The Charlie Kirk Show - What Really Killed George Floyd?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, the fall of Minneapolis.

00:00:02.000 How did George Floyd die?

00:00:04.000 Did Jarek Chauvin kill him?

00:00:06.000 You might think you know the answer to that question, but you need to listen to this episode as we dive deep into a thought crime and into a very well-researched journalistic piece around the fall of Minneapolis, the truth behind George Floyd's death.

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00:01:56.000 There is a viral documentary that we all need to support.

00:02:00.000 It is called The Fall of Minneapolis.

00:02:02.000 It's doing very, very well.

00:02:03.000 Millions and millions and millions of views.

00:02:06.000 And joining us now is Liz Collin as we talk about George Floyd, Derek Chauvin, and the film The Fall of Minneapolis.

00:02:14.000 Liz, welcome to the program.

00:02:15.000 Charlie, thank you for having me.

00:02:16.000 Appreciate it.

00:02:17.000 Liz, tell us about the documentary.

00:02:19.000 I have a lot of people talking about it.

00:02:21.000 It's doing very well.

00:02:22.000 Introduce it to our audience, please.

00:02:24.000 The Fall of Minneapolis came about after I put out a book called They're Lying, The Media, the Left, and the Death of George Floyd.

00:02:32.000 Did that in October of 2022, but we wanted to kind of take this a step further, knowing that not everybody reads books nowadays.

00:02:40.000 And I think the book gave many people courage to come forward for the first time to share their stories on camera about this incident in Minneapolis that in so many ways changed lives all across the world.

00:02:54.000 And all of these lies, I should say, peddled in Minneapolis helped to do so as well.

00:02:58.000 So this is years of research on this case, thousands of documents that we've poured over over the years, working with a remarkable editor.

00:03:08.000 His name is Dr. J.C. Shea, who's the director of The Fall of Minneapolis as well.

00:03:13.000 And we wanted to make this available for free so as many people would see this documentary as possible and more than 8 million people I believe have at this point but really appreciate you having me on to spread the word about this.

00:03:25.000 Well it's incredibly important for thefallofminneapolis.com.

00:03:28.000 So you say the lies.

00:03:29.000 Let's take it piece by piece.

00:03:31.000 What is the biggest lie?

00:03:33.000 What is the big lie that you tackle?

00:03:35.000 You know I think first and foremost we start the documentary out with the body camera footage of this incident.

00:03:42.000 This is the very first time in Minneapolis police history that they've withheld body camera footage from the public, from the police union.

00:03:50.000 And just to back up a bit with my story, I was working in corporate media at the CBS station, WCCO, for years when this transpired, but I was so bothered by the lies the media helped to push over all of this.

00:04:06.000 And I'm married to now the former union president at the time that this happened.

00:04:13.000 So clearly, I had a unique perspective into all of this.

00:04:16.000 But this body camera footage kind of speaks for itself.

00:04:18.000 And that's why we start out with those 20 minutes beginning with the fall of Minneapolis.

00:04:23.000 You have George Floyd talking about how he can't breathe before Derek Chauvin arrives on scene.

00:04:28.000 You have George Floyd complaining of his health.

00:04:32.000 He's very resistant to not wanting to go back there as he discusses.

00:04:38.000 You have these officers asking, what are you on?

00:04:40.000 What'd you take?

00:04:41.000 Again, says nothing.

00:04:43.000 He himself asks to be laid on the ground.

00:04:46.000 And perhaps, you know, even more importantly, Thomas Lane calling for an ambulance 36 seconds after George Floyd is laid on the ground.

00:04:56.000 But we're not allowed to see that.

00:04:58.000 We're not allowed to hear that interaction with George Floyd.

00:05:01.000 Instead, the public is really led to believe something completely different.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, we believed that Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd.

00:05:12.000 How do you think George Floyd died?

00:05:14.000 Yeah, I like to say, too, this isn't the how did George Floyd die documentary.

00:05:20.000 This is so much more.

00:05:21.000 And I think you really talked about this, the fall of a once great city here in the Midwest in Minneapolis.

00:05:27.000 This is the fall of Minneapolis can really be traced to this very incident.

00:05:32.000 But you have, I'll talk about that a bit, you have this autopsy conducted on George Floyd within 12 hours of his death.

00:05:40.000 And there's really some telling conversations that we know about now.

