The Charlie Kirk Show - What's Really Behind The Drones Over Jersey?

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00:02:52.000 Joining us next is John Ferguson.

00:02:55.000 John Ferguson is the CEO of Saxon Aerospace and Saxon Unmanned.

00:03:00.000 He went very, very viral this weekend because Joe Rogan shared his clip.

00:03:05.000 John, welcome to the program.

00:03:07.000 John, I'm going to play this clip that went very viral, and then we have time.

00:03:10.000 I want you to just uninterruptedly and freely explain even deeper what happened here.

00:03:16.000 Joe Rogan said this was the first clip about the drones that actually scared him.

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00:03:22.000 So I spoke to a gentleman a few months ago who was trying to raise an alarm to the highest levels of our government, which they had their ears closed, about this one particular nuclear warhead that he physically put his hands on.

00:03:42.000 He physically touched this warhead that was left over from Ukraine. 0.99

00:03:47.000 And he knew that that thing was headed towards the United States.

00:03:54.000 That is a very serious deal.

00:03:56.000 And everyone knows that the United States government, this administration, is pushing to get into a war with Russia.

00:04:06.000 We all know that.

00:04:07.000 We all feel it.

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00:04:10.000 All right, John, what's going on here?

00:04:11.000 Well, thank you, Charlie.

00:04:14.000 And by the way, I saw you and Tucker here in Wichita a few months ago, so I really enjoyed that.

00:04:21.000 Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that Kansas State University didn't treat you very well.

00:04:27.000 You know, I'm still paying Casey's son.

00:04:32.000 So, uh, now, so, you know, I have, um, you know, a small political footprint and, you know, you and I know some similar people and, and, um, You know, as a manufacturer of unmanned systems, you know, some of the comments and other stories out there that have been done on me in the last couple of days are a little inaccurate.

00:04:56.000 I'm not a government-backed organization or anything like that, but again, I wanted to make sure I made that very clear, but You know, these folks knew that I had ties or I knew people in elevated positions here in the country and they wanted me to help them try to get awareness started over this,

00:05:20.000 you know, nuclear munition or this nuclear payload that this guy physically was in an Eastern, a small A country on the eastern block of Europe.

00:05:33.000 He physically put his hands on this and he knew that that was supposed to be heading to the United States.

00:05:38.000 This guy came back here to the States and he's like, hey everybody, there's this stuff going on.

00:05:45.000 Let's do something to raise awareness.

00:05:50.000 Let's stop this thing.

00:05:51.000 And he gained no traction.

00:05:54.000 So he reached out to me and said, In my network.

00:05:58.000 And then I tried, I made some phone calls and tried to get a hold of some people and it just didn't seem to go anywhere.

00:06:04.000 And that was about probably eight months or so ago. 0.68

00:06:09.000 And I thought, well, that's ridiculous. 0.75

00:06:12.000 And so...

00:06:13.000 When I saw these drone videos and I saw the hysteria going on about these drones and wondering if they were nefarious or if they were Iran's drones or anybody else's, I just felt compelled to do my first ever TikTok video.

00:06:32.000 Ever.

00:06:35.000 And this happened, but I just wanted to just tell people that, you know, these drones are here.

00:06:41.000 They're there to do a job.

00:06:43.000 And that's it.

00:06:45.000 And the federal government's not going to tell any of us ever what they're actually doing, you know?

00:06:53.000 And you're speculating that the drones are trying to sniff out radioactive material?

00:06:58.000 And has that been proven to be a successful strategy to find radioactive material before?

00:07:04.000 It is.

00:07:05.000 We have radioactive material sniffers on our unmanned aircraft.

00:07:10.000 That's absolutely a capability of an unmanned aircraft.

00:07:14.000 And if you look at what these drones are doing, there is some conflicting stories, but they seem to be trying to follow the FAA guidelines.

00:07:25.000 They have nav lights on them.

00:07:28.000 If they had a nefarious intent, then they wouldn't have nav lights on them.

00:07:32.000 But they're concerned about obviously hitting other manned aircraft in such a busy airspace area.

00:07:40.000 But it is a very successful operation or a very successful capability to be able to detect gases or other materials on the ground.

00:07:51.000 We have what we call methane detection systems where we mount them on our unmanned aircraft and we fly along pipelines and we can very accurately pick out pretty much almost 100% of every single gas leak.

