The Charlie Kirk Show - November 09, 2023


What Turning Point Action is Doing to Win with Tyler Bowyer and Rich Baris


Episode Stats


Length

35 minutes

Words per minute

186.673

Word count

6,546

Sentence count

534

Harmful content

Misogyny

13

sentences flagged

Toxicity

8

sentences flagged

Hate speech

2

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Tyler Boyer joins us as we talk about the disappointing election results and Rich Barris, also, what are the big takeaways? Was abortion really the big loser? We talk about it with Rich Barres.

Transcript

Transcripts from "The Charlie Kirk Show" are sourced from the Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool. Explore them interactively here.
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Tyler Boyer joins us as we talk about the disappointing election results and the RNC.
00:00:05.000 Rich Barris also, what are the big takeaways?
00:00:07.000 Was abortion really the big loser?
00:00:09.000 We talk about it with Rich Barris.
00:00:11.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast.
00:00:15.000 Open up your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk Show and get involved with TurningpointUSA at tpusa.com.
00:00:22.000 That is tpusa.com.
00:00:24.000 It's already a high school or college chapter today at tpusa.com.
00:00:29.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:30.000 Here we go.
00:00:32.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:33.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:35.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:39.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:42.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:43.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:44.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:00:51.000 Turning point USA. 0.65
00:00:52.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:01.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:05.000 Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at AndrewandTodd.com.
00:01:13.000 Tyler Boyer is with us, who runs Turning Point Action.
00:01:16.000 Tyler, you got the Suns jersey and the MAGA hat.
00:01:19.000 Yeah, this is my Hope outfit.
00:01:23.000 Oh, that's interesting.
00:01:25.000 Yeah, it's kind of two different things that are going to crescendo in 2024.
00:01:30.000 Two of the biggest alpha males that exist are Devin Booker and Donald Trump.
00:01:34.000 Is Devin Booker an alpha male?
00:01:36.000 Yeah.
00:01:36.000 Yeah, have you?
00:01:36.000 I like Devin.
00:01:38.000 I casually he's pretty alpha.
00:01:40.000 Doesn't he date Kendall Jenner?
00:01:42.000 No, they broke up.
00:01:44.000 See, I'm really behind on all this stuff.
00:01:46.000 Yeah, he's a single man.
00:01:47.000 Is Chris Paul still playing?
00:01:49.000 Yeah, for the Warriors now.
00:01:51.000 No, he got traded.
00:01:52.000 Yeah, he got traded.
00:01:53.000 See, we got Bradley Bill on our team now that replaced Chris Paul, and he's been hurt.
00:01:58.000 So Bradley Bill might be coming back to him.
00:01:59.000 Chris Paul has had one of the longest NBA careers.
00:02:01.000 It's amazing.
00:02:02.000 All right.
00:02:02.000 So, Tyler, people are mad.
00:02:04.000 People are upset and demoralized.
00:02:06.000 Yeah, I think we've seen on Twitter.
00:02:08.000 I was just telling you before the what's going on on Twitter?
00:02:10.000 I don't, I don't have Twitter extra.
00:02:13.000 And rightfully so, because it's we've got everybody is like astonished still.
00:02:21.000 This is like now like we're like four elections deep since the people started paying attention.
00:02:27.000 And now they're like astonished at how do we not have this stuff figured out.
00:02:32.000 And the RNC, you know, as a member of the RNC that represents the state of Arizona, everybody that listens to the show knows that we've been the most observant and critical of the things that the Republican atmosphere isn't doing the right way.
00:02:48.000 And that starts with the RNC.
00:02:49.000 You can't say it doesn't start with the RNC.
00:02:51.000 It has to start with the RNC.
00:02:52.000 But it's the NRSC.
00:02:54.000 It's the RGA.
00:02:55.000 It's the NRCC.
00:02:57.000 Everybody here, the major organizations that are supposed to run the party are the ones that are supposed to make sure that the techniques are in place in order to win.
00:03:05.000 And every election that goes by, people are standing by saying, how come the techniques are not ever getting developed?
00:03:13.000 And it's like waiting for the sad story of the puppy at the adoption facility who the adopter never comes, and then you end up in the grinder.
00:03:30.000 So, yeah, and let's be fair.
00:03:32.000 I mean, this is what infuriates me the most. 0.99
00:03:33.000 I mean, Rana's a loser, and we've said that. 0.99
00:03:36.000 We tried to remove her, right? 0.98
00:03:37.000 We tried our best to put Harmit in.
00:03:39.000 Well, let's get more specific.
00:03:41.000 We tried our best to persuade and make very clear.
00:03:45.000 And also, 168.
00:03:46.000 168, right?
00:03:46.000 The members of the 168, which are the, there's three members from every state and territory that represent you at the Republican National Committee.
00:03:54.000 That's who elects leadership in the RNC.
00:03:57.000 Yep.
00:03:58.000 And you can make the argument, three good people got elected.
00:04:02.000 The one person that everybody was vocally opposed to was Rana getting reelected.
00:04:08.000 Correct.