00:05:43.000 We've done a lot of reporting on this at Elpha News, where I work now, elphanews.org.

00:05:49.000 But these conversations that are taking place with Hennepin County prosecutors and Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County medical examiner, that clearly point to no asphyxiation, no strangulation of George Floyd.

00:06:01.000 Toxicology tests eventually come back.

00:06:04.000 There's methamphetamine, three times the lethal amount of fentanyl in George Floyd's systems.

00:06:10.000 More than that, you know, he has a bad heart just recovering from COVID.

00:06:14.000 He has a paraganglioma, which is a very questionable tumor that many people have wondered why more testing wasn't done on that.

00:06:22.000 Medical professionals have described him a bit of a, sadly, as a bit of a ticking time bomb, but that is not what the public is allowed to hear and to see.

00:06:31.000 Instead, you have these back, these behind the scenes, I'd say, meetings that are taking place with prosecutors, with Dr. Baker, and the FBI.

00:06:40.000 They go on for several days.

00:06:42.000 This isn't me as a conspiracy theorist.

00:06:44.000 I'm a reporter.

00:06:45.000 This is all publicly documented and was available to the press.

00:06:49.000 And you have this sort of changing narrative a bit when it comes to George Floyd's death.

00:06:56.000 And that's well documented in the book and in the documentary as well.

00:07:00.000 There were 17 errors in the autopsy regarding George Floyd.

00:07:05.000 Let's play cut 95, please.

00:07:07.000 An article published in a peer-reviewed journal identified 17 errors in George Floyd's autopsy.

00:07:15.000 Do these errors raise questions about how George Floyd died?

00:07:20.000 Yes.

00:07:21.000 In patients that have acromegaly, they tend to die from cardiovascular complications such as heart attack or arrhythmias.

00:07:29.000 Do you feel in a way they were trying to hide this information?

00:07:33.000 I'm not sure if the medical examiners were trying to hide it, but it seems like the prosecutor team was trying to hide it.

00:07:45.000 What is MRT and why does it matter for this case?

00:07:48.000 Something else that is clear in that body camera footage that we're not allowed to see.

00:07:54.000 This is the maximal restraint technique known as MRT.

00:07:58.000 You hear Thomas Lane refer to this in the body camera footage, a part of police training for years in Minneapolis.

00:08:06.000 But instead of telling the full story, the full truth about what happened, you have the very next day, the mayor of Minneapolis and the chief of police at that time, Madera Arredondo, quickly say this is not something police have been trained in.

00:08:19.000 This is not something we recognize, despite Thomas Lane talking about this during that interaction.

00:08:27.000 But just recently, MRT was taken out of policy by the Minneapolis Police Department, and that happened just within the last year.

00:08:36.000 So this has been something that has been allowed, that has been trained for years.

00:08:41.000 And instead of Judge Peter Cahill allowing MRT to be a part of Derek Chauvin's trial, it was not allowed.

00:08:48.000 So many have questioned why is that?

00:08:51.000 They were not allowed to speak of MRT at trial.

00:08:56.000 Instead, you have the head trainer and you have the chief of police under oath take the stand to say this is not how we train.

00:09:04.000 But you'll see in the fall of Minneapolis, there are more than a dozen Minneapolis police officers who say that they in fact were trained in MRT and just basically what that lie, peddling all of that, did to the department.

00:09:20.000 And this was not an inconsequential lie.

00:09:22.000 This lie resulted in the death of thousands of people across the country, radical racial politics, billions of dollars of property destruction across the country, the defunding of police, direct interference into our election around this lie.

00:09:40.000 And is it true that the original Hennepin County autopsy report showed that George Floyd died from causes unrelated to restraint?

00:09:53.000 I will say that the original autopsy did not even have the word homicide on that document.

00:10:01.000 So I think that that says a lot.

00:10:03.000 You also have Amy Sweezy testifying to she had conversations with Dr. Baker who said the evidence is not matching up with the public narrative.

00:10:11.000 This is the type of case that ends careers.

00:10:14.000 So there is certainly so much fear here and so much manipulation.

00:10:18.000 And these officers, we've continued to follow their stories.

00:10:21.000 They speak to us from prison.

00:10:24.000 They're, you know, want people to question, you know, are you okay with the media controlling the narrative?

00:10:29.000 Are you okay with our justice system being controlled by the mob?