00:08:06.000 Now, these drones are flying at night because they seem to be flying undercover and they do not want their The shape of the drone to be well known because then you can track down what manufacturer is actually producing the aircraft, right?

00:08:23.000 So they seem to be following some rules.

00:08:26.000 They're flying at night.

00:08:27.000 There's no reason really to be flying an unmanned aircraft at night unless you have a very specific purpose.

00:08:35.000 Because with a standard camera on a drone, you can't see anything at night unless you're using thermal optics or some form of sensor like that.

00:08:44.000 They're flying at night also because the winds are down.

00:08:48.000 They're not as aggressive as they are during the day.

00:08:50.000 So you would get a much more accurate reading at night when you're trying to smell chemicals or some type of gas.

00:09:00.000 So, I have so many questions.

00:09:02.000 Based on what you are seeing from these videos, are you able to decipher that they are American-made, American-sourced, and they're not foreign drones?

00:09:11.000 Are there defining configuration characteristics, or is it not clear based on the videos you've seen?

00:09:18.000 Most of the videos that I have seen are not...

00:09:25.000 Really very helpful in trying to determine who the very specific manufacturer is.

00:09:31.000 There are some photographs and videos out there of drones flying that is like, yeah, well, we know who that is, right?

00:09:39.000 But I couldn't really give a definitive answer on who specifically is the manufacturer of that aircraft.

00:09:47.000 I just couldn't give you a very accurate assessment on that.

00:09:54.000 But I do very firmly believe that these are absolutely not nefarious and from another country without us knowing the reason behind those aircraft.

00:10:05.000 And there's a lot of them.

00:10:07.000 It's an FAA monumental event for the FAA to give authorization to all of these.

00:10:15.000 How many drones approximately do you think have been in the airspace at one time?

00:10:19.000 The videos that I'm seeing, I'm seeing dozens.

00:10:23.000 So that would be, again, a monumental event to authorize that many aircraft to fly over a populated area.

00:10:30.000 That's just not something the FAA typically allows.

00:10:33.000 Is it possible that most of these are manned aircraft?

00:10:36.000 I do believe there's a mix.

00:10:37.000 I believe that some folks are out there.

00:10:39.000 I've seen some thermal imaging where people have actually shot videos of...

00:10:44.000 Aircraft that they thought were drones and they actually turned out, with the heat signatures, they actually turned out to be manned aircraft.

00:10:51.000 So there is a mix.

00:10:52.000 There's a mix of multi-copters, which are the vertical takeoff type drones, like, you know, quadcopters you get at Best Buy, but only much larger.

00:11:00.000 And then there's also a mixture of fixed-wing aircraft that I've been able to see.

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00:12:12.000 What else could it be?

00:12:13.000 Let's try to challenge the assumption.

00:12:15.000 What other explanations could it be here?

00:12:17.000 And is there any chance that this is just people in hysterics just going bonkers over nothing?

00:12:24.000 No, I think that people are going absolutely crazy over this thing because of the huge unknown.

00:12:31.000 And if you see in the video, I said this has the potential to be what it actually could be.

00:12:36.000 I know that makes really doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:12:38.000 But, you know, the potential is if this is a worst case scenario, then I felt compelled, you know, to really just say, hey, look, wait, time out, everybody time out.

00:12:50.000 These are not nefarious.

00:12:52.000 In my eyes, they're not nefarious.

00:12:54.000 And I went over on the second and third video, I went over technically why they're not coming out of the water.

00:13:00.000 They're not coming off of a large vessel off the coast, unless they're a certain type of drone.

00:13:08.000 But, you know, I didn't want to spread fear and panic.

00:13:13.000 I just wanted to give a technical expert's advice You know, opinion on why they are not something that you really need to be concerned about as far as really nefarious intent.

00:13:28.000 It's actually what they're looking for that I think is what we should be concerned about.

00:13:32.000 You know, so again, as I stated before, there's no reason for all of these drones to be flying in this pattern with this many aircraft out there.

00:13:44.000 There's no real reason for that unless you're very specifically looking for something.

00:13:49.000 And that something has to be so damned important that you're going to cause a nationwide or now a worldwide crisis.

00:14:02.000 Hysteria.

00:14:02.000 I'm just doing the math.

00:14:04.000 We know that these nuclear warheads came up missing in the 80s.

00:14:10.000 We know that.

00:14:10.000 We know they're out there.

