The Charlie Kirk Show


When God Speaks, Listen: An American Success Story ft. Ben and Corley Spell


Summary

Ben and Corley Spell, founders of GoodRanchers, join me to talk about their story of faith and healing, and how God gave them the idea to start a chicken and beef burger delivery company. God bless!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
00:00:03.000 A very powerful and spiritual conversation with my friends, The Spells, and they run Good Ranchers.
00:00:10.000 You guys should check out Good Ranchers.
00:00:11.000 By the way, it's GoodRanchers.com, promo code CHARLIE.
00:00:14.000 They have these unbelievable, by the way, seed oil-free chicken nuggets.
00:00:18.000 We cannot order them fast enough.
00:00:21.000 The velocity of which they go through them in our house, we have to just keep on calling the Good Ranchers people, like, we need more, we need more, we need more.
00:00:27.000 But this conversation is actually very little about Good Ranchers and their amazing chicken nuggets and their amazing Wagyu beef burgers and their incredible filet mignon.
00:00:34.000 Delivers straight to your door.
00:00:35.000 It's actually not about that.
00:00:36.000 It's a story of faith and healing and how Corley was diagnosed with something very brutal and potentially tragic, and she trusted God, not her doctors.
00:00:50.000 This might speak to some of you in this audience.
00:00:52.000 I was captivated by it.
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00:02:18.000 Okay, everybody, here for a very special conversation.
00:02:20.000 Two friends of mine I haven't seen for quite a while.
00:02:22.000 Ben and Corley Spell from GoodRanchers.com.
00:02:26.000 And we're going to talk all about Good Ranchers this entire hour.
00:02:29.000 But first, I want to say welcome, guys, to the program.
00:02:31.000 Thank you.
00:02:32.000 We're so glad to be here.
00:02:34.000 So God has really been present throughout this entire company and this journey.
00:02:40.000 And if I understand correctly, Ben, you heard from the Lord to start this company in the first place.
00:02:44.000 Is that right?
00:02:45.000 That's right, yeah.
00:02:46.000 Yeah, I was a worship pastor at a large church in Houston, and I started getting just this pull on my heart to do something else.
00:02:57.000 I love ministry, I love music, and I loved working at the church.
00:03:02.000 I did it from the time I was 19 into my mid-30s, and I started feeling...
00:03:12.000 I just started thinking I wanted to do something else so I didn't have to take a paycheck from the church.
00:03:16.000 That's what I thought I was looking for, was make a side hustle, even though that wasn't a term.
00:03:23.000 It's very much a term now.
00:03:24.000 So I thought, well, what could I do on the side to supplement my income to where I could maybe just volunteer for the church?
00:03:33.000 Again, not that it's wrong to get paid by church.
00:03:34.000 It's a real job.
00:03:35.000 I have a lot of pastor friends and stuff.
00:03:39.000 Watching a lot of Shark Tank and getting different ideas and things and started having this idea of a meat company and started kind of telling...
00:03:50.000 I remember the first time I told Coralie, man, somebody should do this, this, this, and this.
00:03:55.000 And even though I was praying for those ideas and praying for God to give me something else, the first time it came, you know, clueless man, I am.
00:04:05.000 I didn't even...
00:04:06.000 It didn't even register for a second that that was something that we should do or something that was for me.
00:04:12.000 And so I remember sitting at dinner with Corley saying, you know what?
00:04:15.000 I bet if somebody were to do this, this, this, and this, they could be pretty successful.
00:04:20.000 And then we just didn't think much of it.
00:04:22.000 And over the course of about a year, every three or four months, I would have these ideas of starting a meat company, which I knew nothing about meat, nothing about agriculture.
00:04:36.000 We had no money.
00:04:39.000 And at the point where we finally said, where we finally listened and went and went and did it, we had just had our first baby boy.
00:04:50.000 This was at the end of 2017.
00:04:52.000 And I was getting ready.
00:04:54.000 It was a Sunday morning.
00:04:56.000 I was getting ready for church.
00:04:58.000 And all of a sudden I started having these thoughts of this meat company.
00:05:05.000 I always say that God told me to start a meat company, but what the words I actually heard in my head were, you do it.
00:05:10.000 And it struck me to my core.
00:05:12.000 And I'm not, I want to be the first one to say, like, I'm not this, like, God goes around talking to me type person.
00:05:19.000 Yeah, yeah, that's, you know, what parking spot to get or kind of things like that.
00:05:24.000 But I say it with a lot of conviction because...
00:05:26.000 It wasn't an audible, heavens open up, you know, I'll go start a meat company.
00:05:31.000 It was just, you do it, and it just struck me to my core.
00:05:34.000 And so I came out of the room, and I went over to Coralie, and I said, God just told me to start a meat company.
00:05:42.000 Again, we had a three-month-old baby boy.