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00:11:37.000 So let's show Cut 98.

00:11:39.000 Liz Collin is continuing with us, the fall of Minneapolis.

00:11:42.000 Let's play Cut 98, please.

00:11:44.000 Several of those witnesses testified that MRT or the maximal restraint technique was not a part of Minneapolis police policy.

00:11:53.000 Oh, it wasn't part of the training.

00:11:58.000 The pages that didn't want to be presented in court because they weren't in the manual.

00:12:09.000 I've seen the manual.

00:12:11.000 I've read through the manuals.

00:12:13.000 I've seen, I've seen them.

00:12:16.000 Hmm, they're not in the manuals.

00:12:18.000 Well, they sure as hell are in Derek's training manuals.

00:12:21.000 So how can they say that they don't exist?

00:12:26.000 That's Derek's manual.

00:12:28.000 These are Derek's training manuals.

00:12:31.000 And MRT is in there?

00:12:33.000 Yes.

00:12:34.000 It's in there.

00:12:36.000 Wow, that is a very, very powerful clip.

00:12:39.000 I've never seen that aired.

00:12:42.000 And was that presented in Derek Chauvin's trial?

00:12:45.000 And did the chief of police commit perjury?

00:12:47.000 Yeah, as I was saying, Charlie, in the earlier segment, no, Judge Peter Cahill did not allow, did not allow MRT to be a part of Derek Chauvin's trial.

00:12:57.000 What's interesting to point out, I recently had a conversation with Tu Tau, who is in a federal facility as well.

00:13:05.000 And MRT was allowed in his trial.

00:13:08.000 In that case, it wasn't a jury that decided Tu Tau's fate.

00:13:13.000 It was Judge Peter Cahill himself.

00:13:15.000 So just the way that this was sort of going on behind the scenes, the manipulation and how things were allowed in one case and not allowed in the other really, I think, should raise a lot of eyebrows.

00:13:27.000 But no, MRT was not allowed in Derek Chauvin's trial.

00:13:30.000 And you're right.

00:13:32.000 We have the chief of police and again, the head of training testifying to the fact that MRT was not a part of MRI.

00:13:37.000 So the judge did not allow that as a defense for Derek Chauvin?

00:13:42.000 How is that possible?

00:13:43.000 Who is this judge?

00:13:44.000 I don't understand.

00:13:45.000 I think that a lot of people are asking questions.

00:13:48.000 How is that possible?

00:13:49.000 And that was sort of the point of bringing this to light because there are so many things that people should be questioning, especially if you believe in this so-called justice system.

00:14:00.000 And basically, Judge Peter Cahill in a ruling said that he would not allow MRT in Derek Chauvin's trial because there was no proof that Derek Chauvin last signed his name in the last time MRT was taught to the Minneapolis Police Department.

00:14:17.000 So that was his deciding factor there.

00:14:21.000 I want to play Cut 99.

00:14:23.000 This is remarkable.

00:14:25.000 So we haven't seen or heard much from Derek Chauvin.

00:14:30.000 Let's play Cut 99.

00:14:31.000 This call is from a federal prison.

00:14:35.000 During the trial, several witnesses, including Chief Arredondo and Inspector Blackwell, testified that they didn't recognize the technique you and the other officers were using as if it was not a part of Minneapolis police training.

00:14:49.000 But was MRT, the maximal restraint technique, part of training and policy?

00:14:55.000 Absolutely.

00:14:56.000 In fact, I'm looking at it right now.

00:14:58.000 5-316, Aximal Restraint Technique, right in their written policy manual.

00:15:05.000 Hold on.

00:15:05.000 Excuse my ignorance, Liz.

00:15:07.000 What federal crimes did Derek Chauvin commit?

00:15:11.000 The federal, basically the federal charges were based around a violation of George Floyd's civil rights.

00:15:19.000 So that's where that focused.

00:15:22.000 But again, if you are questioning the federal government's involvement in the case, I think that is also something that should raise eyebrows and cause alarm.

00:15:30.000 They were called.

00:15:31.000 The FBI was called in this case within just a few hours of the incident.

00:15:37.000 Again, nothing that's happened in Minneapolis before.

00:15:41.000 So, again, this was supposed to be all about race. 0.96

00:15:44.000 Remember, this is a white police officer who murders a black man in broad daylight and in front of a crowd. 0.66

00:15:51.000 And nobody wants to talk to Alex King, the black police officer on the job for just a few days, who is the one who arrests George Floyd.