00:14:11.000 They're all over the world.

00:14:12.000 We don't know where the hell they are.

00:14:14.000 We know that they're here.

00:14:16.000 We know that we have some here.

00:14:18.000 That's been talked about for years.

00:14:22.000 I'm just doing the math.

00:14:23.000 The drones have a very specific reason and it better be a very specific Good reason to cause all of this panic, you know, in the United States to be flying these drones out there.

00:14:37.000 So again, what they're looking for, I think has to be very important.

00:14:40.000 And I don't know if it's radioactive.

00:14:43.000 I can't say that, you know, specifically.

00:14:46.000 Yeah, for a layman like myself and most of the audience, if someone were to have a dirty bomb or a remnant of that, does that leave a trail of radioactivity almost definitionally?

00:15:00.000 Or is it a little bit murkier than that?

00:15:03.000 I am not an expert, but I've been on the phone with a lot of people here lately, and they had one really nice lady who said that they probably have U-2 spy planes that were specifically designed for I don't know if they would leave some type of a radioactive snail trail.

00:15:21.000 I would say that they're very well contained because if they are leaving some type of a snail trail, then you're going to have a line of people that are going to have You know, cancer from the whole entire duration of this, the journey of this particular asset.

00:15:37.000 So, I don't believe, but I'm not, again, I'm not a radioactive, I'm not a nuclear expert, I'm a drone expert, so...

00:15:46.000 So if I were to guess, I would say that my hypothesis would be that they would not be leaving a snail trail, but you would have to be over the source in order to find it.

00:15:58.000 Because it has to be contained.

00:15:59.000 If it's not contained, then it's a whole new thing.

00:16:02.000 Right.

00:16:03.000 It's a whole new scare.

00:16:04.000 How long has this been going on?

00:16:06.000 Because I kind of rolled my eyes at first at the story because there's just so much of these stories that end up not manifesting to something worthy of attention.

00:16:13.000 How long has this been going on and is it ongoing as of last night?

00:16:16.000 Yeah, it's ongoing.

00:16:18.000 I spoke to the guys last night and I said, look, now that we have the spotlight, unfortunately or fortunately or whatever, we need to follow this through and we need to get somebody's attention to say, hey, let's work together to go find...

00:16:33.000 What we believe to be is true.

00:16:36.000 That asset was on its way to this country.

00:16:39.000 This guy knows about it.

00:16:40.000 He physically touched it.

00:16:42.000 So let's work together.

00:16:45.000 Let's find it.

00:16:47.000 It's a very true thing.

00:16:49.000 And this stuff has been going on for decades.

00:16:51.000 Everybody knows about it in D.C. that work on defense and national security.

00:17:01.000 I think that mystery guy needs to come forward.

00:17:05.000 No, I mean, this is, again, I don't want people to panic, and if this has been going on for a couple weeks now, you have to wonder.

00:17:05.000 Yeah.

00:17:13.000 It doesn't quite add up.

00:17:15.000 It doesn't quite add up in my head.

00:17:17.000 All right, John, thank you so much.

00:17:19.000 Appreciate it.

00:17:19.000 Thank you.

00:17:20.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:17:23.000 What do you think these drones are? 0.95

00:17:26.000 Something is not adding up.

00:17:29.000 I wish we trusted our government.

00:17:33.000 Joining us now is John McGuire, senior SIS CIA case officer, retired.

00:17:39.000 John, thank you for taking the time.

00:17:40.000 John, the audience right now is very worried about what they are seeing over New Jersey, New York, spreading to other states.

00:17:47.000 What is your theory as to what is happening in the skies of America right now?

00:17:52.000 Well, Charlie, thank you for the opportunity to join you today.

00:17:55.000 There's some fresh material that just came in to...

00:18:00.000 Through people that I know that are in the foreign field and keeping track of this, that now there's issues with drones on the southwestern side of San Diego and in that area, Ventura County, as well as some issues that happened last night in Virginia Beach with drones as well.

00:18:20.000 It's a huge problem when you have the federal government speaking officially The Secretary of Homeland Security, Mr. Mayorkas, and they're in complete conflict with the state guidance that's given out by the governor of New Jersey.

00:18:35.000 Regardless of what is said, the American public knows that the federal system and the state system are on different pages, and that leads any thinking person to believe that someone is lying.

