The Charlie Kirk Show - What Should Men Do About the Trans Agenda? LIVE from Fervent Church

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00:01:14.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:16.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:01:18.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:21.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:24.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:26.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:26.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:35.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:44.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:46.000 Honor to be here.

00:01:47.000 And, you know, this state, I'll tell you what, you deserve better leaders.

00:01:51.000 My goodness.

00:01:58.000 I love Colorado.

00:01:59.000 I've been coming here my whole life.

00:02:00.000 And what a beautiful place with wonderful people.

00:02:05.000 And my goodness, we have to get people back into leadership in this state at every level that love the Lord and want to fight for liberty and freedom.

00:02:14.000 So, look, TPUSA Faith, it's a project of Turning Point USA.

00:02:18.000 We're focused on trying to build coalitions for liberty to support pastors and churches to continue to inform their congregations and contest for freedom and liberty where it matters most.

00:02:29.000 We believe the church is essential.

00:02:30.000 We're going to make sure that the church never gets locked down again while cannabis dispensaries and strip clubs and abortion clinics remain open.

00:02:38.000 And your church passed the test very well.

00:02:41.000 Most churches did not.

00:02:43.000 Most churches locked down.

00:02:45.000 We never shut down.

00:02:46.000 And praise God for that.

00:02:47.000 We never masked.

00:02:48.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:02:49.000 And look, we believe, we hate tyranny at Turning Point USA.

00:02:55.000 You should too.

00:02:56.000 God hates tyranny.

00:02:57.000 He wants you to live in freedom and in liberty.

00:02:59.000 That is what Jesus is all about, to set the captives free, to no longer be a slave to sin, to be in a position of being terrorized by your bad decisions or by your natural defaults in the original sin.

00:03:13.000 And the same goes here in the earthly realm, that we should not want anyone to live under tyranny, that a constitutional government for and by the people, a separation of powers, independent judiciary, consent to the governed, these are so important for a free people to contest for.

00:03:30.000 In fact, I believe we are biblically commanded to fight for such things.

00:03:34.000 I believe that we should be contesting for liberty and freedom at every level.

00:03:39.000 So at TPUSA Faith, we are here to support the pastors that want to take those bold stands.

00:03:44.000 We want to help support the churches that want to inform and educate their congregation.

00:03:49.000 Not even about politics, by the way.

00:03:50.000 It's not even about that.

00:03:52.000 It's about citizenship.

00:03:53.000 It's about what is this country and why is it so important?

00:03:56.000 It's about where do your rights come from?

00:03:59.000 That's much more important than politics, by the way.

00:04:00.000 You can put politics aside for a second.

00:04:02.000 We want to create biblical, active, and informed citizens.

00:04:06.000 And in fact, I think we can all agree that you put the politics aside is that we have a spiritual, we have an educational, and we have a moral crisis going on right now in America that even transcends a lot of the traditional political issues.

00:04:18.000 So I know you work with some really great guys like Jack Hibbs and Rob McCoy and so on and so forth.

00:04:25.000 But what I think the citizen, you know, the citizens as well as the pastors don't realize is, you know, you hear the quote, you know, give to Caesar what is Caesar.

00:04:34.000 What they don't realize is, is we're Caesar in this country.

00:04:37.000 It's we the people, right?

00:04:39.000 We're little kings.

00:04:40.000 We're sovereigns, okay?

00:04:42.000 It's not some unelected officials in wherever, but it is us as we the people standing up for rights.

00:04:50.000 Can you speak into that a little bit?

00:04:52.000 Yeah, that's such an important point.

00:04:53.000 So one of the scriptures that is used a lot by churches, I think incorrectly, is Romans 13.

00:04:58.000 You probably all have heard it.

00:04:59.000 You probably heard it cited a lot as a reason that you must submit to the government.

00:05:04.000 So it says in Romans 13, I'm paraphrasing, but basically that you need to submit to those in authority and basically that they're there for your good.

00:05:14.000 I'm essentially paraphrasing.

00:05:15.000 Now, so you think about it, who's actually in authority here in America?

00:05:19.000 We are.

00:05:20.000 The people are in authority.

00:05:21.000 So if you read Romans 13 through a constitutional lens, the lens that our framers and our founders gave us, it's the governor of Colorado that needs to submit to us.

00:05:33.000 It's not that we submit to him.

00:05:36.000 It's completely different.

00:05:38.000 And I think the problem is, is we had a lot of pastors that were sitting at the table that Jesus would overturn.

00:05:45.000 Like being on committees with Paulus and everything else.

00:05:47.000 Like, I mean, this guy's a deviant.

00:05:50.000 I mean, he forced CRT in schools.

00:05:53.000 He forced gender fluidity and gender identity into schools.

00:05:57.000 And here we have pastors sitting at the table with this guy that Jesus would overturn.

00:06:02.000 What do you think of that?

00:06:03.000 I mean, look, you guys know the set of circumstances here in Colorado better than I do.

00:06:07.000 I'm not a big fan, obviously.

00:06:10.000 But look, I'll say this: that to what end?

00:06:13.000 Right?

00:06:13.000 Are you sitting at the table to try to contest for the unborn and try to push back against this gender nonsense?

00:06:19.000 Or are you sitting at the table trying to seek this fake agreement to try to get people to like you when in reality you're not contesting for truth?

00:06:28.000 I'll sit down at the table with anybody.

00:06:30.000 I mean that.

00:06:30.000 But I'm not going to waiver for what I believe in.

00:06:33.000 And I'm not going to sign on to something as if I'm agreeing, right?

00:06:37.000 So I don't know.

00:06:37.000 Maybe those pastors, you obviously, I trust your judgment.

00:06:41.000 If they're sitting there and agreeing to something and signing their name to something that is unbiblical, then I have no patience for that whatsoever.

00:06:48.000 And that happens a lot, right?

00:06:50.000 Where, you know, a lot of churches will say, listen, you know, in the spirit of trying to build bridges, right?

00:06:57.000 I'm going to be on this committee.

00:06:58.000 And like, okay, well, what does that committee stand for?

00:07:00.000 Like, what are you trying to push forward for?

00:07:02.000 But look, I'll talk to anyone at any time, and we should be open to that.

00:07:06.000 But at the same time, then there'll be a test of you.

00:07:09.000 You must have the courage that when all of a sudden it says, hey, you know, should we have non-binary bathrooms that you as the pastor or as the Christian on that committee are willing to sacrifice all of the goodwill that you might have brought up?

00:07:22.000 Like, you don't actually know.

00:07:24.000 I think men are men and women are women, and I don't think we should have non-binary bathrooms in the state of Colorado.

00:07:30.000 Created in the likeness and images of God, man and woman, period, the end.

00:07:35.000 And I know that you've said a few times that the church has advocated their responsibility in the public square.

00:07:42.000 And one time I heard you say a quote, which I completely agree with.

00:07:47.000 How do some of these guys even call themselves pastors?

00:07:50.000 And I know a lot of these guys are well-meaning and they have different convictions than I have, but I don't think that's shepherding the flock very well.

00:07:57.000 No, and this goes to a deeper point, right?

00:07:59.000 Which is, first and foremost, does the Bible ever command us to care about our government?

00:08:03.000 And many pastors, they conveniently skip over Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, just to name a few.

00:08:11.000 Jesus and John the Baptist.

00:08:13.000 There you go.

00:08:15.000 And so, not to mention Jeremiah 29, 7, a direct commandment from the Lord that says, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

00:08:26.000 That is a commandment for us to care about the type of government we have, to care about our nation, to care about what's happening around us.

00:08:32.000 But look, it comes down to this.

00:08:34.000 Is it easy to do what you're doing?

00:08:37.000 No.

00:08:38.000 What we're doing tonight is hard.

00:08:40.000 What we're doing tonight, most pastors don't want to deal with it.

00:08:43.000 They don't want to deal with it.

00:08:44.000 They've got a lot of hate mail.

00:08:45.000 I've already gotten a lot of hate mail about you, but hey, you know, praise the Lord.

00:08:48.000 You're welcome.

00:08:51.000 But yeah, look, I mean, they don't want to deal with it largely because they're going to get bad emails.

00:08:57.000 They're going to have questions they're not comfortable answering.

00:09:00.000 And so what business are you in exactly?

00:09:02.000 Are you in the business of being a pastor or kind of like a wannabe Instagram celebrity that wants nothing but just kind of people to love them?

00:09:11.000 If that's the case, then get out of the pastor business, right?

00:09:15.000 If that's the case.

00:09:17.000 Because, and, you know, what's so funny, though, is that every church that has decided to take a stand and to inform their congregation has grown.

00:09:26.000 They've multiplied.

00:09:27.000 They're seeing their tithes and their offerings and their attendance go up.

00:09:30.000 But it is hard.

00:09:32.000 It is hard because you're going to come under the scorn of the local media.

00:09:35.000 It's hard because then people say, I don't want this church to become political.

00:09:40.000 Now, well, how do we respond to that?

00:09:41.000 I mean, personally, I respond, I am not political.

00:09:45.000 This is a spiritual battle.

00:09:46.000 I'm not political.

00:09:47.000 I stand up for righteousness.

00:09:49.000 I shine the light in the darkness and I speak truth.

00:09:51.000 Jesus spoke truth, brood of vipers, sons of hell, children of the devil.

00:09:55.000 So, I mean, for me, I believe that it's a call from God that we call evil evil.

00:10:03.000 You know, call those that call good evil and evil good out on the carpet.

00:10:09.000 Yeah, well said.

00:10:10.000 And it's not even about being political is the way we should respond, right?

00:10:13.000 Tonight, we're not going to talk about political parties.

00:10:14.000 We're not going to do any of that.

00:10:15.000 Instead, what I will say, though, is I will tell you clearly and definitively what a woman is.

00:10:29.000 You're not a biologist.

00:10:31.000 I'm not a biologist.

00:10:32.000 I'm not a biologist.

00:10:33.000 Listen, I'm not a veterinarian.

00:10:36.000 When I see a dog, I know it.

00:10:38.000 When I go outside, I know it's raining, and I'm not a meteorologist.

00:10:42.000 When I see a woman, I know it's a woman, even though I'm not a biologist.

00:10:45.000 Whoa, man, right?

00:10:47.000 Amen.

00:10:48.000 Now, what's the importance of such a statement?

00:10:53.000 When the church goes quiet, moral truths go into confusion.

00:10:59.000 Pastors say, I don't do that stuff.

00:11:00.000 Oh, you don't do what as a man and what as a woman?

00:11:03.000 Really?

00:11:03.000 What exactly do you do?

00:11:05.000 Do you do what as a baby, right?

00:11:07.000 No, they don't, right?

00:11:09.000 And so it gets down to what is moral and absolute truth.

00:11:12.000 That's what we're fighting for, right?

00:11:14.000 We as Christians, we believe that there are some unchangeable laws of nature.

00:11:19.000 We also believe there was a God that put those laws of nature into existence.

00:11:23.000 The founders believed it as well, the laws of nature and nature's God.

00:11:27.000 But when you have someone who is a nominee for the Supreme Court, almost in a smug way, say, can I give a definition of a woman?

00:11:35.000 By the way, being a woman and being only appointed to be on the Supreme Court because she's a black woman, say, you know, I'm not a biologist, that should be kind of a cultural timeout for us.

00:11:44.000 Like, whoa, why is it that people that used to communicate very basic things have gone silent?

00:11:50.000 And that should be a warning.

00:11:52.000 Every pastor in the country should have showed that clip to their congregation and said, listen, we don't have to overcomplicate this.

00:11:59.000 We can go into chromosomal structure who can have children and can have children.

00:12:02.000 But at this church and in any Bible-believing church, we believe God created man and God created women.

00:12:08.000 That's a starting point instead.

00:12:10.000 Pastors, a lot of them are silent on that issue.

00:12:13.000 So it's not even a matter of that.

00:12:14.000 It's a matter of, are you going to talk about truth?

00:12:16.000 I'm wondering if they don't want to lose their relational clout or their political clout, because that's what I'm seeing in a lot of these churches.

00:12:24.000 They don't want to lose their political clout, so they're willing to turn a blind eye to bad voting records.

00:12:29.000 Well, look, I want to say there are more and more pastors starting to rise up.

00:12:32.000 So there are three different types of churches.

00:12:34.000 We can go through three really quick.

00:12:36.000 First and foremost, there's the courageous church.

00:12:38.000 You're sitting in one right now.

00:12:40.000 Praise God.

00:12:40.000 You're sitting in a courageous church.

00:12:42.000 Thank you.

00:12:43.000 You are.

00:12:44.000 And there's more of them than I think we give credit for.

00:12:49.000 There's Brave Church up in Denver that we spoke at, phenomenal church.

00:12:53.000 There's more and more.

00:12:54.000 And there are pastors that are like, okay, you know, five years ago, maybe not, but now that people are asking me what a woman is, maybe I should speak up.

00:13:00.000 Good.

00:13:01.000 Good.

00:13:02.000 We should encourage them.

00:13:03.000 We want more in the courageous category.

00:13:06.000 Lead, follower, get out of the way.

00:13:08.000 When we see people that want to start leading, we need to encourage them.

00:13:11.000 Even people that might have been on the fence two years ago.

00:13:14.000 Not that, oh, you were woke two years ago, but maybe they were then, but what are they now?

00:13:18.000 Okay.

00:13:18.000 We believe in conversion stories, kind of a backbone of our entire belief system, right?

00:13:23.000 Have an openness to people that genuinely want to learn and improve.

00:13:28.000 Okay?

00:13:28.000 And that could be hard.

00:13:29.000 And we can give a lot of grace for that.

00:13:31.000 We should.

00:13:31.000 And it's hard for me because I'm like, wait a second.

00:13:34.000 You were marching in the BLM parade, but I'm like, you know what?

00:13:37.000 I really feel a sense of genuine openness now where you want to improve and you want to learn.

00:13:41.000 So that's the first type.

00:13:42.000 The second type of church is the cowardly church.

00:13:45.000 Okay.

00:13:46.000 Now, we want to try to get more of them into the courageous category.

00:13:48.000 But they're the churches that really are afraid of losing relational clout.

00:13:52.000 And they're afraid of engaging on these issues, but deep down they know they should.

00:13:57.000 So it goes down to two reasons why they don't.

00:13:59.000 They don't know how to or they're afraid to.

00:14:02.000 So they don't know how to we can fix at TPUSA faith.

00:14:05.000 We can give you the reasons why this country was founded on Christian biblical principles, founded by Christians, that 55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing, regular church attending Christians.

00:14:17.000 We could tell you how the Protestant Reformation led to the teachings of really the basis of Western civilization that then led to Whitfield and Edwards and Jonathan Mayhew being the black robe regimen that spurred on the fight for liberty in America.

