Are the Democrats in a death spiral? We analyze with Ryan James Gerdusky, and then Tom Hulman joins the show to talk about the mass deportation effort and how the courts are trying to get in the way of the will of the American people.
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00:01:57.000Newsom is obviously setting up for a run for the presidency in 2028, and I'm not so sure that his current strategy is really going to work, because what he's doing is he's trying to appeal to the right, but...
00:02:11.000What I see is people like AOC and Bernie Sanders, who are further left than politicians we've seen in the mainstream in modern American history, garnering so much support, breaking records with attendance at rallies.
00:02:23.000What the left may need right now is possibly somebody further to the left, not further to the right.
00:02:29.000Okay, so Ryan, which way do you think the Democrat Party is going to go?
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00:02:39.000I think that that was that kid if you couldn't.
00:02:44.000It depends on the primary structure for the 2028 presidential election.
00:02:48.000If they skip Iowa and New Hampshire again, it is very clear they're going to move to the center because Black voters, who will make up a majority of the voters in South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, these early states, I don't know about Florida anymore, but it was Florida forever, in the Democratic primary, they are centrist.
00:03:07.000They are centrist to conservative Democratic voters.
00:03:10.000The reason that Joe Biden was able to resurrect his entire career in the 2020 Democratic primary is because the South Carolina black voters resurrected him.
00:03:20.000And that's why Iowa was where Barack Obama was able to get his start.
00:03:25.000And he probably would have won anyway in South Carolina because he was a black candidate.
00:03:28.000But a lot of moderate candidates find their success in the Deep South.
00:03:32.000If the Deep South is the beginning of the 2020 presidential calendar, it is because the party is looking for a moderate person.
00:03:41.000Iowa, New Hampshire, anything like that, it will be leaning progressive.
00:03:45.000So speaking more broadly, if you kind of look at the four components of the current Democrat Party, they have people that are addicted to government programs.
00:04:29.000And if you look at that David Shore deep dive, which I know you've talked about in the past, the Democratic Party's worst demographic in the last election was men under the age of 20. Like, it is such a reversal because of how toxic...
00:04:47.000And the fact that Jasmine Crockett is a tie with Barack Obama in the CNN poll of who is the leader of the Democratic Party.
00:04:53.000They have the dime store Cardi B, who was a middle-aged woman who went to elite private schools.
00:04:58.000And then the former president, who hate him or love him, was the former president.
00:05:04.000And a very eloquent speaker with Jasmine Crockett, who was comparing a paralyzed person, calling him Hot Wheels today, at the Human Rights Convention.
00:05:13.000That is really a startling place for how much the party has kind of lost its mind and how much bigger the tent for the Republican Party has become.
00:05:34.000You know, what you see here is if you look at the top issues that voters care the most about, cost of living, the economy, taxes and government spending, you know, the deficit, foreign policy, you know, health care.
00:05:45.000Other than health care, where Democrats have a narrow lead, Republicans have massive trust advantages, you know, 15 points on all of the issues that voters care the most about.
00:05:55.000And so the story that I would tell in response to your question is that in this election, voters trusted That is quite a reversal in just a couple years.
00:06:12.000Well, one, the focus by Democrats on things that don't matter, like abortion and like the rise of fascism, which most people in their regular lives don't honestly think is the...
00:06:23.000One, is happening, and two, is happening tomorrow.
00:06:27.000And also the fact that Democrats really had a breakdown of civil society.
00:06:31.000Look, Democrats run almost every one of our major cities in America.
00:06:34.000The places in the 90s and 2000s that everyone wanted to be.
00:06:38.000Everyone wanted to be in New York or Los Angeles or in thriving metropolitan cities.
00:06:46.000I was actually thinking about this before.
00:06:48.000If you look at the new census numbers that had the number of immigrants moving to these cities and If it were not for mass immigration, blue cities would actually feel the repercussion of failed policies, and it's only because they keep bringing in these third-world immigrants that sit there and bring the population back.
00:07:07.000Americans have rejected them with their feet.
00:07:09.000They're leaving them in mass, and they have for the last five years.
00:07:12.000They have failed on quality of life issues across the board, and then they defend lawlessness from crime and riots to the border.