00:18:48.000 Which side is lying is anybody's guess, but there's a long history of the federal government misleading the public and to say that there is no danger, that there's nothing to worry about, and these are not a threat, and then have the guidance come out from the state that says if you see a drone that has crashed or is in your immediate vicinity,

00:19:09.000 call the bomb squad, the fire department, and the fire department will respond as it's a hazmat site because you don't know what is on The drone that may have dropped out of the sky.

00:19:20.000 And there is confusion and growing concern and anger within the public.

00:19:26.000 And this is part of the rupture of the public trust.

00:19:30.000 So, do you think they are foreign in origination or domestic?

00:19:35.000 I think there's a mix of both.

00:19:37.000 I think the United States has operational platforms in the air.

00:19:41.000 There are large drones that are operated by the U.S. government that carry sniffer technology and they look for things in the air that you might have in a post- Incident or post-blast event that they would be able to find out what it is.

00:19:57.000 You wouldn't have to fly a manned aircraft through a cloud.

00:19:59.000 You could just do it with a drone.

00:20:01.000 But mixed in with that are a whole lot of other drones that no one is talking about from the federal level, like they don't exist, but they do exist.

00:20:11.000 People can see them.

00:20:12.000 And there is a large presence of Chinese operations people and Iranian operations people in Mexico.

00:20:19.000 The largest Iranian embassy in the world is Mexico City, which is a fundamentally Catholic country.

00:20:26.000 And there are no mosques in Mexico, yet the Iranians have their largest embassy's presence in Mexico.

00:20:34.000 In Mexico City.

00:20:35.000 The Chinese have operational components up in the Mazatlan area, where they bring things in and out of the port of Mexico.

00:20:43.000 There's a huge port at Mazatlan.

00:20:46.000 And those are all within immediate striking distance of the California border and Vandenberg Air Force Base, where we have a tremendous amount of national assets that are critical to the defense of the country and for early warning.

00:21:01.000 It doesn't bode well for the foolishness that we see in explanations from senior executives for the U.S. federal government.

00:21:11.000 Yeah, and they're not being very clear about what they're doing in the sky.

00:21:16.000 So if you were to speculate then, if they were Iranian in nature, what would they be doing over our skies just... 0.93

00:21:22.000 Hovering.

00:21:23.000 And why only at night?

00:21:25.000 At night, there is legislation that was passed quietly.

00:21:29.000 I think it was last year where they passed legislation that you could start flying drones at night.

00:21:33.000 For a long time, you could only fly them in the daytime.

00:21:36.000 But they are air obstacles on their best day.

00:21:40.000 We still have air travel all night long, especially in places like Southern California and the East Coast of the United States.

00:21:45.000 It's 24 hour a day busy.

00:21:48.000 It's just a matter of time before we have some type of a mishap with aircraft and drones that are in airspace and they move so quickly they can move vertically, change altitude, and no one's really keeping track of or directing the lanes of traffic.

00:22:05.000 But the fact that the Iranians are here, if you have Iranian drones operating and they're mixed in with other U.S. platforms, and the Chinese can operate platforms like that that are good-sized platforms, You have the ability to photograph, see, take visual observation.

00:22:22.000 You can map things.

00:22:24.000 You can have cell phone relays on there.

00:22:26.000 There's a lot of material that goes on a drone.

00:22:29.000 And they refined that test when they did the balloon operation.

00:22:34.000 The balloon operation that floated across the northern United States It was, I think, a test operation.

00:22:40.000 They wanted to see what the reaction would be.

00:22:42.000 But the thing that disturbed me the most about that when you have drones now over the system is there were delivery racks slung in those balloon rigs that we witnessed the shoot down.

00:22:56.000 When that material was recovered from the ocean, You could see clearly the delivery racks, but they were empty.

00:23:04.000 They wouldn't fly an empty rack, which is a heavy thing that is controlled by the balloon electronically for you to deliver things and drop things from the balloon.

00:23:16.000 And we don't know what was in those racks and no one seems curious about it in the federal government to find out or to release what was in those racks.

00:23:27.000 And if you drop things from those racks, it's a passive activity.

00:23:30.000 They drop and they hit the ground.

00:23:33.000 And a lot of them can go in the ground just from terminal velocity of falling from the sky.

00:23:38.000 But they can be electronic collection devices, relays.

00:23:42.000 Lots of things can be delivered by balloons.