00:05:44.000 I was expecting her to look at me and say, what are you talking about?
00:05:49.000 We don't have any money.
00:05:50.000 We don't know anything about meat.
00:05:53.000 We don't know anything about running the business.
00:05:56.000 And instead, she looked back at me and she said, if you heard God, then I trust you.
00:06:00.000 And was that an audible here?
00:06:03.000 No, like I said, it was not audible.
00:06:05.000 It just was in my spirit, loud and clear.
00:06:11.000 You do it.
00:06:12.000 And so she said, if you heard God, then I trust you.
00:06:16.000 So we did just that.
00:06:20.000 We went out.
00:06:20.000 I didn't know anything about anything.
00:06:23.000 Selling meat out of the back of a truck in a parking lot in Waco, Texas.
00:06:27.000 The side hustle began.
00:06:28.000 The side hustle began, yeah.
00:06:31.000 And went from one truck to two trucks to three trucks to four trucks.
00:06:34.000 And then that was in 2018.
00:06:36.000 And we were really blessed.
00:06:37.000 We were really blessed right off the bat with people showing up and stuff.
00:06:43.000 And then I have a very curious nature about myself.
00:06:50.000 If I'm going to do something, I really want to study and learn and learn everything.
00:06:55.000 I'm very competitive, so if I want to do it, I want to do it right.
00:06:59.000 So I started reading and studying and reading and studying about agriculture and about meat.
00:07:05.000 And in 2019, we realized that there's no country of origin labeling law, which we talk about it all the time.
00:07:11.000 We're going to talk about that more.
00:07:12.000 Yeah, for beef or for pork in the U.S. And we went, whoa, that's not cool.
00:07:19.000 And then lo and behold, we looked at all the stuff that we were buying at that time, and almost all of it was imported, even though it was USDA inspected, product of USA, and those things.
00:07:33.000 And so going into 2020, we made some new connections.
00:07:39.000 Supplier connections and drew a line in the sand and said, you know what, we're only going to source American-born, raised and harvested meat, which is actually harder than you would think.
00:07:49.000 And so we went into 2020 with setting up for that goal, still selling meat out of the back of trucks.
00:07:58.000 COVID happened that year, which was really crazy.
00:08:03.000 We've realized we've got to get online.
00:08:05.000 Which we were kind of, you know, in the future, that'll be there one day.
00:08:09.000 But, yeah, we...
00:08:13.000 When you say you were selling meat at a back of church, what do you mean by that?
00:08:16.000 Right?
00:08:17.000 What does that mean?
00:08:18.000 Yeah, I know.
00:08:19.000 I was buying, like, just prepackaged boxed beef from, like, a broker.
00:08:25.000 There's people that still do this.
00:08:28.000 Once COVID happened...
00:08:30.000 People started coming out of the woodworks doing that sort of business model.
00:08:35.000 It's kind of existed for a long time in small towns.
00:08:39.000 And so we used that model to build the brand and grow.
00:08:45.000 And that was the idea I originally had.
00:08:47.000 I saw people doing that and I thought, man, I bet you could actually...
00:08:50.000 Because by and large, almost everyone, I don't want to say everyone, but almost everyone doing that model is selling...
00:08:58.000 Really, really, really poor quality and just lying about it because, you know, they can.
00:09:04.000 It's kind of fly-by-night, shady kind of deal.
00:09:07.000 So we set out, let's do that, but build a brand around it.
00:09:13.000 Let's sell quality.
00:09:14.000 Let's source quality.
00:09:15.000 The thing is, we didn't know how to do that originally, and that was the thing we had to learn how to do.
00:09:20.000 And so once we realized that...
00:09:25.000 The country of origin labeling law was such a thing, and we realized that there were so many marketing terms that didn't mean anything.
00:09:31.000 And so as we started, we set out to go, okay, we want to know who we're buying from.
00:09:36.000 We want to know where the meat's coming from.
00:09:38.000 We want to see how they're being raised.
00:09:40.000 We want to see what they're being fed.
00:09:42.000 We want to touch that.
00:09:44.000 And once we started doing that, that's when our quality went just night and day, made a night and day difference, and that was in 2020.
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00:11:00.000 So we started seeing really good success, like I said, out of the trucks.
00:11:03.000 And then we decided to go fully online in 2020-2022.
00:11:08.000 And that's when we actually started sponsoring your show.
00:11:11.000 You were our first podcast that we ever sponsored.
00:11:15.000 Yeah, we love telling people that too.
00:11:17.000 Yeah, and we just saw huge success online.
00:11:22.000 And this was, again, this was in 2022, so it was after that COVID online boom.
00:11:28.000 But through 22, through 23, and through 24, and even now into 25, which has only been four years, we're seeing just a steady increase.