00:14:32.000 We can give you all of that, the best training available.

00:14:36.000 So that's fixable.

00:14:37.000 What's not so easily fixable is the crisis that's happening in America.

00:14:41.000 And I want to just encourage all of you, the moms showing up to school boards, the parents that are starting to homeschool, those of you that are standing up when there's something at risk, which is the crisis of courage.

00:14:52.000 And courage is the first virtue, according to Aristotle, because it touches all the other virtues.

00:14:57.000 Like, how can you live in liberty if someone's not standing with courage to protect your liberty?

00:15:03.000 Courage is the virtue that requires action.

00:15:06.000 It's a thinking and a doing virtue.

00:15:08.000 It's a very vivid virtue.

00:15:10.000 Yet as George S. Patton, big Patton fan, by the way, famously said, moral courage is the most necessary yet absent characteristic in man.

00:15:19.000 Boy, isn't that true.

00:15:20.000 And we see it all across the country.

00:15:22.000 So there's a pastor that will be like, I know what I want, I know what I should do, but I'm afraid to do it.

00:15:27.000 Now, that's where I kind of get a little bit blunt.

00:15:31.000 If you're living by a spirit of fear, then resign as a pastor because God has not given us a spirit of fear.

00:15:38.000 Instead, that of courage and a sound mind.

00:15:41.000 And finally, though, the third type of church is the one where I kind of take the gloves off a little bit.

00:15:47.000 Cowardly churches, okay, these are the complicit churches.

00:15:51.000 The totally different category, okay?

00:15:53.000 These are the churches that aren't courageous.

00:15:56.000 They're not neutral, but they're the ones actively teaching their congregation bad theology, backwards cultural truths.

00:16:04.000 I'm talking about the churches that have the LGBT flag outside of their church.

00:16:10.000 I'm talking about the churches that say, well, Jesus was a socialist.

00:16:14.000 I'm talking about the churches that are advocating for open borders.

00:16:17.000 You know what I'm talking about here.

00:16:19.000 And for those churches, it's an open invite.

00:16:21.000 Those pastors can talk to me at any time.

00:16:23.000 We can have a dialogue.

00:16:24.000 They don't ever take me up on that offer, exactly what Bible they're referencing or what they're looking at.

00:16:30.000 But those are the churches that unfortunately I see are growing in certain parts of the world.

00:16:34.000 I don't know if that's the case here or not.

00:16:35.000 I would guess more are cowardly in this community than courageous or complicit.

00:16:40.000 I could be wrong.

00:16:40.000 Would we even call them churches?

00:16:41.000 Because I think the Holy Spirit's left the building, right?

00:16:44.000 Yeah, I mean, look, that would be for the elders to judge and people that go there, not my job, right?

00:16:49.000 I'm sure there's still some good work going on in a lot of those churches.

00:16:52.000 But when I start to see mega churches that start to say, look, there's really nothing wrong with a 13-year-old changing their sex.

00:16:59.000 Like, I say, you know what?

00:17:00.000 No way.

00:17:01.000 Like, I'm not going to act like that's okay.

00:17:04.000 In fact, I'm not going to act as if that's tolerance.

00:17:06.000 In fact, it's child abuse and we shouldn't put up with it, is what it is.

00:17:15.000 So, a couple of things I want to touch on was, you know, you've been vocal of saying the church failed miserably during COVID-19, especially with the shutdowns and everything else.

00:17:27.000 I mean, we'll send people to the Congo, we'll send people to the Sudan, but then we get terrified over a cold.

00:17:32.000 I mean, this is kind of an interesting with a 99.8% survival rate.

00:17:38.000 You know, I mean, so how do we encourage churches to be to the, you know, get out there and say, you know what, this was a mistake.

00:17:47.000 This was, you know, maybe I shouldn't have done what I did.

00:17:50.000 I mean, how do we address that?

00:17:53.000 Yeah, look, I mean, COVID is very real for a specific part of the population, and we know that.

00:17:58.000 And the only one of the great injustices ever in my life that I saw was the fact that it's psychological warfare, isn't it?

00:18:05.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:18:06.000 Totally.

00:18:07.000 Yeah, one of the great injustices that I ever lived through was the fact that treatments, early treatments, and the conversation thereof was completely and totally suppressed of ivermectin, a hydroxychloroquine, an azithromycin, vitamin D, aspirin, all the things that very well could have empowered people.

00:18:24.000 The fact we weren't even allowed to talk about it, have like an open conversation about it was really, it was a tactic to the enemy.

00:18:32.000 It was rooted in deceit.

00:18:33.000 And then the remdesivir on top of it, giving it to the patients in the world.

00:18:37.000 Yeah, which I know, I mean, I know personally a lot of people that were totally harmed by remdesivir and then the suppression of monoclonal antibodies and the distribution thereof.

00:18:45.000 You just look at one of those, vitamin D levels, peer-reviewed studies, dozens of them.

00:18:49.000 Vitamin D level over 50, you have a much higher chance of surviving COVID, much higher chance than a vitamin D level under 50.

00:18:49.000 You can look at them.

00:18:56.000 I didn't see one CDC ad.

00:18:57.000 I didn't see one NIH ad about how people should be taking regular vitamin D supplements, getting themselves tested regularly to get their vitamin D level over 50.

00:19:06.000 We could have had a nationwide campaign that I would have helped the CDC continue to spread about, hey, if you don't know your vitamin D level, it's like not knowing your credit score.

00:19:15.000 It would have been a very easy campaign.

00:19:17.000 No, seriously, it would have been a bridge time.

00:19:19.000 It would have been a unity.

00:19:20.000 And people would say, hey, my vitamin D level 70.

00:19:22.000 It's a direct correlation.

00:19:24.000 You're in a much better place.

00:19:24.000 You're over 50.

00:19:26.000 And that's without all the other treatments, right?

00:19:28.000 That's without, you know, intravenous intervention, ozone, you know, vitamin C supplements, all these sorts of things that we just know are good for waste.

00:19:36.000 Just vitamin D alone.

00:19:38.000 And there's a lot of reason for this.

00:19:39.000 When the cytokosine storm begins to form, vitamin D is the interrupter.

00:19:43.000 If you have high vitamin D level, higher chance to be able to survive that.

00:19:46.000 Never heard anything about that, which as soon as that, as soon as the study started to come out on that, I was like, whoa, there's a lot of people that lived in an unnecessary position in a state of fear around just that singular thing.

00:19:57.000 You get vitamin D right now from Walgreens or CBS.

00:20:00.000 There's no gatekeeper to be able to get to vitamin D.

00:20:03.000 And I encourage all of you to look at those studies.

00:20:05.000 It's pretty amazing, kind of the significance of that.

00:20:08.000 So, look, the church failed miserably, not just on that particular issue, but it failed kind of more generally on basically agreeing with the consensus from the state that they're not essential.

00:20:20.000 Now, kind of coming from the political world and from the government world, I didn't understand this, right?

00:20:25.000 So, I was really let down and I was wrong.

00:20:30.000 I made a prediction.

00:20:31.000 I said, okay, churches and Christians are not going to put up with this.

00:20:34.000 There's no way they're going to allow themselves to be closed for Easter and Pentecost Sunday.

00:20:38.000 They're not going to be closed for the summer that follows.

00:20:40.000 Definitely not for Christmas.

00:20:42.000 There's no way that churches are going to put up with this.

00:20:44.000 But unfortunately, and praise God, some people were really benefited by it, but generally, I'd make an argument that the kind of, I'm going to phone it in and Zoom church actually was kind of like a multi-month vacation for a lot of pastors who continue to get tithes and offerings without ever actually having to do the work of being a pastor.

00:21:03.000 Now, praise God, some people were able to watch church from home.

00:21:07.000 I think that's a great thing for some people.

00:21:09.000 But watching church from home is like a fireplace on a television, right?

00:21:13.000 You can see it, but there's no warmth.

00:21:15.000 It says very clearly in the Bible that we should not forsake the gathering of believers.

00:21:23.000 And because being around people is something where the spirit moves, and also you can find healing and compassion.

00:21:29.000 You know, you're not alone.

00:21:31.000 You can get individual counseling if so needed.

00:21:33.000 The church is essential.

00:21:34.000 So, when the church was afraid to say that, and then the other thing that was so bizarre is the lack of nuance from these mega church pastors where they were like, We have people in our community that are going to die if they come to church.

00:21:47.000 Like, okay, let me accept that premise.

00:21:49.000 I think it's a little dramatic, but let me accept the premise.

00:21:51.000 Then, why don't you just open up the church for the young people that are committing suicide at record rates and their schools are closed and they're taking drugs and getting drunk and they're overweight, then just open up the church for all the 20-somethings in your community.

00:22:04.000 And I never got a good answer as to why they didn't do that.

00:22:07.000 And I think Romans 13, they would say, Yeah, and we kind of went through Romans 13 and the poor constitutional biblical interpretation of that.

00:22:15.000 We believe in the inerrancy of scripture, we believe in the supremacy of scripture, and we believe Romans 13 tells us in a constitutional context that we, the people, are in charge and our leaders are subservient to us.

00:22:25.000 But that was never, I think, communicated on a broader scale to most pastors.

00:22:29.000 But it did come down to something that you pinpointed, which is a spirit of fear, right?

00:22:33.000 It's a spirit of fear because a lot of pastors got into this focusing on the three B's of American Christianity: bigger buildings, more baptisms, and bigger budgets.

00:22:42.000 I like those things, especially baptisms.

00:22:44.000 I love when people give their life to a church.

00:22:45.000 What's wrong with a bigger budget?

00:22:47.000 No, there's nothing wrong with it, right?

00:22:49.000 But I think we would all agree that most churches have prioritized the American Christian business model over taking stands for truth and pushing back against tyranny wherever it rears its head.

00:22:59.000 Is that if they were forced to choose, most churches would say, I'm going to prioritize the business model of trying to be like the skinny gene kind of pastor, TED Talk with a rock concert.

00:23:12.000 They're not that skinny, don't worry.

00:23:15.000 I only use that with certain pastors.

00:23:17.000 You're right on the edge, by the way.

00:23:18.000 It's very close.

00:23:21.000 It's very close.

00:23:22.000 It's okay.

00:23:23.000 You're not wearing new tennis shoes, so you're in the clear.

00:23:26.000 So, and it's kind of this backwards incentive model, right?

00:23:32.000 And I really wish the best for a lot of these pastors.

00:23:35.000 I want to encourage them to be better.

00:23:37.000 But a lot of pastors never, and let's be honest, they never really had to make those tough formational decisions that were necessary when they came in COVID.

00:23:48.000 And all of a sudden, the weight of the world was on them.

00:23:50.000 And they did what was easy, not what was right.

00:23:55.000 And that's a learning moment, isn't it?

00:23:57.000 And 95% of churches across the country were happy to parrot the talking points with no questioning of Anthony Fauci.

00:24:05.000 happy to parrot the talking points of their local government officials, happy to unfortunately openly participate in the mental health crisis and the spiritual crisis that was looming across the country.

00:24:17.000 We lost more young people across America by far to suicide than to the Chinese Fauci coronavirus.

00:24:26.000 And one of the reasons why I believe is that when you shut down the church and you turn the church into a YouTube channel and you act as if there's nothing into community, there's nothing into the individual connection, then you have just made the enemy's argument for him.

00:24:43.000 And unfortunately, their church did so willingly.

00:24:46.000 And I know you know this, but Romans 13 was used heavily in Nazi Germany.

00:24:52.000 And, you know, I know you're aware of this, but Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Neumoller, they actually opposed Hitler and they were almost blown up and one of them was hung.

00:25:03.000 And literally, Nehemohler said, the worst thing that happened to me, worse than them beating me up and rummaging through my house and putting a bomb in my house and blowing my house halfway up, the worst thing was the pastors, 2,000 pastors, straight, you know, just cutting them off.

00:25:23.000 And the mantra back then, during Nazi Germany, was safety first and appeasement.

00:25:30.000 And they really thought that they could negotiate with a tyrant.

00:25:35.000 And they lost hardcore.

00:25:37.000 They lost hardcore.

00:25:39.000 So, I mean, what do you think about that as far as how do we better educate our brothers in the Lord so that we don't end up, because it happened quickly in Nazi Germany.

00:25:50.000 All of a sudden, there's only two men standing against Hitler.

00:25:53.000 Only two.

00:25:55.000 And I pray for faith and the courage to be one of those guys that are the last two standing against tyranny.

00:26:01.000 Yeah, look, and it's not just that example, right?

00:26:04.000 I mean, it's Russia with the Soviet Union that was totally taken over by tyrannical forces.

00:26:09.000 Look, we really water down our history, especially for our young people, something we're trying to fix at Turning Point USA, where I visit college campuses so you don't have to.

00:26:17.000 See you Boulder on April 12th, by the way.

00:26:20.000 You guys should all come.

00:26:21.000 We're going to have a great time at Colorado University Boulder on April 12th.

00:26:24.000 It's going to be really great.

00:26:25.000 Yeah, it's going to be great.

00:26:26.000 So a lot of fun.

00:26:29.000 You're all welcome.

00:26:32.000 Make sure you could defend yourself.

00:26:34.000 There'll be something.

00:26:35.000 Antifa is going to have something to say about that.

00:26:37.000 Your concealed carry doesn't work in Boulder.

00:26:39.000 Did you know that?

00:26:40.000 Yeah, well, I can bring my dog.

00:26:42.000 So love to have Antifa meet my Dutch Shepherd.

00:26:46.000 They don't like dogs.

00:26:48.000 I love dogs, actually.

00:26:48.000 They don't.

00:26:50.000 So a different conversation for a different time.

00:26:52.000 Yeah, dogs you can bring anywhere.

00:26:54.000 It's great.

00:26:56.000 So yeah, look, tyranny, it's an important topic, right?

00:27:00.000 I mean, so let's go to the story of Exodus.

00:27:02.000 What's the story of Exodus?

00:27:03.000 It's God's chosen people living under a tyrant.

00:27:05.000 He wants to set those people free.

00:27:07.000 It's a common theme that for many reasons, you have a small group of people wanting to control a large group of people.

00:27:14.000 That's the story of history.

00:27:15.000 And when you're able to break free of that, you should take pause and be like, why is it that now the many actually control the few?

00:27:22.000 It's really rare.

00:27:23.000 Usually the few control the many.

00:27:26.000 So whenever the many control the few, that's special.

00:27:28.000 Stop, write it down, study that.

00:27:31.000 That's less than 1%.

00:27:33.000 Most of human history is a small group of people dominating a lot of people.