00:23:45.000 And you can deliver the same things from a drone, but you can arm a drone.

00:23:49.000 And if you have a camera on it and you can see, you can use it as a flyable platform that's accurate and precise in its targeting.

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00:25:03.000 So the Iranians, we know they want to assassinate President Trump. 1.00

00:25:07.000 Are you suggesting that these might be here on a nefarious mission to try to assassinate President Trump before certification day on January the 6th?

00:25:16.000 Charlie, that's the million dollar question, because some of the things that people like me have, and it's nothing magical about me, it's the fact that there has been a transition of trust and a loss of trust, not only within the US government system and the population of the US, but especially between foreign Friendly Liaison Services and other groups that operate overseas and the CIA at large.

00:25:43.000 And our presence overseas is not robustly and aggressively pursuing human operations.

00:25:50.000 But there are people all over the world that remember their own, the case officers that they met along the way and have reached out.

00:25:59.000 There are also people reaching out to people like me that are good officers with reputations within the system.

00:26:06.000 Because they trust us and they're inside the government now, our government, explaining what they've been asked to do and what is actually going on.

00:26:16.000 And there is, I believe, very solid intelligence that the Iranians have committed to people inside our system that they intend to ensure that President Trump is not there on the 20th of January.

00:26:33.000 I look at Iran, a lot of people dismiss them, you know, they're just foreigners and they say all kinds of blustery things and everything. 0.97

00:26:40.000 Political assassination, the word assassin is a Persian word.

00:26:44.000 They invented political assassination.

00:26:47.000 They invented the car bomb as a political tool.

00:26:51.000 They invented kidnapping and operational use of their people to change policies. 0.63

00:26:57.000 They drove us out of Lebanon.

00:27:00.000 With car bombs, vehicular mounted IEDs, assassination, they kidnapped the chief of station and murdered him in a most horrific way.

00:27:08.000 And we left Lebanon back in the Iranian administration.

00:27:12.000 They know how to do this.

00:27:15.000 They assassinated Hariri and one of the most complicated Operational things I've ever seen done that required two years of link analysis to unravel what they actually did to vector a truck bomb into an up-armored Mercedes limo that was in a group of nine identical limos,

00:27:37.000 yet they vectored the truck bomb against Hariri's car at the right time in the right place and killed the president of Lebanon in a massive explosion.

00:27:47.000 But he was alive in the armored car.

00:27:49.000 The armored car was not on its wheels anymore because of the blast.

00:27:54.000 And President Hariri from Lebanon suffocated or burned to death or a combination of both because of the fire.

00:28:02.000 The car kept itself intact.

00:28:04.000 But the Iranians understand if you have a level nine limousine, You just need a bigger bomb. 1.00

00:28:12.000 It's not to blow up the car, but if the car isn't on its wheels anymore, if it's upside down or on its side, you have essentially achieved your goal.

00:28:23.000 You have frozen your target on the X. And if you need to, you can come up with another bomb that comes in and goes off again, right next to it.

00:28:35.000 They are determined And they hate President Trump because of what happened with Qasem Soleimani.

00:28:42.000 To think that they're not going to try is just folly.

00:28:45.000 They will try and they will keep trying until they succeed.

00:28:50.000 They're not going to withdraw the fatwa for the killing of Qasem Soleimani.

00:28:55.000 So just how serious is Iran about avenging the death of Soleimani?

00:29:00.000 I mean, if they were to successfully, God forbid, assassinate one of our leaders, that would result in a ferocious response.

00:29:09.000 Is Iran really ready for that kind of vertical escalation?

00:29:12.000 I'm not sure that they're overly concerned about it because they can absorb an awful lot of punishment if that's what happens.

00:29:20.000 But I'm not convinced, unless we have a different administration in place, that there would be an overwhelming response.

00:29:28.000 There could be so much confusion in the air sown by the fact that you've got all these drones and there's multiple targets.

00:29:34.000 You've created a narrative that is confusing the public now.

00:29:38.000 What you feed into that narrative, if you have the opportunity after and a post event You can feed in more confusion, more facts, more blame, diversify the blame.

00:29:51.000 There's a lot of avenues for how to do a deception program that the U.S. is sensitive.

00:29:58.000 We're sensitized to that stuff.

00:30:00.000 And you can confuse the hell out of people on what actually happened.

00:30:03.000 And do we want to take the step of bombing a country because we blame Iran?