00:11:40.000 And subscribers and customers because there's a real difference when you source correctly, age correctly, package the way that we do.
00:11:51.000 So yeah, I'm trying to tell the most abbreviated version of the story possible because the second part of this story, which is why we're here, the main reason of why we're here is we want to get to, which is Corley and her health journey.
00:12:10.000 Yeah.
00:12:12.000 So before we get to that, you started selling out of the back of trucks, scaled it, all the Lord.
00:12:17.000 Was there ever a moment where you're like, what am I doing selling me?
00:12:22.000 All the time.
00:12:23.000 How did you make it happen?
00:12:24.000 How did you make it work financially?
00:12:25.000 Because I'm told by people all the time, you can't start businesses anymore.
00:12:28.000 It's impossible.
00:12:30.000 Yeah.
00:12:32.000 I say this pretty regularly now when people ask, and I don't mean it.
00:12:36.000 I don't mean it.
00:12:38.000 I mean, it was zero trite.
00:12:41.000 I think it was ignorance.
00:12:45.000 I think ignorance had a lot to do with it, meaning we didn't know what we didn't know.
00:12:50.000 And I was foolish enough or faithful enough to hear God and go and trust that...
00:13:03.000 That we'll figure it out along the way.
00:13:06.000 Last year, there's a verse in Proverbs that really stood out to me, and it's, Commit your work to the Lord, and He will establish your plan or your path.
00:13:21.000 Looking back, it's easy to connect the dots, right?
00:13:26.000 Or hindsight's 20-20.
00:13:27.000 But what I realized is, We committed our work to the Lord, and He established the path.
00:13:35.000 And we didn't really try to put together this massive plan.
00:13:39.000 We just knew that God said, go do it.
00:13:41.000 And so we started doing it.
00:13:42.000 And it's just one step after the other, just doing the right thing, trusting that God's going before us.
00:13:51.000 And I know that sounds kind of easy, but...
00:13:57.000 It was never easy, but it was also never really hard.
00:14:01.000 God was faithful.
00:14:03.000 The right doors opened.
00:14:04.000 The wrong doors closed.
00:14:07.000 Even as being able to sponsor your podcast, which your podcast has been tremendous for us, but I don't know if you remember this or not, because we had done a little bit with it before we were online when we were still selling out of the trucks or with your show or something.
00:14:26.000 And then we stopped.
00:14:27.000 And then once we got back online, you actually approached us, or your team approached us, because we weren't really thinking about it, but another meat company reached out to you, wanted to advertise, and you said,
00:14:43.000 hey, will you call those Good Rancher guys, because I've done some ads for them before, and I'd rather just keep with one person.
00:14:50.000 And we were like...
00:14:52.000 Oh, yeah, let's do that.
00:14:53.000 And so I can kind of testify even to that was God kind of working things out because we didn't come back to you and say, hey, Charlie, you actually came back to us.
00:15:05.000 And that was extremely successful for us once we started online because the marketing for online was completely different than how we had to market.
00:15:16.000 The other way.
00:15:17.000 And so then we started putting together the dots from you to Allie Beth Stuckey to some folks at the Daily Wire and then Glenn Beck and just kind of other things.
00:15:28.000 We really didn't have this elaborate plan.
00:15:31.000 It just kind of pieced together little by little.
00:15:36.000 So then tell us about the health episode.
00:15:39.000 Oh gosh.
00:15:41.000 There's been multiple.
00:15:43.000 So we have four children, four young children.
00:15:45.000 They're all seven and under.
00:15:47.000 And in 21, when I was pregnant with our fourth baby, I was six weeks pregnant, went to a random dermatologist appointment because I felt like he had a spot that needed to be looked at.
00:15:58.000 Well, lo and behold, it was actually me.
00:16:00.000 And so they biopsied it, and sure enough, the results came back, and it was melanoma.
00:16:06.000 Which is, I didn't know anything about skin cancer, but now I do.
00:16:09.000 And melanoma, skin cancer is very treatable and preventable if you catch it early.
00:16:16.000 But melanoma accounts for 75% of skin cancer deaths.
00:16:20.000 So it's serious.
00:16:21.000 And the fact that I was pregnant was very scary as well.
00:16:24.000 And so I was obviously shattered and broken and so sad.
00:16:32.000 I'm so thankful that Ben was there with me because he was really that pillar of truth and faith that I needed to push through.
00:16:41.000 And so we prayed about it.
00:16:42.000 We prayed about, God, what strategy would you have us do to receive healing?
00:16:48.000 And that was to have surgery in my second trimester.
00:16:51.000 And so we did that.
00:16:52.000 And they didn't find anything else except they did an Olymp node, which put me at stage three.
00:16:58.000 But it was so small that they felt comfortable with me continuing on with the pregnancy, having her, and then going from there.