00:07:22.000And they expect you to feel more sorry for an illegal alien who's in a gang and has gang tattoos and was deported quickly than they do for that poor girl, the nursing student, who was killed in Georgia.
00:07:35.000That is a complete and total breakdown of where their thought process and what priorities are when it comes to how Americans live every day.
00:07:45.000So the prevailing wisdom was that if we just moderate our politics as Republicans, this is what Karl Rove would tell us.
00:07:54.000This is what Liz Cheney would tell us.
00:07:57.000This is what Adam Kinzinger would tell us.
00:07:59.000This is what a lot of the blubbery talking heads on cable TV will tell you.
00:08:15.000Don't talk about the war on white people.
00:08:17.000You just talk about lowering taxes for young people and that's how you'll win them.
00:08:24.000Well, it turns out that was all a bunch of rubbish.
00:08:26.000It turns out that young people wanted a cultural force.
00:08:30.000They wanted a reckoning against the prevailing rot that they were seeing encompass their nation.
00:08:38.000This is the New York Times, Ezra Klein and David Shore, about how Democrats are getting I'll be honest, I still don't think our audience is internalizing the improbability of this.
00:09:05.000I do think there was, even as the idea of the rising Democratic majority had become a little discredited in 2016 and 2020, I do think Democrats believed that these young voters were eventually going to save them.
00:09:18.000Right. That this was a last gasp of something.
00:09:21.000That if Donald Trump couldn't run these numbers up among seniors and you had millennials really coming into their voting power, Gen Z coming in, that was going to be the end of this Republican Party.
00:09:34.000It might be the beginning of this Republican Party.
00:09:36.000You know, I have to admit, I was one of those liberals four years ago, and it seems like I was wrong.
00:09:42.000I would just sit there and say that the work that you've done, the work that a lot of people do, the thing that the Liz Cheney's did not understand is what is a moderate?
00:09:49.000A moderate is not always Susan Collins.
00:09:51.000A moderate is very far right on immigration and maybe centrist on abortion and left-wing on health care.
00:09:57.000And we hit where the moderates actually cared about, like on immigration, the border, and the war against white people.
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00:11:06.000Here is the new leader of the Democrat Party, who is a race essentialist, a black woman in the Democrat Party, who always talks about race essentialism.
00:11:15.000Of course, we have no problem with people of different skin colors.
00:11:19.000I mean, by the way, Mia Love just passed away.
00:12:18.000Listen, she's in a super safe Democratic seat over in, I think, Dallas or Houston is one of the two.
00:12:22.000And she's trying to say, this is how I will break through as a potential lead in the Democratic Party, either to have a post career as a television host or a speaking engagement person, or she's going to sit there and run with AOC in the most.
00:13:12.000And I think that they're going to probably pick a man who is not a white man, who checks a lot of boxes, who speaks well and has centrist career things.
00:13:22.000The Harris DNC convention and the Hillary DNC convention, it looked a lot like a George W. Bush convention in the way they sounded about certain things, patriotism, America.
00:13:31.000They've definitely taken this road, and I just don't think there is enough people in the Democratic Party who live in Bushwick, Brooklyn, who've got pink hair, just that they were nominated.
00:13:43.000AOC could not win a statewide primary in New York against Chuck Schumer.
00:13:46.000That is why I believe partially she's looking at a national primary.
00:13:50.000Running for off president is a career booster.
00:13:53.000That is how you end up becoming Pete Buttigieg, which you would have never done if you had to run just being a mayor.
00:13:58.000So I think that there's going to be a lot of people in the clown car.
00:14:01.000But at the end of the day, I think black voters who make up the majority of primary voters for the Democratic Party in a lot of states, especially the big southeast states, they will be voting for a moderate man, probably a man of color.
00:14:15.000And I think that Westmore has what it takes right now.
00:14:19.000You do think AOC will run for the presidency.
00:14:21.000I mean, it looks, I don't, if she was not, I don't know what else she would be doing.
00:14:26.000Like, she's not doing anything differently than I would be advising her if I was a Democratic consultant.
00:14:30.000There's nothing that she's doing that would make me think she's not running for president.