00:04:08.000 The grassroots were 98%, 99% against her.
00:04:11.000 And so guys like me showed up saying, like, look, it doesn't matter personal agendas, personal relationships aside.
00:04:19.000 Everyone outside these doors is saying that you shouldn't be the chair.
00:04:22.000 And you got to listen to that.
00:04:24.000 And part of the reason we got to listen to that is because the base is who wins elections.
00:04:28.000 The base is what make up the people who recruit people to run for office.
00:04:32.000 Small dollar donations?
00:04:33.000 Small dollar donations.
00:04:36.000 You're just the workers that go out and knock doors, that build what we call golden tickets here in Arizona, that tell people who to vote for, that show up, that manage the polls.
00:04:45.000 Yeah, they didn't want Rana.
00:04:46.000 None of them did.
00:04:47.000 And so it's like, what is the pathway?
00:04:49.000 And this was the question that I had for her, which was I talked to her on the phone a couple of times during that time period.
00:04:55.000 And I said, Rana, like, what's your pathway forward for like winning if you don't have any of those people on your team?
00:05:01.000 It doesn't make sense.
00:05:03.000 And so you have that situation.
00:05:05.000 That's part of the problem.
00:05:06.000 Part of the reason why we're not winning is that you have to have leaders who are like George Washingtonian leaders who are going to be able to ride the white horse, lead you into battle, take the first arrows.
00:05:17.000 And nobody views Mitch McConnell that way.
00:05:21.000 Nobody viewed Kevin McCarthy that way.
00:05:23.000 That's why there was such vitriol.
00:05:27.000 But most importantly, nobody views Rana that way.
00:05:31.000 They view Trump that way.
00:05:32.000 That's why Trump is winning by 50 points in primary polls.
00:05:36.000 And so it's like, how do we get an alpha leader, like we have an alpha leader running for president that everyone supports to run these things?
00:05:45.000 Why are we okay with just this subpar leadership?
00:05:50.000 Yeah.
00:05:51.000 And so, but then to add insult to injury, the RNC right now is doing what, Tyler?
00:05:55.000 Where is the RNC physically and what are they doing today?
00:05:58.000 So the RNC is kind of mad at me because I commented in a couple of different, with a couple of different journalists that called and said, hey, what are your thoughts about these debates going on?
00:06:07.000 And I said, well, I think they're kind of pointless if you don't have Donald Trump at them because Donald Trump is winning by 50 points right now.
00:06:14.000 So what's the point in still doing them?
00:06:16.000 And that's been, they've taken a few polls and you, the public, have said, we don't think that you should do any more debates.
00:06:24.000 Like these are pointless.
00:06:25.000 No one's watching them.
00:06:27.000 Oh, by the way, NBC is hosting the one tonight.
00:06:30.000 Correct.
00:06:30.000 Lester Holt and Christian Welker.
00:06:32.000 And it's like, wait, so you're going to let Libs, wait, I thought the whole, I don't know if we have time to rehash this, but the RNC pulled out of the debate committee that was this liberal control C3.
00:06:48.000 And so everyone was excited because they were like, oh, cool.
00:06:51.000 We'll have more conservative debates.
00:06:53.000 And what happens?
00:06:54.000 We're back at the table with NBC.
00:06:57.000 And so it's like, this is the reason why nobody, why would anyone trust that organization that just basically goes right back to the trough and reintroduces the same bad things that everyone hates?
00:07:10.000 And they truly don't care about pushback.
00:07:12.000 And so tonight they're hanging out with NBC, you know, cocktail hour, everything hanging out.
00:07:18.000 Like this was like another member of the RNC called me that she was astonished.
00:07:23.000 She's like, yesterday was election day.
00:07:26.000 We're getting our butts handed to us and states that we, by the way, this isn't just Kentucky that you can make the argument that is like, oh, okay, whatever, moderate Democrat being governor in Kentucky, who cares?
00:07:37.000 Well, it does matter a lot because Matt Bevan still would be governor had it not been for if the party had its priorities in the right place.
00:07:45.000 But aside from that, Pennsylvania yesterday had a Supreme Court race that would determine the future of Pennsylvania for the next decade, 12 years plus.
00:07:55.000 And so you're looking at a situation now where it's like we just lost the Supreme Court in Wisconsin because of inactivity.
00:08:01.000 Correct.
00:08:01.000 We just lost the Supreme Court in Pennsylvania yesterday because of inactivity, which is a key target state that we need to win.
00:08:08.000 And you look at this and you have to say there are fire alarms that need to be pulled.
00:08:12.000 And this is why we started doing this really a year ago after the last election said we have major problems that we saw here in Arizona.
00:08:20.000 We have major problems that we saw in Nevada, major problems that we saw in other states.
00:08:25.000 This is not the pathway forward.
00:08:26.000 The RNC raises $600 to $700 million in the election cycle.
00:08:30.000 It should.
00:08:31.000 But they're way behind pace right now, right?
00:08:34.000 They're not raising money.
00:08:35.000 From what I understand, and again, you know, my goal isn't to, you know, it's hard to raise money right now.
00:08:43.000 You know that.
00:08:43.000 We know that.