00:16:01.000 And Alex King speaks to that in the fall of Minneapolis, that his story didn't fit the narrative.

00:16:07.000 So nobody seemed to care about that.

00:16:08.000 Or how about Tu Tao, who we've also spoken to at great length from prison as well.

00:16:13.000 Here's a Hmong American officer, grew up in Minneapolis, wanted to be a cop after a police officer helped him.

00:16:21.000 He grew up in a pretty troubled home growing up, and he sort of tells that story.

00:16:26.000 So again, there was just so much more to these police officers, to this incident himself.

00:16:32.000 This is such an important conversation.

00:16:34.000 I'll be honest.

00:16:35.000 This just drives me really.

00:16:36.000 I'm getting really upset over this.

00:16:38.000 I just want the truth.

00:16:40.000 If Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd, you should go to jail.

00:16:44.000 100%.

00:16:45.000 But I want all the facts here.

00:16:46.000 I don't want cover-ups.

00:16:47.000 I don't want all of a sudden, oh, that's not in the police training manual, and people are lying and they're perjuring themselves.

00:16:51.000 We want the truth.

00:16:52.000 I do not want speedy, quote-unquote, justice just to try to accelerate a color revolution. 0.57

00:16:58.000 I have no interest in that.

00:16:59.000 So, Liz, I just want to take a pause here as we're talking about the film.

00:17:03.000 I can't imagine this has been easy for you because you're a very credible person.

00:17:08.000 You're speaking out about this.

00:17:10.000 What has your experience been since the publication of your book and the production of this film?

00:17:15.000 Yeah, so I'm a Minnesota native, Charlie.

00:17:18.000 Grew up sort of watching the station that I ended up working at, kind of a full circle moment a bit, living the dream.

00:17:26.000 And, you know, I thought journalism was always about finding the truth, informing people, helping them make better decisions.

00:17:32.000 That's what I still believe in.

00:17:34.000 But I really saw corporate media change before my eyes, pushing very dangerous, divisive narratives that I really just couldn't get behind because the facts were not there.

00:17:45.000 It seems critical thinking in many ways has gone out the window.

00:17:48.000 Our job is supposed to hold people accountable and push back.

00:17:53.000 But no, things have not been easy.

00:17:55.000 I was the subject of several protests in the wake of all of this.

00:17:59.000 How dare I be married to a police officer who is the union president at the time?

00:18:06.000 And I left corporate media over all of this.

00:18:10.000 I lost the position that I held for a dozen years at that station.

00:18:16.000 I was kind of put in a closet in a way, because I did.

00:18:19.000 I did push back and I said, you know, there's this, we need to bring this to light.

00:18:24.000 There's this they're lying about.

00:18:26.000 My book is called Lying for a Reason because I kept shouting that for months on end, but it seemed nobody wanted to listen.

00:18:35.000 And so that's why I left and went into independent media to set the record straight, not only about this story, but to give a voice to so many others who just don't have it.

00:18:45.000 I mean, you know better than anyone.

00:18:46.000 They don't have it in the corporate media world.

00:18:50.000 And, you know, there are death threats and I get called names.

00:18:54.000 And, you know, at first people would ask, you know, why would you put yourself out there like this?

00:18:59.000 And why are you doing this?

00:19:00.000 And I'm just so fearful if we don't, Charlie, if people don't speak up that know better.

00:19:07.000 You know, I'm a person of faith, I know, like you as well.

00:19:09.000 So I felt like this was what I could do in my small role.

00:19:14.000 I just kind of speechless.

00:19:15.000 So, I mean, I want to ask more pointedly, though, what is modern journalism now about?

00:19:19.000 Because it certainly isn't about the exploration of truth.

00:19:22.000 Is it about protecting sacred narratives?

00:19:27.000 Yeah, it's an excellent question.

00:19:28.000 I kind of ask myself that each and every day when I see certain headlines or certain stories, because it's not why I got into this business, you know, decades ago.

00:19:39.000 You know, now we live in a world where people pounce on viral videos or certain sound bites.

00:19:46.000 We're not looking at the full picture, so it is, I think, easier to manipulate a population when that's happening.

00:19:53.000 You have a lot of, you know, people nowadays as journalists, they grow up with social media.