00:14:34.000I don't think she's running for a statewide office in New York.
00:14:37.000I just don't think she's going to challenge Chuck Schumer's, you know, $50 million coffers.
00:14:41.000And she does, she isolates too many people in New York.
00:14:44.000There's too many voters who absolutely be appalled by her.
00:14:47.000So I think she's going to look at a national thing and being the national voice of the party.
00:14:51.000And she has a better chance of doing that, although I don't think she can win than she does at being a state, a U.S.
00:14:59.000It's a very interesting question that, by all appearances, the Democrat Party should moderate.
00:16:31.000There's a lot of excitement in Washington, D.C. as we start the year, but I wanted to talk to you about something just as exciting happening outside the D.C. Beltway, a revolution in the states.
00:16:42.000It's real, it's growing, and growing because some states, as they should, are putting parents in charge of the education of their kids.
00:16:50.000Everyone knows education has the power to change a kid's life, and anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles, and God.
00:16:59.000The fact is parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development and future.
00:17:06.000Education freedom legislation puts parents, not zip codes and politicians, in charge of these important family decisions.
00:17:13.000It's why I strongly support making universal education freedom a reality for every parent in every state.
00:17:20.000To find out where your state legislature stands and to make sure your voice is heard.
00:17:42.000Give us an update, our viewers, a macro update of how border operational security is proceeding and the deportation effort.
00:17:49.000I know you guys are working very hard.
00:17:51.000Give us an update from the front lines.
00:17:52.000Well, let me start with this first, if you don't mind.
00:17:55.000So, during CPAC, I made a statement that I was going to go to Boston and bring hell with me because of child rapists, illegal aliens that were walking the streets of Boston because of their sanctuary policies, not only in Boston, but the entire state of Massachusetts.
00:18:07.000Well, I went up there and started the...
00:18:09.000As promised, I went to Boston last Tuesday and we started a five-day operation.
00:18:13.000We arrested 370 illegal aliens, most of them criminal threats, and including child sexual predators, murderers, gun traffickers, drug traffickers.
00:19:23.000So part of what the media is focusing on is this Enemies Act that has been invoked to repel Trende Aragua in the interior of the United States.
00:19:35.000You guys have done a very good job of articulating the application of that law.
00:19:41.000Rachel Maddow and a lot of people on the far left are trying to make a big deal saying that, well, there are non-Trende Aragua members that were caught up in the deportation effort and expelling them to El Salvador.
00:19:53.000What is the truth of the matter here, Tom?
00:19:55.000I've talked to the highest levels of ICE.
00:19:57.000I've talked to the officers that are involved with that manifest and putting those targets together.
00:20:01.000They guarantee me that every one of the Venezuelans I have a plight with is a TDA member.
00:20:05.000It doesn't surprise me that any family member of TDA are going to say they're not TDA because they certainly don't want them in El Salvador in prison.
00:20:12.000But look, this was based on a lot of investigative work.
00:20:15.000Anything from scraping social media to surveillance to intelligence briefings to criminal investigations, just because a gang member doesn't have a criminal record doesn't mean they're not a gang member, just as most terrorists in this world aren't in any terrorist database.
00:20:31.000So I'm going to believe the men and women who do this for a living before I believe any member of TDA.
00:20:36.000I've been told they're all members of the TDA.
00:20:38.000TDA's been designated a terrorist organization.
00:20:41.000MS-13's been designated a terrorist organization.
00:20:44.000Everybody... Yeah, and so to reiterate that, what is your response to these judges?
00:20:57.000There's one judge in particular that just came out and said that these terrorists were treated worse than even the Nazis were.
00:21:05.000How dare this judge say something like that?
00:21:08.000But criticizing the administration for its treatment of these illegals.
00:21:16.000Because you're talking about the men and women of ICE who strap a gun to the hip every day, put a badge on their chest, and put themselves in harm's way every day to protect this public, to remove public safety threats and national security threats from the streets of this country, to compare them to the Nazis, for God's sakes?
00:21:37.000That should be an insult to every American to compare what ICE does every day to Nazis.
00:21:40.000It's incredible it's coming from a judge.
00:21:42.000These people, a lot of these people on these flights had due process because...