00:08:44.000 But like, this was part of the warning was if you don't, if you, if you kick the small dollar donors to the curb, how are you going to raise money?
00:08:52.000 Because look, this is how the Democrats do it.
00:08:54.000 The Democrats, you know, effectively raise all of their dollars for their party through small dollar donations.
00:08:58.000 This is where ACT Blue comes from.
00:09:01.000 This is why they instituted all that, right?
00:09:04.000 Our side Institute Win Red, which is a totally different model, for-profit model.
00:09:08.000 We can get into all that, but they're raising significantly less dollars to small dollar because of the distrust that exists with this, with the ecosystem right now.
00:09:18.000 So this is part of the warning.
00:09:20.000 And now we're looking at this and the RNC is way, way underfunded for this next election.
00:09:26.000 But people don't trust them.
00:09:27.000 And that's not going to change.
00:09:28.000 Yeah, but nobody's talking about this.
00:09:30.000 Nobody's talking about how little money that the RNC has.
00:09:33.000 So a lot of people are, what they're allowing is for these state parties to suffer.
00:09:37.000 So they're going, oh, Arizona, you've seen the headlines in the Arizona Republic.
00:09:41.000 The AZGOP has no money.
00:09:42.000 Well, it's not just the AZGOP.
00:09:44.000 It's all of these state parties have no money, except for Florida and Ohio that have had 40 years of fundraising prowess.
00:09:54.000 Yeah, we got to keep talking about this.
00:09:56.000 It's a huge problem.
00:09:56.000 But rest assured, everybody, we got clobbered yesterday, but the RNC, they got NDC news tonight.
00:10:03.000 How does that make you feel?
00:10:04.000 NDC, Lester Holt, Kristen Wilker.
00:10:08.000 Strong Cell is amazing.
00:10:10.000 I got to tell you, the combination of NADH, CoQ10, and collagen is really something.
00:10:15.000 You know, people ask me, they say, Charlie, how do you keep your energy up?
00:10:18.000 How do you just keep on pushing?
00:10:20.000 Look, part of it is diet nutrition, but I'll be honest, I take supplements really seriously.
00:10:26.000 Fact check me on this.
00:10:27.000 You can say, oh, Charlie, I'm going to fact-check you.
00:10:28.000 Type this into your search engine.
00:10:30.000 NADH.
00:10:33.000 Just type it in.
00:10:34.000 What does it tell you?
00:10:35.000 It might tell you that it is the secret to living long, anti-aging properties, more energy.
00:10:40.000 Well, all of that is being proven in more and more clinical trials.
00:10:43.000 NADH is a precursor so that your mitochondria can remain healthy and vibrant.
00:10:49.000 The elites, a lot of billionaires, people, a lot of money, they spend a ton of money on NAD.
00:10:53.000 It's a fact.
00:10:54.000 NAD just might be your secret weapon for more energy.
00:10:57.000 I take NAD every single day.
00:11:00.000 I could tell you that NADH compared with CoQ10, the trials show very, very good things on it.
00:11:05.000 Don't take my word for it.
00:11:06.000 I mean, honestly, my word should be good for something, but fact check me.
00:11:10.000 Look at it.
00:11:11.000 And if you do it over 30 days, you'll see an increase in energy.
00:11:13.000 I wake up better than ever before.
00:11:15.000 NAD can help you potentially, again, fact check me on this with depression, anxiety, other issues that you might be dealing with.
00:11:22.000 It is nature's gift to you so you might have extra energy and mental clarity.
00:11:28.000 You guys can use promo code Charlie for 20% off.
00:11:30.000 It's strongsell.com slash Charlie.
00:11:33.000 NAD might be nature's secret weapon for you.
00:11:38.000 I love it.
00:11:38.000 I take it every single day.
00:11:40.000 Try to try it for at least 30 days to see the maximum benefit.
00:11:44.000 And let me know, has NAD helped your life?
00:11:46.000 Strongsell.com slash Charlie.
00:11:48.000 Check it out.
00:11:48.000 Strongsell.com slash Charlie.
00:11:53.000 Tyler, what are we doing at Turning Point Action?
00:11:55.000 Let's fill our audience and we've committed to doing something.
00:12:00.000 We want to do even more than something.
00:12:02.000 Tell our audience right now, we're doing something unprecedented.
00:12:04.000 So there is good news from this week, and you don't see this stuff that's happening necessarily, but we've partnered with a number of different organizations that Turning Point Action works with.
00:12:17.000 So first off, Turning Point Action is the largest field staff in the conservative.
00:12:20.000 It's not even close.
00:12:21.000 By the way, just so we're clear, how many full-time staff does RNC have in Arizona?
00:12:24.000 We have, they just barely hired their first person. 0.99
00:12:27.000 Really, poor soul.
00:12:28.000 How about Wisconsin?
00:12:29.000 Wisconsin, they have basically no one on the ground.
00:12:32.000 That's not helping with the convention.
00:12:33.000 How many, just Turning Point Action?
00:12:35.000 We have 45, 50 full-time staff here at Turnpoint Action?
00:12:38.000 So we have, so we have the largest field staff in all of the key target states.
00:12:44.000 You might call them swing states.
00:12:47.000 We have about 55 full-time people right now.
00:12:50.000 And that's going to grow significantly.
00:12:51.000 Well, that's just our legacy supporting the volunteers, supporting the grassroots.
00:12:56.000 So they're at every legislative district meeting, every congressional district meeting, every county meeting.