00:17:07.000 But before that, they were having some really, really scary conversations with us, sending us down, asking Ben if he was prepared to be a single dad of three other babies if I were to die with the baby.
00:17:23.000 They're just kind of pressuring me to not continue with the pregnancy, which was...
00:17:28.000 Pressuring you to have an abortion?
00:17:29.000 Yes.
00:17:29.000 Yep.
00:17:31.000 And I told them, I was like, well, that's not going to happen.
00:17:33.000 Like, I'm having this baby.
00:17:36.000 And I remember going into one appointment and my oncologist made a remark to her colleague and said, okay, and the baby's important to her.
00:17:44.000 But it's just crazy how in that environment they just, you know, treat you that way and just discount life.
00:17:51.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:17:53.000 Keep going.
00:17:54.000 Anyway, so...
00:17:55.000 Doctors actually don't care about human beings.
00:17:57.000 I know.
00:17:57.000 No, they don't.
00:17:58.000 You think about it.
00:17:58.000 I know.
00:17:59.000 I know.
00:18:00.000 Even being at MD Anderson was really hard.
00:18:02.000 It's all just about money.
00:18:04.000 It is.
00:18:05.000 It is.
00:18:06.000 Eliminate as many humans as possible.
00:18:07.000 Yeah.
00:18:08.000 And everyone...
00:18:10.000 Everyone there has one foot in the grave.
00:18:12.000 It's just a very, very sad place to be at.
00:18:15.000 But our prayer was that the baby would be healthy, I would be healthy, and I'd be healed.
00:18:20.000 Healthy she was.
00:18:20.000 Yeah, she's a giant baby.
00:18:22.000 She's very, very large.
00:18:23.000 She's three now.
00:18:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:18:25.000 Anyway, so it was fine, and then I had scans after that, and they were clear.
00:18:28.000 And then last year in January, I felt another swollen lymph node next to the one that they had removed.
00:18:34.000 And I just knew in my spirit, I was like, oh.
00:18:36.000 This chapter wasn't closed.
00:18:38.000 I got to walk this out more.
00:18:40.000 And sure enough, did a biopsy.
00:18:42.000 You know, which we went into last year, 2024, was the first year that since starting the business that we didn't either have a newborn or you'd be pregnant.
00:18:55.000 Yes.
00:18:55.000 I think you mentioned earlier, last time I saw you, you were with child.
00:18:58.000 I'm like, both times you saw me.
00:19:00.000 Yeah, every time.
00:19:01.000 And so we were so excited going into, again.
00:19:05.000 Starting a business is not easy.
00:19:07.000 Running a business is not easy.
00:19:08.000 And we've never taken on any funding.
00:19:10.000 We've completely, I mean, and we didn't have any money.
00:19:14.000 Again, we just little by little and just chipped away.
00:19:21.000 And so we've definitely had some really hard times, especially once we went online because the business model just shifted 180 degrees.
00:19:30.000 And so 2022 wasn't...
00:19:54.000 We're done having kids.
00:19:56.000 We're ready to focus on the business.
00:19:58.000 The cancer's behind you.
00:20:01.000 In January of 2024, we got that diagnosis.
00:20:05.000 Yeah, and it's crazy because even going into 24, I don't ever have a word for the year or anything, but I did feel in my prayer time that I wanted to focus on my health.
00:20:14.000 God was asking me to focus on my health.
00:20:17.000 You know, he's like, here you go.
00:20:18.000 You really got to focus on it.
00:20:21.000 Anyway, so we just prayed about strategy for this time.
00:20:23.000 I was like, I'm thankful I'm not pregnant this time.
00:20:26.000 I'm thankful that it's just me finding it.
00:20:28.000 My babies are healthy.
00:20:29.000 I'm going to be fine.
00:20:30.000 And so I was full of faith.
00:20:32.000 I told myself if God brought me through this being pregnant, he's going to do it again.
00:20:38.000 With all the talk about tariffs, high prices, and the stock market, most people are feeling the financial pinch.
00:20:59.000 They're one of the rare banks in America that hasn't changed their name or their values in nearly four decades.
00:21:07.000 They really are the experts.
00:21:09.000 They've helped me and they make it so easy.
00:21:34.000 We just prayed about strategy, what that looked like, and we decided on an integrative approach, so I did a A lot of holistic therapies.
00:21:42.000 I went to a clinic in California to kind of build up my immune system in various ways before I did immunotherapy at MD Anderson and then surgery after that.
00:21:54.000 But then I got super sick.
00:21:55.000 I was feeling great.
00:21:56.000 I lost 30 pounds, you know, just having four babies in a row and did a strict keto diet and then felt the strongest I ever felt.
00:22:07.000 Once I started immunotherapy, I just became so sick.
00:22:11.000 Just bedridden, night sweats, just soaking the entire bed, fevers, high fevers for multiple weeks.