00:27:37.000 So the founders are like, wait a second.

00:27:39.000 So we want this to happen in America, but if it's a straight democracy, then that's a problem because people are going to vote for themselves stuff all the time.

00:27:46.000 So they had democratic type traditions and institutions within a constitutional republic.

00:27:50.000 We could talk about that if you want.

00:27:52.000 But to your specific question about tyranny, it's attractive.

00:27:56.000 People actually are tempted to believe in tyranny.

00:27:59.000 I know this is something that's unpopular to say, but biblically, it's totally true.

00:28:04.000 Most people, not you, most people do not want to be free.

00:28:09.000 And I learned this in COVID.

00:28:11.000 It's not to be free.

00:28:12.000 It's hard to be free.

00:28:12.000 I'm sorry.

00:28:13.000 Of course, it's very hard.

00:28:14.000 It requires response.

00:28:15.000 I'll prove it to you biblically.

00:28:17.000 It takes responsibility.

00:28:18.000 That's exactly right.

00:28:19.000 That means when something goes wrong, you have very few people to blame.

00:28:23.000 In fact, the man in the mirror is the person that actually is usually to blame when things go wrong.

00:28:28.000 That takes a lot of honesty, and people usually don't like being honest with themselves.

00:28:32.000 So let's look at the Bible, right?

00:28:34.000 So God delivers God's chosen people out of Egypt.

00:28:37.000 10 acts of God and parting the Red Sea.

00:28:40.000 Moses brings him out of it, and they're in the wilderness.

00:28:43.000 The people of God needed and wanted for nothing.

00:28:46.000 Blew quail off course, manna from heaven.

00:28:48.000 They were having a great time until they weren't.

00:28:51.000 When all of a sudden, the natural kind of behavioral pattern of who we are originally, our original sin, came in.

00:28:57.000 Where, and you could read it, it's a quote, they say, hey, who is this Moses guy anyway?

00:29:04.000 Why don't you know what?

00:29:05.000 We want to go back to Egypt because at least there we were able to eat meat.

00:29:12.000 It's true.

00:29:12.000 You can look it up.

00:29:13.000 Basically, what they are saying is we preferred slavery with good food.

00:29:20.000 Right?

00:29:22.000 Because freedom in the wilderness with manna and quail, it's not exactly filling my flesh the way I want it to.

00:29:31.000 I have to think for myself in the wilderness.

00:29:33.000 I have to make my own decisions.

00:29:35.000 I have to be self-government.

00:29:38.000 Whereas, like in Egypt, I woke up every single day, had meat, do the bricks, go home, whatever.

00:29:43.000 It's easy.

00:29:44.000 Did what I was supposed to do.

00:29:47.000 In fact, it takes courage to want to be free.

00:29:52.000 Most countries in the world are not free.

00:29:55.000 They might be like soft freedom, as we would call it, but that window will close.

00:29:58.000 We know that.

00:29:59.000 Most European countries are less free every single day.

00:30:02.000 Canada is an unfree country.

00:30:03.000 Our country is becoming less free.

00:30:05.000 And here's the maxim: we don't teach young people this, which is if you want liberty, you're going to have to want to take responsibility for your actions.

00:30:12.000 We teach all the licentiousness, all the license, and none of the responsibility.

00:30:17.000 That's basically what college has become, by the way, right?

00:30:20.000 Do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.

00:30:22.000 And if anything goes wrong, blame the employer, blame racism, blame colonialism, blame whomever's in charge.

00:30:29.000 So, look, to your specific point about how happy, how quickly it can happen, I should say, is it goes to this quote that the great Ernest Hemingway said, which is, look, things happen gradually than suddenly.

00:30:41.000 A great quote.

00:30:42.000 He had a way with words, didn't he?

00:30:43.000 Gradually then suddenly.

00:30:45.000 And that's exactly what we're living through.

00:30:47.000 How many of you feel as if you're living in a completely different country than you were three years ago?

00:30:50.000 I do.

00:30:51.000 Like, totally different.

00:30:53.000 Where I haven't nominated a Supreme Court who says she doesn't know what a woman is?

00:30:56.000 Like, I mean, it's, it's, you scratch your head.

00:31:00.000 But I mean, I could go, I could go one after the other, right?

00:31:00.000 Yeah.

00:31:00.000 Can you say that?

00:31:03.000 And as if we're supposed to tolerate this as if it's normal.

00:31:06.000 It happens gradually than suddenly.

00:31:07.000 The only thing that can stop the kind of cancer of chaos, as I put it, because it is a cancer and it's spreading quickly, is you.

00:31:14.000 You are the antidote.

00:31:15.000 It's spirit-filled believers fighting for liberty and order in a land of chaos and confusion.

00:31:20.000 Yeah, and I think, yeah, I mean, The church, I mean, the churches are finally starting to stand up in El Paso County, and we're seeing some really good results.

00:31:34.000 We're done with people, you know, calling themselves conservatives and they're, you know, well, I can't say that word.

00:31:40.000 Everybody gets mad when I say it, but they're not really conservatives.

00:31:44.000 But, you know, I think there's a hill for us to die on as Christians.

00:31:47.000 You know, yes, yes, I'm against gun control.

00:31:49.000 Yes, I'm against sanctuary cities.

00:31:51.000 Yes, I'm against open borders.

00:31:53.000 But there's three that I like stand on that I will fight to the death for.

00:31:56.000 And that is the unborn.

00:31:58.000 And you know about our ungodless, crazy abortion bill that just got through.

00:32:02.000 CRT intersectionality.

00:32:04.000 There's how many races are there in the world?

00:32:06.000 There's one race, it's called the human race.

00:32:11.000 There's the, you know, the LBGTQ, XYZ, G-L, whatever it may be, gender fluidity, sexual identity stuff.

00:32:20.000 I mean, when you have on the cover of Newsweek a man that's woman of the year, something is definitely wrong.

00:32:25.000 USA Today.

00:32:26.000 Yeah, USA, it was USA Today.

00:32:28.000 Sorry.

00:32:29.000 Yeah, I get all those.

00:32:31.000 They're all the same.

00:32:31.000 Yeah.

00:32:32.000 But I mean, so you said something once that I really made me curious about.

00:32:38.000 I kind of wanted you to unpack it for us.

00:32:40.000 Those three inflection points.

00:32:43.000 Can you unpack that for me?

00:32:44.000 Yeah, so I mean, I'll kind of just add one to that.

00:32:48.000 And that was the first, we kind of went through this, which is the church is essential, and we lost that, right?

00:32:52.000 We didn't.

00:32:53.000 So things need to be organized in a hierarchy.

00:32:55.000 We all know that.

00:32:55.000 Some things matter than others.

00:32:57.000 Understanding a hierarchy is a Christian belief, right?

00:33:00.000 We believe that our salvation in Jesus Christ is the most important thing for us personally and for human beings in general, right?

00:33:06.000 That's more important than mowing the lawn or if your sports team wins.

00:33:10.000 It's the most important thing.

00:33:11.000 In fact, we would, you know, eat less meals, right, and be poor if we could have our salvation in Jesus Christ.

00:33:17.000 That's the most important thing, right?

00:33:18.000 So valuing some things more than others is really important, right?

00:33:22.000 It's the hierarchy of needs and wants and concerns.

00:33:24.000 And by the way, that's the way you should educate your children.

00:33:27.000 The way our government teaches us in our schools is the opposite in our media, which is, well, who's to say that one thing matters more than the other?

00:33:33.000 It's very relativistic, very egalitarian.

00:33:36.000 You know, we could have a spirited debate of whether or not mowing the lawn or the sports team is more important.

00:33:40.000 When you're dealing with ultimate purpose, your salvation, your soul, your spirit, your eternity, whether you're going to heaven or damnation, it's not even worthy of an extended conversation in that regard.

00:33:50.000 So the first is the church being non-essential.

00:33:53.000 Most churches really didn't contest on that.

00:33:53.000 We lost that.

00:33:55.000 And the second is you touched on it.

00:33:57.000 And I'll be very honest.

00:33:58.000 I hate talking about race.

00:33:59.000 It doesn't motivate me, and it should motivate you.

00:34:02.000 I believe we're all made in the image of God.

00:34:04.000 I couldn't care less what your skin color is at all.

00:34:07.000 In fact, I think that this entire conversation is so destructive.

00:34:11.000 It's so divisive.

00:34:13.000 And it's so anti-biblical.

00:34:15.000 Neither slave nor Greek nor Jew.

00:34:17.000 We are all one in Christ Jesus.

00:34:21.000 It's a message that it's about what you can't see that is actually a lot more important than what you can see.

00:34:28.000 That's always been what we were raised as Christians, right?

00:34:30.000 It's the invisible that matters a lot more than the visible.

00:34:34.000 Meaning, you don't know as someone, as soon as someone walks in the room who they are until you get to know them.

00:34:38.000 And that takes work.

00:34:40.000 That takes patience.

00:34:42.000 That's a mature Christian.

00:34:44.000 Instead, we're like, you know what?

00:34:45.000 I'll be able to have you all figured out just based on the melanin content and your chromosomes.

00:34:50.000 And even that we don't even do anymore, right?

00:34:52.000 Where it's like those can we just threw that out the window.

00:34:54.000 So now it's like all race all the time, right?

00:34:57.000 It's like your melanin content is now your value.

00:35:00.000 And I think it's so destructive and so disgusting.

00:35:02.000 And the church was largely silent, if not complicit on that.

00:35:06.000 They were complicit by kind of playing into this kind of soft narrative, some of them, by saying, you know, yeah, maybe America's a little racist.

00:35:13.000 I mean, just this is so garbage.

00:35:15.000 We're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:35:18.000 We're the only functioning country with the multiracial, multilingual blend of people we have.

00:35:24.000 Have you been to Brazil?

00:35:26.000 Like, if you go to another country with the kind of diversity we have, the divisions are unbelievable.

00:35:32.000 The fact we've been able to do what we've done in America with people from every part of the world, every language, is incredible.

00:35:39.000 It's unbelievable, actually.

00:35:40.000 And they want to destroy that.

00:35:42.000 And it's because of the Christian ethic of looking at actually just focusing on things you can't see instead of things you can't see.

00:35:49.000 And put differently, is we as Christians have always had a preference on things you can change, not things you can't change.

00:35:55.000 We always care more about the things you can change.

00:35:58.000 Like, hey, are you going to give your life to Jesus?

00:36:00.000 Yeah, I don't care if you were born in a bad family, that's bad.

00:36:03.000 But are you going to give your life to Jesus?

00:36:05.000 One thing you could change, one thing you can't change.

00:36:07.000 I know you have an abusive father, but do you want to get in a relationship with your heavenly father?

00:36:10.000 We've always cared about the things you can change.

00:36:12.000 We've always cared about the commitment you can make.

00:36:15.000 That's what being a Christian is all about.

00:36:17.000 And instead, we're like, you know what?

00:36:19.000 Actually, we want to prioritize the things you can't change.

00:36:22.000 How depressing, literally.

00:36:24.000 No, it is.

00:36:26.000 We're going to hyper-focus on the things you can't change.

00:36:28.000 That's the opposite of empowerment, by the way.

00:36:31.000 And someone's like, okay, I guess I can't change that.

00:36:33.000 Now what?

00:36:34.000 On the ninth seminar on white fragility, whatever that is, or white privilege, it's like super exhausting and really demoralizing.

00:36:41.000 And so then the third thing that you touched on is the gender stuff.

00:36:46.000 And the gender stuff and the pro-life stuff are separate, but you can kind of put them in the same bucket, which are just kind of like non-negotiables for the church, honestly.

00:36:54.000 And look, the gender stuff is so simple.

00:36:57.000 It's so easy.

00:36:58.000 And I've been outspoken about this for years, unapologetically, just because I just don't care, honestly.

00:37:05.000 But what's so interesting is like the men-woman thing, it's a 95-97% issue.

00:37:12.000 Most people believe that there are men and women.

00:37:12.000 It really is.

00:37:14.000 They do.

00:37:15.000 I know that's a radical thing, right?

00:37:17.000 They believe men can't become pregnant, even though Apple believes they can.

00:37:21.000 But here's the thing: 97% of people agree with I just said, but 99% of people are afraid to comment on it.

00:37:28.000 It's the most interesting thing.

00:37:30.000 Not even life.

00:37:31.000 More people are empowered to speak out on the pro-life issue.

00:37:34.000 Praise God, by the way, because that wasn't the case 10 years ago.

00:37:37.000 We have bolder, more, more convicted pro-life activists than I've ever seen.

00:37:43.000 People are more comfortable really getting into that topic.

00:37:46.000 But it's like the gender stuff.

00:37:47.000 It's like, whoa.

00:37:48.000 It's like, I don't want to get canceled.

00:37:49.000 Like, the alphabet mafia is going to come after me or whatever, right?

00:37:53.000 And it's like, I can't possibly get into that.

00:37:57.000 And it's like, look, we should never steal that.

00:37:59.000 Thank you.

00:38:00.000 Alphabet Mafia.

00:38:01.000 Like it.

00:38:02.000 It's not mine.

00:38:03.000 I heard it somewhere.

00:38:04.000 But I've used it a lot.

00:38:07.000 Look, here's the thing.

00:38:08.000 We should have grace for all people.

00:38:09.000 We should have love for all people, right?

00:38:11.000 We should have compassion for all people.

00:38:13.000 I wish I want everyone to have Jesus Christ, which I believe will transform them.

00:38:18.000 But if all of a sudden you're going to tell me that I got to put up with whatever gender you're telling, and I can obviously see that's not you.

00:38:23.000 Like, for example, I'm banned from Twitter, whatever, on this entire thing.

00:38:27.000 And I got banned from Twitter by saying that the woman of the year, who's now, who was a man for 54 years and had children, like as a, he didn't have children, but he was a father of children for 54 years, previously named Richard, now named Rachel.

00:38:47.000 You're not allowed to dead name somebody.

00:38:50.000 Deadnaming is a new phenomenon where if you use the name, even reference that that name used to exist, you are harassing and bullying.

00:38:58.000 So then I lost my Twitter account over that.

00:39:00.000 Whatever.

00:39:01.000 Great.

00:39:02.000 Big loss to society, right?

00:39:04.000 Yeah.

00:39:04.000 Everyone, delete Twitter, stop using it.

00:39:07.000 Terrible platform.

00:39:08.000 It's terrible.

00:39:09.000 Use Getter or Parlor or Truth Social.

00:39:10.000 Any one of them are better than that.

00:39:12.000 Rumble is great.

00:39:13.000 But like, yeah, I mean, I could get into that more if you want in a second, but like the church silent on that issue, really?