00:13:00.000 The payroll, that's $3 to $4 million a year.
00:13:02.000 The RNC, 100%, could be doing that.
00:13:04.000 Yeah, and they haven't.
00:13:05.000 They raised $700 million, but the RNC hates the grassroots.
00:13:08.000 They hate you.
00:13:08.000 Sorry, keep going.
00:13:09.000 Well, and that's what's been the frustrating part: hey, the left has an infrastructure of 100 organizations in most of these key target states that all have three to four full-time employees, a minimum, and then they ratchet it up for ballot chasing.
00:13:24.000 So that's what we're doing, right?
00:13:26.000 We're modeling ourselves after like, it's not, it's like a football team.
00:13:29.000 So the best comparison is a sports analogy, which is right now, what the Republican National Committee and what I call the Republican National Apparatus is doing is they're sending a high school team, volunteer high school team, up against an NFL team and expecting to win.
00:13:45.000 They have professionals that are sanctioned.
00:13:48.000 They're there, being paid really great salaries to be there and be on guard.
00:13:52.000 Our team is basically just like, oh, yeah, we'll just throw a team together and hope to win.
00:13:57.000 And that's nice.
00:13:58.000 It worked in the mighty ducks, you know, one time, you know, but it's not going to work year in and year out.
00:14:03.000 And that's part of the reason why we're losing is we need full-time people.
00:14:06.000 So the only way that you can do that is if you've built an actual team on the ground in these states that you need to win.
00:14:12.000 So in Arizona and Wisconsin, we've put full-time staff.
00:14:16.000 We'll have upwards of 20 full-time staff just helping and assisting and coordinating volunteers.
00:14:22.000 And they're going to be aiding us and building our full-time army where we're going to have hundreds of full-time people paid to go chase ballots.
00:14:30.000 And that's not just in the last month before elections.
00:14:33.000 We're talking like those people are starting now and they're going to be going heavy right around Christmas time and following the new year, building relationships in these key communities with the people who don't typically vote.
00:14:44.000 Low propensity.
00:14:45.000 Low propensity.
00:14:46.000 That's a term that if you're not familiar with it, what that means is people who do not frequently vote.
00:14:51.000 Yeah, so think about a construction worker that maybe voted for Trump in 20 and he didn't vote in 16.
00:14:57.000 And he's 38.
00:14:59.000 He kind of ticked off at the world, right?
00:15:02.000 Muscular class guy.
00:15:03.000 We need to find him and get him to vote.
00:15:05.000 Make sure he votes.
00:15:06.000 Yeah, because that may be the only election.
00:15:08.000 And there's a lot of people who, the only election they ever voted in was 16.
00:15:11.000 Yes.
00:15:12.000 The only election they ever voted in was 20.
00:15:13.000 We need to find those people.
00:15:14.000 Or they didn't vote in those at all.
00:15:16.000 And this is Trump's superpower, is he brings out these low-prop voters and they're willing to engage.
00:15:22.000 He's done a better job of bringing out low-propensity voters than any candidate ever in the history of America.
00:15:26.000 Yes, that's correct.
00:15:27.000 And this is what's so crazy is that the Democrats go, oh, okay.
00:15:32.000 By necessity, they've said, okay, we have to build this full-time army to keep up with Trump, basically, and win.
00:15:40.000 And this is, it's very simple math, guys.
00:15:42.000 You don't have to win the whole country.
00:15:43.000 This is what Democrats have figured out.
00:15:45.000 You just have to win.
00:15:47.000 We've isolated.
00:15:48.000 It's really about eight to 10 key target counties within Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia.
00:15:55.000 And America County is the biggest.
00:15:57.000 Yeah, and we're in the neighborhood that matters, which is right near South Mountain.
00:16:00.000 This literally used to be a Republican area, Guadalupe, South Mountain.
00:16:04.000 This is your, you know, you talked about the I-4 corridor in Florida forever, the Scottsdale-Tempe corridor.
00:16:10.000 It's that arrow that went up the Tomahawk.
00:16:13.000 That's it.
00:16:13.000 Yeah, this is the corridor that helps flip elections for the entire country.
00:16:18.000 And so this is where Republicans have to have this understanding and come in and go, okay, what do we have to do to win these places?
00:16:24.000 Well, you have to isolate these key target precincts and you have to talk to not just high-propensity voters, not mid-voters, but you have to talk to people who never vote.
00:16:33.000 That's what Democrats are getting out.
00:16:35.000 That's who they're getting out.
00:16:36.000 So what does it take to get those low-propensity voters out? 0.92
00:16:39.000 Well, it takes white glove treatment. 0.86
00:16:41.000 And it requires a full-time army there. 0.99
00:16:41.000 Yep. 0.99
00:16:43.000 So just really quick, is it possible to remove Rana?
00:16:46.000 So a lot of people have asked that question today.
00:16:48.000 I've had probably a thousand messages in my DMs and emails and everything else.
00:16:53.000 The only way that Rana can be replaced is at an official election that is proposed by the members of the 168.
00:17:01.000 And they're not going to do that before January 2025.
00:17:04.000 Oh, okay.
00:17:05.000 They're just not going to.
00:17:06.000 But she can resign. 0.71
00:17:07.000 She could resign. 1.00