00:21:47.000Some of them were Title VIII, were moved to Title VIII.
00:21:49.000They already got ordered and removed by a federal judge.
00:21:51.000But the terrorists to the Alien Enemies Act, a law that was enacted by Congress and signed by a president, were enforcing the law on the books.
00:22:01.000President Trump, by proclamation, took the steps he could take to remove terrorists from the country as quick as possible, and that's exactly what we did.
00:22:09.000So I'm shocked but not surprised that somebody would say something like that, but it's disgusting.
00:22:16.000To the Democrat obstructionists like the mayor of Boston and many others like Kathy Hochul, I want to play Kathy Hochul's tape and get your reaction.
00:22:26.000We're not going to allow this mass deportation.
00:22:29.000Where we will cooperate, and I did this even under the Biden administration, if you have a warrant or you know someone's on a terrorism watch list or committing crimes in their home country or committing crimes here, that's a different category, and I will help you with those to protect.
00:22:44.000Everyone. But don't bleed over into going to schools and sensitive places.
00:22:49.000So our state policy, our state law, does not allow for our state police to be involved in those situations.
00:22:56.000Now what we have are some renegade counties in New York, because individual counties can sign a pact with ICE.
00:23:03.000They are cooperating with their local police departments, but what I control is the state police, and they will not cooperate.
00:23:10.000Has she been helpful, Tom, and your reaction to Governor Hochul?
00:24:11.000She ought to go talk to citizens in upstate New York, like Buffalo and Syracuse, where illegal aliens have killed young girls, American citizens.
00:24:19.000Again, she's an embarrassment to the position she holds.
00:24:21.000And I was up in New York just two weeks ago.
00:24:24.000I called her out at a press conference by her misstatements.
00:24:27.000Law enforcement, the cops, the law enforcement, the guys working the front line, they want to work with us because they know not only can we remove the public safety threats from the community, we can remove them from the country, which means law enforcement obviously don't have to rescue an illegal alien five or six times over and over again, which means they spend more time on public safety issues.
00:24:45.000So absolutely, she's lying to the American people.
00:25:45.000If you want to release a public safety threat criminal back in the community, it means I've got to send agents in the community to find him.
00:25:52.000When we find him, most likely he's with other illegal aliens and may not be a criminal.
00:25:57.000Be a criminal convicted or a public criminal threat.
00:26:00.000However, they're in a country illegal.
00:27:07.000Lawyers representing some of these people is that they deny that they're members of this gang, or either, you know, Trendy de Aragua or MS-13.
00:27:17.000That plane was full of people designated as terrorists, number one.
00:27:22.000Number two, every Venezuelan migrant on that flight was a TDA member based on numerous criminal investigations, on intelligence reports, and a lot of work by ICE officers.
00:27:34.000Matter of fact, two days after that flight took off, I even had a discussion with the acting director of ICE, and he reiterated that every person, every Venezuelan on that plane was a known member of the TDA.
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00:30:50.000Regardless of your opinion on abortion, hard-earned taxpayer dollars should not be going to subsidize Planned Parenthood.
00:30:58.000Planned Parenthood is an extension of the Democrat Party.
00:31:05.000Planned Parenthood runs ads against Donald Trump.
00:31:09.000Planned Parenthood did get out the vote against Donald Trump, and we are subsidizing that with our taxpayer dollars.
00:31:15.000By the way, we also are great partners with Preborn, which I am a donor to, which is a pro-life alternative to Planned Parenthood.
00:31:23.000So Planned Parenthood would say, oh, you know, we do mammograms and all this other stuff.
00:31:27.000Well, if that's the case, then why can't we send all that money to pro-life clinics that do mammograms and they do ultrasounds that are not like a hub and spoke that comes out of the DNC hub?
00:31:39.000Why is it that we have to have $700 million funding our political opposition?
00:31:45.000Outside of the moral issue that I have of funding abortion, that's not actually the most interesting part of this.
00:31:51.000The more interesting part is, why is it that U.S. taxpayers have to basically fund a Democrat super PAC?
00:31:58.000Planned Parenthood ran advertisements all across the country supporting Kamala Harris.
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