00:39:20.000 I mean, like Genesis 1, everybody, like, it's not that we don't have to overcomplicate this, but it really goes to the power that they have, the intimidation factor.

00:39:30.000 Yeah, the small squeaky wheel, squeaky wheel gets the grease, right?

00:39:34.000 Well, yeah, and they're willing to like fire people from their job.

00:39:37.000 Like, they're willing to see this all the way through, right?

00:39:40.000 Like, we disagree and we say, have a nice day.

00:39:43.000 Like, they're like, yeah, I'm going to call your HR department and demand your pension gets pulled.

00:39:48.000 I'm going to demand you get publicly harassed.

00:39:50.000 And it's a real fear that people have, and I get it.

00:39:54.000 I would encourage you to get to a place in your life where you have the freedom to speak out regardless of what they could take away from you.

00:40:00.000 That's true freedom.

00:40:01.000 I'm not saying it's easy, by the way.

00:40:02.000 I'm not.

00:40:03.000 I know a lot of people that are living in the state where they're being really terrorized.

00:40:09.000 They're living in a state of tyranny.

00:40:10.000 And I'm never a person where like, you should do this.

00:40:12.000 I actually, I don't say that.

00:40:13.000 You got to provide for your family.

00:40:14.000 That's way more important.

00:40:15.000 I agree with that.

00:40:16.000 But you also need to have mental and spiritual freedom in your life at some point, right?

00:40:20.000 I encourage you to get to that place to find an employer, to find a job where you're able to speak freely and you don't have to say things you don't believe.

00:40:27.000 And so you have to weigh that as the provider.

00:40:30.000 I think it's unfair when some people say, how dare you not want to just lose your job?

00:40:30.000 I get that.

00:40:34.000 Like, yeah, you know what?

00:40:35.000 Actually, things cost like twice as much as they did two years ago.

00:40:38.000 And like, it costs like $900 to drive from Denver to Colorado Springs now, basically, right?

00:40:44.000 So I get it.

00:40:45.000 I get the kind of, I'm going to keep my mouth shut because I have to keep on providing for my family.

00:40:50.000 But I do want to say you will be a happier person and you will be a freer person the sooner you try to break free from that.

00:40:56.000 But look, they're willing to like go totally scorched earth and destroy your life.

00:41:01.000 And it's unfortunately very effective.

00:41:04.000 But you said something earlier.

00:41:05.000 You said, you know, God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but love, power, and a sound mind.

00:41:08.000 But also the fear of man is a snare.

00:41:11.000 I mean, we have to believe that God is going to take care of his people.

00:41:15.000 And so I think as a Christian, we should stand up for what God has called us to do.

00:41:20.000 We're not political.

00:41:21.000 We stand up for righteousness, right?

00:41:22.000 It's a spiritual battle.

00:41:25.000 You know, man invented politics.

00:41:28.000 God invented government.

00:41:30.000 That's the reality of it.

00:41:31.000 So speaking in that, you know, we're losing more and more of our freedoms.

00:41:35.000 Freedom requires constant guarding, constant.

00:41:40.000 We have to guard.

00:41:41.000 We have to fight against it.

00:41:42.000 I'm worried about my eight kids.

00:41:43.000 You know, what's going to happen with my eight kids?

00:41:46.000 And one of the things that I'm really seeing happen right before my eyes, and this is the big subject for everybody right now, but is globalism.

00:41:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:41:54.000 I mean, we're losing more and more of our civil liberties.

00:41:58.000 The authoritarianism is coming in with such a rampant force, the Great Reset, all that kind of stuff.

00:42:05.000 Can you speak into that?

00:42:06.000 I know that you and Jack covered it great, but I think these people need to hear it.

00:42:11.000 I did an extensive conversation with Jack Hibbs on this topic.

00:42:15.000 I encourage you guys.

00:42:17.000 I don't like to do the, well, you got to go, you know, if you guys listen to that podcast, the Charlie Kirk show, it's the Great Reset, we've received more feedback from that hour and a half.

00:42:26.000 It's been seen millions of times on YouTube, Facebook, podcasting combined.

00:42:30.000 We really did a lot of research, study, and prayer going into that.

00:42:33.000 Jack and I did.

00:42:34.000 But I'll touch on a little bit of it.

00:42:35.000 I think it's really important.

00:42:37.000 Look, if your pastor isn't talking about the Great Reset, at least on a semi-regular basis, then they're not doing their job.

00:42:44.000 And so The Great Reset was a book literally written, by the way.

00:42:48.000 You can get the book.

00:42:49.000 You can read it yourself.

00:42:50.000 It's by Klaus Schwab.

00:42:51.000 And so basically, there were eight predictions made for the Great Reset.

00:42:55.000 Then they kind of changed them as soon as they were discovered.

00:42:57.000 They're like, oh, no, just kidding.

00:42:58.000 Here are the eight new ones.

00:43:00.000 The eight new ones are still bad, but the eight original ones, I'll try to remember them the best I can.

00:43:04.000 The United States will no longer be the world's superpower.

00:43:06.000 You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

00:43:09.000 People really won't eat meat anymore.

00:43:11.000 Energy, as we know it, fossil fuels will be completely abolished.

00:43:14.000 Western values will have reached their breaking point.

00:43:17.000 The world will have a billion new refugees.

00:43:19.000 We're going to be preparing to go to Mars.

00:43:21.000 And there's one more I can't remember.

00:43:22.000 So, seven out of eight, not bad for memory, right?

00:43:24.000 So, um, but there's one more, and we'll think of it.

00:43:26.000 Um, and so basically, they're kind of weird, bizarre, all over the place predictions.

00:43:31.000 But the broader point, and I think we got to just focus on the word reset, right?

00:43:36.000 So, we're kind of living through this time where it's chaos, and I believe firmly the chaos is by design, right?

00:43:42.000 This is not exactly a moment that we're living through that is accidental.

00:43:46.000 And so, you think if someone wants to reset something, right?

00:43:49.000 Well, then, first you have to break it.

00:43:51.000 And what's what really has kind of flummoed or really confused the world elites is they did not realize how resilient America and the American people were.

00:44:05.000 They didn't, they underestimated that, they did.

00:44:08.000 And so, they underestimated your entrepreneurial resolve, they underestimated your work ethic, they underestimated your values, they underestimated your perseverance, they underestimated all of it.

00:44:20.000 And so, the masters of the universe, first, let's talk about what they want: they want a borderless society, they want a one-world government.

00:44:26.000 It's not conjecture, it's not conspiracy theory, it's in the book, okay?

00:44:30.000 They believe the world will be better when sovereignty is eroded, when people can move freely from country to country, that you have a global citizenship, not a national citizenship.

00:44:39.000 They believe nationalism is the root of war, and poverty, and hunger, and strife.

00:44:43.000 Now, this is an anti-biblical view, right?

00:44:45.000 We believe human beings are the root of all those things, and our nature, not in connection with Christ and the biblical teachings, is that they believe external circumstances are to blame and that human beings are generally good.

00:44:57.000 This is one of the things why the church needs to speak out about this.

00:45:00.000 So, a global project that they're trying to get us to really needs to come straight through America, right?

00:45:06.000 Most of Europe has basically already been globalized, with you know, the exception of a couple of countries, Hungary being one of them.

00:45:12.000 They basically have become just a continent of one.

00:45:14.000 Um, they're trying to do this all across the world, but America really is the stumbling block, right?

00:45:19.000 America's 5% of the world's population gets 25% of the GDP, 5% of the world's population get 20% of the energy consumption, 5% of the world's population get 40% of the energy of energy production and exporting.

00:45:31.000 It's a lot, right?

00:45:31.000 I mean, this is a super, it's a super beast, not to mention the cultural influence, the economic influence.

00:45:37.000 And we all know this: that America, because of our traditions and our people and our history, that we stand up to tyranny both domestically and abroad.

00:45:45.000 And that really is kind of a threat to kind of the whole great reset crowd.

00:45:48.000 So, they got to break it.

00:45:49.000 They got to break our will, break our resolve.

00:45:51.000 And let's just talk about something technically.

00:45:53.000 They got to break our currency, right?

00:45:55.000 That's the first thing they got to do.

00:45:56.000 And that's exactly what they're doing.

00:45:58.000 And this doesn't take like some sort of bond villain conspiracy theory.

00:46:02.000 I mean, have you seen how many dollars we've created in the last two years?

00:46:06.000 Somewhere between 50 to 60 percent of all dollars ever created have been injected into the economy in the last two years.

00:46:12.000 Inflation is you getting poor every single day, okay?

00:46:15.000 And no, the people gets rich with inflation, Bill Gates gets richer, Jeff Bezos gets richer.

00:46:20.000 They can move their assets quickly, they can buy land, they can buy things that go up with inflation.

00:46:24.000 You get poor, you get poor when you go to the gas pump, you get bored when you poor when you try to buy property, you get poorer when you go to the grocery store.

00:46:30.000 And what really shocks Americans is the only two currencies that have not reset in the last 100 years is the US dollar and sterling, the pound.

00:46:38.000 Every other currency from the Russian ruble to the you know, to the German mark or the franc mark, I can't remember, um, has reset in the last hundred years.

00:46:47.000 Resetting currencies happens all the time in the third world.

00:46:49.000 Now, people lose like 80% of their wealth when it happens, but this is something that Americans really aren't used to.

00:46:55.000 And you look at a curve of the value of the US dollar, it's gone down dramatically.

00:46:59.000 They need to do it because America is a stumbling block.

00:47:02.000 Now, what do they want to actually replace America with?

00:47:05.000 They want to replace America with the Davos agenda, which is where the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab and all these people meet, which is they want the world to be controlled by a technocracy.

00:47:15.000 They want more people in charge, like Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau, and they want to have secular, technocratic, type values reign supreme.

00:47:24.000 Put simply it's going to come at direct odds with the Christian worldview and your ability to homeschool and raise your children.

00:47:32.000 Some of these people are part of the depopulation movement, by the way.

00:47:35.000 Some of these people have outwardly signed letters and have been part of the fact that the world has too many people.

00:47:41.000 We have to try to depopulate.

00:47:42.000 In fact, you should try to stop having children, which is actually the eighth part.

00:47:46.000 Now you remember the eighth one, which is all about climate change, right?

00:47:48.000 Which is that climate change is a terrible thing.

00:47:50.000 People are going to be displaced by it.

00:47:52.000 So, what does this mean for all of you?

00:47:54.000 Well, this is the lens that you have to use by how you look at the news.

00:47:59.000 When things seem otherwise very confusing, all of a sudden you're like, oh, they're trying to get us there.

00:48:05.000 They're trying to use the tension.

00:48:08.000 They're trying to use the breaking.

00:48:10.000 They're trying to use the shattering of your home, your country, your civilization as a means to the end to try to get us to a globalist experiment.

00:48:19.000 And this is something that they talk about openly.

00:48:22.000 They forget about the Second Amendment.

00:48:25.000 Yeah, I mean, they forget about that.

00:48:26.000 And I mean, that's one part of it, right?

00:48:28.000 Is this going to happen before or after all you run out of ammo?

00:48:31.000 Well, like, you know, they think they could do it without ever a shot being fired, right?

00:48:36.000 So you're not wrong.

00:48:38.000 Like, the Second Amendment is the amendment that protects all the other amendments.

00:48:40.000 It's not for hunting.

00:48:41.000 It's not for self-defense.

00:48:42.000 I love all those things, but it's the pretend.

00:48:44.000 It's the pretend.

00:48:45.000 It's the protect of free people against a usurptatious government.

00:48:48.000 We know that.

00:48:49.000 That's why it was written.

00:48:50.000 The founding fathers put it in there explicitly for that.

00:48:53.000 But they think they'll be able to do it without ever having to get to physical confrontation.

00:48:57.000 They think that by breaking your currency, by having us all subservient to your robot masters, by having your four-year-old put goggles on all day long through oculus goggles and playing more time in the metaverse in the real world, which is happening, by the way, in a lot of families, right?

00:49:13.000 Where your screen time overwhelms your real time, right?

00:49:17.000 Where we don't know the difference between men and women, where the morale of the society decreases so much.

00:49:23.000 You get the theme here on the pattern.

00:49:24.000 They think they can break us by other means, right?

00:49:27.000 Where they know how armed America is.

00:49:29.000 I'm not even saying they would try to ever invade America.

00:49:31.000 I'm not even suggesting that.

00:49:33.000 But if they were, if there was ever to be like some sort of threat there, no, they're going to try to break us spiritually, try to break our resolve, try to have us under a system where our freedoms and our liberties.

00:49:42.000 Like, I'll give you a great example.

00:49:44.000 Like, if they get their way and they put a social credit system exactly like they have in China, we're heading that way, by the way, just so you know.

00:49:51.000 We are full speed ahead going to a social credit system.

00:49:54.000 Cameras on every corner, facial expression not right.

00:49:58.000 You know, a statement against the regime, a tweet we don't like.

00:50:01.000 All the social media stuff is conditioning you, by the way, for a social credit system.

00:50:05.000 I'm not in a good place on the social credit system.

00:50:07.000 My Twitter was taken away from me.

00:50:09.000 And you could say it's Orwellian.

00:50:10.000 I'm a big fan of 1984.

00:50:12.000 It's a great book.

00:50:13.000 Every Christian Parent Should Teach 1984.

00:50:17.000 16 and older.

00:50:18.000 There's some pretty explicit sexual scenes in there.

00:50:20.000 So you got to make sure that you could even cut those out.

00:50:23.000 It's totally unnecessary.

00:50:24.000 But there's some parts of the book that are so amazing.

00:50:26.000 And there's one quote that Orwell says.

00:50:28.000 He said, The best way to keep a secret from the government is to first keep it from yourself.

00:50:35.000 I want you to think about that.

00:50:37.000 That the government will know everything about you.

00:50:39.000 That the only way to keep the secret about the government is you have to first keep it from yourself.

00:50:44.000 We are stumbling towards that very quickly.

00:50:46.000 So we can get to the solution for all that.

00:50:49.000 But I think they've widely underestimated you.

00:50:52.000 I think that these people are increasingly paranoid.

00:50:55.000 They're also very arrogant.

00:50:57.000 They're fighting amongst themselves.

00:50:58.000 But you must know the threats of the looming great reset.

00:51:02.000 It's, I think, one of the great pressures that is being pushed down on American Christianity and American sovereignty.

00:51:08.000 Two things I want to touch on.

00:51:10.000 You know, your stance on social media and how you and your wife spend time together.

00:51:16.000 But also, you did mention a solution.

00:51:18.000 I'd like to hear that solution.

00:51:19.000 I think everybody would like to hear that solution.

00:51:21.000 But yeah, again, back to your verse again.