00:17:08.000 She could resign. 1.00
00:17:09.000 She's probably not going to. 0.98
00:17:11.000 Trump should call for her resignation.
00:17:15.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:17:16.000 Do you know that the average American spends about 20 years in retirement?
00:17:19.000 That's a long time to live without a steady income.
00:17:21.000 We want to make sure you enjoy every moment of it and don't outlive your money.
00:17:24.000 Retirement is about more than just investments.
00:17:26.000 It's about living your best life.
00:17:28.000 Let's not retire.
00:17:29.000 Let's pivot.
00:17:30.000 My friends at PAX Financial Group developed a course for the sole purpose of helping you pivot.
00:17:36.000 If you want your own free guide of pivoting into the next chapter of life with purpose, visit paxfg.com slash Charlie.
00:17:45.000 That is paxfg.com slash Charlie.
00:17:48.000 I have some of my money managed by PAX Financial.
00:17:52.000 They do a wonderful job.
00:17:54.000 And remember, retirement is about more than just investments.
00:17:57.000 The Charlie Kirk endorsement of the PAX Financial Group LLC was given for compensation, which creates an incentive to recommend PAX's advisory services.
00:18:06.000 Need to make sure that disclaimer is very clear.
00:18:08.000 So check it out.
00:18:09.000 PAXFG.com slash Charlie.
00:18:13.000 Joining us now is Rich Barris, big data poll.
00:18:16.000 Rich, thanks for taking the time.
00:18:19.000 Rich?
00:18:19.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie, as always.
00:18:21.000 What was the good news last night?
00:18:23.000 You have to go through.
00:18:24.000 What was the best piece of news yesterday?
00:18:27.000 Well, I mean, Reeves held on in Mississippi, which was that if you were to do that.
00:18:33.000 Yeah, no, you know, no, seriously, we have to, I found this out recently that there was a danger apparently within the last two weeks or so that they worried he could fall within runoff territory.
00:18:43.000 And he didn't do that.
00:18:45.000 Look, the good news, honestly, you want the hard truth.
00:18:49.000 The good news is that I still see the Trump voters, the Trump strength, because I can see them like a astrophysicist can measure dark matter.
00:18:59.000 You measure them by the absence of them not being there, you know, by their lack of presence.
00:19:05.000 So when I look ahead to 2024, the good news is when we're polling the presidential race a year from now and then comparing how he is doing to everybody else, everyone else is coming in when the votes come rolling in.
00:19:20.000 Everyone else is coming in about where expected, which tells us that his strength on the top of the ticket is real.
00:19:25.000 That's honestly, if you're looking for good news and you're a Republican voter, that's it.
00:19:29.000 Okay.
00:19:30.000 So now let's proceed.
00:19:32.000 Virginia, what was the big takeaway there?
00:19:34.000 The talking point of the media, which might be true, is abortion killed us.
00:19:39.000 Is that right?
00:19:40.000 Public opinion isn't the issue with abortion.
00:19:43.000 The issue is that Republican voters aren't motivated or voters who agree with Republicans are not motivated at the same rates that Democrats are.
00:19:52.000 And you know this, Charlie.
00:19:54.000 I don't have to tell you this.
00:19:55.000 It's also a big part organization.
00:19:57.000 They're way ahead of Republicans.
00:19:59.000 And even though they're looking at a smaller group of people, they're getting those people out where Republicans just are not.
00:20:07.000 And you look at the race that includes Loudoun County, Segura, right?
00:20:12.000 That probably hurt him there without a doubt.
00:20:14.000 But when all is said and done, he's still, and he's no MAGA bomb thrower.
00:20:20.000 He did not perform in Loudoun County the way that people who make the case for that kind of candidate said that they would perform.
00:20:27.000 Same thing with Hung Cow, kind of in that region as well.
00:20:30.000 They underperformed badly in Virginia as far as the expectations they set for themselves.
00:20:35.000 If you look around the map and have a real reality check with how blue Virginia really is now, I mean, it's not really a swing state anymore.
00:20:44.000 It's a blue state that can be won under the right conditions for a Republican.
00:20:48.000 And if you look around the map, it's not awful, but it's awful compared to the expectations they set and Yunkin set and the donors who wanted to put Yunkin into the presidential race that he set.
00:21:01.000 But Owen and the Gibson race, the Owen v. Gibson race, I mean, come on, Charlie, Owen should have put Gibson away.
00:21:08.000 And she still won in Rico County by a couple of points.
00:21:12.000 And that's to me, you know, tells you, again, it's a turnout disparity.
00:21:17.000 And by the way, Republicans, but this turnout on election day idea, Democrats turned out on election day.
00:21:23.000 So you cannot always count on this massive disparity that's going to put you over the top on election day.
00:21:29.000 Democrats obviously didn't vote as much, Charlie, as Republicans, but they voted enough and they did what they had to do.
00:21:36.000 So if there is general president, let me just going into next November, let's say that there is massive turnout, like 2020-style turnout, even a little bit less.
00:21:47.000 It's going to be hard to reach 2020.
00:21:49.000 It just is.
00:21:50.000 Let's say that it's 80% or 85% of 2020.