00:19:58.000 It becomes more about how they're feeling rather than facts.

00:20:01.000 So I think that's been an issue as well.

00:20:03.000 I know I sound like a dinosaur here at this point talking about this, Charlie, but really, I think we're all paying the price for that.

00:20:12.000 So unreported to this, I mean, we have been led to believe that Derek Chauvin is the worst person ever.

00:20:19.000 And again, there could be a heated debate of whether or not he conducted himself correctly, but there's far more to this story.

00:20:25.000 And you've highlighted this.

00:20:28.000 And because of how much his character has been assassinated, and you've demonstrated that he was just following the police procedure manual, he has been stabbed.

00:20:38.000 How is his health?

00:20:39.000 He's in prison.

00:20:41.000 He's serving a federal sentence and a state sentence.

00:20:44.000 How is his health?

00:20:45.000 Yeah, talking about that, we put out this documentary.

00:20:48.000 It's nine days after we do that he is stabbed at a federal facility where he's been with no incidents at all by a former FBI informant, this John Terskak, who tried to murder him the day after Thanksgiving.

00:21:03.000 He was in the hospital for quite some time.

00:21:05.000 He's back now in the medical unit at that same facility.

00:21:09.000 I know his family has been able to see him recently, but he's still struggling, had some nerve damage from that stabbing.

00:21:16.000 And interestingly enough, he's left alone in the law library for the first time when this takes place.

00:21:22.000 It seems as if he's working on his case, his appeal, and seems like somebody doesn't want that to be happening here, this appeal.

00:21:32.000 And this is just very, very frightening.

00:21:36.000 He is recovering, but he also is not allowed many things.

00:21:40.000 He doesn't have access to his materials still to this day, months later, after this stabbing.

00:21:47.000 And he's obviously been cut off.

00:21:49.000 He was working in the prison before and such, but basically confined to this medical unit and only allowed outside a few times a week.

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00:22:40.000 So I want to just give you the opportunity here.

00:22:43.000 The film is extraordinary.

00:22:44.000 And again, I love the truth.

00:22:45.000 And I remember how people got so caught up in this hysteria, and it became an irrefutable thing that this was like the worst issue, the worst thing that ever happened to American society.

00:22:57.000 You wrote a book and then you did the film.

00:23:00.000 As you, as a journalist, were looking for facts, what did you learn that shocked you?

00:23:06.000 That as a journalist, you said just yourself, you just were just so like, I can't wait to get this out there.

00:23:13.000 Talk about a couple things in the production of all this that really moved you as a journalist that surprised you the most.

00:23:19.000 You know, I think that sort of living with a police officer during all of this, and so many of these officers in Minneapolis were forced from this career, from this job that they loved.

00:23:35.000 I mean, the department went from nearly 900 the beginning of May of 2020 to less than 500 are how many Minneapolis police officers are still out there working.

00:23:48.000 And I think that's what I really wanted the public to know about all of this, you know, as well.

00:23:53.000 These dominoes that fell that simply did not have to, how they're served up to the mob to surrender the third precinct.

00:24:01.000 That was a high-profile incident that obviously happened with the riots.

00:24:05.000 They weren't peaceful protests, no matter what corporate media was telling you.

00:24:09.000 It's just astounding to me what these men and women were forced to go through in the riots because of these lies.

00:24:18.000 And so it's not only you have so many victims in all of this.

00:24:22.000 The story goes beyond the officers in prison.

00:24:25.000 Certainly there is something to be said about George Floyd and how he was acting that day, how he was arrested and acted the very same way in 2019, but also an arrest that lies were told about that, that they'd never heard of George Floyd before.

00:24:40.000 They'd never had anything to do with him.

00:24:42.000 Well, he's the subject of an undercover drug investigation a year earlier, but the public wasn't allowed to know that as well.

00:24:50.000 So again, all these men and women who've left the department, they tell their stories for the first time.

00:24:56.000 We have an officer who's still on the job, and what's that like in Minneapolis nowadays?

00:25:02.000 So there's just really so much here.

00:25:04.000 And, you know, sadly, this has become so political, which I don't understand.

00:25:09.000 And there's this line in the sand.

00:25:10.000 You know, the corporate media has completely ignored the documentary, of course, because it went against the narrative that they pushed from day one, despite the fact they were privy to the truth here.

00:25:22.000 So let's keep on diving into this here.