00:22:18.000 It was horrible.
00:22:20.000 I've never felt like that before.
00:22:22.000 It was two rounds of immunotherapy they wanted you to go through.
00:22:30.000 It's 30 days apart.
00:22:32.000 The first 30-day check-in to go do the second round.
00:22:36.000 You were so sick.
00:22:37.000 And your doctor said, listen, this is what it does.
00:22:44.000 It's strengthening your immune system.
00:22:46.000 You've got to push through.
00:22:47.000 I know you're hurting.
00:22:49.000 I know you're sick.
00:22:50.000 But you need to push through.
00:22:52.000 Take this second round.
00:22:53.000 And so we're getting this thing.
00:22:58.000 So we did.
00:23:00.000 Yeah, because immunotherapy is interesting.
00:23:02.000 It's like monoclonal antibodies.
00:23:02.000 Yes, it teaches your immune system to wake up and to start fighting whatever's going on.
00:23:07.000 And so I felt very comfortable with that.
00:23:10.000 It's not like chemo where chemo is just kind of killing everything.
00:23:14.000 So we did the second round.
00:23:16.000 She did it and then only began to get more sick and more sick and more sick.
00:23:23.000 At the end of that 30-day stint, and then, I mean, Corley was completely bedridden.
00:23:28.000 And, you know, when you've got four little babies at home that are crying and wanting their mom.
00:23:33.000 And you're running a business.
00:23:34.000 And you're trying to, yeah.
00:23:37.000 It was, yeah, it was, it goes without saying, it was the hardest time of our life.
00:23:43.000 But the hardest thing is, you know, especially Daisy being just, at that time, just a, you know, still just a baby.
00:23:51.000 Just crying for mommy and just crying for mommy.
00:23:53.000 She normally puts them to bed every single night.
00:23:57.000 And then to go for months, which to children might as well be years.
00:24:03.000 She couldn't walk up the stairs.
00:24:05.000 She was literally bedridden.
00:24:10.000 That was so challenging.
00:24:13.000 We go back to the hospital after the second stint and she's in a wheelchair at this point.
00:24:23.000 Yeah, and I mean, what started out, the lymph node was probably the size of a marble in the beginning.
00:24:28.000 I mean, it now grew to like the size of a grapefruit in my groin.
00:24:31.000 I mean, it was huge.
00:24:32.000 It was red, and it just looked really bad.
00:24:35.000 I felt like I was dying.
00:24:37.000 I looked like I was dying.
00:24:39.000 And so I didn't know what to expect at this appointment, but we had to do a rescan before surgery.
00:24:46.000 And so he's wheeling me in.
00:24:48.000 I mean, I can't even stand up for a chest x-ray.
00:24:50.000 It was so bad.
00:24:51.000 And so we get all the scans done.
00:24:55.000 And then the oncologist comes in and she says, well, your cancer laughed at the immunotherapy.
00:25:00.000 It spread all over.
00:25:02.000 This is not good.
00:25:04.000 We can...
00:25:07.000 Do some chemo on you to hopefully shrink it before surgery, but it's not curative.
00:25:11.000 So there's no guarantees, but that's kind of the only option that we have right now.
00:25:15.000 She said, you know, we do these treatments and we hope for a positive outcome.
00:25:23.000 This is absolutely the worst outcome we could have had because there was no response.
00:25:31.000 The cancer didn't respond at all to the immunotherapy.
00:25:38.000 Yeah, and the doctor, the MD Anderson doctor, knew that Coralie did.
00:25:44.000 She was very against her doing the holistic approach first.
00:25:50.000 Makes sense.
00:25:51.000 And keeping the baby before that.
00:25:56.000 So it was kind of a little bit of like a salt in the wound of your cancer laughed at your treatment, right?
00:26:03.000 Even though that...
00:26:06.000 A huge part of the treatment was with them as well.
00:26:09.000 It was just kind of a salt-in-the-wound kind of comment.
00:26:14.000 So she prescribed this chemo pill.
00:26:16.000 Again, like Coralie said, that's not curative, but they do see good results temporarily.
00:26:25.000 Fun fact, on the box, the number one side effect is causes more cancer.
00:26:32.000 Right.
00:26:32.000 And she said, but we've got to do something to try to shrink it because it's so swollen.
00:26:38.000 It's so inflamed.
00:26:39.000 It's so big now.
00:26:40.000 Surgery would be hard.
00:26:44.000 So they wanted to do something to just try to shrink it.
00:26:47.000 So we leave the hospital just completely devastated.
00:26:55.000 I was trying to be strong for you, but I was devastated.
00:26:58.000 You don't even know this, but I got on the phone.
00:27:01.000 I don't even know who it was, but I just cried.
00:27:04.000 I think it was my mom.
00:27:05.000 I think it was your mom, yeah.