00:21:53.000 Does abortion become less of an issue because there is such high turnout, therefore the enthusiasm gap narrows?
00:22:02.000 Yeah, I mean, it depends.
00:22:03.000 If you're looking at the presidential race, I honestly don't think it hurts Trump as much as it hurts other Republicans.
00:22:09.000 He's distinguished himself differently on this issue.
00:22:12.000 He just two months ago, a month and a half ago, was telling other Republicans in the nomination contest: you don't know how to talk about abortion.
00:22:19.000 You're trying to win Iowa and you're making yourself unelectable.
00:22:22.000 And they attacked him for it in an effort to try to win that caucus.
00:22:28.000 So the answer to that really is it depends who the nominee is.
00:22:30.000 It's most certainly going to be Donald Trump, but in the off chance, they figure some way to keep this guy away from being the Republican nominee.
00:22:38.000 Most of the Republican candidates effectively have killed themselves already, Charlie.
00:22:42.000 If you're looking and you're a believer in the abortion argument, or at the very least, and I'm not, I just think that what is happening is that Democrats are getting their abortion voters out the way Republicans used to in like 04, for instance.
00:22:56.000 They had an advantage doing that.
00:22:59.000 And Democrats have that advantage now.
00:23:01.000 But if that argument turns out to be right and Ron DeSantis, for instance, is the nominee, he's done.
00:23:09.000 He's going to lose every battleground state.
00:23:11.000 I mean, a six-week abortion ban is going to kill him.
00:23:13.000 He's not even going to carry Iowa in a general election.
00:23:15.000 I'm telling you, I'm just being very real with everybody.
00:23:18.000 It's going to be ugly.
00:23:19.000 I don't care how close the polling looks. 0.75
00:23:21.000 It'll be ugly.
00:23:22.000 So then let's go to Kentucky.
00:23:24.000 What was the big takeaway in Kentucky?
00:23:26.000 It's perplexing to our audience how a state that went 75% for Donald Trump, 75%, could re-elect a Democrat governor given all the nonsense Democrats are facing right now.
00:23:38.000 Some of this, you know, it's going to hurt people's feelings, but I don't really care.
00:23:42.000 The reality on the one hand is that Kentucky elected two Republicans in the last 50 years, half century.
00:23:47.000 They have elected Democratic governors for a long time.
00:23:50.000 And Andy Bashir is the most popular red state Democratic governor in the country.
00:23:55.000 Cameron cut into some of that in the last couple of weeks by tying himself to Trump.
00:24:00.000 Those mailers, definitely, we know we spoke to voters about that.
00:24:04.000 The mailers, you know, helped and hurt his approval rating a little bit and probably tightened the race a little bit.
00:24:10.000 But I think there's a few things going on there.
00:24:13.000 He did not perform well in the eastern ancestral Democratic counties that are like white Southern Democrats, still registered as Democrats who vote Republican at the presidential level.
00:24:22.000 I think that's an issue.
00:24:24.000 But also, there's no way to get around this.
00:24:27.000 He had no help.
00:24:29.000 This is something that really needs to be discussed.
00:24:31.000 Republican donors, for the most part, and you know, you talk to them too, they have been spending money on either one of two things: independent groups that are trying to get out the vote, um, or some core issues that they personally care about.
00:24:45.000 And then the Republican primary to stop Donald Trump: $100 million to Team DeSantis.
00:24:50.000 Kim Reynolds endorsed him the other day.
00:24:52.000 It is literally Kim Reynolds's job to get Republicans elected governor.
00:24:56.000 And he got outspent 17 million to four.
00:25:00.000 So she did nothing to help him.
00:25:02.000 Same story in 22, where Ducey was the head.
00:25:05.000 He promised Carrie Lake at least $7 mil.
00:25:08.000 He gave her nothing.
00:25:09.000 Tim Michaels, he told to self-fun.
00:25:11.000 Doug Mastriano, him and the rickets said, you know what?
00:25:15.000 You're too MAGA for us.
00:25:16.000 You're a nice guy, but you're not our kind of guy. 1.00
00:25:18.000 The RGA is useless.
00:25:21.000 And until Republicans start punishing these people who are in charge, like listening to your show earlier about Rona, with the exception of Kevin McCarthy, basically all of the players who blew 22 are still in place, Charlie.
00:25:35.000 So I don't know how anyone else expects a different result.
00:25:38.000 I know that Kentucky is difficult for a Republican, especially with a popular Democratic governor, even though it's a red state, it is not at the state level.
00:25:46.000 I know that it's a difficult one, but Cameron should have won that race.
00:25:50.000 He should have had more help.
00:25:50.000 He should have.
00:25:52.000 He didn't get any help.
00:25:53.000 Same thing, Ditto, by the way, in Pennsylvania.
00:25:56.000 I've gotten blown up, nothing but activists, just furious.
00:26:00.000 No help at all.
00:26:01.000 Bucks County was a total disaster.
00:26:03.000 Republicans were routed up and down the ticket.
00:26:05.000 And there was one donor who came in to try to help them.
00:26:08.000 They have been holding the line against extremism, especially social stuff in our schools, for a very long time.
00:26:16.000 And they did it without any fanfare or anyone, you know, any looking for anyone to pat them on the back for it.