00:51:23.000 God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but love, power, and a sound mind.

00:51:27.000 Yeah, so let's just go to the solution.

00:51:28.000 I mean, you're already doing it.

00:51:30.000 I got a lot of emails from you leading up to this.

00:51:32.000 You're showing up to school board meetings.

00:51:34.000 You're shaking the foundation of the Great Reset.

00:51:36.000 You're homeschooling your kid.

00:51:37.000 You're shaking the foundation of the Great Reset.

00:51:39.000 You feed your child meat.

00:51:41.000 You're shaking the foundation.

00:51:42.000 I'm not kidding.

00:51:43.000 I have a, no, seriously.

00:51:45.000 It's a very real thing.

00:51:46.000 I have a whole speech on meat, by the way.

00:51:49.000 I do.

00:51:50.000 It's a very raised cattle.

00:51:51.000 No.

00:51:52.000 This whole, and look, I was open-minded to it.

00:51:55.000 Like, fine, like, okay, plant-based burger here and there, whatever.

00:51:58.000 But like, I honestly, you look at the testosterone levels in American men.

00:52:02.000 They're down 80% in the last 40 years.

00:52:04.000 Go look at it.

00:52:05.000 And they're down 80%.

00:52:07.000 Your son is not the man your grandfather was, wasn't he?

00:52:10.000 And there's got to be some reasons for that, right?

00:52:14.000 And maybe it's because of meat.

00:52:16.000 Maybe it's because of something else.

00:52:17.000 I don't know.

00:52:18.000 But every study shows red meat and working out definitely doesn't hurt testosterone levels, right?

00:52:23.000 Doesn't hurt.

00:52:24.000 Every independent study shows that.

00:52:26.000 So, and I'm half kidding about that whole thing, but you should feed your kid meat.

00:52:31.000 So, so yeah, look, what do you do?

00:52:34.000 Well, they're already realizing this is not going to be as easy as they thought.

00:52:38.000 And just every day you should just say a prayer: Lord, thank you for the courage and the wisdom of the founding fathers and the country able to live in.

00:52:45.000 Because you are still in heaven, you are still inheriting that gift.

00:52:49.000 You are still inheriting that gift multiple generations away.

00:52:52.000 One of them is the states created the federal government, the federal government didn't create the states.

00:52:57.000 That means it's a lot harder to get 330 million people to do something if there's all these different layers of government that's a check and balance on power.

00:53:04.000 It's a lot harder.

00:53:06.000 This is something that the lockdown artists failed at during COVID here, yet in Europe, they were successful.

00:53:12.000 In Europe, if Berlin, Brussels, Paris, Rome say something, the whole country locks down.

00:53:19.000 Here, if DC says something, it's like, oh, you got your state, you got your county, you got your local, and then beyond that, you got to tell me to go wear a mask when I shower, Mr. Fauci.

00:53:28.000 Okay, it's not going to happen.

00:53:30.000 And you got DeSantis.

00:53:32.000 Yeah.

00:53:32.000 And so what happened was, you know, the liberal Justice Louis Brandeis said this: laboratories of democracy.

00:53:40.000 And it was kind of messy, but it was messy in a good way, wasn't it?

00:53:42.000 I mean, it was bad for you guys in Colorado.

00:53:45.000 It was bad in California, but you guys weren't even the worst, by the way.

00:53:48.000 You weren't.

00:53:48.000 You guys opened up earlier.

00:53:50.000 You were like probably in the middle of the past.

00:53:52.000 El Paso County, we still, I mean, we opened up really quickly.

00:53:55.000 Yeah, totally.

00:53:56.000 And that's because of good county supervisors and you.

00:53:58.000 And so, but in Europe, like the whole country goes locked down as soon as the edict comes from the centralized authority, because in Italy or in Germany or in France, like the center of the government created the provinces, not the other way around.

00:54:13.000 So the founders, they came together as a collection of states, previously sovereign, because it was a collection of people previously sovereign to then create a national federal government.

00:54:24.000 And then if there were questions that weren't specifically defined in the Bill of Rights, they go back to the states and the people.

00:54:29.000 That's what the 10th Amendment says, right?

00:54:31.000 And so when the lockdowns came, you had Florida that was open, South Dakota that was open, some states that remained closed.

00:54:37.000 And where did you see the most amount of people moving to?

00:54:39.000 The open states, and it just drives me nuts because the very same people who voted for the lockdown politicians started to move into the open states.

00:54:46.000 You've all experienced that.

00:54:47.000 I live in Phoenix.

00:54:49.000 It's happening all the time.

00:54:50.000 But still, hopefully they'll learn something and we could teach them something and they can grow in wisdom and stature of what liberty and freedom is.

00:54:57.000 Might be woefully optimistic or idealistic in that way.

00:55:00.000 But it's a lot harder to command and control a country that was built from the bottom up.

00:55:06.000 And that's what the founders gave you.

00:55:08.000 They built a structure that was bottom up, not top down.

00:55:12.000 A lot harder to implement tyranny.

00:55:14.000 It's not impossible, by the way.

00:55:16.000 There's federal decrees, right?

00:55:19.000 But even the current administration, they tried to do vaccine mandates nationwide.

00:55:25.000 It failed, right?

00:55:26.000 They tried to do all these things.

00:55:28.000 And so, and by the way, in like in Canada, Canada, they just signed a piece of paper and it's done.

00:55:37.000 And so that gives me hope.

00:55:38.000 But I'll tell you, there's a revival of citizenship happening in our country right now.

00:55:43.000 And we call it at Turning Point USA, the rise of the citizen.

00:55:48.000 It's the rise of the disagreeable mom who's going to the superintendent, be like, who put you in charge, actually?

00:55:54.000 You know nothing.

00:55:55.000 I pay your salary.

00:55:56.000 I don't care.

00:55:57.000 You went to Berkeley.

00:55:58.000 That actually makes me think less of you.

00:56:00.000 We're in charge.

00:56:01.000 And there's 600 moms you're going to have to listen to.

00:56:04.000 So sit down and listen to us.

00:56:06.000 That gives me hope.

00:56:07.000 And it's happening all across the country.

00:56:09.000 Don't want to mess with Mamma Berry.

00:56:11.000 No.

00:56:12.000 Don't want a message.

00:56:13.000 And so the final thing is this, is that I'm seeing a revival, in fact, a new interest.

00:56:18.000 And I just want to encourage you, because you're doing this, and it is shaking the ground that the great reset crowd is standing on to try to terrorize you or to try to put tyranny upon you, is this, which is a revival of self-government.

00:56:34.000 It's, all right, if things fall apart, who am I going to point to?

00:56:37.000 Do I have food to feed my family?

00:56:39.000 Water to make sure that they have the proper hydration.

00:56:43.000 Do I have the ability to defend myself?

00:56:44.000 You have to all of a sudden get back into a posture of I am going to take responsibility for what I care about.

00:56:51.000 No more blaming other people.

00:56:53.000 That's what you could do to all of a sudden shake the matrix of the great reset.

00:56:56.000 It is the opposite of what they need you to do.

00:56:59.000 They need you to be hands out, give me benefits, give me stimulus checks, give me what you need.

00:57:04.000 The opposite is like, no, I'm going to grow my own food.

00:57:06.000 I'm going to have my own emergency supply.

00:57:08.000 I'm going to educate my kids.

00:57:10.000 I'm going to be able to have reserves.

00:57:11.000 I'm going to be in charge of my own destiny, actually, to the best I can.

00:57:14.000 I'll leave the rest up to the Lord, right?

00:57:15.000 I'm going to have community.

00:57:16.000 I'm going to have friends.

00:57:17.000 We're going to look out for each other.

00:57:18.000 We're going to care about our local government.

00:57:19.000 Amen.

00:57:20.000 And we're not going to bend a knee to Davos.

00:57:21.000 We're not going to bend a knee to Washington.

00:57:23.000 You understand that when you do that, when you do that, you're strengthening your sovereignty is what you're doing.

00:57:31.000 I know it might not feel that way.

00:57:32.000 It might be, but you understand it makes you so much tougher to be eliminated.

00:57:37.000 The people in charge will say, man, those people in El Paso County, they grow their own food.

00:57:42.000 Like, they educate their kids.

00:57:44.000 Like, they're not buying what we're selling.

00:57:47.000 How are we going to, how are we going to be in control there?

00:57:50.000 And what you want them is you're like, we're not.

00:57:53.000 Amen.

00:57:53.000 Like, we're going to go like rule over Berkeley or like whatever, right?

00:57:56.000 Fine, go have fun.

00:57:57.000 Great.

00:57:57.000 They want to be ruled.

00:57:58.000 They want, like, we want, we want the people to be rulers.

00:58:03.000 We do not want the rulers to rule the people unnecessarily without our consent.

00:58:07.000 So, yeah, that's what gives me hope.

00:58:08.000 That's the solution.

00:58:09.000 But it's going to take an act of citizenry.

00:58:11.000 It's going to take a disagreeable citizenry.

00:58:14.000 And I'm going to tell you something that you might not want to hear.

00:58:17.000 And it's something that's true.

00:58:18.000 And you guys would expect nothing but the truth.

00:58:20.000 It's going to take many decades probably to rebuild this thing.

00:58:23.000 And I know you might not want to hear it, but the founding fathers knew they weren't going to see the perfect country the moment they started it.

00:58:31.000 The most important things, the things that are done that are remembered in history is when you start a cause, you don't see the end.

00:58:41.000 Cause of Moses.

00:58:43.000 Cause of our founding fathers.

00:58:44.000 It's the cause of the greatest generation that stormed Normandy Beach.

00:58:47.000 And one in four were mowed down when they came out to go fight totalitarianism.

00:58:52.000 So that should actually give you hope.

00:58:54.000 Because there's kind of this thing like, Charlie, 30 years is too long for me.

00:58:57.000 I want to see results now.

00:58:58.000 Well, I'm not going to lie to you.

00:59:00.000 It's going to take a while to rebuild this thing.

00:59:02.000 And it's going to take a lot of fights.

00:59:04.000 And we have momentum and we can have some big wins and big victories.

00:59:06.000 We want the trajectory to go in our way, but we're just now starting to fight after they have been doing their program for the last 50 years.

00:59:14.000 But I want you to look at your grandkids.

00:59:16.000 Like, you're worth it.

00:59:18.000 You're worth me not becoming cynical.

00:59:20.000 You're worth me not becoming pessimistic.

00:59:23.000 You're worth me believing in the intergenerational promise.

00:59:26.000 You're worth me not saying that I'm just going to keep on just cashing it in.

00:59:31.000 And that's the moral thing to do.

00:59:32.000 And guess what?

00:59:32.000 That takes courage.

00:59:34.000 It does.

00:59:35.000 It takes courage to want to believe in something you might not see the entire end of.

00:59:40.000 Because it's easier to just kind of turn on TV, be like, yeah, whatever.

00:59:45.000 You know, I'm not going to fight for it.

00:59:46.000 I hope for the best.

00:59:47.000 That's cowardly.

00:59:48.000 You know that.

00:59:49.000 But I'm seeing a beautiful, multi-generational movement be formed of people from all walks of life, plumbers, electricians, police officers, pastors, moms, and dads engage at every single level, saying, you know what?

01:00:02.000 I'm going to do everything I possibly can.

01:00:04.000 I'm going to leave the rest up to the Lord.

01:00:05.000 But for my grandkids, I want them to live in a free country.

01:00:08.000 I'm going to do everything I possibly can to make sure that happens.

01:00:20.000 One more question.

01:00:21.000 I think it's good for the kids because, like you said, the metaverse and the social media.

01:00:26.000 And you, just for, because, look, if you look at the crowd and see all the young people out there that are, I would say, addicted to their social media, addicted to their phones.

01:00:37.000 And you guys are a social media platform.

01:00:39.000 I mean, that's how you get your information out.

01:00:41.000 So I know you're not against social media.

01:00:43.000 No, I am, for sure.

01:00:44.000 Yeah.

01:00:45.000 But, I mean, well, I mean, I'll be.

01:00:48.000 Yeah, go ahead, sorry.

01:00:49.000 But you and your wife have set up some cool boundaries.

01:00:52.000 I think it'd be good for the kids to hear.

01:00:54.000 Yeah, and families to hear, because it's spiritual.

01:00:57.000 I do believe it's a spirituality.

01:00:58.000 Oh, for sure.

01:00:59.000 It looks like cocaine to a lot of these kids.

01:01:01.000 It is.

01:01:01.000 No, it's actually worse than cocaine.

01:01:02.000 Every study shows that.

01:01:03.000 It affects the brain worse than heroin.

01:01:05.000 And I could get into that.

01:01:06.000 So, yeah, look, it's a means to the end.

01:01:08.000 I have no social media apps on my phone.

01:01:10.000 I'm blessed to be able to have a team that manages it all for me.

01:01:12.000 I know that's something that is unrealistic for a lot of people, but I've cut out these apps a long time ago.

01:01:18.000 I use it as a distribution thing, no different if I have like an email listserv or whatever.

01:01:22.000 I approve all the posts, but I consume nothing.

01:01:25.000 Okay?

01:01:25.000 So with that being said, I know that's unrealistic for a lot of you.

01:01:28.000 You get your news and information from it.

01:01:29.000 So let me just start with one thing that my wife and I started to do back in July that is biblical that I think the American church has forgotten.

01:01:37.000 And I think, and I'm going to write my next two books from now, my next book's about college and why you shouldn't go to college.

01:01:43.000 But the book after that is going to be about this topic.

01:01:45.000 Why you shouldn't go to public school?

01:01:47.000 Have that in there, too.

01:01:48.000 I will, yes.

01:01:49.000 But no, my, and two, but it really is the gift of the Sabbath.

01:01:53.000 And I've done a lot of thinking about this.

01:01:54.000 So I take a Jewish Sabbath every Friday night.

01:01:57.000 I'm not legalistic about it.

01:01:58.000 I'll get in a car.

01:01:59.000 If I have to speak somewhere, I will, but I turn my phone off completely.

01:02:02.000 I'm unreachable by the world, and I'm consuming no information from the world for 24 hours, Friday night to Saturday night.

01:02:08.000 And so I do six days of work, Sunday through Friday night, and I just kind of close off.

01:02:13.000 Now, a couple of ways I got to doing this.

01:02:15.000 By the way, I'm not saying we're bound by that law.

01:02:17.000 I'm not.

01:02:18.000 It's the only New Testament law that Jesus did not repeat to say that we're bound to.

01:02:22.000 The argument I'm making is that it will bless you.

01:02:24.000 That's a separate argument, and that it did actually predate the law because it was during creation.

01:02:29.000 We'll get into that, okay?