00:27:07.000 Because it's scary.
00:27:11.000 We believed we were going to get through this.
00:27:14.000 We knew we were going to get through it.
00:27:15.000 But when the report is just nothing but death, when the report is just so bad, we're driving home.
00:27:25.000 From M.D. Anderson, and Corley looks at me and says, what was it like when God talked to you?
00:27:32.000 And I'm like, that is so out of left field.
00:27:37.000 And I said, what do you mean?
00:27:39.000 She said, you always tell the story of when God said to start Good Ranchers, said he spoke to you and said to start a meat company, what was that like?
00:27:48.000 And I said, why are you asking this?
00:27:50.000 Like, what?
00:27:51.000 Like, why?
00:27:52.000 And she said, and she starts crying, and she said, because a few weeks ago, I really felt like God told me that my cancer was dead.
00:28:01.000 And to hear that report today, that it laughed at the therapy, and she's like, I just know that God told me that my cancer is dead.
00:28:09.000 And yeah, we got home, and we talked about it, and we said, you know what?
00:28:17.000 If God said it's dead, Then it's dead, and we're going to hold on to that, and we're going to believe that.
00:28:22.000 And then she looks at me, and she says, I don't want to take the chemo.
00:28:27.000 And I'm like, I think you should take the chemo.
00:28:30.000 I think you should do the chemo.
00:28:32.000 And she said, no, I don't want to do it.
00:28:36.000 And she's like, I'm tired of being sick.
00:28:39.000 I don't want to do it.
00:28:41.000 And I said, okay.
00:28:43.000 Okay, then we're going to pray, and we're going to believe that.
00:28:46.000 God said it was dead.
00:28:48.000 We're going to stand on that.
00:28:49.000 And she never took the chemo pills.
00:28:53.000 And in a matter of days, the whole area started shrinking.
00:28:58.000 And again, it was all inflamed.
00:29:01.000 It was hugely swollen.
00:29:03.000 It started shrinking.
00:29:05.000 She started feeling better.
00:29:06.000 And about a week later, she was feeling good.
00:29:12.000 She was walking.
00:29:15.000 And she called her doctor and said, "Hey, I want a rescan before surgery."
00:29:19.000 And they said, "No, you don't need a rescan.
00:29:21.000 We've got everything we need."
00:29:22.000 She said, "No, I'm telling you, I want a rescan before surgery."
00:29:26.000 And so we went back in about two weeks later at that point.
00:29:31.000 We went in for a rescan and they said, "Great news.
00:29:36.000 The chemo is working.
00:29:38.000 Don't get excited because this is what it does."
00:29:41.000 We know it can temporary cause shrinkage, but it's not curative.
00:29:45.000 But this is good news for surgery because this will help us get in there and do the surgery.
00:29:50.000 And so we just looked at each other.
00:29:53.000 We knew better than to tell them anything, so we just looked at each other and we knew.
00:29:58.000 And then two weeks later, she went in for surgery.
00:30:03.000 And after the biopsy of surgery, Coralie loves to tell the story that she didn't need him to call because she already knew.
00:30:13.000 And she was so full of faith.
00:30:15.000 But they called and they said, hey, every bit of cancer that we removed was completely dead.
00:30:23.000 Which means something worked.
00:30:28.000 And the first report of your cancer laughed at your treatment, laughed at the therapy.
00:30:34.000 Something worked.
00:30:37.000 And even the other lymph nodes that they removed, that they thought that they were seeing cancer and never had cancer in them at all.
00:30:43.000 So it's just, I mean, obviously God is wonderful and miraculous things happen, but there's also part of the story where you have to advocate for yourself.
00:30:53.000 Yeah, what did the doctors say when you told them this stuff?
00:30:56.000 Yeah, so we went for the follow-up after surgery, and they're going over the results.
00:31:02.000 My oncologist thinks I'm crazy at this point.
00:31:04.000 And she's just kind of smug about it.
00:31:06.000 Like, yeah, it's good, but it's not the best because it was just from the chemo.
00:31:09.000 So you'll have to keep taking these pills for the next year.
00:31:12.000 And I looked at her and I said, well, I didn't take the pills.
00:31:15.000 And her jaw just dropped behind her mask.
00:31:18.000 And she's like, what do you mean you didn't take the pills?
00:31:21.000 And I said, God told me that the cancer was dead and I didn't need to take them.
00:31:26.000 And she's just like, okay.
00:31:28.000 Then she asked, she said, well, did he say anything about radiation?
00:31:32.000 I'm like, who, God?
00:31:33.000 And she said, no, you're a surgeon.
00:31:36.000 No, but how do doctors respond to supernatural phenomenon?
00:31:40.000 I know, right?
00:31:41.000 And they just smugly roll it off, I guess.
00:31:44.000 Obviously, it's God.