00:26:21.000 They just did it.
00:26:22.000 And now they got blown out.
00:26:24.000 So literally, radicals will be running that board moving forward.
00:26:29.000 And all these donors seem to care about is stopping the man who has a majority support beyond majority.
00:26:35.000 In some polls, it's a super majority, Charlie.
00:26:38.000 And more than that, have a positive view of him.
00:26:42.000 They adore him.
00:26:43.000 And literally, the rest of the party is relying on him going to jail to beat him.
00:26:49.000 If you don't think that's going to have some kind of voter blowback, you live in another world. 0.99
00:26:53.000 Voters aren't stupid. 0.99
00:26:55.000 They're not dumb. 0.95
00:26:57.000 And they basically said, I think a big takeaway from last night is that voters told the Republican Party they have not earned their vote. 0.90
00:27:04.000 It's not worth getting up, going out to go vote for you.
00:27:06.000 You don't do what you say.
00:27:08.000 You don't defend us.
00:27:09.000 We don't trust you.
00:27:11.000 And that's it.
00:27:12.000 Ohio was Biden plus two, Charlie.
00:27:14.000 The electorate.
00:27:16.000 Ohio, I mean, Trump won it twice by almost 10 points, but the exit polls last night showed that the electorate was actually when you asked who did you vote for?
00:27:24.000 It was Biden plus two.
00:27:27.000 That's how bad turnout was in some of these Trump areas.
00:27:30.000 And can't imagine why.
00:27:31.000 So the RNC is one of the things that they are tasked with is having accurate, actionable data, being a central hub to be able to find out, you know, where our turnout problems and issues are.
00:27:44.000 And, you know, just so we're clear, not a soul from the Republican establishment reached out to turning point action and our hundreds of thousands of activists, Rich, because they hate us.
00:27:55.000 And look, I mean, we're doing our best here.
00:27:57.000 We're trying to hire, you know, hundreds of people.
00:27:59.000 We're raising millions for ballot chasing.
00:28:01.000 I'm going to campuses.
00:28:02.000 We're doing three hours.
00:28:03.000 You know, we only got so much we can do.
00:28:05.000 But, you know, maybe 90 days ago, I would have checked all, I would have put, I mean this, I would have put all of my criticism aside of Rana Mick Romney.
00:28:14.000 And if she wanted to do a, you know, a conference call, let's get on the same page.
00:28:18.000 Let's do this. 0.62
00:28:19.000 Let bygones be bygones and bury the hatchet.
00:28:22.000 I would have said, you know what?
00:28:23.000 Good on you.
00:28:23.000 Let's go win.
00:28:24.000 That's what leaders do.
00:28:26.000 But it's silence.
00:28:27.000 It's nothing.
00:28:28.000 So, Rich, this is a speculative question.
00:28:32.000 And you're a very objective guy, but I'm going to ask it anyway.
00:28:35.000 Do these people want to win?
00:28:39.000 Poor Scott Pressler out there, right?
00:28:42.000 Doing everything he can in Allegheny, doing everything he can in Beaver County, running around Pennsylvania, still hasn't gotten a call back.
00:28:49.000 He's literally, you know, there are people out there that are just saying, hey, Scott, you're coming out here to help.
00:28:53.000 You can sleep on my couch.
00:28:54.000 I mean, he's not looking to get rich, but a little support and a little collaboration with one of the people.
00:29:00.000 Turning point is another great example.
00:29:02.000 You guys have bodies.
00:29:04.000 You have people.
00:29:05.000 Why on earth would she want to centralize?
00:29:09.000 I'm not sure winning is her priority.
00:29:12.000 And she came in.
00:29:14.000 If people remember, she came in after Ryan's prebus.
00:29:17.000 It was in shambles.
00:29:18.000 The RNC was in shambles, but it was broke.
00:29:20.000 And everyone gave her accolades because she was a prolific fundraiser.
00:29:25.000 Well, now they're not.
00:29:26.000 They don't know the coattails of Trump, an incumbent popular president.
00:29:29.000 Let's be honest.
00:29:30.000 Come on.
00:29:31.000 Michigan, right?
00:29:32.000 She came out of Michigan.
00:29:33.000 Yeah.
00:29:34.000 And billion dollars later, a permanent data operation, so-called permanent data operation later, and it's worthless.
00:29:41.000 And she's left to chase the next best thing.
00:29:43.000 And I do have insight into some of the new projects, but they're not even harnessing it, Charlie.
00:29:48.000 They don't know what they're doing.
00:29:49.000 Their project is NBC debates.
00:29:52.000 I'm telling you, if you advertisement.
00:29:55.000 Tomorrow morning, the base is going to be Blitz and Mad because you're going to have all these clips going viral of Lester Holt and Welker going after our candidates.
00:30:05.000 So tell me, Chris Christie, would you ban birth control?
00:30:08.000 Have you ever used birth control, Chris?
00:30:09.000 I mean, it's like the most weird questions, right?
00:30:12.000 And that's what we have to spend our money on.
00:30:14.000 It's insulting.
00:30:17.000 There really is no plan, Rich.
00:30:19.000 There's some very sophisticated technology out there that the left is using against us, micro-targeted advertisement, personalized political messaging.
00:30:27.000 There is nothing of the sort that is happening on the right from GO TV to text messaging to any of that, from using artificial intelligence.
00:30:35.000 The RNC and the Republican establishment, I believe, wants to lose.
00:30:39.000 They're comfortable losing.
00:30:40.000 They want to be controlled opposition.