00:25:26.000 How has the city of Minneapolis changed since this occurred?

00:25:30.000 Has crime gone up?

00:25:32.000 Is Minneapolis safer since Floyd Apalooza?

00:25:36.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a reason we called the documentary the fall of Minneapolis.

00:25:40.000 I've yet to find someone who thinks Minneapolis is better off now.

00:25:45.000 You know, I talked about the police numbers down nearly 40 percent in that time since May 25th, 2020.

00:25:53.000 Not only that, I just was checking recently, there's been a thousand stolen cars in Minneapolis just within the first two months of this year.

00:26:02.000 Elf News, we just released a report today, a story about a survey that was done, and this was among all Minnesota law enforcement.

00:26:10.000 So, all across the state, and 80% of law enforcement in Minnesota now will not recommend this profession to their friends and family.

00:26:20.000 They wouldn't recommend this job.

00:26:21.000 And 98% fear prosecution.

00:26:25.000 And why do you think that is?

00:26:26.000 Of course, it's because of this case.

00:26:28.000 And this didn't end with the Floyd case, Charlie.

00:26:32.000 We continue to follow many stories about officers being prosecuted.

00:26:42.000 It's basically what many of these radical left-wing politicians have run on successfully in Minnesota.

00:26:50.000 So, specifically in minority communities, have they seen an increase in crime?

00:26:56.000 Because the whole idea was that Black Lives Matter, we need to try to improve the condition of Black America and Black urban corridors.

00:27:04.000 Have they seen improvement with crime, with break-ins, carjackings since four years now, June of 2020?

00:27:13.000 Absolutely.

00:27:14.000 I mean, you have homicide rates that are nearly twice as high as they once were.

00:27:18.000 I believe it's the last three years have been the highest homicide rates on record in the city's history.

00:27:24.000 Carjackings weren't even reported before all of this.

00:27:29.000 They weren't even tracked.

00:27:30.000 Now there are hundreds every year in Minneapolis.

00:27:34.000 Dozens so far have transpired this year.

00:27:37.000 Hundreds of robberies just within the first couple months of this year.

00:27:42.000 So, despite what many of these politicians tell us in Minneapolis, crime is not down.

00:27:50.000 It's way up.

00:27:51.000 Yeah, and is there any adjustment from the Democrats who run Minneapolis to try to increase police presence?

00:27:59.000 I know there was a debate about defunding police and police levels.

00:28:04.000 Where's the average run-of-the-mill Democrat in the Minneapolis City Council when it comes to crime and policing?

00:28:11.000 Yeah, this is what's interesting and frankly heartbreaking as a reporter having to cover.

00:28:17.000 Not only have we talked about the prosecution of officers, but there have been eight first responders killed in this region in the line of duty just within the last year.

00:28:27.000 That includes three Burnsville first responders, a fire medic, and two Burnsville police officers who just recently were murdered on the site of a domestic call that they were responding to.

00:28:41.000 So this is just really horrific.

00:28:43.000 What's interesting now, though, is you do have the DFL talking about how they are supporting the police and whatnot.

00:28:51.000 But their words have been pretty loud about what they've said before and what they have not.

00:29:00.000 So those are stories we continue to cover here.

00:29:03.000 We can, of course, only hope that they will tone down this rhetoric and whatnot.

00:29:08.000 But in Minneapolis, I should mention, you have the majority of the city council in Minneapolis are socialists.

00:29:13.000 These are self-proclaimed socialists.

00:29:15.000 This isn't me just saying that.

00:29:18.000 So people are certainly going to have to vote differently if they want something to change, especially in Minneapolis.

00:29:24.000 The fall of Minneapolis.

00:29:25.000 So Liz, this film is crowdfunded.

00:29:28.000 Also, you work with Alpha News, who's just terrific, and people are sending me Alpha News stuff all the time.

00:29:34.000 Just talk about the other factors of this film.

00:29:38.000 I'm sure when you put together a film like this, you don't know the direction totally that it's going to take.

00:29:43.000 It's been seen by millions and millions of people.

00:29:46.000 Anything else in this film that you want to discuss that we haven't touched on?

00:29:49.000 You know, I think that's the thing I always like to say about the documentary, Charlie, is we want people to feel free to think for themselves.

00:30:00.000 This isn't, you need to think this way, but we wanted to bring them as close to this case as possible by speaking to Derek Chauvin, to his mother, to Joni King, the mother of Alex King, and him as well.