00:31:45.000 I mean, there's a spiritual domain that's acting on our physical world every day.
00:31:49.000 It is something that's always, you know, just bothered me.
00:31:53.000 So they say you didn't take the pills.
00:31:55.000 How does she write that in her chart?
00:31:59.000 You could tell she was upset that I didn't listen to her.
00:32:02.000 Oh, she's upset that you're alive.
00:32:03.000 Yeah, I just kind of had to help her in that moment.
00:32:05.000 So I said, hey, the first plan worked.
00:32:08.000 Like, your first plan worked.
00:32:09.000 Kind of had to, like, get her pepped up almost.
00:32:13.000 And, yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm there at this point to witness to her and the rest of the team because they're so lost.
00:32:20.000 And I can only imagine, like, the grief that comes with having that position.
00:32:25.000 But, yeah.
00:32:26.000 That was a total miraculous healing.
00:32:28.000 It should be grief.
00:32:28.000 It should be joy, right?
00:32:30.000 Yes, it should be.
00:32:32.000 So you're cancer-free.
00:32:34.000 Yeah.
00:32:35.000 Wow, praise the Lord.
00:32:36.000 When was all of this?
00:32:37.000 This was last summer.
00:32:39.000 June of last summer.
00:32:40.000 And you feel great?
00:32:42.000 I feel great.
00:32:44.000 Surgery was in June.
00:32:47.000 You've had three scans since.
00:32:51.000 How did you run the business during all of this?
00:32:54.000 Man, it was tough.
00:33:00.000 I have a great team around us, though.
00:33:02.000 We have a really great team that really stepped up.
00:33:09.000 Hebrews 12, verse 1, has really been on my heart lately.
00:33:17.000 We see with such a great cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight and the sin that so easily...
00:33:27.000 And that just jumped out to me this past week of there's weight and there's sin.
00:33:34.000 And so often we just think, you know, we know that the wages of sin is death, but there's things that just weigh us down.
00:33:41.000 And especially as men, you know, we're professionals of carrying weight.
00:33:47.000 And the truth is...
00:33:52.000 We're supposed to give those weights to God.
00:33:54.000 We're supposed to give our cares to Him.
00:33:58.000 We're supposed to cast them on Him, right?
00:34:01.000 And again, it sounds easy, but that's what it was.
00:34:09.000 It was giving those cares, giving that weight to the Lord because I'm not strong enough to carry it on my own.
00:34:18.000 Again, we have a great team that came around us and helped us through.
00:34:23.000 But yeah, for the joy set before Him, He endured the cross.
00:34:29.000 And if our hope was in this life only, we'd be miserable.
00:34:33.000 But we know that there's a hope beyond this life that's beautiful.
00:34:37.000 And it sucks to see your wife going through this.
00:34:43.000 You never want to see your wife or your kids go through anything.
00:34:50.000 Again, our hope isn't in this life only.
00:34:52.000 Our hope is in Jesus, and our hope is in heaven.
00:34:56.000 So, you know, we're here to run a race, and that's all we can do.
00:35:04.000 So, the answer to your question was just...
00:35:07.000 And I was inspired by Corley's faith, so the answer to your question is faith, and faith in Jesus.
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00:36:02.000 Corley was so inspirational.
00:36:05.000 Because she never lost her faith.
00:36:07.000 She never lost as much pain as she was in, as much as she was hurting.
00:36:16.000 She never lost that faith.
00:36:18.000 Had a word.
00:36:20.000 Yeah, it was miraculous to watch.
00:36:23.000 Did your kids know what was going on?
00:36:25.000 No.
00:36:26.000 They just knew Mommy was sick.
00:36:27.000 Yeah, they knew Mommy was sick and that she'd be healed.
00:36:30.000 So we were praying and believing for that.
00:36:32.000 So we'll tell them one day.
00:36:34.000 And so the business is doing well now.
00:36:38.000 Yeah.
00:36:38.000 Tell us about it.
00:36:40.000 Yeah.
00:36:40.000 And tell us about how you're—we only have a couple minutes, but tell us how you're navigating all of the news with tariffs.
00:36:46.000 You guys don't—you're not impacted by tariffs, though, right?
00:36:48.000 Yeah.
00:36:49.000 So you say more tariffs, the better, right?
00:36:50.000 I mean, you know, knock on wood, because you know this, but we need import-export.
00:36:57.000 It's an interconnected supply chain.
00:36:59.000 For the economy.
00:37:00.000 But you're not importing New Zealand beef.
00:37:02.000 Right.
00:37:02.000 Yeah.
00:37:03.000 I mean, we're 100 percent— American manufactured, even when you open our box and you see the insulation that says Made in USA.
00:37:10.000 We don't ever want to be beholden to a cargo ship waiting on anything, whether it's a box or, for sure, not meat, but even packaging.