01:02:31.000 Because I get in this theological thing.

01:02:32.000 Someone said, Charlie, your theology is terrible.

01:02:34.000 We're not bound by it.

01:02:35.000 I've never said that, okay?

01:02:36.000 Make your own decision, but I guarantee it will improve your life.

01:02:39.000 I always say just put it in your theological pipe and smoke it.

01:02:42.000 Yeah, that's see, I got to work with a lot of different pastors.

01:02:50.000 So, look, every Friday night, the phones go off for 24 hours, 25 hours.

01:02:57.000 And we do it for a couple of reasons.

01:02:58.000 I believe in the Old Testament, one of the Ten Commandments was important enough to bless God's chosen people.

01:03:05.000 For me, it really makes you prioritize what matters most.

01:03:08.000 It reorganizes the hierarchy, remember?

01:03:10.000 So, I think our hierarchies are messed up in our country right now.

01:03:13.000 What better way to reorganize them than to turn off the top way that we get interrupted, anxious, depressed, and notified more than anything else?

01:03:20.000 And that's that little digital pacifier that we all carry around, right?

01:03:25.000 And so, look, that's one thing we do.

01:03:28.000 Let me just say one more thing about the Sabbath.

01:03:29.000 If every American Christian took the Sabbath seriously, similar to what I just talked about, I believe there would be less anxiety, less depression, more patriotism, stronger families, and less of the kind of problems we're seeing.

01:03:42.000 I believe that, just from the Ten Commandments standpoint, I believe that the Ten Commandments is the commandment that makes the other nine possible.

01:03:50.000 I do.

01:03:51.000 For example, one of the commandments that is falling apart in our country is a commandment that every totalitarian government seeks to eliminate, which is the bond between a parent and a child.

01:04:02.000 Every country that has a tyrant wants to make parents distant from their children and vice versa.

01:04:08.000 It is the only one of the Ten Commandments that comes with a promise and involves your nation.

01:04:12.000 Honor your mother and father so that you might live long in the land of which you are in.

01:04:16.000 So, it involves your country and it comes with a specific promise.

01:04:20.000 So, how do we properly honor our parents?

01:04:23.000 How do you grow closer to your children?

01:04:24.000 How about have a Shabbos Friday night dinner every Friday?

01:04:28.000 In a technologically dominated world, it's a great way to reprioritize family.

01:04:34.000 And some people say, Charlie, I'm too busy.

01:04:36.000 I can't do that.

01:04:37.000 I'm busy too.

01:04:39.000 I traveled 330 days last year.

01:04:41.000 I got 280 people that work for me.

01:04:43.000 I do three podcasts a day, and I got to raise a boatload of money to keep this whole thing going.

01:04:47.000 We're all busy.

01:04:48.000 I get it.

01:04:48.000 You might be busier than me.

01:04:49.000 I get it.

01:04:50.000 No, maybe you are, right?

01:04:51.000 You got eight kids.

01:04:52.000 My goodness.

01:04:53.000 That's more than what I got to deal with.

01:04:55.000 I want to challenge you to do this.

01:04:57.000 Your life will be blessed, okay?

01:05:00.000 So, just from the social media thing in general, parents, your children should not get any social media apps or a phone till they're 18 years old, period.

01:05:08.000 These things, it is more dangerous, it is more dangerous to give a child a smartphone than to give them a firearm.

01:05:17.000 It's that simple.

01:05:18.000 It will destroy their life, it will destroy their self-image, it'll destroy their communication habits, it'll destroy how they consume information.

01:05:24.000 There is zero redeemable value for a teenager to have social media, period.

01:05:30.000 I will go up, I will go head-to-head on anyone against that.

01:05:34.000 You know why?

01:05:35.000 Because I lived it, I run it, I publish on it, I have millions of followers on it.

01:05:40.000 Kind of a subject matter expert on it.

01:05:41.000 It's not redeemable.

01:05:42.000 There's other ways to consume the information we publish outside of social media, by the way.

01:05:46.000 That's only a means to the end for us.

01:05:47.000 It's a tool, it's a technology.

01:05:48.000 No difference at a shovel or a wheel.

01:05:50.000 That's the way we look at it.

01:05:51.000 I look at it as a way to reach the target audience.

01:05:54.000 Look, it's tough, though.

01:05:55.000 You know, there's a lot of peer pressure, a lot of friends that have it.

01:05:58.000 Oh, how am I going to know?

01:05:59.000 That's up for parents, I think, to get in.

01:06:01.000 But you want to know why this is the most depressed, suicidal, anxious, medicated, alcohol-addicted, drug-overdosing generation in history?

01:06:08.000 Well, they're also the most godless and soulless, but they're staring at a screen of something that doesn't exist, of a reality that isn't reality, of a fabricated algorithm designed by profit-seeking, technologically dominated, Silicon Valley, secular technocrats that have hired neuroscientists that do lab rat-style studies on six-year-olds so that your grandchildren can stare at screens longer.

01:06:33.000 I'm trying to warn you: this is a new heroin.

01:06:36.000 And I know it's hard, I know it's tough, but the earlier you draw those lines, the expectation for your child or grandchild, the freer your kid will be.

01:06:46.000 The least free people I know are people that look at their phones all day long, myself included.

01:06:50.000 That's why I decided to detach from them for one day a week.

01:06:52.000 It's my freest day of the week.

01:06:54.000 And I just say, you know what?

01:06:55.000 God wants me to be free of this phone.

01:06:56.000 And yeah, I turn it back on and I have 600 text messages, 1,000 emails.

01:07:00.000 No, I do.

01:07:01.000 No, it's true.

01:07:02.000 But everyone, everyone's going to touch me, and they say, where were you?

01:07:05.000 I took a day for God.

01:07:06.000 What you had to say wasn't important enough.

01:07:07.000 There, fine.

01:07:08.000 Have a nice day.

01:07:10.000 Right?

01:07:10.000 No, seriously.

01:07:11.000 But I mean, I see the moms and dad nod their heads this way, and I see the kids with like shout out to the tear in their eyes.

01:07:21.000 I'll close with this.

01:07:23.000 Take with what you want.

01:07:24.000 I'm not saying you're a bad person if you don't do this.

01:07:25.000 I'm not moralizing.

01:07:26.000 I'm just trying to help you.

01:07:27.000 I'm trying to help you because I meet far too many parents where their kids don't share their values.

01:07:31.000 They're depressed.

01:07:32.000 Their eyes are wide open.

01:07:33.000 They're watching their screens nine or ten hours a day.

01:07:36.000 They're not human.

01:07:37.000 They're more cyborg.

01:07:38.000 They're just waiting for the goggles to come on to go into some weird, ready player one extra existence.

01:07:43.000 If you ever seen the movie, it's actually a phenomenal movie that shows where we're going.

01:07:46.000 We spend more time with the goggles on than in reality.

01:07:49.000 God doesn't want you to live that way.

01:07:50.000 Amen.

01:07:51.000 It's not the way that I want you to live either.

01:07:53.000 And so I just, I want to challenge you to live free of the tech tyranny that's coming your way.

01:07:57.000 Thank you.

01:07:58.000 Thank you very much.

01:08:00.000 All right.

01:08:01.000 So it is time for QA.

01:08:06.000 But there's rules with QA.

01:08:08.000 The mics are on either side over here.

01:08:10.000 If you give a statement or a bio, we will shut you off.

01:08:15.000 This is for questions only.

01:08:18.000 So if you come up, you must have a question.

01:08:21.000 My team in the back, if you begin to politicize or make a statement, we'll shut you off.

01:08:27.000 Sorry, that's the rules.

01:08:29.000 Any problem with those rules?

01:08:30.000 All right, let's do this.

01:08:34.000 Ladies and gentlemen, if you guys stand in, can you line up when I'll sign up?

01:08:42.000 Thank you.

01:08:44.000 We'll go right side of me to left side.

01:08:54.000 Wow.

01:08:55.000 And with current events, I was wondering how you would go about men being in women's sports.

01:09:03.000 So, and a turning point USA chapter leader.

01:09:07.000 We'll give it up for her for that.

01:09:08.000 That's the real courage.

01:09:12.000 That takes the strength.

01:09:13.000 And to say that to a late weightlifter is a big deal.

01:09:16.000 NCAA?

01:09:18.000 Technically, yes.

01:09:20.000 Okay.

01:09:20.000 Yeah, look, you're in a tough spot.

01:09:22.000 So again, I'm on this pastor chain, and they're all such amazing pastors, and they were so enthusiastic.

01:09:28.000 And I just asked him, I said, how many of you guys know other pastors that have informed their congregation about William Thomas?

01:09:34.000 And people are like, who's William Thomas?

01:09:37.000 All right, well, let's talk about William Thomas.

01:09:39.000 So William Thomas has destroyed female sports, as we know.

01:09:42.000 I'm sure William Thomas is a nice person.

01:09:44.000 I guarantee you, William Thomas needs counseling and therapy.

01:09:47.000 I want that for that person.

01:09:49.000 I want the best for them.

01:09:50.000 I want every human being to be able to flourish.

01:09:53.000 But I also don't like cheaters.

01:09:56.000 And you shouldn't either.

01:09:57.000 So William Thomas is a cheater.

01:10:00.000 William Thomas is a man who is suffering from gender dysphoria.

01:10:04.000 It's a legitimate psychological condition.

01:10:07.000 Gender dysphoria is where you think you're in a different body than you actually are.

01:10:11.000 We're not the first civilization to deal with this.

01:10:13.000 For thousands of years, this has been a phenomenon.

01:10:16.000 And for the last 60 years, we've had non-medical ways of having counseling and therapy to be able to deal with this in a rather understated and private way.

01:10:26.000 Just in the last couple of years, we've decided to elevate and platform gender dysphoria as some sort of identity crisis.

01:10:32.000 So William Thomas was the 462nd best male swimmer in America.

01:10:39.000 William Thomas then woke up one day and said, I am now a woman.

01:10:43.000 William Thomas is now an NCAA national champion, best woman swimmer in the country, and won the NCAA championship just two weeks ago.

01:10:53.000 And we're just supposed to put up with it.

01:10:55.000 Now, the NCAA has, of course, capitulated to the Alphabet Mafia and all of the kind of forces around it.

01:11:05.000 And the other women, God bless them, have had to try to compete against a man and lose, by the way, as William Thomas became a national champion.

01:11:16.000 So I have a different take on this.

01:11:18.000 Not different, but one that I think is, you know, important for contribution.

01:11:22.000 This is not your fight.

01:11:24.000 You are a woman.

01:11:27.000 Where are the men?

01:11:32.000 So here's where I'm really upset: we believe that men are protectors, protectors of the innocent, protectors of what is the natural law.

01:11:48.000 I would say that women don't have fight in them, but men need to lead.

01:11:53.000 So at the NCAA tournament, what I would have loved to have seen in a different America, in a 1950s America, let me tell you what would have happened.

01:12:04.000 Yeah.

01:12:05.000 Let me tell you what would have happened.

01:12:08.000 Is that the fathers of every other competitor would have come down out of the stands and formed a line in front of William Thomas and saying, hey, tough guy.

01:12:24.000 You want to get in the pool?

01:12:27.000 Because you're going to have to come through us.

01:12:30.000 Instead, I watch these videos of these masked, beta male, low-testosterone fathers kind of hunched over, not wanting to offend anyone as they work for the corporate machine.

01:12:41.000 And I say, that's why this is happening.

01:12:43.000 Women have been left to fend for themselves.

01:12:45.000 And guess what?

01:12:46.000 Now men are terrorizing them.

01:12:48.000 William Thomas is a man terrorizing other women.

01:12:52.000 Why are we putting up with this?

01:12:53.000 And the reason is because we've allowed men to become weak.

01:12:59.000 And so I'm about done with this whole topic.

01:13:02.000 My patience has run thin.

01:13:03.000 And so here's my challenge for every man across America.

01:13:06.000 This is happening in your local school board.

01:13:08.000 It's not a matter of showing up to meetings and all this.

01:13:11.000 You need to intervene.

01:13:12.000 You need to show up to the sporting men.

01:13:14.000 Like, this is not happening, actually.

01:13:15.000 You're not competing against my daughter.

01:13:17.000 She has XX chromosomes.

01:13:19.000 You have XY chromosomes.

01:13:20.000 Get off the court.

01:13:21.000 Get out of the pool.

01:13:22.000 It's not going to happen anymore.

01:13:35.000 Thank you.

01:13:40.000 Okay.

01:13:41.000 So I'm Noah.

01:13:43.000 And so I am really interested in getting involved in politics.

01:13:48.000 And I want to eventually run for Congress someday.

01:13:52.000 But I have no idea.

01:13:54.000 I have no idea how to get involved.

01:13:56.000 And whenever I try to research it, it says go to college.

01:13:59.000 It says do all that.

01:14:01.000 I don't want to go to college for politics because I don't want to be indoctrinated.

01:14:04.000 I don't think.

01:14:05.000 So how do you get involved?

01:14:10.000 How do I get involved?

01:14:12.000 How do I learn what to do, especially being young Republican?

01:14:15.000 So can I ask you a couple questions?

01:14:16.000 Yes.

01:14:16.000 How many doors have you ever knocked on for a candidate?

01:14:21.000 Okay, so you need at least 25,000 doors before you even figure out whether you want to get involved in politics or not.

01:14:26.000 I'm not kidding.

01:14:28.000 I cut my teeth in the suburbs of Chicago trying to convince Chicagoans to vote for Republicans.

01:14:35.000 100,000 doors for all sorts of different types of candidates.

01:14:38.000 Mark Kirk, you name it, no relation.

01:14:40.000 You'll learn a lot about yourself and you learn whether or not you want to be in this business.

01:14:43.000 Now, I'm not patronizing you at all because the problem is we tell you, go get your political science degree.

01:14:47.000 No, you don't need that, actually.

01:14:48.000 Go get a clipboard.

01:14:50.000 Go knock on a bunch of doors.

01:14:51.000 Volunteer for a city council candidate.

01:14:52.000 Volunteer for a state rep candidate.

01:14:54.000 Volunteer for a state Senate candidate, get to know them, and figure out if this is really what you want to do or not, right?

01:15:01.000 Oh, yeah, no, for sure.

01:15:02.000 And by the way, it could just be a summer, right?

01:15:04.000 $10,000 sounds ambitious.

01:15:06.000 You could divide it up.

01:15:06.000 It's very, very important.

01:15:08.000 And it's important because that's really what politics is.

01:15:10.000 It's not the pizzaz, not the Instagram followers.

01:15:12.000 Politics is people.

01:15:13.000 Politics is relationships, right?

01:15:15.000 So that's the first thing.