00:30:09.000 We may not be able to figure out who did it forensically.

00:30:12.000 Yes.

00:30:12.000 But the fact is, if it happens, then we're faced with a long series of how do we transition to an inauguration?

00:30:21.000 What do we do?

00:30:22.000 This is something we've never faced.

00:30:25.000 At the root of a lot of this is that we inherently do not trust our government or our intel services.

00:30:29.000 What can President Trump do to rebuild the trust and the fidelity that we have to the intel community?

00:30:37.000 Charlie, that's an outstanding question because we have reached the level now where you have an entire generation of young people.

00:30:45.000 My kids are grown, but they're in their 30s.

00:30:47.000 And they said something to me a while ago that said, you know, Dad, we have never seen or experienced the America that you grew up in.

00:30:56.000 We have only seen turmoil, chaos, lying, corruption, and all kinds of mess come out of Washington.

00:31:03.000 And what President Trump has managed to do by getting elected, he has just swept in a fresh air blast Into what is a very dark and horrible place in Washington, D.C. He is looked at, especially by the younger generation, as somebody that may be able to pull this thing around and fix it.

00:31:27.000 He can fix it.

00:31:28.000 A lot of his conditions for success were set by his victory, but the way he's trying to populate his cabinet is one of the best things you can do.

00:31:38.000 Bringing in people like Pete Hegseth to run the Pentagon, Amaryllis Kennedy to be a high official in the agency.

00:31:47.000 That's a generational shift.

00:31:50.000 And when you're inside the system and you're working for both of them, for Hegseth and for Amaryllis, when you are between 10 and 15 years when you leave, you are a journeyman level person.

00:32:03.000 For both of them, they know what goes on, they know how to do their jobs, and they know the system that they operate in.

00:32:09.000 They know what's wrong with it, and they know how to fix it.

00:32:13.000 You don't fix stuff from entrenched bureaucrats who have been around and are steeped And are owned by the corruption system.

00:32:21.000 You fixed major bureaucracies with young people who are not corrupted and they know how to do the job and they know how to fix the system.

00:32:30.000 And you don't have to be around for 40 years to figure that out.

00:32:34.000 When you have 10 to 15, from your fifth year You're an apprentice sort of when you get hired, trained, deployed, and functional.

00:32:44.000 By five years, you've got your first tour under your belt and you've demonstrated that you can do the job.

00:32:49.000 Then you do it for 10 more years and you do it well and you refine the craft.

00:32:54.000 That's the same thing you have in the Pentagon that you have in the CIA. And that's the kind of thing that President Trump is bringing into his Administration is young journeyman level people that know how to do what the work mission is, the core mission.

00:33:12.000 And this whole thing about age and then the machinery can be unleashed against people like that to come up with all kinds of stories and lies and they throw all this dirt at them in hopes that they can get them pushed out of the way.

00:33:25.000 That's where we are with some of these young people that have been appointed to key positions.

00:33:30.000 And that is something that they just need to shoulder through that, ignore it and do it because people will come out of the woodwork to come back to the agency.

00:33:41.000 They'll come back in the Pentagon and they'll want to come back to work if they believe that a president has put someone in charge and is completely behind change.

00:33:53.000 Not change for the sake of change or changing the wiring diagram, changing what we do overseas and domestically and restoring the public trust.

00:34:04.000 We hide so much stuff from the public that should not be classified.

00:34:09.000 When I sent a cable from the field to buy pencils, it was a classified mission cable.

00:34:15.000 That's absurd.

00:34:17.000 All of it's absurd.

00:34:19.000 Classifications are to protect sources and methods.

00:34:22.000 That's why we have them.

00:34:24.000 It's not to protect mistakes, corruption, waste, and foolishness that occurs inside the system.

00:34:32.000 And you need someone to come in and really rattle the core bureaucratic lethargy that is set in across the government.

00:34:42.000 And the government is too big.

00:34:45.000 His effort to cut stuff down has been reinforced by the research that was done during the COVID shutdown.

00:34:52.000 That is the key.

00:34:54.000 Sweep it out and bring new people in.

00:34:57.000 John, thank you so much.

00:34:59.000 Appreciate it.

00:34:59.000 We are out of time.

00:35:00.000 John, thank you so much.

00:35:01.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:35:02.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:03.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:06.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 17, 2024

What's Really Behind The Drones Over Jersey?

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