00:37:23.000 We have 100% domestic U.S. supply chain, and so that has been good for us.
00:37:33.000 Yeah, the business is doing really well.
00:37:35.000 We're continuing to grow.
00:37:36.000 And again, praise God.
00:37:38.000 It's awesome to be able to...
00:37:41.000 Things I didn't think about before starting a business was the responsibility of being a business owner.
00:37:47.000 But the impact and the jobs that you get to create.
00:37:49.000 And then you get to choose.
00:37:52.000 I say you choose, but in our case, you get to choose what kind of benefits you're going to give your employees and what kind of atmosphere you're going to have at...
00:38:02.000 At the office or what kind of environment you're going to create and being able to create an environment where people want to come to work and be able to create an environment that...
00:38:10.000 You can support families.
00:38:13.000 You can support moms that are working and dads.
00:38:16.000 Yeah, we have probably the most...
00:38:19.000 We don't really ever talk about it, but we have amazing health.
00:38:23.000 We pay 75% for all of our employees rather than just 50%.
00:38:28.000 We give six months maternity leave to moms.
00:38:32.000 We give three months to the dad because we believe in family and we believe in...
00:38:40.000 You know, it's hard enough having a kid, having a baby, like, you know, and especially your first one is just like, here's this human, go figure it out.
00:38:48.000 There's no manual.
00:38:49.000 There is no manual, right?
00:38:51.000 We joke around, if I wrote the book with Erica, the manual, it would sell, like, millions of copies.
00:38:56.000 Yeah, you should do that.
00:38:57.000 The instruction manual, right?
00:38:58.000 Yeah, you should do it.
00:38:58.000 Or do it like Michael Knowles did.
00:39:01.000 Why to vote for Democrats?
00:39:03.000 Just blank pages.
00:39:05.000 That's funny.
00:39:05.000 So in closing, guys, people can check it out.
00:39:08.000 Obviously, goodranchers.com, promo code Charlie.
00:39:11.000 But you guys are growing like gangbusters.
00:39:13.000 Yeah.
00:39:13.000 And this is really a calling for you.
00:39:14.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:17.000 Yeah, we love what we get to do.
00:39:19.000 We love get to, you know, I was at a chicken farm on Thursday of last week.
00:39:24.000 And, you know, the look on, as we continue to grow, we get to...
00:39:30.000 Partner with more and more farmers and ranchers and different people.
00:39:36.000 And the look on their faces, especially some of these smaller operations, we can make a massive impact because we can double, triple work.
00:39:50.000 So talk about that.
00:39:51.000 So you find a local chicken farm in Arkansas, and because of your national network, you could plug into that, and they can scale in a way that...
00:39:59.000 They couldn't be able to do that previously, right?
00:40:02.000 Correct, yeah.
00:40:03.000 And in our case, Texas raises really good chickens.
00:40:08.000 Chickens are one of the most volatile animals.
00:40:11.000 People don't really think about it.
00:40:13.000 Yeah, they're just so volatile.
00:40:15.000 I eat chicken every day.
00:40:16.000 Yeah, they're so fragile, and they have to be cared for, which is where the whole cage is.
00:40:39.000 I mean, chickens are fragile.
00:40:43.000 So when they say cage-free, what do they mean?
00:40:46.000 Well, when we say cage-free, that's what we mean.
00:40:49.000 But there are loopholes in that.
00:40:52.000 How big is the cage-free?
00:40:53.000 Well, they say access to the outside.
00:40:56.000 It doesn't mean they ever have to go outside.
00:40:58.000 And so that's the way the USDA law is written.
00:41:02.000 It says as long as they have access to the outside, they can be free-range or cage-free.
00:41:08.000 But to be able to go to these farms, be able to go to these ranches, and be able to look at the rancher, look at the farmer, and say, How many more chicken could you grow if you knew you had an outlet for them?
00:41:22.000 And they give you a number and you go, okay, we'll take that.
00:41:26.000 It means it's a massive impact because the way the supply chain works, it's really not set up for the little guy.
00:41:35.000 And again, we're not perfect, but we're trying to continue to get better because we believe that We need farmers.
00:41:47.000 We need ranchers.
00:41:48.000 We need to support our own.
00:41:50.000 We need to support American agriculture.
00:41:53.000 If we lose control of our food, we're going to lose control of the country.
00:41:59.000 Coralie, final thoughts after all you've been through?
00:42:02.000 Just hold on to your faith and hold on to the end.
00:42:07.000 If someone's going through a diagnosis like that, until I take my last breath, I'm going to believe that.
00:42:13.000 What he accomplished on the cross is for me right now in this world.
00:42:17.000 And so hold on to your faith.
00:42:21.000 Love it.
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00:42:22.000 Thank you guys so much.
00:42:23.000 God bless.
00:42:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:42:27.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:42:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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