01:15:16.000 The second thing, the cool thing about politics, which is why college is completely unnecessary for politics, is that it's a pure meritocracy.

01:15:22.000 And you know this, those of you that are running campaigns, you hire the person that shows up the earliest, stays there the latest.

01:15:28.000 Politics is where you can move up super quick based on how hard you work.

01:15:32.000 It's like it rewards competency and people that put in a lot of hours.

01:15:36.000 College teaches you none of those things, by the way.

01:15:39.000 And so I would just, the best advice I could give you is activity.

01:15:44.000 Just be active.

01:15:45.000 And by the way, a couple months in, you might say, I don't want to do this.

01:15:48.000 Awesome.

01:15:48.000 At age 18, you found out what you don't want to do.

01:15:51.000 Most people have to go to college and go into debt to figure out, I don't want to do this.

01:15:57.000 They go borrow money they don't have to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist.

01:16:03.000 And they go to Colorado University Boulder and they're studying North African lesbian poetry and they're wondering why.

01:16:13.000 And they're like, I don't know what I want to do, so action.

01:16:17.000 And so that's what I would tell you.

01:16:18.000 And then finally, ask for opportunities.

01:16:21.000 We need more young people involved.

01:16:22.000 But doors, doors, doors, activity, the local matters the most.

01:16:26.000 I just want to encourage you for that.

01:16:27.000 Thank you.

01:16:34.000 So you don't want statements, you want questions.

01:16:37.000 Let me see if I can do this.

01:16:39.000 Why do you keep giving credence to the crazy commentary on Romans 13, 1, bowing and surrendering to the government when Paul said in verse 3, the government is forgetting the bad guys?

01:16:52.000 What in the world was he basing that on?

01:16:54.000 Solomon in the Proverbs, the throne is established in righteousness.

01:17:01.000 When it's not, it goes against God's government, and that government is illegal.

01:17:06.000 It needs to be taken down.

01:17:07.000 Solomon said again in Proverbs 28, 4, those who obey God resist the wicked.

01:17:13.000 Let's get in gear.

01:17:14.000 Let's fight them.

01:17:18.000 I don't think so.

01:17:19.000 Yeah.

01:17:20.000 Anybody else knew that?

01:17:21.000 I'm about to turn your mic up, but that was great.

01:17:24.000 Yeah.

01:17:25.000 I think that might have been a question.

01:17:26.000 I mean.

01:17:28.000 Why do we give it credence?

01:17:30.000 Well, look, we're only addressing the consensus of American Christianity.

01:17:34.000 That's why.

01:17:34.000 So we are addressing an overly cited verse that is used and is an excuse for inaction.

01:17:39.000 That's why we keep on mentioning it to answer your question, is that every pastor at every corner in every community uses that verse as a reason not to have forums like this to answer your specific question.

01:17:49.000 Can I put a plug in?

01:17:51.000 So I did a teaching.

01:17:52.000 It's about an hour long.

01:17:53.000 It's called Romans 13, Forgetting God.

01:17:56.000 And I unpacked that in great detail.

01:17:58.000 You can find it on our YouTube channel.

01:18:00.000 I encourage you, anybody that wants to hear the true meaning of Romans 13 for the United States of America, We the People.

01:18:07.000 It's on our YouTube channel, Romans 13, Forgetting God.

01:18:11.000 Thank you.

01:18:14.000 Hi, I'd just like to know where fixing the election fraud problem falls within your platform.

01:18:20.000 Great.

01:18:20.000 So I think we're streaming on YouTube right now, so I don't want to lose Twitter and YouTube in the same week, but what the heck.

01:18:26.000 So I won't be good for business.

01:18:35.000 Look, it's a huge part of my platform, especially personally, and my podcast.

01:18:41.000 We cover it probably only second to probably Bannon's show about what happened in the 2020 election.

01:18:47.000 I'm in Dinesh D'Azouza's upcoming movie, by the way, called 2,000 Mules.

01:18:53.000 So I don't want to spend too much time on this, but let me just kind of comment on this a little bit.

01:19:00.000 2,000 Meals will be one of the most effective and persuasive movies you'll ever see that shows exactly what happened in the 2020 election using geolocated cell technology, cellular technology, publicly available to anyone at any time, able to trace the activity of over 2,000 people that visited ballot drop boxes alongside video that shows people coming out of videos at 3.45 in the morning.

01:19:23.000 When we coming out of cars, I should say, at 3.45 in the morning, where we all vote, when we all vote, right?

01:19:27.000 3.45 in the morning, fully masked with latex gloves on, piles of ballots going up to ballot drop boxes, stuffing them in after taking a picture of every single ballot, closing the ballot drop box and taking off the latex gloves and throwing them in the trash can to not get any fingerprints on them, one after the other, after the other, after the other.

01:19:44.000 You're going to see that in that movie and more.

01:19:45.000 So look, it was the most interfered with election in history.

01:19:48.000 I could talk about the Hunter Biden laptop thing, which was an unbelievable injustice by the lack of reporting by the American regime media.

01:19:55.000 The fact that the New York Times, that Politico and all them, said that it wasn't true before the election while votes were being counted.

01:20:02.000 And then afterwards they said, oh, yeah, by the way, it is true, was a direct action of election interference, was anti-democratic, was authoritarian in nature, that the paper of record would do that, Politico alongside, and it directly interfered with our election.

01:20:15.000 17% of voters said they would have voted differently if they would have known out of one of the Hunter Biden-Joe Biden scandals, one of them, yet it was completely and totally suppressed.

01:20:25.000 So that's one part of it, if I could say.

01:20:28.000 The other part of it is the $430 million pumped in by Mark Zuckerberg in the Center for Technology and Civic Life.

01:20:34.000 That was a complete hijacking of our elections that put in privately funded ballot drop boxes.

01:20:39.000 So I could keep on going and going, not to mention all the election rules that were broken.

01:20:44.000 You guys know the Colorado situation far better than I do.

01:20:46.000 I don't know it very well.

01:20:47.000 I'll be very honest.

01:20:48.000 I know Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan really well.

01:20:51.000 That's where my attention's been.

01:20:52.000 But my goodness, you guys have been the playground, the Petri dish for mass mail-in ballot shenanigans that has then been exported to every other state.

01:21:02.000 So I just want to encourage you in that fight.

01:21:04.000 I want to encourage you to fight for election integrity.

01:21:07.000 It is not a political issue.

01:21:10.000 It is a foundational issue for our Republic.

01:21:18.000 And if you're not aware of what's going on with Tina Peters, I'd definitely look into that.

01:21:22.000 If you don't, I'm shocked at the amount of Christians that have not been following the Secretary of the State, who's a Soros-backed lady, Jenna Griswold, and what she is doing to Tina Peters, weaponizing the FBI against her and Sharona Bishop and everything else.

01:21:39.000 So Sharona Bishop, Tina Peters, if you're not familiar with those two things, you need to stop being complacent, complicit, and complacent.

01:21:48.000 So next question.

01:21:51.000 We're going to get to as many as we can, okay?

01:21:53.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:21:54.000 My name is Callie.

01:21:56.000 I know that you and I are pretty close in age, and I started my business when I was 18.

01:22:04.000 So I have a unique set of circumstances versus most of the people my age who are in the military or work for corporations or that type of thing.

01:22:12.000 We're kind of past college, but in the workforce a little bit more.

01:22:17.000 And I was wondering how you encourage the courage in other people when you don't necessarily face it yourself.

01:22:24.000 I'm kind of in an uncanceful situation, and so is my husband.

01:22:28.000 But how do we encourage our friends who are not?

01:22:31.000 Yeah, that's a tough question.

01:22:33.000 Difficult because this is the question that I probably spend most of my time is studying courage.

01:22:40.000 It's so rare.

01:22:41.000 And yet we all know it when we see it.

01:22:43.000 We kind of just stand and point when we see courage, right?

01:22:46.000 Like put it on our screen and we just love it.

01:22:48.000 Yeah, go, Tucker.

01:22:49.000 You have courage.

01:22:49.000 Great.

01:22:50.000 I like that.

01:22:51.000 I'll buy the pillow.

01:22:52.000 Great.

01:22:52.000 It's good.

01:22:53.000 So, love that.

01:22:55.000 It's like we love courage when we see it, right?

01:22:58.000 And yet, I have to say, though, that how do we spread courage?

01:23:03.000 Well, first we have to lead, follower, or get out of the way.

01:23:05.000 It requires, it requires people to be courage in them, first and foremost.

01:23:10.000 So, Plato had a great quote when it came to courage.

01:23:13.000 He said, Courage is the proper disposition towards fear.

01:23:16.000 Not that you shouldn't have fear, but it's knowing what you should be afraid of.

01:23:20.000 That's what courage is, right?

01:23:22.000 And so, how do we spread courage to other people?

01:23:24.000 We have to platform the courageous.

01:23:26.000 We have to be courageous ourselves.

01:23:28.000 We have to defend the courageous.

01:23:29.000 We have to know when the courageous are under attack.

01:23:32.000 Now, this is a very important thing, though, is that there's a difference between being bold and courageous.

01:23:38.000 And what's the difference?

01:23:39.000 Okay, being bold is when you're fighting for something that might not be good.

01:23:45.000 I'm sure there's plenty of Russian soldiers that are being bold, but they are not being courageous because their end is not right.

01:23:50.000 They're invading a sovereign country, they're bombing civilians.

01:23:54.000 They might be bold, but they're not courageous.

01:23:57.000 Courage is when you have the right end in mind.

01:24:00.000 Courage is when you're fighting for the right thing.

01:24:03.000 That's what courage is.

01:24:05.000 So, not courage is doing the right thing for the right end when you do not know how it's going to turn out.

01:24:13.000 That's what courage is.

01:24:15.000 When there is risk involved, that is courage.

01:24:18.000 Think about it.

01:24:18.000 If you just got to show up to work, that's not courageous.

01:24:21.000 That's just you doing the right thing.

01:24:23.000 It's when there's risk involved and it's the right thing, that's when it becomes courageous.

01:24:27.000 So, to your specific question, how do I encourage that in other people?

01:24:31.000 It's tough.

01:24:32.000 I'm not a quiet one.

01:24:34.000 You're not a quiet one, but you have to be active.

01:24:36.000 You have to be vocal.

01:24:37.000 You have to be communicative.

01:24:39.000 And the final thing I'll say is this: everyone should just have a list of courageous people in your life and just say, We need to help those people.

01:24:45.000 You need to buy them breakfast once a month.

01:24:47.000 I need to take them out.

01:24:48.000 Whatever it takes, it's so lacking.

01:24:50.000 And I believe courage is the solution to so many of our problems.

01:24:53.000 So, thank you.

01:24:56.000 Thank you.

01:25:01.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:25:01.000 My name is Alex.

01:25:02.000 I meet regularly with the Turning Point chapter at UCCS.

01:25:07.000 One thing I think we could greatly benefit to know is what's your take on how to deal with and stand up to all these other groups that want to spin narratives about us, harass us off campus, you know, try and limit our influence and just spin us to something we're not.

01:25:20.000 How to kind of win that little culture war, I guess you could say.

01:25:23.000 Yeah, it's a great question.

01:25:24.000 I just want to first encourage you and elaborate for the audience to understand what this is rooted in.

01:25:29.000 You want to talk about courage?

01:25:30.000 Great segue from the last question.

01:25:32.000 Our campus activists at Turning Point USA have courage.

01:25:35.000 I'll tell you why.

01:25:38.000 Every day, they make a public and conscious decision every day that I'm going to do what's right, even though I might get canceled, even though I might get a lower grade, even though I might lose friends.

01:25:50.000 That's tough, and it's rare, increasingly rare.

01:25:53.000 And so, I just want to just say the fact you're making that decision and you're doing that, you're going to be benefited by that for the rest of your life.

01:25:59.000 Okay, let me just say that.

01:26:01.000 So, but look, this is going to sound a lot easier than it actually is.

01:26:06.000 So, I'm going to give you a warning.

01:26:07.000 You have to just get to a place where you don't care what they call you.

01:26:11.000 It's a lot easier said than done.

01:26:13.000 Let me just say that.

01:26:14.000 But that's where I'm at.

01:26:15.000 What are you going to write about me?

01:26:17.000 Huh?

01:26:17.000 All right, whatever.

01:26:19.000 I know the people who support us and support Turning Point USA, and they far outnumber the opposition.

01:26:26.000 They outnumber them in literal numbers and influence and energy and enthusiasm.

01:26:31.000 And whatever they want to write, I know they live in a sea of lies and deceit.

01:26:34.000 Now, they rarely ever say those things to my face because I happen to have a reputation of standing up for our activists and Turning Point USA and not putting up with nonsense and lies.

01:26:44.000 So, that would be one thing.

01:26:45.000 If they ever say it to your face, I have no tolerance for that, ever.

01:26:48.000 Like, no, I'm not going to let you lie about me in front of me, actually.

01:26:51.000 Like, you're gonna have to say it right in my eyes.

01:26:53.000 I'm actually, what am I?

01:26:53.000 I'm a what?

01:26:55.000 The worst thing.

01:26:56.000 Actually, you're a racist.

01:26:57.000 And actually, you're actually, you're a bigoted racist.

01:27:00.000 No, I'm not.

01:27:00.000 Like, yeah, you actually want to judge people based on the color of their skin.

01:27:03.000 I don't.

01:27:03.000 You're the racist.

01:27:04.000 You want black-only dormitories.

01:27:06.000 Like, you want to judge, all of a sudden, they're like, oh, hold on, settle down, pal.

01:27:10.000 No, I thought you were in the name-calling business.

01:27:12.000 They have weaponized name-calling.

01:27:13.000 They have.

01:27:15.000 Name-calling is like one of the most powerful things in American society today.

01:27:19.000 It's incredibly powerful.

01:27:20.000 It's like, I'm going to call you a name.

01:27:21.000 I control your entire life.

01:27:22.000 So if there's one thing I'm trying to encourage the church is just be strong against the names they could call you.

01:27:29.000 I know it sounds silly, but we live under the kind of regime of name-call.

01:27:34.000 Like, you're a bad name.

01:27:36.000 Okay, I'm so sorry.

01:27:37.000 Where do I donate to make you think I'm not a racist?

01:27:43.000 Keep fighting.

01:27:44.000 We have your back.

01:27:44.000 God bless you, man.

01:27:45.000 Okay?

01:27:53.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:27:54.000 I'm here just in the last month from Canada.

01:27:58.000 It's interesting living in a country without a First Amendment.

01:28:02.000 I know, that's exactly right.

01:28:04.000 I haven't eaten in a restaurant because I didn't take the jab since October because it's illegal up there.