00:30:13.000 And how would this perhaps have changed your perception of all of this if you would have known this early on?

00:30:19.000 And there's really no reason for this to have been kept from you for years.

00:30:25.000 Because again, I've received so many emails who, people who have admitted that this really did change their mind, and they're upset that this just wasn't told to them from the start.

00:30:37.000 I did want to give a quick shout out, if I can, if people are in the LA area, we'll be there with Brandon Tatum.

00:30:43.000 I know a friend of yours, so that's why I'm bringing this up.

00:30:45.000 That's the best.

00:30:45.000 That's great.

00:30:47.000 But HorowitzFreedomCenter.org, there are tickets available.

00:30:51.000 We're doing a special showing of the fall of Minneapolis.

00:30:53.000 So I wanted to go ahead and get that out there, Charlie.

00:30:55.000 That is great.

00:30:56.000 And any way we can promote all of this, Liz, I mean, I'm enthusiastically behind this because, you know, we took some very firm stands against BLM while it was happening when we were called racist.

00:31:05.000 And this thing from a very early perspective didn't feel right.

00:31:10.000 It felt forced.

00:31:11.000 It didn't seem like we were getting the entire picture.

00:31:14.000 And I guess that's my final question.

00:31:17.000 Being the subject matter expert on this, what would justice look like with this entire story?

00:31:26.000 I think justice would look like they come out and they go through.

00:31:30.000 Many departments do this.

00:31:31.000 They go through the entire body camera footage.

00:31:33.000 Here's what happened.

00:31:35.000 Here's the entire interaction.

00:31:37.000 This is how police officers are trained.

00:31:41.000 I think justice looks like the truth.

00:31:43.000 They should kind of go hand in hand.

00:31:45.000 I think that's the point to our system that why are we allowing this?

00:31:51.000 Why are we allowing this to be manipulated and for things to be withheld?

00:31:57.000 If you care about justice at all, you should care about the truth.

00:32:01.000 Yeah, I mean, truth, justice, and the American way.

00:32:03.000 That's what we used to say.

00:32:05.000 And truth and justice are the immune system for a country, for a civilization.

00:32:11.000 And if you suppress one, you're weakened.

00:32:13.000 You suppress both, you get completely taken over.

00:32:17.000 Also, talk about your book, Liz.

00:32:18.000 The name of your book, I know it accompanies it.

00:32:21.000 Tell us about that as well.

00:32:22.000 Yeah, so it's They're Lying, the Media, the Left, and the Death of George Floyd.

00:32:26.000 You can find it on Amazon.

00:32:28.000 It's a bit more of my personal story and kind of how I got wrapped up into all of this, but so much about the case and many of these officers sharing their story as well.

00:32:40.000 And we'll continue to follow this on Alpha News if people want to subscribe.

00:32:43.000 Everything is free.

00:32:45.000 Alphanews.org.

00:32:47.000 We also have an app available as well.

00:32:50.000 But really appreciate all the work you guys do there.

00:32:52.000 I should say about the book, Turning Point President wrote the afterword for the book.

00:32:57.000 Oh, wow. 0.99

00:32:57.000 A gal by the name of Avery Severson. 0.99

00:32:59.000 Oh, yeah, no, no, Avery.

00:33:01.000 She was wrongly accused of something at some deal, wasn't she?

00:33:04.000 What was that story again that she was for some hate crime or something, and it wasn't her?

00:33:08.000 It was at a high school in the suburbs of Minneapolis, right?

00:33:12.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:33:13.000 She was called a racist, all these horrible things, and didn't commit anything that she was accused of.

00:33:22.000 And she sort of writes that story at the end of the book here.

00:33:25.000 And that's why I bring this out, too, is we really got to fix this for our next generation.

00:33:30.000 You know, that's kind of the quest that I've been on.

00:33:33.000 And Avery speaks to that in the book as well.

00:33:35.000 Liz, thank you so much.

00:33:36.000 God bless you.

00:33:36.000 We're behind you 100%.

00:33:38.000 And the truth is what we care about.

00:33:39.000 And we've been lied to.

00:33:40.000 God bless.

00:33:41.000 God bless you.

00:33:42.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:33:42.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:44.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:33:50.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 29, 2024

What Really Killed George Floyd?

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