000 I don't think trans people should be in the intel community. 1.00

00:32:23.000 It is a sister agency of the military.

00:32:26.000 Obviously, they are showing that they are not capable of staying focused on the main thing.

00:32:31.000 We got Iran running wild. 1.00

00:32:33.000 We got questions happening with China all over the place, our greatest enemy. 1.00

00:32:37.000 We got major issues with North Korea, and yet our intel agencies are talking about their butthole being zapped. 0.89

00:32:46.000 Look, I just enjoy helping other people experience this.

00:32:49.000 I can't even read this stuff on air.

00:32:50.000 These are creepy people.

00:32:52.000 They should be fired from their job, and there should be a position that... 0.98

00:32:54.000 If you are trans, you can't serve in the intel agencies. 1.00

00:32:57.000 Period. 0.99

00:32:57.000 You're a distraction and you have proven that all of your little tribe is a distraction to our national security. 0.99

00:33:04.000 Go get mental help. 1.00

00:33:05.000 Go get counseling. 1.00

00:33:06.000 And if and when you stop being trans, come back and we'll reconsider you. 1.00

00:33:10.000 This is a national security threat. 0.98

00:33:12.000 It's easy to make fun of this.

00:33:13.000 It's easy to make jokes.

00:33:15.000 I don't want these people working in the NSA cafeteria.

00:33:18.000 And of course, I have compassion for them.

00:33:20.000 Go get help.

00:33:21.000 Go get some sort of counseling.

00:33:23.000 This is a national security threat. 0.96

00:33:25.000 They're supposed to be cross-checking satellite imagery, not talking about their butthole being zapped.

00:33:32.000 This is the regime that, by the way, when Senate Republicans go on Capitol Hill and they talk about the intel agencies, oh, we must trust the intel agents.

00:33:41.000 Putin's bad because the intel agencies tell us our intel reports.

00:33:45.000 This is who's authoring their intel reports.

00:33:47.000 People like Dylan Mulvaney bragging about the most graphic things imaginable on government devices during government time using taxpayer servers.

00:33:57.000 And a very interesting point as well.

00:33:59.000 Imagine that they could also be vulnerable to being blackmailed by the Chinese Communist Party. 0.94

00:34:03.000 All it takes is to compromise one NSA agent and say, hey, leak these 550 things or else we're going to go public with your butthole zapping. 0.91

00:34:12.000 We have now seen enough evidence. 0.77

00:34:15.000 That trans individuals or people should not be in the U.S. military, not in the intel community. 0.97

00:34:19.000 Period.

00:34:20.000 Hard stop.

00:34:20.000 You've got to put your country first.

00:34:22.000 Playtime is over.

00:34:23.000 Cutesy time is over.

00:34:24.000 Enough trying to assuage people's feelings and either you play to win and you have a country that is worthy of defending, which we do, or we're going to have chat rooms discussing fetishes, kink, sex, all legitimized as DEI. And these are the intel agencies that many of your Senate Republicans Take a knee to.

00:34:45.000 No, we need massive and dramatic change.

00:34:48.000 And it's really kind of numbing.

00:34:49.000 It's worse than you could ever imagine.

00:34:51.000 This is what they're doing during the day.

00:34:52.000 And I can't even read the more graphic stuff on air.

00:34:56.000 These are the people that are supposed to be keeping you safe.

00:34:58.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:00.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:02.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:35:04.000 God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 26, 2025

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