01:28:11.000 Anyway, I ask a question because we're a military town.

01:28:16.000 There's a lot going on in Russia and Ukraine.

01:28:20.000 What would you say is the worst of the two threats?

01:28:26.000 That situation or the WEF?

01:28:31.000 Well, look, first of all, what part of Canada are you from?

01:28:35.000 Toronto area in Ontario.

01:28:37.000 That's why you can't go to restaurants.

01:28:38.000 So that would explain that.

01:28:40.000 So yeah, look, what's a bigger threat?

01:28:43.000 Let me just first talk about the Russian-Ukrainian thing.

01:28:44.000 Look, this isn't a hard moral question.

01:28:46.000 There is a harder question.

01:28:47.000 I'll get to that in a second.

01:28:48.000 Is that you don't invade a weaker, smaller country just because you want their land.

01:28:52.000 Vladimir Putin's in the wrong.

01:28:53.000 That's an easy moral question to answer, period.

01:28:56.000 And there shouldn't be any mystery about that.

01:28:59.000 So the question is, what do we do about it?

01:29:01.000 And whether or not the Ukrainian government is pure as the driven snow, which they aren't.

01:29:05.000 And that's a whole separate question of whether or not Zelensky should be trusted and all those other sorts of different things.

01:29:10.000 And whether or not everything you're seeing in the news is exactly something that is totally transparent.

01:29:16.000 Separate question, right?

01:29:17.000 But who fired the missile first?

01:29:18.000 Who's invading who?

01:29:20.000 That's not a tough moral question.

01:29:21.000 The United States should not get involved in this conflict.

01:29:24.000 We should not send troops there.

01:29:26.000 Period.

01:29:26.000 End of story.

01:29:27.000 I've said that all along.

01:29:29.000 It's not our fight.

01:29:32.000 We had a president that went to Europe and said three things.

01:29:35.000 He said to U.S. troops, you're going to see it when you get there, talking about Ukraine.

01:29:38.000 He said, we're going to respond with chemical weapons if Russia uses chemical weapons, reversing 100 years of precedent.

01:29:44.000 And he said that we need regime change in Russia.

01:29:46.000 All three of those things are incredibly irresponsible.

01:29:49.000 He said all three of those things.

01:29:50.000 You can look up the quotes yourself, all three, in a matter of 48 hours.

01:29:54.000 Incredibly irresponsible and reckless.

01:29:56.000 Thankfully, the White House has walked back.

01:29:57.000 It's like the adults are like, wait a second, that's even too extreme for us.

01:30:01.000 So what's a bigger threat to America?

01:30:04.000 Yeah, I think a bigger threat to America is, of course, the World Economic Forum.

01:30:07.000 It's not even a close question, obviously.

01:30:10.000 And I'm not minimizing.

01:30:12.000 And look, the victims of this whole thing are the people of Ukraine.

01:30:15.000 I mean, when you have millions of refugees that have to leave their home, when you have the, it's so terrible.

01:30:20.000 It's hard to watch.

01:30:21.000 We shouldn't put up with it in any way.

01:30:23.000 We shouldn't minimize it, I should say.

01:30:25.000 However, you know, I just, I laugh at this and people say, Charlie, they're unrelated.

01:30:29.000 Actually, they're directly related, okay?

01:30:31.000 Because I saw the United States Congress march with a special spring in their step to go allocate $14 billion in funding with near like unanimous consent to go fund a foreign government while our own country is being invaded by the southern border and we can't get a dime to go fix it.

01:30:50.000 So they're directly related, actually.

01:30:52.000 Now, I would say that they were unrelated if we had everything perfectly funded and they were.

01:30:57.000 We don't, okay?

01:30:58.000 So, those are two different things.

01:30:59.000 So, but look, from a foreign policy standpoint and the World Economic Forum, understand that part of the agenda, I believe, of the current kind of anti-American regime is they want to try to weaken the American military.

01:31:11.000 And the way they're doing that, and they're, I mean, you see that with CRT, you see that with all these things, and they want to try to get the military in a place of compliance and submission, no matter what.

01:31:21.000 I mean, the fact I've been very upset the last year on the vaccine mandate issue, like really upset.

01:31:26.000 And I cannot believe, and every time I see a U.S. senator that didn't speak out about it, there's a couple that did.

01:31:32.000 Ron Johnson do his great credit did.

01:31:34.000 Mike Lee do his great credit did.

01:31:36.000 And Rand Paul, who's been amazing on the vaccine issue, by the way, has been unbelievable.

01:31:40.000 He really has to his great credit.

01:31:43.000 None of our congressmen or senators have said poop if they had a mouthful on it.

01:31:47.000 So we'll.

01:31:48.000 Yeah, again, with those exceptions.

01:31:50.000 But how on earth we tolerated having to push a vaccine forcibly on the military and just how everyone thought that this was just like fine and okay, especially you guys being in a military town.

01:32:04.000 I can't believe it.

01:32:06.000 I mean, we shouldn't put up with it.

01:32:07.000 In fact, I know you in Colorado don't have many options when it comes to leaders in that regard, but so many people that I thought would have fought for that, it was just such a big letdown and disappointment.

01:32:16.000 So, look, what is a bigger threat long-term, the World Economic Forum?

01:32:19.000 I make no qualms about the moral situation, the moral implications happening in Russia and Ukraine.

01:32:24.000 But I don't think it's the United States' role in any way, shape, or form to send troops, to get engaged, get involved.

01:32:30.000 I think we just got out of an endless war in Afghanistan, how terrible that was, a humiliation.

01:32:35.000 And let me just say one final thing on this before we get to the last question: which is some people say, Charlie, we got to go full speed into Ukraine.

01:32:40.000 We got to this whole thing.

01:32:41.000 I say, wait a second.

01:32:43.000 Let's pretend that's the right thing, and Zelensky is Nelson Mandela or whatever.

01:32:46.000 He's the greatest person.

01:32:47.000 Okay.

01:32:48.000 Let's just pretend, right?

01:32:49.000 Let's just pretend.

01:32:50.000 Whatever.

01:32:50.000 Maybe he is, but I don't think he is.

01:32:52.000 Okay, so let's pretend that that's the case.

01:32:54.000 Do you trust Mark Milley to do anything meaningful?

01:32:57.000 Do you trust Lloyd Austin?

01:32:59.000 Of course not.

01:32:59.000 We gave $85 billion of weapons to the Taliban.

01:33:03.000 We closed Bagram Air Base while 13 Marines were killed by a suicide bomber in the reckless withdrawal of Afghanistan.

01:33:10.000 And now, six months later, we're like beating the drums of war being like, hey, good idea.

01:33:13.000 Let's get Mark Milley in charge of another theater of combat.

01:33:16.000 Like, actually, no, all other balls and strikes aside of what's happening in Russia and Ukraine, we can all agree.

01:33:21.000 We don't trust the current people running the United States military.

01:33:24.000 We need to keep them far away from consequential theaters of war.

01:33:28.000 Okay.

01:33:30.000 This will be the last question.

01:33:33.000 All right.

01:33:34.000 My name is Joseph.

01:33:37.000 And my school has a big LGBTQ population.

01:33:42.000 And my little sister, she don't think she supports them, but she has decided to plant best friendships in front of some of them.

01:33:52.000 And I don't know how to put up with it.

01:33:56.000 Like, go about it.

01:33:58.000 Yeah.

01:33:58.000 Sure.

01:33:59.000 Yeah, look, I mean, love in all things, right?

01:34:01.000 And so, first of all, we have to have grace and love, but we have, I think, a misconception of what love is in this country.

01:34:07.000 I can get to the most cliche Christian sermon ever, but we have some first-time people that have them in a church here.

01:34:13.000 I know that because you guys contacted me beforehand.

01:34:15.000 There's four types of love.

01:34:16.000 Well, there's more than that in the Greek.

01:34:18.000 There's phileo, agape, eros, and storge, and they're all completely different, right?

01:34:22.000 So agape is for God, so agape the world.

01:34:25.000 So he gave his one only son a sacrificial love.

01:34:27.000 Storge is a love between a spouse and a child.

01:34:29.000 Eros would be love between a spouse, like the love I have with my wife.

01:34:34.000 And phileo is a brotherly love, right?

01:34:36.000 But in all love, we want to try to get people to live the best life that they could possibly live.

01:34:40.000 And sometimes that requires the communication of information that people do not want to hear.

01:34:45.000 Okay?

01:34:46.000 Now, that does not mean you have to be harsh or cruel or mean, but let me tell you an example of someone who loved me that I did not think they were doing what I needed to hear in a specific period of time.

01:34:56.000 So, I hate the dentist.

01:34:57.000 I think they're like medieval witch doctors.

01:34:59.000 Okay?

01:35:01.000 I'm sure we have some dentists here.

01:35:03.000 God bless you.

01:35:04.000 You do good work, important part of society.

01:35:08.000 I hope you don't harm anyone.

01:35:10.000 Okay, I'm kidding.

01:35:12.000 Not really.

01:35:12.000 I hate it.

01:35:13.000 Can't stand it.

01:35:14.000 I'm sure a lot of you agree, right?

01:35:16.000 I avoid them at all costs.

01:35:17.000 So I had this throbbing in the back of my mouth in June and July.

01:35:20.000 I conveniently ignored it, as any stubborn person would do.

01:35:24.000 August, it got worse.

01:35:25.000 I could barely open my jaw.

01:35:26.000 I couldn't host radio.

01:35:28.000 Finally, I found myself in a dentist's office, right?

01:35:31.000 Not by my own choosing.

01:35:32.000 So this amazing dentist, orthodontist, whole deal, in Scottsdale looked at me and within five minutes, she said, Charlie, I'm a big fan of Turning Point USA.

01:35:43.000 Listen to your podcast every single day.

01:35:45.000 I love your radio show.

01:35:47.000 And I need to get you into surgery in the next 48 hours.

01:35:51.000 Now, that was not what I wanted to hear.

01:35:53.000 In fact, I thought, I argued, I debated.

01:35:56.000 I was right.

01:35:57.000 It was my truth, okay?

01:35:59.000 I said, my truth is you're wrong, okay?

01:36:03.000 I'm dictating what I want.

01:36:07.000 She said, that's fine, but you have a bacterial infection that will go to your brain, and you won't have any truth to spread to anyone.

01:36:20.000 And I love you, brotherly, sisterly love, too much to let you walk out of this office without giving you urgent antibiotics and getting you back in here for surgery immediately.

01:36:33.000 And I didn't want to hear that.

01:36:35.000 I had to cancel everything on my calendar.

01:36:37.000 It was a disaster.

01:36:38.000 But it was the loving and the right thing.

01:36:42.000 And I'm still here today, and the wisdom teeth are gone.

01:36:44.000 The whole thing was done.

01:36:44.000 Now, why do I say that?

01:36:46.000 Is that you should want to try to tell people the loving and truthful thing of how God wants them to live, right?

01:36:53.000 God wants people to live in man and woman relationships, there in a monogamous way, to be able to flourish and to have children.

01:37:01.000 It's an unpopular political thought crime to say in America today.

01:37:05.000 However, that doesn't mean you have to be cruel.

01:37:07.000 It doesn't mean you have to be mean, but you should, in a brotherly or sisterly way, try to, in every way, shape, or form, say, God has a better plan in store for you.

01:37:15.000 God wants you to flourish in a way that you haven't even imagined or dreamed of yet.

01:37:20.000 And in fact, I love you so much, I'm willing to tell you something that you might not want to hear.

01:37:26.000 So that's how I would answer that question.

01:37:27.000 Okay, so yes.

01:37:30.000 Thank you very much for coming.

01:37:32.000 Yeah.

01:37:32.000 Just one other thing.

01:37:34.000 We can be here till midnight.

01:37:35.000 Yeah.

01:37:37.000 Got to do another three hours of radio tomorrow and actually speaking at the University of Arkansas tomorrow and then University of Auburn University.

01:37:43.000 So remember, April 12th, Boulder University.

01:37:45.000 If you guys want to come up, if you have any kids or grandkids there or nieces or nephews, make sure they come by.

01:37:50.000 Just two things that I want to leave you guys with tonight.

01:37:53.000 The first is kind of just shamelessly promotional, but it helps me and it could help you.

01:37:57.000 We do, as I mentioned, three podcasts a day, okay?

01:38:00.000 Every single one of you have a smartphone.

01:38:02.000 You have that digital pacifier in your right-hand corner.

01:38:05.000 So while you might still be using that smartphone, it would really bless me if you guys would subscribe to our podcast.

01:38:10.000 It's really simple.

01:38:11.000 Every single smartphone has a podcast app.

01:38:13.000 You just take it out, you open it up, you type in Charlie Kirk Show.

01:38:17.000 You're able to subscribe by hitting the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner.

01:38:20.000 I'm banned from Twitter.

01:38:21.000 It really helps us stay ban-proof when grassroots people rise up, take out their phone, and subscribe in real time.

01:38:28.000 You're like, Charlie, I didn't understand any of that.

01:38:31.000 You got like a five-year-old, right, that can walk them through all of that.

01:38:33.000 Absolutely.

01:38:34.000 I'm sure.

01:38:34.000 I saw a six-year-old around here somewhere that could do it.

01:38:36.000 Charlie Kirk Show, I'd be really touched if you guys could just subscribe and help us out.

01:38:42.000 It would be phenomenal.

01:38:43.000 So thank you.

01:38:44.000 The second thing is this, and the final thing, support TPUSA faith in any way you can.

01:38:49.000 Get your kids and grandkids involved, but take ownership.

01:38:52.000 Take ownership of your life.

01:38:53.000 Take ownership in the fight for freedom and liberty.

01:38:56.000 We are biblically commanded by the Lord to care about the nation we are in.

01:39:01.000 Remember, I'm involved in the second most important thing.

01:39:04.000 The most important thing is winning people for Jesus Christ.

01:39:08.000 The second most important thing is to make sure you could do the first thing.

01:39:14.000 And so if you don't focus on the second thing, we're all going to be sharing the gospel from prison.

01:39:20.000 And that's not an over-exaggeration.

01:39:22.000 Look at your grandkids and say, I want you to live in a free country.

01:39:25.000 Fight for them every single day.

01:39:27.000 Re-embrace the spirit of self-government.

01:39:29.000 We live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

01:39:32.000 It's up to us to reclaim it for liberty and righteousness.

01:39:35.000 God bless you guys.

01:39:36.000 Thank you so much.

01:39:39.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:39:41.000 Email us your thoughts.

01:39:41.000 It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:39:43.000 Thank you so much for listening.

01:39:44.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 03, 2022

What Should Men Do About the Trans Agenda? LIVE from Fervent Church

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