00:30:41.000 Rich, talk about the exciting new technologies on the horizon broadly.
00:30:45.000 You can get specific if you want, that the right refuses to use.
00:30:49.000 Yeah, I'm telling you, Charlie, this year is going to revolutionize how campaigning is even done.
00:30:54.000 The AI that you just brought up, they're thinking of it too as a way to implement or make texting easier when the left basically did that beta testing it back in 22.
00:31:05.000 And I know that because we were involved in this.
00:31:07.000 It's been a little over a year now, and the RNC did have an ear into it.
00:31:11.000 They had a seat at the table, but they don't seem to be comprehending the power of this technology.
00:31:18.000 I mean, it essentially, Charlie, is having a thousand volunteers with one agent who knows how to work the AI.
00:31:25.000 It's the power of a thousand volunteers.
00:31:27.000 And they just kind of, oh, you know, that'll help us send out text messages and send back a generic reply.
00:31:32.000 Meanwhile, this thing augments with the database, whatever database you're using, L2 or Aristotle, and then profiles people based on their attributes and responses.
00:31:42.000 It engages, it engages with them like a human being.
00:31:45.000 It sounds like me.
00:31:47.000 So it went through all of my interviews that I'll do with voters and some of our employees.
00:31:52.000 It sounds just like them.
00:31:53.000 It's incredible.
00:31:54.000 And it's like a mimic.
00:31:56.000 I don't know how else to put it.
00:31:58.000 They don't get that.
00:31:58.000 And Democrats, I didn't know it.
00:32:00.000 You didn't know it at the time.
00:32:01.000 Democrats were beta testing some of that in 22.
00:32:04.000 And now that they're full-blown, they're off to the races with it.
00:32:07.000 And the RNC is way behind.
00:32:10.000 So, and the problem is, I find it funny, Charlie, that they're so big on centralization because the left isn't.
00:32:16.000 You know, you've been doing your best as well.
00:32:19.000 You're out there raising money.
00:32:20.000 You're trying to get people to do harvesting operations.
00:32:23.000 And the left is doing it more of a model like you, where it's third-party groups.
00:32:29.000 The DNC does not hog all of the donors and then figure out where that money's going and to whom it's going to, what consultants. 1.00
00:32:35.000 That's what Rona's doing over there.
00:32:37.000 So even if somebody were to develop something like this and it's out there now, and somebody else knew how to work it better and knew how to apply it better, you would never know because the RNC has everything centralized.
00:32:50.000 And if it's not one of their people, it'll never make its way there anyway. 0.94
00:32:54.000 Democrats don't do that.
00:32:56.000 Democrats have third-party groups operating independently of each other, but they don't step on each other's toes.
00:33:01.000 And they all are basically working together as like one cog in a very large machine.
00:33:07.000 And it's ironic because Republicans are the ones who don't believe in centralized government, yet they centralize their political machine, right?
00:33:14.000 And Democrats believe in centralized government, but their machine or at least their infrastructure to get out the vote is not centralized at all.
00:33:21.000 So very interesting.
00:33:22.000 And by the way, donors, they're just easier to convince.
00:33:25.000 They'll get their checkbook out for the left, no problem for this stuff that's not sexy, Charlie, but wins elections.
00:33:31.000 And Republicans are still, let me figure out how to cut this cool lad and try to persuade a voter.
00:33:36.000 They're just way behind, brother.
00:33:38.000 That's the reality.
00:33:39.000 If we don't have the machinery, how do we win in a year from now?
00:33:42.000 Well, this is the thing.
00:33:44.000 There still is this guy named Donald Trump out there who turns out voters.
00:33:48.000 Look at Ohio is a great example.
00:33:50.000 Look at Pennsylvania.
00:33:52.000 Carluccio actually won Erie but lost.
00:33:54.000 The reason is she just didn't get the juice out of all those red counties that somebody like Donald Trump and only Donald Trump has been able to do in the modern era.
00:34:03.000 And this is why Republicans have to pull their heads out of their you know what's because win or lose, he won't be around forever, right?
00:34:10.000 What are they going to do when he's gone?
00:34:12.000 The blame Trump argument is so intellectually lazy and it's intellectually exhausted.
00:34:18.000 It's like people who make this argument are just exhausted in their mind.
00:34:22.000 They don't have any answers and they don't have any way to where to go.
00:34:26.000 You know, Trump is a turnout driver and that's something that obviously he's proven not once, but twice.
00:34:32.000 But you need still organization and you need a plan for when he's gone.
00:34:37.000 Democrats are not going to go down easy, folks.
00:34:39.000 All these polls out there, that's great, but they're not going down easy, Charlie.
00:34:44.000 And people better realize their best shot is with this guy.
00:34:47.000 He'll be gone soon.
00:34:48.000 Rich Barris, thanks so much.
00:34:50.000 Excellent job.
00:34:50.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:52.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:54.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:34:56.000 God bless.
00:35:00.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.